Re: [EVDL] AM radio and EV's

2019-08-24 Thread Mr. Sharkey via EV

>> AM radio would be nearly useless without those 50,000 watt broadcast
stations.

Actually, there are a limited number of those clear channel 50KW 
stations, and for obvious reasons, a limited number of clear channels 
for them to broadcast on.


Most AM stations have much more modest power levels, and Class 4 
local stations have to lower power after sunset to near-microscopic 
levels to minimize interference to other stations on co- and adjacent channels.


In 2009, the AM station for which I provide engineering moved 
transmitter sites, constructing a new building and antenna array. By 
the time it was over, the owner had $130k into it (including the 
land). We lost 10% of our daytime power in the relicensing (1KW down 
to 900W) and nightime power went from 60W to 39W. The station covers 
the local market well during the day, but after dark, it's basically 
useless unless you live a few blocks from the transmitter site.


The only thing that made the move and expense worthwhile was 
purchasing and applying for a license to rebroadcast the AM program 
material on an FM translator (250W ERP output maximum). The FM 
translator more than covers the community, and it doesn't have to be 
turned down at night.


As great as the FM translator sounds (full-fidelity, stereo!), we 
still have listeners who refuse to listen to it, and who complain 
bitterly if the AM isn't sounding up to par (it's a format of vintage 
tunes that appeals to retirees).


The buzz in the broadcast industry is that the AM band is on life 
support, and will eventually be taken away and auctioned off as 
available spectrum for other purposes. Licensees of AM stations are 
digging in, assuming that there will be some lucrative compensation 
for the loss of their AM licenses, either a buy-out, or a license in 
some other (perhaps not-yet created) broadcast service.


The carmakers solution to QRM (interference) has been to offer only 
FM radios and satellite (XM Radio) in their EV's. Why try to mitigate 
noise when "Nobody listens to AM any more?"


Of course, all broadcast is gravitating to forms of digital delivery, 
but my experience is that while analog (AM, FM, and TV) is at least 
listenable/viewable when there is weak signal or moderate 
interference, digital stations are the classic digital 1 or 0, it's 
either there, or it's not, nothing in between. Get out on the fringes 
of reception, and it all goes away, not even a sputter to give you a 
ray of hope.


Apparently FEMA still has faith in AM powerhouse stations, they've 
hardened and outfitted a bunch of those 50KW'ers with EMP-proof 
shelters with complete backup transmission systems and generators 
with 5,000 gallon diesel tanks.


Maybe AM will survive the electrification of the transportation system as well.

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Re: [EVDL] AM radio and EV's

2019-08-24 Thread Lee Hart via EV

Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:

Was just reading a DC Power supply article and it casually mentioned the
benefit of moving to higher frequency for DC/DC convresion in not only
efficiency, but also, by being above 2 MHz, there are no harmonics in he AM
band.

Nice to know they are thinking about it.


Good to know they are thinking about it. But even if the frequency is 
above 2 MHz, you still get noise in the AM band. The frequency is 
usually modulated to regulate the supply; and that will create 
subharmonics in the AM band.


Besides that, modern cars are already incredible noise sources. Tune an 
AM radio between stations, and just listen to all the pops and buzzes as 
you turn things on and off.


AM radio would be nearly useless without those 50,000 watt broadcast 
stations.


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[EVDL] AM radio and EV's

2019-08-24 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Was just reading a DC Power supply article and it casually mentioned the
benefit of moving to higher frequency for DC/DC convresion in not only
efficiency, but also, by being above 2 MHz, there are no harmonics in he AM
band.

Nice to know they are thinking about it.

Bob
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Re: [EVDL] Driving A Tesla Results In More CO2 Than A Mercedes Diesel Car, Study Finds

2019-08-24 Thread Chris Tromley via EV
All you need to know is the source of the article.  The Daily Caller is
among the bottom of the barrel in right-wing screamer sites.  Think if them
as Breitbart, but without Breitbart's polish and journalistic integrity.

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On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 3:36 PM David Delman via EV 
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> Have we discussed this article yet?
>
> https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/24/tesla-carbon-dioxide-mercedes/
>
> Thank you,
>
> David Delman
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