FW: The American Taliban

[Philip Benjamin]

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Subject: RE: The American Taliban

[Philip Benjamin]
All relevant references are given below. Pagan bureaucrats, politicians and 
officials both civil and military are easily made "captives" of pagan 
scientists, philosophers, psychologists, economists etc. all with un-awakened 
consciousness (UC). They claim that "most observers" attribute to 
Non-Conformists "racial and social antagonism".  These dowdy though 
self-esteemed as "quick witted"  WAMP-the-Ingrate will never be specific about 
who these "most observers" are, other than themselves-- self-imposed, biased 
and blinded. [WAMP = Western Acade-Media Pagan(ism), the stealing beneficiaries 
of the Augustinian Trust]. They are dead serious to trivialize multi-trillion 
dollar national debt as easily solvable by minting "trillion dollar" coins. 
These pagans with UC-intellectuals, so called-vainly fantasize that they are at 
one with the rest of the massive world of paganism with UC. The very few chosen 
Marxist pagans with UC of a "Politburo" easily exploits that situation for 
their dictatorial utopia. There are non-conformists everywhere and in all 
cultures (references below), but their numbers are dwindling, mainly by threats 
as well as the offer and promises of freebees from the State-goddess!.

 Marxist pagans with UC first tried to divide England according to 
communist manifesto into bourgeoisie & proletariat. They failed miserably. 
Puritan and Wesleyan Movements have ther roots in German Reformation which is 
anchored in Augustinian Transformation with Awakened consciousness (AC). But 
pagan lawyer Lenin and pagan ex-seminarian Stalin (both with UC) could 
accomplish that dictatorship with the Russians who were mostly steeped in 
Rasputin's occultism (with UC). Today the once Puritan America (with "Two Great 
Awakenings" (both historical & historic) which is steeped in occultism is 
befooled into fragmentations such as "Taliban", Fascist, 'White Trash" and so 
on  by Marxist pagan propaganda through Social Justice, Liberation Theology, 
Critical Race Theory, United Front, Progressivism, Pacifism, trans-speciation 
etc. with the aid of WAMP-the-Ingrate.  An ordinary peaceful protest (a few 
hooligans' inevitable presence notwithstanding) is labelled "insurrection" 
while the Marxist violent burning down of city blocks under Marxist pagan 
elected officials with (UC) are reported "mostly peaceful protests" by the WAMP.
Philip Benjamin
(Non-Conformist)

https://whatsleftinthechurch.blogspot.com/2010/12/john-wesley-karl-marx-and-full-life.html
  Posted by Geoffrey Kruse-Safford
"I find the connection between Marx's discussion of alienation in capitalist 
societies, in many ways, to have an affinity with John Wesley's discussion of 
the necessity for the New Birth. Marx is speaking of a socio-economic condition 
that leaves us strangers to that which most makes us human. Wesley is speaking 
of a spiritual condition that leaves us estranged from God. In both cases, 
there is, indeed, a solution. For Marx, it is a reordering of society so that 
labor, that which makes us most human, is no longer opposed to but rather 
supports a fully human life. For Wesley, the experience of the New Birth, 
acknowledging what God has done for and in us, awakens us to our new life in 
Christ, a new life lived in community with God and our fellow Christians, a 
life lived toward holiness, which Wesley understood as the further work of 
Divine Grace in the community of believers."

   
https://thepostmillennial.com/cnns-jim-acosta-calls-tucker-carlson-gop-leaders-american-taliban
  Tucker-Carlson and GOP leaders are "Sort of like an American Taliban," Acosta 
added in the on-air segment... It is starting to look like a combination of 
theocracy and thugocracy."
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/08/taliban-announces-theyll-institute-sharia-law-lgbtq-people-try-escape-afghanistan/
   "Gay people, a Taliban judge Gul Rahim promised earlier this year, will be 
prosecuted and executed by stoning or pushing a wall on top of them. "The wall 
must be 2.5 to 3 meters high (8 to 10 feet)."

   
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/7/us-academic-conference-dismantling-global-hindutva-hindu-right-wing-grou
   US academic conference on 'Hindutva' targeted by Hindu groups 'Dismantling 
Global Hindutva' ps These are non-Conformist Hindus

 
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Re: NYTimes.com: White House Seeks $65 Billion for ‘Apollo’ Plan to Prepare for Future Pandemics

[John Clark]

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 6:45 PM  wrote:

*> You hold the view that like the popes, scientists are infallible
> axiomatically.*


Thanks for informing me of that, I had absolutely no idea I held that view.


 > Fauci had been “untruthful” about gain-of-function
>
> https://nypost.com/2021/09/07/wuhan-lab-documents-show-fauci-untruthful-about-research-critics/
>

And your authority is the New York post?!  Next time pick a more
respectable source, like "Thrilling Stories Of The Supernatural" or "UFO
Digest" or "Wonder Tales Of The Bermuda Triangle".

John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis

qxx

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RIP Steven Weinberg

[Bruno Marchal]

Steven Weinberg is no more, since recently. I did appreciate very much his 
books on quantum mechanics, and also his introduction to quantum field 
theory.

I have mentioned more than once his work showing that if you delinearise a 
little bit quantum mechanics, not only you cannot make the parallel 
worlds/histories disappearing, but somehow, it makes possible to visit 
those parallel worlds, or, to use an image by Weinberg, to call your 
doppelgänger with a phone.

This provides a quantum and dual way to refute John Clark argument against 
the first person indeterminacy in arithmetic. John argue dans le parallel 
histories in arithmetic allows in principle the doppelgänger to meet, so 
that it is different from the indeterminacy on the superposition. But the 
point is that the indeterminacy calculus cannot change based on such 
counterfactual, unless adding magic to Mechanism, but then Mechanism is 
false by definition. A dual counterexample based on this work by Weinberg 
is that delineairsing a little bit the Schroedinger equation, in such a way 
that the indeterminacy remains unchanged, makes the doppelgänger 
accessible, like with the classical duplication, and yet does not change 
the calculus of indeterminacy different, illustrating once again you need 
to add magic to Mechanism to avoid, like in quantum mechanics, the first 
person indeterminacy.

A more serious difficulty is to make people understand the original paper 
of Turing, Church, Post, which shows (along with Gödel) that the 
arithmetical reality is (more than) Turing complete. This follows from 
understanding arithmetic, or, at a more formal level, by understanding that 
all models of arithmetic have the same initials segment in which addition 
and multiplication stay Turing emulable (which is not the case in the whole 
non standard models. this requires a bit of mathematical logic, which is 
not well taught, when taught at all.

Once you grasp this, even without Mechanism, you can understand that the 
burden of the proof is in the hand of those who add some more axioms to 
arithmetic, like the existence of some "primitive matter" which have to 
justify its role in consciousness selection from arithmetic. In deductive 
theology, it is better to not add any ontological commitment before a 
reason is provided to it. Up to now, observation confirms mechanism. If 
they was one fact in favour of non mechanism, or in favour of something 
more than numbers, I would welcome it, but there are none, as far as I 
know. On the contrary, Everett QM confirms all prediction of classical 
Digital Mechanism, and explains furthermore the qualia and consciousness, 
as notion of knowledge imposed through self-reference and incompleteness.

Bruno

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Re: Consciousness research

[Bruno Marchal]

It is never to late, but I guess they remain in the Aristotelian framework, 
which makes them impossible to take into account the elementary 
consequences of Mechanism in metaphysics. If you can sum up their 
approaches or just tell me their basic hypotheses ... In my university, it 
too time, but eventually there is a course on consciousness, but only the 
"weak problem" is allowed to be researched, which is better than nothing.

Bruno

On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 12:27:03 AM UTC+2 Brent wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q78UL1gYhXI
>
> Four researchers on consciousness who take a operational and scientific 
> approach and have a program to try to test theories of consciousness.
>
> Brent
>

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