[Evolution] Bug in Evolution Exchange 2.21.90/changed password
Hello I just created a bug[1] in Bugzilla about a problem I got after upgrading to Evolution 2.21.90 and changing my password. Does anyone have a tip for a workaround? I have tried starting without a network connection to really get it in offline mode but I cannot get it to online mode because of a bug in Evo-exchange. It just says it cannot find my mailhost (even though my network is back to normal). 1. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=513646 Thanks... ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Applying filters automatically.
OK, maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I think I'm following the directions correctly and what I want still isn't happening. Maybe someone here can point out the issue. I'm using Evolution 2.12.1 for Ubuntu 64. I get a bunch of mail that I want to process automatically. For example, I get e-mails informing of every checkin to our SVN repository, updates on our continuous integration process, and so on. All of these I want to go to appropriate folders with zero action from me. I don't even want to be told that I have mail when I get these things. I do this routinely with other e-mail programs. So, I set up filters to match on the appropriate conditions and send them to the appropriate folders. I test the filters using ^Y and yes they match the messages and does what I want to them. In the Account Editor under Receiving options I check Apply filters to new messages in INBOX. And nothing happens. They still sit there, placidly filling up my inbox and requiring me to type ^A^Y to make them go away. Am I missing something here? What should I do to make the filters trigger on new mail without user intervention? -Steve ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Add new contact by programming
Hello On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 09:40 +1100, Daniel Kasak wrote: On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 17:52 +0530, ritz wrote: Is it possible to add a contact by programming(python) Probably this may help http://www.conduit-project.org/wiki/evolution-python Nice :) I don't suppose you know if a similar Perl interface exists? Nope :( , afaik . -- Daniel Kasak IT Developer NUS Consulting Group Level 5, 77 Pacific Highway North Sydney, NSW, Australia 2060 T: (+61) 2 9922-7676 / F: (+61) 2 9922 7989 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: http://www.nusconsulting.com.au -- Ritesh Khadgaray ॐ मणि पद्मे हूँ Desktop LinuX N Stuff Ph: +919970164885 Eat Right, Exercise, Die Anyway. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Applying filters automatically.
On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 18:03 +, Pete Biggs wrote: Remember 'New' != 'Unread' - if something else (like a mail notifier or another email app) is seeing the email before Evo, then it is no longer 'New'. This is an IMAP function and nothing to do with Evo - Evo just asks the IMAP server What's new? and acts on the results. OK, I'll bite ;-) Evolution seems to take an incredibly sensitive view of what is 'New'. The other mailers I have used will filter messages automatically using the IMAP server at my institution, but Evolution flatly refuses. I appreciate that Evo might be doing things properly, but if that stops it working for the user, isn't that taking it a bit far? In my case, our University computing people changed the IMAP software to Dovecot recently. They use the 'snarf' Dovecot plugin to copy the mail from the mail spool to the users IMAP INBOX when the INBOX is polled for new messages. Overnight this stopped Evo from filtering my messages automatically, but Thunderbird for example works as it did before they made this change, and continues to filter the messages automatically. G I see you're using a gmail address - if you are downloading your email from google using IMAP, then I can well imagine that something in the google system is 'seeing' your email before you do. P. On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 09:42 -0700, Steve Karmesin wrote: OK, maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I think I'm following the directions correctly and what I want still isn't happening. Maybe someone here can point out the issue. I'm using Evolution 2.12.1 for Ubuntu 64. I get a bunch of mail that I want to process automatically. For example, I get e-mails informing of every checkin to our SVN repository, updates on our continuous integration process, and so on. All of these I want to go to appropriate folders with zero action from me. I don't even want to be told that I have mail when I get these things. I do this routinely with other e-mail programs. So, I set up filters to match on the appropriate conditions and send them to the appropriate folders. I test the filters using ^Y and yes they match the messages and does what I want to them. In the Account Editor under Receiving options I check Apply filters to new messages in INBOX. And nothing happens. They still sit there, placidly filling up my inbox and requiring me to type ^A^Y to make them go away. Am I missing something here? What should I do to make the filters trigger on new mail without user intervention? -Steve ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% Dr. Gavin Simpson [t] +44 (0)20 7679 0522 ECRC, UCL Geography, [f] +44 (0)20 7679 0565 Pearson Building, [e] gavin.simpsonATNOSPAMucl.ac.uk Gower Street, London [w] http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucfagls/ UK. WC1E 6BT. [w] http://www.freshwaters.org.uk %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Applying filters automatically.
On Feb 1, 2008 11:15 AM, Gavin Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 18:03 +, Pete Biggs wrote: Remember 'New' != 'Unread' - [snip] Evolution seems to take an incredibly sensitive view of what is 'New'. The other mailers I have used will filter messages automatically using the IMAP server at my institution, but Evolution flatly refuses. [snip] Glad to hear I'm not the only one suffering from this. I would very much prefer the Thunderbird style behavior, and this one thing may be enough to send me back there, in spite of not having the calendar, tasks, notes, etc. I'm connecting to an Exchange server and I'm connecting via IMAP. Anybody know if using the Exchange connection works better for this? -Steve ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Applying filters automatically.
On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 18:15 +, Gavin Simpson wrote: On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 18:03 +, Pete Biggs wrote: Remember 'New' != 'Unread' - if something else (like a mail notifier or another email app) is seeing the email before Evo, then it is no longer 'New'. This is an IMAP function and nothing to do with Evo - Evo just asks the IMAP server What's new? and acts on the results. OK, I'll bite ;-) Evolution seems to take an incredibly sensitive view of what is 'New'. The other mailers I have used will filter messages automatically using the IMAP server at my institution, but Evolution flatly refuses. I appreciate that Evo might be doing things properly, but if that stops it working for the user, isn't that taking it a bit far? Depends. To get a list of the 'new' messages (i.e. mail received since the imap server was last polled), all it needs is an imap command saying 'give me a list of the new messages', then it just downloads those messages. To do anything else needs Evo to download every single message header/flags and possibly body. That's fine if you have 30 or 40 messages in your inbox - but when you have a couple of thousand, it takes time. And yes, you do have to download them all because you never know what other application has changed a message to now make it eligible for filtering. Sure it can be annoying, but doing things another way can be annoying to other people. If all mail programs did everything exactly the same way, it wouldn't matter what you use. In my case, our University computing people changed the IMAP software to Dovecot recently. They use the 'snarf' Dovecot plugin to copy the mail from the mail spool to the users IMAP INBOX when the INBOX is polled for new messages. Overnight this stopped Evo from filtering my messages automatically, but Thunderbird for example works as it did before they made this change, and continues to filter the messages automatically. I don't know about the snarf plugin, but I use Dovecot without any problems on my servers - as does our University mail servers. To me, it seems like a bug with the 'snarf' plugin if its not reporting as 'new' things that actually are. P. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Applying filters automatically.
On Feb 1, 2008 1:58 PM, Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This issue comes up every week or two on the list, it seems. It's obvious that Evolution is not behaving as people expect, regardless of the technical details behind it. In situations like that we MUST either (a) fix the behavior to work as expected as much as possible, OR (b) document the situation so people can understand what's going on! I would vote for A. Just doing B would mean that I can quickly find out that I don't want to use Evolution, which is an improvement over the current situation, but I need A for Evolution to be useful to me. Thunderbird does the expected thing and without a performance impact. I strongly suspect that it just uses different logic than relying on the server to tell it if the mail is new. If you're downloading a message for the first time and it is unread, then apply the filters. Or something very similar to that. If the server new flag can be turned off by a e-mail notifier program, then it is just not the flag you want to use for this purpose. Sure, it would be nice and convenient if there was a simple flag like that to check, but there isn't. So do what all the other programs do. -Steve ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Applying filters automatically.
On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 15:58 -0500, Paul Smith wrote: This issue comes up every week or two on the list, it seems. It's obvious that Evolution is not behaving as people expect, regardless of the technical details behind it. In situations like that we MUST either (a) fix the behavior to work as expected as much as possible, OR (b) document the situation so people can understand what's going on! Agreed. I think A sounds best since B wouldn't help me very much. I suffer from this every day that I have to filter messages manually because I have maybe read my email from a webmail client. Can't Evolution just filter messages that is new to Evolution (not caring about the status on the IMAP serer or other server). Rgds, Thomas Novin ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Proposal for new feature
On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 14:41 -0700, Chris Worley wrote: I am personally disgusted by the top-post style of Outlook users. It makes sure they only answer one question, and which question they answered (or what point you made that they responded to) is ambiguous. I cannot see promoting that barrier to communication. You're missing the point. If let's say you are five people in a email discussion at your workplace and everyone but you use Outlook, you can't really switch the style of the email each time you reply. No matter what you think is right, if that's the standard, you need to follow it. Right now I have my Evo at my work computer set to Outlook style and since it's such a nuisance to change it, I hardly ever do. So if this feature existed you would actually get rid of Outlook style replies, not get more of them. Today, because I'm lazy, I often reply to non-Outlook users with Outlook style replies because it's the easiest way. Rgds, Thomas ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Applying filters automatically.
And we haven't even touched on the issue of multiple clients for the same server/account (say you read your mail from home and also from work), or what happens if your local cache is lost or corrupted. And that's the killer for me. I have 3 Evo clients I use regularly (work, home, laptop) and a plethora of other things that I use when necessary (Thunderbird on XP, webmail, outlook occasionally). Two of my Evo clients have full filtering setup, one has partial filtering, the other clients obviously don't. It would be a real pain if my Evo instances filtered things that each one hadn't seen before rather than just 'new' mail. The only way I can see it happening is if Evo puts a custom flag into the mail saying 'this mail has been filtered by Evo already' - but that breaks my two-tier filtering: minimal on some clients with full filtering on one. I may be peculiar in my setup, but I would be mightily peeved if Evo was 'broken' to mimic what other mail clients do! BUT - I do think it needs to be sorted out - I regularly answer this same question on the list and it is clearly not intuitive to people. It may be an issue with particular IMAP clients or particular combinations of setups, but it does need to be documented. P. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
