Re: [Evolution] backup/resore problem with contacts
El sáb, 13-10-2012 a las 22:20 +0200, Martin Wiebusch escribió: I used the tool und File - Back up/Restore evolution data for a full back up. After re-installing my system and restoring my Evolution data some of my contacts were missing. Specifically, I had a second address book in addition to the default Personal address book. The address book re-appeared after the restore, but it was empty. Then I tried to manually move around the addressbook.db file and noticed that the contacts displayed in Evolution seem to have absolutely nothing to do with the contents of the .evolution/addressbook folder. Where does Evolution keep its address books these days? Best regards, Martin. ___ Hello! It happened to me too. What I found, as a workaround, is to save the addresbook as a VCard file. Later, when I restore my data I also open the VCard with Evolution. Hope this works Lailah signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] bug re Message menu item
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 05:32 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 20:58 -0400, Carpetnailz wrote: On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 19:00 -0500, dbrenner wrote: On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 19:45 -0400, Carpetnailz wrote: When I click on the Message menu item in Evo (3.4.4 on Fedora 17), instead of opening the menu, it opens a new message. The only way I can get the Message menu dropdown to open is to remember to click-and-hold the mouse button down until it opens. This seems contrary to how menu items always work, in my experience. Is this a feature or a bug? Thanks. Not a feature or a bug. I am running Evo 3.4.4 on Fedora 17. Menu Message item works as expected for me. I do see occasional mouse click anomalies but not strictly with Evo. I haven't seen anything like this. [openSUSE 12.2 x86_64 i915 Evolution 3.6.0]. So why is it happening? I've re-installed evo twice, once with add/remove software and once with yum. Makes no difference. Why do you think adding and removing the packages(s) will do anything? And whatever front end you use adding and removing is the exact same thing. This won't change anything. If you are concerned the files from a package are damaged you can use --verify to check them; if it reports nothing the files are identical to when they were installed. And adding and removing a package doesn't remove your configuration or setup - which is far more likely to be the source of a problem than the binaries. awilliam@linux-nysu:~ rpm --verify evolution awilliam@linux-nysu:~ rpm --verify evolution-data-server awilliam@linux-nysu:~ rpm -q evolution evolution-3.6.0-200.3.x86_64 None of these return any problems. But issues with mouse clicks, etc... are probably from below evolution [like in X, your video driver, or Gtk]. How would that affect just one menu button in the app and nothing else? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] bug re Message menu item
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 08:43 -0400, Carpetnailz wrote: So why is it happening? I've re-installed evo twice, once with add/remove software and once with yum. Makes no difference. Why do you think adding and removing the packages(s) will do anything? And whatever front end you use adding and removing is the exact same thing. This won't change anything. If you are concerned the files from a package are damaged you can use --verify to check them; if it reports nothing the files are identical to when they were installed. And adding and removing a package doesn't remove your configuration or setup - which is far more likely to be the source of a problem than the binaries. awilliam@linux-nysu:~ rpm --verify evolution awilliam@linux-nysu:~ rpm --verify evolution-data-server awilliam@linux-nysu:~ rpm -q evolution evolution-3.6.0-200.3.x86_64 None of these return any problems. Then there is no problem with the installed packages. But issues with mouse clicks, etc... are probably from below evolution [like in X, your video driver, or Gtk]. How would that affect just one menu button in the app and nothing else? It hasn't affected anything else *you have noticed*. It is interesting that compose new message is the first/top item in the menu [vertically] and that is the action invoked rather than opening the menu. It could be a bug in the translation strings, or the UI builder code, etc... Modern systems are extremely complex and have a lot of interrelated parts - very specific corner cases can appear. When thinking about a bug it is better to just avoid even thinking in terms of any, all, none, every and to avoid assuming a cause as they will only obscure the attempt to find the actual cause. For instance every message I've tested vs. every message. This is a very useful rule that really does help avoid trapping yourself mentally [which is something I watch people debugging problems do to themselves *all the time*]. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] bug re Message menu item
But issues with mouse clicks, etc... are probably from below evolution [like in X, your video driver, or Gtk]. How would that affect just one menu button in the app and nothing else? You never said it was ONLY that one menu! Do you see any other oddities in the way the mouse clicking works either in Evolution itself or in any other application? Can you get the Message drop down menu by doing Alt-M ? P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] bug re Message menu item
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 22:57 -0200, Lailah wrote: El jue, 11-10-2012 a las 20:58 -0400, Carpetnailz escribió: On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 19:00 -0500, dbrenner wrote: On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 19:45 -0400, Carpetnailz wrote: When I click on the Message menu item in Evo (3.4.4 on Fedora 17), instead of opening the menu, it opens a new message. The only way I can get the Message menu dropdown to open is to remember to click-and-hold the mouse button down until it opens. This seems contrary to how menu items always work, in my experience. Is this a feature or a bug? Thanks. Not a feature or a bug. I am running Evo 3.4.4 on Fedora 17. Menu Message item works as expected for me. I do see occasional mouse click anomalies but not strictly with Evo. Dan So why is it happening? I've re-installed evo twice, once with add/remove software and once with yum. Makes no difference. ___ Hello! Re-installing won't change anything. I presumed that re-installing would also re-do any relevant config files. Apparently that is not the case. Did you try sending to trash the evolution folder? Do that, close your session and open it again. See if problem is still here. I don't see an evolution folder, except for .local/share/evolution, which contains all my data. I should trash that? Did you try with a brand-new user, totally empty of configuration? Tried this, got the same result: single-clicking on the Message menu item just opens a new email message rather than opening the sub-menu. Hope this helps... Lailah ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] bug re Message menu item
I presumed that re-installing would also re-do any relevant config files. Apparently that is not the case. Nope, never, it does not work that way. Application installation / de-installation is a *system* operation. Application configuration is a *user* operation. The package neither knows nor cares anything at all about any user's configuration. This is a feature, not a bug. It is a glorious wonderful and please-gods-why-cannot-windows-work-this-way feature. This is different than installation / deinstallation of a *service* like Apache, Postfix, etc... where the configuration is a system thing [there is one configuration - used by the service - to provide services to the system]. Although even in that case RPM installation / deinstallation will usually refuse to remove or overwrite configuration files. Again, feature, not a bug. Did you try sending to trash the evolution folder? Do that, close your session and open it again. See if problem is still here. I don't see an evolution folder, except for .local/share/evolution, which contains all my data. I should trash that? NO! Did you try with a brand-new user, totally empty of configuration? Tried this, got the same result: single-clicking on the Message menu item just opens a new email message rather than opening the sub-menu. Hope this helps... Yep, that is always a good test. Keep a dummy user account around for such purposes. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] bug re Message menu item
On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 19:45 -0400, Carpetnailz wrote: When I click on the Message menu item in Evo (3.4.4 on Fedora 17), instead of opening the menu, it opens a new message. The only way I can get the Message menu dropdown to open is to remember to click-and-hold the mouse button down until it opens. This seems contrary to how menu items always work, in my experience. Before this thread drags on much further, it's worth pointing out that Evolution uses stock GTK+ menu widgets in its main menu. Evolution does not control the placement of the pop-up menu, nor the way it responds to clicks. That's all handled by GTK+. The fact that you're getting a new composer window when clicking on the Message menu is likely related to the fact that Compose New Message is the first item in that menu, and GTK+ may be positioning the pop-up menu over top of the main menu due to screen size constraints (it is a large menu, after all). That would mean the Compose New Message item is directly underneath where you just clicked to open the Message menu. GTK+ recently switched from the XInput framework to XInput2, and there were some bumps along the way. To me, the behavior you describe sounds like another bump. I would advise waiting for Fedora 18 and re-testing, and if the problem is still present then file a bug against GTK+. Matthew Barnes ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] bug re Message menu item
On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 09:41 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 19:45 -0400, Carpetnailz wrote: When I click on the Message menu item in Evo (3.4.4 on Fedora 17), instead of opening the menu, it opens a new message. The only way I can get the Message menu dropdown to open is to remember to click-and-hold the mouse button down until it opens. This seems contrary to how menu items always work, in my experience. Before this thread drags on much further, it's worth pointing out that Evolution uses stock GTK+ menu widgets in its main menu. Evolution does not control the placement of the pop-up menu, nor the way it responds to clicks. That's all handled by GTK+. The fact that you're getting a new composer window when clicking on the Message menu is likely related to the fact that Compose New Message is the first item in that menu, and GTK+ may be positioning the pop-up menu over top of the main menu due to screen size constraints (it is a large menu, after all). That would mean the Compose New Message item is directly underneath where you just clicked to open the Message menu. GTK+ recently switched from the XInput framework to XInput2, and there were some bumps along the way. To me, the behavior you describe sounds like another bump. I would advise waiting for Fedora 18 and re-testing, and if the problem is still present then file a bug against GTK+. Matthew Barnes That sounds plausible. It's not a problem I can't live with, after all. Let's wait and see. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] addressbook: Berkely DB `addressbook.db` and Sqlite3 DB `contacts.db`
On Fri, 2012-09-21 at 16:29 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: looking at the addressbooks there are two databases. $ file ~/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system/contacts.db /home/joe/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system/contacts.db: SQLite 3.x database $ file ~/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system/addressbook.db /home/joe/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system/addressbook.db: Berkeley DB (Hash, version 8, native byte-order) Both seem to have been accessed recently. So I wonder why two databases are needed. Hi, the SQLite DB is used as a summary, mainly for searching, though it also allows to store contacts there. The Berkeley DB is used for contact storing, for local books. It used to be this way before too, only instead of the SQLite DB was used a binary (XML) file. There will be used only one DB, one day (means doing migration from Berkeley DB to SQLite and use only SQLite). Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Please, need help!!!!
On Sun, 2012-09-23 at 15:19 -0700, Jeffrey Needle wrote: I have a total of five address books created, all as local on my computer. When I import a vcard file into one of the address books, the addresses show up in all five books! Nothing I can do keeps this from happening. Hi, I recall some similar bug being fixed in the code, I just do not recall in which version it was, or any other details about the solution/cause, unfortunately. The current stable (3.6.1 being released today, or 3.4.4, doesn't suffer of this for sure). I believe the Ubuntu maintainers would be able to search for the corresponding bug report at https://bugzilla.gnome.org Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Some questions as a new Evolution user
On Thu, 2012-10-04 at 12:19 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: You can re-order the mail accounts within the preferences window and that affects the order in which they are displayed in the folder tree. Don't know if it works for calendars though. Hi, it cannot be done in Calendar view, see: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=442398 Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] synchro caldav
On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 07:24 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: One of my goals for the near term is to get rid of the Path: field for CalDAV, such that all available calendars are added automatically when setting up a CalDAV account. Hence the split from a single URL field. Hi, I told you to not do that and gave you a valid reason for not doing so, didn't I? [1] The right change is to not split the path, but return the editing to the way it was in 3.4.x- (one entry for the full URL, like in webcal). Bye, Milan [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=680244 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
