Re: [Evolution] Evolution's GPG Behavior
Who would want to impersonate me? Me? Just because it's so easy... Best, Tony ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Evolution's GPG Behavior
fre, 2003-01-03 kl. 13:12 skrev Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Who would want to impersonate me? Me? Just because it's so easy... I used to be mailadmin for 3 different firms ;) Others might believe it, but others are ignorant. Du you know I was offered 32 milion US dollars by a Nigerian general, last week? Should I accept? Best, Tony __ Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 13:55:31 +0100 Received: from spamkill by billy.demon.nl with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 18URMI-000310-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 13:55:30 +0100 Received: from punt-15.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.24]) by billy.demon.nl with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18URMH-0002p1-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 13:55:29 +0100 Received: from punt-17.mail.nl.demon.net by mailstore for [EMAIL PROTECTED] id 1041596606:17:01336:0; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 12:23:26 GMT Received: from relay-12.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.28]) by punt-16.mail.nl.demon.net id aa1607940; 3 Jan 2003 12:23 GMT Received: from [141.154.95.22] (helo=trna.ximian.com) by relay-12.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18UQrF-0003t3-00; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 12:23:25 + Received: from trna.ximian.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by trna.ximian.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h03CEiJ23868; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 07:14:44 -0500 Received: from gluggsi.fortytwo.ch (zux006-044-134.adsl.green.ch [81.6.44.134]) by trna.ximian.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h03CEeJ23845 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 07:14:40 -0500 Received: from altfrangg.fortytwo.ch (altfrangg.fortytwo.ch [192.168.1.17]) by gluggsi.fortytwo.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B6F54BD for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:13:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by altfrangg.fortytwo.ch (Postfix) with SMTP id DAEC57245B for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:09:42 +0100 (CET) Fra: Tony Earnshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Til: evolution-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: [Evolution] Evolution's GPG Behavior -- Tony Earnshaw When all's said and done ... there's nothing left to say or do. e-post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www:http://www.billy.demon.nl ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Evolution's GPG Behavior
I don't understand what you're asking. Jeff On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:18, Bill Hartwell wrote: I thought about what JF had said, and did a quick test of my own. I sent a test message from another account, using Kmail, to this account, which uses Evolution. The results are below. Am I to take it that this is due to the signature being inlined, rather than attached? -Forwarded Message- From: Bill Hartwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test Message Date: 02 Jan 2003 09:08:06 -0700 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Test Message - -- All private email sent with PGP encryption. Email for key. Homepage: http://www.macmanusnet.net/ Freedom in our lifetime: http://www.freestateproject.org Enforce the Bill of Rights: http://www.lneilsmith.com/bor_enforcement.html A July 1993 U.S. Department of Justice study found that boys who own legal firearms ... have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use [than those who obtained them illegally] and are even slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns. It concluded that, for legal gunowners, socialization appears to take place in the family; for illegal gunowners, it appears to take place 'on the street' . - U.S. Department of Justice -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+FGPoAEWCS/G3bx4RAk8OAJ9eJcRYTSumWRKiqMpwY7bMT0WzIQCdE5ym K/CBCqS/JyrWdStsQ7R515E= =3DMW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Evolution's GPG Behavior
Does Evolution not detect in-lined signatures? I would have expected to see Evolution check 2 signatures on this email as there was the attached one and the in-lined one... Incidently, I cannot verify PGP signatures at all because they are in-lined... I believe this is mentioned in the FAQ? On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:25, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: I don't understand what you're asking. Jeff On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:18, Bill Hartwell wrote: I thought about what JF had said, and did a quick test of my own. I sent a test message from another account, using Kmail, to this account, which uses Evolution. The results are below. Am I to take it that this is due to the signature being inlined, rather than attached? -Forwarded Message- From: Bill Hartwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test Message Date: 02 Jan 2003 09:08:06 -0700 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Test Message - -- All private email sent with PGP encryption. Email for key. Homepage: http://www.macmanusnet.net/ Freedom in our lifetime: http://www.freestateproject.org Enforce the Bill of Rights: http://www.lneilsmith.com/bor_enforcement.html A July 1993 U.S. Department of Justice study found that boys who own legal firearms ... have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use [than those who obtained them illegally] and are even slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns. It concluded that, for legal gunowners, socialization appears to take place in the family; for illegal gunowners, it appears to take place 'on the street' . - U.S. Department of Justice -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+FGPoAEWCS/G3bx4RAk8OAJ9eJcRYTSumWRKiqMpwY7bMT0WzIQCdE5ym K/CBCqS/JyrWdStsQ7R515E= =3DMW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- --- Jason H. Frisvold Backbone Engineer Penteledata Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] RedHat Certified - RHCE # 807302349405893 --- Something mysterious is formed, born in the silent void. Waiting alone and unmoving, it is at once still and yet in constant motion. It is the source of all programs. I do not know its name, so I will call it the Tao of Programming. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Evolution] Evolution's GPG Behavior
If I understand what you were saying earlier, email clients (like Kmail) that make the signature a part of the body of the message, rather than a separate attachment, do not understand the signatures that Evolution sends? I just did a personal test to see if the reverse is true as well - that Evolution does not understand a signature if it is included in the body of the message, rather than being a separate attachment. It appears that that is the case, since the message opened in my inbox as you see here, without the indication that it was a signed message. The same happened when I sent myself an encrypted message. It appeared in my inbox encrypted, rather than being transparently decrypted. To verify the signature, or to decrypt the message, I had to copy it and send it to gpg manually. On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 13:25, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: I don't understand what you're asking. Jeff On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:18, Bill Hartwell wrote: I thought about what JF had said, and did a quick test of my own. I sent a test message from another account, using Kmail, to this account, which uses Evolution. The results are below. Am I to take it that this is due to the signature being inlined, rather than attached? -Forwarded Message- From: Bill Hartwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test Message Date: 02 Jan 2003 09:08:06 -0700 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Test Message - -- All private email sent with PGP encryption. Email for key. Homepage: http://www.macmanusnet.net/ Freedom in our lifetime: http://www.freestateproject.org Enforce the Bill of Rights: http://www.lneilsmith.com/bor_enforcement.html A July 1993 U.S. Department of Justice study found that boys who own legal firearms ... have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use [than those who obtained them illegally] and are even slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns. It concluded that, for legal gunowners, socialization appears to take place in the family; for illegal gunowners, it appears to take place 'on the street' . - U.S. Department of Justice -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+FGPoAEWCS/G3bx4RAk8OAJ9eJcRYTSumWRKiqMpwY7bMT0WzIQCdE5ym K/CBCqS/JyrWdStsQ7R515E= =3DMW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Bill Hartwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacManus Enterprises signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Evolution] Evolution's GPG Behavior
yep, your observation would be correct. Jeff On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:43, Bill Hartwell wrote: If I understand what you were saying earlier, email clients (like Kmail) that make the signature a part of the body of the message, rather than a separate attachment, do not understand the signatures that Evolution sends? I just did a personal test to see if the reverse is true as well - that Evolution does not understand a signature if it is included in the body of the message, rather than being a separate attachment. It appears that that is the case, since the message opened in my inbox as you see here, without the indication that it was a signed message. The same happened when I sent myself an encrypted message. It appeared in my inbox encrypted, rather than being transparently decrypted. To verify the signature, or to decrypt the message, I had to copy it and send it to gpg manually. On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 13:25, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: I don't understand what you're asking. Jeff On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:18, Bill Hartwell wrote: I thought about what JF had said, and did a quick test of my own. I sent a test message from another account, using Kmail, to this account, which uses Evolution. The results are below. Am I to take it that this is due to the signature being inlined, rather than attached? -Forwarded Message- From: Bill Hartwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test Message Date: 02 Jan 2003 09:08:06 -0700 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Test Message - -- All private email sent with PGP encryption. Email for key. Homepage: http://www.macmanusnet.net/ Freedom in our lifetime: http://www.freestateproject.org Enforce the Bill of Rights: http://www.lneilsmith.com/bor_enforcement.html A July 1993 U.S. Department of Justice study found that boys who own legal firearms ... have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use [than those who obtained them illegally] and are even slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns. It concluded that, for legal gunowners, socialization appears to take place in the family; for illegal gunowners, it appears to take place 'on the street' . - U.S. Department of Justice -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+FGPoAEWCS/G3bx4RAk8OAJ9eJcRYTSumWRKiqMpwY7bMT0WzIQCdE5ym K/CBCqS/JyrWdStsQ7R515E= =3DMW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Evolution's GPG Behavior
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:37, Jason Frisvold wrote: Does Evolution not detect in-lined signatures? right, evolution doesn't support any form of inline-pgp. we only support PGP/MIME as specificed in http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3156.txt Jeff I would have expected to see Evolution check 2 signatures on this email as there was the attached one and the in-lined one... Incidently, I cannot verify PGP signatures at all because they are in-lined... I believe this is mentioned in the FAQ? On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:25, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: I don't understand what you're asking. Jeff On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:18, Bill Hartwell wrote: I thought about what JF had said, and did a quick test of my own. I sent a test message from another account, using Kmail, to this account, which uses Evolution. The results are below. Am I to take it that this is due to the signature being inlined, rather than attached? -Forwarded Message- From: Bill Hartwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test Message Date: 02 Jan 2003 09:08:06 -0700 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Test Message - -- All private email sent with PGP encryption. Email for key. Homepage: http://www.macmanusnet.net/ Freedom in our lifetime: http://www.freestateproject.org Enforce the Bill of Rights: http://www.lneilsmith.com/bor_enforcement.html A July 1993 U.S. Department of Justice study found that boys who own legal firearms ... have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use [than those who obtained them illegally] and are even slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns. It concluded that, for legal gunowners, socialization appears to take place in the family; for illegal gunowners, it appears to take place 'on the street' . - U.S. Department of Justice -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+FGPoAEWCS/G3bx4RAk8OAJ9eJcRYTSumWRKiqMpwY7bMT0WzIQCdE5ym K/CBCqS/JyrWdStsQ7R515E= =3DMW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Evolution's GPG Behavior
Anything on the roadmap to add inline support? On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:39, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:37, Jason Frisvold wrote: Does Evolution not detect in-lined signatures? right, evolution doesn't support any form of inline-pgp. we only support PGP/MIME as specificed in http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3156.txt Jeff -- --- Jason H. Frisvold Backbone Engineer Penteledata Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] RedHat Certified - RHCE # 807302349405893 --- Something mysterious is formed, born in the silent void. Waiting alone and unmoving, it is at once still and yet in constant motion. It is the source of all programs. I do not know its name, so I will call it the Tao of Programming. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Evolution] Evolution's GPG Behavior
not that I'm aware of. it's also one of those really irritatingly difficult things to add support for. Jeff On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 16:08, Jason Frisvold wrote: Anything on the roadmap to add inline support? On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:39, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:37, Jason Frisvold wrote: Does Evolution not detect in-lined signatures? right, evolution doesn't support any form of inline-pgp. we only support PGP/MIME as specificed in http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3156.txt Jeff -- Jeffrey Stedfast Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Re: [Evolution] Evolution's GPG Behavior
tor, 2003-01-02 kl. 21:46 skrev Jeffrey Stedfast: yep, your observation would be correct. I had so many complaints from Outlook people (the majority of the great unwashed) about GPG signatures, that I've stopped using GPG. It never did any good, anyway - I reckon it's a lost cause. Who would want to impersonate me? The only point to the whole thing, is sending encrypted mail. Never received one of those, yet, either. But I can and do arrange it such my mail server sends TLS to those I wish it to. Best, Tony -- On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:43, Bill Hartwell wrote: If I understand what you were saying earlier, email clients (like Kmail) that make the signature a part of the body of the message, rather than a separate attachment, do not understand the signatures that Evolution sends? I just did a personal test to see if the reverse is true as well - that Evolution does not understand a signature if it is included in the body of the message, rather than being a separate attachment. It appears that that is the case, since the message opened in my inbox as you see here, without the indication that it was a signed message. The same happened when I sent myself an encrypted message. It appeared in my inbox encrypted, rather than being transparently decrypted. To verify the signature, or to decrypt the message, I had to copy it and send it to gpg manually. On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 13:25, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: I don't understand what you're asking. Jeff On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 15:18, Bill Hartwell wrote: I thought about what JF had said, and did a quick test of my own. I sent a test message from another account, using Kmail, to this account, which uses Evolution. The results are below. Am I to take it that this is due to the signature being inlined, rather than attached? -Forwarded Message- From: Bill Hartwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test Message Date: 02 Jan 2003 09:08:06 -0700 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Test Message - -- All private email sent with PGP encryption. Email for key. Homepage: http://www.macmanusnet.net/ Freedom in our lifetime: http://www.freestateproject.org Enforce the Bill of Rights: http://www.lneilsmith.com/bor_enforcement.html A July 1993 U.S. Department of Justice study found that boys who own legal firearms ... have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use [than those who obtained them illegally] and are even slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns. It concluded that, for legal gunowners, socialization appears to take place in the family; for illegal gunowners, it appears to take place 'on the street' . - U.S. Department of Justice -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+FGPoAEWCS/G3bx4RAk8OAJ9eJcRYTSumWRKiqMpwY7bMT0WzIQCdE5ym K/CBCqS/JyrWdStsQ7R515E= =3DMW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Tony Earnshaw When all's said and done ... there's nothing left to say or do. e-post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www:http://www.billy.demon.nl ___ evolution maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
