Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

[Mike Sangrey]

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 01:02, Ibukun Okitika wrote:
  
 The thing is, in a perfect world, Richard Stallman would be in good
 terms with every Tom, Dick and Harry in the corporate world. Of course
 that's a ridiculous thought. I was reading the article on The Register
 about this, and I thought it was generally an excellent business
 decision by Ximian. I've seen enough bankruptcies and depressing
 economic news (add to that the general mass failures of open source
 companies like VA) to know that a GPL'ed company cannot survive in
 today's economy. Ximian must make money, and they've decided to go about
 it in the best way possible. I think any reasonable person should be
 supportive of them in this decision.
 

Well said.

To my mind, the central hub which makes or breaks an open source company
is its focus on the very nature of service.  If a business seeks to
redefine service in terms of control, then that business practice is
unethical.  However, if the business takes a posture of serving, of
enabling, of fostering the success of individuals and other
organizations, then that company is doing the right thing.  It's a
tenuous balance between the right to get paid for the work performed and
the focus on serving others.  But, properly handling that tension will
make an open source company succeed.  A smart company will be very
sensitive to how its customers (and its competitor's customers) perceive
whether it is serving or controlling. 

IMO, the Ximian connector is a step in the right direction.  The problem
is that Microsoft positioned Exchange as a means of control.  The trick
for any company that fights in that space is going to be to break the
control without itself projecting a desire to control nor simply
feigning a service attitude.  It will be very interesting to see (and
watch) how Ximian maintains its integrity while performing this
extremely difficult task.

Well, that's my opinion.

Ximian, I'm cheer'n for ya.

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RE: [Evolution] IMAP Trash folder?

[Mike Sangrey]

How about instead of Trash it's called vTrash?

Sometime in the future (after 1.0) you could enable the user to choose
either a Trash folder or a vTrash folder.

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RE: [Evolution] IMAP Trash folder?

[Mike Sangrey]

On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 12:50, Eric Lambart wrote:
 10/24/2001 9:03:59 AM, Mike Sangrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 How about instead of Trash it's called vTrash?
 
 Sometime in the future (after 1.0) you could enable the user to choose
 either a Trash folder or a vTrash folder.
 
 Yeah, I seriously think the best (and SAFEST) interim solution should indicate 
_somehow_ that it is a vFolder.
 
 I like your idea, but wouldn't it be more a lot more consistent to simply put it in 
the vFolder tree?  Someone might think 
 vTrash was a typo; but if it was listed separately from all the other (real) 
folders, new users would realize something 
 was up and probably learn about vFolders in the process... and, we wouldn't have a 
vFolder sneakily hiding amonst the 
 real folders--which just doesn't seem right to me.
 

I don't think people would think `vTrash' is anymore a typo than
`vFolders'.  And the `v' leans toward a commonly accepted convention. 
At least it feels that way to me.

Also, if you stick `Trash' down in `vFolders' I would have assumed THAT
`Trash' folder had something to do with stuff deleted out of `vFolders'
and that REALLY gets confusing.

BTW, I haven't tried it, but what is suppose to happen if someone drags
and drops an email from a folder to `Trash'?  Does that do the right
thing?  You'll have people do that, you know.  Maybe this was discussed
already and I missed it.

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