Re: [Evolution] PGP decrypting/verifying
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 01:51:46PM -0500, Damian Gerow wrote: Unfortunately, no. But you can select the encrypted blurb and run `gpg --decrypt` on the command-line and then paste the selection into the terminal when gpg asks for it. Yeah, that's what I'm doing right now. It works fine for me, just wondering if there was some sort of option that would save me n messages x 5 seconds a day... :) If you don't mind trading one time waste for another - configure mutt's pgp/gpg support and have it point at the same inbox that evolution does. When you encounter an in-line signed message, pop over to mutt and pipe the message through gpg. -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://www.oubliette.org/~dberger Inter arma silent leges Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. Justice Louis Brandeis, dissenting, Olmstead v US (1928) A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] printer configuration
Is it sufficient to set $PRINTER to their default printer? Provided it's done early enough (i.e. in their .bashrc or equiv) it should affect all applications which print through lpr. On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 10:52:49AM -0500, DuWayne R Holsbeck wrote: is there any way to configure evolution to print to a specific printer, other than typing lpr -Plp@whatever in the printer box? When I open the print window, the only selections are printer(lpr) or file. I have some users that are not able to handle typing in there passwords, let alone a real command ;-) I have many network printers, and it would be really nice to let them choose between them, and set up one of the printers as default. I searched the Ximian site's faqs and knowlegbase but came up empty. Thanx DuWayne -- I have a switch in my apartment that doesn't do anything. Every once in a while I turn it on and off. On and off. On and off. One day I got a call from a woman in France who said Cut it out! -- Steven Wright -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://www.oubliette.org/~dberger Inter arma silent leges Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. Justice Louis Brandeis, dissenting, Olmstead v US (1928) A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C msg07841/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Evolution] OT: Changing Email Addrs in Bugzilla?
Anyone @ Ximian know if there's a way to change ones email address in bugzilla? This list is easy - I can unsub/resub - but I'd like to move my account in bugzilla as well. Any info would be appreciated. -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Inter arma silent leges Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. Justice Louis Brandeis, dissenting, Olmstead v US (1928) A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C
[Evolution] OT: RedHat 7.3 Support
Apologies for the off-topic post - but can anyone from Ximain comment on when ximian packages may appear for RedHat 7.3? Thanks. -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Inter arma silent leges Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. Justice Louis Brandeis, dissenting, Olmstead v US (1928) A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[Evolution] printing question
This may be OT, but I figured it was worth a shot. When printing from Evolution the bottom margin seems to be set to aggressively - causing the last line of text on a page to be cut off horizontally. I've looked everywhere I can think of and can't find a place to set that particular parameter. Is this something that a gnome-print client (like Evo) does - or is it some option secreted away in gnome-print somewhere? Any suggestions appreciated. Oh, and while I'm on (off) the topic - anyone here know if and when gnome-print will allow you to print portions of a document (i.e. page x-y)? -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Inter arma silent leges Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. Justice Louis Brandeis, dissenting, Olmstead v US (1928) A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C
Re: [Evolution] Problem with answering encrypted emails
See bug 2572 - which preports to be fixed. I just tested with an in-line pgp message and duplicated your results, so I reopened it. On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 03:36:22PM +0100, Ernst Lehmann wrote: Hi Everybody, perhaps this has been discussed already here, so sorry in this case, but I have an annoying problem with Evolution 1.0.3 with answering encrypted emails. Everytime i enter my password, the Email is decryped and readable in the display window. But when I press the reply-button, I get a wonderfull quoting of a pgp/gpg block. And hmm, thats not realy what I want, in quoting Email. Is there a workaround (a better one, than cut+paste) ? Thanks in advance -- Bye Ernst - Ernst Lehmann Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Inter arma silent leges Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. Justice Louis Brandeis, dissenting, Olmstead v US (1928) A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C msg06156/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Evolution] RPM dependencies
BTW: I grabbed the latest snapshot SRPM and rebuilt it, after removing the dependency from libnss3 from the .spec. I had some trouble with openldap, so removed it (I don't use it anyway). After rpm -e evolution, rpm -Uhv my rpm I was able to upgrade Mozilla and Galeon, which required removing libnss3 libnss-devel, libnspr4 and libnspr4-devel (as well as mozilla-xmlterm). -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Inter arma silent leges Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. Justice Louis Brandeis, dissenting, Olmstead v US (1928) A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[Evolution] RPM dependencies
Is there any chance that future builds could be built without the explicit dependency on libnss3? I'd like to upgrade to the latest Mozilla (0.9.7 vs. 0.9.5-ximian) and galeon (1.0.2, which requires 0.9.7 vs. 0.12.8) - and the only package standing in my way is evolution. Evo also relies on libraries from libnspr4, but it relies only on the libraries, not explicitly on the package. Alternatively - could one of the Ximian folks comment on when the desktop folks might get around to updating some of the more core packages? (nautilus, mozilla, gnumeric, etc.) Thanks. -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Inter arma silent leges Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. Justice Louis Brandeis, dissenting, Olmstead v US (1928) A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Evolution] RPM dependencies
On Wed, 2002-01-09 at 18:49, Jeremy Katz wrote: Especially as the packages should automatically pick up the file dependency on libnss3.so. which they do. And I'm pretty sure that the mozilla 0.9.7 packages from mozilla.org include the libnss3.so libraries in the mozilla-psm package. I need to Correct again - the nspr libs are in the mozilla package, and the nss libs are in the mozilla-psm package. So all the moving parts are present and accounted for - just not where the evo packages expect to find them. -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Inter arma silent leges Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. Justice Louis Brandeis, dissenting, Olmstead v US (1928) A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[Evolution] OT: Ximan Desktop Manual
Random question: can any of the Ximian folks clue me in on what software was used to create the manual that accompanies the Desktop CD? I have a sneaking suspicion it's not free, but I'd love to be proven wrong. Cheers. -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Inter arma silent leges Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. Justice Louis Brandeis, dissenting, Olmstead v US (1928) A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Evolution] Re: [Galeon-user] Regular total lockups with 1.0.1 (and earlier)
Counterpoint: I too am running RH 7.2 (with updates) on several machines - ranging from my 1.3Ghz Athlon to a cluster of SMP 2xPIIIs - many (most?) of them are running Ximian gnome (including, I might add, the Ximian mozilla packages) . I've had them running, under fairly constant use, since about a week after RH 7.2 was released. And galeon is an almost immediate install - though you'll note that I'm running a slightly old version due to the old Ximian mozilla packages. Total number of lockups across the group: 0. Might I suggest that until someone has some stronger evidence that we (collectively) refrain from bashing vendors and instead focus on documenting common trends? On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 01:44:55PM -0600, Chris Ford wrote: I am running RH7.2 on several different machines, with several different hardware configurations, and none of them have ever locked up. I am running Evolution with Havoc Pennington's packages, not Ximian's. From my experiences with the Ximian packages, they tend to produce unreliable performance. I would not blame RH7.2 for the problems. -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Inter arma silent leges Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. Justice Louis Brandeis, dissenting, Olmstead v US (1928) A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C msg04600/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Evolution] IMAP comments
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 05:51:58PM -0500, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: the \Recent flag thing... we *could* do it but we'd need to have some way of showing the difference in the UI and no other gui client makes the distinction between a \Recent message and a non \Recent message - if mutt does it, then it's the *only* client that does). Hate to contradict you - but Netscape Messenger also differentiates. Newly delivered messages have a green arrow (or something - it's really small) on their closed envelope icon. Old unread messages just have a closed envelope. -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Inter arma silent leges Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. Justice Louis Brandeis, dissenting, Olmstead v US (1928) A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C msg04311/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Evolution] Strange bug in v1.0
For what it's worth - I can reproduce the bug using your steps. Evo 1.0 on RH 7.1 On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 03:09:13PM -0500, Ettore Perazzoli wrote: I'm wondering whether anyone else is able to duplicate the Evolution bug I've now managed to dupe on two systems. Totally reproducible for me too. See #16676 on the Bugzilla. Larry, Radek, please have a look, this is pretty bad. :-) I *tried* to create my first HTML email this morning as I needed to create a simple 2 column table and didn't want to have to attach a word document. I got all the table created, but before I sent the email I decided to embolden the first row. I selected the text in the first row of the table, right to left (i.e., started at end of second cell to the start of the first cell) then selected Format-Style-Bold. The entire content part of the email disappeared! I tried various attempts at resizing the window, minimizing or rolling up the window and restoring but nothing brought it back. I tried to save it as a draft, which crashed Evolution's mail shell. I tried to create a table tonight on my home system rather than my work machine and trying to make the header row bold again also killed the mail window, losing the content. Can anyone else duplicate this to the point that it can be declared a bug? -- Ettore -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Inter arma silent leges Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. Justice Louis Brandeis, dissenting, Olmstead v US (1928) A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C msg04427/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Evolution] dumb question about mail delivery types (take 2)
I sent this several days ago and didn't get a response - so since I haven't figured it out on my own, I figured I'd send it again, in the hopes that someone might throw me a bone... So - currently I use fetchmail and procmail to fetch my mail from several POP servers and deliver directly to ~/evolution/local/Inbox/mbox - works great - and allows me to use both evo and mutt to read my mail without too many hoops to jump through. The only downsides are (a) to see new messages in Evo I have to expunge my inbox (i.e. evo can't autocheck every n minutes) and (b) I can't use filters. I spent a bit of time this morning experimenting with the various mail delivery options in Evo in an effort to get filters working - and I'm now pretty confused. There are 6 options - 4 if you exclude POP and IMAP: Standard Unix mbox spools Maildir-format mail directories Local Delivery None I'm unclear on a few things: 1. what's the difference between Standard Unix mbox spools and local delivery? The former says it's for reading and storing local mail in standard mbox spool files and the latter says for retrieving local mail from standard mbox formatted spools. Does that mean that standard unix mbox spools doesn't move mail between the selected spool and your inbox? 2. maildir-format mail directories says it's for storing local mail in maildir directories - does that mean it does or doesn't move things from the folder specified into your inbox? 3. Why does the apply filters to messages in INBOX option vanish from Receiving Options when you select local delivery? I tried a couple things without success: 1. changing procmail to deliver to /var/spool/mail/dberger in mbox format and changing one of my evo accounts to local delivery. I sent (and received) a test message to myself and tried to get evo to snatch it via Send/Receive - the message was never found. 2. changing procmail to deliver to ~/Mail/INBOX in Maildir format and selecting maildir format directories - with the directory pointed at ~/Mail/Inbox. Again, send and receive a test message - but evo never picked it up and moved it to my inbox when I did Send/Receive. Anyone have any ideas, or clarification on how the various mail delivery options are supposed to work? -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Inter arma silent leges Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. Justice Louis Brandeis, dissenting, Olmstead v US (1928) A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C msg03124/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Evolution] Can't trust Evolution to send big attachments...
Will all of you folks who chimed in on this go take a look at bug 6024 - it describes the same problem. Of particular interest would be what kernel version you're running and if any of you are running something other than linux (i.e. solaris, etc.). On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 10:44:04AM +, Ian Stuart wrote: On Fri, 2001-11-02 at 09:47, Rebecca J. Walter wrote: I don't think that would be it in this case, because the file name on the file she received was not the same as what I sent. Although I didn't go out to her place and check it. My husband then sent the same file to her with Netscape and she received it without a problem. I think she uses Netscape in Windows, but I'm not sure. It is definitely a problem caused by Evo in some way, it is just a question of HOW evo is doing this. But I'm not smart enough to figure that out. :-) Can I just check that when you and your husband sent the file, you were using the same internet connection (same ISP/work-place/whatever) If you were using different email servers, then there is a possibility that you hit a limit for out-bound mail - as set by your mail-server (and not Evolution) This does not imply that I know there is no problem with evolution, I'm just trying to think of other options too :) -- --==++ Ian Stuart: Edinburgh University Data Library. I build things: computer programs (with code); or cars (with metal) Personal web site: http://lucas.ucs.ed.ac.uk/ -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Inter arma silent leges Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. Justice Louis Brandeis, dissenting, Olmstead v US (1928) A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C PGP signature
Re: [Evolution] Releas Candidate 1 totally broken
On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 12:52:57AM +0100, Robert Marz wrote: After restoring from backup (yeah - I do have one and a special before every new evo snapshot :-) the UI was partly freezing. Switching workspaces did help only a little. I've seen similar behavior - I had to revert back to the official .16 release - I filed bug 14092 with some of my experiences. As Luis has already noted - the bug on the calendar misbehavior is 14067. -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Inter arma silent leges Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. Justice Louis Brandeis, dissenting, Olmstead v US (1928) A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C PGP signature
Re: [Evolution] NEW problem with Evo and encryption
I think there's a bug in bugzilla on the topic, no? Eventually it would be friendlier if Evo did the right thing in both cases - since the recipient has no control over the broken mailers on the send side (hell, I'm ecstatic when I find someone who can spell pgp ;) On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 02:46:48PM -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: The problem with in-line pgp encrypted messages is that we have to do evil hacks to detect and then decrypt the text and show it in the viewer. When we go to reply, we use a different code path that looks for the message body part and sends that off to the composer. It doesn't do any evil hacks to decrypt pgp encrypted blocks. Jeff -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Inter arma silent leges History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure. - Thurgood Marshall A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C PGP signature
Re: [Evolution] Encrypted attachments with Evolution 0.14 do not work
between us worked without problems. My system is SuSE 7.2 with pgp 6.5.8. The evolution is 0.14 as downloaded last week using Red Carpet. Has there been a change to the encryption methodology of Evolution? Should I change my evolution setting in some manner? Have other user successfully sent encrypted attachments using evolution 0.14? If I send encrypted attachment using evolution from my computer to my wife's computer also using evolution then the attachments are received correctly at her computer. However the majority of my email recipients are not using evolution as their email package so this is not as significant as being able to communicate with other users. Any suggestions? Or does some one know how to back grade to evolution 0.13? -- Ralph Sanford - If your government does not trust you, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - should you trust your government? DH/DSS Key - 0x7A1BEA01 ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Inter arma silent leges They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759. A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C PGP signature
Re: [Evolution] Encrypted attachments with Evolution 0.14 do not work
Ok - the good (?) news it that it looks like his mailer in this case. I sent a message from mutt and his mailer broke in the same way. Either his mailer is bad, or mutt and evo are doing the same wrong things. Ralph - if you provide me an email address for one of your colleagues using PMMail (and a public key) I'll send them a test message from mutt and see if PMMail behaves any differently. On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 11:31:34AM -0700, Dan Berger wrote: I've got some initial results that suggest there is indeed an interop problem - I'm trying to get more detail. Mutt has no trouble groking messages sent with the current version (latest snap) but a friend using a windows mailer reports similar symptoms (the base64 attachment isn't being decoded). Of course, It could be a bug in his mailer. -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Inter arma silent leges History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure. - Thurgood Marshall A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C PGP signature
Re: [Evolution] Encrypted attachments with Evolution 0.14 do not work
I've just initiated a test to see if I can reproduce your observation. I'll let you know. Have you filed this in bugzilla? (I suggest you do - let me know the bug number and I'll add my comments to it once I get a response on my test.) On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 06:41:24PM -0600, Ralph Sanford wrote: I recently tried to send attachments with my email from Evolution 0.14 encrypted using pgp. What the recipients received was an encrypted email which when decrypted had the attachment included within the body of the email (not as an attachment) and the attachment appeared to remain encrypted. The 3 recipients have not changed their systems since the last encrypted mails were sent successfully and all 3 recipients have reported the same problem. The only change I can think of is that I upgraded from Evo 0.13 to 0.14 via Red Carpet. All the recipients are using pgp 6.5.8, the keys were exchanged years ago and have not changed. I believe all the recipients are using PMMail as their email program. Until yesterday the use of encrypted mail between us worked without problems. My system is SuSE 7.2 with pgp 6.5.8. The evolution is 0.14 as downloaded last week using Red Carpet. Has there been a change to the encryption methodology of Evolution? Should I change my evolution setting in some manner? Have other user successfully sent encrypted attachments using evolution 0.14? If I send encrypted attachment using evolution from my computer to my wife's computer also using evolution then the attachments are received correctly at her computer. However the majority of my email recipients are not using evolution as their email package so this is not as significant as being able to communicate with other users. Any suggestions? Or does some one know how to back grade to evolution 0.13? Thanks -- Ralph Sanford - If your government does not trust you, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - should you trust your government? DH/DSS Key - 0x7A1BEA01 -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Inter arma silent leges They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759. A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C PGP signature
[Evolution] digest handling with Evo
So, I've realized that one of the only two things I still use mutt for is handling list digest messages (the other being re-sending mail). I'm curious - those of you who get this list (or any other list) in a MIME digest - have you found an effective way to handle those messages in Evolution? -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Inter arma silent leges He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster... -- Friedrich Nietzsche A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C PGP signature
[Evolution] tnef - state of the world?
I know this has been discussed on this list in the past, but I don't recall (and can't find) where it was left. There is currently a bug in bugzilla (#232) on this - but no real comment in the bug. Is this something that could be lobbied to include in 1.1 - I'm sure I'm not the only one using Evo in a predominantly MS Outlook shop who runs into these thrice damned attachments. -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Inter arma silent leges He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster... -- Friedrich Nietzsche A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C PGP signature
Re: [Evolution] Current pet-hates for evolution
On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 07:09:39AM -0700, Pascal DeMilly wrote: Control-click. Doesn't work for me. Let say have 3 messages, I click on the 1st and shift-click on the last one. If I want to deselect the 2nd one, I should be able to ctrl-click on it. In all instances, evolution will always select only that message. This is almost certainly a window manager issue. I had the same problem when running sawfish - but solved it by removing one of the sawfish shortcuts that bound control-double-click (or something similar). -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Nolite te bastardes carborundorum He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster... -- Friedrich Nietzsche A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Current pet-hates for evolution
Just found it - check bug # 5297 (http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5297) On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 12:29:46PM -0700, Dan Berger wrote: On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 07:09:39AM -0700, Pascal DeMilly wrote: Control-click. Doesn't work for me. Let say have 3 messages, I click on the 1st and shift-click on the last one. If I want to deselect the 2nd one, I should be able to ctrl-click on it. In all instances, evolution will always select only that message. This is almost certainly a window manager issue. I had the same problem when running sawfish - but solved it by removing one of the sawfish shortcuts that bound control-double-click (or something similar). -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Nolite te bastardes carborundorum He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster... -- Friedrich Nietzsche A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Nolite te bastardes carborundorum He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster... -- Friedrich Nietzsche A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Evolution, procmail, and mutt
I don't have step by step instructions, but here's what I can tell you. I have fetchmail grabbing and procmail processing my incoming mail. My .procmailrc file points to my inbox (either ~/Mail/Inbox/ or ~/evolution/local/Inbox/mbox/ - see below). I've had no problems with this configuration - but you do have to expunge your inbox when in Evo to see newly arrived messages. As far as evo and mutt sharing mail files, I've done this two ways. 1. the real mail files live in ~/Mail and I've manually setup symlinks in ~/evolution/local/.../mbox. This only works with maildir or mh style folders - reason being that when evo expunges mbox files it re-writes the file, thus breaking the symlink. Assuming you're using maildir or mh for all your folders - this makes things work nicely in mutt, but each new folder must be added by hand in evo. 2. the real mail files live in ~/evolution/local/.../mbox. This works with mbox files. My .muttrc specifies ~/evolution/local/Inbox/mbox as my spool and ~/evolution/local/Sent/mbox as record. It works, but navigating folders in mutt is a bit of a pain. Thankfully evo has gotten to the point where I mostly don't use mutt when I'm on console (I am now, as Evo still doesn't manage mail list digests terribly well). Hope that helps. On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 02:05:00PM -0400, John Affleck wrote: I know this has been bandied about a couple times previously, but is it possible to have mutt/procmail and Evolution share the same folders/files ? If so, does anyone have step by step directions to do so. I've tried a couple of things myself, but stuff seems to blow up in unexpected fashions when I do so. The reason I'm interested is that I'd still like to be able to view my mail in a text-based client when I'm not at home, preferably without too much hassle. Thanks in advance, John A. -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Nolite te bastardes carborundorum We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C PGP signature
Re: [Evolution] contact problems in 0.13.99
It's a known bug - # 7406 - which also includes a suggested workaround. http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7406 On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 10:32:16PM -0700, Jon Nall wrote: hello. i'm running evolution 0.13.99 +cvs.2001.09.12.07.08. when i go to the contacts view, and edit a mailing list there, i try to save it, but get: Error modifying list: Card not found. if i try and delete it, i get Error removing list: Card not found. if i try and send mail to that mailing list, evolution-mail crashes. is this a known problem? thanks. nall. -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Nolite te bastardes carborundorum We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. -- Aristotle A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C PGP signature
[Evolution] Contact Strangeness with 200107052054
Before I file a bug - has anyone else experienced this? I can access my contact list from the compose window - both auto-complete and pressing the To/Cc/Bcc buttons work. However if I select the Contacts shortcut in the nav bar - no contact entries are displayed. -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Nolite te bastardes carborundorum If you can't explain it to an 8-year-old, you don't understand it --Albert Einstein A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C PGP signature
[Evolution] Re: Contact Strangeness with 200107052054
On 05 Jul 2001 20:36:39 -0700, Dan Berger wrote: Before I file a bug - has anyone else experienced this? I can access my contact list from the compose window - both auto-complete and pressing the To/Cc/Bcc buttons work. However if I select the Contacts shortcut in the nav bar - no contact entries are displayed. So a little more experimentation reveals the following: $ killev ; oaf-slay ; evolution // the contacts appear correctly // exit evolution $ evolution // contacts are gone from display, but the composer buttons work $ killev; evolution // contacts still gone $ oaf-slay ; evolution // contacts are back anyone else have this sort of problem? I'm going to write it up since it seems reproducible. -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Nolite te bastardes carborundorum If you can't explain it to an 8-year-old, you don't understand it --Albert Einstein A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Contact Strangeness with 200107052054
Nope - tried that - accessing through the folder list behaves the same way. On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 11:59:21PM -0400, Peter Williams wrote: On 05 Jul 2001 20:36:39 -0700, Dan Berger wrote: Before I file a bug - has anyone else experienced this? I can access my contact list from the compose window - both auto-complete and pressing the To/Cc/Bcc buttons work. However if I select the Contacts shortcut in the nav bar - no contact entries are displayed. What about if you select contacts through the folder tree? Probably your shortcut bar is messed up -- several things have contributed to shortcut-bar-brokenness in the past few weeks. -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Nolite te bastardes carborundorum If you can't explain it to an 8-year-old, you don't understand it --Albert Einstein A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Re: Contact Strangeness with 200107052054
On 05 Jul 2001 22:13:19 -0700, George Farris wrote: Go to your contacts and click Search-Show all and the contacts come back??? Unless I'm not understanding what your problem is. This is weird behaviour. Just tried that (Search-Show All) and indeed - my lost contacts are restored. Strange. I'll add this to the bug and downgrade it. -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Nolite te bastardes carborundorum If you can't explain it to an 8-year-old, you don't understand it --Albert Einstein A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Evolution] Re: evolution digest, Vol 1 #507 - 19 msgs
Subject: Re: [Evolution] ongoing trouble with
evolution-0.10.99-snap.ximian.200106181444
From: Jeffrey Stedfast [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dan Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 21 Jun 2001 13:53:02 -0400
2. Unable to open vfolders or Trash. If I try, evo hangs - the mouse
pointer continues to move, but I can't click anything outside the evo
window (and clicks inside the window don't invoke any action). If I
switch tasks with Alt-Tab, I can get to a shell and kill-ev. My gut
(and it's purely a wild-ass guess) is that it has something to do with
drag-n-drop code, based on the way the mouse is responding.
Opening a folder should not invoke the DnD code? By the way, VFolders
and Trash folders have to open other folders in order to display, so it
may just be that it's taking a while to open and not be a
crash/hang/whatever. This is especially the case if you have a lot of
mail and/or a lot of folders.
So I tried the CAMEL_VERBOSE_DEBUG=1 trick to help figure this out -
and it didn't shed any light on the subject. I then tried gdb'ing
each thread - here's what I see - sorry about the length..
This is the state the threads are in when evo hangs - and I'll I need
to do is click on a vfolder. I haven't repeated this excersise while
clicking on the Trash folder - if I need to, let me know.
$ ps -ef | grep evolution-mail
dberger 13083 4993 0 17:34 pts/400:00:00 evolution-mail
dberger 13096 13120 1 17:34 pts/400:00:02 evolution-mail
dberger 13095 13120 0 17:34 pts/400:00:00 evolution-mail
dberger 13083 13120 0 17:34 pts/400:00:00 evolution-mail
dberger 13099 13120 0 17:34 pts/400:00:00 evolution-mail
dberger 13100 13120 0 17:34 pts/400:00:00 evolution-mail
dberger 13101 13120 9 17:34 pts/400:00:12 evolution-mai
$ gdb /usr/bin/evolution-mail 13083
...
(gdb) where
#0 0x408d9dcb in __sigsuspend (set=0xb1a4)
at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/sigsuspend.c:48
#1 0x4066ec62 in __pthread_wait_for_restart_signal (self=0x40676920)
at pthread.c:783
#2 0x406702a2 in __pthread_lock (lock=0x409aa160, self=0x40676920)
at spinlock.c:68
#3 0x4066d7ba in __pthread_mutex_lock (mutex=0x409aa150) at mutex.c:84
#4 0x40913e76 in ptmalloc_lock_all () at malloc.c:1611
#5 0x4066db2c in __fork () at ptfork.c:73
#6 0x402ab7ea in gnome_segv_handle (signum=11) at gnome-init.c:652
#7 0x808f5fe in message_browser_get_type ()
#8 0x4066f532 in pthread_sighandler (signo=11, ctx={gs = 0, __gsh = 0,
fs = 0, __fsh = 0, es = 43, __esh = 0, ds = 43, __dsh = 0,
edi = 1080528128, esi = 3208642112, ebp = 3221222984, esp = 3221222968,
ebx = 13100, edx = 1080528156, ecx = 32, eax = 0, trapno = 16, err = 0,
eip = 1083022625, cs = 35, __csh = 0, eflags = 2097666,
esp_at_signal = 3221222968, ss = 43, __ssh = 0, fpstate = 0xb3b8,
oldmask = 2147483648, cr2 = 0}) at signals.c:96
#9 0x408d9c48 in __restore ()
at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/sigaction.c:127
#10 0x406703dc in __pthread_unlock (lock=0x81599e8) at restart.h:21
#11 0x4066d97f in __pthread_mutex_unlock (mutex=0x81599d8) at mutex.c:126
#12 0x40060770 in e_thread_put (e=0x81599d0, msg=0x825a298) at e-msgport.c:623
#13 0x8089e4d in mail_get_folder ()
#14 0x807276e in folder_browser_set_uri ()
#15 0x8074588 in folder_browser_factory_new_control ()
#16 0x806f97b in GNOME_Evolution_MailFilter_removeFilter ()
#17 0x40697da9 in impl_ShellComponent_create_view (servant=0x815bc14,
physical_uri=0x82378ac vfolder:RPG Tips Weekly, type=0x82378c8 mail,
ev=0xb7c8) at evolution-shell-component.c:261
#18 0x406888a0 in _ORBIT_skel_GNOME_Evolution_ShellComponent_createView (
_ORBIT_servant=0x815bc14, _ORBIT_recv_buffer=0x815a998, ev=0xb7c8,
_impl_createView=0x40697d60 impl_ShellComponent_create_view)
at Evolution-skels.c:663
#19 0x407fcae9 in ORBit_POA_handle_request (recv_buffer=0x815a998,
poa=0x812beb0) at orbit_poa.c:507
#20 0x407ffc06 in ORBit_handle_incoming_request (recv_buffer=0x815a998)
at server.c:90
#21 0x407fff11 in ORBit_handle_incoming_message (recv_buffer=0x815a998)
at server.c:160
#22 0x40819c0e in giop_main_handle_connection (connection=0x815d430)
at connection.c:1211
#23 0x407bbb77 in orb_handle_connection (source=0x815b9e8, cond=G_IO_IN,
cnx=0x815d430) at oaf-mainloop.c:69
#24 0x405394ba in g_io_unix_dispatch (source_data=0x815ba00,
current_time=0xb8fc, user_data=0x815d430) at giounix.c:135
#25 0x4053a9f6 in g_main_dispatch (dispatch_time=0xb8fc) at gmain.c:656
#26 0x4053afb1 in g_main_iterate (block=1, dispatch=1) at gmain.c:877
#27 0x4053b129 in g_main_run (loop=0x8131e90) at gmain.c:935
#28 0x4045748a in gtk_main () at gtkmain.c:524
#29 0x4078f002 in bonobo_main () at bonobo-main.c:277
#30 0x808f73e in main ()
#31 0x408d39cb in __libc_start_main (main=0x808f618 main, argc=1,
argv=0xbac4, init=0x80691e8 _init, fini=0x80fd7fc _fini,
rtld_fini=0x4000aea0
[Evolution] Calendar (still) Broken in latest RH snapshot?!
This has been the case for the last two (possibly three) RH 6.2 snapshots. I run evolution-calendar in it's own window, start the shell, and click on the Calendar or Task List - the following (still) occurs. $ evolution-calendar utf8_to_gtk: Show All = Show All utf8_to_gtk: Any field contains = Any field contains utf8_to_gtk: Summary contains = Summary contains utf8_to_gtk: Description contains = Description contains utf8_to_gtk: Comment contains = Comment contains utf8_to_gtk: Has category = Has category icaltimezone.c:1122: FILE: An operation on a file failed. Check errno for more detail. evolution-calendar: icaltimezone.c:1122: icaltimezone_parse_zone_tab: Assertion `0' failed. Aborted icaltimezone.c shows it's trying to open ZONEINFO_DIRECTORY/ZONES_TAB_FILENAME where ZONEINFO_DIRECTORY and ZONES_TAB_FILENAME are: icaltimezone.c:40 #define ZONEINFO_DIRECTORY PACKAGE_DATA_DIR /zoneinfo icaltimezone.c:44 #define ZONES_TAB_FILENAME zones.tab Does this look reasonable? A quick search of the filesystem (yes, the whole thing) reveals that the only zone.tab file is the one in my source tree. Doing a $ strings on /usr/lib/libical.so | grep -i zoneinfo /usr/share/libical/zoneinfo But there is no /usr/share/libical directory on my system. Should the package be including this? -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Nolite te bastardes carborundorum If you can't explain it to an 8-year-old, you don't understand it --Albert Einstein A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Evolution] Re: accesing (v)folders in evolution-0.10-snap.ximian.200106271652
(BTW: my initial message never arrived at the list - but this follow-up includes that original missed post). So I did a little more experimentation today - and this problem is almost certainly in the maildir code somewhere. First, I opened my inbox (in maildir format) and attempted to access a newly created vFolder. I observed the symptoms described below. I changed to a tty and issued a killev. I re-ran evolution, and using the Folder Properties item on the menu (by the way - there are two - is that intentional?) I converted (using evo) my mailbox to mh format. I was then able to access the vFolder without trouble. I ran the same test, converting the mh mailbox to mbox, again the vFolder worked just fine. I then converted (again, using evo) the mbox back to mh, and once again, vFolders lock up evolution. Hope this turns a lightbulb on for someone... On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 09:21:04PM -0700, Dan Berger wrote: I'm having trouble accessing folders in the latest red-carpet snapshots - some normal folders are OK, all vfolders suffer from the symptom to follow, as does Trash (don't ask me what they have in common, I have no idea). I can instantiate the folder list - but when I select one of these problem folders, the window stops accepting input. Further, it holds on to the cursor - I have to use Alt-Tab (using sawfish) to get focus to a terminal window where I can killev. I've tried running evolution from a terminal - I don't see anything unusual. If I just ctrl-c evolution (and leave the components running) and try to restart - it hangs at the splash screen. Any ideas? -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Nolite te bastardes carborundorum If you can't explain it to an 8-year-old, you don't understand it --Albert Einstein A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Nolite te bastardes carborundorum If you can't explain it to an 8-year-old, you don't understand it --Albert Einstein A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Evolution] ongoing trouble with evolution-0.10.99-snap.ximian.200106181444
So, a few that have been hanging around for quite some time: 1. Unable to delete PGP signed/encrypted messages from maildir folders. The messages survive an expunge. They can be deleted (with no trouble) by other mailers. 2. Unable to open vfolders or Trash. If I try, evo hangs - the mouse pointer continues to move, but I can't click anything outside the evo window (and clicks inside the window don't invoke any action). If I switch tasks with Alt-Tab, I can get to a shell and kill-ev. My gut (and it's purely a wild-ass guess) is that it has something to do with drag-n-drop code, based on the way the mouse is responding. 3. PDF attachments suggest they can be viewed in-line, but toggling that select does nothing. Viewing them via Acrobat Reader works just fine - so this is pretty minor. 4. Contacts are flakey - sometimes on evo start my contacts are there - other times, they aren't. Usually a kill-ev and/or oaf-slay solves the problem. Any comments? -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Nolite te bastardes carborundorum If you can't explain it to an 8-year-old, you don't understand it --Albert Einstein A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Continuing strange GPG behavior
On 20 May 2001 14:35:58 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: Oh. I'm not sure you only want to include it if it verified, this might be unexpected behavior. Besides, you may want to reply to that text anyway... True - I suppose if the composer window had a Quote Original Text button/menu item, you could give the user a choice. If we are going to automagically paste text from decrypted encrypted messages, then certainly. Does that mean it's on the feature list? ;) I don't think there is much in the ay of debugging info for PGP. You'll just have to gdb I guess. Ok - so I need a little assistance here - I tried attaching to the evolution-mail process, and evo pretty much dies at that point (I tell gdb to continue and evo is dead in the water). Any assistance would be good assistance... -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Nolite te bastardes carborundorum If you can't explain it to an 8-year-old, you don't understand it --Albert Einstein A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
[Evolution] evolution slightly misses the boat...
It took me a while to realize it - I was using daily snapshots and growing fat and happy, but then I realized Evo could no longer verify the PGP signatures generated by a friends (windows based) mailer. That's odd. I thought. Then I remembered - his mailer (using the latest windows-based PGP plugin) is generating in-line PGP signatures - which evo doesn't want to look for (no argument from me - mutt doesn't either - it's silly and expensive, scanning the message body for the pgp block, rather than just looking for the mime header). I have a procmail recipe that does the conversion during fetchmail process. 'Course since I've been using evo's built in POP support, procmail doesn't get run... So now I have to ask if there's a way to have the send/receive button invoke a handler process on the mail before delivery - or something equally ugly. Any suggestions? It would, of course, be nice if everyone else in the world did the right thing - but since that's not likely to happen in our lifetimes - I'd really like a better answer than fix the broken windows mailer/pgp interface. Oh, and could someone on the evo (or gtkhtml) teams *please* implement the control-shift-arrow bindings to select-previous-word (rather than jump to the subject widget)? Cheers. -- Dan Berger [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dberger Nolite te bastardes carborundorum If you can't explain it to an 8-year-old, you don't understand it --Albert Einstein A982 E6B1 CB2F 7A49 843A 9297 DA73 4371 1F54 8D0C ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.helixcode.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
