[Evolution] Support GnuPG Web Key Service

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


To make dealing with PGP/GPG keys easier, there is now a protocol to
upload keys by email to a GnuPG Web Key Service server [1].

According to the Wiki page KMail and Mutt already support it (in their
development version(?)).

Would this be useful to add to Evolution?

> For those who want to integrate support for the Web Key Service into
> a MUA but do not want to fiddle with the server side of things, we
> are happy to provide mail addresses for testing.


Thanks,

Paul


[1] https://wiki.gnupg.org/WKS

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[Evolution] Importing Mailman list archives with mangled addresses

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


Due to some SourceForge.net problems, I was cut off from several lists,
and want to import some Mailman archives, to be able to properly reply
with the correct message headers. I use the coreboot list archive from
August 2017 as an example [1][2].

Unfortunately, the email addresses seem to be mangled. For example @ is
replaced with * at *. No I imported that archive with 3.24.5, and these
messages are now mangled. Is there a way I can repair that?

   1. Remove the messages I imported.
   2. Fix the archive (probably the user has to do that)
   3. Should Evolution abort the import, or warn the user, if it notices
  these problems?


Thanks,

Paul


[1] https://mail.coreboot.org/pipermail/coreboot/
[2] https://mail.coreboot.org/pipermail/coreboot/2017-August.txt.gz

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Re: [Evolution] How to collapse and expand thread in message list with keyboard?

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


Am Samstag, den 22.07.2017, 09:28 +0200 schrieb Paul Menzel:

> Am Freitag, den 21.07.2017, 23:07 +0100 schrieb Pete Biggs:
> > > When using the threading view, is there a default keyboard short-cut to
> > > collapse and expand a thread or threads which the currently selected
> > > messages belongs to?
> > 
> > '+' and '-' expands and collapses a thread - although '-' only
> > collapses to the level of the message currently highlighted.
> 
> Ah, I thought I tried that, but I am using the Neo keyboard layout [1],
> where + and - are a key combination. That doesn’t seem to be
> recognized. From `xev` pressing the plus key on the keypad (KP_ADD)
> works, and below with the US layout it works too.
> 
> ```
> KeyPress event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x1a1,
> root 0x4a1, subw 0x0, time 4461304, (541,147), root:(542,188),
> state 0x0, keycode 50 (keysym 0xffe1, Shift_L), same_screen YES,
> XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
> XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
> XFilterEvent returns: False
> 
> KeyPress event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x1a1,
> root 0x4a1, subw 0x0, time 4462794, (541,147), root:(542,188),
> state 0x1, keycode 21 (keysym 0x2b, plus), same_screen YES,
> XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (2b) "+"
> XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (2b) "+"
> XFilterEvent returns: False
> 
> KeyRelease event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x1a1,
> root 0x4a1, subw 0x0, time 4462911, (541,147), root:(542,188),
> state 0x1, keycode 21 (keysym 0x2b, plus), same_screen YES,
> XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (2b) "+"
> XFilterEvent returns: False
> 
> KeyRelease event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x1a1,
> root 0x4a1, subw 0x0, time 4466830, (541,147), root:(542,188),
> state 0x1, keycode 50 (keysym 0xffe1, Shift_L), same_screen YES,
> XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
> XFilterEvent returns: False
> ```
> 
> The key on the Neo layout works not.
> 
> ```
> KeyPress event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x181,
> root 0x4a1, subw 0x0, time 3991146, (613,478), root:(614,519),
> state 0x0, keycode 66 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES,
> XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 51
> XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
> XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
> XFilterEvent returns: False
> 
> KeyPress event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x181,
> root 0x4a1, subw 0x0, time 3991374, (613,478), root:(614,519),
> state 0x2000, keycode 57 (keysym 0x2b, plus), same_screen YES,
> XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (2b) "+"
> XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (2b) "+"
> XFilterEvent returns: False
> 
> KeyRelease event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x181,
> root 0x4a1, subw 0x0, time 3991433, (613,478), root:(614,519),
> state 0x2000, keycode 57 (keysym 0x2b, plus), same_screen YES,
> XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (2b) "+"
> XFilterEvent returns: False
> 
> KeyRelease event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x181,
> root 0x4a1, subw 0x0, time 3991718, (613,478), root:(614,519),
> state 0x2000, keycode 66 (keysym 0xfe0c, ISO_First_Group), same_screen 
> YES,
> XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
> XFilterEvent returns: False
> ```
> 
> This looks like a problem in a lower level component?

I created bug report #785717 (Keycode 46 (keysym 0x2d, minus) does not
collapse thread) for this issue.


Thanks,

Paul


> [1] https://www.neo-layout.org/
[2] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=785717

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[Evolution] Long “quitting time” (was: `folders.db-journal` and `folders.db-wal` not found)

[Paul Menzel]

Am Mittwoch, den 26.07.2017, 09:16 +0200 schrieb Milan Crha:
> On Wed, 2017-07-26 at 07:52 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
> > and Evolution does indeed quit much faster like in 30 seconds or so
> > compared to several minutes.

> thirty seconds is still quite much time, it should quit almost
> instantly. Though thinking of it, it can also depend on the settings,
> like "Empty Trash On Exit", and the similar option to delete Junk on
> Exit. I mean, maybe it does something sane on exit this time.

I created bug #785718 (Quitting Evolution takes one or two minutes) [1]
for that issue.


Thanks,

Paul


[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=785718

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Re: [Evolution] `folders.db-journal` and `folders.db-wal` not found

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Milan,


Am Freitag, den 21.07.2017, 10:54 +0200 schrieb Paul Menzel:

> Am Montag, den 17.07.2017, 09:09 +0200 schrieb Milan Crha:
> > On Sun, 2017-07-16 at 11:46 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
> > > 2290  stat64("/home/joey/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/folders.db
> > > -journal", 0xbfbd552c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
> > > 2290  stat64("/home/joey/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/folders.db
> > > -wal", 0xbfbd552c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
> > those files are not managed by evolution(-data-server) itself, I guess
> > they are referenced/created by sqlite. The above particular lines
> > reference the folder.db file for all On This Computer messages and
> > folders, where POP messages are copied to. They are copied only once,
> > on Send/Receive when they had been recognized as new, which might not
> > influence each close of the application.
> > 
> > Maybe try to get two/three backtraces [1] of the closing evolution,
> > where might be seen what it tries to do. It surely should not cause
> > aggressive re-saving of the folders.db file on close.
> 
> I created issue #785212 [2], and attached the traces there.

Thank you for following up on the bug report, and pointing vFolders
(virtual/search folders(?)) out as the cause of the problem. As I am
still on Evolution 3.22.6, I deleted the search folders, and Evolution
does indeed quit much faster like in 30 seconds or so compared to
several minutes.


Thanks,

Paul

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Re: [Evolution] How to collapse and expand thread in message list with keyboard?

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Pete,


Thank you for your response.


Am Freitag, den 21.07.2017, 23:07 +0100 schrieb Pete Biggs:
> > When using the threading view, is there a default keyboard short-cut to
> > collapse and expand a thread or threads which the currently selected
> > messages belongs to?
> 
> '+' and '-' expands and collapses a thread - although '-' only
> collapses to the level of the message currently highlighted.

Ah, I thought I tried that, but I am using the Neo keyboard layout [1],
where + and - are a key combination. That doesn’t seem to be
recognized. From `xev` pressing the plus key on the keypad (KP_ADD)
works, and below with the US layout it works too.

```
KeyPress event, serial 32, synthetic NO, window 0x1a1,
root 0x4a1, subw 0x0, time 4461304, (541,147), root:(542,188),
state 0x0, keycode 50 (keysym 0xffe1, Shift_L), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyPress event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x1a1,
root 0x4a1, subw 0x0, time 4462794, (541,147), root:(542,188),
state 0x1, keycode 21 (keysym 0x2b, plus), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (2b) "+"
XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (2b) "+"
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x1a1,
root 0x4a1, subw 0x0, time 4462911, (541,147), root:(542,188),
state 0x1, keycode 21 (keysym 0x2b, plus), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (2b) "+"
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x1a1,
root 0x4a1, subw 0x0, time 4466830, (541,147), root:(542,188),
state 0x1, keycode 50 (keysym 0xffe1, Shift_L), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XFilterEvent returns: False
```

The key on the Neo layout works not.

```
KeyPress event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x181,
root 0x4a1, subw 0x0, time 3991146, (613,478), root:(614,519),
state 0x0, keycode 66 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen YES,
XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 51
XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyPress event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x181,
root 0x4a1, subw 0x0, time 3991374, (613,478), root:(614,519),
state 0x2000, keycode 57 (keysym 0x2b, plus), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (2b) "+"
XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (2b) "+"
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x181,
root 0x4a1, subw 0x0, time 3991433, (613,478), root:(614,519),
state 0x2000, keycode 57 (keysym 0x2b, plus), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (2b) "+"
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x181,
root 0x4a1, subw 0x0, time 3991718, (613,478), root:(614,519),
state 0x2000, keycode 66 (keysym 0xfe0c, ISO_First_Group), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XFilterEvent returns: False
```

This looks like a problem in a lower level component?

> I can't see a way of collapsing a whole thread.

Thank you for looking.


Thanks,

Paul


[1] https://www.neo-layout.org/

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[Evolution] How to collapse and expand thread in message list with keyboard?

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


When using the threading view, is there a default keyboard short-cut to
collapse and expand a thread or threads which the currently selected
messages belongs to?


Thanks,

Paul

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Re: [Evolution] `folders.db-journal` and `folders.db-wal` not found

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Milan,


Thank you for your reply.

Am Montag, den 17.07.2017, 09:09 +0200 schrieb Milan Crha:
> On Sun, 2017-07-16 at 11:46 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
> > 2290  stat64("/home/joey/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/folders.db
> > -journal", 0xbfbd552c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
> > 2290  stat64("/home/joey/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/folders.db
> > -wal", 0xbfbd552c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)

> those files are not managed by evolution(-data-server) itself, I guess
> they are referenced/created by sqlite. The above particular lines
> reference the folder.db file for all On This Computer messages and
> folders, where POP messages are copied to. They are copied only once,
> on Send/Receive when they had been recognized as new, which might not
> influence each close of the application.
> 
> Maybe try to get two/three backtraces [1] of the closing evolution,
> where might be seen what it tries to do. It surely should not cause
> aggressive re-saving of the folders.db file on close.

I created issue #785212 [2], and attached the traces there.


Thanks,

Paul


[2] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=785212
"Quitting Evolution takes several minutes"

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[Evolution] `folders.db-journal` and `folders.db-wal` not found

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


Using Evolution 3.22.6 from Debian Sid/unstable, but also with versions
from before, it takes several minutes on a slow system to
terminate/quit.

Tracing Evolution while closing, I see a lot of the messages below.

```
2290  stat64("/home/joey/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/folders.db-journal", 
0xbfbd552c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
2290  stat64("/home/joey/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/folders.db-wal", 
0xbfbd552c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
```

```
$ grep -c "No such file or" 20170715-evolution-term-strace.txt
429316
```

I have a local account where several thousand messages download from
different accounts over POP3 are stored.

Should I create a bug report for this.


Thanks,

Paul

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Re: [Evolution] customizing save-attachment file menu

[Paul Menzel]

Dear M.,


Am Samstag, den 01.04.2017, 10:05 -0500 schrieb M. Alford:
> I would like to customize the file listing that comes up when I save an
> attachment (e.g. hide all those files whose names start with a dot).

In the “save file dialog”, right click in the box with the list of
files, and deselect *Show hidden files* (something like this).

> Is this done within evolution, or is that menu produced by some other
> component of the OS, like window manager or file browser?

Good question. I’d assume it’s a GTK+ functionality.


Thanks,

Paul

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Re: [Evolution] Only add signature when composing a new email?

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Bjørn,


Am Mittwoch, den 22.02.2017, 16:25 +0100 schrieb Bjørn T Johansen:
> On Wed, 2017-02-22 at 16:22 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > On Wed, 2017-02-22 at 16:20 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2017-02-22 at 16:15 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2017-02-22 at 15:51 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, 2017-02-22 at 15:41 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, 2017-02-22 at 15:12 +0100, Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
> > > > > > > I can not find such a setting, does it not exist or am I
> > > > > > > blind?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It does not exist. Why would someone want that?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Mainly, because I do not need the signature when replying to the
> > > > > same
> > > > > email over and over again. I end up with x numbers of the same
> > > > > signature at the bottom of the email..
> > > > 
> > > > Email applications that follow RFC 3676 automatically strip the "--
> > > > "
> > > > signature marker line and everything after that line, to avoid
> > > > repeating the signature over and over again.
> > > > 
> > > > andre
> > > 
> > > Yes, but since not every email client does that, I really like an
> > > option where I can add a signature only when composing a new message
> > > and not when replying..
> > 
> > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339675
> 
> 
> Ok, I guess that since this is a feature request that is over 10
> years, that this is not something that is going to be implemented in
> Evolution...

At least not by the upstream developers. It’s free software, so anybody
can implement this feature request. If you aren’t able to do it
yourself (ability, time), would you be willing to pay someone to
implement this?


Thanks,

Paul

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[Evolution] How to handle multiple GPG keys for a recipient address

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


One of my correspondents has several GPG for her email address, and
prefers one of the two, but both keys are valid and were used in the
past. Additionally, she cannot revoke the certificate for the unwanted
key.

Is it possible to tell Evolution, which key to use?


Thanks,

Paul

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[Evolution] New critical GTK warning `_gtk_widget_captured_event: assertion 'WIDGET_REALIZED_FOR_EVENT (widget, event)' failed`

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


I believe since GTK+ was updated in Debian Sid/unstable to 3.22.6-1,
with Evolution and Evolution Data Server 3.22.3, I see a lot of the
warnings below written to the terminal, and Evolution is unresponsive.
After killing Evolution, and starting it again, it seems to work.

```
(evolution:4643): Gtk-CRITICAL **: _gtk_widget_captured_event: assertion 
'WIDGET_REALIZED_FOR_EVENT (widget, event)' failed
```

Does anybody else see this?


Thanks,

Paul

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Re: [Evolution] Composing email bugs/I don't know how to do it

[Paul Menzel]

Dear John, dear Berend,


Am Montag, den 19.12.2016, 10:24 +0200 schrieb Berend De Schouwer:
> On Mon, 2016-12-19 at 08:54 +0800, John Edward Serink wrote:

> > New email, have name 1 in the TO space,
> > names 1-3 in the CC space.
> > I try and select name3 to move it to the To space, it refuses to
> > select. I highlight it and then try the Linux centre mouse button
> > trick, does not work.
> > I select it and right mouse click so that I can choose copy or cut
> > and when I right mouse click, it unhighlights.
> > I highlight name3 to update it in my address book and when I right
> > mouse clickit un highlights.
> 
> I can replicate this with 3.22.3.
> 
> I can cut and paste using the keyboard: highlight ctrl-c, ctrl-v. 
> 
> Right-click un-highlights, so "copy" does nothing.  I cannot copy and
> paste using the mouse.

Selecting names and pasting with the middle button, works for me,
though just the name is copied and then autocompletion kicks in again.

I am not completely sure, what your exact problem is though. But to get
it fixed, please create a ticket for the Evolution project in the GNOME
bug tracker [1].


Thanks,

Paul


[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Evolution

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Re: [Evolution] Broken formatting of citation with WebKit composer

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Milan, dear Ralf,


Am Montag, den 08.08.2016, 11:09 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> On Mon, 2016-08-08 at 10:57 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
> > 
> > On Sun, 2016-08-07 at 15:05 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Citations are by default not marked as preformatted, causing them to be
> > > formatted really badly with no manual interaction, as you can see with
> > > the line having *better* in it.
> > 
> > Hi,
> > there is an option Edit->Preferences->Composer Preferences->Wrap quoted
> > text in replies, which influences just this. It's there because the
> > wrapping doesn't work for everyone, though if we'll find always-working 
> > solution, then the option might be removed in the future releases.
> 
> That solved an issue for me, too :).
> 
> Before I unchecked it (and I needed to close and restart Evolution), the
> formatting looked like this:
> 
> On Mon, 2016-08-08 at 10:57 +0200, Milan Crha wrote:
> > 
> > On Sun, 2016-08-07 at 15:05 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Citations are by default not marked as preformatted, causing them to
> > > be
> > > formatted really badly with no manual interaction, as you can see
> > > with
> > > the line having *better* in it.
> > 
> > Hi,
> > there is an option Edit->Preferences->Composer Preferences->Wrap
> > quoted
> > text in replies, which influences just this. It's there because the
> > wrapping doesn't work for everyone, though if we'll find always-
> > working 
> > solution, then the option might be removed in the future releases.
> 
> But indeed, it's a little bit annoying to manually switch from
> "Preformatted" to "Normal".

Thank you very much. I confirm, that unselecting that option gets me
the desired behavior.


Thanks,

Paul

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Re: [Evolution] Bouncing emails

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Rudolf,


Am Donnerstag, den 04.08.2016, 21:58 +0200 schrieb Rudolf Künzli:
> On Thu, 2016-08-04 at 15:52 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, 2016-08-04 at 21:52 +0200, Rudolf Künzli wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hello,
> > > Is there a way to bounce messages back to the sender?
> > > I'd need that from time to time.
> > 
> > Not entirely sure what you mean by "bounce", but you can Message
> > ->Forward As->Redirect.
> 
> The message was not clear.
> I have some people sending me messages I don't like.
> Naturally I could set up a filter and delete them automatically.
> But I like to let them know that their messages are not welcome
> More clear now?

Sorry for being ignorant, but I still not totally understand your
question. If you want them to know, that the messages are not welcome,
why is replying to the message with a text, that the messages are not
welcome, not good enough? What do you mean by bouncing exactly?

In another reply you mention, that this feature was provided by email
clients back in the day. Do you remember, what they exactly did with
the message, and what is different to replying to it?


Thanks,

Paul

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[Evolution] Broken formatting of citation with WebKit composer (was: Bouncing emails)

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


this message is a good example of a problem, I am having myself.


Am Donnerstag, den 04.08.2016, 23:35 +0200 schrieb Rudolf Künzli:
> On Thu, 2016-08-04 at 22:20 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, 2016-08-04 at 21:58 +0200, Rudolf Künzli wrote:
> > > 
> > > The message was not clear.
> > > I have some people sending me messages I don't like.
> > > Naturally I could set up a filter and delete them automatically.
> > > But I like to let them know that their messages are not welcome
> > > More clear now?
> > 
> > It was already clear enough by your first mail. I don't think that
> > Evolution provides such an idiotic feature. It's possible to do
> > this
> > > 
> > > with Linux, at least by a script, but somebody doing this is not
> better
> > 
> > than any other person who sends spam. Simply blacklist unwanted
> > email
> > > 
> > > addresses by the server's option. Most, if not all email
> > > providers
> allow

Citations are by default not marked as preformatted, causing them to be
formatted really badly with no manual interaction, as you can see with
the line having *better* in it.

Additionally, trying to fix up the citation, or for example, replying
in interleaved style, and hitting return in a text, the quotation level
is increased. Trying to delete the > sign, causes the text to be
deleted and not the > sign.

To my knowledge this problem is present since switching to the WebKit
composer. I am using Evolution 3.20.4 and WebKitGTK+ 2.4.11.

Are the developers already aware of the problem? Are there already bugs
reports submitted or do I have to do it?


Thanks,

Paul

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[Evolution] How to deal with S/MIME signature where address differs from from address

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


at work we started to set up S/MIME certificates because the Apple Mail
and the associated devices seem to support those by default.

It was very easy to set this up with Evolution (3.12.9 from Debian 8
(jessie) too). Thank you for that!

Now a colleague sent an email with an S/MIME signature, but Google Mail
rewrote the from header field (see X-Google-Original-From) and
therefore the address in the From header field differed from the
address for the S/MIME certificate the message was signed with.

The signature was marked green though, so I never noticed this, until
my colleagues told me, that Apple Mail shows a warning or something
like it.

In #evolut...@irc.freenode.net I was told, that this is the expected
behavior.

> the signature doesn't have much to do with the message headers, not
> with the From; evo shows at the very bottom who signed it.

Thinking about it, I find this strange, and actually would like to be
notified if the signature address differs from the From address.

Maybe I do not understand the idea behind it, so I wanted to ask again
for the reasoning behind the current implementation.


Thanks,

Paul

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[Evolution] Attaching MIDI files takes a long time

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution users,


attaching a MIDI file to a message blocks the composer window for
almost a minute. It looks like the reason is, that the executable
`totem-video-thumbnailer` is run.

Where should I report this issue?


Thanks,

Paul

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Re: [Evolution] Mailing lists and disposable email addresses

[Paul Menzel]

Am Samstag, den 26.09.2015, 12:17 +0200 schrieb Andre Klapper:
> On Sat, 2015-09-26 at 12:04 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
> > Underneath the “From:” drop-down there is the “To:” in my setup.
> > Could you please elaborate how I can configure your setup?
> 
> https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/3.16/mail-composer-from-field-override.html

Thank you!

Paul

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Re: [Evolution] Mailing lists and disposable email addresses

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Pete,


thank you for your reply!


Am Samstag, den 26.09.2015, 00:35 +0100 schrieb Pete Biggs:
> > The problem is, when sending to that list, I’d like to set the proper
> > Reply-To header or to even change the `From` to contain the disposable
> > address as otherwise the mailing list software would for example
> > moderate or even reject it.
> > 
> > Is there a way to achieve that in Evolution, without creating an
> > account for each disposable address?
>
> When composing an email, underneath the "From:" drop-down there are 
> two text boxes that are editable - changing the "Address:" box will
> change the From: header in the outgoing email. (The From: drop-down 
> changes the mail account used to send the email - i.e. the SMTP 
> server, Sender: etc.)

Underneath the “From:” drop-down there is the “To:” in my setup. Could
you please elaborate how I can configure your setup?


Thanks,

Paul


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[Evolution] Mailing lists and disposable email addresses

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


using Evolution 3.16 I’d like to adapt to use disposable email
addresses [1], when subscribing to mailing lists. That means, for each
list a unique address is created.

For example, I’d use  when
communicating with the Evolution mailing list. Or even an address with
a hash, like .

The problem is, when sending to that list, I’d like to set the proper
Reply-To header or to even change the `From` to contain the disposable
address as otherwise the mailing list software would for example
moderate or even reject it.

Is there a way to achieve that in Evolution, without creating an
account for each disposable address?


Thanks,

Paul


[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposable_email_address

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Re: [Evolution] [solved] Using the memory error detector AddressSanitizer (ASan)

[Paul Menzel]

Am Freitag, den 15.05.2015, 15:10 + schrieb Reid Thompson:
 On Wed, 2015-05-13 at 08:36 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
  Am Montag, den 11.05.2015, 12:54 + schrieb Reid Thompson:
   On Mon, 2015-05-11 at 12:43 +, Reid Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 2015-05-09 at 16:08 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
 Am Dienstag, den 05.05.2015, 13:11 + schrieb Reid Thompson:
  On Tue, 2015-05-05 at 07:55 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
   Am Samstag, den 02.05.2015, 11:58 + schrieb Joakim Tjernlund:
You need to set LDFLAGS too
   
   Unfortunately it still fails to build when passing
   `LDFLAGS='-fsanitize=address'`.

[…]

 add linking to asan to your compile command
 
 -lasan
 
 that seems to work for my environment

thank you so much! Building Evolution-Data-Server worked for me too!

$ CFLAGS=-O1 -g -fsanitize=address -fno-omit-frame-pointer 
LDFLAGS=-fsanitize=address -lasan ./configure --disable-uoa
$ CFLAGS=-O1 -g -fsanitize=address -fno-omit-frame-pointer 
LDFLAGS=-fsanitize=address -lasan make # environment variables not necessary

Let’s see what bugs will get caught now!


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] [RFH] Using the memory error detector AddressSanitizer (ASan)

[Paul Menzel]

Am Montag, den 11.05.2015, 12:54 + schrieb Reid Thompson:
 On Mon, 2015-05-11 at 12:43 +, Reid Thompson wrote:
  On Sat, 2015-05-09 at 16:08 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
   Am Dienstag, den 05.05.2015, 13:11 + schrieb Reid Thompson:
On Tue, 2015-05-05 at 07:55 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
 Am Samstag, den 02.05.2015, 11:58 + schrieb Joakim Tjernlund:
  You need to set LDFLAGS too
 
 Unfortunately it still fails to build when passing
 `LDFLAGS='-fsanitize=address'`.

what is your complete build command and the error output
   
   /bin/sh ../libtool  --tag=CC   --mode=link gcc ...
 
  from the brief looking that I did, building as you want requires the
  compilation to be done with clang -- correct???   not gcc ??? 
 
 ok - i see both:
 AddressSanitizer is a part of LLVM starting with version 3.1 and a part
 of GCC starting with version 4.8
 
 and
 
 In order to use AddressSanitizer you will need to compile and link
 your program using clang with the -fsanitize=address switch.
 
 on https://code.google.com/p/address-sanitizer/wiki/AddressSanitizer

The information is outdated as you found out. Current GCC supports ASan
too.

 i have 
 gcc version 4.8.4 (Gentoo 4.8.4 p1.4, pie-0.6.1)
 
 and  the below works for me.
 
 % cat tests/use-after-free.c
 #include stdlib.h
 int main() {
   char *x = (char*)malloc(10 * sizeof(char*));
   free(x);
   return x[5];
 }
 
 gcc  -fsanitize=address -O1 -fno-omit-frame-pointer -g tests/use-after-free.c
 
 this also works for me
 
 clang -fsanitize=address -O1 -fno-omit-frame-pointer -g   
 tests/use-after-free.c

Yes, that works for me too. The problem seems to be with Evolution’s
build system.


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] Does Evolution 3.16 with GNOME 3.14?

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Tom,


Am Dienstag, den 05.05.2015, 15:40 +0200 schrieb Tom:
 Am Dienstag, den 05.05.2015, 07:51 +0200 schrieb Paul Menzel:

  is running Evolution 3.16 with GNOME 3.14 supported, that means tested
  by someone? Will all futures work?
  
  I am thinking about if it’s feasible to put Evolution 3.16 in Debian
  Backports [1] for Debian 8 (Jessie), which has GNOME 3.14 packaged.
 
 Can we get a short announcement here on the list, when 3.16 is available
 in Jessie-Backports ?

Sure. But I estimate I won’t be able to work on it for at least three
months. I also have to contact the Debian GNOME team first.


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] [RFH] Using the memory error detector AddressSanitizer (ASan)

[Paul Menzel]

Am Dienstag, den 05.05.2015, 13:11 + schrieb Reid Thompson:
 On Tue, 2015-05-05 at 07:55 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
  Am Samstag, den 02.05.2015, 11:58 + schrieb Joakim Tjernlund:
   You need to set LDFLAGS too
  
  Unfortunately it still fails to build when passing
  `LDFLAGS='-fsanitize=address'`.
 
 what is your complete build command and the error output

$ CFLAGS=-O1 -g -fsanitize=address -fno-omit-frame-pointer 
LDFLAGS=-fsanitize=address ./autogen.sh --disable-uoa
$ CFLAGS=-O1 -g -fsanitize=address -fno-omit-frame-pointer 
LDFLAGS=-fsanitize=address make V=1
[…]
/bin/sh ../libtool  --tag=CC   --mode=link gcc -Wall -Wextra 
-Wdeprecated-declarations -Werror-implicit-function-declaration 
-Wformat-security -Winit-self -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-include-dirs 
-Wmissing-noreturn -Wpointer-arith -Wredundant-decls -Wundef -Wwrite-strings 
-Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wno-missing-field-initializers -Wno-sign-compare 
-Wno-unused-parameter -Wnested-externs -fno-strict-aliasing -O1 -g 
-fsanitize=address -fno-omit-frame-pointer -version-info 49:0:0
-fsanitize=address -Wl,--no-undefined -o libcamel-1.2.la -rpath /usr/local/lib 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-enumtypes.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-address.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-async-closure.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-block-file.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-certdb.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-charset-map.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-cipher-context.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-data-cache.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-data-wrapper.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-db.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-debug.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-file-utils.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-filter-driver.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-filter-input-stream.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-filter-output-stream.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-filter-search.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-folder-search.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-folder-summary.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-folder-thread.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-folder.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-gpg-context.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-html-parser.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-iconv.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-index.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-internet-address.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-junk-filter.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-local-settings.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-lock.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-medium.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-memchunk.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mempool.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-filter-basic.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-filter-bestenc.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-filter-canon.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-filter-charset.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-filter-crlf.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-filter-enriched.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-filter-from.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-filter-gzip.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-filter-html.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-filter-index.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-filter-linewrap.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-filter-pgp.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-filter-progress.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-filter-tohtml.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-filter-windows.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-filter-yenc.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-filter.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-message.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-parser.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-part-utils.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-part.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-tables.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-mime-utils.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-msgport.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-multipart-encrypted.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-multipart-signed.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-multipart.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-net-utils.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-network-service.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-network-settings.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-nntp-address.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-null-output-stream.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-object-bag.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-object.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-offline-folder.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-offline-settings.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-offline-store.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-operation.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-partition-table.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-provider.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-sasl-anonymous.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-sasl-cram-md5.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-sasl-digest-md5.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-sasl-gssapi.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-sasl-login.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-sasl-ntlm.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-sasl-plain.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-sasl-popb4smtp.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-sasl.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-search-private.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-search-sql-sexp.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-service.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-session.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-settings.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-sexp.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-smime-context.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-store-settings.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-store-summary.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-store.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-stream-buffer.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-stream-filter.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-stream-fs.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-stream-mem.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-stream-null.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-stream.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel-string-utils.lo 
libcamel_1_2_la-camel-subscribable.lo libcamel_1_2_la-camel

Re: [Evolution] [RFH] Using the memory error detector AddressSanitizer (ASan)

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Joakim,


Thank you for your quick response.


Am Samstag, den 02.05.2015, 11:58 + schrieb Joakim Tjernlund:
 You need to set LDFLAGS too

Unfortunately it still fails to build when passing
`LDFLAGS='-fsanitize=address'`.


Thanks,

Paul


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[Evolution] Does Evolution 3.16 with GNOME 3.14?

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


is running Evolution 3.16 with GNOME 3.14 supported, that means tested
by someone? Will all futures work?

I am thinking about if it’s feasible to put Evolution 3.16 in Debian
Backports [1] for Debian 8 (Jessie), which has GNOME 3.14 packaged.


Thanks,

Paul


[1] http://backports.debian.org/


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Re: [Evolution] HTTP Error message corrupt with Yahoo CalDAV

[Paul Menzel]

Dear James,


Am Samstag, den 02.05.2015, 13:51 -0600 schrieb James Lay:
 Topic says it...looking at:
 
 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/sync-yahoo-calendar-evolution-linux
 
 And yeaeverything appears ok with the account info..I've got solid
 TLS 1.2...client/server hello, client key exchange, even change cipher
 spec and encrypted handshake, but then Evo pops up with HTTP Error:
 message corrupt.

Please capture a debug log [1] and post it here. Make sure to remove
private information beforehand.

$ dpkg -S evolution-calendar-factory
evolution-data-server: /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-calendar-factory
$ file /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-calendar-factory
/usr/lib/evolution/evolution-calendar-factory: ELF 32-bit LSB shared 
object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), …
$ CALDAV_DEBUG=all /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-calendar-factory  
logfile

As Evolution runs  Make sure you run the command before starting
Evolution. Maybe even your desktop starts it. Check it with the
following command.

$ ps aux | grep evolution-calendar-factory

 Evolution version is 3.10.4 on Ubuntu 14.04.  Thanks for any assistance.

Could you try a live system with a newer Evolution version and see if
it’s fixed there, please?


Thanks,

Paul


PS: Please just send plain text messages with no HTML part to mailing
lists. Thank you!


[1] https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Debugging#CalDAV


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Re: [Evolution] [RFH] Using the memory error detector AddressSanitizer (ASan)

[Paul Menzel]

Am Freitag, den 01.05.2015, 21:37 +0200 schrieb Paul Menzel:
 Dear coreboot folk,
 
 
 with Debian Sid/unstable, self-built Evolution and Evolution Data Server
 3.12.10 still crashes regularly. Instead of using Valgrind, which is too
 slow, could you please tell me, how I can build Evolution with
 `-fsanitize=address` [1]?

Doing `CFLAGS='-g -O2 -fsanitize=address' ./configure --disable-uoa` and
then running `make` fails with several errors of the kind below.

.libs/libcamel_1_2_la-camel-stream-process.o: In function 
`camel_stream_process_connect':
/evolution-data-server/camel/camel-stream-process.c:248: undefined 
reference to `__asan_option_detect_stack_use_after_return'
/evolution-data-server/camel/camel-stream-process.c:266: undefined 
reference to `__asan_report_store4'
/evolution-data-server/camel/camel-stream-process.c:251: undefined 
reference to `__asan_report_load4'
/evolution-data-server/camel/camel-stream-process.c:251: undefined 
reference to `__asan_report_load4'
/evolution-data-server/camel/camel-stream-process.c:254: undefined 
reference to `__asan_report_load4'
/evolution-data-server/camel/camel-stream-process.c:260: undefined 
reference to `__asan_report_store4'
/evolution-data-server/camel/camel-stream-process.c:248: undefined 
reference to `__asan_stack_malloc_1'


Thanks,

Paul


 [1] https://code.google.com/p/address-sanitizer


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution hangs incorporating local mail

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Jonathan,


Am Montag, den 09.03.2015, 11:53 -0700 schrieb Jonathan Ryshpan:
 My system brings its mail into $MAIL (/var/spool/mail/jonrysh) using
 fetchmail, which evolution incorporates as a Local Delivery File.
 Frequently, almost always immediately after starting the system,
 evolution incorporates some mail and then hangs.  Attempts to exit
 evolution using File-Quit fail: the folders panel goes gray, but
 evolution never terminates; same result from clicking the (X) on the
 window decorations.  If evolution is terminated using 
 
 evolution --force-shutdown
 
 and then restarted the mail in $MAIL is usually incorporated OK, though
 sometimes it takes more than one try.  When this is done, many messages
 are incorporated twice.

Judging from the X-Mailer header field, you are using Evolution 3.12.11
(3.12.11-1.fc21). Is that correct?

To my knowledge, mbox is not used as often as Maildir, so there might
indeed be problems.

When Evolution hangs, could you please install the debug symbol package,
attach with GDB, `gdb --pid $theevolutionpid`, and provide a backtrace
(`set logging on /tmp/20150309--evolution-hang--backtrace.txt`, `t a a
bt f`)?

 One odd thing is that $MAIL shows a file size of 0 once the
 incorporation process has started, even though mail is incorporated OK
 after evolution is restarted.  Example:
 
 $ ls -l $MAIL
 -rw-rw. 1 jonrysh mail 0 Mar  9
 11:47 /var/spool/mail/jonrysh
 
 Anyone know what's going on or how to fix?

Very strange. Hopefully somebody else can help.


Thanks,

Paul


PS: It’d be awesome, if you would just send plain text messages to
mailing list with no HTML parts.


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[Evolution] Please share your Valgrind suppressions file

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


running Evolution under the Valgrind [1] generates a lot of messages,
where some of them are false positives or expected and therefore could
be omitted using a suppressions file.

Could you please share the ones you use?


Thanks,

Paul


[1]  https://wiki.gnome.org/Valgrind


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Re: [Evolution] [sqlite] Segfault with Evolution and patched SQLite 3.8.7.4

[Paul Menzel]

Am Freitag, den 09.01.2015, 21:04 -0500 schrieb Richard Hipp:
 On 1/9/15, Paul Menzel wrote:
  Am Dienstag, den 30.12.2014, 16:15 +0100 schrieb Paul Menzel:
 
  With still around 1.3 GB free on the partition mounted to `/var/`,
  Evolution crashed with the f received the following segmentation fault
  today.
 
 Which build of SQLite are you using.  What is SQLITE_SOURCE_ID?

I downloaded the source of Debian package for SQLite 3.8.7.4-1 and
applied the patch from [2] (also attached).

$ /usr/bin/sqlite3 --version
3.8.7.4 2014-12-09 01:34:36
f66f7a17b78ba617acde90fc810107f34f1a1f2e

 Also, we have some new sqlite3.c and sqlite3.h files for the
 upcoming 3.8.8 release.  Can I encourage you to try them out.

I’ll try to test the 3.8.8 files. Unfortunately, I have not found a way
to reproduce the issue.

  0xb3f9af51 in sqlite3Strlen30 (z=0x18 error: Cannot access memory 
  at address 0x18) at sqlite3.c:22902
 
 
  Thread 53 (Thread 0xa7e04b40 (LWP 3576)):
  #0  0xb3f9af51 in sqlite3Strlen30 (z=0x18 error: Cannot access 
  memory at address 0x18) at sqlite3.c:22902
 
 sqlite3Strlen30() is called with an invalid string pointer,
 apparently.  The sqlite3Strlen30() function is just a strlen()
 implementation that returns int instead of size_t. Stack frames 0
 through 5 look fine, except for the invalid string pointer, of coruse.
 
  #5  0xb3f9ce21 in unixSync (id=0xacbe7898, flags=2) at 
  sqlite3.c:28396
  dirfd = 668585276
  rc = optimized out
  pFile = 0xacbe7898
  isDataOnly = 0
  isFullsync = 0
 
 The unixSync routine above calls frame 4 from
 (https://www.sqlite.org/src/artifact/949cdedc74dbf3c1?ln=3589).
 Apparently, pFile-zPath is an invalid pointer.
 
 
  #6  0xb7ad33d6 in call_old_file_Sync (flags=optimized out, 
  cFile=optimized out) at camel-db.c:66
 
 The pFile object with the invalid zPath field is a parameter to
 unixSync(), and hence comes from call_old_file_Sync(), which is not a
 part of the SQLite source tree.  I don't have the sources to
 camel-db.c so I cannot trace this any further.

You can view the source at [3].

static gint
call_old_file_Sync (CamelSqlite3File *cFile,
gint flags)
{
g_return_val_if_fail (old_vfs != NULL, SQLITE_ERROR);
g_return_val_if_fail (cFile != NULL, SQLITE_ERROR);

g_return_val_if_fail (cFile-old_vfs_file-pMethods != NULL, 
SQLITE_ERROR);
return cFile-old_vfs_file-pMethods-xSync 
(cFile-old_vfs_file, flags);
}

 My guess (based on the name of the function) is that camel-db.c is
 trying to sync an sqlite3_file object that has been previously
 destroyed.

That sounds reasonable. I created a ticket in GNOME’s bug tracker
Bugzilla and it was assigned the ID #742688 [4]. I added you to the CC
list. Hopefully, you do not mind.

 This appears to be completely unrelated to the previous issue.  The
 previous issue was that a file was not being extended correctly
 because of a lack of disk space, so that a memcpy() into a mmap() of
 that file segfaulted.  That does not appear to be what is happening
 here, unless I'm missing something.

[…]

As always thank you very much for the quick and detailed reply!


Thanks,

Paul


  [1] https://packages.debian.org/corekeeper
  [2] 
  https://www.sqlite.org/src/info/776648412c30dce206f1024ff849c2cb025bb006
[3] 
http://sources.debian.net/src/evolution-data-server/3.12.9~git20141128.5242b0-2/camel/camel-db.c/#L66
[4] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=742688
Index: src/os_unix.c
==
--- src/os_unix.c
+++ src/os_unix.c
@@ -3716,20 +3716,20 @@
   ** on systems that do not have a real fallocate() system call.
   */
   int nBlk = buf.st_blksize;  /* File-system block size */
   i64 iWrite; /* Next offset to write to */
 
-  if( robust_ftruncate(pFile-h, nSize) ){
-pFile-lastErrno = errno;
-return unixLogError(SQLITE_IOERR_TRUNCATE, ftruncate, pFile-zPath);
-  }
   iWrite = ((buf.st_size + 2*nBlk - 1)/nBlk)*nBlk-1;
   while( iWritenSize ){
 int nWrite = seekAndWrite(pFile, iWrite, , 1);
 if( nWrite!=1 ) return SQLITE_IOERR_WRITE;
 iWrite += nBlk;
   }
+  if( robust_ftruncate(pFile-h, nSize) ){
+pFile-lastErrno = errno;
+return unixLogError(SQLITE_IOERR_TRUNCATE, ftruncate, pFile-zPath);
+  }
 #endif
 }
   }
 
 #if SQLITE_MAX_MMAP_SIZE0

Index: src/vdbesort.c
==
--- src/vdbesort.c
+++ src/vdbesort.c
@@ -1130,16 +1130,16 @@
 ** Whether or not the file does end up memory mapped of course depends on
 ** the specific VFS implementation.
 */
 static void vdbeSorterExtendFile(sqlite3 *db, sqlite3_file *pFd, i64 nByte

Re: [Evolution] [sqlite] Segfault with Evolution and patched SQLite 3.8.7.4 (was: Bus error with Evolution 3.12.9 and SQLite 3.8.7.4)

[Paul Menzel]

Am Dienstag, den 30.12.2014, 16:15 +0100 schrieb Paul Menzel:
 Am Dienstag, den 30.12.2014, 08:21 -0500 schrieb Richard Hipp:
  On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:37 AM, László Böszörményi (GCS) wrote:
 
it’s not obvious that these might cause such a regression.
  
   I'm the maintainer of SQLite3 in Debian and can't reproduce it on
   AMD64. Even if I've a local mailbox, normal IMAP4 ones and some from
   GMail. OK, other than the updated SQLite3 library I run on a clean
   Jessie.
  
  Our latest theory is that the problem only arises when /var/tmp runs out of
  space.
 
 That seems to be a reasonable theory. Looking at `~/.bash_history` I
 indeed cleaned up `/var/crash/1300`, where my core dump files are stored
 by corekeeper [1], and only downgraded to SQLite 3.8.7.1 afterward.
 
 Upgrading to SQLite 3.8.7.4 again I am unable to reproduce the crash
 with 2 GB free space on the partition `/var`.
 
 I’ll rebuild SQLite now with the fix applied [2] and try to reproduce
 the issue by filling up `/var` intentionally.

With still around 1.3 GB free on the partition mounted to `/var/`,
Evolution crashed with the f received the following segmentation fault
today.

0xb3f9af51 in sqlite3Strlen30 (z=0x18 error: Cannot access memory at 
address 0x18) at sqlite3.c:22902

Here is part of the backtrace.

Thread 54 (Thread 0xa24feb40 (LWP 3581)):
#0  0xb7fdcd3c in __kernel_vsyscall ()
No symbol table info available.
#1  0xb7cb5fdf in fsync () at ../sysdeps/unix/syscall-template.S:81
No locals.
#2  0xb3f9cde9 in full_fsync (fullSync=0, dataOnly=0, fd=optimized 
out) at sqlite3.c:28292
rc = optimized out
#3  unixSync (id=0xa14e4b00, flags=2) at sqlite3.c:28381
rc = optimized out
pFile = 0xa14e4b00
isDataOnly = 0
isFullsync = 0
#4  0xb7ad33d6 in call_old_file_Sync (flags=optimized out, 
cFile=optimized out) at camel-db.c:66
No locals.
#5  sync_request_thread_cb (task_data=0xa132c4d8, null_data=0x0) at 
camel-db.c:92
sync_data = 0xa132c4d8
done = optimized out
#6  0xb52d7e64 in g_thread_pool_thread_proxy (data=0x81a73958) at 
/build/glib2.0-EvFudu/glib2.0-2.42.1/./glib/gthreadpool.c:307
task = 0xa132c4d8
#7  0xb52d73da in g_thread_proxy (data=0x890b0230) at 
/build/glib2.0-EvFudu/glib2.0-2.42.1/./glib/gthread.c:764
No locals.
#8  0xb7caeefb in start_thread (arg=0xa24feb40) at pthread_create.c:309
__res = optimized out
pd = 0xa24feb40
now = optimized out
unwind_buf = {cancel_jmp_buf = {{jmp_buf = {-1211363328, 
-1571820736, 4001536, -1571823064, -643453236, -742727961}, 
  mask_was_saved = 0}}, priv = {pad = {0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0}, 
data = {prev = 0x0, cleanup = 0x0, canceltype = 0}}}
not_first_call = optimized out
pagesize_m1 = optimized out
sp = optimized out
freesize = optimized out
__PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = start_thread
#9  0xb51a6dfe in clone () at 
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/clone.S:129
No locals.

Thread 53 (Thread 0xa7e04b40 (LWP 3576)):
#0  0xb3f9af51 in sqlite3Strlen30 (z=0x18 error: Cannot access memory 
at address 0x18) at sqlite3.c:22902
z2 = 0x18 error: Cannot access memory at address 0x18
#1  sqlite3VXPrintf (pAccum=pAccum@entry=0xa7e03e30, 
bFlags=bFlags@entry=0, fmt=0xb400f0f8 s, ap=0xa7e03e90 \003) at 
sqlite3.c:21385
c = optimized out
bufpt = 0x18 error: Cannot access memory at address 0x18
precision = optimized out
length = optimized out
idx = optimized out
width = optimized out
flag_leftjustify = 0 '\000'
flag_plussign = 24 '\030'
flag_blanksign = 0 '\000'
flag_alternateform = 0 '\000'
flag_altform2 = 0 '\000'
flag_zeropad = 0 '\000'
flag_long = 0 '\000'
flag_longlong = 0 '\000'
done = optimized out
xtype = 6 '\006'
bArgList = 0 '\000'
useIntern = 0 '\000'
prefix = optimized out
longvalue = optimized out
realvalue = optimized out
infop = optimized out
zOut = optimized out
nOut = optimized out
zExtra = 0x0
exp = optimized out
e2 = optimized out
nsd = optimized out
rounder = optimized out
flag_dp = optimized out
flag_rtz = optimized out
pArgList = 0x0
buf = 
\203\210,\000\000\000\066W+\265\001\000\000\000$\000\000\000\271\231\264

Re: [Evolution] [sqlite] Bus error with Evolution 3.12.9 and SQLite 3.8.7.4

[Paul Menzel]

Am Montag, den 29.12.2014, 16:37 +0100 schrieb László Böszörményi (GCS):
 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Paul Menzel wrote:
  using Debian Sid/unstable and upgrading from libsqlite3-0 3.8.7.2 to
  3.8.7.4, Evolution 3.12.9 started to crash with a bus error [1].

 Just for the record, do you have an Intel or AMD type of CPU?

My CPU model is AMD E-350D APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics. I am using a
32-bin Linux kernel and userspace.

$ uname -m
i686

[…]


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] [sqlite] Bus error with Evolution 3.12.9 and SQLite 3.8.7.4

[Paul Menzel]

Am Dienstag, den 30.12.2014, 08:21 -0500 schrieb Richard Hipp:
 On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:37 AM, László Böszörményi (GCS) wrote:

   it’s not obvious that these might cause such a regression.
 
  I'm the maintainer of SQLite3 in Debian and can't reproduce it on
  AMD64. Even if I've a local mailbox, normal IMAP4 ones and some from
  GMail. OK, other than the updated SQLite3 library I run on a clean
  Jessie.
 
 Our latest theory is that the problem only arises when /var/tmp runs out of
 space.

That seems to be a reasonable theory. Looking at `~/.bash_history` I
indeed cleaned up `/var/crash/1300`, where my core dump files are stored
by corekeeper [1], and only downgraded to SQLite 3.8.7.1 afterward.

Upgrading to SQLite 3.8.7.4 again I am unable to reproduce the crash
with 2 GB free space on the partition `/var`.

I’ll rebuild SQLite now with the fix applied [2] and try to reproduce
the issue by filling up `/var` intentionally.

Thank you for the awesome support so far!


Thanks,

Paul


[1] https://packages.debian.org/corekeeper
[2] https://www.sqlite.org/src/info/776648412c30dce206f1024ff849c2cb025bb006


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[Evolution] Bus error with Evolution 3.12.9 and SQLite 3.8.7.4

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution and SQLite folks,


using Debian Sid/unstable and upgrading from libsqlite3-0 3.8.7.2 to
3.8.7.4, Evolution 3.12.9 started to crash with a bus error [1].

After downgrading to SQLite 3.8.7.1 from Debian Jessie/testing I was
unable to reproduce the issue.

Looking at the changelog [2]

2014-12-09 (3.8.7.4)
  * Bug fix: Add in a mutex that was omitted from the previous
release.
  * SQLITE_SOURCE_ID: 2014-12-09 01:34:36
f66f7a17b78ba617acde90fc810107f34f1a1f2e
  * SHA1 for sqlite3.c: 0a56693a3c24aa3217098afab1b6fecccdedfd23

2014-12-06 (3.8.7.3)
  * Bug fix: Ensure the cached KeyInfo objects (an internal
abstraction not visible to the application) do not go stale when
operating in shared cache mode and frequently closing and
reopening some database connections while leaving other database
connections on the same shared cache open continuously. Ticket
e4a18565a36884b00edf.
  * Bug fix: Recognize that any column in the right-hand table of a
LEFT JOIN can be NULL even if the column has a NOT NULL
constraint. Do not apply optimizations that assume the column is
never NULL. Ticket 6fd550f5b0ee7ed.
  * SQLITE_SOURCE_ID: 2014-12-05 22:29:24
647e77e853e81a5effeb4c33477910400a67ba86
  * SHA1 for sqlite3.c: 3ad2f5ba3a4a3e3e51a1dac9fda9224b359f0261

it’s not obvious that these might cause such a regression.

Please find the backtraces attached to the bug reported in the GNOME
Bugzilla [1].


Thanks,

Paul


PS: I have not submitted a bug report to the Debian BTS yet, as I do not
know if it is a bug in Evolution or SQLite 3 and I want to avoid a false
assignment as done by myself in [3].


[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=742080
[2] http://www.sqlite.org/changes.html
[3] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738965


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Re: [Evolution] UTF-8: Non-ASCII in subject: –

[Paul Menzel]

Am Sonntag, den 21.12.2014, 13:40 +0100 schrieb Andre Klapper:
 On Sun, 2014-12-21 at 12:55 +0100, Paul Menzel wrote:
  with Debian Sid/unstable and Evolution 3.12.9~git20141130.241663-1 using
  the sign – in the subject line, it is incorrectly shown in the message
  list, but correctly shown in the message view. Let’s see if you can
  reproduce this.
 
 Not with this message. 3.12.8 on Fedora 21.

Hmm, I do not have any problems with this message either.

 What does incorrectly actually mean?

I hope the attached screenshot clears it up. In the message list some
strange (non-printable?) character is shown. Unfortunately I am unable
to directly copy it.


Thanks,

Paul


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[Evolution] UTF-8: Non-ASCII in subject: –

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


with Debian Sid/unstable and Evolution 3.12.9~git20141130.241663-1 using
the sign – in the subject line, it is incorrectly shown in the message
list, but correctly shown in the message view. Let’s see if you can
reproduce this.


Thanks,

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.10.4 locks up

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Jonathan,


Am Freitag, den 14.11.2014, 14:27 -0800 schrieb Jonathan Ryshpan:
 Every so often, randomly, 2 or 3 times per week, evolution stops
 responding to every kind of input: keyboard, clicking on messages,
 clicking on menu items, etc.

what version of Evolution and what distribution do you use? Ah, 3.10.4
and Fedora 20 from the end of your message.

 Except that cover and uncover events work properly; the screen is
 repainted as needed when part of an evolution window is uncovered.
 Process CPU usage is at real time or a little faster (indicating that
 it's using more than one processor).  Has anyone else seen something
 like this?
 
 System is 4 processor AMD x86_64 running Fedora-20 with all updates
 installed
 Evolution is version 3.10.4

Do you have a way to upgrade to Evolution 3.12.8, so we can figure out
if it has been fixed in the meantime?

At any rate, you should submit a bug report to the GNOME Bugzilla bug
tracker. Try to install the debug packages, and next time, it locks up
again, try to run `perf top` to see what is happening.

Then stop the output and attach with GDB to get a backtrace.

$ ps aux | grep evolution # get process ID
$ gdb --pid thepid
(gdb) set logging on /tmp/20141115--evolution--backtrace.txt
(gdb) t a a bt full
(gdb) exit

Make sure the log does not contain your passwords (it shouldn’t, but
better be safe than sorry) and paste that to the bug report.


Thanks,

Paul


PS: When sending to mailing lists, please just sent plain text messages
with no HTML. You can set that up in the preferences or for each message
you compose under “Format”.


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Re: [Evolution] Broken threading

[Paul Menzel]

Dear G. W.,


Am Samstag, den 25.10.2014, 15:52 +0100 schrieb G.W. Haywood:

 On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Paul Menzel wrote:
 
  It?d be great if you followed the netiquette! ...
 
 I've read Mr. Raymond, thank you, and it'd be great if people didn't
 make unjustified and incorrect assumptions.  As you have seen I keep
 the subject line intact.  I properly trim and quote.  The lines I send
 are less than 76 characters long.  Although I can be a bit caustic I
 don't abuse people and I try to stay on topic.  My sig follows after a
 double hyphen and is less than four lines.

as Pete pointed out, you also need to add a space afterward. Currently
Evolution does not remove it automatically.

 Oh, and if anyone cares, I don't send UTF-8 or ISO-8859-1 (especially
 not in 'From' headers - and no, Mr. Menzel, despite your use of UTF-8
 that wasn't directed at you :).

Thank you for the pointer. ;-) I did not find this rule in “How To Ask
Questions The Smart Way” [1]. Do you mean that write-up? I personally
prefer the written down netiquette at openSUSE [2]. But it does not
mention character encoding (and breaking threading) either.

 This list is like a pit full of vipers.  I've seen people come here
 for help, and go away so bruised by the experience they completely
 give up on Evolution and never come back.  I'd like to put you all in
 a bag and shake it until teeth fall out.  Netiquette?  The myopia here
 is truly staggering.  Flame a first time poster because he didn't know
 what his version number was, nor even that he had one, but for pity's
 sake do *not* mess up the threading.
 
 One of the responses to my earlier comments was that if the thread is
 broken he would consider ignoring it.  That might be rational on some
 other lists, but since this one is _devoted_ to problems with a mail
 client, it seems rather stupid.  It's like my doctor refusing to treat
 me for laryngitis if I can't speak clearly to explain what's wrong.

I like your analogies. Anyway, I guess if you try to help on this list
and get the impression that the poster did not do her/his homework and
expects only free support, you’ll get upset.

 One of the posters to the earlier thread was kind enough to write for
 me a little alpine-digest-list-threading-HOWTO.  He talked about using
 'V' to view the message attachment.  Well, there go those assumptions
 again.  Unluckily he neglected to test his theory, which is all that
 it was.  Pointless noise.

Judging from the other responses, MIME formatted digests are needed for
that to work. And in my opinion, it is a lot to ask to install another
MUA, Alpine in that case, and configure it to test the theory.

 You see, there are no attachments on the Evolution users' digest list.
 
 And you, Mr. Menzel, knowing I'm on the digest list, sent this:
 
  -- next part --
  A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
  Name: screenshot-of-broken-threading.png
 
 C'mon guys, wake up, this is all public and it's embarrassing.

Point taken. I actually thought about replying to all, but forgot in the
end. That looks actually like the solution. If you know somebody only
gets the digest messages, just reply to all or only put that person in
CC. That way, the message is received earlier and it is easy to reply to
that message regardless what digest options are used. (The first answer
of the digest user will break the threading though, when not using MIME
digest and replying to the attached message, I guess.)

So I’ll try that know. Please tell me if that is incorrect.

 If someone wants to put some effort into improving the list software
 of course I'll be happy to help in testing it, but as I've said before
 I'm on the digest list for good reasons.  Now you've seen one of them.

Sorry, for asking. Do you mean not wanting to receive attachments?


Thanks,

Paul


[1] http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[2] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_list_netiquette


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Re: [Evolution] [solved] [Calendar] Automatically send invitations to participants of a meeting

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Milan,


Am Donnerstag, den 23.10.2014, 08:58 +0200 schrieb Milan Crha:
 On Thu, 2014-10-23 at 00:51 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
  When scheduling a meeting, I can list the participants. Is there an
  option that Evolution sends an invitation to these automatically? That
  would save me from having to manually right click on the vent and choose
  “Forward as iCalendar” in the context menu [2]?
  
  I am using Debian Sid/unstable with Evolution 3.12.7.

 it's weird, because if you are an organizer and you change anything in 
 the meeting, then you should be asked by the evolution whether you 
 want to notify the participants or not.

it turns out that the option `Server sends invitations` was checked.
After unchecking it and creating a new meeting, Evolution correctly
asked me, if it should send out invitations. Unfortunately it used a
different account for sending than the selected account for the
organizer [1].

[…]


Thanks,

Paul


[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739207


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Re: [Evolution] 3.12.7: Crash with segfault accessing the junk folder (was: Junk)

[Paul Menzel]

Am Samstag, den 25.10.2014, 06:28 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
 The Junk folder shoes one unread mail. If I click the Junk folder,
 Evolution segfaults while generating the message list.
 
 [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ evolution
 [snip]
 (evolution:13377): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_closure_unref: assertion 
 'closure-ref_count  0' failed
 Segmentation fault (core dumped)
 
 :(

Please install the packages containing the debug symbols and create a
stacktrace/backtrace with the stored core dump file. (There should be a
file `core.*`, containing the process ID 13377, somewhere on your
system. Run `gdb -c path/to/core_dump_file`.

(gdb) set logging on /tmp/evolution-crash-junk-backtrace.txt
(gdb) t a a bt f

Please open a ticket in the GNOME bug tracker Bugzilla [1] and attach
the backtrace there and reply to this thread with the ID it was assigned
(URL).

 [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Q evolution evolution-data-server 
 evolution-bogofilter  evolution-spamassassin
 evolution 3.12.7-1
 evolution-data-server 3.12.7.1-1
 evolution-bogofilter 3.12.7-1
 evolution-spamassassin 3.12.7-1
 
 POP accounts only, and after doing this
 https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2014-October/msg00174.html I 
 did receive Junk that didn't make Evolution crash, JFTR it wasn't Junk that 
 fits to the filter. I didn't upgrade any package.
 
 Is there a way to delete the junk-mail?


Thanks,

Paul


[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Evolution
[2] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Evolution-Data-Server


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[Evolution] Broken threading (was: Restoring data to new HDD [OT])

[Paul Menzel]

Am Samstag, den 25.10.2014, 13:23 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:

[…]

 Actually at least this last mail from you shows
 
 In-Reply-To: mailman.2796.1414230026.2137.evolution-l...@gnome.org
 References:  mailman.2796.1414230026.2137.evolution-l...@gnome.org
 
 But when sorting by thread, there's no related mail.
 
 If I sort by subject, I just see one other mail with the same subject
 and also no follow-ups.
 
 If I scroll through the received mails I find a few other mails with the
 same subject.
 
 Perhaps Evolution is broken.

Not in that regard! Please read the other messages again. Alpine is
doing the right thing and uses the messages IDs from the *digest*
message. But that is the *incorrect* message to reply to.

[…]


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[Evolution] Broken threading (was: Restoring data to new HDD [OT])

[Paul Menzel]

Dear G. W.,


Am Samstag, den 25.10.2014, 11:59 +0100 schrieb G.W. Haywood:

 On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 
  If you break threading ...
 
 Nabble manages to follow the threads, why can't your mail client?
 
 http://gnome-evolution-general.1774414.n4.nabble.com/Restoring-data-to-new-HDD-td4659906.html

Nabble probably threads according to the subject line, which is error
prone. Just see how that works for all these messages with just “Hi” in
the subject line.

 Look, this all started because I tried to help Don and Milan.

[…]

Thank you for helping! But you have to respect such responses on a list
for a MUA (mail client) supporting threading very well and people using
it. ;-)


Thanks,

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[Evolution] [Calendar] Automatically send invitations to participants of a meeting

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution users,


I started to use Evolution’s calendar with the Radicale CalDAV
(calendar) and CardDAV (contact) server [1] and the client, in this case
Evolution, has to send out the invitations as the server does not
support that.

When scheduling a meeting, I can list the participants. Is there an
option that Evolution sends an invitation to these automatically? That
would save me from having to manually right click on the vent and choose
“Forward as iCalendar” in the context menu [2]?

I am using Debian Sid/unstable with Evolution 3.12.7.


Thanks,

Paul


[1] http://radicale.org/
[2] 
https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-calendar-sending-invitations.html.en


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Re: [Evolution] indefinite network connection timeouts, again

[Paul Menzel]

Am Mittwoch, den 08.10.2014, 23:25 -0400 schrieb Eugene Kanter:
 Every time I start my 3.12.5 (Fedora 20 copr repository) Refreshing
 folder.. status messages with animated foot stay indefinitely.

What accounts do you have? What provider do you use? What account type
is that?

 The workaround is to select File-Work Offline, kill evolution process
 (it does not exit upon File-Exit) by sending two kill signals in a row,
 restart evolution and switch to online mode.
 
 I've been reporting different indefinite timeouts for several years and
 releases

Could you please list the bug reports you submitted?

 with neither debug nor workaround solution offered.

Please follow [1]. Please submit a bug report with the content of
`logfile` from the command below and mention the report number and URL
in your reply.

CAMEL_DEBUG=all evolution  logfile

Should it hang again, please do

$ ps aux | grep evolution # look at PID of Evolution process
$ gdb --pid evolution-pid # substitute evolution-pid with the
PID \
from above

Please make sure you have the debug packages installed in Fedora.

In the GDB command line, do the following.

(gdb) set logging on /tmp/20141009--evolution-hang-taabtf.txt
(gdb) t a a bt f
(gdb) exit

Please look at `tmp/20141009--evolution-hang-taabtf.txt` to not contain
any passwords (it should not) and paste the content of the file into the
comment of your bug report.

 Needless to say that other mail clients don't exhibit any network
 problems on the same system...

That’s a good indication that Evolution can be fixed.


Thanks,

Paul


[1] https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Debugging


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[Evolution] Cursor position not correctly updated after some time

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


with Debian Sid/unstable I experience for a long time that the cursor
position is not correctly updated after some time. Either the cursor
just stop blinking or disappears. I can continue to write and can
“imagine” the invisible cursor. Changing the virtual desktop and going
back the cursor reappears.

I have experienced this problems since at least Evolution 3.4 but
thought it was related to me using the window manager awesome [1]. Now
my mother experiences the same problem with Evolution 3.14 using GNOME
3.14. Did somebody else experience this too?

This happens on systems with AMD and Nvidia graphics devices.


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] FYI, freedomsponsors.org

[Paul Menzel]

Am Freitag, den 15.02.2013, 09:59 -0500 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams:
 http://www.freedomsponsors.org/

Thank you for sharing. I would have missed it.

 It may come to nothing, this type of idea has before,  but LibreOffice
 is looking at acknowledging freedomsponsors.org.  I don't know how GNOME
 feels about such things.

The Web interface looks very promising. I’ve not dived into the details
of payment (what is allowed, …) and so on yet [1].

Somehow integrating with Kickstarter would have been better I guess to
leverage their community.

 Anyway I added the Evolution project on that site and sponsored an
 issue.

The is GNOME Bugzilla issue #555130 [2], linked from [3].

 Probably will pick a few others too.

 Maybe someone else wants to pick a few or add to mine?   I can't hurt,
 if nobody does anything it doesn't cost anything.


Thanks,

Paul


[1] http://blog.freedomsponsors.org/about/
[2] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555130
[3] http://www.freedomsponsors.org/core/issue/185/redesign-task-editor


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Re: [Evolution] evolution discloses private information in an email header.

[Paul Menzel]

Am Sonntag, den 20.01.2013, 01:37 + schrieb Pete Biggs:

[…]

   here but rather a very bad implementation decision in my opinion.
 
 It's the normal way of generating Message-IDs - I've seen lots of
 other MUAs use it.
 
  What I am trying to request here is that Message-ID should not use _plain 
  text_ internal_hostname.internal_domainname.
  The simplest solution in my opinion is to use any kind of one way 
  encryption for the existing right of @ part.
  This would preserve all existing Message-ID logic and completely hide 
  internal_hostname.internal_domainname.
  Adding sender email domain (after encrypted part) aka Thunderbird is 
  optional...
  
  Is my explanation clear?

 I understand what you are saying, I just don't think it's an issue.
 What is wrong with using the name of the computer in the Message-ID? The
 host is behind a NAT, so it's not as if you are inviting people to try
 and attack it.  So yes, it exposes some information, but that
 information is, as far as I can see, fairly useless.  Unless, of course,
 you have called your computer something really embarrassing ...

By the way, if I recall correctly, the same as Eugene’s doubts were the
reason, that some of Microsoft’s mail programs (I think Exchange,
Outlook, …) do not include the header field `Message-ID` at all. Which
is quite sad if you are using threading in your email program.

 Nevertheless, if you think it's an issue, then file a bug report - it's
 the only way something is going to change.  It's then up to the
 developers to decide if it's something they want to change.

Eugene, please reply with the ticket’s Bugzilla URL if you create it.

Should you have programming experience you can even send a patch.

1. Check out the Git tree.
2. Find out were the message ID is generated and adapt the logic to a
choice.
3. Add an option for the user to enable for example hashing of the
hostname.


Thanks,

Paul


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[Evolution] Searching in trash folder or junk folder takes long time

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


searching (for name and subject) in my trash or junk folder takes a long
time despite that there are only around 30 messages in there.

Is the cause, that trash and junk folders are virtual folders?


Thanks,

Paul


PS: This is Evolution 3.4.4 from Debian Sid/unstable.


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Re: [Evolution] How to turn off Sender has been........?

[Paul Menzel]

Am Donnerstag, den 17.01.2013, 14:14 + schrieb grasshopper:
 On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 08:40 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
  On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 13:20 +, grasshopper wrote:
   I would like to deactivate the message: Sender has been notified that
   you have read this message.  Such a message is fine for private mail,
   but it's irritating when I click on a message on one of the lists and I
   just want to read the mail.
   I have checked online, but have not found any information.
  
  Mail Accounts - {account} - Defaults - Send Message Receipts

 Thanks Adam. I usually never enable it, so I double checked and
 Message Receipts: Send message receipts: Never.  
 Maybe it's just a glitch, that although the message pops up it doesn't
 actually send, I hope so anyway.

Please report a bug to the GNOME Bugzilla [1].


Thanks,

Paul


[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Evolution


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[Evolution] Hang of IMAP connections

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


with all Evolution versions up to at least 3.4.4 I experienced, that
sometimes connections just hang and in the status bar the tab stays
forever and nothing happens.

Looking at the server with Courier IMAP 4.8.0

Jan 17 20:01:31 myhostname imapd: Connection, ip=[:::78.11.11.111]
Jan 17 20:01:35 myhostname imapd: LOGIN, user=joe, 
ip=[:::78.11.11.111], port=[55947], protocol=IMAP
Jan 17 20:33:25 myhostname imapd: TIMEOUT, user=joe, 
ip=[:::78.11.11.111], headers=0, body=0, rcvd=704, sent=500500, time=1911, 
starttls=1

Any idea, how that connection could time out and why Evolution does not
detect that?


Thanks,

Paul


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[Evolution] Build Evolution using Clang 3.2: Best way to fix warnings?

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution,


does anybody use Clang to build Evolution?

Building Evolution 3.4.4 with Clang 3.1, failed with a segmentation
fault in Clang, but using Clang 3.2 seems to work and it generates
several warnings.

I would like to avoid opening a ticket for each warning in the Bugzilla
bug tracker and attach a patch to it as this takes to much time, I do
not want to spend as I also have to check applicability to the master
branch. Any other idea, how this “project” could be addressed?


Thanks,

Paul


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[Evolution] bus error causing crashes

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


using Debian Sid/unstable with Evolution 3.4.4 (but happened since
3.4.x), wanting to reply to some message, Evolution often crashes due to
a »bus error«. Does somebody experience something similar?

I could not find a bug report about that yet, so I wonder if I should
create one. Or is this fixed in newer versions or unrelated to
Evolution?


Thanks,

Paul


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[Evolution] Mail sending problems: Bad authentication response from server.

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


using Debian Sid/unstable with Evolution 3.4.4 for some reason, sending
mails does not work with one account anymore.

It started, when for whatever cause I was asked for all passwords again
– I guess because GNOME Keyring was not available for some reason – and
I might have entered the wrong password then. Anyway now wanting to send
a message over this account (SMTP) I get the following error

Fehler bei »Nachricht wird verschickt«.

which means Error while »Sending message«.

Bad authentication response from server.

I think while sending the message, the following was also shown on the
terminal.

(evolution:4598): e-data-server-ui-WARNING **: Keyring key for string 
»0131FBB85DD5BC10« is unusable: no user or host name

Line [1] and printing the variable `string`. I *cannot* find the
password entry for the account in my keyring, when looking at it with
Seahorse.

Using `CAMEL_DEBUG=all evolution` to get more information, I see the
following.

sending : EHLO [10.10.10.10]
sending : STARTTLS
sending : EHLO [10.10.10.10]
sending : AUTH CRAM-MD5
sending : somemd5hashstring==
sending : QUIT
received: 221 mail.example.net closing connection

On the server with Exim 4.72-6+squeeze3 I see

cram_md5_server authenticator failed for myhost.example.org ([10.10.10.10]) 
[78.xxx.xxx.xxx]: 535 Incorrect authentication data (set_id=joey)

Judging from this, I would assume that Evolution would asked me for the
correct password. But no dialog is shown.

Am I missing something or should I submit a ticket for this issue?


Thanks,

Paul


[1] 
http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/tree/libedataserverui/e-passwords.c?h=gnome-3-4#n126


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.6.0 hangs with a large number of unknown jobs

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Per,


first of all, please do not send any HTML messages and just plain text.


Am Donnerstag, den 08.11.2012, 19:21 -0800 schrieb Per:
 On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:30 AM, Per M Knutsen 
 pknut...@physics.ucsd.eduwrote:
 
  On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Dan Vrátil dvra...@redhat.com wrote:
 
  On Saturday 03 of November 2012 22:57:33 Per wrote:
   After upgrading to 3.6.0 I'm experiencing frequent hang-ups. When this
   happens, the status bar is full of active Unknown jobs. I have no idea
   what these jobs are. I can't cancel them either, and I can't close
   Evolution (which runs at near 100% cpu utilization).
  
   My questions is: How can I debug what these jobs are doing?

[…]

  can you confirm that this happens with HTML emails which have images? If
  so, then you are probably affected by bug #686810 [0].
 
  No, it does not appear to be associated with HTML emails.
 
  Otherwise, make sure you have -debug packages for Evolution, Gtk+ and glib
  installed and attach GDB to Evolution:
 
  gdb /usr/bin/evolution `pidof evolution`
 
  and get a full backtrace:
 
   thread apply all bt
 
  Ok. I'm not sure if I'm doing this right. I ran the command as above
  (including the `pidof evolution` string; should there be an actual PID in
  there?). Once gdb is started I type run to start Evo. Evo after 30 min or
  so hangs with a number of jobs (including some Unknown ones; see attached
  screenshot). At the same time Evo was downloading emails (8 pop accounts).
  Evo then froze and was unresponsive to me pressing any of the cancel
  buttons. CPU utilization was 100%. Only way to shut down Evo was to kill it
  manually.
 
  After Evo was killed I typed in your last command, and got in return a
  blank line.
 
  Am I doing something wrong debugging Evo, or is this the expected behavior
  when the app is killed? Sorry if if this question is lame, but I have no
  idea what to expect with the process you outlined.
 
 Sorry for posting this again.
 
 The problem outlined above is recurring (mutliple times per day). It seems
 to start with a task called Saving user interface, at which point Evo
 freezes. At least twice this happened in conjunction with a 'Retrieving
 Message x' message shown in the message pane (which never disppears).
 CPU goes to ~50%. Gradually, a whole bunch of 'Unknown' tasks are spawned;
 seems CPU usage then goes up eventually hitting 100%.

Just a guess, that this might be related to Tracker’s Evolution plugin.

 I'd like to file a bug report, but due to my apparent inability to use the
 gdb tool properly am unable to do so.

What is the problem? Make sure to install `evolution-dbg` [2].

 Can someone point out for me further directions for debugging this issue?

I think, you should report a bug at Ubuntu’s bugtracker Launchpad.
Hopefully the Ubuntu maintainers can point you to some repository
providing newer versions. If not you have to build the package
(evolution and evolution-data-server) yourself which is not that
difficult.


Thanks,

Paul


  [0] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686810
[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Debug_Symbol_Packages
[2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/


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[Evolution] Sender notification messages for old messages

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


with Evolution 3.4.x from Debian Sid/unstable accessing old (from three
years ago) already marked as read messages I get a notification that the
sender has been notified that I read the message. Probably that is a bug
and I was not able to find the bug number or the commit fixing this.


Thanks,

Paul


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[Evolution] OT: Unwanted deletion of old messages with AOL

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


I have two AOL account I have set up in 2008 and I had set up with
Evolution using IMAP. The last message I received is from February 2009.
Since then I did not care about this account anymore and did not update
it when AOL changed the server URL again from imap.de.aol.com to
imap.aol.com.

Now logging in using their Web interface after over two years no
messages are shown anymore. Locally with the account where I have
updated the server URL no messages are either. With the account which
the old address (and therefore no connection) there are messages shown,
but in AOL’s Web interface nothing is shown.

So my conclusion is that AOL deleted the old messages without asking me.
Also I did not find such a configuration setting in AOL’s Web interface
settings.

Also the updated account now displays two inboxes.

Does somebody of you know what could have happened?


Thanks,

Paul


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[Evolution] How to fix corrupted address book?

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


my address book seems to be corrupt. When entering a name in the To
field to get it autocompleted, the following is printed to the command
line.

(evolution:23413): e-data-server-ui-CRITICAL **: 
e_contact_store_get_contact: assertion `ITER_IS_VALID (contact_store, iter)' 
failed

(evolution:23413): libebook-CRITICAL **: e_contact_get: assertion 
`contact  E_IS_CONTACT (contact)' failed

(evolution:23413): libebook-CRITICAL **: e_contact_get: assertion 
`contact  E_IS_CONTACT (contact)' failed

(evolution:23413): libebook-CRITICAL **: e_contact_get: assertion 
`contact  E_IS_CONTACT (contact)' failed

(evolution:23413): e-data-server-ui-CRITICAL **: 
e_contact_store_get_contact: assertion `ITER_IS_VALID (contact_store, iter)' 
failed

Is there a way to fix the corrupted address book? I assume it uses some
common standard and I should be able to find out the bad entry and
manually fix it.


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] How to fix corrupted address book?

[Paul Menzel]

Am Montag, den 05.11.2012, 12:44 +0100 schrieb Milan Crha:
 On Mon, 2012-11-05 at 10:45 +0100, Paul Menzel wrote:
  my address book seems to be corrupt. When entering a name in the To
  field to get it autocompleted, the following is printed to the command
  line.
  
  (evolution:23413): e-data-server-ui-CRITICAL **: 
  e_contact_store_get_contact: assertion `ITER_IS_VALID (contact_store, 
  iter)' failed
 ...

 is there the autocompleted contact shown in the To field when you select
 it?

When I insert the first name of the contact, then it is not shown in the
list. When I insert the last name, then it is.

 If it is, then I guess it's a bug in the code, rather than broken
 book. You can also test it when you'll open a Contacts view and check
 the content of the respective book.

The contact entry is there in the Contacts view and I can open it.


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] Image loading threads don't cancel – fixed in 3.6

[Paul Menzel]

Am Sonntag, den 21.10.2012, 08:18 -0500 schrieb Patrick Dickey:
 On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 21:28 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: 
  On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 15:36 -0700, PatrickDickey52761 wrote:
   I can confirm this still happens in Evolution 3.2.3 on Ubuntu 12.04. Also,
   the images take forever to download (even on a 1mb/s download link). Is
   there an actual bug report filed on this, and what's the status of 
   finding a
   solution to the issue?
  
  Solved in Evolution 3.6.
  
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Patrick, please remove such signatures manually in the future.

 Thank you for the information. Off chance, is it something that can be
 backported to earlier versions? I ask because I (like quite a few
 others, I would imagine) are using the version that comes with our
 distribution (Ubuntu 12.04 in my case).

I did `git log origin/master` in the clone of the Evolution Git
repository and searched for »image«. This way I found for example Dan
Vrátil’s commit 3dfda260 [2] fixing bug 431497 [1].

 I'm going to see what it will take to upgrade to 3.6 on my computer
 right now.


Thanks,

Paul


[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=431497
[2] 
http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution/commit/?id=3dfda2606ca61cdc79819f01bdcdb388038c97fd


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Re: [Evolution] No more access to Mapi address book in Evolution 3.4.4

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Patrice,


Am Mittwoch, den 10.10.2012, 14:20 +0200 schrieb Patrice B:
 Hello,
 
  I'v been using evolution 3.0.3 with mappi plug-in for quite a long
 time now and I have had no problem with access to exchange address
 book until I switched to 3.4.4 (Fedora 17) release.
 
 I have no more mail address completion, and I'm not able to do any
 mail address research in contact window.
 
 Is there something more to configure ? What info should I provide ?

please start Evolution with

$ MAPI_DEBUG=1 evolution

as documented on the page »A Quick Guide to Evolution Bug Hunting« [1].

The developers prefer that you report bugs to the bug tracker though.
Please make sure to reply to this message with the bug number your
ticket got assigned from Bugzilla.


Thanks,

Paul


[1] http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/bugs.shtml


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Re: [Evolution] Evo vanishes when switching workspaces

[Paul Menzel]

Am Samstag, den 22.09.2012, 09:27 -0400 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams:
 On Fri, 2012-09-21 at 18:51 +0100, Dianne Reuby wrote: 
  On Fri, 2012-09-21 at 10:53 -0300, Lailah wrote:
   El dom, 16-09-2012 a las 14:12 +0100, Dianne Reuby escribió: 
For two days I've found that if I try to switch back to Evo by clicking
the icon in launcher or using ctrl + alt + arrow, the global menu
changes to the Evo menu items, but the close/minimise buttons are
missing. I can create a new email, but if I want to see the main Evo
window I have to exit and restart. It doesn't switch to the Evo
workspace - the global menu appears on the workspace I'm using,
replacing whatever menu was there (eg my browser).
   Did you solve this?
  Not completely - it seems to come and go, although I have now noticed it
  occasionally on other programs. I think this is probably one of the many
  Ubuntu glitches, rather than a problem with Evo.
 
 If you just run evolution in gnome-terminal and then let that terminal
 sit there until evolution disappears you might get a hint.  My money is
 on Segmentation Fault.

A crash is a good guess. Please make sure to capture a core dump by
running `ulimit -c unlimited` beforehand. Then move the file `core`
somewhere else and search for how to get a backtrace/stacktrace with
GDB.


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] Evo vanishes when switching workspaces

[Paul Menzel]

Am Samstag, den 22.09.2012, 23:12 +0200 schrieb Paul Menzel:
 Am Samstag, den 22.09.2012, 09:27 -0400 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams:
  On Fri, 2012-09-21 at 18:51 +0100, Dianne Reuby wrote: 
   On Fri, 2012-09-21 at 10:53 -0300, Lailah wrote:
El dom, 16-09-2012 a las 14:12 +0100, Dianne Reuby escribió: 
 For two days I've found that if I try to switch back to Evo by 
 clicking
 the icon in launcher or using ctrl + alt + arrow, the global menu
 changes to the Evo menu items, but the close/minimise buttons are
 missing. I can create a new email, but if I want to see the main Evo
 window I have to exit and restart. It doesn't switch to the Evo
 workspace - the global menu appears on the workspace I'm using,
 replacing whatever menu was there (eg my browser).
Did you solve this?
   Not completely - it seems to come and go, although I have now noticed it
   occasionally on other programs. I think this is probably one of the many
   Ubuntu glitches, rather than a problem with Evo.
  
  If you just run evolution in gnome-terminal and then let that terminal
  sit there until evolution disappears you might get a hint.  My money is
  on Segmentation Fault.
 
 A crash is a good guess. Please make sure to capture a core dump by
 running `ulimit -c unlimited` beforehand. Then move the file `core`
 somewhere else and search for how to get a backtrace/stacktrace with
 GDB.

… by following for example the article ReportingBugs [1].


Thanks,

Paul


[1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs


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[Evolution] addressbook: Berkely DB `addressbook.db` and Sqlite3 DB `contacts.db`

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


looking at the addressbooks there are two databases.

$ file ~/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system/contacts.db 
/home/joe/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system/contacts.db: SQLite 
3.x database
$ file ~/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system/addressbook.db
/home/joe/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system/addressbook.db: 
Berkeley DB (Hash, version 8, native byte-order)

Both seem to have been accessed recently. So I wonder why two databases
are needed.

Searching the WWW for »evolution contacts.db« did not give any good
hits. Also searching through the source code did not bring up an
overview either.


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] What's New in Evolution 3.6

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Matthew,


Am Mittwoch, den 19.09.2012, 10:13 -0400 schrieb Matthew Barnes:
 I've never been very good about posting release announcements, but
 Evolution 3.6.0 is set to be released next week and it's a pretty big
 release for us.  I just wanted to highlight a couple major changes so
 you know what to expect.

thank you very much for the announcement. Such things are much
appreciated. I know they take quite some time to write, but it is time
well spent.


 Hello, WebKit!
 --
 
 We're in the process of abandoning our ancient HTML renderer (GtkHtml)
 for WebKit/GTK+.  We're spreading this across two releases just because
 it's such a large workload.  Dan Vrátil did most of the WebKit porting
 and he's an absolute superhero for doing so.
 
 Evolution 3.6 will render received mail using WebKit/GTK+.  That means
 HTML mails containing CSS will finally be displayed correctly, since our
 old HTML renderer had no CSS support.
 
 The email composer in Evolution 3.6 will still use GtkHtml, but Dan
 already has a branch ready to merge which ports the composer to WebKit,
 so we'll spend the entire 3.7 development cycle testing that and shaking
 out the bugs in time for Evolution 3.8 next spring.

A more official statement than Andre’s reply to my message [1] about the
security implications would be nice.

 Goodbye GConf!
 --

[…]

 Evolution 3.6 will move your account data to plain text files which live
 in $HOME/.config/evolution/sources.  Evolution-Data-Server 3.6 will also
 introduce a new D-Bus service which will serve these files to Evolution,
 GNOME Contacts, GNOME Shell and any other E-D-S client, and also handle
 various other miscellaneous chores like talking to GNOME Online Accounts
 and cleaning up old data after you delete an account.

It would be great if that migration stuff is a separate so people can
test that beforehand for example.

Could you please point to some write up in the source or a Wiki
explaining the new format. For example also how passwords are stored.

[…]

 Smaller Development Team
 
 
 And now for some sad news.  Since Evolution 3.4 was released we've had a
 significant reduction in our development team.  SUSE decided to cut all
 funding of Evolution development and reassigned its (formerly Novell)
 Evolution developers elsewhere.
 
 That leaves just myself, Milan Crha and Dan Vrátil (all Red Hatters).
 However Dan is in the process transitioning over to Red Hat's KDE team,
 leaving myself and Milan as the only remaining full time developers for
 the moment.
 
 Red Hat does have an open position in the Brno, Czech Republic office
 for a new full-time Evolution developer [1], if anyone is interested.
 
 Unfortunately this staff reduction caused a few software causalities:
 
 * Evolution-GroupWise is now unmaintained and will not see a 3.6
   release.  The SUSE team had been maintaining this prior to their
   reassignment, and unfortunately we just don't have adequate resources
   to keep it going.  If anyone would like to take over maintainership,
   I'd be happy to assist with getting the module back up to speed.
 
 * Evolution-Exchange is also cut for the same reasons.  That's the old
   Ximian Connector, which talks to Exchange 2003 via Outlook Web Access
   but doesn't work with Exchange 2007 or later.
 
   For Exchange integration, most of our development focus is now on the
   Exchange Web Services module (Evolution-EWS), but Evolution-MAPI is
   still being maintained since it works with Exchange 2003 as well as
   2007 and 2010.
 
   With only two full-time developers left, we just felt that maintaining
   three different Microsoft Exchange backends was getting ridiculous and
   was not the best use of our time.

Are the reasons of SUSE known? Do there customers not use Evolution or
if they do, they do not use Microsoft Exchange?

Additionally are there any software company providing Evolution support?

 No worries though, we will soldier on.

I wish you the best.


Thanks,

Paul


 [1] 
 http://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2012/09/13/interested-in-joining-the-red-hat-desktop-team-here-in-brno/
[2] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2012-August/msg00115.html


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[Evolution] Purpose of `~/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system/log.0000000001`?

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


could you please point me to some resource describing or tell me the
purpose of `~/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system/log.01`
is?

It is 10 MB big.


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] I'm new to this list

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Anita


welcome to the Evolution list.


Am Mittwoch, den 19.09.2012, 12:52 -0600 schrieb Nail That Down:

[…]

Since you are new, please read the netiquette [1].

1. Please use a meaningful subject.
2. No HTML. Please send just plain text message.
3. Do not reply to digest mails (or any mails your message does not
refer to)! That is rude behavior and breaks threading. (Unfortunately
this behavior was encouraged by stupid Web client where you are not able
to create a new message to an email address by clicking on that
address.)
4. If participating in discussion disable digest mode.

Please post your message again with the correct subject line and the
following comment clarified.

 I believe the question I have is: is there a way to print out or copy
 the message filters I use?

From where do you want to copy it?

 In case I haven't asked the right question, feel free to correct me.

[…]


Thanks,

Paul


 Sent from my Windows Phone

Ugh. Let us now if it is able to sync with Evolution.

You should remove the following stuff from the digest mail.

 
 From: evolution-list-requ...@gnome.org
 Sent: 19/09/2012 06:00
 To: evolution-list@gnome.org
 Subject: evolution-list Digest, Vol 86, Issue 15

[…]


[1] http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_list_netiquette


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[Evolution] Addressbook: How to update a group after changing a contact?

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution users,


one user complained that having an email group containing several
contacts, than the addresses are not updated when for example one
address of a contact is updated.

Example:

group »friends« contains »Alice« and »Bob«. Updating the email address
of »Bob«, the group friends still contains the old email address.

1. Is there a way to update the addresses in a group?
2. Why should not that be done automatically?


Thanks,

Paul


PS: This is at least present until Evolution 3.4.3 from Debian
Sid/unstable.


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[Evolution] Evolution 3.4.3: »Unknown background operation«

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


using Debian Sid/unstable with Evolution 3.4.3-1 the status bar show
»Unknown background operation«. Searching through the code I found the
following snippet in `mail/e-mail-backend.c`.

static void
mail_backend_job_started_cb (CamelSession *session,
 GCancellable *cancellable,
 EShellBackend *shell_backend)
{
EMailBackendPrivate *priv;
EActivity *activity;

priv = E_MAIL_BACKEND_GET_PRIVATE (shell_backend);

/* Make sure this operation shows up in the user interface.
 * This message should get overridden, if not it's a bug in
 * whatever CamelService submitted this. */
camel_operation_push_message (
cancellable, _(Unknown background operation));

activity = e_activity_new ();
e_activity_set_cancellable (activity, cancellable);
e_shell_backend_add_activity (shell_backend, activity);

/* The hash table takes ownership of the activity. */
g_hash_table_insert (priv-jobs, cancellable, activity);
}

How can I find out the CamelService not overriding this message?


Thanks,

Paul


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[Evolution] Volunteers needed for maintenance/stable gnome-3-4 branch

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


Debian’s next stable release codenamed Wheezy is going to ship GNOME 3.4
with Evolution 3.4.3 (currently) and therefore that will be used for
more than two years by its users.

Matthew and Milan have expressed several times [1][2] that after
Evolution 3.4.4 no further 3.4.x release is planed. Unfortunately
already several bugs have been found in 3.4.4 warranting a 3.4.5
release.

If I remember correctly, the developers would not oppose a maintenance
branch, if others would volunteer to maintain it. (Unfortunately I
cannot find the URL in the GNOME Bugzilla or evolution-list.

Seeing Alexandre Rostovtsev committed a patch to branch gnome-3-4, I was
wondering if other distribution folks – especially maintainers – could
speak up regarding their release plans and maybe step up to maintain
such a stable branch.

I suggest to follow only the rule, that fixes have to be submitted first
to master and are only then allowed to be backported to gnome-3-4 as is
done for the stable Linux kernel releases.

Of course I would also volunteer to upstream the patches tested and
applied to the Debian Evolution packages.

I hope that will help important and widely used packages to stabilize
for their users and also reduce the work for maintainers to not double
their work.

If that is approved what would the volunteers required to do to get push
access to the gnome-3-4 branch?


Thanks,

Paul


[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=683732
[2] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682398#c13


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[Evolution] Improve commit messages in Git repository

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


I am bringing up the discussion in bug 682398 [1] on this list.


(In reply to comment #13 from Milan)

[…]

 Regarding the explanation in the commit, I like the bug numbers being
 clickable,

Milan, unfortunately that is not the case. Neither yet in the Web
interface nor will it ever be the case when using `git` on the command
line.

 thus one can see whole story about the change, rather than
 summarizing it to few sentences. I agree that bug reports can be sometimes 
 long
 and hard to read, but it's still the place where the change can be discussed.

Please look at it from the perspective of package maintainers. They are
(like you) already overloaded by work and have to keep up with dozens of
packages. You cannot expect them to know all the code bases and
understand all patches and to find out the implications.

Additionally please do not expect people to look at every commit and
then at every discussion in Bugzilla. The commit message is the place to
describe the problem with its implications, how it was introduced and
how it is fixed and what implications the fix has.

It would be awesome, if that policy for commits could be set up. (This
issue was discussed somewhere already, but again I cannot find the
report in GNOME Bugzilla or the message in the list archive. Matthew
acknowledge the problem and promised to improve that if I remember
correctly. :/)


Thanks,

Paul


[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682398#c13


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[Evolution] Add account to message to »Checking for New Messages«

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


is there an option to add the corresponding account to the message
»Checking for New Messages« at the bottom of Evolution’s window?


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] Add account to message to »Checking for New Messages«

[Paul Menzel]

Am Dienstag, den 11.09.2012, 09:43 -0400 schrieb Matthew Barnes:
 On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 15:15 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
  is there an option to add the corresponding account to the message
  »Checking for New Messages« at the bottom of Evolution’s window?
 
 Why would there be an option for that?

Good question. ;-) I thought there is a reason it is not displayed
currently.

 File a bug about it please and I'll get it for 3.7, since we're already
 under a string freeze for 3.6.  New Messages doesn't really need to be
 capitalized either.

True. Looking at `po/de.po` this string seems to be from
`mail/em-account-editor.c` which I cannot find in the source. Should all
these strings be removed from the po files?


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] Add account to message to »Checking for New Messages«

[Paul Menzel]

Am Dienstag, den 11.09.2012, 18:14 -0400 schrieb Matthew Barnes:
 On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 23:23 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
  True. Looking at `po/de.po` this string seems to be from
  `mail/em-account-editor.c` which I cannot find in the source. Should all
  these strings be removed from the po files?
 
 The string changed slightly, but it's still in mail/mail-send-recv.c:

 Checking for new mail -- someone (probably me and I've just forgotten)
 fixed the capitalization already,

So what should be done with the strings from the removed(?) file. Just
remove those from all po files or is there some program taking care of
that? Is it useful to report a bug about that?

 but mentioning the account name would still be good.

Definitely. I will submit a bug report.


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution renumbering quoted lists in reply

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Graham,


this is Evolution 3.4.3-1 from Debian Sid/unstable. See below for a
test.


Am Donnerstag, den 06.09.2012, 08:33 +0100 schrieb Graham Murray:
 Evolution version 3.2.3
 
 When replying at an email which contained the following form
 
 1. Point 1

First response.

 2. Point 2

Second response.

 3. Point 3

Third response.

 With inline responses, the quoted text was changed to
 
  1. Point 1
 Response to point 1
 
  1. Point 2
 Response to point 2
 
  1. Point 3
 Response to point 3.
 
 In other words, every time I pressed Enter after one of the numbered
 lines to add a response, it renumbered all of the subsequent quoted list
 to start from 1. When quoting an email in a reply, should the original
 text not be left unaltered?

So it worked for me with Evolution 3.4.3. So the bug seems to have been
fixed. Did you do your tests in plain text mode?


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] Deleting infected messages

[Paul Menzel]

Am Mittwoch, den 29.08.2012, 10:30 +0200 schrieb Andre Klapper:
 On Tue, 2012-08-28 at 15:29 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
  The problem is that clamav identifies the message by their filesystem
  names, which are things like:
  
  /home/jonrysh/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/cur/1309978791.3344_2548.localhost.localdomain:2,S
  It's not obvious which message (as evolution refers to it) this is.
 
 You can easily find out by opening such a message in a plain text editor
 (which cannot execute scripts or malicious parts of the email) and
 taking a look at the Subject/Sender/Date, e.g. by running the command
 
 gedit 
 ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/cur/1309978791.3344_2548.localhost.localdomain:2,S
 
 Or if you just want the subject and date of the message, run
 
 grep Subject: 
 ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/cur/1309978791.3344_2548.localhost.localdomain:2,S
 grep Date: 
 ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/cur/1309978791.3344_2548.localhost.localdomain:2,S

It is not as easily anymore, if Jonathan has more than let’s say ten
messages. So just using `rm` on the command line and telling Evolution
to update something would save a lot of time I guess.


Thanks,

Paul


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[Evolution] Use standalone migration tools (war: Data migration Evolution 2.24.5 to 3.4.3)

[Paul Menzel]

Am Dienstag, den 07.08.2012, 09:05 -0600 schrieb Zan Lynx:
 On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 16:33 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote:
  On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 13:31 -0600, Brian A Anderson wrote:
   If I follow what you said below,  Does this mean that I have to convert
   2.24.5 data to 2.32 data and then to 3.4 or is it just one conversion?
   Is there a utility that someone has that might do this job?
  
  You don't HAVE to, but I think what Andre meant is the bigger the jump
  the bigger the risk.
  
  Migration routines are written to convert data from the previous major
  release to the upcoming major release at the time of writing.  So if I
  wrote a new routine today it would convert something from the way it's
  represented in 3.4 to the way it will be represented in 3.6, and that's
  about as much testing as it receives prior to release.
  
  The theory goes, as the routines execute chronological order, the data
  undergoes one or possibly multiple conversions but should end up in the
  currently supported representation.  But as time passes, old migration
  routines may bit rot and silently break.
  
  Case in point: I believe the mbox-to-Maildir conversion itself still
  works in 3.4 but the detection for when the conversion needs to run is
  currently broken because it relies on some subtle aspect of the startup
  sequence that has changed since 3.0.
 
 In my experience, one of the better ways to do data conversion is to
 write an independent program to do it. Name it something like
 evolution-convert-3.2-3.4. After enough time, you would have a
 conversion program for each version and they could be run in order. They
 could also run without requiring a full working Gnome/Evolution
 environment so they could be used to convert offline data. On a backup
 server for example.

I second that. Nobody is perfect and therefore somebody will be bitten
by a bad migration and currently has no way to manually redo the
migration.

Hopefully the developers will think about that and hopefully follow that
approach in the future.


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] A breakdown in my evolution under F17

[Paul Menzel]

Am Donnerstag, den 23.08.2012, 10:39 -0500 schrieb Aaron Konstam:
 I have F17 installed on 2 F17 machines. On one I use evolution regularly
 on the other I use evolution hardly at all. But suddenly both evolution
 programs broke down in the same way. On one machine when I did a send
 and receive I was presented with the downloading of 255 messages.
 Normally I have no more that 100 on that machine. After downloading i
 had 206 messages in my Inbox. At the top were the real non-junk e-mails
 followed by 100 or so junk e-mails which repeated themselves and
 appeared in descending date order.

Looks like you just got a lot of spam?

 So I went to the other machine with the evolution that I rarely use and
 whose configuration I have not changed recently. Its behavior was the
 same as on the first machine.
 
 Both machine use evolution 3.4.5

There is no 3.4.5 as far as I know.

 Both machines use a POP server so I wondered if the POP server was
 having problems. But went I went to my wife's machine using Outlook
 there were no problems.

As long as she does have a different account that does not mean
anything.

 Has any one have any idea what may be going on?
 How could I re-install the evolution from scratch?.

I guess that will not change anything. Before you go retrieve your
messages next time, you could check beforehand by logging into your
providers Web interface.


Thanks and good luck,

Paul


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[Evolution] Security implications of WebKit migration

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


finding two bug reports in the Debian BTS about not-existing security
support for WebKit releases, I am wondering if the WebKit migration of
Evolution will also suffer from that. It comes to my mind, that one of
Microsoft Outlook’s biggest security issues is (was(?)) due to bugs in
the HTML rendering engine.

Also I do not know how good the security support for GtkHTML is.


Thanks,

Paul


[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=682481
[2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=649625


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[Evolution] User experience about orange search folder icons

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


I just wanted to inform you, that my mother was irritated by the orange
search folder icons. She thought it means some kind of error, which it
is not as far as I can see.

Though I do not know if that changed between 3.2.2 and 3.4.3, but it was
just noted now anyway.


Thanks,

Paul


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[Evolution] Maintenance of Evolution 3.4.x

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


the next stable release of Debian codenamed Wheezy will ship Evolution
3.4.x. That means, for the next two or three years it will be used by a
large user base and needs to be supported by fixes, which the Debian
security team will normally do.

Evolution 3.4.4 was released on August 13th. Is a 3.4.5 release planned?

Do you know of other distributions who ship 3.4.x and are interested in
a maintained 3.4.x branch?


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] GTK transparency issue partially back after upgrade from 3.2 to 3.4

[Paul Menzel]

Am Dienstag, den 21.08.2012, 08:05 -0400 schrieb Matthew Barnes:
 On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 11:45 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
  I also wonder why it worked with Evolution 3.2 and does not with 3.4.
  
  So it looks like a new bug to me.
 
 GTK+ 3.4 is rife with regressions due mostly to the move to X Input
 Extension 2.x (XI2) and CSS handling changes.  If you build Evolution
 3.4 against GTK+ 3.2, a lot of these issues go away.  But most distros
 are shipping GTK+ 3.4 now.

That still does not explain, why Evolution 3.2.2 did not have these
problems.

Also, what solution do you suggest?


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] Again no smooth upgrade from Evolution 3.2 to 3.4

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Andre,


Am Dienstag, den 21.08.2012, 10:58 +0200 schrieb Andre Klapper:

 On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 09:50 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:

[…]

  Here are my issues. I have *not* looked yet, if there are any open
  tickets at GNOME’s Bugzilla already.
 
 Did you upgrade your distro? 
 Or did you use a fresh install and Backup/Restore in Evolution?

I upgraded Evolution using the Aptitude package manager.

  1. The settings for sorting of messages were not kept. I had it on
  »Date« before and after starting Evolution 3.4 nothing was selected,
  which was quite confusing since messages are not displayed where they
  are supposed too.
  
  2. In Evolution 3.2 if there was a warning, a orange area was put into
  the window, with a button to discard, which I could select with a
  keyboard shortcut (in German Alt + v) and hit space bar to also discard
  it.
  
  In Evolution 3.4 the button is gone and I have to use the mouse to click
  on the cross.
 
 Confirming.
 
  3. My spelling settings were also not migrated. I had it set to check
  for German and English. In Evolution 3.4 it is only German again.
 
 /data/evolution.convert in git lists composer-spell-languages.
 Might be a bug in the migration from gconf to GSettings. 
 Would be interesting to know if conversion of other arrays worked.

How can I check that?


Thanks,

Paul


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[Evolution] Default sorting of message lists (was: Again no smooth upgrade from Evolution 3.2 to 3.4)

[Paul Menzel]

Am Dienstag, den 21.08.2012, 11:21 +0100 schrieb David Woodhouse:
 On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 09:50 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
  
  1. The settings for sorting of messages were not kept. I had it on
  »Date« before and after starting Evolution 3.4 nothing was selected,
  which was quite confusing since messages are not displayed where they
  are supposed too.
 
 The fact that you have to put it on 'Date' is a bug in the first place.
 Evolution should show the messages in the order that they appear in the
 mailbox (which is by the *received* time, not the date in the Date:
 header). You don't want messages with dates in the future to sit at the
 bottom for ages, and you don't want messages which arrive with a date in
 the *past* (perhaps it got delayed in transit) to appear further back in
 the mailbox than other messages which you've already dealt with.

I am using »Sort after threads« which seems to influence the default
behavior.


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] GTK transparency issue partially back after upgrade from 3.2 to 3.4

[Paul Menzel]

Am Mittwoch, den 22.08.2012, 11:21 +0200 schrieb Milan Crha:
 On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 09:33 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
   GTK+ 3.4 is rife with regressions due mostly to the move to X Input
   Extension 2.x (XI2) and CSS handling changes.  If you build Evolution
   3.4 against GTK+ 3.2, a lot of these issues go away.  But most distros
   are shipping GTK+ 3.4 now.
  
  That still does not explain, why Evolution 3.2.2 did not have these
  problems.

 it does explain it. The problem is not in evolution, but in gtk3
 version. Older evolution used older gtk3, newer uses newer. And newer
 gtk3 is broken in certain ways.

No. Just Evolution was upgraded. libgtk3 stayed 3.4.2-3, which contains
the patch.

I submitted a new report for this issue to the GNOME Bugzilla [1]. 

 The best is if the gtk3 maintainers will be able to handle found
 regressions, the worse is to downgrade gtk3, but it's usually not
 doable, as it's a core system component and other projects can depend on
 newer gtk3.

True. In GNOME Terminal it helped to deselect the check box »Use system
theme« in the profile to not have a black background.


Thanks,

Paul


[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682435


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[Evolution] Again no smooth upgrade from Evolution 3.2 to 3.4

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


unfortunately after upgrading from Evolution 3.2 to 3.4 there were again
changes and regressions. Is there no way to do some quality assurance?
It is disappointing that there are issues after *every* upgrade. It is
really a bad user experience and quite nerve taking.

Here are my issues. I have *not* looked yet, if there are any open
tickets at GNOME’s Bugzilla already.

1. The settings for sorting of messages were not kept. I had it on
»Date« before and after starting Evolution 3.4 nothing was selected,
which was quite confusing since messages are not displayed where they
are supposed too.

2. In Evolution 3.2 if there was a warning, a orange area was put into
the window, with a button to discard, which I could select with a
keyboard shortcut (in German Alt + v) and hit space bar to also discard
it.

In Evolution 3.4 the button is gone and I have to use the mouse to click
on the cross.

3. My spelling settings were also not migrated. I had it set to check
for German and English. In Evolution 3.4 it is only German again.

4. The selection issue I sent a separate message for to the list.

I am sorry if these are Debian packaging issues, but I do think these
are upstream issues.


Thanks,

Paul


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[Evolution] GTK transparency issue partially back after upgrade from 3.2 to 3.4

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


using Debian Sid/unstable, today I finally upgraded from Evolution
3.2.2-1 to 3.4.3-1 after having delayed that for several weeks.

The GtkStyle transparency issue when using a non-GNOME window manager
[1]

[Bug 671437] GtkStyle background color regression

has been fixed in GTK 3 already [2]. But today it came back in the way,
that selecting text, the selection which is normally blue, is all black.
So selected text is not readable anymore.

Is there an open report for that already?


Thanks,

Paul


[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671437
[2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=669694


These are the packages I upgraded before the issue came back.

[AKTUALISIERUNG] dasher:i386 4.11-1.1 - 4.11-1.2
[AKTUALISIERUNG] dasher-data:i386 4.11-1.1 - 4.11-1.2
[AKTUALISIERUNG] evolution:i386 3.2.2-1+b1 - 3.4.3-1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] evolution-common:i386 3.2.2-1 - 3.4.3-1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] evolution-data-server:i386 3.2.2-3 - 3.4.3-1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] evolution-data-server-common:i386 3.2.2-3 - 3.4.3-1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] evolution-data-server-dbg:i386 3.2.2-3 - 3.4.3-1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] evolution-dbg:i386 3.2.2-1+b1 - 3.4.3-1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] evolution-exchange:i386 3.2.1-2 - 3.4.3-2
[AKTUALISIERUNG] evolution-plugins:i386 3.2.2-1+b1 - 3.4.3-1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] evolution-plugins-experimental:i386 3.2.2-1+b1 - 3.4.3-1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] gir1.2-panelapplet-4.0:i386 3.2.1-2+b1 - 3.4.2.1-2+b1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] gnome:i386 1:3.0+9 - 1:3.4+1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] gnome-core:i386 1:3.0+9 - 1:3.4+1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] gnome-desktop-environment:i386 1:3.0+9 - 1:3.4+1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] gnome-panel:i386 3.2.1-2+b1 - 3.4.2.1-2+b1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] gnome-panel-data:i386 3.2.1-2 - 3.4.2.1-2
[AKTUALISIERUNG] gnome-panel-dbg:i386 3.2.1-2+b1 - 3.4.2.1-2+b1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] gnome-shell:i386 3.4.1-6 - 3.4.2-1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] gnome-shell-common:i386 3.4.1-6 - 3.4.2-1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] libedataserverui-3.0-1:i386 3.2.2-3 - 3.4.3-1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] libevolution:i386 3.2.2-1+b1 - 3.4.3-1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] libgtkhtml-4.0-0:i386 4.2.2-1 - 4.4.3-1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] libgtkhtml-4.0-common:i386 4.2.2-1 - 4.4.3-1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] libgtkhtml-4.0-dbg:i386 4.2.2-1 - 4.4.3-1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] libgtkhtml-editor-4.0-0:i386 4.2.2-1 - 4.4.3-1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] libpanel-applet-4-0:i386 3.2.1-2+b1 - 3.4.2.1-2+b1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] libtracker-extract-0.14-0:i386 0.14.1-1+b1 - 0.14.1-2
[AKTUALISIERUNG] libtracker-miner-0.14-0:i386 0.14.1-1+b1 - 0.14.1-2
[AKTUALISIERUNG] libtracker-sparql-0.14-0:i386 0.14.1-1+b1 - 0.14.1-2
[AKTUALISIERUNG] nautilus-sendto:i386 3.0.3-2 - 3.0.3-2+b1
[AKTUALISIERUNG] tracker:i386 0.14.1-1+b1 - 0.14.1-2
[AKTUALISIERUNG] tracker-extract:i386 0.14.1-1+b1 - 0.14.1-2
[AKTUALISIERUNG] tracker-gui:i386 0.14.1-1+b1 - 0.14.1-2
[AKTUALISIERUNG] tracker-miner-evolution:i386 0.14.1-1+b1 - 0.14.1-2
[AKTUALISIERUNG] tracker-miner-fs:i386 0.14.1-1+b1 - 0.14.1-2
[AKTUALISIERUNG] tracker-utils:i386 0.14.1-1+b1 - 0.14.1-2


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Re: [Evolution] GTK transparency issue partially back after upgrade from 3.2 to 3.4

[Paul Menzel]

Am Dienstag, den 21.08.2012, 10:30 +0200 schrieb Andre Klapper:
 On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 09:41 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
  using Debian Sid/unstable, today I finally upgraded from Evolution
  3.2.2-1 to 3.4.3-1 after having delayed that for several weeks.
  
  The GtkStyle transparency issue when using a non-GNOME window manager
  [1] has been fixed in GTK 3 already [2]. But today it came back in the
  way, that selecting text, the selection which is normally blue, is all
  black. So selected text is not readable anymore.
  
  Is there an open report for that already?
  [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671437
  [2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=669694
 
 Not that I am aware of any report. 
 Which exact gtk+3 version is this about?

This is

libgtk-3-0 3.4.2-3

from Debian Sid/unstable [1].


Thanks,

Paul


[1] http://patch-tracker.debian.org/package/gtk+3.0/3.4.2-3


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Re: [Evolution] GTK transparency issue partially back after upgrade from 3.2 to 3.4

[Paul Menzel]

Am Dienstag, den 21.08.2012, 11:17 +0200 schrieb Andre Klapper:
 On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 10:51 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
  This is
 
  libgtk-3-0 3.4.2-3
 
  from Debian Sid/unstable [1].

 The bug is fixed in 3.4.4.

I know. I cannot deduce from your short answer, what you mean exactly.
But the patch mentioned in the Bugzilla report I mentioned was
backported to the Debian package as the link I added proves. Here is the
patch in detail [2].

I also wonder why it worked with Evolution 3.2 and does not with 3.4.

So it looks like a new bug to me.


Thanks,

Paul


[2] 
http://patch-tracker.debian.org/patch/series/view/gtk+3.0/3.4.2-3/073_transparent_colors.patch


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[Evolution] URLs in HTML messages not clickable

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


before opening a ticket in the GNOME Bugzilla, could you please
reproduce the following bug with the attached message?

Displaying the HTML message and trying to click on the GNOME URL does
not work for me and just randomly selects some text.

I am using Debian Sid/unstable with Evolution 3.2.2. Would Evolution be
the correct component to assign that to? Which component is responsible
to render HTML messages.


Thanks,

Paul


test2.mbox
Description: application/mbox


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[Evolution] Grey areas suddenly black after upgrading some GNOME components

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


after upgrading of some GNOME components in Debian Sid/unstable with
Evolution 3.2.2-1 areas which were grey beforehand are now black. With
GNOME everything works fine, but it does not with another window manager
Awesome [1].

This includes the area above the mail box folder structure where the
amount of messages is displayed. Then the box with the message header
information like date, subject and sender in the message preview and
when having a message opened in its own window. Most notable it is when
viewing the source of a message (Ctrl + u (with German display)). Then
the whole window is black.

Where does Evolution look up the color for formatting?


Thanks,

Paul


[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=669694


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Re: [Evolution] NNTP: How to send messages to Usenet/Newsgroup?

[Paul Menzel]

Am Sonntag, den 15.04.2012, 01:39 +0200 schrieb Thomas Mittelstaedt:
 Am Donnerstag, den 12.04.2012, 13:00 +0200 schrieb Paul Menzel:

  is there a way to send messages to a Usenet group.
  
  The tab »Sending« in the account preferences only allow me to choose
  SMTP or Sendmail. I guess that does not work with NNTP. I only have the
  following technical details about the Usenet server [1].
  
  eternal-september.org can be accessed via the following server 
  names and ports: 
  
  Client Settings
  
  Server name: news.eternal-september.org
  Port : 119 (NNTP)
  Port : 563 (encrypted connection NNTPS)
  
  Servername: reader80.eternal-september.org
  Port : 80
  
  Servername: reader443.eternal-september.org
  Port : 443 (encrypted connection NNTPS)
  
  With SMTP I tried to send the message, but the following was printed to the 
  terminal.
  
  (evolution:3417): camel-CRITICAL **: camel_stream_filter_new: 
  assertion `CAMEL_IS_STREAM (source)' failed
  
  (evolution:3417): camel-CRITICAL **: camel_stream_filter_add: 
  assertion `CAMEL_IS_STREAM_FILTER (stream)' failed
  
  (evolution:3417): camel-CRITICAL **: camel_stream_write: assertion 
  `CAMEL_IS_STREAM (stream)' failed
  
  (evolution:3417): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: 
  assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
  
  (evolution:3417): camel-WARNING **: 
  CamelNNTPFolder::append_online() reported failure without setting its GError
  
  (evolution:3417): camel-WARNING **: 
  CamelNNTPFolder::append_message_sync() reported failure without setting its 
  GError

  [1] http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=techinfo
 
 Have you registered at that site? This is required according to the
 information there.

Yes, I registered at that site. (Otherwise I would not have been able to
read the news in the first place.)

 I have sparely visited Usenet lately, but I can remember having
 successfully sent messages to newsgroups on the nntp server of my
 provider. So, in the Send options of that nntp account there is smtp and
 I put in the user name and password of that smtp server.

What SMTP server?

 Have you tried other email clients like mozilla thunderbird and opera ?

Using the newsreader Pan [1] reading and posting works without problems.
So I recommend using Pan until the bugs in Evolution are fixed. Pan even
had a new release a week ago and a lot of features were added.


Thanks,

Paul


[1] http://pan.rebelbase.com/
[2] http://git.gnome.org/browse/pan2/plain/ChangeLog


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[Evolution] NNTP: How to send messages to Usenet/Newsgroup?

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


is there a way to send messages to a Usenet group.

The tab »Sending« in the account preferences only allow me to choose
SMTP or Sendmail. I guess that does not work with NNTP. I only have the
following technical details about the Usenet server [1].

eternal-september.org can be accessed via the following server names 
and ports: 

Client Settings

Server name: news.eternal-september.org
Port : 119 (NNTP)
Port : 563 (encrypted connection NNTPS)

Servername: reader80.eternal-september.org
Port : 80

Servername: reader443.eternal-september.org
Port : 443 (encrypted connection NNTPS)

With SMTP I tried to send the message, but the following was printed to the 
terminal.

(evolution:3417): camel-CRITICAL **: camel_stream_filter_new: assertion 
`CAMEL_IS_STREAM (source)' failed

(evolution:3417): camel-CRITICAL **: camel_stream_filter_add: assertion 
`CAMEL_IS_STREAM_FILTER (stream)' failed

(evolution:3417): camel-CRITICAL **: camel_stream_write: assertion 
`CAMEL_IS_STREAM (stream)' failed

(evolution:3417): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion 
`G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(evolution:3417): camel-WARNING **: CamelNNTPFolder::append_online() 
reported failure without setting its GError

(evolution:3417): camel-WARNING **: 
CamelNNTPFolder::append_message_sync() reported failure without setting its 
GError


Thanks,

Paul


[1] http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=techinfo


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[Evolution] Shortcut to quote message with text attachments when replying

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


on mailing lists often patches are send as attachments. Doing a review I
reply to the message and add comments to the code. But to quote the
message *with* the text attachment I need to display the attachment in
the message view, then select everything and finally hit reply (Ctrl + l
or Ctrl + r).

Is there an easier way to achieve this. (Asking people to only send
patches inlined is out of the question.)


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] Where does evolution store its files?

[Paul Menzel]

Am Montag, den 23.01.2012, 14:15 -0600 schrieb Michael Hennebry:
 My current linux distribution is EOL.
 I'm planning to use a different home directory for the next install.
 What files do I need to copy from old to new to continue as before?
 I've been looking, but not finding.

What version of Evolution do you use? Your questions should be answered
in the Evolution FAQ [1].


Thanks,

Paul


[1] http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/FAQ#Where_does_Evolution_store_my_data.3F


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[Evolution] Evolution and Midori web browser: Links not opened in running instance

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Evolution folks,


using Debian Sid/unstable with GNOME 3, Evolution 3.2.2 and Midori 0.4.3
having an instance of Midori running and clicking on a link/URL in a
message in Evolution, the URL is not opened in a new tab as it used to
but Midori is started again as a new separate program (new PID).

Midori is set up as my default browser in the GNOME settings.

This used to work and I think that switching from GNOME Classic to GNOME
3 is the reason. Also I have no idea what to look for to find the cause
for this behavior.

Could someone please try to reproduce that before I create a ticket for
this in the GNOME bug tracking system.


Thanks,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution and Midori web browser: Links not opened in running instance

[Paul Menzel]

Am Samstag, den 21.01.2012, 10:48 + schrieb Pete Biggs:
  using Debian Sid/unstable with GNOME 3, Evolution 3.2.2 and Midori 0.4.3
  having an instance of Midori running and clicking on a link/URL in a
  message in Evolution, the URL is not opened in a new tab as it used to
  but Midori is started again as a new separate program (new PID).
  
  Midori is set up as my default browser in the GNOME settings.
  
  This used to work and I think that switching from GNOME Classic to GNOME
  3 is the reason. Also I have no idea what to look for to find the cause
  for this behavior.
 
 The URL handler that Evolution uses is set as part of Gnome Preferences
 and you've already said that it is set correctly.  Beyond that Evolution
 doesn't know how to do anything.  I have a feeling that this is
 behaviour that is set in the browser itself. 

Good to know.

 In Midori go to Preferences - Browsing and make sure the Open new
 pages in: is set to New tab.

I checked that setting and it is set to »New Tab«.

A second test I did now was to enter `midori http://example.org/` in the
terminal and in that case with an instance of Midori running a new tab
was opened in the running instance.

The last test was to open an URL from another GNOME program like GNOME
Terminal. This showed the same behavior as Evolution and therefore this
looks like a general GNOME issue.


Thanks for your quick response with suggestions,

Paul


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Re: [Evolution] Evolution and Midori web browser: Links not opened in running instance

[Paul Menzel]

Am Samstag, den 21.01.2012, 11:26 + schrieb Pete Biggs:
  
  A second test I did now was to enter `midori http://example.org/` in the
  terminal and in that case with an instance of Midori running a new tab
  was opened in the running instance.
  
  The last test was to open an URL from another GNOME program like GNOME
  Terminal. This showed the same behavior as Evolution and therefore this
  looks like a general GNOME issue.
 
 I wonder if it's possible that something got confused and there are two
 versions of the browser on your system.  If you do 'which midori' and
 'gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http' does it come up with
 the same location for the browser on both?

It looks like the same.

$ which midori
/usr/bin/midori
$ gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http
 command = midori %s
 needs_terminal = false
 enabled = true


Thanks,

Paul


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