Re: [Evolution] infinitive wait for network events

2013-07-09 Thread Eugene 
I upgraded to 3.8.3 with F19 and network timeout problems got even worse.

Marking mailbox as "copy folder locally for offline operation" stopped taking 
any effect whatsoever.
No message with attachments is loading, staying on "Retrieving message 
'nn'" forever. The same message has already been loaded previously with 
3.6.4. Did local storage format change?

Eugene.

07.05.2013, 21:25, "Adam Tauno Williams" :
> On Tue, 2013-05-07 at 21:51 -0400, Eugene wrote:
>
>>  On 05/06/2013 05:51 AM, Pete Biggs wrote:
  For many releases, including the latest in Fedora 18
>>>  Please give version numbers for Evolution, not the distro you use - not
>>>  everyone uses the same distro so they don't know which versions you are
>>>  talking about.
>>  F18 is 3.6.4
  I've noticing that evolution does not handle network delays properly.
  It will spin in wait state indefinitely. Please see included
  screenshot. I wonder how to diagnose and prevent infinitive waits. The
  only way to end the process is to to brute force kill signals.
>>>  This has been talked about before on this list.  Yes, it is a known
>>>  issue, but I seem to remember that the solution requires some other work
>>>  to be done first.  My experience of the issue is that many of the
>>>  problems stem from looking up contacts on a remote service (so that Evo
>>>  can decide if it's going to try and display images from the network) -
>>>  it's not the LDAP code itself that's the problem, more the type of
>>>  traffic that LDAP generates.  So try enabling "Never load images from
>>>  the Internet" (you can always explicitly load them with Ctrl-I) to see
>>>  if it makes it any better.
>>  If it is a well known problem I am surprised it is not yet fixed.
>
> I believe it is fixed, but not on your version [which is not the current
> version]. 3.6.x certainly had some connection management issues, at
> least with HTML messages, and especially behind a proxy server.  I have
> not need these issues on 3.8.x.
>
>>  Not sure about LDAP but load images is not enabled.
>
> I do not recall ever seeing connection issues regarding LDAP.
>
>>   Regardless, if any
>>  network operation takes more then reasonable time it should either abort
>>  itself or allow user to abort it.
>
> Agree.
>
>>  Main reason I started this thread is to seek diagnostic help as I
>>  clearly stated in my question. I apologize if inline attachment caused
>>  problems.
>
> It didn't cause any problems, and was fine by me.  There are just some
> people here you are grumpy about attachments [although they use an
> excellent mail client that handles them gracefully ;) ].
>
>>  I've been using evolution since early betas and the only reason I still
>>  on it because sometimes I must use "redirect" feature that is missing in
>>  thunderbird. But amount of daily problems caused by unhanded timeouts
>>  and other glitches makes me question myself if fighting constant issues
>>  really worth the trouble
>
> If you see constant connection issues and loading of messages for HTML
> messages is disabled... I suspect there might be something else wrong in
> addition.  It was annoying in 3.6.x, but certainly not debilitating.
> Any chance there is an overloaded NAT involved that is prematurely
> terminating your connections? [Die NAT Die!  All hail IPv6, our
> deliverer!]
>
> Have your tried running with CAMEL_DEBUG enabled and see if that
> enlightens you about anything
> ?
>
> But, seriously, 3.8.x is a *MUCH* better Evolution.  3.6.x Evolution and
> GNOME were pretty good. 3.8.x is excellent and very solid.  I know
> nothing about Fedora [at this point you would have to drag me away from
> openSUSE in chains - it just @*&$&*@^&* WORKS!] but certainly they
> provide some reasonable way to update to the latest  * * *STABLE* * *
> version of GNOME.
>
> Did I mention that 3.8.x is the current * * *STABLE* * * version of
> GNOME. If I didn't, I should have.
>
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Re: [Evolution] infinitive wait for network events

2013-07-09 Thread Pete Biggs 

> I upgraded to 3.8.3 with F19 and network timeout problems got even worse.
> 
> Marking mailbox as "copy folder locally for offline operation" stopped
> taking any effect whatsoever.
> No message with attachments is loading, staying on "Retrieving message
> 'nn'" forever. 

Have you followed the debugging hints at 

  https://projects.gnome.org/evolution/bugs.shtml

Running Evo from the command line with CAMEL_DEBUG=all might give you
sufficient hints as to where the problem is.  Alternatively, getting a
backtrace when Evo is stuck will give those that know about such things
sufficient info to tell you what it is doing at the time.

P.

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[Evolution] SMITHSONIAN ADMITS IT WAS A SCAM.

2013-07-09 Thread Aldous Huxley 

 >BREAKING NEWS!

 >
AFTER 42 YEARS OF A CONSTANT STRUGGLE BETWEEN REALITY AND MYTH; FACT V.
FICTION, GREED V. TRUTH, THE SMITHSONIAN FINALLY DROPPED IT`S ASININE
RELIGION. AFTER HEARING THAT MAN IS OLDER THAN COAL, AND THE SMITHSONIAN
IS NOTHING BUT A SCAM TO SILENCE THE TRUTH.
 >
SMITHSONIAN SPOKESMAN RICHARD DAWKINS HAD THIS TO SAY, WHILE FILING FOR
BANKRUPTCY:

Dammit. I never thought this will happen. Burn the books everybody.
 >
THRINAXODON HAS RECENTLY FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE SMITHSONIAN FOR
YEARS OF SUPPRESSION OF VALID RESEARCH.
 >
RICHARD LEAKEY IS BURSTING IN TEARS AS ALL HIS "SPECIMENS" ARE TURNING
INTO RUBBLE. HE SAID, "This brings me great money!!!"
 >
Donate to Thrinaxodon via email at biol...@gmail.com.
===
BASTARDS THAT WENT BANKRUPT:


 Anthropological Association of Ireland (AAI)
 Anthropology Southern Africa (ASnA)
 Association of Social Anthropologists UK & Commonwealth (ASA)
 European Association of Social Anthropologists (EASA)
 International Association for Southeast European Anthropology (InASEA)
 International Society for Ethnology and Folklore / Société
Internationale d´Ethnologie et de Folklore (SIEF)
 International Union of Anthropological and Ethnological Sciences
(IUAES)
 Latin American Association / Asociación Latinoamericana de
Antropología (ALA)
 Pan African Anthropology Association (PAAA)
 Wenner-Gren Foundation for Anthropological Research

Members: National associations

 ArgentinaArgentina (Colegio de Graduados en Antropología de la
República Argentina - CGA)
 Australia Australia (Australian Anthopological Society - AAS)
 BrazilBrazil (Associaçõ Brasileira de Antropologia - ABA)
 CanadaCanada (Canadian Anthropology Society / Société canadienne
anthropologie - CASCA)
 Czech RepublicCzech Republic (Czech Association for Social
Anthropology - CASA)
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- AFEA)
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 France France (Association pour la Recherche en Anthropologie
Sociale - APRAS)
 GermanyGermany (Deutsche Gesellschaft für Völkerkunde - DGV)
 Hong KongHong Kong (Hong Kong Anthropological Society - HKAS)
 India India (Indian Anthropological Association - IAA)
 IndiaIndia (Indian Anthropological Society, Calcutta)
 IsraelIsrael (Israeli Anthropological Association - IAA)
 ItalyItaly (Istituto Italiano di Antropologia - ISItA)
 Japan Japan (Japanese Society of Cultural Anthropology - JASCA)
 LatviaLatvia (Latvijas Antropologu Biedriba - LAB)
 Mexico Mexico (Colegio de Etnólogos y Antropólogos Sociales - CEAS)
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New Zealand/Aoteroa - ASA-NZ)
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 phillipinesPhilippines (Anthropological Association of the
Philippines / Ugnayang Pang-Aghamtao, Inc - UGAT)
 Poland Poland (Polskie Towarszystwo Ludoznawcze / Polish
Ethnological Society - PTL)
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Ethnologists - RAEE)
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L’Association Tunisienne d’Anthropologie - TAA)
 UKUK (Royal Anthropological Institute - RAI)
 USUSA (American Anthropological Association – AAA)
===
EVIDENCE THAT HUMANS LIVED IN THE DEVONIAN:

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.bio.paleontology/browse_thread/thread/6f501c469c7af24f#

https://groups.google.com/group/sci.bio.paleontology/browse_thread/thread/3aad75c16afb0b82#



http://thrinaxodon.wordpress.com/

===

THRINAXODON ONLY HAD THIS TO SAY:

"I..I...I...Can't believe it. This completely disproved Darwinian
orthodoxy."

===

THE BASTARDS AT THE SMITHSONIAN, AND THE LEAKEY FOUNDATION ARE ERODING
WITH FEAR.

===

THRINAXODON IS NOW ON TWITTER.
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[Evolution] My evolution has gone crazy

2013-07-09 Thread Aaron Konstam 
For t second time my evolution has gone crazy.
First for the second time all my  all my contacts have disappeared. 
Second, in the upper right corner there is no icon for going to extended
display. 

How can this be fixed?


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Re: [Evolution] SMITHSONIAN ADMITS IT WAS A SCAM.

2013-07-09 Thread Andre Klapper 
On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 17:46 -0400, Aldous Huxley wrote:
>  >BREAKING NEWS!

Thanks for subscribing to the Evolution mailing list an hour ago, but
your posting is very offtopic, so I've reverted your decision.
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list describes that
Evolution is an email software application.

Good luck with spamming somewhere else,
andre
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Re: [Evolution] My evolution has gone crazy

2013-07-09 Thread Andre Klapper 
On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 09:10 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> First for the second time all my  all my contacts have disappeared. 

Some basic info about address book types etc is welcome, plus checking
if you have a search view enabled.

> Second, in the upper right corner there is no icon for going to extended
> display. 

I don't know what extended display is. Maximizing a window? Whatever it
is, that's likely not controlled by Evolution itself.

andre
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[Evolution] Replying to spam

2013-07-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf 
Andre, it's better, if we don't reply to spam, to enable easier and more
secure filtering of junk mails. This btw. is the reason that I reply by
a new mail, IOW with a new thread inside the mail's header.

Regards,
Ralf

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