Re: [EVDL] Japanese leaf charging cable

2016-05-03 Thread Tom Parker via EV

On 05/03/2016 08:28 AM, George Tyler via EV wrote:

Hi, here in NZ many people are importing used Nissan Leaf's from Japan.
Japan has different voltage and frequency to the supply here, leaf charging
cable: 200V 60hz, NZ voltage 230V 50Hz. There is a small transformer in the
cable that has to be changed, but opening the cable means that it has to be
re-certified. Does anyone know what the charging cable electronics does?
The cable has an EVSE embedded in it. This basically tells the car how 
much current is available and only turns on the power if a car is 
actually present. In the EVSE supplied with the Gen 1 cars the power 
supply for the circuit inside the EVSE has a mains step down transformer 
not for more than 200v. This transformer will saturate on 240V and get 
very hot. The dealer forgot to do the replacement on our car and it 
failed after about 6 weeks being plugged in continuously. They replaced 
it with one that had been modified. I think you may also have to replace 
some over-voltage protection too.


What is the certification you're worried by? I'm not aware of needing a 
certification to plug something in in New Zealand.


The EVSE supplied with the Gen 2 cars is smaller, I don't know if that 
one needs modification or not.


If you don't want to modify the Nissan EVSE you might look at 
https://bluecars.nz/bc-shop/ in Auckland. Carl has an 8-10-16A 
selectable EVSE with a 16A caravan plug & a caravan to "normal" 10A 3 
pin plug adapter (with 10A circuit breaker and RCD). He also has a fixed 
8A EVSE.

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Re: [EVDL] Japanese leaf charging cable

2016-05-02 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Does anyone know what the charging cable electronics does?

All it does is pull in a relay to connect the MAINS to the pins after
doing a simple voltage, and resistance and ground check and some other
handshaking with the car.

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Subject: [EVDL] Japanese leaf charging cable

Hi, here in NZ many people are importing used Nissan Leaf's from Japan.
Japan has different voltage and frequency to the supply here, leaf
charging
cable: 200V 60hz, NZ voltage 230V 50Hz. There is a small transformer in
the cable that has to be changed, but opening the cable means that it has
to be re-certified. Does anyone know what the charging cable electronics
does?

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Re: [EVDL] Japanese leaf charging cable

2016-05-02 Thread Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield via EV
I would hazard that the small switch-mode power supply inside the EVSE
charging ’brick’ is universal. You may want to ask this guy:
http://evseupgrade.com/?main_page=product_info_id=28

How much will recertification cost?

If you’re going to have to certify either way, a more sensible option would
be to find a UK or European charge cable to use. Brits use 230V +/- 10
percent at 50 hz. Our charge cables with factory LEAFs were set to charge
at 13 amps, 240-volts.

I actually have a portable charging cable in my garage here in the U.S.,
but it’d be of no use to you I suspect even though ti’s at 240 volts as
it’s set to make use of European style Mennekes connectors.

I know Nissan no-longer sells the LEAF in NZ: but a similar cable from a
Mitsubishi garage should work. (The Outlander PHEV uses the same charging
cable as a LEAF).

So in order of ease:

Buy an Outlander PHEV cable.
Buy a cable from Europe, put on a new plug and recertify.

Nikki.


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On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 1:28 PM, George Tyler via EV 
wrote:

> Hi, here in NZ many people are importing used Nissan Leaf's from Japan.
> Japan has different voltage and frequency to the supply here, leaf charging
> cable: 200V 60hz, NZ voltage 230V 50Hz. There is a small transformer in the
> cable that has to be changed, but opening the cable means that it has to be
> re-certified. Does anyone know what the charging cable electronics does?
>
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[EVDL] Japanese leaf charging cable

2016-05-02 Thread George Tyler via EV
Hi, here in NZ many people are importing used Nissan Leaf's from Japan.
Japan has different voltage and frequency to the supply here, leaf charging
cable: 200V 60hz, NZ voltage 230V 50Hz. There is a small transformer in the
cable that has to be changed, but opening the cable means that it has to be
re-certified. Does anyone know what the charging cable electronics does? 

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