Re: [EVDL] 5 k pot wiring? controller wiring? mis match

2015-06-01 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Ken, do you have a multimeter?
No, buy one for a few bucks,
put it on resistance measurement and probe the 3 wires,
If this is indeed a 5k pot then there will likely be 2 pairs of wires
that read about 5k (for example blue-black and green-black) and between the two 
pairs 
(blue to green) it will likely read a low resistance.
Now depress the throttle and read again.
There will be one pair that is still 5k (for example blue-black) and one pair 
that
has dropped in resistance (for example 1k from green-black) while the 
resistance between
the pairs has increased (for example 4k between blue-green)
The pair that is always 5k are the ends of the pot and represent the black 
and red
from the controller. The wire that has changed resistance to both others is the 
wiper
(white on the controller).
Just connect it and if the throttle does not ramp the controller up but starts 
at max and 
ramps down, then you must swap the ends (black and red).
Success!

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From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of ken via EV
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 6:50 PM
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Subject: [EVDL] 5 k pot wiring? controller wiring? mis match

 I have a very simple controller i'm using on my scooter.

 throttle cable it shows
Blue, green, black
_

Controller manaual says

Red   WhiteBlack
5V   1-4.5V0V

SO WHICH GOES TO WHICH?

Is the white the wiper?


I thinks its 5 k pot? does the a hall affect show resitance across its leads.


I'll have  the back wheel off the ground for testing.



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[EVDL] 5 k pot wiring? controller wiring? mis match

2015-06-01 Thread ken via EV
 I have a very simple controller i'm using on my scooter.

 throttle cable it shows
Blue, green, black
_

Controller manaual says

Red   WhiteBlack
5V   1-4.5V0V

SO WHICH GOES TO WHICH?

Is the white the wiper?


I thinks its 5 k pot? does the a hall affect show resitance across its leads.


I'll have  the back wheel off the ground for testing.



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Re: [EVDL] 5 k pot wiring? controller wiring? mis match

2015-06-01 Thread Michael Ross via EV
You are making us guess with less than you have.  Can you tell what scooter
and controller - maybe a link online?

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:49 PM, ken via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:

  I have a very simple controller i'm using on my scooter.

  throttle cable it shows
 Blue, green, black
 _

 Controller manaual says

 Red   WhiteBlack
 5V   1-4.5V0V

​There is a convention in the US that Red is the supply, Black is the
reference or common voltage, and white is a signal wire.​

You don't tell us it is an input to the controller but that is a decent
guess.  If correct, then the controller is expecting a signal between 1 and
4.5V.


 SO WHICH GOES TO WHICH?

There is nothing definitive about any of this:
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_5/chpt_2/2.html

I would guess the green is less likely to be supply or ground, and black
and blue more likely.  But who knows?



 Is the white the wiper?

​The controller is looking for ​
​voltage, not resistance, according to what you shared; but maybe you can
work it out with a 5V supply what resistances would produce 1 to 4.5V and
see if that makes sense with what you can read from the throttle.​



 I thinks its 5 k pot?


​Why do you think that?  What is it exactly?
​


 does the a hall affect show resistance across its leads.


​A hall effect element produces a variable voltage based on the magnetic
flux density passing perpendicularly through it.​


​A Hall Effect IC might do any number of things, and any voltage or
resistance you read dependent on the internal circuitry - a mystery most
likely.​  A Hall IC would require power and ground, and the signal would be
a voltage output - not resistance.  I Hall effect sensor could also be set
up to produce a 4 to 20mA current.  Or any number of other things.
 Non-specific pronouns and nouns are so unhelpful.

You have presented the throttle as being either a pot or not a pot.  If it
is a pot, then it will be very obvious.  If it is not obvious, it is broken
or some other device.



 I'll have  the back wheel off the ground for testing.



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