Re: [Evolution] Affecting Evolution from the outside

2002-01-29 Thread daner964

> I'm using 'fetchmail' independently of evolution to feed
> /var/spool/mail/. You can automatically start and stop
> fetchmail using your ppp up/down scripts. I would think that at that
> point, evolution could browse your local mail file with no difficulty.
> Fetchmail is pretty simple to set up.

Hmmm... Well, this seems to solve half of the problem. The other half is
that when I've wrote a mail and press the send button I want the mail to
be sent at once if my Internet connection is active and otherwise be put
in the outgoing folder. The only way to achieve this seems to be by
using the Evo online/offline state.

I think the ultimate behaviour would be like this: When I push send on a
mail it would try to send it at once using my smtp server and if that
fails just silently put it in my outgoing folder instead. The same would
be nice for getting mail: Every tenth minute (or whatever I set in my
settings) when Evolution checks my pop3 account, then if it can't reach
it (which would probobly be because I'm not connected to Internet) it
would just silently let it be. Maybe a setting for this?

I would fix it myself if only I had the time...

/Daniel


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Re: [Evolution] i dont want to read html mail

2002-01-29 Thread Xavier Bestel

le mar 29-01-2002 à 14:23, Kenneth MacDonald a écrit :
> > "Xavier" == Xavier Bestel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Xavier> le mar 29-01-2002 à 00:00, Zot O'Connor a écrit :
> >> This would be a nice option.  I have a very high res screen and
> >> often windows' based HTML generated email is way too small.
> >> being able to view "Plain" with an HTML button would be great.
> >> Also it would improve security (no javascript attacks, etc.).
> 
> Xavier> Here too, HTML mail is always too small to read. And if I
> Xavier> adjust the font size in gtkhtml, then other things in
> Xavier> gtkhtml (and html mail composing) is too big.
> 
> Mozilla has a nice feature to use ^+ and ^- to increase and decrease
> font sizes.  Now that I'm used to it, I miss it in the rest of the
> desktop.

Works for me in Evolution too. And the ctrl-mousewheel works in Evo and
Mozilla.

Xav


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[Evolution] Go to next unread message (not only in current folder)

2002-01-29 Thread Soeren Sonnenburg

Hi.

Is there a shortcut to go to the next unread message which is not
necessarily in the current folder ?

'n' and 'p' do work but only in the current folder. But if you have
(like I do) >20 folders it is a pain to go to the next via mouse-clicks.

Thanks,
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[Evolution] RFE: Remove attachment

2002-01-29 Thread Kenneth Porter

To the RMB menu for an attachment, add "Remove". I want to be able to
keep record of people sending me trojans, but I don't want to keep the
actual attachment, as that will just trigger the periodic virus scanner.




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Re: [Evolution] dynamically setting smtp server?

2002-01-29 Thread Kenneth Porter

On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 17:18, Gil Hauer wrote:
> Is there an easy way to dynamically change the smtp server information
> for each account? I tend to move my laptop between work and home and
> it's a bit of a pain editing the mail settings each time I want to send
> mail. Is there an evironment variable or something?

Use DNS. Do you have a different domain name at home and at the office?
Try to get a cname in both domains that has the same name and points to
the smtp server. Eg. at home on my lan I have smtp.myhome.lan pointing
to my smtp gateway, and at the office I have smtp.myoffice.lan pointing
at the office mail server. I then configure my mail server to be just
"smtp", and the machine's domain (either myoffice.lan or myhome.lan)
will get suffixed to this before getting resolved to the right mail
server.

My mail gateways are both sendmail, and will attempt to deliver directly
to the final destination and then fall back to the ISP's mail server
(The setting is confFALLBACK_MX in sendmail.mc.) You could run sendmail
on your client with this setup, so it bypasses the ISP mail server in
most cases and only uses the server if the final destination turns your
client away.


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Re: [Evolution] dynamically setting smtp server?

2002-01-29 Thread Janus Christensen

On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 02:18, Gil Hauer wrote:
> Is there an easy way to dynamically change the smtp server information
> for each account? I tend to move my laptop between work and home and
> it's a bit of a pain editing the mail settings each time I want to send
> mail. Is there an evironment variable or something?

How about creating two accounts, one for each smtp server. I don't know
if it possible to have two accounts with the same email address, but if
you can this should do the trick.

Of course, you would still have to manually enable/disable each account
when switching from a work setting to a home setting and vice-versa, to
avoid waiting for a time-out from one of the accounts every time you
check email.

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Re: [Evolution] i dont want to read html mail

2002-01-29 Thread Zot O'Connor

Well well.  Another AMAZING feature laying latent.  This is too cool.


On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 05:41, Xavier Bestel wrote:
> le mar 29-01-2002 à 14:23, Kenneth MacDonald a écrit :
> > > "Xavier" == Xavier Bestel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > Xavier> le mar 29-01-2002 à 00:00, Zot O'Connor a écrit :
> > >> This would be a nice option.  I have a very high res screen and
> > >> often windows' based HTML generated email is way too small.
> > >> being able to view "Plain" with an HTML button would be great.
> > >> Also it would improve security (no javascript attacks, etc.).
> > 
> > Xavier> Here too, HTML mail is always too small to read. And if I
> > Xavier> adjust the font size in gtkhtml, then other things in
> > Xavier> gtkhtml (and html mail composing) is too big.
> > 
> > Mozilla has a nice feature to use ^+ and ^- to increase and decrease
> > font sizes.  Now that I'm used to it, I miss it in the rest of the
> > desktop.
> 
> Works for me in Evolution too. And the ctrl-mousewheel works in Evo and
> Mozilla.
> 
>   Xav
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Forward with headers...View headers?

2002-01-29 Thread Ian Goldberg

On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 19:23, Ed Weinberg wrote:

> The next thing in my wish list is a hotkey to view headers or raw, or a
> way to customize the menu to give me a button to do this.

You can add accelerators to your
/usr/share/gnome/ui/evolution-mail-message.xml file yourself.  Thinking
your suggestion was a good one, I just made Control-1, Control-2,
Control-3 select normal, full headers, source view, respectively.

Just add:

   accel="*Control*1"

or whatever to the  tags you want hotkeys for.

   - Ian

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Re: [Evolution] dynamically setting smtp server?

2002-01-29 Thread Ian Goldberg

On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 12:31, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 17:18, Gil Hauer wrote:
> > Is there an easy way to dynamically change the smtp server information
> > for each account? I tend to move my laptop between work and home and
> > it's a bit of a pain editing the mail settings each time I want to send
> > mail. Is there an evironment variable or something?
> 
> Use DNS. Do you have a different domain name at home and at the office?
> Try to get a cname in both domains that has the same name and points to
> the smtp server. Eg. at home on my lan I have smtp.myhome.lan pointing
> to my smtp gateway, and at the office I have smtp.myoffice.lan pointing
> at the office mail server. I then configure my mail server to be just
> "smtp", and the machine's domain (either myoffice.lan or myhome.lan)
> will get suffixed to this before getting resolved to the right mail
> server.

You can also just have a local name like "smtp" in your /etc/hosts file,
and you won't need your provider's assistance.  If you arrange that that
entry changes when you connect in different places, everything will work
transparently.  [Well, you may still have issues with authentication
being different in the two places.]

In order to get arbitrary config files changed when you log in at
different places, I use an excellent little program called
"intuitively".  It probes your network to see where you are, and based
on the results, configures whatever files you want.

   - Ian

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[Evolution] LDAP + NIS

2002-01-29 Thread Peter Ward


(I looked through the past 4 months of Archives before asking .. BTW
does anyone know how to search ALL the archives for the list?)

Currently evolution doesn't want to use my ldap server for address
completion so it bitches about a lot of "invalid recipients".

1) Can I set up Evolution to use my LDAP server for address-completion.
If so, how?

2) Can I setup Evolution to use the NIS aliases map? If so, how? 

Thanks,
  Pete




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[Evolution] Problems with Red Carpet

2002-01-29 Thread Rory D. Hudson

Hello there...

Ok I am having problems with  red carpet.  I can connect fine, but at
any time when I need to update a package it says that it cannot connect
to the server.  Any ideas?  Any help would be grateful.  Thanks...I have
tried gnumeric, evolution, and red-carpet packages

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Re: [Evolution] Problems with Red Carpet

2002-01-29 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast

The main server is pretty loaded today - you should probably try a
mirror or something.

Jeff

On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 15:29, Rory D. Hudson wrote:
> Hello there...
> 
> Ok I am having problems with  red carpet.  I can connect fine, but at
> any time when I need to update a package it says that it cannot connect
> to the server.  Any ideas?  Any help would be grateful.  Thanks...I have
> tried gnumeric, evolution, and red-carpet packages
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Problems with Red Carpet

2002-01-29 Thread Matthew J. Doller

you might get more luck if you try the red-carpet list
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On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 15:29, Rory D. Hudson wrote:
> Hello there...
> 
> Ok I am having problems with  red carpet.  I can connect fine, but at
> any time when I need to update a package it says that it cannot connect
> to the server.  Any ideas?  Any help would be grateful.  Thanks...I have
> tried gnumeric, evolution, and red-carpet packages
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RE: [Evolution] Problems with Red Carpet

2002-01-29 Thread Michael J. Rensing

Yeah. An extremely busy red carpet server. Currently it takes about 5 to 15
minutes just to get connected using an automated ftp server. Keep trying.

Michael

> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Rory D. Hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:30 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Evolution] Problems with Red Carpet
>
>
> Hello there...
>
> Ok I am having problems with  red carpet.  I can connect fine, but at
> any time when I need to update a package it says that it cannot connect
> to the server.  Any ideas?  Any help would be grateful.  Thanks...I have
> tried gnumeric, evolution, and red-carpet packages
>
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[Evolution] So what's with page wrap?

2002-01-29 Thread Zot O'Connor

All of a sudden Evo seem to not wrap lines at useful points.

Is this just me hitting a setting, or random bad email days.

It seems like 9/10 emails require email sizing, and replies do not wrap
long lines.

I do not remember days like this.



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[Evolution] Apply filters expunges?

2002-01-29 Thread John Weber

Is it correct that ctrl-a, ctrl-y (select all, apply filters) also
expunges deleted messages? evo 1.0.2, RH7.1. That's what it does for me,
at least on inbox.



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[Evolution] message list should show full text in popup

2002-01-29 Thread Justin A

I had an idea for a new feature that should be really easy to
implement...

In the message list when a field doesn't fit and it shows "realy long
subj...", it would be nice if it popped up the full subject/from adress
in a tooltip.

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[Evolution] retrieve mail times

2002-01-29 Thread John Weber

Hi,

RH7.1, evolution versions since the middle of last year.

I use fetchmail to get my mail from various servers and spool it on my
local machine. I use pop to get it into evolution from my local machine.
What I've noticed is that mail which has an applicable filter to put it
in another folder (besides inbox) is processed almost immediately, while
mail that is destined for inbox (no filter applies) takes roughly 30
seconds. Anybody know why or how to fix this?

Thanks

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Re: [Evolution] retrieve mail times

2002-01-29 Thread Ian Goldberg

> 
> Hi,
> 
> RH7.1, evolution versions since the middle of last year.
> 
> I use fetchmail to get my mail from various servers and spool it on my
> local machine. I use pop to get it into evolution from my local machine.
> What I've noticed is that mail which has an applicable filter to put it
> in another folder (besides inbox) is processed almost immediately, while
> mail that is destined for inbox (no filter applies) takes roughly 30
> seconds. Anybody know why or how to fix this?

Is your inbox huge?  That could slow down additions to it.

   - Ian

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Re: [Evolution] retrieve mail times

2002-01-29 Thread John Weber

On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 20:43, Ian Goldberg wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > RH7.1, evolution versions since the middle of last year.
> > 
> > I use fetchmail to get my mail from various servers and spool it on my
> > local machine. I use pop to get it into evolution from my local machine.
> > What I've noticed is that mail which has an applicable filter to put it
> > in another folder (besides inbox) is processed almost immediately, while
> > mail that is destined for inbox (no filter applies) takes roughly 30
> > seconds. Anybody know why or how to fix this?
> 
> Is your inbox huge?  That could slow down additions to it.
> 
>- Ian
> 

No, this happens with even just one small test message in my spool and
nothing in inbox. I also tried it with "local delivery" instead of pop.
There's a big file called mbox.ibex. What is that? I tried renaming it
to xxx.mbox.ibex.xxx but it didn't help, and the timestamp on it still
gets updated after mail retrieval even with it's new name. Should I
delete it? Also the CPU goes to 90+ % during the retrieval time.

[jweber@ceora Inbox]$ pwd
/home/jweber/evolution/local/Inbox
[jweber@ceora Inbox]$ ls -l
total 20868
-rw-r--r--1 jweber   jweber103 Jul 24  2001 folder-metadata.xml
-rw-rw-r--1 jweber   jweber 95 Jan 29 13:19 local-metadata.xml
-rw---1 jweber   jweber  0 Jan 29 21:15 mbox
-rw---1 jweber   jweber  43885 Jan 29 21:15 mbox.ev-summary
-rw---1 jweber   jweber   21286144 Jan 29 21:15 mbox.ibex
[jweber@ceora Inbox]$ 


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Re: [Evolution] message list should show full text in popup

2002-01-29 Thread Zot O'Connor

Netscape does this.  Also does this for the From field

On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 19:33, Justin A wrote:
> I had an idea for a new feature that should be really easy to
> implement...
> 
> In the message list when a field doesn't fit and it shows "realy long
> subj...", it would be nice if it popped up the full subject/from adress
> in a tooltip.
> 
> -- 
> -Justin
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[Evolution] Cascading Evolutions

2002-01-29 Thread Bradley Alexander

Hey,

Got a sort of involved newbie question. I am a dyed-in-the-wool Mutt
user who recently started using Evolution. Thus far, I have been very
happy with Evolution's performance.

I'd like to take it to the next level. I have an internal mailserver
that is either receiving mail via smtp or for one account popping to an
external server. So the mail resides on the internal server, where my
workstation pops the mail into Evolution, where it is then racked,
packed and stacked into folders for my viewing pleasure.

Now the complex part. I would like to, nondestructively, use Evolution
on my laptop to read mails coming into either a) my workstation or b)
the mailserver when the workstation is down or otherwise unavailable.

In theory, I would like to be able to subscribe to the folders on
defiant (the workstation), as well as set up a similar virtual folder
layout on the laptop...I have tried subscribing to folders on defiant
from the laptop, but nothing changes on Evolution.

Whats the best way to go about this?

Also, my company is issuing certificates for signing emails. I got an
email from a coworker, and the little "this message is digitally signed"
padlock, but when I check the signature on the message, it gives me
"Evolution does not recognize this type of signed message." Is this a
future functionality for Evolution?

Notes:
mailserver (vorcha)   - SPARC 20/Debian woody (testing)
workstation (defiant) - Athlon 1GHz/Debian sid (unstable)
laptops (orinoko) - Tecra 8000/Debian sid (unstable)

defiant and orinoko are both running the debs of Evolution.

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[Evolution] POP changes, rewrite/etc [head]

2002-01-29 Thread Not Zed


I've just checked in a new implementation of POP3 to the head version of
camel/evolution.

The main changes are:
 - downloads backed by a cache, which isn't often used but could save
time sometimes
 - asynchronous downloads, if the server reports it supports PIPELINING,
multiple commands are sent without waiting for replies.
 - removed KPOP authentication mechanism.  Reportedly it isn't used very
widely, and any that do use AUTH KERBEROS_V4 as well.
 - added support for SASL authentication mechanisms, although so far
only AUTH LOGIN tested.

Main difference - if your server reports it supports pipelined commands,
and you are on a slow, remote, link (i.e. high latency), you should see
significant performance increases if you are downloading lots of small
messages (like upto 5-10x faster overall, including the 'deleting
messages' part).

I've done a fair bit of testing, including cancellation and whatnot, but
no doubt something will have slipped through.  Maybe there should also
be an option to turn on pipelining even if the server doesn't say it can
do it (its been implemented in a way that works on many other servers
too).

Most of the progress reporting should have made it from the old code,
but if your server doesn't support UIDL, the process of creating uid's
isn't reported very well.  This doesn't affect many people, and this
step should be >> faster than it used to be anyway.

So just keep an eye out if you use pop, i'd like to know if there's any
problems like: 

 - mishandled downloads
 - cancellation misbehaviour
 - interoperability with existing configs
 - build problems
 - memory leaks, particularly in exceptional circumstances
 - etc.

Thanks,
 Michael




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[Evolution] Attachments

2002-01-29 Thread Martin Skjöldebrand

Running Evo 1.0.1 I selected three emails and Forwarded them to my work
account. When getting to work I noticed that attachments in the
originals were converted to ascii (which is hell if they are MS Office
docs). Is this standard behaviour on Evos part?

Martin S
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[Evolution] Backing up folders?

2002-01-29 Thread Bradley Alexander

Is there an approved way to handle this? Using tar and deleting messages
from the folders seems so inelegant, as well as inaccessible. How do
folks on this list handle it?

Thanks,
-- 
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Re: [Evolution] dynamically setting smtp server?

2002-01-29 Thread Heinz-Josef Claes

Am Die, 2002-01-29 um 02.18 schrieb Gil Hauer:
> Is there an easy way to dynamically change the smtp server information
> for each account? I tend to move my laptop between work and home and
> it's a bit of a pain editing the mail settings each time I want to send
> mail. Is there an evironment variable or something?
> 
> Thanks,
> Gil
> 
> 
I have the same problem. Entry something like "smtpserver" in evolution.
Then change the ip address of "smtpserver" in /etc/hosts by hand or by
script.

Regards,
Heinz-Josef Claes
> 
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[Evolution] FTP access firewalled

2002-01-29 Thread crispin

Hello,

Trying to get a tarball of Evolution 1.0.2. According to 
http://www.ximian.com/devzone/source.html I can get it from 
ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/source/evolution/

However when I try to ftp I get 

ftp ftp.ximian.com
Connected to red-carpet.ximian.com.
421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection

In fact checking the port I found

nmap -p 21 ftp.ximian.com

Starting nmap V. 2.53 by [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
Interesting ports on  (129.250.184.229):
Port   State   Service
21/tcp filteredftp 

Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 4 seconds

So its actually firewalled!!! Why is this port firewalled? 

I went looking for some mirror sites but all I found was a form on how to sign up to 
become a mirror, not a list of the actual mirrors.

Please help! How can I get the source tarball? This is GPL, right? I must be able to 
get it from somewhere!

Kind regards

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