RE: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-11-30 Thread Ali Akcaagac

On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 23:02, Jason D. Hildebrand wrote:
> There's no reason why the same method wouldn't work for emacs.  I guess I thought 
> that most emacs users run a mail client _inside_ of emacs, and wouldn't 
> be interested in evolution at all.  :)

heh :-)

who want's to run an OS inside a mail client not to count what takes
longer to load.. evolution or emacs :)

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RE: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-11-30 Thread Jason D. Hildebrand

There's no reason why the same method wouldn't work for emacs.  I guess I thought 
that most emacs users run a mail client _inside_ of emacs, and wouldn't 
be interested in evolution at all.  :)

On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 15:30, Jeremy Wise wrote:
> 
>   Big woo... Where's the emacs version?  Why do we need Vi[m] anymore??
> 
>
> Just kidding...  This bonobo thing is getting kinda cool :)  Nice work.
>
> Later,
>
> Jeremy Wise
> GnomeICU Author
>
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeffrey Stedfast
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 4:16 PM
> To: Jason D. Hildebrand
> Cc: Evolution Hackers
> Subject: Re: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for
> evolution
>
>
> Awesome! ;-)
>
> Jeff
>
> On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 15:58, Jason D. Hildebrand wrote:
> > I posted about this a few months ago, and I think I've got something to
> the stage where
> > others may be interested in taking a look.
> >
> > I've created a bonobo component which embeds VIM inside a zvt widget, and
> implements part
> > of the GtkHTML interface.  It works with Evolution (if you hack evolution
> a bit so that knows
> > about gnome-vim).
> >
> > You can check it out at http://www.opensky.ca/gnome-vim
> >
> > I'd be curious to hear what people think about it.
> >
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-11-30 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast

Awesome! ;-)

Jeff

On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 15:58, Jason D. Hildebrand wrote:
> I posted about this a few months ago, and I think I've got something to the stage 
>where
> others may be interested in taking a look.
> 
> I've created a bonobo component which embeds VIM inside a zvt widget, and implements 
>part
> of the GtkHTML interface.  It works with Evolution (if you hack evolution a bit so 
>that knows
> about gnome-vim).
> 
> You can check it out at http://www.opensky.ca/gnome-vim
> 
> I'd be curious to hear what people think about it.
> 
> --
> Jason D. Hildebrand
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> 
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[Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-11-30 Thread Jason D. Hildebrand

I posted about this a few months ago, and I think I've got something to the stage where
others may be interested in taking a look.

I've created a bonobo component which embeds VIM inside a zvt widget, and implements 
part
of the GtkHTML interface.  It works with Evolution (if you hack evolution a bit so 
that knows
about gnome-vim).

You can check it out at http://www.opensky.ca/gnome-vim

I'd be curious to hear what people think about it.

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] Post-1.0 PGP wishlist (was Re: [Evolution]pgp unusable?)

2001-11-30 Thread Dan Winship

> I'm a US citizen, so I don't know if I can contribute code to this
> effort.  But if were legal for me to do so, I'd be more than happy to
> help.

1) The old export restrictions were only on code that performed
cryptography, and wouldn't have affected things like remembering
passwords and deciding who to encrypt to.

2) The rules changed a few years ago. You can hack on opensource crypto
as much as you want.

-- Dan

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[Evolution-hackers] Post-1.0 PGP wishlist (was Re: [Evolution] pgp unusable?)

2001-11-30 Thread Eric Kidd

On Thu, 2001-11-29 at 15:33, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> THIS IS A BUG IN GPG!
> 
> gpg tells us everything went fine, so Evolution has no way of knowing
> that it didn't encrypt to all the recipients we told it to encrypt to,
> thus it's not our fault.

Yuck.  There's actually several of these bugs, probably all in GPG.

1) Mail to people with unsigned keys silently encrypts to the sender
only.
2) Signature verification of unvalidated keys shows a big success icon
(but the accompanying text warns about the problem).
3) I *think* that e-mail to people without keys also encrypts to sender
only.

Anyway, I'm a fairly intensive GPG user, so I have a few features on a
wishlist.  All of these are security-related.

A) The ability to save a passphrase for (say) 10 minutes without saving
it indefinitely.  This lets me read mail without endlessly retyping my
(really long) passphrase, but doesn't allow me to accidentally save it
when I walk away from the computer for a few hours.

B) The ability to encrypt all mail to certain addresses by default. 
There are several people to whom I should *always* encrypt my e-mail,
for security reasons.  But every once in a while, I'll forget to check
the box on the menu.  Very, very bad.

C) The option to encrypt all responses to encrypted e-mail.  If somebody
sent me something encrypted, it's presumably private.  But if Evolution
quotes the original message in my reply, and I forget to check the menu
box, I'm screwed.

I've convinced Mutt to handle case (B) and (C).  But Evolution is much
nicer mailer than Mutt, and I'd like to be able to use it without taking
quite so many security risks.

I'm a US citizen, so I don't know if I can contribute code to this
effort.  But if were legal for me to do so, I'd be more than happy to
help.

Thank you for all your cool PGP-hackery.

Cheers,
Eric


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Re: [Evolution-hackers] to be usable

2001-11-30 Thread Ali Akcaagac

On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 16:44, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> > - why put a "--" before my signature? the signature in my signature file
> >   is my full signature and I don't would like to add an extra line with
> >   2 dash!
> 
> Because this is standard netiquette.  The -- indicates the start of the
> signature.

from what i know its not just netiquette... its also painted in one of
these so called RFC's but don't ask me which one :)

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] to be usable

2001-11-30 Thread Jamin W. Collins

On Wed, 2001-11-28 at 11:36, Levente Farkas wrote:
> what I use. rh 7.2 with ximian gnome (everything from Ximian GNOME Desktop
> and Evolution Snapshot) current verion:
> evolution-0.99.1-snap.ximian.20040858

Latest Evolution RPM build to my knowledge is
evolution-0.99.2-ximian3.i386.rpm

> - why put a "--" before my signature? the signature in my signature file
>   is my full signature and I don't would like to add an extra line with
>   2 dash!

Because this is standard netiquette.  The -- indicates the start of the
signature.

> there are many nice probaly useful feature in evo. but the
> most important to help people to switch to evo. from other mailer. 

I have to disagree.  The most important feature would be stability
followed by standards compliance.  Helping ease a user's switch from
another mailer to Evolution is pure icing on the cake (IMHO).

Jamin W. Collins


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