Re: [Evolution] "Cannot get message", why?

2020-11-19 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Thu, 2020-11-19 at 09:23 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> Eventually, could you disable the message preview (Ctrl+M), then send
> me one of the affected messages as an attachment, thus I can try it
> here, please? I've a hard time to find the message in an mbox format.

Hi,
thanks for the example message (received in a private mail).
Unfortunately, I am able to view it, it opens with no problem here,
saying "This message is signed, but the public key is not in your
keyring" at the top, under which is the message itself. This is with
the development version of Evolution (to be 3.39.1).

I do not have 3.30.5 installed anywhere, the oldest I've found is
3.32.5, which can show the message properly too, under (obsolete)
Fedora 30 distribution. I tried also with 3.28.5 in RHEL 8 and it can
view the message with no problem, thus I guess there's something with
gpg on your machine. Having the backtrace would help (and can correct
me). Eventually/also run Evolution from a terminal like this:

   $ CAMEL_DEBUG=gpg evolution

which may or may not show something useful.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Error message when selecting the checkbox for a Calendar on the computer - "Message recipient disconnected from message bus without replying"

2020-11-19 Thread KS via evolution-list
Greetings,

Thank you for your response.

Various and sundry software updates became available last night, and
after applying them - the issue is resolved.


As it is resolved and I can no longer replicate it, debugging it at
this time would be ineffective.

I've availed myself of File>Back Up Evolution Data to make restoration
easier.

If the issue crops up again, I'll submit a different email.

Many thanks again for the swift response.

Regards,

KS





On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 07:24 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-11-16 at 17:08 -0700, KS via evolution-list wrote:
> > "The calendar backend servicing 'testcalendar' has quit
> > unexpectedly.
> 
> Hi,
> it means the evolution-calendar-factory process crashed for some
> reason. It can be the On This Computer/Personal calendar content is
> broken in some way. Having a backtrace of the crash will help to
> identify the cause. Install debuginfo (dbg) packages for libical,
> libical-glib, glib2 and evolution-data-server. I think Ubuntu splits
> them into subpackages, which makes it harder to install. Say it would
> be for libedataserver, libedata-cal, libecal and some such. How the
> others are named I do not know, I do not use Ubuntu. Once you've them
> installed run the factory under gdb like this:
> 
>    $ gdb /usr/libexec/evolution-calendar-factory -w
> 
> The actual path can differ in your distribution. After that wait for
> few seconds, thus the D-Bus has time to register the interface and
> all
> those things, then run Evolution and reproduce the crash. The gdb
> should stop the execution, after which you can run:
> 
>    (gdb) bt
> 
> which will print the backtrace. Then you can quit the session with:
> 
>    (gdb) q
> 
> Please check the backtrace for any private information, like
> passwords,
> email address, server addresses,... I usually search for "pass" at
> least (quotes for clarity only).
>  
> > https://www.systutorials.com/evolution-save-data-configure-files-linux/
> > - "Where Does Evolution Save Its Data and Configuration Files on
> > Linux?"
> 
> The official user documentation contains the information here:
> https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/data-storage.html
> 
> The On This Computer/Personal calendar is stored at:
> 
>    ~/.local/share/evolution/calendar/system/
> 
> It contains a calendar.ics file with your events. The other files
> reference related attachments for respective events, if any. You can
> move away the file, then the calendar factory will create it (as an
> empty file) on demand. You can extract the events from there with an
> external tool, or you can try File->Import->Single file->... it from
> Evolution, though if it's broken in some way the 'evolution' process
> will crash in the same way the calendar factory crashes.
> 
> By the way, what is your tzdata (or tzdb) version, please? I think
> of:
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-data-server/-/issues/267
> 
> Bye,
> Milan
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Re: [Evolution] Yahoo IMAP stopped working ... again

2020-11-19 Thread J.B. Nicholson

You wrote:

You recommendation to use it in combination with gmail is asking for trouble.
Which is what I explicitly did not recommend. Please read more closely and stop 
repeating your virtue signaling over paying for services. It's perfectly reasonable 
to pay for services and the original poster has not identified a budget. Mentioning 
that not everyone can pay 5 or 10 euros a year for service addresses no questions or 
claims.



A solution could be to get rid of Yahoo by using your own domain and your own
servers without a provider similar to Yahoo involved. IMO gmail is a provider
similar to Yahoo.
So Gmail is denounced as "asking for trouble" but Gmail which is "a provider similar 
to Yahoo" (no doubt similar in terms of spying like Google as well as other 
similarities) is not beyond the pale.

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Re: [Evolution] "Cannot get message", why?

2020-11-19 Thread Milan Crha via evolution-list
On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 23:46 +0100, Chris Ramsden via evolution-list
wrote:
> In that text file I can find the text of the missing messages, so I
> can see that they have downloaded fine. But when viewed in evo, just
> the ""Retrieving message “48039”" advice in the message view pane.
> The status bar sticks at "Parsing message".

Hi,
then it's a very different thing. You can install debuginfo packages
for evolution and evolution-data-server and then grab a backtrace of
the evolution process, to see where it is stuck.

You can get the backtrace with command like this:
   $ gdb --batch --ex "t a a bt" -pid=`pidof evolution` &>bt.txt
Please check the bt.txt for any private information, like passwords,
email address, server addresses,... I usually search for "pass" at
least (quotes for clarity only).

I'd guess you are affected by this one:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-data-server/-/issues/75
but it seems you've evolution 3.30.5, which has it included.

Eventually, could you disable the message preview (Ctrl+M), then send
me one of the affected messages as an attachment, thus I can try it
here, please? I've a hard time to find the message in an mbox format.
Bye,
Milan

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Re: [Evolution] Yahoo IMAP stopped working ... again

2020-11-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list
On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 12:39 -0600, Christopher Marlow wrote:
> Read my last reply.. 15.00 for the domain ( per year) and 15.00 a year
> for the email front end. Then I use a free gmail account to have my
> email delivered to it.

The need to be "rich" to pay for it is without doubts an overstatement.
However, not everybody can pay just 5,-€ here and just another 10,-€
there and ... in the end the few € here and there could become a
considerable sum of money. You recommendation to use it in combination
with gmail is asking for trouble. A solution could be to get rid of
Yahoo by using your own domain and your own servers without a provider
similar to Yahoo involved. IMO gmail is a provider similar to Yahoo.
IIUC your point is, that you have got one domain and if gmail should
behave like Yahoo, too, you could stay with your domain and just need to
migrate to another free mail account for delivery, without the need to
change the original email address.

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Re: [Evolution] Printing Mail to PDF

2020-11-19 Thread John Murrell
Thanks Milan,
Looks like I will have to continue with my work around of copying the
email or appointment into a Libre Office document.
John Murrell

On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 07:33 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 09:57 +0100, Andre Klapper via evolution-
> listwrote:
> Is this a problem in Evolution or in my (Linux Mint) PDF printer ?
> Hard to say. Which exact Evolution version?
>   Hi,I'm afraid it's a problem of the WebKitGTK. Evolution just
> passes datato it and it does whatever it wants to with it. I doubt it
> canrecognize real print to the PDF, it uses only styles. For example
> whenI try to print Andre's mail, which is plain text, then the
> headers losttheir mailto: "links" (more or less expected, Evolution
> can processsome parts differently on print), but the text part has
> properly styled(blue & underlined here) the links in the Andre's
> signature and thelinks to the mailing list, they are only not
> clickable.
> I do not know whether this could be done at all, though. It's
> aquestion on the WebKitGTK developers. When I print a web page from
> theEpiphany (which is WebKitGTK application), then it doesn't make
> thelinks clickable too.
>   Bye,Milan
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