Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem

2022-05-24 Thread John Clark 
On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 6:44 PM Lawrence Crowell <
goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *I say that while logic states at least one of these guys is wrong. a
> Bayesian prior or regression analysis would say probability is very close
> to one (100%) that both are wrong.*


*I say that out of all the threads that have been on the Everything List
since I joined it this exercise in dueling nonsense is the one that comes
closest to being absolutely worthless. What a tragic waste of perfectly
good electrons!*

  John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at  Extropolis

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Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem

2022-05-23 Thread Samiya Illias 
Crucifixion 
https://youtu.be/II8_svPcJn0 

> On 24-May-2022, at 3:44 AM, Lawrence Crowell 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well in this debate between Benjamin and  Samiya it makes sense that at 
> least one of them is wrong. They cannot both be right, and they are engaged 
> in one big brouhaha over this. I say that while logic states at least one of 
> these guys is wrong. a Bayesian prior or regression analysis would say 
> probability is very close to one (100%) that both are wrong.
> 
> LC
> 
>> On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 10:32:44 AM UTC-5 medinuclear wrote:
>> [Philip Benjamin] 
>> 
>>Now, the question was “what is the science in all these that you are 
>> referring to? Point out the specifics. Otherwise no need to continue  mere 
>> notions, opinions and dogmas.
>> 
>>  The following “[Al-Quran 41:43,44,45, Translation: Literal 
>> (word-by-word)]” is not what is meant by  Prophecy in the Scriptures of the 
>> Patriarchs, Prophets and the Apostles: “If and when the battle between Truth 
>> (haqq) and Falsehood (baatil) is fought, it will be critical to have the 
>> ability to recognise and side with the Truth (haqq)”. 
>> 
>> No If’s & But’s, only identifiable specifics. What is “Truth” and 
>> “Falsehood”? Nothing specific! Egypt, Assyria, Israel, Judah, Babylon, 
>> Greece, Medo-Persia, [Rome to be], Pilate,  
>> 
>>  Scriptural Example (one among several hundreds):  Luke 2: 1-4. “ In 
>> those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of 
>> the entire Roman world.  (This was the first census that took place while[  
>> Quirinius was governor of Syria.)  And everyone went to their own town to 
>> register. So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to 
>> Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and 
>> line of David.”  About 1000 years before Luke (737 to 696 BC), Micah 5:2 
>> prophesied: “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah [not Zebulun, of Joshua 19:15],  
>> though you are small among the clans[ of Judah, out of you will come for me  
>>one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from 
>> everlasting”.
>> 
>>What is anybody’s hope, if Prophet Mohammad himself has no sure hope: 
>> “Say: 'I am not an innovation among the Messengers, and I know not what 
>> shall be done with me or with you. I only follow what is revealed to me; I 
>> am only a clear warner.' Sura. 46:8-9 Meccan”
>> 
>> Philip Benjamin  
>> 
>> ~
>> 
>>From: everyth...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Samiya Illias  
>> ‘The Quran repeatedly exhorts spending (infaq, zakat, sadaqah) and declares 
>> a war by Allah and His Messenger against those who consume usury (riba). The 
>> Torah and The Gospels also condemn usury.   According to the Quran 4:159, 
>> all People of the Book will believe in Jesus…”
>> 
>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2022 7:07 PM
>> To: everyth...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine 
>> War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The Prophesy 
>> https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-battle.html 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On 20-May-2022, at 9:01 PM, Philip Benjamin  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [Philip Benjamin]
>> 
>> There is no science of any kind in this site: 
>> https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/03/explained-in-detail.html The 
>> author repeatedly affirms what Koran claims for itself. That is not “science 
>> “ is defined or understood. Which science are you referring to/Math, 
>> physics, chemistry, biology?
>> 
>> Not only science, where is the “Prophecy” if any in the Koran? This is a one 
>> man book over a period of two or three decades. Even the Delphi of ancient 
>> pagan Greece had some reliable “prophecies”, but the Greeks attributed them 
>> to spirit beings (demons).  
>> 
>> That is very much unlike from Genesis 3: 15 (Messianic prophecy), to Micah 
>> 5:2 “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Though you are little among the thousands 
>> of Judah, Yet out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be Ruler in 
>> Israel, Whose goings forth are from of old, From everlasting” to Malachi 3:1 
>> (John the Baptist)
>> 
>> “Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: 
>> and the LORD, whom you seek” to Revelation 22:12 “Behold I come suddenly 
>> [imminently]”. That covers over 3,500 years in three differen

Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem

2022-05-23 Thread Lawrence Crowell 
Well in this debate between Benjamin and  Samiya it makes sense that at 
least one of them is wrong. They cannot both be right, and they are engaged 
in one big brouhaha over this. I say that while logic states at least one 
of these guys is wrong. a Bayesian prior or regression analysis would say 
probability is very close to one (100%) that both are wrong.

LC

On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 10:32:44 AM UTC-5 medinuclear wrote:

> [*Philip Benjamin*]  
>
>Now, the question was “*what is the science in all these that you are 
> referring to*? Point out the specifics. Otherwise no need to continue  
> mere notions, opinions and dogmas. 
>
>  The following “[Al-Quran 41:43,44,45, Translation: Literal 
> (word-by-word)]” is not what is meant by  Prophecy in the Scriptures of the 
> Patriarchs, Prophets and the Apostles: “If and when the battle between 
> Truth (haqq) and Falsehood (baatil) is fought, it will be critical to have 
> the ability to recognise and side with the Truth (haqq)”.  
>
> No If’s & But’s, only identifiable specifics. What is “Truth” and 
> “Falsehood”? Nothing specific! Egypt, Assyria, Israel, Judah, Babylon, 
> Greece, Medo-Persia, [Rome to be], Pilate,   
>
>  *Scriptural* *Example (one among** several** hundreds**)*:  *Luke 2: 
> 1-4*. “ In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census 
> should be taken of the entire Roman world.  (This was the first census that 
> took place while[  Quirinius was governor of Syria.)  And everyone went 
> to their own town to register. So Joseph also went up from the town of 
> Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, *because he 
> belonged to the house and line of David.**”  *About 1000 years before* 
> Luke* (737 to 696 BC)*, Micah 5:2 prophesied:* “But you, 
> Bethlehem Ephrathah [*not Zebulun, of Joshua 19:15*],  though you are 
> small among the clans[ of Judah, out of you will come for me one who 
> will be ruler over Israel, *whose origins are from of old, from 
> everlasting*”. 
>
>What is anybody’s hope, if Prophet Mohammad himself has no sure 
> hope: “Say: 'I am not an innovation among the Messengers, *and I know not 
> what shall be done with me or with you*. I only follow what is revealed 
> to me; I am only a clear warner.' Sura. 46:8-9 Meccan” 
>
> *Philip Benjamin*  
>
> ~
>
>*From:* everyth...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Samiya Illias  
> ‘The Quran repeatedly exhorts spending (infaq, zakat, sadaqah) and 
> declares a war by Allah and His Messenger against those who consume usury 
> (riba). The Torah and The Gospels also condemn usury.   According to the 
> Quran 4:159 <http://islamawakened.com/quran/4/159/>, all People of the 
> Book will believe in Jesus…”
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 22, 2022 7:07 PM
> *To:* everyth...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for 
> Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem
>
>  
> The Prophesy  
>
> https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-battle.html 
> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsignsandscience.blogspot.com%2F2016%2F06%2Fthe-battle.html=05%7C01%7C%7Cddfd572697ba43f847ce08da3c503362%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637888612407717214%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=Ql%2BEqABxsNidEoENa5QyFlSEx6N%2FZYsACRcdiiiW1Rw%3D=0>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On 20-May-2022, at 9:01 PM, Philip Benjamin  wrote:
>
>  
>
> [*Philip Benjamin*]
>
> There is no science of any kind in this site: 
> https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/03/explained-in-detail.html 
> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsignsandscience.blogspot.com%2F2015%2F03%2Fexplained-in-detail.html=05%7C01%7C%7Cddfd572697ba43f847ce08da3c503362%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637888612407717214%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=3JWjfvUFbWMB24CSgW%2Bdx4VxbGNEJ8NrYla9CKMb5%2FQ%3D=0>
>  
> The author repeatedly affirms what Koran claims for itself. That is not 
> “science “ is defined or understood. Which science are you referring 
> to/Math, physics, chemistry, biology? 
>
> Not only science, where is the “Prophecy” if any in the Koran? This is a 
> one man book over a period of two or three decades. Even the Delphi of 
> ancient pagan Greece had some reliable “prophecies”, but the Greeks 
> attributed them to spirit beings (demons).  
>
> That is very much unlike from *Genesis 3: 15* (Messianic prophecy), to 
> *Micah* *5:2* “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Though you are little among

RE: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem

2022-05-23 Thread Philip Benjamin 
[Philip Benjamin]
   Now, the question was “what is the science in all these that you are 
referring to? Point out the specifics. Otherwise no need to continue  mere 
notions, opinions and dogmas.
 The following “[Al-Quran 41:43,44,45, Translation: Literal 
(word-by-word)]” is not what is meant by  Prophecy in the Scriptures of the 
Patriarchs, Prophets and the Apostles: “If and when the battle between Truth 
(haqq) and Falsehood (baatil) is fought, it will be critical to have the 
ability to recognise and side with the Truth (haqq)”.
No If’s & But’s, only identifiable specifics. What is “Truth” and 
“Falsehood”? Nothing specific! Egypt, Assyria, Israel, Judah, Babylon, Greece, 
Medo-Persia, [Rome to be], Pilate,
 Scriptural Example (one among several hundreds):  Luke 2: 1-4. “ In those 
days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the 
entire Roman world.  (This was the first census that took place while[  
Quirinius was governor of Syria.)  And everyone went to their own town to 
register. So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, 
to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of 
David.”  About 1000 years before Luke (737 to 696 BC), Micah 5:2 prophesied: 
“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah [not Zebulun, of Joshua 19:15],  though you are 
small among the clans[ of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will 
be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from everlasting”.
   What is anybody’s hope, if Prophet Mohammad himself has no sure hope: 
“Say: 'I am not an innovation among the Messengers, and I know not what shall 
be done with me or with you. I only follow what is revealed to me; I am only a 
clear warner.' Sura. 46:8-9 Meccan”
Philip Benjamin
~
   From: 
everything-list@googlegroups.com<mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Samiya Illias
‘The Quran repeatedly exhorts spending (infaq, zakat, sadaqah) and declares a 
war by Allah and His Messenger against those who consume usury (riba). The 
Torah and The Gospels also condemn usury.   According to the Quran 
4:159<http://islamawakened.com/quran/4/159/>, all People of the Book will 
believe in Jesus…”
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2022 7:07 PM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com<mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine 
War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem

The Prophesy
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-battle.html<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsignsandscience.blogspot.com%2F2016%2F06%2Fthe-battle.html=05%7C01%7C%7Cddfd572697ba43f847ce08da3c503362%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637888612407717214%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=Ql%2BEqABxsNidEoENa5QyFlSEx6N%2FZYsACRcdiiiW1Rw%3D=0>


On 20-May-2022, at 9:01 PM, Philip Benjamin 
mailto:medinucl...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

[Philip Benjamin]
There is no science of any kind in this site: 
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/03/explained-in-detail.html<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsignsandscience.blogspot.com%2F2015%2F03%2Fexplained-in-detail.html=05%7C01%7C%7Cddfd572697ba43f847ce08da3c503362%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637888612407717214%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=3JWjfvUFbWMB24CSgW%2Bdx4VxbGNEJ8NrYla9CKMb5%2FQ%3D=0>
 The author repeatedly affirms what Koran claims for itself. That is not 
“science “ is defined or understood. Which science are you referring to/Math, 
physics, chemistry, biology?
Not only science, where is the “Prophecy” if any in the Koran? This is a one 
man book over a period of two or three decades. Even the Delphi of ancient 
pagan Greece had some reliable “prophecies”, but the Greeks attributed them to 
spirit beings (demons).
That is very much unlike from Genesis 3: 15 (Messianic prophecy), to Micah 5:2 
“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Though you are little among the thousands of 
Judah, Yet out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be Ruler in Israel, 
Whose goings forth are from of old, From everlasting” to Malachi 3:1 (John the 
Baptist)
“Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and 
the LORD, whom you seek” to Revelation 22:12 “Behold I come suddenly 
[imminently]”. That covers over 3,500 years in three different continents by 
over 40 different authors (prophets) of diverse backgrounds such as princes, 
priests, philosophers, poets, peasants, businessmen, farmers, fishermen, males 
& females etc.
 Instead of quoting sites, point out specific instances of scientific 
statements, or prophetic utterances. Are you claiming that these jinn

RE: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem

2022-05-23 Thread Philip Benjamin 
[Philip Benjamin]
 The following “[Al-Quran 41:43,44,45, Translation: Literal (word-by-word)]” is 
not what is meant by  Prophecy in the Scriptures of the Patriarchs, Prophets 
and the Apostles: “If and when the battle between Truth (haqq) and Falsehood 
(baatil) is fought, it will be critical to have the ability to recognise and 
side with the Truth (haqq)”.
No If’s & But’s, only identifiable specifics. What is “Truth” and 
“Falsehood”? Nothing specific! Egypt, Assyria, Israel, Judah, Babylon, Greece, 
Medo-Persia, [Rome to be], Pilate,
 Now, the question is “what is the science in all these that you are 
referring to? Point out the specifics. Otherwise no need to continue  mere 
“notions”, opinions and dogmas.
 Example (one among hundreds):  Luke 2: 1-4. “ In those days Caesar 
Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman 
world.  (This was the first census that took place while[  Quirinius was 
governor of Syria.)  And everyone went to their own town to register. So Joseph 
also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the 
town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David.”  “But you, 
Bethlehem Ephrathah [not Zebulun],
though you are small among the 
clans[b<https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=micah%205=NIV#fen-NIV-22636b>]
 of Judah,
out of you will come for me
one who will be ruler over Israel,
whose origins are from of old,
from ancient times.”
   What is anybody’s hope, if Prophet Mohammad himself has no sure hope: 
“Say: 'I am not an innovation among the Messengers, and I know not what shall 
be done with me or with you. I only follow what is revealed to me; I am only a 
clear warner.' Sura. 46:8-9 Meccan”

‘The Quran repeatedly exhorts spending (infaq, zakat, sadaqah) and declares a 
war by Allah and His Messenger against those who consume usury (riba). The 
Torah and The Gospels also condemn usury.   According to the Quran 
4:159<http://islamawakened.com/quran/4/159/>, all People of the Book will 
believe in Jesus…”
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Samiya Illias
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2022 7:07 PM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine 
War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem

The Prophesy
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-battle.html<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsignsandscience.blogspot.com%2F2016%2F06%2Fthe-battle.html=05%7C01%7C%7Cddfd572697ba43f847ce08da3c503362%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637888612407717214%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=Ql%2BEqABxsNidEoENa5QyFlSEx6N%2FZYsACRcdiiiW1Rw%3D=0>



On 20-May-2022, at 9:01 PM, Philip Benjamin 
mailto:medinucl...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

[Philip Benjamin]
There is no science of any kind in this site: 
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/03/explained-in-detail.html<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsignsandscience.blogspot.com%2F2015%2F03%2Fexplained-in-detail.html=05%7C01%7C%7Cddfd572697ba43f847ce08da3c503362%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637888612407717214%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=3JWjfvUFbWMB24CSgW%2Bdx4VxbGNEJ8NrYla9CKMb5%2FQ%3D=0>
 The author repeatedly affirms what Koran claims for itself. That is not 
“science “ is defined or understood. Which science are you referring to/Math, 
physics, chemistry, biology?
Not only science, where is the “Prophecy” if any in the Koran? This is a one 
man book over a period of two or three decades. Even the Delphi of ancient 
pagan Greece had some reliable “prophecies”, but the Greeks attributed them to 
spirit beings (demons).
That is very much unlike from Genesis 3: 15 (Messianic prophecy), to Micah 5:2 
“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Though you are little among the thousands of 
Judah, Yet out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be Ruler in Israel, 
Whose goings forth are from of old, From everlasting” to Malachi 3:1 (John the 
Baptist)
“Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and 
the LORD, whom you seek” to Revelation 22:12 “Behold I come suddenly 
[imminently]”. That covers over 3,500 years in three different continents by 
over 40 different authors (prophets) of diverse backgrounds such as princes, 
priests, philosophers, poets, peasants, businessmen, farmers, fishermen, males 
& females etc.
 Instead of quoting sites, point out specific instances of scientific 
statements, or prophetic utterances. Are you claiming that these jinn and Iblis 
or spirit beingsare made of “invisible matter”. Stay with science.
Philip Benjamin

From: everything-list@googlegroups.com<mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:everything-list@googleg

Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem

2022-05-22 Thread Samiya Illias 
The Prophesy 
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-battle.html 


> On 20-May-2022, at 9:01 PM, Philip Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> 
> [Philip Benjamin]
> There is no science of any kind in this site: 
> https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/03/explained-in-detail.html The 
> author repeatedly affirms what Koran claims for itself. That is not “science 
> “ is defined or understood. Which science are you referring to/Math, physics, 
> chemistry, biology?
> Not only science, where is the “Prophecy” if any in the Koran? This is a one 
> man book over a period of two or three decades. Even the Delphi of ancient 
> pagan Greece had some reliable “prophecies”, but the Greeks attributed them 
> to spirit beings (demons).  
> That is very much unlike from Genesis 3: 15 (Messianic prophecy), to Micah 
> 5:2 “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Though you are little among the thousands 
> of Judah, Yet out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be Ruler in 
> Israel, Whose goings forth are from of old, From everlasting” to Malachi 3:1 
> (John the Baptist)
> “Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: 
> and the LORD, whom you seek” to Revelation 22:12 “Behold I come suddenly 
> [imminently]”. That covers over 3,500 years in three different continents by 
> over 40 different authors (prophets) of diverse backgrounds such as princes, 
> priests, philosophers, poets, peasants, businessmen, farmers, fishermen, 
> males & females etc.
>  Instead of quoting sites, point out specific instances of scientific 
> statements, or prophetic utterances. Are you claiming that these jinn and 
> Iblis or spirit beingsare made of “invisible matter”. Stay with science.
> Philip Benjamin
>  
> From: everything-list@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Samiya Illias
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 8:38 PM
> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine 
> War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On 19-May-2022, at 7:45 PM, Philip Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> 
> [Philip Benjamin]
> None of these sites quoted for Koran defense answers the basic questions:  
> 1. What “science” if any is involved here? 
>  
> Explained in Detail 
> https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/03/explained-in-detail.html 
> 
> 
> 2. Who gives what authority to whom, how, where and why?  
> 3.  How is Iblis or jinn or djinn not the source of Mohammod’s inspiration 
> (or is it hallucination?4.  What has any of these to do with human 
> consciousness or the Two Great Awakenings thereof which were both historical 
> and historic in America? Pagan Stalin unconsciously coined the term “American 
> Exceptionalism” for that.
> 5. How in the world can Jinn etc. being invisible be brought into any 
> scientific discussion at all?
>  
> Snake || Jinn 
> https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2018/08/snake-jinn.html 
>  
> The Creation & Emergence of Species 
> https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2018/08/the-creation-emergence-of-species.html
>  
>  
> 
> 
> What I have alluded to was “self-consciousness” where self as a real and 
> invisible  entity for science must necessarily be made of and from plausibly 
> bio dark-matter and its chemistry. The  resonant dark/light twins cocreated 
> at the moment of conception may be a basis for “self-awareness”. Resonance is 
> rudimentary recognition. 
>  
> DRAFT: Nafs 
> https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2020/06/draft-all-about-nafs.html 
>  
> Human: Body or Soul? 
> https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2017/05/human-body-or-soul.html 
>  
> Wronging the Nafs 
> https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2017/02/wronging-self.html 
>  
> 
> 
>  I am cautiously interested ONLY in such discussions. Your references 
> have no relevance to that.  
> Philip Benjamin
>   
> From: everything-list@googlegroups.com  On 
> Be half Of Samiya Illias
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 8:19 PM
> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine 
> War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem
>  
> Back to the Future: why the Old Testament is angrier of the three scriptures! 
> https://islam-qna.blogspot.com/2016/02/back-to-future-why-old-testament-is.html?m=1
>  
>  
> The Devils among The Angels & The Khilafat of Adam 
> https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2019/04/the-devils-among-angels-khilafat-of-adam.html
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On 18-May-2022, at 7:08 PM, Philip Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> 
> [Philip Benjamin]
>Who gives what authority to whom, how, where and why?  
> Philip Benjamin
>  
> From: everything-l

RE: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem

2022-05-20 Thread Philip Benjamin 
[Philip Benjamin]
There is no science of any kind in this site: 
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/03/explained-in-detail.html The 
author repeatedly affirms what Koran claims for itself. That is not “science “ 
is defined or understood. Which science are you referring to/Math, physics, 
chemistry, biology?
Not only science, where is the “Prophecy” if any in the Koran? This is a one 
man book over a period of two or three decades. Even the Delphi of ancient 
pagan Greece had some reliable “prophecies”, but the Greeks attributed them to 
spirit beings (demons).
That is very much unlike from Genesis 3: 15 (Messianic prophecy), to Micah 5:2 
“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Though you are little among the thousands of 
Judah, Yet out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be Ruler in Israel, 
Whose goings forth are from of old, From everlasting” to Malachi 3:1 (John the 
Baptist)
“Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and 
the LORD, whom you seek” to Revelation 22:12 “Behold I come suddenly 
[imminently]”. That covers over 3,500 years in three different continents by 
over 40 different authors (prophets) of diverse backgrounds such as princes, 
priests, philosophers, poets, peasants, businessmen, farmers, fishermen, males 
& females etc.
 Instead of quoting sites, point out specific instances of scientific 
statements, or prophetic utterances. Are you claiming that these jinn and Iblis 
or spirit beingsare made of “invisible matter”. Stay with science.
Philip Benjamin

From: everything-list@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Samiya Illias
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 8:38 PM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine 
War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem




On 19-May-2022, at 7:45 PM, Philip Benjamin 
mailto:medinucl...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

[Philip Benjamin]
None of these sites quoted for Koran defense answers the basic questions:
1. What “science” if any is involved here?

Explained in Detail
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/03/explained-in-detail.html<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsignsandscience.blogspot.com%2F2015%2F03%2Fexplained-in-detail.html=05%7C01%7C%7Cd56c71bd34fe4c06dfbd08da3a015491%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637886074648881039%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=OEIXegicg96OwfrokKL873Anvt%2BaMm7qFD0CRvR59gc%3D=0>


2. Who gives what authority to whom, how, where and why?
3.  How is Iblis or jinn or djinn not the source of Mohammod’s inspiration (or 
is it hallucination?4.  What has any of these to do with human consciousness or 
the Two Great Awakenings thereof which were both historical and historic in 
America? Pagan Stalin unconsciously coined the term “American Exceptionalism” 
for that.
5. How in the world can Jinn etc. being invisible be brought into any 
scientific discussion at all?

Snake || Jinn
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2018/08/snake-jinn.html<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsignsandscience.blogspot.com%2F2018%2F08%2Fsnake-jinn.html=05%7C01%7C%7Cd56c71bd34fe4c06dfbd08da3a015491%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637886074648881039%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=t2IBTvAaTuuRT46Um9WpeOkit2F02NS0L8L%2FLVCaCmw%3D=0>

The Creation & Emergence of Species
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2018/08/the-creation-emergence-of-species.html<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsignsandscience.blogspot.com%2F2018%2F08%2Fthe-creation-emergence-of-species.html=05%7C01%7C%7Cd56c71bd34fe4c06dfbd08da3a015491%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637886074648881039%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uISb1Z%2Bk28LZwEY3Y1u%2FKPHMyEyKVkCCvYvsgmjoOmM%3D=0>



What I have alluded to was “self-consciousness” where self as a real and 
invisible  entity for science must necessarily be made of and from plausibly 
bio dark-matter and its chemistry. The  resonant dark/light twins cocreated at 
the moment of conception may be a basis for “self-awareness”. Resonance is 
rudimentary recognition.

DRAFT: Nafs
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2020/06/draft-all-about-nafs.html<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsignsandscience.blogspot.com%2F2020%2F06%2Fdraft-all-about-nafs.html=05%7C01%7C%7Cd56c71bd34fe4c06dfbd08da3a015491%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637886074648881039%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=X%2Bn2Qu%2FCk3B%2BWyg%2FZbACh%2FiXzFpI2HE%2ByYAn%2F8SfR8o%3D=0>

Human: Body or Soul?
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2017/05/human-body-or-soul.html<https://na

Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem

2022-05-19 Thread Samiya Illias 


> On 19-May-2022, at 7:45 PM, Philip Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> 
> [Philip Benjamin]
> None of these sites quoted for Koran defense answers the basic questions:  
> 1. What “science” if any is involved here? 

Explained in Detail 
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/03/explained-in-detail.html 

> 2. Who gives what authority to whom, how, where and why?  
> 3.  How is Iblis or jinn or djinn not the source of Mohammod’s inspiration 
> (or is it hallucination?4.  What has any of these to do with human 
> consciousness or the Two Great Awakenings thereof which were both historical 
> and historic in America? Pagan Stalin unconsciously coined the term “American 
> Exceptionalism” for that.
> 5. How in the world can Jinn etc. being invisible be brought into any 
> scientific discussion at all?

Snake || Jinn 
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2018/08/snake-jinn.html 

The Creation & Emergence of Species 
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2018/08/the-creation-emergence-of-species.html
 


> What I have alluded to was “self-consciousness” where self as a real and 
> invisible  entity for science must necessarily be made of and from plausibly 
> bio dark-matter and its chemistry. The  resonant dark/light twins cocreated 
> at the moment of conception may be a basis for “self-awareness”. Resonance is 
> rudimentary recognition. 

DRAFT: Nafs 
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2020/06/draft-all-about-nafs.html 

Human: Body or Soul? 
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2017/05/human-body-or-soul.html 

Wronging the Nafs 
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2017/02/wronging-self.html 


>  I am cautiously interested ONLY in such discussions. Your references 
> have no relevance to that.  
> Philip Benjamin
>   
> From: everything-list@googlegroups.com  On 
> Be half Of Samiya Illias
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 8:19 PM
> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine 
> War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem
>  
> Back to the Future: why the Old Testament is angrier of the three scriptures! 
> https://islam-qna.blogspot.com/2016/02/back-to-future-why-old-testament-is.html?m=1
>  
>  
> The Devils among The Angels & The Khilafat of Adam 
> https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2019/04/the-devils-among-angels-khilafat-of-adam.html
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On 18-May-2022, at 7:08 PM, Philip Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> 
> [Philip Benjamin]
>Who gives what authority to whom, how, where and why?  
> Philip Benjamin
>  
> From: everything-list@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Samiya Illias
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2022 1:52 PM
> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine 
> War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem
>  
> Permission to Fight against Unjust Regimes 
> http://expeditionthink.blogspot.com/2018/07/permission-to-fight-against-unjust.html
>  
>  
> 
> general_the...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Consciousness-Online] RE: 
> Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem
>  
> Poem EU Ukraine. Modified 5-17-22
> Philip Benjamin   
> Ukraine! Uber-unity’s ubiquity: unique, undaunted, undulant
> Kremlin’s knights, Kirillian kooky kith, kindled Kyiv kinship   
> Rus reprobates, raving rapscallions, ruthless rowdy rampaging 
> Awake! Ah, arise against all anarchist authoritarian apoplectics! 
> Iniquity is incandescent, impish, infantile, invidious, imbecilic
> Nincompoops! Nimrod nuisance, nihilistic narcissistic nastiness  
> Eureka! Encouraging encounter end, eschatological, eh EUkraine
>  
> Philip Benjamin  Modified 5-17-22  EUkraine = EU Ukraine
>  
> From: 'Rosemary Rock-Evans' via Consciousness-Online 
>  
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: 
> Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem
> Everybody in power thinks they know best, don't they Philip?
>  
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RE: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem

2022-05-19 Thread Philip Benjamin 
[Philip Benjamin]
None of these sites quoted for Koran defense answers the basic questions:
1. What “science” if any is involved here?
2. Who gives what authority to whom, how, where and why?
3.  How is Iblis or jinn or djinn not the source of Mohammod’s inspiration (or 
is it hallucination?4.  What has any of these to do with human consciousness or 
the Two Great Awakenings thereof which were both historical and historic in 
America? Pagan Stalin unconsciously coined the term “American Exceptionalism” 
for that.
5. How in the world can Jinn etc. being invisible be brought into any 
scientific discussion at all?
What I have alluded to was “self-consciousness” where self as a real and 
invisible  entity for science must necessarily be made of and from plausibly 
bio dark-matter and its chemistry. The  resonant dark/light twins cocreated at 
the moment of conception may be a basis for “self-awareness”. Resonance is 
rudimentary recognition.
 I am cautiously interested ONLY in such discussions. Your references have 
no relevance to that.
Philip Benjamin

From: everything-list@googlegroups.com  On Be 
half Of Samiya Illias
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 8:19 PM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine 
War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem

Back to the Future: why the Old Testament is angrier of the three scriptures!
https://islam-qna.blogspot.com/2016/02/back-to-future-why-old-testament-is.html?m=1<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fislam-qna.blogspot.com%2F2016%2F02%2Fback-to-future-why-old-testament-is.html%3Fm%3D1=05%7C01%7C%7Cc627273e14f84bff019808da39359823%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637885199591487406%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=v01MwWNDfflVdZAnOAO9%2BroSi%2BEkqnJXpVPesDap1u8%3D=0>

The Devils among The Angels & The Khilafat of Adam
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2019/04/the-devils-among-angels-khilafat-of-adam.html<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsignsandscience.blogspot.com%2F2019%2F04%2Fthe-devils-among-angels-khilafat-of-adam.html=05%7C01%7C%7Cc627273e14f84bff019808da39359823%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637885199591487406%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=kkolV2zEla2TjzCLqTurgU6GbqHkglJt9vQkAFWbZm8%3D=0>



On 18-May-2022, at 7:08 PM, Philip Benjamin 
mailto:medinucl...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

[Philip Benjamin]
   Who gives what authority to whom, how, where and why?
Philip Benjamin

From: everything-list@googlegroups.com<mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Samiya Illias
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2022 1:52 PM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com<mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine 
War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem

Permission to Fight against Unjust Regimes
http://expeditionthink.blogspot.com/2018/07/permission-to-fight-against-unjust.html<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fexpeditionthink.blogspot.com%2F2018%2F07%2Fpermission-to-fight-against-unjust.html=05%7C01%7C%7Cc627273e14f84bff019808da39359823%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637885199591487406%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=wNmAmrVX9Vo81Liq81VjH%2FkZ9tM3I0XjN5f8WebZsdA%3D=0>

general_the...@googlegroups.com<mailto:general_the...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine 
War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem

Poem EU Ukraine. Modified 5-17-22
Philip Benjamin
Ukraine! Uber-unity’s ubiquity: unique, undaunted, undulant
Kremlin’s knights, Kirillian kooky kith, kindled Kyiv kinship
Rus reprobates, raving rapscallions, ruthless rowdy rampaging
Awake! Ah, arise against all anarchist authoritarian apoplectics!
Iniquity is incandescent, impish, infantile, invidious, imbecilic
Nincompoops! Nimrod nuisance, nihilistic narcissistic nastiness
Eureka! Encouraging encounter end, eschatological, eh EUkraine

Philip Benjamin  Modified 5-17-22  EUkraine = EU Ukraine

From: 'Rosemary Rock-Evans' via Consciousness-Online 
mailto:general_the...@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: 
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Everybody in power thinks they know best, don't they Philip?


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Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem

2022-05-18 Thread Samiya Illias 
Back to the Future: why the Old Testament is angrier of the three scriptures! 
https://islam-qna.blogspot.com/2016/02/back-to-future-why-old-testament-is.html?m=1
 

The Devils among The Angels & The Khilafat of Adam 
https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2019/04/the-devils-among-angels-khilafat-of-adam.html
 


> On 18-May-2022, at 7:08 PM, Philip Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> 
> [Philip Benjamin]
>Who gives what authority to whom, how, where and why?  
> Philip Benjamin
>  
> From: everything-list@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Samiya Illias
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2022 1:52 PM
> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine 
> War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem
>  
> Permission to Fight against Unjust Regimes 
> http://expeditionthink.blogspot.com/2018/07/permission-to-fight-against-unjust.html
>  
> 
> 
> On 17-May-2022, at 7:13 PM, Philip Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> 
> general_the...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Consciousness-Online] RE: 
> Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem
>  
> Poem EU Ukraine. Modified 5-17-22
> Philip Benjamin   
> Ukraine! Uber-unity’s ubiquity: unique, undaunted, undulant
> Kremlin’s knights, Kirillian kooky kith, kindled Kyiv kinship   
> Rus reprobates, raving rapscallions, ruthless rowdy rampaging 
> Awake! Ah, arise against all anarchist authoritarian apoplectics! 
> Iniquity is incandescent, impish, infantile, invidious, imbecilic
> Nincompoops! Nimrod nuisance, nihilistic narcissistic nastiness  
> Eureka! Encouraging encounter end, eschatological, eh EUkraine
>  
> Philip BenjaminModified 5-17-22  EUkraine = EU Ukraine
>  
> From: 'Rosemary Rock-Evans' via Consciousness-Online 
>  
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: 
> Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem
> Everybody in power thinks they know best, don't they Philip?
>  
> 
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RE: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem

2022-05-18 Thread Philip Benjamin 
[Philip Benjamin]
   Who gives what authority to whom, how, where and why?
Philip Benjamin

From: everything-list@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Samiya Illias
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2022 1:52 PM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine 
War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem

Permission to Fight against Unjust Regimes
http://expeditionthink.blogspot.com/2018/07/permission-to-fight-against-unjust.html<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fexpeditionthink.blogspot.com%2F2018%2F07%2Fpermission-to-fight-against-unjust.html=05%7C01%7C%7C996433fd72b447fa419d08da38364acf%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637884103089433003%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=AIiuzL850sM%2FSqTH7iMBBP%2BxxoxUYJq2plRr%2BgvPLLA%3D=0>


On 17-May-2022, at 7:13 PM, Philip Benjamin 
mailto:medinucl...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

general_the...@googlegroups.com<mailto:general_the...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine 
War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem

Poem EU Ukraine. Modified 5-17-22
Philip Benjamin
Ukraine! Uber-unity’s ubiquity: unique, undaunted, undulant
Kremlin’s knights, Kirillian kooky kith, kindled Kyiv kinship
Rus reprobates, raving rapscallions, ruthless rowdy rampaging
Awake! Ah, arise against all anarchist authoritarian apoplectics!
Iniquity is incandescent, impish, infantile, invidious, imbecilic
Nincompoops! Nimrod nuisance, nihilistic narcissistic nastiness
Eureka! Encouraging encounter end, eschatological, eh EUkraine

Philip BenjaminModified 5-17-22  EUkraine = EU Ukraine

From: 'Rosemary Rock-Evans' via Consciousness-Online 
mailto:general_the...@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: 
Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem
Everybody in power thinks they know best, don't they Philip?


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Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem

2022-05-17 Thread Samiya Illias 
Permission to Fight against Unjust Regimes 
http://expeditionthink.blogspot.com/2018/07/permission-to-fight-against-unjust.html
 

> On 17-May-2022, at 7:13 PM, Philip Benjamin  wrote:
> 
> 
> general_the...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Consciousness-Online] RE: 
> Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem
>  
> Poem EU Ukraine. Modified 5-17-22
> Philip Benjamin   
> Ukraine! Uber-unity’s ubiquity: unique, undaunted, undulant
> Kremlin’s knights, Kirillian kooky kith, kindled Kyiv kinship   
> Rus reprobates, raving rapscallions, ruthless rowdy rampaging 
> Awake! Ah, arise against all anarchist authoritarian apoplectics! 
> Iniquity is incandescent, impish, infantile, invidious, imbecilic
> Nincompoops! Nimrod nuisance, nihilistic narcissistic nastiness  
> Eureka! Encouraging encounter end, eschatological, eh EUkraine
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> Philip BenjaminModified 5-17-22  EUkraine = EU Ukraine
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> From: 'Rosemary Rock-Evans' via Consciousness-Online 
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> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2022 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Consciousness-Online] RE: 
> Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened Consciousness Problem
> Everybody in power thinks they know best, don't they Philip?
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> Meanwhile millions of Ukrainian women and children die or are left without 
> homes, and their husbands die in the conflict and great swathes of young 
> Russians also die, fired up by propaganda, into an aggressive mindless mob - 
> why?
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> And Serge and I try to keep going, but each time they attack him, my eyes get 
> worse with the lingering effects of the shingles that never went away. I am 
> now blind in one eye and the other is slowly going, and I can safely say 
> without fear of contradiction that the pain is excruciating.
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> So Serge suffers, and I suffer because Serge suffers, because I care about 
> him and get very very upset when he is bombed - not because of the videos - 
> but because I love him. The videos are a hobby for me. No one takes any 
> notice of them, they like them, but they don't have any effect. They provide 
> Serge and I with a means of sharing ideas and being in contact.
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> I don't know what games are being played by those in power, but those of us 
> without power suffer, as those in power don't. I can't imagine for one moment 
> that the seizure of an oligarch's yacht will make a blind bit of difference 
> to him, but it might for the yacht's staff.
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> There are other ways of achieving whatever it is the powerful are trying to 
> achieve but killing innocent people is not the way. And who says it would 
> improve things anyway?
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> -- Original Message --
> From: "Philip Benjamin" 
> To: "everything-list@googlegroups.com" 
> Cc: "general_the...@googlegroups.com" 
> Sent: Monday, 16 May, 22 At 18:59
> Subject: [Consciousness-Online] RE: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: 
> An Unawakened Consciousness Problem
> 
> Poem Ukraine. Philip Benjamin 5-10-22
> Ukraine! Uber-unity’s ubiquity: unique, undaunted, undulant
> Kremlin’s knights, Kirillian kooky kith, kindled Kyiv kinship
> Rus reprobates, raving rapscallions, ruthless rowdy rampaging
> Authoritarian apoplectics! Aggravated assaults abounding, alas
> Iniquity is incandescent, impish, infantile, invidious, imbecilic
> Nincompoops! Nimrod nuisance, nihilistic narcissistic nastiness
> Evidentially evil embodiment, eschatologically ending encounter
> Philip Benjamin
> From: everything-list@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Samiya Illias
> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2022 8:57 PM
> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
> Cc: general_the...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Unspoken Reasons for Russio-Ukraine War: An Unawakened 
> Consciousness Problem
> Iron Age
> https://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2017/10/iron-age.html .
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