Re: [Evolution] Evolution doesn't start
Sorry, need to correct myself. Am 22.02.2015 um 14:47 schrieb Jörg Jenetzky: [...] it says as reply on evolution --version evolution 3.2.3 Seems quite new to me.^^ In fact I got confused by the version numbers: 3.2 released on Sep 25th 2011, 3.12 released on March 23rd 2014. I took it for 3.1.2... Anyway, that's the newest out of the Ubuntu repositories. Best regards -jj- -- Betreuungsbüro Jörg Jenetzky Postfach 500 640 * 22706 Hamburg Telefon: 040 - 55 77 35 50 Telefax: 040 - 55 77 35 51 Bürozeiten MO, MI, FR, 10.00 - 14.00 Uhr GPG-Fingerprint: AEE2 190E 31AD 3823 301A 9557 04F8 31B5 BD1C ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Question
On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 12:02 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: On Sat, 2015-02-21 at 16:17 +0300, nian...@aol.jp wrote: 'camcard' data What is 'camcard' data? https://www.camcard.com/ Yet another cloud + mobile app thing. Welcome to the 2010s, much like the 1980s, with a myriad of quasi-integrated but completely proprietary crap which ignores the existence of a myriad workable Open and/or standard-oriented solutions. -- Adam Tauno Williams mailto:awill...@whitemice.org GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Question
On Sat, 2015-02-21 at 16:17 +0300, nian...@aol.jp wrote: I wanted to ask if there's a way to sync 'camcard' data to 'evolution mail and calendar' (Ubuntu) . If you are the wrong one to ask I am sorry for this derangement . If so, can you provide me with the right support email address please ? I would *assume* this service is using vCard data... at least I would hope so. If not I would recommend ditching them. If the data is vCard then importing, exporting, syncing [which can mean a dozen different things, at least] shouldn't be a problem. -- Adam Tauno Williams mailto:awill...@whitemice.org GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Question
On Sat, 2015-02-21 at 16:17 +0300, nian...@aol.jp wrote: 'camcard' data What is 'camcard' data? andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution doesn't start
Hi Andre, am 22.02.2015 um 12:00 schrieb Andre Klapper: On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 04:22 +0100, Jörg Jenetzky wrote: (not) running Evolution (3.2.3-0ubuntu6) on Linux Mint with Cinnamon 2.0.14. That version is a few years old. Just pointing out. Which one do you mean? I still have all the Evolution data (used organizer and mail) on the drive, as I realized, when recently Evolution was reinstalled as a requirement for Roger Router. Roger Router is a Fritz!Box Journal, softphone fax utility, see http://de.tabos.org/home. I run v. 1.8.11. [...] If Roger Router is some application (more likely) I'm curious why it's a requirement to reinstall $stuff. Sounds pretty broken weird. I'm just a user, who turns out as a low level hacker out of productivity reasons (or if noone in the forums can help me out...). As you said: Better meet the manager's requirements. In this case the update manager was imparative to me: I do't question too much, just wanted it to work. Disabled apport as described in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace. Installed any available debugger for Evolution. Here we go: - $ gdb evolution GNU gdb (Ubuntu/Linaro 7.4-2012.04-0ubuntu2.1) 7.4-2012.04 Copyright (C) 2012 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type show copying and show warranty for details. This GDB was configured as x86_64-linux-gnu. For bug reporting instructions, please see: http://bugs.launchpad.net/gdb-linaro/... Reading symbols from /usr/bin/evolution...Reading symbols from /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/evolution...done. done. (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/bin/evolution [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Using host libthread_db library /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1. [New Thread 0x7fffe93fc700 (LWP 4663)] [New Thread 0x7fffe8bfb700 (LWP 4664)] [New Thread 0x7fffd7587700 (LWP 4665)] [New Thread 0x7fffc42a5700 (LWP 4667)] Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x75ca8191 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (gdb) - That was it. Any clues? Best regards -jj- -- Betreuungsbüro Jörg Jenetzky Postfach 500 640 * 22706 Hamburg Telefon: 040 - 55 77 35 50 Telefax: 040 - 55 77 35 51 Bürozeiten MO, MI, FR, 10.00 - 14.00 Uhr GPG-Fingerprint: AEE2 190E 31AD 3823 301A 9557 04F8 31B5 BD1C ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution doesn't start
On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 14:16 +0100, Jörg Jenetzky wrote: That version is a few years old. Just pointing out. Which one do you mean? The current stable version of Evolution is 3.14 (some Linux distros have 3.12 or 3.10). Until recently new versions were released every 6 months, so version 3.2 is from around 2011. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution doesn't start
Hi poc, am 22.02.2015 um 14:38 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: That version is a few years old. Just pointing out. Which one do you mean? The current stable version of Evolution is 3.14 (some Linux distros have 3.12 or 3.10). Until recently new versions were released every 6 months, so version 3.2 is from around 2011. it says as reply on evolution --version evolution 3.2.3 Seems quite new to me.^^ Best regards -jj- -- Betreuungsbüro Jörg Jenetzky Postfach 500 640 * 22706 Hamburg Telefon: 040 - 55 77 35 50 Telefax: 040 - 55 77 35 51 Bürozeiten MO, MI, FR, 10.00 - 14.00 Uhr GPG-Fingerprint: AEE2 190E 31AD 3823 301A 9557 04F8 31B5 BD1C ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution doesn't start
Hi, On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 04:22 +0100, Jörg Jenetzky wrote: (not) running Evolution (3.2.3-0ubuntu6) on Linux Mint with Cinnamon 2.0.14. That version is a few years old. Just pointing out. I still have all the Evolution data (used organizer and mail) on the drive, as I realized, when recently Evolution was reinstalled as a requirement for Roger Router. I have no idea who that is but if Roger is your manager you better follow his requirements! ;) If Roger Router is some application (more likely) I'm curious why it's a requirement to reinstall $stuff. Sounds pretty broken weird. Tried the console and got nothing but Speicherzugriffsfehler (segmentation violation). Please make sure that Evolution/glib/gtk3 debug packages are installed and run Evolution under gdb to obtain a good stacktrace: https://wiki.gnome.org/Community/GettingInTouch/Bugzilla/GettingTraces In short: $ gdb evolution run ((wait for segfault)) thread apply all bt Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Question
I wanted to ask if there's a way to sync 'camcard' data to 'evolution mail and calendar' (Ubuntu) . If you are the wrong one to ask I am sorry for this derangement . If so, can you provide me with the right support email address please ? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution doesn't start
On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 13:26 -0500, Paul Smith wrote: On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 15:17 +0100, Jörg Jenetzky wrote: Anyway, that's the newest out of the Ubuntu repositories. The newest _for your release of Mint_ (you don't say which release you're using, but it seems pretty old). If you update to a newer version of Mint, you'll get a newer version of Evolution. Mint, like virtually every other distribution out there including Ubuntu, doesn't update the versions of packages in most packages in older distributions; they only backport bugfixes and security fixes. This is especially true of Evolution because its version is tied to the installed version of Gnome. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution doesn't start
Hi Paul, am 22.02.2015 um 19:26 schrieb Paul Smith: On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 15:17 +0100, Jörg Jenetzky wrote: Anyway, that's the newest out of the Ubuntu repositories. The newest _for your release of Mint_ (you don't say which release you're using, but it seems pretty old). I wrote in the starter that I run Mint 13 Maya (=LTS). It's just a habit to stick to some things... If you update to a newer version of Mint, you'll get a newer version of Evolution. Sure would. Or if I'd include Evolution into the repositories. There only is no use to change repositories for a program that doesn't run at all, not even buggy. It doesn't matter whether I made a mistake or there is some dependency problem or whatever, as long as I don't *understand* what's wrong and nobody is able to fix it. Best regards -jj- -- Betreuungsbüro Jörg Jenetzky Postfach 500 640 * 22706 Hamburg Telefon: 040 - 55 77 35 50 Telefax: 040 - 55 77 35 51 Bürozeiten MO, MI, FR, 10.00 - 14.00 Uhr GPG-Fingerprint: AEE2 190E 31AD 3823 301A 9557 04F8 31B5 BD1C ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Mails moved to another folder by filter also end up in trash folder
With Evolution 3.12.10 (as well as all previous versions I'm aware of), when email is moved to another folder, be it by filter rule or manually a duplicate message appears in Trash. I believe this is only the case with IMAP mail accounts. Trying to confirm this, I copied several messages to folders On this computer and moved them about without the messages appearing in Trash. This inconsistent behavior suggests that the messages going to Trash are an artifact of interaction with the remote server via IMAP more so than an intentional feature. Negative effects of this cloning into trash include: 1) The end user, when auditing the contents of Trash prior to expunging may be compelled to confirm that some important and/or unread emails also reside in another location in the message store. 2) This increases the footprint and processing overhead of the message store, while adding no discernible value. 3) It is inconsistent with the operation of POP3 mail accounts and somewhat disconcerting. If it is technically impractical to alter Evolution so this does not occur, would it not be possible to flag or process these messages differently so that the end user or a mail filter can quickly and easily scan Trash and identify which mails reside there as a result of moving them to another folder? -- Best Regards, Dennis Reichel (dennis * reichel d.t net) ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mails moved to another folder by filter also end up in trash folder
On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 10:22 -0500, Dennis Reichel wrote: With Evolution 3.12.10 (as well as all previous versions I'm aware of), when email is moved to another folder, be it by filter rule or manually a duplicate message appears in Trash. The short memories of the internet ... IMAP, until very recently, didn't have the concept of a MOVE. A move operation is implemented as a COPY + DELETE. Hence the fact that a message appears in the Trash. In fact Trash is also something that IMAP didn't (doesn't?) know about - a message is marked as DELETED only, and stays in the folder. The best way of seeing this is to turn off the hide deleted messages (or turn on the show deleted messages depending on your version). You will then be able to see what is happening. The Trash folder on Evolution is a virtual folder showing the messages that are marked as deleted in all the folders of the account. (Unless you've changed the defaults for the account) This has been gone over many times on this mailing list over the last 12 years I've been on it! I believe this is only the case with IMAP mail accounts. Trying to confirm this, I copied several messages to folders On this computer and moved them about without the messages appearing in Trash. It used to be that even internally to Evo a move was implemented as copy +delete. But that appears to have changed recently (I don't use local folders). Even for IMAP, Evo will now use the MOVE command if the server supports it (which confused me immensely the first time it happened - I *liked* the copy+delete. This inconsistent behavior suggests that the messages going to Trash are an artifact of interaction with the remote server via IMAP more so than an intentional feature. Negative effects of this cloning into trash include: It is NOT cloned into trash. The message is marked as deleted in the original folder and what you are seeing is a virtual folder containing references to the deleted messages. No messages are moved to the trash in the process. 1) The end user, when auditing the contents of Trash prior to expunging may be compelled to confirm that some important and/or unread emails also reside in another location in the message store. Make deleted messages visible, it makes things a lot clearer! 2) This increases the footprint and processing overhead of the message store, while adding no discernible value. Nope, doesn't change any processing overhead. 3) It is inconsistent with the operation of POP3 mail accounts and somewhat disconcerting. IMAP and POP3 are totally different things - I would say that POP3 processing is inconsistent with IMAP operation ... Besides, the handling of internal Evolution mail stores (which is effectively what POP3 is) used to use the IMAP model, but users, apparently, didn't like it and didn't see any need for them to be mutually consistent ... If it is technically impractical to alter Evolution so this does not occur, would it not be possible to flag or process these messages differently so that the end user or a mail filter can quickly and easily scan Trash and identify which mails reside there as a result of moving them to another folder? Make deleted messages visible and expunge (Ctrl-E) individual folders. In the virtual trash folder add a source column - that will tell you where each of the deleted messages actually resides. Other than that the virtual Trash folder just displays messages marked as DELETED - there is no distinction between messages deleted and those deleted as a result of a copy+delete. P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mails moved to another folder by filter also end up in trash folder
On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 10:22 -0500, Dennis Reichel wrote: With Evolution 3.12.10 (as well as all previous versions I'm aware of), when email is moved to another folder, be it by filter rule or manually a duplicate message appears in Trash. https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-moving-emails.html andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution doesn't start
Hi, On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 14:16 +0100, Jörg Jenetzky wrote: $ gdb evolution (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/bin/evolution [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Using host libthread_db library /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1. [New Thread 0x7fffe93fc700 (LWP 4663)] [New Thread 0x7fffe8bfb700 (LWP 4664)] [New Thread 0x7fffd7587700 (LWP 4665)] [New Thread 0x7fffc42a5700 (LWP 4667)] Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x75ca8191 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (gdb) - That was it. Let me quote my previous email again: Please make sure that Evolution/glib/gtk3 debug packages are installed and run Evolution under gdb to obtain a good stacktrace: https://wiki.gnome.org/Community/GettingInTouch/Bugzilla/GettingTraces In short: $ gdb evolution run ((wait for segfault)) thread apply all bt Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mails moved to another folder by filter also end up in trash folder
I am mostly guessing what is going on for you here, but this may be what's happening: Not all IMAP servers support the MOVE operation (RFC 6851). In that case, when moving a message evolution has no alternative than COPYing the message to the new folder and deleting the old one. It's possible that your IMAP server implements a Trash folder containing all messages marked for deletion but not expunged yet. That would explain why moving a message makes a copy appear on Trash. IMHO the best solution would be to update the IMAP server to support MOVE, so that COPY+DELETE isn't needed. Do you happen to know which IMAP server is it? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mails moved to another folder by filter also end up in trash folder
One of my IMAP accounts shows the mentioned behavior (when moving messages *manually* from one folder to another the messages appear also in trash), one doesn't, so probably you are right. On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 18:41 +0100, Ángel González wrote: I am mostly guessing what is going on for you here, but this may be what's happening: Not all IMAP servers support the MOVE operation (RFC 6851). In that case, when moving a message evolution has no alternative than COPYing the message to the new folder and deleting the old one. It's possible that your IMAP server implements a Trash folder containing all messages marked for deletion but not expunged yet. That would explain why moving a message makes a copy appear on Trash. IMHO the best solution would be to update the IMAP server to support MOVE, so that COPY+DELETE isn't needed. Do you happen to know which IMAP server is it? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution doesn't start
On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 15:17 +0100, Jörg Jenetzky wrote: Anyway, that's the newest out of the Ubuntu repositories. The newest _for your release of Mint_ (you don't say which release you're using, but it seems pretty old). If you update to a newer version of Mint, you'll get a newer version of Evolution. Mint, like virtually every other distribution out there including Ubuntu, doesn't update the versions of packages in most packages in older distributions; they only backport bugfixes and security fixes. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mails moved to another folder by filter also end up in trash folder
On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 18:39 +, Pete Biggs wrote: This has been gone over many times on this mailing list over the last 12 years I've been on it! Many, many, many times, by me and a lot of other people including you :-) poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution Under Xubuntu
Hi there, Something someone wrote recently under another thread raises a question for me: Evolution is part of GNOME and relies heavily on GNOME infrastructure. I was considering switching from Ubuntu to Xubuntu, which uses the Xfce desktop environment, but I assumed that Evolution would still be available to me. While I realised that Evolution was part of the GNOME Project, I didn't realise that it's also technically tied to the GNOME desktop environment. So am I correct that I will no longer be able to use Evolution if I switch to Xubuntu? Thanks. Craig ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Under Xubuntu
Hi Craig, I'm using Evolution on Xubuntu - there are no problems. It's easy to install from the Ubuntu Software Centre and I presume that sorts all the dependencies etc. Cheers, Harry On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 23:12 -0800, Craig wrote: Hi there, Something someone wrote recently under another thread raises a question for me: Evolution is part of GNOME and relies heavily on GNOME infrastructure. I was considering switching from Ubuntu to Xubuntu, which uses the Xfce desktop environment, but I assumed that Evolution would still be available to me. While I realised that Evolution was part of the GNOME Project, I didn't realise that it's also technically tied to the GNOME desktop environment. So am I correct that I will no longer be able to use Evolution if I switch to Xubuntu? Thanks. Craig ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Under Xubuntu
On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 23:12 -0800, Craig wrote: So am I correct that I will no longer be able to use Evolution if I switch to Xubuntu? That's a misunderstanding. Evolution has got GNOME dependencies, but doesn't need a GNOME install. Among other DEs/WMs I used Evolution with Xfce4/xfwm4, JWM and currently I reply running openbox. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Under Xubuntu
On Mon, 2015-02-23 at 20:25 +1300, Harry Chapman wrote: Hi Craig, I'm using Evolution on Xubuntu - there are no problems. It's easy to install from the Ubuntu Software Centre and I presume that sorts all the dependencies etc. Cheers, Harry Hi Harry, Thanks. Good to know. Craig ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution doesn't start
On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 20:12 +0100, Jörg Jenetzky wrote: am 22.02.2015 um 19:26 schrieb Paul Smith: On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 15:17 +0100, Jörg Jenetzky wrote: Anyway, that's the newest out of the Ubuntu repositories. The newest _for your release of Mint_ (you don't say which release you're using, but it seems pretty old). I wrote in the starter that I run Mint 13 Maya (=LTS). Mint 13 is based on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, which is 3 years old. The current LTS release of Ubuntu is 14.04, and the current LTS release of Mint is Mint 17 (Quiana) (or Mint 17.1 (Rebecca)). If you update to a newer version of Mint, you'll get a newer version of Evolution. Sure would. Or if I'd include Evolution into the repositories. I don't know what include Evolution into the repositories means. Evolution is part of GNOME and relies heavily on GNOME infrastructure. There's no way you can just grab a DEB package of the latest Evolution and install it on your very old system and expect it to work. There only is no use to change repositories for a program that doesn't run at all, not even buggy. It doesn't matter whether I made a mistake or there is some dependency problem or whatever, as long as I don't *understand* what's wrong and nobody is able to fix it. I don't know why it doesn't work either. I used Ubuntu 12.04 for quite a while and Evolution worked OK (definitely it started). I never used Mint 13 but I did use Mint 16 for a while, before I switched to Ubuntu GNOME, and Evolution worked fine for me there as well. If Evolution won't even start before dumping core then my suspicion is there's something corrupted about its installation in your home directory, or all the Evolution data which you still have on your drive (where did that data come from?) I recommend the following steps: First, create a new temporary user account on your system, log in as that account, and try to start Evolution. If it still dumps core, then you need to contact the Mint folks as they have a serious problem with their packaging of Evolution; they say your distro is supported until April 2017... so you can find out how serious they are about that. Upgrading to a newer version of Mint will likely solve this problem. If starting Evolution in a new user account works, then most likely there's something whacked about the Evolution data you've got. It would help if you described more clearly exactly where this data came from originally, how you recovered it, etc. It's possible we won't be able to help you, but the directory structure and format Evolution uses to store its data has changed over time. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Under Xubuntu
On Mon, 2015-02-23 at 08:34 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 23:12 -0800, Craig wrote: So am I correct that I will no longer be able to use Evolution if I switch to Xubuntu? That's a misunderstanding. Evolution has got GNOME dependencies, but doesn't need a GNOME install. Among other DEs/WMs I used Evolution with Xfce4/xfwm4, JWM and currently I reply running openbox. Hi Ralf, OK, thanks. Much appreciated. Craig ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution doesn't start
Hi Paul, am 22.02.2015 um 22:59 schrieb Paul Smith: [lots of good stuff] If Evolution won't even start before dumping core then my suspicion is there's something corrupted about its installation in your home directory, or all the Evolution data which you still have on your drive (where did that data come from?) A former evolution usage in combination with a unsuccessful migration from an older Ubuntu system. Must have been when they started this Unity thing that I disliked. The data came out of an installation around 3.1, the restauration failed in 3.2.3, as I remember. So, changes in file systems are not likely to be the issue. I fetched it from my backup and this is IMHO not likely to be corrupted either. As I wrote on June 8th 2013 18:26 in http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/evolution-startet-nach-backup-nicht-mehr/: gconftool --load=$HOME/.local/share/evolution/backup-restore-gconf.xml on the newly installed Linux Mint didn't work. Don't know whether the backup was corrupted anyway or some process didn't work out - just beats me. No help on the forums was available, and I needed to use the system for daily tasks. So I gave up and went to use Thunderbird on that same system. As I print out more important eMails, there wasn't too much lost. Now I suspect that the current problems result out of artefacts of the failed restauration. I recommend the following steps: First, create a new temporary user account on your system, log in as that account, and try to start Evolution. [...] Worked. Evolution is fine. If starting Evolution in a new user account works, then most likely there's something whacked about the Evolution data you've got. Yes, this seems confirmed now. Anyway, there is something very wrong about it. Where do I find a complete list of places to clean up? Mit freundlichen Grüßen -jj- -- Betreuungsbüro Jörg Jenetzky Postfach 500 640 * 22706 Hamburg Telefon: 040 - 55 77 35 50 Telefax: 040 - 55 77 35 51 Bürozeiten MO, MI, FR, 10.00 - 14.00 Uhr GPG-Fingerprint: AEE2 190E 31AD 3823 301A 9557 04F8 31B5 BD1C ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution doesn't start
Where do I find a complete list of places to clean up? GIYF. https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/3.2/data-storage.html First, I would remove ~/.cache/evolution to make sure there's not some corrupted cache content. If that doesn't work you will have to clear out everything else. If you want to retain your old data (so that it can be possibly imported later) then rename ~/.local/share/evolution to something else; if you don't need it, then just delete it. You will also need to rename/delete ~/.config/evolution and you will need to remove the Gconf key /apps/evolution - I think the command 'gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/evolution' should do it. *DISCLAIMER. You do these things at your own risk. Playing with gconf and manually deleting config files is an easy to muck things up. Be careful. Make a full backup of your system before doing these things. It's not my responsibility if you break your system.** P. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mails moved to another folder by filter also end up in trash folder
Thanks Angel, Pete, Lorenz, Patrick and Andre! I'll look into the capabilities of the IMAP server to see if it can be updated to support MOVE. I was just getting a little concerned about my practices when I found myself reading mails out of the deleted items folder and neglecting to mark them read in their assigned by filter rule folders. That's a bit like eating food out of the trash, to be avoided if there are more civilized options :) Dennis On Sun, 2015-02-22 at 10:22 -0500, Dennis Reichel wrote: With Evolution 3.12.10 (as well as all previous versions I'm aware of), when email is moved to another folder, be it by filter rule or manually a duplicate message appears in Trash. I believe this is only the case with IMAP mail accounts. Trying to confirm this, I copied several messages to folders On this computer and moved them about without the messages appearing in Trash. This inconsistent behavior suggests that the messages going to Trash are an artifact of interaction with the remote server via IMAP more so than an intentional feature. Negative effects of this cloning into trash include: 1) The end user, when auditing the contents of Trash prior to expunging may be compelled to confirm that some important and/or unread emails also reside in another location in the message store. 2) This increases the footprint and processing overhead of the message store, while adding no discernible value. 3) It is inconsistent with the operation of POP3 mail accounts and somewhat disconcerting. If it is technically impractical to alter Evolution so this does not occur, would it not be possible to flag or process these messages differently so that the end user or a mail filter can quickly and easily scan Trash and identify which mails reside there as a result of moving them to another folder? -- Best Regards, Dennis Reichel (dennis * reichel d.t net) ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
