Re: AI

['cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List]

No worries, not interested in anything you could possibly be cooking up in that 
Redneck kitchen of yours. It's not the heat so much as the total lack of any 
nutritional value, in the gruel you mistake for food. 
 
  On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 10:24 PM, spudboy100 via Everything 
List wrote:   And all I did originally, was 
to respond the insertion, by yourself, of doing a jibe at Don, when blathering 
about AI. But its true what Harry Truman said, If you can't take the heat, get 
out of the kitchen. Understandable. 


-Original Message-
From: 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List 

To: everything-list 
Sent: Tue, Jun 20, 2017 12:33 am
Subject: Re: AI

Cupcake... Life... is not some kind of team spectator sport. As I said before 
descending down into your particular stupid does not appeal nor does it rise to 
the level of being sport for me... rather it is more a dull tedium I engage in 
with you, driven by a vestigal remaining sense of my civic duty. You may just 
be a basement poser... an unimportant pawn... just another no nothing, as well 
as being, more than a bit of a bore!
But, we live in interesting times and in times such as these crazy can crawl 
out of the box the sane people of the world keep it in and then crazy shit 
does happen. Crazy is a box I'd personally rather see kept firmly shut. So when 
I see crazyness like yours, cross my inbox I'm going to pour ice all over your 
Redneck wet dreams cupcake.
End transmission.-Chris 
 
 On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 9:01 PM, spudboy100 via Everything 
List wrote:  Chris its your team, own it. No 
'rise' is necessary since we are dealing with facts. Dems are good with antifa, 
as foot soldiers, dems were so-so with the shooter. The tea baggers never 
killed anyone, and the Evergreen academics that populate all campuses now, do 
indulge in aggression, as long as the target is the rest of us. Things may cool 
down, but this is unlikely as the Party has dedicated itself toward coup de 
tat' as a policy. My question is how big will the back-reaction (optical 
physics term) from my side will be? If we're passive, your team wins, if we're 
belligerent, we win, again.  


-Original Message-
From: 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List 

To: everything-list 
Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 11:33 pm
Subject: Re: AI

Hold it right there, cupcake, you're not drawing me into the spin cycle of the 
particlar bubble of stupid you elect to inhabit. Those aren't my people, in 
precisely the same way and for the same reasons that you spudboy (whatever your 
name is)... an individual who appears to me to demostrate a border line 
personality, havig a fragile grasp on reality, who is luridly gun violence 
obsessed, and a questionably psychotc individual... yout too cupcake, are also 
not my people. I find the entire bunch of you unthinking idots, on the right or 
the left... unworthy of respect. I don't take you seriously, at all... least of 
all your quasi religious recital of violence prone Redneck fantasies.
You don't even get a rise out of me anymore cupcake... you are frankly speaking 
mundane, merely commonplace... a rather uninteresting Tea Party talking points 
regurgitator.
You say... "Your people..."  and I am LMFAO 
I guess you can't help being stupid, you really shouldn't let it get you so 
worked up and angry though. It's not like getting angry like this makes you any 
smarter.
-Chris

 
 
 On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 7:43 PM, spudboy100 via Everything 
List wrote:  Chris, your shooter, last 
weekend, your antifa rioters, on every campus, your Berkeley, your Evergreen. 
Your team leads in violence and intolerance sweepstakes. But this is the 
chatter of keyboard conflict. Its not income inequality, nor, lack of skills 
but your team's hunger for the glories of a one party state, which incidentally 
are now wholly financed by your billionaires. All that aside I am guessing that 
when the ball drops on Don, we will erupt in a insurgency against your 
establishment. As Darwin said it, "A nature red in tooth and claw." Now 
assuming this passes as plausible, who do you think will win? Will your team be 
able to successfully suppress the narod,  the lumpen proletariat, whom your 
team wants to eliminate? Consider this a purely academic thought experiment. 


-Original Message-
From: 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List 

To: everything-list 
Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 10:17 pm
Subject: Re: AI

@spudboy IMO, you listen to way too much talk radio there cupcake. In order to 
get a firmer grip on reality may I kindly suggest that you widen the circle of 
places you habitually go to get your (opinion) news.I left this thread a few 
responses 

Re: AI

[Brent Meeker]

Understandable from a wimp who won't even put his real name in the kitchen.

Brent

On 6/19/2017 10:24 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
And all I did originally, was to respond the insertion, by yourself, 
of doing a jibe at Don, when blathering about AI. But its true what 
Harry Truman said, If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. 
Understandable. 


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Re: AI

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

And all I did originally, was to respond the insertion, by yourself, of doing a 
jibe at Don, when blathering about AI. But its true what Harry Truman said, If 
you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. Understandable. 



-Original Message-
From: 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List 

To: everything-list 
Sent: Tue, Jun 20, 2017 12:33 am
Subject: Re: AI



Cupcake... Life... is not some kind of team spectator sport. As I said before 
descending down into your particular stupid does not appeal nor does it rise to 
the level of being sport for me... rather it is more a dull tedium I engage in 
with you, driven by a vestigal remaining sense of my civic duty. You may just 
be a basement poser... an unimportant pawn... just another no nothing, as well 
as being, more than a bit of a bore!


But, we live in interesting times and in times such as these crazy can crawl 
out of the box the sane people of the world keep it in and then crazy shit 
does happen. Crazy is a box I'd personally rather see kept firmly shut. So when 
I see crazyness like yours, cross my inbox I'm going to pour ice all over your 
Redneck wet dreams cupcake.


End transmission.
-Chris
 
 
  
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 9:01 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List
 wrote:
  
 
Chris its your team, own it. No 'rise' is necessary since we are dealing with 
facts. Dems are good with antifa, as foot soldiers, dems were so-so with the 
shooter. The tea baggers never killed anyone, and the Evergreen academics that 
populate all campuses now, do indulge in aggression, as long as the target is 
the rest of us. Things may cool down, but this is unlikely as the Party has 
dedicated itself toward coup de tat' as a policy. My question is how big will 
the back-reaction (optical physics term) from my side will be? If we're 
passive, your team wins, if we're belligerent, we win, again.  



-Original Message-
From: 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List 

To: everything-list 
Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 11:33 pm
Subject: Re: AI



Hold it right there, cupcake, you're not drawing me into the spin cycle of the 
particlar bubble of stupid you elect to inhabit. Those aren't my people, in 
precisely the same way and for the same reasons that you spudboy (whatever your 
name is)... an individual who appears to me to demostrate a border line 
personality, havig a fragile grasp on reality, who is luridly gun violence 
obsessed, and a questionably psychotc individual... yout too cupcake, are also 
not my people. I find the entire bunch of you unthinking idots, on the right or 
the left... unworthy of respect. I don't take you seriously, at all... least of 
all your quasi religious recital of violence prone Redneck fantasies.


You don't even get a rise out of me anymore cupcake... you are frankly speaking 
mundane, merely commonplace... a rather uninteresting Tea Party talking points 
regurgitator.


You say... "Your people..."  and I am LMFAO 


I guess you can't help being stupid, you really shouldn't let it get you so 
worked up and angry though. It's not like getting angry like this makes you any 
smarter.


-Chris




 
 
  
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 7:43 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List
 wrote:
  
 
Chris, your shooter, last weekend, your antifa rioters, on every campus, your 
Berkeley, your Evergreen. Your team leads in violence and intolerance 
sweepstakes. But this is the chatter of keyboard conflict. Its not income 
inequality, nor, lack of skills but your team's hunger for the glories of a one 
party state, which incidentally are now wholly financed by your billionaires. 
All that aside I am guessing that when the ball drops on Don, we will erupt in 
a insurgency against your establishment. As Darwin said it, "A nature red in 
tooth and claw." Now assuming this passes as plausible, who do you think will 
win? Will your team be able to successfully suppress the narod,  the lumpen 
proletariat, whom your team wants to eliminate? Consider this a purely academic 
thought experiment. 



-Original Message-
From: 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List 

To: everything-list 
Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 10:17 pm
Subject: Re: AI



@spudboy IMO, you listen to way too much talk radio there cupcake. In order to 
get a firmer grip on reality may I kindly suggest that you widen the circle of 
places you habitually go to get your (opinion) news.
I left this thread a few responses back, and skimming through your 
semi-literate stream of charged polemical and violence prone invective has 
served as an ample and clear confirmation of my original points. You are an 
angry man, that much is clear, possibly because you are a member of the newly 
marginilized cass of low 

Re: AI

['cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List]

Cupcake... Life... is not some kind of team spectator sport. As I said before 
descending down into your particular stupid does not appeal nor does it rise to 
the level of being sport for me... rather it is more a dull tedium I engage in 
with you, driven by a vestigal remaining sense of my civic duty. You may just 
be a basement poser... an unimportant pawn... just another no nothing, as well 
as being, more than a bit of a bore!
But, we live in interesting times and in times such as these crazy can crawl 
out of the box the sane people of the world keep it in and then crazy shit 
does happen. Crazy is a box I'd personally rather see kept firmly shut. So when 
I see crazyness like yours, cross my inbox I'm going to pour ice all over your 
Redneck wet dreams cupcake.
End transmission.-Chris 
 
  On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 9:01 PM, spudboy100 via Everything 
List wrote:   Chris its your team, own it. No 
'rise' is necessary since we are dealing with facts. Dems are good with antifa, 
as foot soldiers, dems were so-so with the shooter. The tea baggers never 
killed anyone, and the Evergreen academics that populate all campuses now, do 
indulge in aggression, as long as the target is the rest of us. Things may cool 
down, but this is unlikely as the Party has dedicated itself toward coup de 
tat' as a policy. My question is how big will the back-reaction (optical 
physics term) from my side will be? If we're passive, your team wins, if we're 
belligerent, we win, again.  


-Original Message-
From: 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List 

To: everything-list 
Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 11:33 pm
Subject: Re: AI

Hold it right there, cupcake, you're not drawing me into the spin cycle of the 
particlar bubble of stupid you elect to inhabit. Those aren't my people, in 
precisely the same way and for the same reasons that you spudboy (whatever your 
name is)... an individual who appears to me to demostrate a border line 
personality, havig a fragile grasp on reality, who is luridly gun violence 
obsessed, and a questionably psychotc individual... yout too cupcake, are also 
not my people. I find the entire bunch of you unthinking idots, on the right or 
the left... unworthy of respect. I don't take you seriously, at all... least of 
all your quasi religious recital of violence prone Redneck fantasies.
You don't even get a rise out of me anymore cupcake... you are frankly speaking 
mundane, merely commonplace... a rather uninteresting Tea Party talking points 
regurgitator.
You say... "Your people..."  and I am LMFAO 
I guess you can't help being stupid, you really shouldn't let it get you so 
worked up and angry though. It's not like getting angry like this makes you any 
smarter.
-Chris

 
 
 On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 7:43 PM, spudboy100 via Everything 
List wrote:  Chris, your shooter, last 
weekend, your antifa rioters, on every campus, your Berkeley, your Evergreen. 
Your team leads in violence and intolerance sweepstakes. But this is the 
chatter of keyboard conflict. Its not income inequality, nor, lack of skills 
but your team's hunger for the glories of a one party state, which incidentally 
are now wholly financed by your billionaires. All that aside I am guessing that 
when the ball drops on Don, we will erupt in a insurgency against your 
establishment. As Darwin said it, "A nature red in tooth and claw." Now 
assuming this passes as plausible, who do you think will win? Will your team be 
able to successfully suppress the narod,  the lumpen proletariat, whom your 
team wants to eliminate? Consider this a purely academic thought experiment. 


-Original Message-
From: 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List 

To: everything-list 
Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 10:17 pm
Subject: Re: AI

@spudboy IMO, you listen to way too much talk radio there cupcake. In order to 
get a firmer grip on reality may I kindly suggest that you widen the circle of 
places you habitually go to get your (opinion) news.I left this thread a few 
responses back, and skimming through your semi-literate stream of charged 
polemical and violence prone invective has served as an ample and clear 
confirmation of my original points. You are an angry man, that much is clear, 
possibly because you are a member of the newly marginilized cass of low 
education older white males. Instead of waiting for your Redneck uprising I 
think a more effective use of your time would be to pick up some actual 
marketable skill... you could of course, keep sitting in your basement cleaning 
your guns (does it make you feel like a man?) waiting for that glorious day 
when you and your ilk get to go on a glorious Redneck mass murder spree.
Time will pass you by as you wait for your promised day of glorious bloody 
Redneck vengeance, and 

Re: AI

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Chris its your team, own it. No 'rise' is necessary since we are dealing with 
facts. Dems are good with antifa, as foot soldiers, dems were so-so with the 
shooter. The tea baggers never killed anyone, and the Evergreen academics that 
populate all campuses now, do indulge in aggression, as long as the target is 
the rest of us. Things may cool down, but this is unlikely as the Party has 
dedicated itself toward coup de tat' as a policy. My question is how big will 
the back-reaction (optical physics term) from my side will be? If we're 
passive, your team wins, if we're belligerent, we win, again.  



-Original Message-
From: 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List 

To: everything-list 
Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 11:33 pm
Subject: Re: AI



Hold it right there, cupcake, you're not drawing me into the spin cycle of the 
particlar bubble of stupid you elect to inhabit. Those aren't my people, in 
precisely the same way and for the same reasons that you spudboy (whatever your 
name is)... an individual who appears to me to demostrate a border line 
personality, havig a fragile grasp on reality, who is luridly gun violence 
obsessed, and a questionably psychotc individual... yout too cupcake, are also 
not my people. I find the entire bunch of you unthinking idots, on the right or 
the left... unworthy of respect. I don't take you seriously, at all... least of 
all your quasi religious recital of violence prone Redneck fantasies.


You don't even get a rise out of me anymore cupcake... you are frankly speaking 
mundane, merely commonplace... a rather uninteresting Tea Party talking points 
regurgitator.


You say... "Your people..."  and I am LMFAO 


I guess you can't help being stupid, you really shouldn't let it get you so 
worked up and angry though. It's not like getting angry like this makes you any 
smarter.


-Chris




 
 
  
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 7:43 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List
 wrote:
  
 
Chris, your shooter, last weekend, your antifa rioters, on every campus, your 
Berkeley, your Evergreen. Your team leads in violence and intolerance 
sweepstakes. But this is the chatter of keyboard conflict. Its not income 
inequality, nor, lack of skills but your team's hunger for the glories of a one 
party state, which incidentally are now wholly financed by your billionaires. 
All that aside I am guessing that when the ball drops on Don, we will erupt in 
a insurgency against your establishment. As Darwin said it, "A nature red in 
tooth and claw." Now assuming this passes as plausible, who do you think will 
win? Will your team be able to successfully suppress the narod,  the lumpen 
proletariat, whom your team wants to eliminate? Consider this a purely academic 
thought experiment. 



-Original Message-
From: 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List 

To: everything-list 
Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 10:17 pm
Subject: Re: AI



@spudboy IMO, you listen to way too much talk radio there cupcake. In order to 
get a firmer grip on reality may I kindly suggest that you widen the circle of 
places you habitually go to get your (opinion) news.
I left this thread a few responses back, and skimming through your 
semi-literate stream of charged polemical and violence prone invective has 
served as an ample and clear confirmation of my original points. You are an 
angry man, that much is clear, possibly because you are a member of the newly 
marginilized cass of low education older white males. Instead of waiting for 
your Redneck uprising I think a more effective use of your time would be to 
pick up some actual marketable skill... you could of course, keep sitting in 
your basement cleaning your guns (does it make you feel like a man?) waiting 
for that glorious day when you and your ilk get to go on a glorious Redneck 
mass murder spree.


Time will pass you by as you wait for your promised day of glorious bloody 
Redneck vengeance, and in the end all that you'll gain is to grow stupid & old, 
encased in a self made tomb of your own assinine bitterness.


As your very own Donald would tweet...


Sad... so sad!


-Chris


 
 
  
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 6:42 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List
 wrote:
  
 
Yah, the neat part is your thugs will force us into a team, as your leadership 
did before the last election, to their dismay. So the people the Dems hate, 
will respond in kind and en masse. Rule by the antifa party is now way to live, 
ya know? Venezuelan socialism may thrill your team, for the rest of us, we will 
likely do an insurgency thing against your Resistance, so it should be 
interesting.

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail


-Original Message-
From: Brent Meeker 
To: spudboy100 via Everything List 
Sent: Mon, Jun 

Re: AI

['cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List]

Hold it right there, cupcake, you're not drawing me into the spin cycle of the 
particlar bubble of stupid you elect to inhabit. Those aren't my people, in 
precisely the same way and for the same reasons that you spudboy (whatever your 
name is)... an individual who appears to me to demostrate a border line 
personality, havig a fragile grasp on reality, who is luridly gun violence 
obsessed, and a questionably psychotc individual... yout too cupcake, are also 
not my people. I find the entire bunch of you unthinking idots, on the right or 
the left... unworthy of respect. I don't take you seriously, at all... least of 
all your quasi religious recital of violence prone Redneck fantasies.
You don't even get a rise out of me anymore cupcake... you are frankly speaking 
mundane, merely commonplace... a rather uninteresting Tea Party talking points 
regurgitator.
You say... "Your people..."  and I am LMFAO 
I guess you can't help being stupid, you really shouldn't let it get you so 
worked up and angry though. It's not like getting angry like this makes you any 
smarter.
-Chris

 
 
  On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 7:43 PM, spudboy100 via Everything 
List wrote:   Chris, your shooter, last 
weekend, your antifa rioters, on every campus, your Berkeley, your Evergreen. 
Your team leads in violence and intolerance sweepstakes. But this is the 
chatter of keyboard conflict. Its not income inequality, nor, lack of skills 
but your team's hunger for the glories of a one party state, which incidentally 
are now wholly financed by your billionaires. All that aside I am guessing that 
when the ball drops on Don, we will erupt in a insurgency against your 
establishment. As Darwin said it, "A nature red in tooth and claw." Now 
assuming this passes as plausible, who do you think will win? Will your team be 
able to successfully suppress the narod,  the lumpen proletariat, whom your 
team wants to eliminate? Consider this a purely academic thought experiment. 


-Original Message-
From: 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List 

To: everything-list 
Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 10:17 pm
Subject: Re: AI

@spudboy IMO, you listen to way too much talk radio there cupcake. In order to 
get a firmer grip on reality may I kindly suggest that you widen the circle of 
places you habitually go to get your (opinion) news.I left this thread a few 
responses back, and skimming through your semi-literate stream of charged 
polemical and violence prone invective has served as an ample and clear 
confirmation of my original points. You are an angry man, that much is clear, 
possibly because you are a member of the newly marginilized cass of low 
education older white males. Instead of waiting for your Redneck uprising I 
think a more effective use of your time would be to pick up some actual 
marketable skill... you could of course, keep sitting in your basement cleaning 
your guns (does it make you feel like a man?) waiting for that glorious day 
when you and your ilk get to go on a glorious Redneck mass murder spree.
Time will pass you by as you wait for your promised day of glorious bloody 
Redneck vengeance, and in the end all that you'll gain is to grow stupid & old, 
encased in a self made tomb of your own assinine bitterness.
As your very own Donald would tweet...
Sad... so sad!
-Chris
 
 
 On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 6:42 PM, spudboy100 via Everything 
List wrote:  Yah, the neat part is your thugs 
will force us into a team, as your leadership did before the last election, to 
their dismay. So the people the Dems hate, will respond in kind and en masse. 
Rule by the antifa party is now way to live, ya know? Venezuelan socialism may 
thrill your team, for the rest of us, we will likely do an insurgency thing 
against your Resistance, so it should be interesting.

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail


-Original Message-
From: Brent Meeker 
To: spudboy100 via Everything List 
Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 09:32 PM
Subject: Re: AI


 
 
 On 6/19/2017 6:16 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
  
His ideas are stupid only because you filter reality with ideology. Causality 
goes out the window when it comes to liberal narratives, socialist thought, 
group Identity and loyalty. But this struggle isn't one of sweet reason, but 
rather, nature, red in tooth and claw. My question is can you contain our 
insurgency if and when  Don gets impeached? 
 
 Are you going to join an insurgency against the U.S. government to prevent The 
Dump from being tried by the Senate/
 
 
Since its really come down to this, can your shooters match our (redneck) 
shooters? 
 
 Well, I was on the NROTC rifle team in Texas.  And I've gone 12 for 12 against 
doves.
 
 
Your guy last weekend was tolerable until he had to go against the capitol 
police. Nobody yet from our 

Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

[Pierz]

On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 3:08:42 AM UTC+10, Brent wrote:
>
>
>
> On 6/19/2017 2:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> So back to quantum computation: what I think that QC demonstrates 
> (independently of it being realised by network models or cluster 
> states) is that the superposition of states really does mean that the 
> various states **exist**. 
>
>
> Superposition of states just means you choose a basis for the states that 
> did not have the right eigenstates.  "Being in a superpostion" is just a 
> coordinate choice.  It's like saying that going from Bermuda to London is a 
> superposition of north-traveling and east-traveling. 
>
>
> ? That resembles a confusion between pure state and mixed state. 
>
>
> I didn't say anything about mixed states.  I pointed out that any pure 
> state can be expressed as a superposition by writing it in basis other than 
> its eigenbasis.  This is not unique so which states appear in the 
> superposition is matter of choice.  That makes it hard to regard them as 
> existing.
>
> I am sure you are aware of the difference so I find this answer very 
> weird. It brushes away all the interpretation problem we have of the facts 
> (not just the theory). Single photon (or molecule) interference would not 
> exist if pure state where not also superposition in the rotated base. 
>
>
> Why would you say that if I fly from Bermuda to London it demonstrates 
> that flights from Bermuda to Algiers and Algiers to London exist?  
>

No, but if when nobody is watching you fly, you arrive in London with 
airport souvenirs from Algiers, well...
 

>
> Brent
>

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Re: AI

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Chris, your shooter, last weekend, your antifa rioters, on every campus, your 
Berkeley, your Evergreen. Your team leads in violence and intolerance 
sweepstakes. But this is the chatter of keyboard conflict. Its not income 
inequality, nor, lack of skills but your team's hunger for the glories of a one 
party state, which incidentally are now wholly financed by your billionaires. 
All that aside I am guessing that when the ball drops on Don, we will erupt in 
a insurgency against your establishment. As Darwin said it, "A nature red in 
tooth and claw." Now assuming this passes as plausible, who do you think will 
win? Will your team be able to successfully suppress the narod,  the lumpen 
proletariat, whom your team wants to eliminate? Consider this a purely academic 
thought experiment. 



-Original Message-
From: 'cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List 

To: everything-list 
Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 10:17 pm
Subject: Re: AI



@spudboy IMO, you listen to way too much talk radio there cupcake. In order to 
get a firmer grip on reality may I kindly suggest that you widen the circle of 
places you habitually go to get your (opinion) news.
I left this thread a few responses back, and skimming through your 
semi-literate stream of charged polemical and violence prone invective has 
served as an ample and clear confirmation of my original points. You are an 
angry man, that much is clear, possibly because you are a member of the newly 
marginilized cass of low education older white males. Instead of waiting for 
your Redneck uprising I think a more effective use of your time would be to 
pick up some actual marketable skill... you could of course, keep sitting in 
your basement cleaning your guns (does it make you feel like a man?) waiting 
for that glorious day when you and your ilk get to go on a glorious Redneck 
mass murder spree.


Time will pass you by as you wait for your promised day of glorious bloody 
Redneck vengeance, and in the end all that you'll gain is to grow stupid & old, 
encased in a self made tomb of your own assinine bitterness.


As your very own Donald would tweet...


Sad... so sad!


-Chris


 
 
  
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 6:42 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List
 wrote:
  
 
Yah, the neat part is your thugs will force us into a team, as your leadership 
did before the last election, to their dismay. So the people the Dems hate, 
will respond in kind and en masse. Rule by the antifa party is now way to live, 
ya know? Venezuelan socialism may thrill your team, for the rest of us, we will 
likely do an insurgency thing against your Resistance, so it should be 
interesting.

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail


-Original Message-
From: Brent Meeker 
To: spudboy100 via Everything List 
Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 09:32 PM
Subject: Re: AI







On 6/19/2017 6:16 PM, spudboy100 via  Everything List wrote:


His  ideas are stupid only because you filter reality with ideology.  
Causality goes out the window when it comes to liberal narratives,  
socialist thought, group Identity and loyalty. But this struggle  isn't one 
of sweet reason, but rather, nature, red in tooth and  claw. My question is 
can you contain our insurgency if and when  Don gets impeached? 

Are you going to join an insurgency against the U.S. government to
prevent The Dump from being tried by the Senate/


Since  its really come down to this, can your shooters match our  
(redneck) shooters? 

Well, I was on the NROTC rifle team in Texas.  And I've gone 12 for12 
against doves.


Your guy  last weekend was tolerable until he had to go against the capitol 
 police. Nobody yet from our team has challenged your antifa crew,  as 
yet. Let me me know.


Maybe that's because you have no "team".

Brent



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  From: Brent Meeker 
  To: spudboy100 via Everything List  
  Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 08:26 PM
  Subject: Re: AI
  
  
  

 
  
  
On 6/19/2017 4:58 PM,spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
  
  
It's not Don's brains, who has more than  either of us, 
  
  Don's brains have more what?  Stupid ideas...I'd agree with  
that.
  
  
it's the opposition. You guys, the antifa  (see spot riot, see spot 
shoot!). There was now an  announcement at the U of Georgia 
socialists proclaiming  that calls for beheading a republican. 
  
  Do you ever think of actually giving references.  I know it's 
 troublesome 

Re: AI

['cdemorse...@yahoo.com' via Everything List]

@spudboy IMO, you listen to way too much talk radio there cupcake. In order to 
get a firmer grip on reality may I kindly suggest that you widen the circle of 
places you habitually go to get your (opinion) news.I left this thread a few 
responses back, and skimming through your semi-literate stream of charged 
polemical and violence prone invective has served as an ample and clear 
confirmation of my original points. You are an angry man, that much is clear, 
possibly because you are a member of the newly marginilized cass of low 
education older white males. Instead of waiting for your Redneck uprising I 
think a more effective use of your time would be to pick up some actual 
marketable skill... you could of course, keep sitting in your basement cleaning 
your guns (does it make you feel like a man?) waiting for that glorious day 
when you and your ilk get to go on a glorious Redneck mass murder spree.
Time will pass you by as you wait for your promised day of glorious bloody 
Redneck vengeance, and in the end all that you'll gain is to grow stupid & old, 
encased in a self made tomb of your own assinine bitterness.
As your very own Donald would tweet...
Sad... so sad!
-Chris
 
 
  On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 6:42 PM, spudboy100 via Everything 
List wrote:   Yah, the neat part is your 
thugs will force us into a team, as your leadership did before the last 
election, to their dismay. So the people the Dems hate, will respond in kind 
and en masse. Rule by the antifa party is now way to live, ya know? Venezuelan 
socialism may thrill your team, for the rest of us, we will likely do an 
insurgency thing against your Resistance, so it should be interesting.

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-Original Message-
From: Brent Meeker 
To: spudboy100 via Everything List 
Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 09:32 PM
Subject: Re: AI


 
 
 On 6/19/2017 6:16 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
  
His ideas are stupid only because you filter reality with ideology. Causality 
goes out the window when it comes to liberal narratives, socialist thought, 
group Identity and loyalty. But this struggle isn't one of sweet reason, but 
rather, nature, red in tooth and claw. My question is can you contain our 
insurgency if and when  Don gets impeached? 
 
 Are you going to join an insurgency against the U.S. government to prevent The 
Dump from being tried by the Senate/
 
 
Since its really come down to this, can your shooters match our (redneck) 
shooters? 
 
 Well, I was on the NROTC rifle team in Texas.  And I've gone 12 for 12 against 
doves.
 
 
Your guy last weekend was tolerable until he had to go against the capitol 
police. Nobody yet from our team has challenged your antifa crew, as yet. Let 
me me know.
 
 
 Maybe that's because you have no "team".
 
 Brent
 
 

 Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Brent Meeker 
 To: spudboy100 via Everything List 
 Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 08:26 PM
 Subject: Re: AI
 
 
   
 
 On 6/19/2017 4:58 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
  
It's not Don's brains, who has more than either of us, 
 
 Don's brains have more what?  Stupid ideas...I'd agree with that.
 
 
it's the opposition. You guys, the antifa (see spot riot, see spot shoot!). 
There was now an announcement at the U of Georgia socialists proclaiming  that 
calls for beheading a republican. 
 
 Do you ever think of actually giving references.  I know it's troublesome to 
write actual facts.  But until you figure out how, put a spud in it.
 
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Re: AI

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Yah, the neat part is your thugs will force us into a team, as your leadership 
did before the last election, to their dismay. So the people the Dems hate, 
will respond in kind and en masse. Rule by the antifa party is now way to live, 
ya know? Venezuelan socialism may thrill your team, for the rest of us, we will 
likely do an insurgency thing against your Resistance, so it should be 
interesting.

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-Original Message-
From: Brent Meeker 
To: spudboy100 via Everything List 
Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 09:32 PM
Subject: Re: AI









On 6/19/2017 6:16 PM, spudboy100 via
  Everything List wrote:


His
  ideas are stupid only because you filter reality with ideology.
  Causality goes out the window when it comes to liberal narratives,
  socialist thought, group Identity and loyalty. But this struggle
  isn't one of sweet reason, but rather, nature, red in tooth and
  claw. My question is can you contain our insurgency if and when
  Don gets impeached? 


Are you going to join an insurgency against the U.S. government to
prevent The Dump from being tried by the Senate/



Since
  its really come down to this, can your shooters match our
  (redneck) shooters? 


Well, I was on the NROTC rifle team in Texas.  And I've gone 12 for
12 against doves.



Your guy
  last weekend was tolerable until he had to go against the capitol
  police. Nobody yet from our team has challenged your antifa crew,
  as yet. Let me me know.




Maybe that's because you have no "team".



Brent





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  Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 08:26 PM

  Subject: Re: AI

  

  

  
 

  

  On 6/19/2017 4:58 PM,
spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:

  
  It's not Don's brains, who has more than
  either of us, 
  

  Don's brains have more what?  Stupid ideas...I'd agree with
  that.

  

  it's the opposition. You guys, the antifa
  (see spot riot, see spot shoot!). There was now an
  announcement at the U of Georgia socialists proclaiming
  that calls for beheading a republican. 
  

  Do you ever think of actually giving references.  I know it's
  troublesome to write actual facts.  But until you figure out
  how, put a spud in it.

  

  Brent

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Re: AI

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Somehow, commanding respect from the street Stalinist wing of american politics 
is not high on my personal agenda. That Putin magically manipulated votes, is 
akin to farmers blaming witches for bad weather, which was a phenomena of th 
Little Ice Age when bad weather produced witch hunts. Please be advised that 
Don is the symptom and not the cause of an a American insurgency against 
democrat elites determined to screw over (de facto) the rest of the country 
whom they despise, or as Hillary said, deplore. How success, so far, has your 
team been in persuading the Don voter, that they were wrong? Your buddy Obama, 
under a hot Mic, once told Medvedev that he would have more flexibility after 
the 2012 election. How's those working out for you?

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On Mon, Jun 19, 2017  spudboy100 via 
Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

​>​It's not 
Don's brains, who has more than either of us,

​Speak for 
yourself!​ 
​> ​That 
the Rooshians are responsible for hilly's loss, lack any evidence so 
far.

​I assume 
"​Rooshians​" is your 
hillbilly-speak for the Russians, well all ​!8 American 
intelligence agencies say the Russians hacked the Democratic headquarters and 
stole thousands of Emails from them that Donald Trump talked about extensively 
during nearly every day of his presidential campaign, and he asked the 
"Rooshians​" to try to 
steal even more. Did that have an effect on the election, without that could 
Clinton have gotten just 77,000 more votes to add to the 3 million advantage 
she already had over Trump and won the election? Isn't the answer obvious?  
Trump owes Vladimir Putin 
enormously (or in trump's native hillbilly-speak​ 
"bigly")​.  
   
  
​> ​Your 
team and the rest love doing the isis thing.​ 



​You sir are a 
ass.​ 


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Re: AI

[Brent Meeker]

On 6/19/2017 6:16 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
His ideas are stupid only because you filter reality with ideology. 
Causality goes out the window when it comes to liberal narratives, 
socialist thought, group Identity and loyalty. But this struggle isn't 
one of sweet reason, but rather, nature, red in tooth and claw. My 
question is can you contain our insurgency if and when Don gets 
impeached? 


Are you going to join an insurgency against the U.S. government to 
prevent The Dump from being tried by the Senate/


Since its really come down to this, can your shooters match our 
(redneck) shooters? 


Well, I was on the NROTC rifle team in Texas.  And I've gone 12 for 12 
against doves.


Your guy last weekend was tolerable until he had to go against the 
capitol police. Nobody yet from our team has challenged your antifa 
crew, as yet. Let me me know.


Maybe that's because you have no "team".

Brent



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To: spudboy100 via Everything List 
Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 08:26 PM
Subject: Re: AI




On 6/19/2017 4:58 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:

It's not Don's brains, who has more than either of us, 



Don's brains have more what?  Stupid ideas...I'd agree with that.

it's the opposition. You guys, the antifa (see spot riot, see spot
shoot!). There was now an announcement at the U of Georgia
socialists proclaiming that calls for beheading a republican. 



Do you ever think of actually giving references.  I know it's 
troublesome to write actual facts.  But until you figure out how, put 
a spud in it.


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Re: AI

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

His ideas are stupid only because you filter reality with ideology. Causality 
goes out the window when it comes to liberal narratives, socialist thought, 
group Identity and loyalty. But this struggle isn't one of sweet reason, but 
rather, nature, red in tooth and claw. My question is can you contain our 
insurgency if and when Don gets impeached? Since its really come down to this, 
can your shooters match our (redneck) shooters? Your guy last weekend was 
tolerable until he had to go against the capitol police. Nobody yet from our 
team has challenged your antifa crew, as yet. Let me me know.

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Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 08:26 PM
Subject: Re: AI









On 6/19/2017 4:58 PM, spudboy100 via
  Everything List wrote:


It's not Don's brains, who
has more than either of us, 


Don's brains have more what?  Stupid ideas...I'd agree with that.



it's the opposition. You
guys, the antifa (see spot riot, see spot shoot!). There was now
an announcement at the U of Georgia socialists proclaiming that
calls for beheading a republican. 


Do you ever think of actually giving references.  I know it's
troublesome to write actual facts.  But until you figure out how,
put a spud in it.



Brent

  




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Re: AI

[John Clark]

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017  spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

​>​
> It's not Don's brains, who has more than either of us,


​Speak for yourself!​


​> ​
> That the Rooshians are responsible for hilly's loss, lack any evidence so
> far.


​I assume "​
Rooshians
​" is your hillbilly-speak for the Russians, well all
​!8 American intelligence agencies say the Russians hacked the Democratic
headquarters and stole thousands of Emails from them that Donald Trump
talked about extensively during nearly every day of his presidential
campaign, and he asked the "
Rooshians
​" to try to steal even more. Did that have an effect on the election,
without that could Clinton have gotten just 77,000 more votes to add to the
3 million advantage she already had over Trump and won the election? Isn't
the answer obvious?  Trump owes
 Vladimir Putin enormously (or in trump's native
hillbilly-speak
​ "bigly")​.




> ​> ​
> Your team and the rest love doing the isis thing.
> ​
>

​You sir are a ass.​


​John K Clark​

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Re: AI

[Brent Meeker]

On 6/19/2017 4:58 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
It's not Don's brains, who has more than either of us, 


Don's brains have more what?  Stupid ideas...I'd agree with that.

it's the opposition. You guys, the antifa (see spot riot, see spot 
shoot!). There was now an announcement at the U of Georgia socialists 
proclaiming that calls for beheading a republican. 


Do you ever think of actually giving references.  I know it's 
troublesome to write actual facts.  But until you figure out how, put a 
spud in it.


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Re: AI

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

It's not Don's brains, who has more than either of us, it's the opposition. You 
guys, the antifa (see spot riot, see spot shoot!). There was now an 
announcement at the U of Georgia socialists proclaiming that calls for 
beheading a republican. Your team and the rest love doing the isis thing. That 
the Rooshians are responsible for hilly's loss, lack any evidence so far. 
Please offer it up when you get chance. You need magic Putin to explain how you 
guys lost so big? Really?  


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Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 7:19 pm
Subject: Re: AI



On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 , spudboy100 via Everything List 
 wrote:




​> ​
I would say that if one believes that Glad won Don the last election then that 
is the penultimate in excuses for a pathetic candidate and her even more 
pathetic voter base.



​
Clinton got 3 million more votes that Trump. If Clinton got just 77,000 more 
votes spread over 3 states she world be president today. Vladimir Putin
​ 
hacked the democrats and gave thousands of embarrassing E-mails to Donald to 
use as he wished, and he did in almost every political speech he made, he also 
encouraged Russia to hack his opponent again. 
​ ​
So of course Trump owes his victory to
​  
Vladimir Putin
​!​

 


​> ​
The peasants have arisen antifa-comrade,



See spot run! Run spot run! 
See 
antifa-comrade
​ arise! Arise 
antifa-comrade
​ 
arise!  ​
​

 

 Got anymore? 



​Do I have more examples of Trump's jaw dropping stupidity? Of course I have 
more! But how many more do you need before you realize Trump and you are on the 
wrong side of history?  




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Re: AI

[John Clark]

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 , spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

​> ​
> I would say that if one believes that Glad won Don the last election then
> that is the penultimate in excuses for a pathetic candidate and her even
> more pathetic voter base.


​
Clinton got 3 million more votes that Trump. If Clinton got just 77,000
more votes spread over 3 states she world be president today. Vladimir Putin
​
hacked the democrats and gave thousands of embarrassing E-mails to Donald
to use as he wished, and he did in almost every political speech he made,
he also encouraged Russia to hack his opponent again.
​ ​
So of course Trump owes his victory to
​
Vladimir Putin
​!​


> ​> ​
> The peasants have arisen antifa-comrade,


See spot run! Run spot run!
See
antifa-comrade
​ arise! Arise
antifa-comrade
​
arise!  ​
​


> Got anymore?


​Do I have more examples of Trump's jaw dropping stupidity? Of course I
have more! But how many more do you need before you realize Trump and you
are on the wrong side of history?

John K Clark ​

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Re: AI

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Well in your case it is an active verb, as in to Antifa, that is, to act as a 
fascist in the phony name of antifascism. Originally, the was a UK noun, from 
the Corbynite Labor Party. 

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On Mon, Jun 19, 2017  spudboy100 via 
Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

​> ​The 
voice of reason? Maybe. It's your shooter, your antifa rioters, and the facts 
speak for themselves. 

​Come on Spudboy be a good old boy and give us a hint, is a 
"​antifa​" a noun a verb a adjective or a adverb? 



John K 
Clark​

 



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[John Clark]

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everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

​> ​
> The voice of reason? Maybe. It's your shooter, your antifa rioters, and
> the facts speak for themselves.


​Come on Spudboy be a good old boy and give us a hint, is a "​
antifa
​" a noun a verb a adjective or a adverb?

John K Clark​

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Re: AI

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

I would say that if one believes that Glad won Don the last election then that 
is the penultimate in excuses for a pathetic candidate and her even more 
pathetic voter base. The peasants have arisen antifa-comrade, and so the once 
democratic party will do or say anything to regain power. Your shooter of last 
weekend didn't stop us. Got anymore? 

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To: everything-list 
Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 06:03 PM
Subject: Re: AI




On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 , spudboy100 via 
Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:


 who is dumber, the donald, or the women 
that lost to him?
​
​That's easy, the 
answer is Vladimir​'s best friend, 
​The Donald. It's Trump not Hillary​ 
who thinks​ 
Barack Obama was not born in the 
USA​, and vaccines cause autism, and Ted Cruz's father 
helped assassinate John F Kennedy​,​ 
and​ 
ISIS is honoring President Barack 
Obama​ 
because he is ​​LITERALLY the founder of ISIS and Hillary Clinton is ​t​he​ 
co-founder​,​​ 
and that​ 
"Hillary is​ 
 responsible for making Iran the dominant 
power in the Middle East and on the road to nuclear weapons”​ ​and that 
"China has total control just about of North Korea”​ 
and that "our nuclear arsenal doesn’t 
work.”​ 
and that​ 
“Our military is very depleted. Extremely 
depleted”​ 
and that​ 
"Hillary Clinton said​ 
she wants to raise taxes on the middle 
class "​,
 and that​ 
 "For the amount of money Hillary Clinton 
would like to spend on refugees, we could rebuild every inner city in America." 
and that "Crime is rising"​,​ ​ and that 
​"I​ 
​can eliminate​ 
the entire 18 thousand billion dollar 
national debt in 8 years"​ 
and that "only I can fix it".​
In short Trump's mind is a hodgepodge​ 
of conspiracy  
theories, magical thinking, and urban myths and the man is 
as ignorant ​of​ how 
the real world ​works​ as a 6 year old but unlike the child is 
incapable of learning. 
 
 ​> ​It's 
your "no nothings," and now killers, that are storming the country and the 
campuses, not white rednecks. Antifa is not neutral, but serves the violent 
interests of the dems.

​I'm sure if I read more supermarket tabloids and junk news websites 
I'd be more 
fluent in the Redneck language but​ I can't make 
heads or tails of the above and ​require a translation​.​ 


​John K Clark​


 






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Re: AI

[John Clark]

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 , spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:



> who is dumber, the donald, or the women that lost to him?


​
​That's easy, the answer is
Vladimir
​'s best friend,
​
The Donald. It's Trump not Hillary
​
who thinks
​
Barack Obama was not born in the USA
​
, and vaccines cause autism, and Ted Cruz's father helped assassinate John
F Kennedy
​,​
and
​
ISIS is honoring President Barack Obama
​
because he is
​​
LITERALLY the founder of ISIS and Hillary Clinton is
​t​
he
​
co-founder
​,​
​
and that
​
"Hillary is
​
 responsible for making Iran the dominant power in the Middle East and on
the road to nuclear weapons”
​ ​
and that "China has total control just about of North Korea”
​
and that "our nuclear arsenal doesn’t work.”
​
and that
​
“Our military is very depleted. Extremely depleted”
​
and that
​
"Hillary Clinton said
​
she wants to raise taxes on the middle class "
​,
and that
​
"For the amount of money Hillary Clinton would like to spend on refugees,
we could rebuild every inner city in America." and that "Crime is rising"
​,​
​ and that ​
"I
​ ​
can eliminate
​
the entire 18 thousand billion dollar national debt in 8 years"
​ and that "only I can fix it".​

In short Trump's mind is a
hodgepodge
​
of conspiracy  theories, magical thinking, and urban myths and the man is
as ignorant
​of​
 how the real world
​works​
 as a 6 year old but unlike the child is incapable of learning.


> ​> ​
> It's your "no nothings," and now killers, that are storming the country
> and the campuses, not white rednecks. Antifa is not neutral, but serves the
> violent interests of the dems.


​I'm sure if I read more supermarket tabloids and junk news websites
I'd be more fluent in the Redneck language but​

I can't make heads or tails of the above and ​
require a translation
​.​


​John K Clark​

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Re: AI

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

The voice of reason? Maybe. It's your shooter, your antifa rioters, and the 
facts speak for themselves. 



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From: Brent Meeker 
To: spudboy100 via Everything List 
Sent: Mon, Jun 19, 2017 4:28 pm
Subject: Re: AI


Better put your tinfoil hat back on.  The voices are getting to you.


On 6/19/2017 1:00 PM, spudboy100 via  Everything List wrote:


Ah! I believe we haven'targued for a long time. Here's the deal, on 
dumbness orsmartness, it remains to be seen, as Forest Gump might 
conclude.On the other hand who is dumber, the donald, or the women that 
   lost to him? 

Probably the people that voted for him.


It's your "no nothings," andnow killers, that are storming the country 
and the campuses, notwhite rednecks. 

I'm in favor of no nothings.  The problem is the redneck "knownothings" 
who shoot up Planned Parenthood clinics and Pizza parlorsbased on 
alternative facts.


Antifa is not neutral, butserves the violent interests of the dems. 

What, or who, is antifa?


On talk radio, most are waybeyond this, but do continue your meme, as 
you please. 

Doesn't even parse.  "Way beyond" what?


The kind of governance thedems want is akin to what has been occurring 
in Venezuela underChavez and Maduro. 

One party, strongman rule...that's what the Repugs have brought us. I 
don't know any dems who are for it.


Let's cut to the chase andspeak what happens when Don is impeached and 
so is Pence.(Demgoal). I imagine civil war.   

You imagine a lot of stuff.  Go back on your meds.  

Brent
  
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Re: AI

[Brent Meeker]

Better put your tinfoil hat back on.  The voices are getting to you.

On 6/19/2017 1:00 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Ah! I believe we haven't argued for a long time. Here's the deal, on 
dumbness or smartness, it remains to be seen, as Forest Gump might 
conclude. On the other hand who is dumber, the donald, or the women 
that lost to him? 


Probably the people that voted for him.

It's your "no nothings," and now killers, that are storming the 
country and the campuses, not white rednecks. 


I'm in favor of no nothings.  The problem is the redneck "know nothings" 
who shoot up Planned Parenthood clinics and Pizza parlors based on 
alternative facts.


Antifa is not neutral, but serves the violent interests of the dems. 


What, or who, is antifa?

On talk radio, most are way beyond this, but do continue your meme, as 
you please. 


Doesn't even parse.  "Way beyond" what?

The kind of governance the dems want is akin to what has been 
occurring in Venezuela under Chavez and Maduro. 


One party, strongman rule...that's what the Repugs have brought us. I 
don't know any dems who are for it.


Let's cut to the chase and speak what happens when Don is impeached 
and so is Pence.(Dem goal). I imagine civil war. 


You imagine a lot of stuff.  Go back on your meds.

Brent

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Re: AI

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

A rebuke from a stalinist is no rebuke at all. Comrade. 



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Sent: Sun, Jun 18, 2017 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: AI



On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 spudboy100 via Everything List 
 wrote:




​>
​>>​
 ​
Yeah Obama was terrific at arming with the North Koreans and the Ayatollahs 
with their nuke capabilities (The ayatollahs who Obama wuv'd, do trades with 
the Norks).









​>> ​
​What the hell are you talking about?





 
​> ​
Oh the AI/political comment on Don et all. 



​I know, but I don't speak Redneck ​and was hoping for a translation.




John K Clark 
 









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Re: AI

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Ah! I believe we haven't argued for a long time. Here's the deal, on dumbness 
or smartness, it remains to be seen, as Forest Gump might conclude. On the 
other hand who is dumber, the donald, or the women that lost to him? It's your 
"no nothings," and now killers, that are storming the country and the campuses, 
not white rednecks. Antifa is not neutral, but serves the violent interests of 
the dems. On talk radio, most are way beyond this, but do continue your meme, 
as you please. The kind of governance the dems want is akin to what has been 
occurring in Venezuela under Chavez and Maduro. Let's cut to the chase and 
speak what happens when Don is impeached and so is Pence.(Dem goal). I imagine 
civil war. 


Be well. 





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To: everything-list 
Sent: Sun, Jun 18, 2017 4:58 pm
Subject: Re: AI


Apparently it seems, spudboy is channeling the nutrition feee highly processed 
soundbite sized chunks of invective that passes for strategic analysis on talk 
radio. The reduction of the Art of public discourse to the language and 
intellect of the digital gutter (if such a word as intellect can be used to 
describe this sad facsimile of reasoning)... is a symptom of the vulgarity of 
the times we live in, and in the poverty of our society to think and act with 
maturity.
Sad... really... so sad, a spectacle of nihilistic neo-no-nothingism (these not 
so United States, once actually had a No Nothing political party in the pre 
Civil War 1800s, it's kind of a tradition in these parts... bring this up to 
help clarify the tap root of this political tradition, for our non-American 
list members).


American political discourse, especially in the last few decades has slid far 
down the scale from a place of thoughtfulness and considered reasoning rooted 
in facts to truly Goebbellian levels of testosterone infused, fact free, 
shouting matches and the television enhanced spectacle of mud slinging cage 
fights charaterized by the mindless regurgitation of scripted talking points.


As the Donald himself would tweet so sad!



Chris



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On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 1:22 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List
 wrote:
  
 
Oh the AI/political comment on Don et all.  

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On Sun, Jun 18, 2017  spudboy100 via Everything List 
 wrote:




​> ​
Yeah Obama was terrific at arming with the North Koreans and the Ayatollahs 
with their nuke capabilities (The ayatollahs who Obama wuv'd, do trades with 
the Norks).



​What the hell are you talking about?




John K Clark​
 


 


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Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

[Brent Meeker]

On 6/19/2017 2:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

So back to quantum computation: what I think that QC demonstrates
(independently of it being realised by network models or cluster
states) is that the superposition of states really does mean that the
various states *exist*.


Superposition of states just means you choose a basis for the states 
that did not have the right eigenstates.  "Being in a superpostion" 
is just a coordinate choice.  It's like saying that going from 
Bermuda to London is a superposition of north-traveling and 
east-traveling.


? That resembles a confusion between pure state and mixed state. 


I didn't say anything about mixed states.  I pointed out that any pure 
state can be expressed as a superposition by writing it in basis other 
than its eigenbasis.  This is not unique so which states appear in the 
superposition is matter of choice.  That makes it hard to regard them as 
existing.


I am sure you are aware of the difference so I find this answer very 
weird. It brushes away all the interpretation problem we have of the 
facts (not just the theory). Single photon (or molecule) interference 
would not exist if pure state where not also superposition in the 
rotated base. 


Why would you say that if I fly from Bermuda to London it demonstrates 
that flights from Bermuda to Algiers and Algiers to London exist?


Brent

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Re: A thought on MWI and its alternative(s)

[Bruno Marchal]

On 18 Jun 2017, at 21:17, Brent Meeker wrote:




On 6/18/2017 3:43 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:

No, but it does mean that a quantum computer can have the
computational power of a lot of Turing machines acting in parallel,
and it is normal to ask "why?", and be unsatisfied with a theory  
that

does not answer this question.


I have come across an interesting paper that discusses these  
questions, and
comes to the conclusion that it is problematic to see quantum  
computing as

accessing the computing power of other worlds.

Michael Cuffaro, http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.2514v2
Thanks for the paper, I finally had some time to read it. I also  
write

in reply to Brent, I think we are all talking about the same thing.

First of all: I was too quick in accepting your definition of  
world. I

think this is where our disagreement starts. You define a world
bottom-up, by saying that if two thing can interact, then they belong
to the same world. I would say that this is a good definition for
classical worlds, but it becomes useless when it is not longer clear
what "things" are these that can interact.

I prefer this definition: a world is the set of things that can be
observed. My definition forces one to invite theories of mind into  
the

discussion. This is another thing I was too quick to accept: to talk
about "just physics". When we are discussing interpretations of QM,
it's no longer "just physics". Such a requirement makes the  
discussion

non-sensical.

To be clear, let us consider the double-slit experiment.
Simplistically, under my definition there are three possible worlds:
the two ones where you know which sensor was activated and there is  
no

interference, and the one where you do not know and there is
interference. The knowing/now knowing distinction is key here. The
world-as-what-can-be-observed can supervene on different subsets of
the totality, depending on which degrees of freedom are conserved. If
I can know which sensor was activated, then the world where I'm in is
not compatible with a superposition of states on the electron, and no
interference is observable. This is the fundamental breakdown of
"thingness" that QM brings to the table.

So back to quantum computation: what I think that QC demonstrates
(independently of it being realised by network models or cluster
states) is that the superposition of states really does mean that the
various states *exist*.


Superposition of states just means you choose a basis for the states  
that did not have the right eigenstates.  "Being in a superpostion"  
is just a coordinate choice.  It's like saying that going from  
Bermuda to London is a superposition of north-traveling and east- 
traveling.


? That resembles a confusion between pure state and mixed state. I am  
sure you are aware of the difference so I find this answer very weird.  
It brushes away all the interpretation problem we have of the facts  
(not just the theory). Single photon (or molecule) interference would  
not exist if pure state where not also superposition in the rotated  
base.


Bruno








They are necessarily things, because they
provide a subtract for computation that does not exist otherwise. If
you wanted to deny this, you would have to be able to show me that
your interpretation of QC can be used to implement an equally  
powerful

algorithm in a classical computer. But you cannot do that, cluster
state or not. This is what makes purely probabilistic interpretations
awkward, and I think this is the meat of Deutsch's intuition.

I think that the preferred basis problem operates at a lower level
than what I think is a useful definition of world. It's just a matter
of frame of reference. It's like refuting the idea that the Earth
follows and approximately elliptical orbit around the Sun by placing
the frame of reference in Venus. Both descriptions are valid, but the
first makes it easier to apprehend the actual underlying phenomenon.
An Ptolemy would have said it's a superposition of epicycles. That's  
no reason to reify epicycles.


For me, the underlying phenomenon here is about what mind can
supervene on. Refusing to do this exercise seems absurd, because the
very point of interpreting quantum mechanics is to figure out what is
the reality that the equations describe, taking into account the
reality that we can observe. If we remove the problem of mind from  
the

effort, there is no ground to stand on.
But if you take mind to supervene on the physics then observation  
is just another physical interaction. What about it makes it  
"underlying" or a something to define reality?  As you know, I  
resist the temptation to designate something as "fundamental".   
I'd like to have an explanation of physics in terms of mind or  
computation and vice versa.
But if you take mind to supervene on the physics then observation is  
just another physical interaction. What about it makes it  
"underlying" or a something to define reality?  As you know, I  
resist the