Re: [Evolution] Reliable Palm device?
- Original Message From: Adam Tauno Williams awill...@opengroupware.us ... I've never had great luck with palm devices and Evolution. Partly, perhaps, because I'm using versions that come with distros (usually either SuSE or Ubuntu) and they're never the latest. ... I'm not aware of a good local syncing solution. I'd recommend taking a look at Funambol myPORTAL for an excellent and *real* Open Source [unlike g...] cloud solution if you are open to that. Funambol can sync just about anything that has IP connectivity. Well, actually, I'd be fine with a distributed service, and willing to pay (modestly!) for it. However, I took a look at the funambol link and can't make head or tail of it. It seems to say we sell stuff to people who sell stuff to you. We'll let you try it free for 90 days, but then you must buy it from one of our customers. Unfortunately, I can't see who the heck I'm supposed to buy it from :( I probably just missed the relevant page, but it was quite frustrating. Could you point me at someone who is actually willing to provide me, as a single end-user, with a usable service? Cheers, Simon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Reliable Palm device?
- Original Message From: Ng Oon-Ee ngoo...@gmail.com To: Christopher M Bailey ch...@chrisbailey.au.com Cc: Simon Roberts thorpfl...@yahoo.com; Evolution e-list evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Sun, October 18, 2009 3:57:11 AM Subject: Re: [Evolution] Reliable Palm device? On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 18:54 +1100, Christopher M Bailey wrote: On Sat, 2009-10-17 at 22:50 -0700, Simon Roberts wrote: Hi all, I've never had great luck with palm devices and Evolution. Partly, perhaps, because I'm using versions that come with distros (usually either SuSE or Ubuntu) and they're never the latest. Anyway, my girlfriend has been clinging to windows because of my inability to make Linux behave properly with her palm, but now her palm has died. So, I figure maybe now is the time to influence her purchase and try to get her to buy one that is known to be rock solid with Evolution (including not the latest versions). What should she get? She doesn't need a fancy one, and doesn't want to spend a bunch on it. But it must be reliable, and must work 100% with Linux. Indeed, is this the right list, or should I direct this question elsewhere? Thanks! Simon You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions. — Naguib Mahfouz If you want something solid with Linux, would a net book do the job? Or are you looking more at a smart phone? Considering this is the evo-list... The only 100% reliable palm synchronization app I've found on Linux is J-Pilot (honest response, don't flame please). Evo syncs well enough, but data goes missing (birthdays and addresses mainly). The type of Palm shouldn't really matter, you're going to be getting an OS5 anyway (unless you're looking at the Palm Pre and up, with WebOS, then its a totally different ballgame, no Linux sync yet I believe). What I do is use JPilot to sync, and I have my own script which I run from time to time to export an address book to Evo. Not the best of solutions, but it works for me. Also I don't sync calendars... Ah, yeah, I use JPilot myself, but she needs calendars as well as address book,, and is accustomed to running those in the same app as mail. Might be able to work on the accustomed style thing, but we'll see. Thanks, Simon __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Reliable Palm device?
Hi all, I've never had great luck with palm devices and Evolution. Partly, perhaps, because I'm using versions that come with distros (usually either SuSE or Ubuntu) and they're never the latest. Anyway, my girlfriend has been clinging to windows because of my inability to make Linux behave properly with her palm, but now her palm has died. So, I figure maybe now is the time to influence her purchase and try to get her to buy one that is known to be rock solid with Evolution (including not the latest versions). What should she get? She doesn't need a fancy one, and doesn't want to spend a bunch on it. But it must be reliable, and must work 100% with Linux. Indeed, is this the right list, or should I direct this question elsewhere? Thanks! Simon You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions. — Naguib Mahfouz ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] using skype
- Original Message From: Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.com To: evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 11:46:31 AM Subject: Re: [Evolution] using skype 2009/5/25 Simon Roberts : Can I dial ordinary phones using Ekiga? What does it cost, and whom do I pay? Does Ekiga connect to skype users (most of my contacts are already there and won't be moving). Yes, Ekiga uses real voip protocols, used by all normal telephony service providers in all countries. Skype, on the other hand, cannot be used by real telephony service providers. Using normal VoIP instead of Skype, means competition, which means lower prices and higher availability. You can also purchase VoIP hardware that works with SIP and H.323, like Ekiga uses. There are many telephony service providers around the world and it's quite common for businesses to have their own telephony service. You can use Ekiga with that, but you cannot use Skype, since it doesn't use real VoIP protocols, but something proprietary to Skype only. However, if you use Ekiga, you're not depending on Ekiga in any way. All compliant VoIP solutions can work with public protocols. There are many, many different softphone solutions for Windows, almost all of which are compatible with Ekiga. There are also many manufacturers of compliant hardware phones, like Cisco, Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Motorola and Siemens (of the top of my head). All major manufaturers support SIP. Would you buy a phone from Nokia if you could only call other Nokia phone owners? -- Thanks for the enthusiastic and detailed reply. That answers the first question, but not the second, third, and fourth: 2) Whom do I pay for service that allows me to call ordinary phones, and 3) how much does it cost? 4) Can I call other skype users from Ekiga BTW, I'm not sure what you're getting at in your final point, but I most certainly can call ordinary phones from Skype. I don't particularly care how they do it, just that the cost is reasonable (which it certainly is--I just spent two weeks in Poland, calling my girlfriend's cell phone in the US, for 2cents per minute). Thanks, Simon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Need help fixing corrupt folders/indexes?
Hi all, I've been suffering very slow startup times by evolution mail recently, and I see headers for emails, and I see emails, but the two don't match. I concluded that the indexes on my inbox are messed up. I found in the FAQ this suggestion, which seemed like a good way to get the indexes cleaned up. Why do I get an error Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync? If you get an error popup like: Error while Expunging folder. Error storing `~/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox (mbox)': Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync.. Try the following operations: * Stop evolution completly with the command evolution --force-shutdown * Remove the corresponding files with the file ending .ev-summary and .ibex.index, in this example you should remove the file ~/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox.ev-summary and ~/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox.idex.index. * Restart evolution, it will be slow to come up because it recreates the indexes. Well, I did that, and now it doesn't come up ever that is, I started it, and it gave it's usual messages about storing folder 2% complete and 18 hours later, it's still saying the exact same thing. Help please :) I'd really like to get my inbox back if I can, and no, last week's backup isn't much use, because all this week's emails aren't in it! BTW, this is Evolution 2.22.1.1 on OpenSuSE 11.0. Many thanks in advance for any help. Cheers, Simon You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions. — Naguib Mahfouz ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Need help fixing corrupt folders/indexes?
- Original Message From: Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.ve To: evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:27:10 AM Subject: Re: [Evolution] Need help fixing corrupt folders/indexes? On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 09:08 -0800, Simon Roberts wrote: Hi all, I've been suffering very slow startup times by evolution mail recently, and I see headers for emails, and I see emails, but the two don't match. I concluded that the indexes on my inbox are messed up. I found in the FAQ this suggestion, which seemed like a good way to get the indexes cleaned up. Why do I get an error Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync? If you get an error popup like: Error while Expunging folder. Error storing `~/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox (mbox)': Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync.. Try the following operations: * Stop evolution completly with the command evolution --force-shutdown * Remove the corresponding files with the file ending .ev-summary and .ibex.index, in this example you should remove the file ~/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox.ev-summary and ~/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox.idex.index. * Restart evolution, it will be slow to come up because it recreates the indexes. Well, I did that, and now it doesn't come up ever that is, I started it, and it gave it's usual messages about storing folder 2% complete and 18 hours later, it's still saying the exact same thing. Help please :) I'd really like to get my inbox back if I can, and no, last week's backup isn't much use, because all this week's emails aren't in it! BTW, this is Evolution 2.22.1.1 on OpenSuSE 11.0. Many thanks in advance for any help. 2.22 is a bit old. If possible, upgrade to version 2.24.3 (released a few days ago). It seems to have improvements in several areas that could help you. poc That might be true, but the idea of upgrading while the database is corrupt seems perilous indeed... I really think I need to stabilize the dataset first. By the way, I notice something else. (And a little more history). I had not bothered to expunge my trash, being the paranoid type (paranoid about lawyers :) but I got bored of carrying 70,000 old, and mostly junk, emails around, so I did so not long ago (after the start of the slow behavior, and after the first occurences of strange headers, but before this--seemingly unrecoverable--situation.) Now, looking at my backup, I notice that the Inbox file (which should contain less than 200 emails) is some 1.5GB (yes, gigabytes) in size. Not only that, but the mails it contains include a huge proportion of deleted, and junk stuff. So, it appears that somewhere along the line, my trash and my Inbox were one. Perhaps this is normal? I can conceive of making a trashbox simply by flagging a mail as deleted, though I'm obviously disappointed if thats the case here as it suggests a possibly insurmountable task to separate the two again! Any other thoughts? Many thanks, Simon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] SolvedRe: Evolution backup/restore problem
Thanks, with some fiddling, and reentering some passwords, it's going again now. Cheers, Simon You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions. — Naguib Mahfouz - Original Message From: Michael Keydel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:42:37 AM Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution backup/restore problem Hi all, Hej, I just upgraded my main system from OpenSuSE 10.3 to 11.0. I use evolution for my calendar and mail, and as I've done in the past, I made a backup of my home directory before doing the new install. Then I copied back the contents of ~/.evolution, ~/.gconf/apps/evolution, and ~/.gnome2_private/Evolution. I thought that was all I had done in the past, and that had been sufficient to restore all my mail configurations, folders, etc. But this time it doesn't seem to have worked. When I start evolution, it seems to come up as a new install, and starts taking me through the wizard to set it all up. Do read this? http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ 4 Interoperability 4.1 Where does Evolution store my data? 4.2 How can I completely backup evolution? 4.3 How can I transfer all my Evolution data between computers/to a new partition/to a new computer? With my SUSE 11.0 and Evolution 2.22.1.1 it works. You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions. — Naguib Mahfouz Where do you found this? cu, Michael ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution backup/restore problem
Hi all, I just upgraded my main system from OpenSuSE 10.3 to 11.0. I use evolution for my calendar and mail, and as I've done in the past, I made a backup of my home directory before doing the new install. Then I copied back the contents of ~/.evolution, ~/.gconf/apps/evolution, and ~/.gnome2_private/Evolution. I thought that was all I had done in the past, and that had been sufficient to restore all my mail configurations, folders, etc. But this time it doesn't seem to have worked. When I start evolution, it seems to come up as a new install, and starts taking me through the wizard to set it all up. Can anyone suggest what I might have done wrong? TIA Cheers, Simon You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions. — Naguib Mahfouz ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 2.8.2 forgets passwords
This seems to happen only under KDE. I found this, and then switched to Gnome, and it's working just fine. Paradoxically, you seem to be able to make it remember passwords for a _single_session_ if you _uncheck_ the box for remember! Not a fix, but somewhat preferable at least! Good luck, Cheers, Simon On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 20:35 +0100, Marc wrote: Hello I have a strange behaviour with Evolution 2.8.2 which is delivered with Suse10.2. I created a number of POP Mailaccounts and checked the button to remember the password. When I now try to get mails the first time, I'm asked to enter the password as it should. The checkbox is still set to remember the password. The next time I try to fetch my mails he again ask for the passwords for every account. When I uncheck the mark in remember... and enter the password, this password is remembered until I stop evolution. No more asking. When I now restart evolution I have to enter all the passwords again once, which is where confusing. Does someone have the same problem or better a solution for me? Regards Marc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Trouble installing gnome pilot applet update
Hi all, I need to get a more recent version of the pilot applet for my 64bit system. I have a palm device that crashes the version supplied with SuSE 10.1 (applet version is 2.0.13-43). Trouble is, I found 2.0.14-20-x86-64 (I have a Core 2 Duo running 64 bit) which asked for the devel piece which I also fetched, but these won't install without libdbus... Well, I found an rpm that looked like a contender for libdbus, but trying to install that threatens to delete half the applications on the system (including evolution!) I did this upgrade a few months ago on a 32 bit machine using rpms from somewhere I've now forgotten (the email was on a machine that died and this 64 bit system replaces) and I only had to install a single RPM to make it work. What gives? How should I obtain a cohesive install of a more recent version of the gpilot applet? Where should I get it from? (What list should I ask if this is the wrong one?) TIA, Simon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Restoring mail etc. to Evolution
Glad to be of service, it's about time I gave something back. And I couldn't believe I was alone in facing this so I thought at least it was worth getting into the archives. Cheers, Simon On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 02:11 +, Andrew Stevens wrote: From: Simon Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:02:22 -0700 Well, I answered my own question (how do I insert old evolution files recovered from a dead system into a new install.) It turns out that it's pretty simple, take the contents of the following folders and copy them across: .gconf/apps/evolution .evolution .beagle/Indexes/Evolution* (there are two folders that match this wildcard) Aha! Thanks, I think you've solved my problem too. Copying my old mailbox over from an older installation wasn't working because I didn't know about the .gconf stuff... Once I'd taken that across too it ran an import wizard the next time I started it up. I had to move the old mail back into evolution rather than .evolution as there were some paths assuming the old location, but I can now see a number of folders full of all my old mail. :-) Andrew. -- http://pseudoq.sourceforge.net/ _ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Restoring mail etc. to Evolution
Well, I answered my own question (how do I insert old evolution files recovered from a dead system into a new install.) It turns out that it's pretty simple, take the contents of the following folders and copy them across: .gconf/apps/evolution .evolution .beagle/Indexes/Evolution* (there are two folders that match this wildcard) and for the spam filtering: .spamassassin I also had to delete: .gconfd/saved_state because otherwise it didn't seem to notice new stuff. Finally, Evolution has a neat trick/nasty gotcha, depending on your perspective. Once you've started it in a login session, it never actually stops. This means that you must copy these files into place _before_ you start Evolution for the first time. Otherwise, it still believes what it knew before and it gets very confusing as nothing changes no matter what files you change! This, as you can probably guess, is what screwed me up so badly. Cheers, Simon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Syncing multiple calendars to palm
Hi all, I'm using Evolution and a palm device under Suse 10.1 with the Gnome desktop, and I find that when I sync (which basicly works) that only one calendar gets copied to the palm. I have two other calendars configured in Evolution and those just get ignored. I found the Edit-Synchronization Options-Conduit window-ECalendar-Settings, but this only lets me select a single calendar at a time. I want to merge entries as they go to the palm (because the palm can't handle the idea of multiple calendars, right? However it's done, I need all the calendars to go to the palm.) Thanks in advance for any suggestions, Simon You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions. — Naguib Mahfouz ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Help with syncing multiple calendars to palm
Hi all, I'm using Evolution and a palm device under Suse 10.1 with the Gnome desktop, and I find that when I sync (which basicly works) that I'm only able to sync a single calendar with to the palm. I have three calendars configured in Evolution (Personal, Business, Events) and two of the three just get ignored. I found the Edit-Synchronization Options window, Conduit window, ECalendar, Settings, but this only lets me select a single calendar at a time. I want to merge entries as they go to the palm (because the palm can't handle the idea of multiple calendars, right?) Thanks in advance for any suggestions, Simon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Syncing multiple calendars. Evolution and palm
Hi all, I have multiple calendars in Evolution and want to sync them with my palm device. The conduit only allows me to select a single calendar, so I don't appear to be able to do this directly. Can anyone tell me: 1) Is there a way to do this that I simply failed to notice on the menus (and in the manual)? 2) If there's no standard way, any workarounds suggested? So far, I'm trying this; create yet another calendar, called Palm and copy all the other calendars to it, then sync against that. This gets everything into the palm, but doesn't help me recognize any new appointments that were created on the palm and just arrived in Evolution. This is OK, but makes integrating changes from the Palm into Evolution really hard. Effectively I have to create all appointments in evolution and use the Palm to browse them, which isn't really what the Palm is about. Can I work directly with the calendars? If so are there any utility libraries that will help? I'm wondering about creating a program that does the following: 1) create a temporary calendar called X 2) copy the other calendars to that new calendar 3) sync the Palm and the X calendar 4) determine the diffs between the X calendar and the old version of the X calendar (didn't mention the need to keep this thing between operations, but there you go :) 5) create a list of deleted appointments that were removed by the Palm device 6) alter the X temporary calendar so that it only contains those appointments that were created on the Palm itself. These can then be moved into the appropriate real calendar by hand. (I think this step has to be done by hand, as the Palm device doesn't understand multiple calendars/calendar categories so far as I know). Any thoughts on any of this? TIA! Cheers, Simon You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions. — Naguib Mahfouz ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Palm sync with multiple calendars
Hi All, I have multiple calendars in Evolution and want to sync them with my palm device. The conduit only allows me to select a single calendar, so I don't appear to be able to do this directly. Can anyone tell me: 1) Is there a way to do this that I simply failed to notice on the menus (and in the manual)? 2) If there's no standard way, any workarounds suggested? So far, I'm trying this; create yet another calendar, called Palm and copy all the other calendars to it, then sync against that. This gets everything into the palm, but doesn't help me recognize any new appointments that were created on the palm and just arrived in Evolution. This is OK, but makes integrating changes from the Palm into Evolution really hard. Effectively I have to create all appointments in evolution and use the Palm to browse them, which isn't really what the Palm is about. Can I work directly with the calendars? If so are there any utility libraries that will help? I'm wondering about creating a program that does the following: 1) create a temporary calendar called X 2) copy the other calendars to that new calendar 3) sync the Palm and the X calendar 4) determine the diffs between the X calendar and the old version of the X calendar (didn't mention the need to keep this thing between operations, but there you go :) 5) create a list of deleted appointments that were removed by the Palm device 6) alter the X temporary calendar so that it only contains those appointments that were created on the Palm itself. These can then be moved into the appropriate real calendar by hand. (I think this step has to be done by hand, as the Palm device doesn't understand multiple calendars/calendar categories so far as I know). Any thoughts on any of this? TIA! Cheers, Simon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
