Re: [EVDL] Controller page updates
Lee; Sorry to be the one to actually read your schematic and notice the Medium and Slow descriptions don't match the FS switch positions. Open FS to put field shunt in, close to short around it, right? On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Lee Hart via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Many thanks to everyone for checking out the page! I'm delighted to see that HTML4 still seems to work. I was worried that the web had evolved past it (the way my ASCII artwork can no longer be displayed on many people's computers). :-( Lawrence Harris wrote: Getting requirements to meet WCAG 2.0 Level A or AA for our web pages. http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/ This is designed to allow alternate readers, could be voice or brail or just large zoom factor and still make the contents usable. I hadn't thought about how it would be read by the visually impaired. I'll read that page with the guidelines, and try to apply them in the future. Glen Hoag wrote: A good way to check ones HTML coding is to run your pages through the markup validator at http://validator.w3.org Thanks Glen. I didn't realize that there was an automated way to do this (or I wouldn't have bothered everyone). I submitted the controllers.htm page and it came up with 16 errors. Some were mismatched p and /p tags, which I fixed. But most were omission of the ALT= attribute in IMG tags. I used TITLE= instead. ALT only displays the text name when I right-click an image and look at its Properties. TITLE does this, *and* causes the text name for the image to be displayed when I mouse over the image. I guess I have to use both attributes. -- An engineer can do for a nickel what any damn fool can do for a dollar. -- Henry Ford -- Lee Hart's EV projects are at http://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/ group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140718/4021d44f/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Controller page updates
Read out and a Braille TTY.
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Cor van de Water via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
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Sean, with read do you mean when it is computer-read out to them?
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Though not challenged in that particular way, I also appreciate that
most
blind people can read a well constructed HTML page.
sean
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:30 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
I think with all the responses trying your html page from different
browsers
on various OS', I believe you have a good page.
Not that it is needed, I also had good success bringing your page up
on:
Firefox, Opera, SeaMonkey (a Firefox version) when on Windows and when
on
Linux.
I have found web pages using simple, straight-forward html 4.0 code
have a
good common denominator compatibility (the page will work on the
majority
of
situations). It is when a web designer decides to get fancy and apply
their
College course training using flash, shockwave, others, that web
pages
can
have issues in different situations (the page may not be as 'pretty',
wiz-bang, or 'cool', but the information and or message will get
across to
a
majority of viewers).
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Re: [EVDL] Controller page updates
Lee's page worked great and I am a big fan of simple pages constructed with
basic HTML tools.
Probably not quite what is being discussed but this is what we are dealing
with. Getting requirements to meet WCAG 2.0 Level A or AA for our web pages.
http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/ This is designed to allow alternate
readers, could be voice or brail or just large zoom factor and still make the
contents usable.
Lawrence Harris
On Jul 17, 2014, at 6:55 AM, Sean Korb via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Read out and a Braille TTY.
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Cor van de Water via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
Sean, with read do you mean when it is computer-read out to them?
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] Controller page updates
Though not challenged in that particular way, I also appreciate that
most
blind people can read a well constructed HTML page.
sean
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:30 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
I think with all the responses trying your html page from different
browsers
on various OS', I believe you have a good page.
Not that it is needed, I also had good success bringing your page up
on:
Firefox, Opera, SeaMonkey (a Firefox version) when on Windows and when
on
Linux.
I have found web pages using simple, straight-forward html 4.0 code
have a
good common denominator compatibility (the page will work on the
majority
of
situations). It is when a web designer decides to get fancy and apply
their
College course training using flash, shockwave, others, that web
pages
can
have issues in different situations (the page may not be as 'pretty',
wiz-bang, or 'cool', but the information and or message will get
across to
a
majority of viewers).
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Re: [EVDL] Controller page updates
Many thanks to everyone for checking out the page! I'm delighted to see that HTML4 still seems to work. I was worried that the web had evolved past it (the way my ASCII artwork can no longer be displayed on many people's computers). :-( Lawrence Harris wrote: Getting requirements to meet WCAG 2.0 Level A or AA for our web pages. http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/ This is designed to allow alternate readers, could be voice or brail or just large zoom factor and still make the contents usable. I hadn't thought about how it would be read by the visually impaired. I'll read that page with the guidelines, and try to apply them in the future. Glen Hoag wrote: A good way to check ones HTML coding is to run your pages through the markup validator at http://validator.w3.org Thanks Glen. I didn't realize that there was an automated way to do this (or I wouldn't have bothered everyone). I submitted the controllers.htm page and it came up with 16 errors. Some were mismatched p and /p tags, which I fixed. But most were omission of the ALT= attribute in IMG tags. I used TITLE= instead. ALT only displays the text name when I right-click an image and look at its Properties. TITLE does this, *and* causes the text name for the image to be displayed when I mouse over the image. I guess I have to use both attributes. -- An engineer can do for a nickel what any damn fool can do for a dollar. -- Henry Ford -- Lee Hart's EV projects are at http://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Controller page updates
Looks good on a Kindle Fire HDX. I have no idea what the Silk browser version is. Mike On July 15, 2014 8:24:06 PM MDT, Cor van de Water via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Lee, Looks good on Firefox and IE. Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com Email: cwa...@proxim.com Private: http://www.cvandewater.info Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Lee Hart via EV Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 2:31 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: [EVDL] Controller page updates Hi gang, I've been adding content to the Sunrise EV website in an effort to make it more useful. I just added documentation on the Henney Kilowatt rectactor controller (the earliest solid-state controller that I know of). I'm no web designer, so I stick with simple HTML4 for everything to keep it simple and small. I tried something new here, and am wondering if it works on other people's computers. If you have a moment, go to http://www.sunrise-ev.com and about halfway down the page under Recent Updates, click the Motor Controllers link. That should take you to the controllers page. Halfway down that page is the Henney schematic. It has a series of clickable links for off, start, slow, medium, fast, etc. Clicking them should change the schematic to show the current paths in red for each speed. If they work, great! If there's a problem, could you send me an email (off list at leeah...@earthlink.net) so I can figure out what I'm doing wrong and fix it? Thanks! ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Controller page updates
Works fine on my iphone 5s (Safari) - even the animations. Interesting write up nice pictures, too. MW MW On 15 Jul 2014, at 22:31, Lee Hart via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Hi gang, I've been adding content to the Sunrise EV website in an effort to make it more useful. I just added documentation on the Henney Kilowatt rectactor controller (the earliest solid-state controller that I know of). I'm no web designer, so I stick with simple HTML4 for everything to keep it simple and small. I tried something new here, and am wondering if it works on other people's computers. If you have a moment, go to http://www.sunrise-ev.com and about halfway down the page under Recent Updates, click the Motor Controllers link. That should take you to the controllers page. Halfway down that page is the Henney schematic. It has a series of clickable links for off, start, slow, medium, fast, etc. Clicking them should change the schematic to show the current paths in red for each speed. If they work, great! If there's a problem, could you send me an email (off list at leeah...@earthlink.net) so I can figure out what I'm doing wrong and fix it? Thanks! -- An engineer can do for a nickel what any damn fool can do for a dollar. -- Henry Ford -- Lee Hart's EV projects are at http://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Controller page updates
Everything worked fine for me on the latest version of Google Chrome and Windows 7. On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 2:58 AM, Martin Winlow via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Works fine on my iphone 5s (Safari) - even the animations. Interesting write up nice pictures, too. MW MW On 15 Jul 2014, at 22:31, Lee Hart via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Hi gang, I've been adding content to the Sunrise EV website in an effort to make it more useful. I just added documentation on the Henney Kilowatt rectactor controller (the earliest solid-state controller that I know of). I'm no web designer, so I stick with simple HTML4 for everything to keep it simple and small. I tried something new here, and am wondering if it works on other people's computers. If you have a moment, go to http://www.sunrise-ev.com and about halfway down the page under Recent Updates, click the Motor Controllers link. That should take you to the controllers page. Halfway down that page is the Henney schematic. It has a series of clickable links for off, start, slow, medium, fast, etc. Clicking them should change the schematic to show the current paths in red for each speed. If they work, great! If there's a problem, could you send me an email (off list at leeah...@earthlink.net) so I can figure out what I'm doing wrong and fix it? Thanks! -- An engineer can do for a nickel what any damn fool can do for a dollar. -- Henry Ford -- Lee Hart's EV projects are at http://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140716/32e0ba10/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Controller page updates
I think with all the responses trying your html page from different browsers
on various OS', I believe you have a good page.
Not that it is needed, I also had good success bringing your page up on:
Firefox, Opera, SeaMonkey (a Firefox version) when on Windows and when on
Linux.
I have found web pages using simple, straight-forward html 4.0 code have a
good common denominator compatibility (the page will work on the majority of
situations). It is when a web designer decides to get fancy and apply their
College course training using flash, shockwave, others, that web pages can
have issues in different situations (the page may not be as 'pretty',
wiz-bang, or 'cool', but the information and or message will get across to a
majority of viewers).
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Re: [EVDL] Controller page updates
Though not challenged in that particular way, I also appreciate that most
blind people can read a well constructed HTML page.
sean
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:30 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
I think with all the responses trying your html page from different
browsers
on various OS', I believe you have a good page.
Not that it is needed, I also had good success bringing your page up on:
Firefox, Opera, SeaMonkey (a Firefox version) when on Windows and when on
Linux.
I have found web pages using simple, straight-forward html 4.0 code have a
good common denominator compatibility (the page will work on the majority
of
situations). It is when a web designer decides to get fancy and apply their
College course training using flash, shockwave, others, that web pages
can
have issues in different situations (the page may not be as 'pretty',
wiz-bang, or 'cool', but the information and or message will get across to
a
majority of viewers).
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Re: [EVDL] Controller page updates
Sean, with read do you mean when it is computer-read out to them?
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Though not challenged in that particular way, I also appreciate that
most
blind people can read a well constructed HTML page.
sean
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:30 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
I think with all the responses trying your html page from different
browsers
on various OS', I believe you have a good page.
Not that it is needed, I also had good success bringing your page up
on:
Firefox, Opera, SeaMonkey (a Firefox version) when on Windows and when
on
Linux.
I have found web pages using simple, straight-forward html 4.0 code
have a
good common denominator compatibility (the page will work on the
majority
of
situations). It is when a web designer decides to get fancy and apply
their
College course training using flash, shockwave, others, that web
pages
can
have issues in different situations (the page may not be as 'pretty',
wiz-bang, or 'cool', but the information and or message will get
across to
a
majority of viewers).
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Re: [EVDL] Controller page updates
Looks good in Seamonkey 2.15.2 (2013) - and without javascript. Also works fine, if a little less elegantly, in Midori 0.2.2 (2009) and QtWeb 3.7.3 (2011). Dillo 2.2 (2010) didn't show the iframe, but it did display the alternate text with its link to the non-fancy page. Opera Mini (Android) 7.5.33361 (2013) was the only browser I tried that flunked outright. It didn't display either the image or the alternative text. However, your click here for the complete schematic under everything else worked. I'm a big proponent of simple hand-coded static markup. Most web designers test on their own machines and have no clue how slowly their pages render in the real not-really-all-that-broad-band world out here. In my book, fast, lean, and informative beats slow, bloated, and glitzy any day. Here in the US, the net bandwidth situation may well get worse, not better, in the near future. That will make clean page coding even more critical. You've also come up with an effective way to show how the rectactor circuit works. If we want people to get useful EV information, IMO this is the way to get it to them. Well done! David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to evpost and etpost addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Controller page updates
Lee, Looks good on Firefox and IE. Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless Corporation http://www.proxim.com Email: cwa...@proxim.com Private: http://www.cvandewater.info Skype: cor_van_de_water Tel: +1 408 383 7626 -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Lee Hart via EV Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 2:31 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: [EVDL] Controller page updates Hi gang, I've been adding content to the Sunrise EV website in an effort to make it more useful. I just added documentation on the Henney Kilowatt rectactor controller (the earliest solid-state controller that I know of). I'm no web designer, so I stick with simple HTML4 for everything to keep it simple and small. I tried something new here, and am wondering if it works on other people's computers. If you have a moment, go to http://www.sunrise-ev.com and about halfway down the page under Recent Updates, click the Motor Controllers link. That should take you to the controllers page. Halfway down that page is the Henney schematic. It has a series of clickable links for off, start, slow, medium, fast, etc. Clicking them should change the schematic to show the current paths in red for each speed. If they work, great! If there's a problem, could you send me an email (off list at leeah...@earthlink.net) so I can figure out what I'm doing wrong and fix it? Thanks! -- An engineer can do for a nickel what any damn fool can do for a dollar. -- Henry Ford -- Lee Hart's EV projects are at http://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
