Re: [Evolution] [Evolution-hackers] [Old Version 2.28] Tasks: Prevent Ctrl-X in search box to accidentally delete tasks, For what it's worth: My comprehensive set of patches for ancient 2.28
Am Montag, den 19.08.2013, 11:05 +0200 schrieb Thomas Mittelstaedt: Am Montag, den 19.08.2013, 07:51 +0200 schrieb Milan Crha: On Fri, 2013-08-16 at 22:50 +0200, Thomas Mittelstaedt wrote: I don't know if this works cleanly in the newest versions. But in my ancient version, doing a search by entering a term in the search box, selecting a piece of text of that search string and hitting Ctrl-x would result in the currently selected task to be deleted. And Ctrl-v would not bring it back. I inserted a little crutch in my old version to simply disable the cut command and that worked. See attached diff. Hi, as I replied to one of your previous emails, please use bugzilla for issues and patches, the mailing list is not a place where these should be added, at least not for evolution-hackers. All right, Milan. I created an enhancement bug report at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=706287 And to quote from that report: For what it's worth: My comprehensive set of patches for ancient 2.28 version. (edit) Product: Evolution Component: Tasks Version: 2.28.x Status: UNCONFIRMED Priority: Normal Severity: enhancement Collapse All Comments - Expand All Comments [reply] [-] Description Thomas [reporter] 2013-08-19 09:02:07 UTC Created an attachment (id=252183) [details] Set of patches Just for completeness: I have reached a very nice level of stability and user satisfaction with this old, ancient version of evolution, which I use on an ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) box. Over time I applied several patches, fixes of simple safety checks in response to crashes to this version and I thought, I upload it as an enhancement bug report, if somebody may be interested. I use a Software called stacked git (stg) to apply these series of patches. Naming convention of these patches is issue_number_... . This hints at a concrete bug report in bugzilla and should be reachable with the following url: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=number. I also uploaded my build script and the script I use to run the application. -- thomas ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Exchange Server 2008
[cut] from that thread, as you use Outlook 2003, [cut] It is very old thread, at present I use Outlook 2010 with Exchange 2010. I have also attached screen shot, which is recent, and it shows that outlook 2010 needs proxy field filled. I will ask my Exchange admins what type of connection (EWS/MAPI) our outlook 2010 uses. [cut] Even if it would do, I need to use proxy only for this particular email server. Others need regular internet connection. True. It might be good to try. Good to see that you understand my point of view. Will there be, in future, an optional field to input proxy address only for EWS accounts? By the way, if I'm not mistaken, the EWS has also its special public address to be reachable from the outer network. Yes I know, I have already connected through that address pretending to be mobile phone client, but I would like to use intranet connection, as it is much faster. -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Google calendars stopped working in Evolution
I have Evolution 2.28.3 (the version that comes with RHEL 6), and earlier this year, I added a couple of Google calendars to it (with New=Calendar=Type: Google). This worked fine. Very recently (about two weeks ago), this stopped working. Evolution will not show the Google calendars anymore. If I click on one of them, the status bar at the bottom will say Opening caldav://myusername%40gmail@www.google.com/calendar/dav/myusern...@gmail.com/events (...) for a very long time, but nothing will show up. Eventually, the checkbox for showing the calendar will be deselected. I am pretty sure I have the right password for the Google account, because if I right-click the calender, select Properties, Retrieve list, and give the password, then I will get the list of available calendars for the account. Is this a known problem, or have I done something wrong? -- Regards, Bjørn-Helge Mevik, dr. scient, Department for Research Computing, University of Oslo ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Exchange Server 2008
On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 11:59 +0200, Patryk Benderz wrote: True. It might be good to try. Good to see that you understand my point of view. Will there be, in future, an optional field to input proxy address only for EWS accounts? Hi, preferably if you could file a bug at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=evolution-ews and the best if you would be able to compile some test patches (though see below). By the way, if I'm not mistaken, the EWS has also its special public address to be reachable from the outer network. Yes I know, I have already connected through that address pretending to be mobile phone client, but I would like to use intranet connection, as it is much faster. I'm afraid this is the EWS way of going through proxy. I'd say ask the admins and then decide based on their reply. They might tell you both whether Outlook 2010 uses MAPI or EWS, and what the EWS connection point is if you go through the proxy. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Google calendars stopped working in Evolution
On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 12:25 +0200, Bjørn-Helge Mevik wrote: Very recently (about two weeks ago), this stopped working. Evolution will not show the Google calendars anymore. If I click on one of them, the status bar at the bottom will say Opening caldav://myusername%40gmail@www.google.com/calendar/dav/myusern...@gmail.com/events (...) for a very long time, but nothing will show up. Eventually, the checkbox for showing the calendar will be deselected. I am pretty sure I have the right password for the Google account, because if I right-click the calender, select Properties, Retrieve list, and give the password, then I will get the list of available calendars for the account. Is this a known problem, or have I done something wrong? Hi, I'm not aware of any issue of this type with Google calendars, and I do not expect you did anything wrong, though please make sure you have checked to use SSL (secure connection) with the Google server (I do not know how it's named in your ancient version). I believe you can verify what the CalDAV calendars try to do when you run the evolution-data-server from a console like this: $ CALDAV_DEBUG=all /usr/libexec/evolution-data-server-2.28 and then run evolution and try to open one of the calendars, then watch what will be shown on the console of evolution-data-server. Also check console of evolution, it sometimes prints interesting information too. Hope it helps, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Mark emails as read annoyance
Hi, is there a way to prevent Evolution from marking Emails as read, after switching from one folder to another only? Evolution should mark mails as read after a while, but not after switching from one to another folder, they should be marked as read after a while only, if I switch from one mail to another inside a folder. Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mark emails as read annoyance
On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 15:56 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: is there a way to prevent Evolution from marking Emails as read, after switching from one folder to another only? Evolution should mark mails as read after a while, but not after switching from one to another folder, they should be marked as read after a while only, if I switch from one mail to another inside a folder. Way more information is welcome, for example Evolution version, your setting for Mark messages as read, and if this is about local folders or remote ones. andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mark emails as read annoyance
On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 15:56 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi, eis there a way to prevent Evolution from marking Emails as read, after switching from one folder to another only? Evolution should mark mails as read after a while, but not after switching from one to another folder, they should be marked as read after a while only, if I switch from one mail to another inside a folder. I would say that it's a matter of opinion whether this is correct behaviour or not. I don't know of a precise specification of what the timeout semantics are supposed to be (other than the code) so you might need to propose it as a change in BZ. Personally I turn off all such timeouts so I don't care, but that's just me. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mark emails as read annoyance
Forwarded Message From: Ralf Mardorf not my day today :D, same mistake again To: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Evolution] Mark emails as read annoyance Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 16:24:13 +0200 On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 15:08 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I would say that it's a matter of opinion whether this is correct behaviour or not. I don't know of a precise specification of what the timeout semantics are supposed to be (other than the code) so you might need to propose it as a change in BZ. Patrick, I agree that different behaviours could be wanted, but there anyway is a feature I would call a bug. If an unread mail is marked while emptying the trash, this mail will be marked as read after trash is emptied. Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mark emails as read annoyance
Sorry for breaking the thread, by accident I didn't take care about the used account. Forwarded Message From: Ralf Mardorf wrong email account for this list To: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Evolution] Mark emails as read annoyance Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 16:14:56 +0200 On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 16:05 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 15:56 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: is there a way to prevent Evolution from marking Emails as read, after switching from one folder to another only? Way more information is welcome, for example Evolution version, your setting for Mark messages as read, and if this is about local folders or remote ones. Hi Andre :) it's Evolution 3.8.5, from the official Arch Linux extra repository, so it likely is a clean build from upstream. I use local mails (POP/SMTP), the settings are [x] Mark message as read after 1.5 seconds. Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mark emails as read annoyance
On 19 August 2013 15:25, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 15:08 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I would say that it's a matter of opinion whether this is correct behaviour or not. I don't know of a precise specification of what the timeout semantics are supposed to be (other than the code) so you might need to propose it as a change in BZ. Patrick, I agree that different behaviours could be wanted, but there anyway is a feature I would call a bug. If an unread mail is marked while emptying the trash, this mail will be marked as read after trash is emptied. That sounds like something different. There are two ways to empty the Trash: 1) Select File-Empty Trash 2) Visit the Trash virtual folder and expunge it (Ctrl-E) If you mean (1), it does sound like a bug. If you mean (2), then it's not so clear. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mark emails as read annoyance
On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 15:58 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On 19 August 2013 15:25, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 15:08 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I would say that it's a matter of opinion whether this is correct behaviour or not. I don't know of a precise specification of what the timeout semantics are supposed to be (other than the code) so you might need to propose it as a change in BZ. Patrick, I agree that different behaviours could be wanted, but there anyway is a feature I would call a bug. If an unread mail is marked while emptying the trash, this mail will be marked as read after trash is emptied. That sounds like something different. There are two ways to empty the Trash: 1) Select File-Empty Trash 2) Visit the Trash virtual folder and expunge it (Ctrl-E) If you mean (1), it does sound like a bug. If you mean (2), then it's not so clear. I mean (1), since I talked about an unread mail as marked and if I would select the trash folder first, only a mail that anyway should be deleted could be marked ;). Regards, Ralf PS: Now I wouldn't have missed to choose the correct account, but Cc'ing was a good idea :). ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mark emails as read annoyance
On 19 August 2013 16:07, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: I mean (1), since I talked about an unread mail as marked and if I would select the trash folder first, only a mail that anyway should be deleted could be marked ;). Just to be sure I understand you, this is what I'm imagining: 1) You have the preview pane closed. 2) You select an unread message but don't open it. 3) You select File-Empty Trash 4) The selected message is marked as read. Is that correct? If so, you should report it to Gnome Bugzilla. Post the bug number here so others can chip in if they want to. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mark emails as read annoyance
On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 19:44 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Just to be sure I understand you, this is what I'm imagining: 1) You have the preview pane closed. If the preview pane is what I guess that it is, than how can it be closed? No, it's open, I could read the marked email by what I guess that it is the preview pane, but ... 2) You select an unread message but don't open it. ... correct I don't open the mail, IOW I don't open a new window for this email, but it's marked. 3) You select File-Empty Trash Exactly what I do. 4) The selected message is marked as read. Yes, first step is that trash is emptied and when this is done the selected massage will be marked as read. Is that correct? If so, you should report it to Gnome Bugzilla. Post the bug number here so others can chip in if they want to. I only report this kind of bugs when I've got much time, so not at the moment. If I would report this and similar bugs, 24 hours a day aren't enough ;). My machine is a Linux digital audio workstation, I do a lot of testing and bug reporting, from time to time I report desktop app bugs too, but sorry, I won't report this bug, at least not right now, since I would have to check, if it's a bug that already was reported etc.. If I would start reporting similar bugs, for Evolution only it would take weeks. For example, take a look at the beginning of this email. The two empty lines between Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: and the quote aren't intended, it's impossible to delete them and Evolution has got a few of such bugs. Don't get me wrong, if it would be a serious bug, e.g. emails would get lost, then I already would have filed the bug. Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mark emails as read annoyance
On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 00:13 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: If the preview pane is what I guess that it is, than how can it be closed? https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/3.8/intro-main-window.html andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mark emails as read annoyance
On 19 August 2013 23:13, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 19:44 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Just to be sure I understand you, this is what I'm imagining: 1) You have the preview pane closed. If the preview pane is what I guess that it is, than how can it be closed? No, it's open, I could read the marked email by what I guess that it is the preview pane, but ... The preview pane can be open or closed according to what you want. Use Ctrl-M or View-Preview-Show Message Preview to open or close it. If it' s closed, the selected message is not being displayed. If it's open, it *is* being displayed, meaning that in Evo' s view, it is being read. You can also open it by for example double-clicking on it, which will give you a separate window, but as far as Evo is concerned that's semantically exactly the same thing, just that you can be looking at more than one message at once. 2) You select an unread message but don't open it. ... correct I don't open the mail, IOW I don't open a new window for this email, but it's marked. But if the preview pane is open, you *are* in fact opening it. 3) You select File-Empty Trash Exactly what I do. 4) The selected message is marked as read. Yes, first step is that trash is emptied and when this is done the selected massage will be marked as read. Presumably because it has been selected for more than your timeout. I don't think this has anything to do with emptying the Trash. As an experiment, try setting the timeout period to be longer (say 60 seconds) and repeat the above sequence to see if the bug is still present. Then do the same thing with your usual timeout but keeping the preview pane closed. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mark emails as read annoyance
On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 00:13 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I only report this kind of bugs when I've got much time, so not at the moment. If I would report this and similar bugs, 24 hours a day aren't enough ;). My machine is a Linux digital audio workstation, I do a lot of testing and bug reporting, from time to time I report desktop app bugs too, but sorry, I won't report this bug, at least not right now, since I would have to check, if it's a bug that already was reported etc.. If I would start reporting similar bugs, for Evolution only it would take weeks. Bullshit. You've had time enough to post about this issue 5 times now to the mailing list, you've indicated you're using an up-to-date Evolution release, and so a bug report would be valuable and relevant. Please take this discussion thread into Bugzilla and stop making excuses. Don't worry about whether it's already been reported or whatever else etc meant. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Evolution Matthew Barnes ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Bulk] Re: Mark emails as read annoyance
I flagged Andre's mail with the link that shows the names of the main window's parts, it might be useful in the future. On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 00:21 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: If it's open, it *is* being displayed, meaning that in Evo' s view, it is being read. So for Evolution preview and view is the same. To get a preview IMO is something different, than to view a mail. But if the preview pane is open, you *are* in fact opening it. Again, than the term preview isn't correct, IOW Evolution can not preview a mail, but only open it. Presumably because it has been selected for more than your timeout. I don't think this has anything to do with emptying the Trash. As an experiment, try setting the timeout period to be longer (say 60 seconds) and repeat the above sequence to see if the bug is still present. Then do the same thing with your usual timeout but keeping the preview pane closed. I chose the max value of 10 seconds. Preview pane is opened. A mail is selected and marked as unread. It will be marked as unread for minutes, hours, days, month and not automagically become unread, as long as I don't switch between mails or folders. Ok, the mail is opened by the preview pane since 10 minutes and it kept being unread and now I empty trash, so there's no reason to mark the mail read. Now the bomb drops, while it was marked as read for previews tests, it now won't be marked as read anymore, neither at 10 seconds, nor at 1.5 seconds. The behavior seems to changes randomly, like the mouse wheel issue does too. So it doesn't make sense to test what happens, if I close the preview pane now, I'm doing it anyway. The mail at the moment stays unread, does not change to read. :S Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] [Thread closed] Mark emails as read annoyance
On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 19:42 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: Bullshit. You've had time enough to post about this issue 5 times now This is _troubleshooting_ and it already takes time and strange things could happen and in this case did happen, so making a sane bug report is to time consuming for me. You can compare bananas and oranges for what you're doing with your time, but don't claim that you know what's time consuming for me, doing this is impertinent. I will report serious bugs, but I report such minor bugs only, if I've got the time to do it and now I don't have time for reporting this bug. Too funny, there's a discussion at Linux audio users mailing list, because somebody does complain about broken software, but isn't willing to report bugs. I don't complain about broken software, but anyway contribute by testing software and reporting bugs, but I'm doing this for software that is really important for me, so since Evolution can't be used for audio production, I won't become an Evolution tester and since the bug isn't always reproducible, it will be time consuming even to continue troubleshooting. Note that my concern wasn't this bug! I only asked, if it's possible to configure Evolution to mark mails not as read, after switching between folders. I already did more than I wanted to do, IOW I spend time not for my own sake. What you've written not only is bullshit, but disrespectful. I'm not willing to continue. Regards, Ralf ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Thread closed] Mark emails as read annoyance
On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 02:24 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: This is _troubleshooting_ and it already takes time and strange things could happen and in this case did happen, so making a sane bug report is to time consuming for me. You can compare bananas and oranges for what you're doing with your time, but don't claim that you know what's time consuming for me, doing this is impertinent. I will report serious bugs, but I report such minor bugs only, if I've got the time to do it and now I don't have time for reporting this bug. Troubleshooting takes place in Bugzilla. You report the symptoms, we figure it out together. It's what issue trackers are for. Also, you could have reported this bug in the time it took you to post about how you don't have time for reporting this bug. Matthew Barnes ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
