Re: [Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin
Hello Ralf, thanks for your mail. I checked the settings dialog but do not have such an option. Stange. Is it probably language depended? I am using a German language settings. Thanks Nicol Am Montag, den 05.05.2014, 20:14 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: I'm using 3.10.4 on Arch Linux. Both aren't listed by my Evolution's plugins too. If I go to Edit Preferences Mail Preferences Junk there's a box Junk filtering software where I can chose between Bogofilter and SpamAssassin. JFTR I selected Bogofilter and it works like a charm. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin
On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 20:34 +0200, Nicol Hermann wrote: Hello Ralf, thanks for your mail. I checked the settings dialog but do not have such an option. Stange. Is it probably language depended? I am using a German language settings. I have the same situation; I'm using Ubuntu GNOME 14.04, which is standard GNOME, not Unity etc., and provides Evolution 3.10.4. However, my Mail Preferences Junk tab does not have a section for Bogofilter options, or any kind of selector for choosing different junk filtering software. Is there some kind of build option for Evolution that might disable support for Bogofilter? Or some runtime option I need to select, or package that I might need to install, before I can see it (I do have bogofilter itself installed). How does Evolution decide what junk filtering options to show in that preferences dialog? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin
On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 08:57 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 20:34 +0200, Nicol Hermann wrote: Hello Ralf, thanks for your mail. I checked the settings dialog but do not have such an option. Stange. Is it probably language depended? I am using a German language settings. I have the same situation; I'm using Ubuntu GNOME 14.04, which is standard GNOME, not Unity etc., and provides Evolution 3.10.4. However, my Mail Preferences Junk tab does not have a section for Bogofilter options, or any kind of selector for choosing different junk filtering software. Is there some kind of build option for Evolution that might disable support for Bogofilter? Or some runtime option I need to select, or package that I might need to install, before I can see it (I do have bogofilter itself installed). How does Evolution decide what junk filtering options to show in that preferences dialog? I've no idea how Ubuntu handles it, but in Fedora you have to install the evolution-bogofilter package before the option appears (or presumably evolution-spamassassin). poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin
On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 08:57 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: Is there some kind of build option for Evolution that might disable support for Bogofilter? Or some runtime option I need to select, or package that I might need to install, before I can see it (I do have bogofilter itself installed). How does Evolution decide what junk filtering options to show in that preferences dialog? Since I wrote it... Evolution checks for the bogofilter and spamassassin programs at build time. These dependencies are optional, but they have to be explicitly disabled with configure options, otherwise the configure script fails. --disable-bogofilter or --disable-spamassassin Assuming they're both enabled, they're installed as extension modules under $(libdir)/evolution/3.x/modules. The extension modules register themselves with Evolution upon loading, which is how they get listed in Preferences. Different distros package these modules differently. Since they carry extra dependencies, in Fedora we split these modules into subpackages: evolution-bogofilter and evolution-spamassassin. In Debian, both bogofilter and spamassassin modules are included in the libevolution package: https://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/libevolution/filelist However in Ubuntu, the libevolution package only includes the spamassassin module: http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/i386/libevolution/filelist So Ubuntu is apparently disabling Bogofilter support in Evolution, even though they do ship Bogofilter. Worth a bug report. Matthew Barnes ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin
On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 09:32 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: So Ubuntu is apparently disabling Bogofilter support in Evolution, even though they do ship Bogofilter. Worth a bug report. Unfortunately, I discovered one was already filed last year but no love: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1247366 If you're an Evolution user on Ubuntu (and you care about this support) please mark this bug as affecting you so it might get some attention. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin
On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 11:23 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: Unfortunately, I discovered one was already filed last year but no love: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1247366 If you're an Evolution user on Ubuntu (and you care about this support) please mark this bug as affecting you so it might get some attention. The Ubuntu changelog sheds some light... evolution (3.10.1-2ubuntu1) trusty; urgency=low * Merge with Debian experimental, remaining changes: snipped - debian/rules, debian/control: Disable bogofilter and texthighlight support, since these packages are in universe. Swap evolution alternative Recommends to prefer spamassassin. -- Iain Lane iain.l...@canonical.com Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:55:50 + http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/e/evolution/evolution_3.10.4-0ubuntu1/changelog Matthew Barnes ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin
On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 13:31 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: Swap evolution alternative Recommends to prefer spamassassin. On my Arch install I can chose between bogofilter and spamassasign. I've got both installed and Evo 3.10.4 allows me to select one or the other. I selected bogofilters and it works like a charm. However, if for Ubuntu there should be no choice, why not testing, if spamassasign should do the job? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution and VPNs revisited.
Hi, I have brought this up a while back but haven't found a solution. The problem is that if I have Evo running and enable a VPN through Networkmanager (OpenVPN) Evo chokes and is not able to get mail. It tries to get from all accounts but only hangs there and I have to kill all the connections within Evo and then Evo itself. When I reopen Evo it connects and downloads mail on the VPN without any problems (this mail is sent over the VPN). Other e-mail clients like Thunderbird and Claws doesn't have this problem with VPNs. Why is it that Evo doesn't seem able to use a VPN if open at the time the VPN is activated? I'm running Evolution 3.10.4 on Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 x64 -- //Christian ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution and VPNs revisited.
I have brought this up a while back but haven't found a solution. The problem is that if I have Evo running and enable a VPN through Networkmanager (OpenVPN) Evo chokes and is not able to get mail. It tries to get from all accounts but only hangs there and I have to kill all the connections within Evo and then Evo itself. When I reopen Evo it connects and downloads mail on the VPN without any problems (this mail is sent over the VPN). Other e-mail clients like Thunderbird and Claws doesn't have this problem with VPNs. Why is it that Evo doesn't seem able to use a VPN if open at the time the VPN is activated? Presumably because Evo holds open the TCP socket connection and when you start the VPN it all gets confused. I suppose the correct thing that Evo should do is listen for DBUS (or whatever) network events and drop and reform the connection when necessary. Rather than killing all the connections I find that clicking Evo offline then back on again works OK as that forces it to close all the connections. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin
On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 20:02 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 13:31 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: Swap evolution alternative Recommends to prefer spamassassin. On my Arch install I can chose between bogofilter and spamassasign. I've got both installed and Evo 3.10.4 allows me to select one or the other. I selected bogofilters and it works like a charm. However, if for Ubuntu there should be no choice, why not testing, if spamassasign should do the job? Spamassassin will work but it's designed more for mail servers. IMHO Bogofilter is more lightweight and easier to set up for mail clients like Evo. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution and VPNs revisited.
On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 21:58 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: Presumably because Evo holds open the TCP socket connection and when you start the VPN it all gets confused. I suppose the correct thing that Evo should do is listen for DBUS (or whatever) network events and drop and reform the connection when necessary. Pete's right. The problem was prior to 3.12, Evolution had no concept of VPNs. There was either a network available or there wasn't, and it applied that globally. GLib these days provides network monitoring functionality driven by a Netlink socket [1], and can inform applications of whether a route is (potentially) available for a particular host name. Evolution 3.12 utilizes this feature in such a way that each account reacts independently to network state changes. If the host name for an account is found to be unreachable after a network state change, the account automatically closes its TCP socket (if connected) and remains in an offline state until a route to the remote host is (potentially) available again. This should help Evolution behave better for accounts behind VPNs and also recover more gracefully from suspend/resume events. Matthew Barnes [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netlink ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution mail downloading problem
The last couple of days I'm having these problems: 1. I'm getting Evol failing partway through the download: Failed message at 1 of 15 (or 3 of 8 or whatever). It freezes Evo. Cancel won't even work. When I use 'evolution --force-shutdown', I get No response from Evolution. Killingthe process. 2. When I check my mail via webmail, I see mail there that has been downloaded but hasn't been deleted from the server (POP set to delete mail from the server). 3. Evolution won't shut down, even when it hasn't frozen on a download. I use 'evolution --force-shutdown', restart Evo, and then try to shut it down and it won't--I need to go back to --force-shutdown. Running Evolution 3.8.5 on Fedora 19, Lenovo X120e. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] occasional authentication problem
I've seen Evolution 3.12.1 occasionally lose the ability to connect to one of my mail servers (not always the same server, btw) after having been connected for a while. When this happens a dialog box appears asking me to re-enter my password. Unfortunately the dialog box grabs the X input, which prevents me from retrieving the password from my password manager, so I cancel the dialog box. After this point Evolution refuses to prompt again for the password; when I try to open a message on that server, I see log messages like this: May 06 23:06:33 wot org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Sources3[758]: AUTH (1394380512.4809.30@wot): Initiated May 06 23:06:33 wot org.gnome.evolution.dataserver.Sources3[758]: AUTH (1394380512.4809.30@wot): Complete (DISMISSED) The only workaround I've found is to restart Evolution, making sure that I have the password it needs ready to go. Toggling offline/online doesn't work, nor does disabling and re-enabling the relevant account. I'm using 3.12.1 on an Arch linux system, and Evolution appears to be using the Gnome keyring to save passwords. Whatever triggers the problem initially, it seems to me that Evolution is mishandling something about the authentication failure. I don't know what's caused the spontaneous authentication failures, but I can reproduce the symptoms by changing the password on an account and then toggling offline/online. I didn't see any obvious matches in bugzilla, so I'm inclined to create a new bug report... Carl ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] occasional authentication problem
On Wed, 2014-05-07 at 01:00 -0400, Carl Schaefer wrote: I'm using 3.12.1 on an Arch linux system [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Q evolution evolution 3.10.4-1 [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep IgnorePkg /etc/pacman.conf # Pacman won't upgrade packages listed in IgnorePkg and members of IgnoreGroup IgnorePkg = [snip] evolution evolution-data-server gnome-desktop I'm using Arch Linux x86_64 with JWM. Before the upgrade to 3.12 Evolution was ok. 3.12 on my box is a PITA and after downgrading, back to 3.10.4, I still need to run evolution --force-shutdown several times a day, this wasn't needed for 3.10.4 before. However, I get rid of some issues by downgrading. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Q downgrade downgrade 5.0.3-1 The PKGBUILD is available by the AUR, https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/downgrade/ . ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] occasional authentication problem
On Wed, 2014-05-07 at 07:11 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2014-05-07 at 01:00 -0400, Carl Schaefer wrote: I'm using 3.12.1 on an Arch linux system I'm using Arch Linux x86_64 with JWM. Before the upgrade to 3.12 Evolution was ok. 3.12 on my box is a PITA and after downgrading, back to 3.10.4, I still need to run evolution --force-shutdown several times a day, this wasn't needed for 3.10.4 before. However, I get rid of some issues by downgrading. I haven't had any problems with 3.12 other than this, and looking back through my logs it appears that 3.10 had the same problem. For me 3.10 was actually worse, because it would crash when I created a new folder. Carl ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
