Re: [Evolution] Archive function?
Lotus Notes does archives too. As long as you dont mind spending 90 seconds to start your mail client and having it occupy 96 megs of RAM. Itz a very heavy client. [JPK] On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 04:46:05PM -0400, Gil Hauer wrote: Outlook does indeed allow the user to archive old email based on cut-off dates. I believe that one can append to the archive file as well (that is, archive things once each month to the archive file). To echo the request, this is something that I'm really missing in Evo. I've been toying with scripting something but the threshold of pain isn't quite there yet :) Gil On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 16:37, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 16:16, Greg Macek wrote: Agreed that the tools are indeed already there to do this myself. I may end up doing something similar to what you describe below. However, having a front-end to this would ease newer users to Evo or Linux for that matter. That's all I'm saying. :-) I thought the concept of archiving was a unix-only thing anyway. I don't know of any Windows clients that actually support it (well, I'm only familiar with the more popular clients - I'm sure somewhere there is a Windows mailer that does this but I don't think Outlook nor Netscape/Mozilla offer this). Jeff On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 12:08, Jean-Marc V. Liotier wrote: On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 18:33, Greg Macek wrote: Are there any plans to implement an Archive function in Evolution? This could really come in handy for people who have years of email (like myself) stored, but rarely access. It would be convenient to have an interface to this, perhaps zipping up the folders you want archived and storing those files wherever you wanted. Then, if/when the time comes you need something, you can un-archive the file back into Evo. - Create a new local account with a maildir or mbox store - Move to this account the messages you want to archive - Deactivate the account - Store away the maildir or mailbox wherever you want. Burning a CD comes to mind. Reading the archived mail is exactly as simple : create a new local account and select your archive as the maildir or mbox store. As a bonus, your archive is readable by anything that can read standard mailbox formats. For example, mutt -f archive_file will open it. The tools you already have can do more than you think. -- Greg Macek | Senior IT Manager Marketing Resources, Inc. 630.530.0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.mrichi.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution -- GnuPG: ECBA EA08 C3C1 251E 5FB5 D196 F8C8 F8B7 AB60 234D msg09365/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Evolution] Archive function?
On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 18:33, Greg Macek wrote: Are there any plans to implement an Archive function in Evolution? This could really come in handy for people who have years of email (like myself) stored, but rarely access. It would be convenient to have an interface to this, perhaps zipping up the folders you want archived and storing those files wherever you wanted. Then, if/when the time comes you need something, you can un-archive the file back into Evo. - Create a new local account with a maildir or mbox store - Move to this account the messages you want to archive - Deactivate the account - Store away the maildir or mailbox wherever you want. Burning a CD comes to mind. Reading the archived mail is exactly as simple : create a new local account and select your archive as the maildir or mbox store. As a bonus, your archive is readable by anything that can read standard mailbox formats. For example, mutt -f archive_file will open it. The tools you already have can do more than you think. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Evolution] Archive function?
On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 12:33, Greg Macek wrote: Are there any plans to implement an Archive function in Evolution? This could really come in handy for people who have years of email (like myself) stored, but rarely access. It would be convenient to have an interface to this, perhaps zipping up the folders you want archived and storing those files wherever you wanted. Then, if/when the time comes you need something, you can un-archive the file back into Evo. Has it been requested before? Does it seem viable or a worthwhile addition to anybody? Just an idea... It's been requested before. It just hasn't been implemented as we've been busy with other things. Jeff -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Archive function?
Agreed that the tools are indeed already there to do this myself. I may end up doing something similar to what you describe below. However, having a front-end to this would ease newer users to Evo or Linux for that matter. That's all I'm saying. :-) On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 12:08, Jean-Marc V. Liotier wrote: On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 18:33, Greg Macek wrote: Are there any plans to implement an Archive function in Evolution? This could really come in handy for people who have years of email (like myself) stored, but rarely access. It would be convenient to have an interface to this, perhaps zipping up the folders you want archived and storing those files wherever you wanted. Then, if/when the time comes you need something, you can un-archive the file back into Evo. - Create a new local account with a maildir or mbox store - Move to this account the messages you want to archive - Deactivate the account - Store away the maildir or mailbox wherever you want. Burning a CD comes to mind. Reading the archived mail is exactly as simple : create a new local account and select your archive as the maildir or mbox store. As a bonus, your archive is readable by anything that can read standard mailbox formats. For example, mutt -f archive_file will open it. The tools you already have can do more than you think. -- Greg Macek | Senior IT Manager Marketing Resources, Inc. 630.530.0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.mrichi.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Archive function?
On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 16:16, Greg Macek wrote: Agreed that the tools are indeed already there to do this myself. I may end up doing something similar to what you describe below. However, having a front-end to this would ease newer users to Evo or Linux for that matter. That's all I'm saying. :-) I thought the concept of archiving was a unix-only thing anyway. I don't know of any Windows clients that actually support it (well, I'm only familiar with the more popular clients - I'm sure somewhere there is a Windows mailer that does this but I don't think Outlook nor Netscape/Mozilla offer this). Jeff On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 12:08, Jean-Marc V. Liotier wrote: On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 18:33, Greg Macek wrote: Are there any plans to implement an Archive function in Evolution? This could really come in handy for people who have years of email (like myself) stored, but rarely access. It would be convenient to have an interface to this, perhaps zipping up the folders you want archived and storing those files wherever you wanted. Then, if/when the time comes you need something, you can un-archive the file back into Evo. - Create a new local account with a maildir or mbox store - Move to this account the messages you want to archive - Deactivate the account - Store away the maildir or mailbox wherever you want. Burning a CD comes to mind. Reading the archived mail is exactly as simple : create a new local account and select your archive as the maildir or mbox store. As a bonus, your archive is readable by anything that can read standard mailbox formats. For example, mutt -f archive_file will open it. The tools you already have can do more than you think. -- Greg Macek | Senior IT Manager Marketing Resources, Inc. 630.530.0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.mrichi.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Archive function?
Outlook does indeed allow the user to archive old email based on cut-off dates. I believe that one can append to the archive file as well (that is, archive things once each month to the archive file). To echo the request, this is something that I'm really missing in Evo. I've been toying with scripting something but the threshold of pain isn't quite there yet :) Gil On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 16:37, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 16:16, Greg Macek wrote: Agreed that the tools are indeed already there to do this myself. I may end up doing something similar to what you describe below. However, having a front-end to this would ease newer users to Evo or Linux for that matter. That's all I'm saying. :-) I thought the concept of archiving was a unix-only thing anyway. I don't know of any Windows clients that actually support it (well, I'm only familiar with the more popular clients - I'm sure somewhere there is a Windows mailer that does this but I don't think Outlook nor Netscape/Mozilla offer this). Jeff On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 12:08, Jean-Marc V. Liotier wrote: On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 18:33, Greg Macek wrote: Are there any plans to implement an Archive function in Evolution? This could really come in handy for people who have years of email (like myself) stored, but rarely access. It would be convenient to have an interface to this, perhaps zipping up the folders you want archived and storing those files wherever you wanted. Then, if/when the time comes you need something, you can un-archive the file back into Evo. - Create a new local account with a maildir or mbox store - Move to this account the messages you want to archive - Deactivate the account - Store away the maildir or mailbox wherever you want. Burning a CD comes to mind. Reading the archived mail is exactly as simple : create a new local account and select your archive as the maildir or mbox store. As a bonus, your archive is readable by anything that can read standard mailbox formats. For example, mutt -f archive_file will open it. The tools you already have can do more than you think. -- Greg Macek | Senior IT Manager Marketing Resources, Inc. 630.530.0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.mrichi.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Evolution] Archive function?
On 17 Sep 2002, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: I thought the concept of archiving was a unix-only thing anyway. I don't know of any Windows clients that actually support it (well, I'm only familiar with the more popular clients - I'm sure somewhere there is a Windows mailer that does this but I don't think Outlook nor Netscape/Mozilla offer this). Outlook, since at least Outlook 98, supports this with Exchange folders. Personally I think it's annoying to have to go looking through a completely different folderspace for old messages, but it's there... --Mark ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Archive function?
On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 15:37, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 16:16, Greg Macek wrote: Agreed that the tools are indeed already there to do this myself. I may end up doing something similar to what you describe below. However, having a front-end to this would ease newer users to Evo or Linux for that matter. That's all I'm saying. :-) I thought the concept of archiving was a unix-only thing anyway. I don't know of any Windows clients that actually support it (well, I'm only familiar with the more popular clients - I'm sure somewhere there is a Windows mailer that does this but I don't think Outlook nor Netscape/Mozilla offer this). Outlook has an Auto_Archive function, and has since 97. -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Archive function?
Le mar 17/09/2002 à 22:37, Jeffrey Stedfast a écrit : On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 16:16, Greg Macek wrote: Agreed that the tools are indeed already there to do this myself. I may end up doing something similar to what you describe below. However, having a front-end to this would ease newer users to Evo or Linux for that matter. That's all I'm saying. :-) I thought the concept of archiving was a unix-only thing anyway. I don't know of any Windows clients that actually support it (well, I'm only familiar with the more popular clients - I'm sure somewhere there is a Windows mailer that does this but I don't think Outlook nor Netscape/Mozilla offer this). Actually I have seen Outlook archiving old mail. It claims it compresses them to gain place on disk. I dunno what actually happens, but that's what it says. ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Archive function?
On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 14:20, Mark Neill wrote: On 17 Sep 2002, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: I thought the concept of archiving was a unix-only thing anyway. I don't know of any Windows clients that actually support it (well, I'm only familiar with the more popular clients - I'm sure somewhere there is a Windows mailer that does this but I don't think Outlook nor Netscape/Mozilla offer this). Outlook, since at least Outlook 98, supports this with Exchange folders. Personally I think it's annoying to have to go looking through a completely different folderspace for old messages, but it's there... If Evo could read gzipped files, this could be accomplished by gzipping archived mail and creating a vfolder with the contents of the active folder plus those of the gzipped folder. Seems like it might be fairly easily done at the back end; as always, the pain is getting the UI right. =] Cheers! --j -- Jim Meyer, Geek At Large[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Archive function?
On Wed, 2002-09-18 at 02:03, Greg Macek wrote: Are there any plans to implement an Archive function in Evolution? This could really come in handy for people who have years of email (like myself) stored, but rarely access. It would be convenient to have an interface to this, perhaps zipping up the folders you want archived and storing those files wherever you wanted. Then, if/when the time comes you need something, you can un-archive the file back into Evo. Has it been requested before? Does it seem viable or a worthwhile addition to anybody? Just an idea... Yes and yes. I dont know if there are any 'plans' as such, but it is something I would like to see available at some point. The idea's i've had have been driven at the camel end. But this is because it would simplify implementation mostly, but it would only work for email. possibly: - another camel provider - manages indices of folders which are kept 'online', but which can be stored/restored from backup media - archival backup procedures (e.g. tar file or just gzip mbox), moving folder to offline archive - restore procedures moving folder from offline to online archive - when online, folder can be used as normal, possibly read-only - normal filtering and operations (perhaps with some added stages) can be used to manage moving files to and from online archives(?) - have archive/restore somewhat configurable. e.g. you could have restore being a wget to a mailing list archive, and backup just deleting the local copy. As usual, the problem is the gui. ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
