Hi Stephen P. King
God is not in time or space and so knows all of eternity and all actions.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/10/2012
Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function.
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From: Stephen P. King
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Time: 2012-09-09, 13:05:30
Subject: Re: Where do life's choices come from ?
On 9/9/2012 6:20 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Jason Resch
Where do the choices come from ?
Seemingly from each individual monad.
But these choices, at least in Leibniz's universe,
have already been decided in the pre-established harmony.
Dear Roger,
Could you explain to us in detail how there is a state of affairs that has
already been decided in the pre-established harmony How can something be
decided if that the action required to make the decision cannot occur? As I
have posted previously, the concept of a PEH requires the equivalent to
computing a solution to an NP-hard problem in order to be said to be available
for such things as what we see in your statement here. One cannot have a
solution to a problem before one actually finds it.
Since these choices have to be harmonious with the rest of
the universe, in some sense they would be of limited freedom
overall, although more than one solution might be possible
to maintain harmony.
Yes, there are infinitely many possible solutions. To discover which is
the best we must compare them all to each other with one single standard of
measure.
Perhaps one solution would be optimal,
i don't know. The choice would at the same time appear
to be entirely free to the individual.
Choice exists simply because there is no a priori measurement of the
objects that the individual is considering. Objects are not fixed and
determined ab initio, they cannot be!
Probability theory might have a better answer than I have
provided. This suggest that perhaps QM could answer the question
Another solution might simply be the greatest
good for the greatest number.
I agree, but only one quality or quantity can be greatest in that
condition. There cannot be multiple greatest goods for many. Consider the
distribution of 1 pound of bread to 100 people. To be fair, each will only get
1/100 of a pound. This entire discussion is laboring under an error; the error
of thinking that resources are fixed from the beginning. It is a naive view of
the world that assume that the world is made up of fixed quantities of
substances that can be distributed equally to all.
The world does not work that way. Resources are products that result from
processes, they are not fixes substances. If we need more of a product, we must
increase the processes that generate them. It we need less of something,
decrease the production. We cannot think in terms of static models to
understand this and failure to use dynamic modeling is the most common sourse
of problems in our world.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/9/2012
Leibniz would say, If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function.
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Onward!
Stephen
http://webpages.charter.net/stephenk1/Outlaw/Outlaw.html
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