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On Monday, October 24, 2016, Milan Crha  wrote:

> it used to be "less intrusive" in the past, in a very similar way you
> outlined above, hiding the message in the status bar. Not many people
> knew that they can get any details about the error at all.
>

Then I would wish it remained like that. Actually, the bottom bar of
current Evolution is, in my humble opinion, bombarding user with messages
(ie when downloading lots of messages), which are never really read.
I would rather opt for a status bar with:

Left Side: A single line with real status messages, Fetching Message
561/12544 for example. or like out look "all folders up to date", "folder
being updated". etc. Clicking it could bring a window with all log messages.

Right Side: a simple message on connectivity and last update time of that
account. Connected or Disconnected, Updated at 10:20. Connection Error.
Again, clicking it will reveal details.

If you have access to any Outlook, 2007 or later, I would recommend to have
a look at that. Never displays any workflow breaking, or screen estate
steling messages to the user on main widow, even if there are errors.

What I aimed for was a change in the evolution-activesync to use
> GNetworkMonitor (or better ENetworkMonitor from eds) to check first
> that the destination server is available and only if it is then do the
> network I/O, which can eventually fail, but with other error message
> than the one you see. The IMAPx and other remote accounts do that, and
> you get that "online/offline" icon in the folder tree for them.

OK, that would be an improvement. In other cases, although my
"Evolution-Activesync" displays errors (ie can't fetch message, can't
login, username/password error, etc.), actually there's no error and
clicking another message starts downloading and showing it. You can then
click the "error generating message" and it magically shows as well. Not
sure what's going on there. (looks like some kind of microsecond timeout
limit, etc.)

Thanks,
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Re: [Evolution] Muting Error Messages in main window

On Monday, October 24, 2016, Milan Crha  wrote:

> If I'm not mistaken, then it would be in the evolution-activesync. Fill
> a bug in GNOME's bugzilla against it and hope for a fix.

I'm not sure to agree with this. The error may be coming from the
Evolution-Activesync component (and sometimes from any account), but I do
not need to be bothered with this pressing a button each time. I know the
error and I expect it, since this account (and some IMAP) are not
accessible when I'm in corporate network. At least there could be a button
to "do not show again".

The error message in Evolution shall be less obtrusive and I think such
change, if accepted, is within Evolution main window.   A small icon and a
sticky text on the bottom right corner can highlight an error situation and
clicking it can reveal more details.

Br,
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[Evolution] Offline Messages Age in IMAP

On Monday, October 24, 2016, Milan Crha > wrote:

> Hi,
> I would try to set in your IMAP account:
>
>   [x] Show only subscribed folders
>
> and then in Folder->Subscriptions unsubscribe from too old folders,
> then enable offline download for all the folders.
>

Yes, but given November 2016, this would mean I'll have 2016 and 2015
synced, more than I need :) I would need Nov 2015 onwards (ie 1 year
backwards). Thunderbird & Outlook can define such "age" for sync.


> By the way, I do not know whether there is any such bug report (feature
> request) filled already, but if it's not, then it would be nice to
> have, because I believe other users would also appreciate such
> functionality in the Evolution.
>

Opened the below one:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773419

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution Crashing when forwarding when using Wayland

On Monday, October 24, 2016, Milan Crha  wrote:

> having actual backtrace of the crash helps to identify whether anything
> similar is already known or whether you face a new thing.

> Other details also matter. For example, what is your Forward style? By
> any chance, is it "Forward as Attachment"? I cannot reproduce it
> myself, but there is the below bug report, which may or may not be the
> same as what you see (it depends on your backtrace and your settings):
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773274

Thanks Milan for your response. My forward style is like Outlook, so
inline. I updated my Arch system and I don't get this anymore. If I get it,
I'll write it and try to get a backtrace.

Emre

PS. I got other issue with Evolution in Wayland, where the Evolution main
window is totally black. I shall report this separately as well if it
re-occurs. Switched to xorg for the moment for work.

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Re: [Evolution] Offline Messages Age in IMAP

2016-10-23 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Monday, October 24, 2016, Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:

> There is no such feature (other than manually deleting old archives of
> course).

Thanks Patrick. OK, it's a pity as it made life simpler (ie mid 2016, you'd
have your 2016 folder and half of 2015 folder synced).

Anyway, I'll need to find a workaround.

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[Evolution] Offline Messages Age in IMAP

2016-10-23 Thread Emre Erenoglu

Hi,

I have an IMAP server which I use for archiving purposes. It has folders
for each year. In Windows, I set Outlook and Thunderbird to synchronize
last 1 year of emails locally, so that I can access them while I'm
travelling/disconnected, etc. (ie in the office, not having access to the
archive server at home).

I can see in Evolution 3.22.2 that there's an option to "synchronize email
locally for offline operation" and folder settings which states "copy
folder content for offline operation", but I cannot find the setting to
limit the age of synced items. (I do not need 3-4 years of offline data,
last 1 year is sufficient).

Am I missing something or is this a new feature that's not implemented?

PS. Likewise, I wonder how Gmail is handled in Evolution in offline mode,
since it can have Gigabytes of data.

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[Evolution] Muting Error Messages in main window

2016-10-23 Thread Emre Erenoglu

Hi,

I'm using Evolution 3.22.2 in up to date Arch system. I have several
accounts in it, and one of them is an Exchange Activesync account using
Evolution-Activesync from Gnome git.

This account is not accessible when I'm inside the corporate network.  So
each time Evolution starts, it gives me a message in the upper part of the
main window stating:
Failed to refresh folder "Account_Name : Inbox
The reported error was "GDBus.Error:org.meego.activesyncd.Error.Failed:
HTTP request failed: 7 - Connection terminated unexpectedly"."

How can I mute this error? I don't have to see it each time. Alternatively,
I would be just happy to see a disconnected icon on left folder list like
an IMAP account?

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Re: [Evolution] Feature request: Signatures without '--'

2016-07-20 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 8:07 PM, bg  wrote:
>> I find those preceeding "--" before signatures in e-mails very
>> disturbing.
I agree with this.

> bg:
>
> Then you are not thinking it completely through. Surely it cannot have escaped
> you that that artifact appears ahead of the sig block for a reason. Very 
> likely a
> reason that does a service for a great many users of the software. Your 
> request
> to eliminate it is therefore profoundly self-centered and thus wholly 
> undeserving
> of consideration.

This looks like the "html is unnecessary in emails" discussion.

For sure there's a good reason why it exists, but that reason does not
seem to be valid in business world usage of email. In business world,
I get 40k emails a year on average, and never seen it.

If Evolution encourages usage in corporate world with MS Exchange
servers and the colleagues using Outlook, then we need to play with
the rules of Outlook. Outlook do not have such preceeding "--".

My two cents...

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution is not communicating with the Gnome Keyring

2016-07-04 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 5:40 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan  wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2016-07-03 at 20:13 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2016-07-03 at 11:07 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
>
> Evolution is running under KDE.  For the last day or so (I think ever
> since I installed a new version on 2-July), evolution has been
> requesting passwords whenever it needs to communicate with the POP or
> SMTP server, i.e. whenever it needs to send or receive email.
>
>
> This is new behavior, up till 2-July, a pop-up box would be displayed
> once when evolution started, requesting my own password, which would
> (I
> believe) open communications between evolution and Gnome Keyring.
>  After
> this one message, evolution would have access to the passwords.

Hi, I had the same with KDE Plasma 5 SDDM in Arch. I recommend using
the following Wiki article to enable pam stuff to unlock keyring:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME/Keyring#With_a_display_manager
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KDM#KDM_and_Gnome-keyring

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Re: [Evolution] EWS operations using a single queue?

2016-02-12 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Robert Munteanu 
> That would be
>
>   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=731454
>
> I guess.
>

Yeah, and this as well could be related.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=733276

Btw, are you having similar issue when downloading a large message for
offline use? I mean, if you receive a 10meg email, while caching it
for offline use, do you get new ones at least on the message list? Can
you open them if you click on them? Or does everything wait until the
10meg email is downloaded completely?

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Re: [Evolution] EWS operations using a single queue?

2016-02-12 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Robert Munteanu
 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Using evolution{,-ews} 3.18.4, server is outlook.com .
>
> I often notice that 'big' operations tend to block others from
> happening. A couple of examples:
>
> - expunding the 'deleted items' folder when it has a large number of
> messages ( 2k+ )
> - downloading a large number of messages, usually after not connecting
> for a long time
>
> When this kind of operation is executed all others are queued, including:
>
> - retrieving a single message
> - storing folder state ( reading messages, moving to another folder)
>
> When the 'big' operation takes a long time, all the others are blocked
> ( I sometimes see dozens to pending operations ) leading to a poor
> user experience.
>
> Can this be improved somehow? I guess there are a couple of options
>
> 1. Splitting big operations in smaller chunks ( e.g. delete messages
> in batches of 100, I noticed the outlook.com web UI does this ) and
> interleave them with more recent tasks
> 2. Process more than one tasks at a time
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert
>

Hi Robert,

Check bugzilla for my reports, I have files some bugs some time ago on
this issue. This is applicable to Exchange Servers as well.

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Re: [Evolution] Win32 Build Status

2015-09-26 Thread Emre Erenoglu

Hi Pete,.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Pete Biggs  wrote:
>
>> I've seen some patches being pushed for Win32 support.
>
> Where have you seen those?

This one for example:

https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution/commit/?id=9ab8c7d688170738d45513dfef1809fdfa5999b5

> Evolution for Windows *used* to exist. It didn't work properly, it was
> an embarrassment.

Yes I know those, but seeing some patches created a question mark on my mind...

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[Evolution] Win32 Build Status

2015-09-25 Thread Emre Erenoglu

Hi,

I've seen some patches being pushed for Win32 support. Would there be
any "status page showing where we are in having a functioning Win32
build?  I looked around but could not find anything recent nor any
downloadable executable.

I would love to use it instead of Thunderbird or Outlook on my Windows stations.

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Re: [Evolution] Authentication Issues with Exchange Web Services

2015-06-10 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Jun 10, 2015 9:40 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.ve wrote:
 
  Fedora is normally quite up to date (F22 has Evolution 3.26) but no
  doubt other choices are also available.

 That of course should have said 3.16 (!)

Patrick but we now have 3.17 already no? Is there a distribution which
really keeps up to date on stable releases? (even arch was falling behind I
think. Maybe gentoo?)

Ps. Ubuntu 15.04 can also have 3.16 with a PPA...

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Re: [Evolution] Authentication Issues with Exchange Web Services

2015-06-10 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Jun 10, 2015 11:40 PM, Roy Reese waterbeare...@gmx.com wrote:
 Arch likely is not very far behind. Manjaro, which delays just a bit
more, has 3.16.2 which arrived in either the update of the 17th or 30th of
May. I expect another update this weekend which may see 3.16.3.

Yeah, but we are already at 3.17.2 stable as far as I can see from git and
we may see 3.18 in some weeks I guess. Why are they stuck at 3.16?

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Re: [Evolution] compile my own --- in addition to: Authentication Issues with Exchange Web Services

On Jun 9, 2015 21:51, Paul Smith p...@mad-scientist.net wrote:

 On Tue, 2015-06-09 at 20:38 +0200, Roy Reese wrote:
  Version numbers at the moment exaggerate the situation a bit given
  that version numbers in Evo were changed to match Gnome.

 Although you're right that Evo in Ubuntu 15.04 is only one version
 behind the latest, it's misleading because Evo only made that one
 release in the last year.

 The Evo currently available in Ubuntu has a number of known and
 already-fixed bugs, unfortunately, even though it's the latest 3.12
 version.

The thing is that 3.16 has webkit composer (proper html editing) and more
enhanced EWS support than 3.12. For my use case, I use evolution as its the
best and proper Exchange Server supporting client out there, and 3.16 is
the minimum I can accept due to those 2 reasons above.

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Re: [Evolution] compile my own --- in addition to: Authentication Issues with Exchange Web Services

On Jun 9, 2015 19:19, Tom t...@prost-net.de wrote:

 Am Freitag, den 05.06.2015, 21:45 +0400 schrieb Emre Erenoglu: (...)
  Note that Xubuntu 14.04 Evolution packages are pretty old, even
  ancient (3.10 if I understand right). Even Vivid 15.04 has very old
  packages. So I compile my own from time to time. Alternatively, if you
  upgrade to Vivid 15.04, you can use Fabien Tassin PPA here:
  https://launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3  and use 3.16.x
  which is relatively recent.
 
  Emre

 Hi,

 I'm often noticed - particularly on this list, that my Evolution
 packages are pretty old, even ancient (and here it's 3.2.3 as it came
 with Precise and it will doggonit stay as long as Precise stays or I'll
 find a safe way to do, what Emre Erenoglu does). But what is the
 (Ubuntu) procedure for that ?

Hi Tom,

If you are not experienced in compiling stuff, I strongly recommend you to
upgrade to Ubuntu 15.04 and then simply add the PPA I've given to use 3.16
which is pretty OK.

If you are adventurous and don't mind to mess up your system with many dev
packages etc, then I think you can do the following (roughly!)

The problem is to setup initial build environment. Then each new release,
if it still is compatible with the system Gnome libs, compiles easily.

Here's what I do, but I may be missing steps since it's been a few months
since I setup last build environment :

0) make sure you use Ubuntu 15.04, enable source pancake repositories. This
below procedure may need updated library packages in the gnome3 PPA, I
don't remember, so it may be needed to add that PPA first as well.
1) apt-get install build-essential
2) apt-get build-dep evolution-data-server
This command will install all development packages needed for compiling
evolution data server, which is the 1st package we need. (there will be
some missing and some outdated!)
3) download and extract latest stable evolution data server. cd into that
directory
4) run  ./autogen.sh
5) run ./configure --help and check options. I use --prefix /usr/local
(unnecessary since it's the default) and some other options to disable some
unused features (for my use case)
6) at this stage, you will probably have errors. You need to read and fix
them. You may be missing auto tools packages, other SW needed for
compilations, some libraries, or some library may be too old.
7) fix above by searching Google, installing packages, finding newer
version of packages (Ie from next Ubuntu of Debian release) or installing
them by manually compiling. (can create system instability)
8) re run configure with parameters and fix more problems that come up,
until configure succeeds
9) run make
10) run make install

At this point, you will have evolution-data-server installed probably at
/usr/local.

Do the same for evolution source file and then evolution-ews source file.
Evolution is equally difficult and evolution-ews is easy.

Then you have latest version installed. Congrats!  Try to run it and see if
it works.

In next update, download sources and try again. Newer release may render
your build environment insufficient to compile again. There can be new or
newer libraries needed, etc. So at some point you may need to upgrade to
Kubuntu 15.10 or 16.04 for example to make your Evolution compile again.

Not that I use Kubuntu so my desktop environment is KDE. So I don't mind
breaking Gnome libraries since the only Gnome app I use is Evolution.

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Re: [Evolution] compile my own --- in addition to: Authentication Issues with Exchange Web Services

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Emre Erenoglu ereno...@gmail.com wrote:

The problem is to setup initial build environment. Then each new release, if
it still is compatible with the system Gnome libs, compiles easily.

Here's what I do, but I may be missing steps since it's been a few months
since I setup last build environment :

0) make sure you use Ubuntu 15.04, enable source pancake repositories. This
below procedure may need updated library packages in the gnome3 PPA, I don't
remember, so it may be needed to add that PPA first as well.

Yes, I checked in my system now, I have the Gnome3 PPA.asctivated in my system

6) at this stage, you will probably have errors. You need to read and fix
them. You may be missing auto tools packages, other SW needed for
compilations, some libraries, or some library may be too old.

Warning, there will be many errors. You need patience and internet
digging to fix them.

In next update, download sources and try again. Newer release may render your
build environment insufficient to compile again. There can be new or newer
libraries needed, etc. So at some point you may need to upgrade to Kubuntu
15.10 or 16.04 for example to make your Evolution compile again.

Here's the script I sometimes use to automate the git master
compilation once everything compiles fine. As it does not do any error
checking,it can render your evolution unusable as it may write
unworkable files over working version, despite errors happening on an
earlier compile command. So use it just as a guidance and do things
manually if you're really want to try. (PS I use it for bug testing if
a developer patches a bug)

Ths script resides in ~/evo and run inside that directory:

#rm *.zip
### below commands download git master, but I recommend only stable releases.
#wget https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution/snapshot/evolution-master.zip
#wget
https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server/snapshot/evolution-data-server-master.zip
#wget
https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-ews/snapshot/evolution-ews-master.zip
#unzip -o ./evolution-data-server-master.zip
#unzip -o ./evolution-master.zip
#unzip -o ./evolution-ews-master.zip
#cd evolution-data-server-master
### below autogen also configures evolution-data-server without gnome
and ubuntu online accounts (since I only use exchange), without ipv6,
without weather, with openldap support, without examples
#./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr/local --disable-goa --disable-uoa
--enable-ipv6=no --disable-weather --with-openldap --disable-examples
#make
#sudo make install
#cd ../evolution-master
### the below command configures evolution without autoar as I could
not get it to work, and without spamassassin, but I have bogofilter in
my packages so it compiles with bogofilter
#./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr/local --enable-gnome-desktop
--disable-autoar --disable-gtk-doc-html --enable-smime --enable-nss
--disable-weather --without-help --with-openldap --enable-pst-import
--with-spamassassin=no
#make
#sudo make install
#cd ../evolution-ews-master
#./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr/local
#make
#sudo make install

All above lines are commented out with #, thus the script does not do
anything unless you remove the #.

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Re: [Evolution] compile my own --- in addition to: Authentication Issues with Exchange Web Services

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Paul Smith p...@mad-scientist.net wrote:

 On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 00:09 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:
  If you are not experienced in compiling stuff, I strongly recommend
  you to upgrade to Ubuntu 15.04 and then simply add the PPA I've given
  to use 3.16 which is pretty OK.

 It's great to have this PPA, but Evo 3.16.0 has some pretty significant
 bugs that have been fixed in subsequent point releases.  For me, it's
 less stable than the latest 3.12.x.

 Also, last time I checked this PPA version doesn't allow you to install
 unless you uninstall gnome-online-accounts ... not sure why?


Depends on use case as I said. 3.12 does not support Webkit2 HTML composing
so not possible to use it at work for me. 3.16 may have bugs but it has
less on EWS and does webkit2 composer.

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Re: [Evolution] Authentication Issues with Exchange Web Services

2015-06-05 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Parikh, Samir samir.par...@nationalgrid.com
 wrote:

  Based on this, what values should I be entering for my username (e.g.
 DOMAIN\username or just username) and the URL fields (e.g. just accept
 what is returned via the FETCH URL button or use the URL used to access
 OWA)?

Hi,
I always use DOMAIN\username, just give it a try. Also just accept what
autoconfig has given you, if it does not work, then try something like:  
https://webmail.companyname.com/ews/exchange.asmx;  but we cant' be sure
that it would work, so if both autoconfig and this url does not work, you
need to ask your admin which protocols are enabled on the server (you need
EWS) and what is the EWS URL.

Note that Xubuntu 14.04 Evolution packages are pretty old, even ancient
(3.10 if I understand right). Even Vivid 15.04 has very old packages. So I
compile my own from time to time. Alternatively, if you upgrade to Vivid
15.04, you can use Fabien Tassin PPA here:
https://launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3  and use 3.16.x which is
relatively recent.

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Re: [Evolution] Upgrade Evolution outside of Ubuntu mechanism

2015-03-25 Thread Emre Erenoglu

aOn Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:13 PM, Tim Wescott t...@wescottdesign.com
wrote:


 I do appreciate the suggestion, however much my previous answer may have
 sounded brusque.  I just have reasons to think long and hard before
 going away from Ubuntu derivatives.


Hi Tim, if you could use Ubuntu Vivid or Utopic, you can use the following
PPA:
https://launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3
I'm using it now.

Otherwise, when I used 14.04, I self compiled Evolution since I needed
webkit composer. To do it, you need to first
sudo apt-get build-dep evolution-data-server
to get all required dependencies.

You can then download any version you like for evolution-data-server,
evolution and evolution-ews (only if you use exchange) from the Evo github.
https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-data-server
https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution
https://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-ews

You can then extract them into a folder, and start trying to compile:

My Example for Evolution-Data-Server, run inside the extracted zip folder:
./autogen.sh
   ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --disable-goa --disable-uoa
--enable-ipv6=no --disable-weather --with-openldap --disable-examples

This may create some errors, also depending on the version you use. For
example, you can't compile 3.16 in 14.04 or even 15.04, since the
repository lacks the new version of libwbxml2 that Evo requires. So you'll
need to find it online, compile it and install it before proceeding to fix
other missing libraries. I think libwbxml2 was the only problem I faced for
15.04.

Then you can do
   make
and when it finishes, you can do checkinstall to install a packaged
version, or if you're fine to live without a package, you can simply do
   sudo make install
to install in /usr/local

Once the EDS installed, you can do the same for Evolution:
cd ../evolution-master
   ./autogen.sh
   ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --enable-gnome-desktop --disable-autoar
--disable-gtk-doc-html --enable-smime --enable-nss --disable-weather
--without-help --with-openldap --enable-pst-import --disable-spamassassin
   make
   sudo make install

and then the same for evolution-ews if you need it.

If you can get the 1st compilation right, then you can put all these into a
script and it would probably work fine until they change some library
version requirements or new libraries (like it happened on 3.16 for
libwbxml2, while it was fine for 3.13.x)

Let me know how it goes,

Br,
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Re: [Evolution] Upgrade Evolution outside of Ubuntu mechanism

2015-03-25 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:15 AM, Emre Erenoglu ereno...@gmail.com wrote:


 Otherwise, when I used 14.04, I self compiled Evolution since I needed
 webkit composer. To do it, you need to first
 sudo apt-get build-dep evolution-data-server
 to get all required dependencies.


Just to make a point, I might have added Gnome3 PPA to my 14.04 system when
trying to compile Evolution 3.13.x.  I do not remember now. So if you end
up having Gnome stuff too old to compile in 14.04, you can try adding the
PPA as well:
https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/ubuntu/gnome3

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Re: [Evolution] Edit an existing email?

2015-03-12 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Milan Crha mc...@redhat.com wrote:

 Hi,
 right.

 I think there was a feature request for this (the initial thread
 subject) in GNOME's bugzilla, but I cannot find it right now. Rather
 than Edit existing email it might be Add a note to existing email.


I think Milans' proposal is good.  FYI, pure 'create a new memo from or
create a task from options are not as good since they create a copy of
the full information in the email rather than linking to the email.

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Re: [Evolution] Edit an existing email?

2015-03-12 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:06 AM, Bart Hollis b...@conures.us wrote:


 I guess I don't understand.  I sure wouldn't want you to be able to
 modify a message I sent to you and claim it was my message!  And, if it
 was your message originally, you obviously wouldn't be able to change it
 once it's on my machine!  (Yay POP!)  So, why would you want to change a
 message after the fact?


I think this is a legitimate request for usability. I also sometimes find
myself in corporate emailing to put some thoughts or notes onto emails that
came from others, and I want this note to be available in all my clients.
Else I find myself putting such notes elsewhere, without a proper hard link
to that email message.

If you need your email to be secure, you can sign it. The topic of such
request, in my understanding, is not counterfeiting, since it can always be
done if one wants it (even when simply forwarding!). Email is inherently
not secure.

+1 from me on this request.

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Re: [Evolution] Edit an existing email?

2015-03-12 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:


 Reply to that email, sent the reply only to yourself or to store your
 reply in the same folder  use threaded view.


Hi Andre, yes, but
1) This would create another copy of same message, not efficient.
2) Finding that email with the comment (or even remembering that you had
commented on it), would be troublesome. If I forward it, it would be coming
from me in my mailbox, and it would take extra steps to locate that mail in
the future (ie after a few months, a year, etc.)

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Re: [Evolution] [ews] 'Listen for server change notifications' stops working

2015-01-30 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Robert Munteanu robert.munte...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 I notice that sometimes Evo stops receiving updates from the server.
 My configuration is

   [ ] Check for new messages every __ minutes
   [x] Check for new messages in all folders
   [x] Listen for server change notifications

 I know this is not very helpful, so any idea how I might debug this? I
 would guess that the thread/job that listens stops for some reason,
 but I would like to back this up with evidence which maybe points to
 the root cause.

 Evo 3.12.7, KDE 4.14 on openSUSE 13.2 x86_64


Hi Robert, in my case, it was stopping when it was connecting to a server
which did not have the minimum requirements (ie exch 2010), it appears that
our server farm has different versions of Exch Servers. So I edited the
/etc/hosts to point to a server which is for sure Exchange 2010.

Another issue I faced is that it does not actually stop, but the EWS
message download is extremely slow, ie takes 15+ minutes to download a
10meg email) and during this timeframe, the EWS new message notifications
stop as well.

See if your problem could be related to those. I've opened bug reports
these issues if you'd like to follow.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution adds new line after each line in previous message on reply and forwarding

2014-11-29 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Astafev Evgeny astafev.evg...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hello!

 I have a problem with replying to mails from Outlook. I hope that somebody
 can help me, because this problem going to make usage of evolution
 impossible for me.

 I use evolution in company where everybody uses Outlook. Mail server is
 Exchange. When I replying to message or
 forwarding, previous message changes: after each line in editor appears
 new empty line.


Hi, this is a known issue and you can find some bug reports on this if you
search the evolution bugzilla. This is due to the gtkhtml element used in
earlier Evolution versions. There's a new webkit based editor in the last
versions (ie 3.13.8). Although this works well, we are generally
recommended by developers to wait for 3.14 series. If you know how to
compile Evolution yourself, you can give it a try.

While waiting for 3.14 to be released and your distro to catch up with it,
if this is very important for you, I recommend you stick with Thunderbird
(imap) + EWS Calendar add-on (
https://github.com/Ericsson/exchangecalendar/releases), or Thunderbird with
Exquilla (https://exquilla.zendesk.com/home) for full EWS access to
Exchange Server.

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Re: [Evolution] Not able to send mail using EWS?

2014-11-08 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Bjørn T Johansen b...@havleik.no wrote:

 Yes, I know it is a test version, that's why I asked if this was a known
 problem with that version...

 And I was telling the repos I used to check it that was the cause of my
 problem


Hi Bjorn, I'm also using 3.13.7 on Ubuntu 14.04, but mine is a version self
compiled from git. I dont have an issue sending email on EWS account. Maybe
that repo version is flawed.  Or maybe your mailbox is full?
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[Evolution] Using EWS only for Calendar Contacts

2014-08-25 Thread Emre Erenoglu

Hi,

I'm not yet happy with the functionality of EWS interface on the mail part,
due to some issues for which I've already filed bug reports (ie very slow
large attachment downloads, UI block during those large attachment
download, etc.). (download messages for offline mode is also enabled).

I can use IMAP for email as both EWS and IMAP are enabled on our exchange
servers. Is there a way to utliize EWS only for Calendar and Contacts while
keeping mail on IMAP? When I setup EWS account, mail is also automatically
enabled.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.13.3

2014-07-14 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Matthew Barnes mbar...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 11:21 +1000, Wasserland wrote:
  I know 3.13.* is still in development but it seems to work okay
  nevertheless.  My main problem is the font size on the compose mail
  screen.  I seems stuck on a small font despite my attempts to change
  that in preferences.  So I have a few questions please:

 Note that 3.13 is currently carrying a brand new WebKit-based email
 composer that is still undergoing testing and debugging.  This is a
 major rewrite, so be prepared for some instability and quirkiness.


Yep, indeed, it's crashing on me when sending emails and I just filed a bug
report with stack trace...

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Re: [Evolution] Issue with Address Lookup Collection with EWS

2014-06-26 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.ve wrote:

 Why should anyone on the list know that it means that? Very few of us
 compile Evo for ourselves or keep track of what is the latest version of
 the source (assuming that's what you're talking about). We use whatever
 comes with our Linux distro.

 Now that you've explained that it's 3.13.x, we can see that it's an
 unreleased version (the latest stable release currently being 3.12.2)
 which may or may not be related to your original question. That's why
 being explicit about the version is important.

 Hi Patrick, no issues, I should have stated that it's from the Git master.
Since HTML Editor is bleeding edge, I need to use master branch for the
moment, as I'm beta testing it and providing feedback to Tomas.

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[Evolution] Issue with Address Lookup Collection with EWS

2014-06-25 Thread Emre Erenoglu

Hi,

I'm using Evolution with EWS self compiled on 22/06/2014.

It looks like the address collection when sending email does not work with
EWS. I don't see any collected addresses although I've sent many mails.

I've recognized this due to following issues on address lookup:
1) It takes too long time, even if cache locally is selected in account
settings
2) Sometimes it does not return any value
3) If you search by name, it does not return anything, surname usually works

Note that this GAL has 6 contacts inside.

Thanks,
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution performance

2014-05-29 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On May 26, 2014 6:36 PM, Reid Vail rsv...@roadrunner.com wrote:

 Hello group-

 I have a performance question:

 My wife is running ubuntu 13.04 with Evolution 3.6.4 and it seems to me
that it takes a long time to load; about 30 seconds from start to load

 She does have quite a lot of data.  Using the Evolution backup tool the
compressed file is about 1gig.  Her machine is not stellar but should be
sufficient.  She has a standard 7200-rpm drive and a AMD Athlon II X3
processor.  When I watch on the system monitor the CPU isn't working that
hard, memory is fine, but the HD light is on solid until software and data
load.


Hi is it possible that the disk is heavily fragmented or developing some
bad blocks which forces it to try to read the same location several times
until it succeeds? Worth making a disk check.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution performance

2014-05-29 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com
wrote:

 On Thu, 2014-05-29 at 10:31 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:
  Hi is it possible that the disk is heavily fragmented or developing
  some bad blocks which forces it to try to read the same location
  several times until it succeeds? Worth making a disk check.

 Fragmentation shouldn't be an issue, when using a Linux or BSD file
 system.


Yes, this is what it's said about ext, but i don't believe in it much. Any
file system can be subject to fragmentation with extensive read write edit
operations, in my personal belief :)

For example, my ext4 data partition, fsck states:
DATA: 44595/26689536 files (4.7% non-contiguous), 42054610/106736384 blocks
Although this is a pretty empty partition, I still have 4.7%
non-contiguous. Worth checking on your wife's computer, if this is used
since long time...

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Re: [Evolution] Removing Ubuntu 9.04, Installing 14.04. How to move Evo?

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com wrote:


 This is what I could not understood. If the browser window is not to be
 pointed at Gmail, then what is it to be pointed at? Please pardon my
 foolishness-- I am just not at all familiar with the scenario you are
 describing.


Any email provider would do, as you know Gmail might throttle your
connection when you upload 500mb/day.



   Please let me know exactly where using the drag and
   drop, I am to place all the mail folders.


Just add the Gmail account to Evo as a new account. Then you will see
folders appearing on the left.

 
  Wherever you like. Create a new folder (label in Gmail terminology)
  and just put it there. Refresh folder subscriptions in Evo so it will
  see the new folder with your mail in it.

 If I am not supposed to create this new folder (or label) in my GMail
 account, as indicated above, then I'm afraid I still could not
 understand where this new folder is supposed to be. You have said
 Create a new folder and just put it there-- but I am not following
 where this there is, if not in the gmail GUI mail program.


Create a new folder under this new Gmail account that appeared in your
Evolution after you added the gmail account. Then drag  drop your mails
one by into this, one by one at first to try, then maybe select multiple
ones and drag  drop. If all works, try dragging  dropping an entire
folder.

Nothing above is done via gmail website. Everything is done inside
Evolution.

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Re: [Evolution] Can't send mail over an OpenVPN connection with Evolution.

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Christian Dysthe cdys...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi,

 I'm running Evolution 3.10.4 on Ubuntu GNOME 14.04. I am not able to
 send mail over an OpenVPN connection with one of my IMAP accounts, but
 can send from others (this mail is sent with Gmail while on the VPN).
 I get the following error message after a while when trying to send
 from this particular account:

 Cound not connect to mail.XX.com:587: I/O operation timed out.

 I can send with this account when not on the VPN. What could the problem
 be?


When you are on the vpn, can you try to a traceroute to that address? For
example, It may be that this server is in your internal network and when
you connect to VPN, all connections are routed through the VPN but since
this network is internal, you can't reach the server, etc. etc.
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Re: [Evolution] Removing Ubuntu 9.04, Installing 14.04. How to move Evo?

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Swarup dinban...@sprynet.com wrote:

  Nothing above is done via gmail website. Everything is done inside
  Evolution.

 Oh! This is big news. I never knew this sort of thing could be done. Ok,
 so my .evolution in my /home has over 3 GB of mail in it. Is this going
 to be able to be done? You mentioned that over 500 MB, Gmail may
 throttle my connection.


Yep, so it can take a week or so, if you use Gmail. There can be other mail
providers around which may not have such limitations. (ie your ISP?). Also
note that you could possibly setup your own IMAP server on this PC or any
other PC in your local area network. (I have Dovecot running on my
localhost keeping my mail archives for example)...


 And you mention trying one mail at a time. My outbox has 15,000 mails in
 it. Am I going to be able to transfer large amounts like this by the
 method discussed?


It's just to make sure it works. Once you see it works properly, you can
copy 100 or 100s of mails at once, or even try to copy a whole folder with
15000 mails. This will also be related to the 500meg cap if you use Gmail,
your connection speed to the IMAP Server, etc. It will take considerable
time if you use something out of your own PC.


 When I put my evo mail into that new folder I've created, is it getting
 mailed to the gmail account, or uploaded. I do not want something
 getting mailed and thereby new sets of headers etc attached to it.


No, it's uploaded to the IMAP server, nothing is mailed.

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Re: [Evolution] Can't send mail over an OpenVPN connection with Evolution.

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Christian Dysthe cdys...@gmail.com wrote:

  When you are on the vpn, can you try to a traceroute to that address?
  For example, It may be that this server is in your internal network
  and when you connect to VPN, all connections are routed through the
  VPN but since this network is internal, you can't reach the server,
  etc. etc.

 Thanks. I have looked at it some more. The weird thing is that I can not
 access that mail server at all when on the VPN. a 'telnet mail..com
 587' gets not return from the server but I do get a route from
 traceroute. When I am not on the vpn I get the normal mail server
 response from this server. So this isn't an Evolution problem it seems.


Yes, this isnt an evolution problem if you can't telnet. I recommend trying
with another computer and if it also doesn't work then the problem is
probably somewhere between you and the server, the routing tables might be
wrong or missing return path for packets, there can be a firewall blocking
port 583, etc. etc.

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Re: [Evolution] '--file' option?

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:

 On Mon, 2014-02-24 at 11:07 +0100, Leon Zawodowiec wrote:
  Is it possible to open email files (.eml) from command line with
  Evolution, the same like a new email? The problem occurs when recoll
  returns a search result (which is a file in a filesystem) and
  Evolution doesn't support anything like '--file' to open it like
  regular message.
 
  Is it possible to do it in current release or take into account in
  future releases of Evolution?

 xdg-open ~/whatever.eml allows you to import emails into Evolution.
 Emails are normally attached to an email account and Evolution is meant
 to manage such email accounts, hence it offers you importing outside
 emails via the Import UI.
 I don't see a large usecase for your example but patches are welcome.


This is a very common scenario in corporate use, many people save important
email messages (ie a proposal from a subcontractor that you used in your
own offer, etc.)  for future reference on a certain project folder, rather
than keeping them in an archive.

So yes, it would be very good if Evo could do it. I think kmail can do it
as well as Outlook and Thunderbird.

PS. This may be related to my inability to open emails attached to other
emails in a separate window.
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Re: [Evolution] '--file' option?

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:

 On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 14:45 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:
  On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:
  On Mon, 2014-02-24 at 11:07 +0100, Leon Zawodowiec wrote:
   Is it possible to open email files (.eml) from command line
  with
   Evolution, the same like a new email? The problem occurs
  when recoll
   returns a search result (which is a file in a filesystem)
  and
   Evolution doesn't support anything like '--file' to open it
  like
   regular message.
  
   Is it possible to do it in current release or take into
  account in
   future releases of Evolution?
 
 
  xdg-open ~/whatever.eml allows you to import emails into
  Evolution.
  Emails are normally attached to an email account and Evolution
  is meant
  to manage such email accounts, hence it offers you importing
  outside
  emails via the Import UI.
  I don't see a large usecase for your example but patches are
  welcome.
 
 
  This is a very common scenario in corporate use, many people save
  important email messages (ie a proposal from a subcontractor that you
  used in your own offer, etc.)  for future reference on a certain
  project folder, rather than keeping them in an archive.

 ...and that's why Evolution supports importing emails. :)

  So yes, it would be very good if Evo could do it.

 Evolution can import emails, via its UI.


We don't need to import them, just to open and show. When closed, mail
stays inside the disk folder, not in Evolution.

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Re: [Evolution] Mail List Sorting Issue

On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Milan Crha mc...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 22:32 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:
  I expect the sorting to be 1st based on surname then 2nd within the
  same surname to be sorted by date. In my Evolution 3.11.90 compiled
  with jhbuild (webkit-composer master branch, rebased 13 days ago), 2nd
  level sorting by date is not working. MEssages are shown in mixed
  order.

 Hi,
 I just committed a change [1] for 3.11.91+ which makes it slightly
 easier to pile columns for sorting directly from the view, instead of
 visiting the subdialog with customize of sorting options.

 Basically, the commit lets you hold a Ctrl key, which will, instead of
 clearing the whole sorting and adding the only column you click the
 header on, add the column into the sorting as the first sort criterion.
 If you hold also a Shift key (together with the Ctrl), then the column
 is added as the last sorting criterion. Clicking on a column header
 which is already used for sorting doesn't change the behaviour, the sort
 order is simply flipped, regardless Ctrl/Shift keys being pressed or
 not.


Hi Milan, thanks a lot for this. I'll re-compile master probably during
weekend and then let you know how it goes.

Would it be possible also the following scenario:
- Clicking the sender column will automatically select date as the 2nd
level sort. The 2nd level sort will be according to its last state (ie
either recent to old or old to recent), or if this is too complicated, can
be just from recent to old.

I know your new function can do the above already, this is just to avoid a
key press since sorting by sender name and then by date is something I
use very frequently in Outlook (I know many of my colleagues also use it
when trying to quickly find a mail from a given person).

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Re: [Evolution] Mail List Sorting Issue

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.ve wrote:

  Would it be possible also the following scenario:
  - Clicking the sender column will automatically select date as the 2nd
  level sort. The 2nd level sort will be according to its last state (ie
  either recent to old or old to recent), or if this is too complicated,
 can
  be just from recent to old.

 Message internal date or received date?

Received date.



  I know your new function can do the above already, this is just to avoid
 a
  key press since sorting by sender name and then by date is something
 I
  use very frequently in Outlook (I know many of my colleagues also use it
  when trying to quickly find a mail from a given person).

 Not sure about the correct semantics here. What if the user has already
 sorted by Subject and then wants to sort by sender? Under your proposal,
 the Subject sorting could easily be lost. To avoid that, Evo would need
 to remember which sort fields had already been selected by the user, and
 in which order (all of this per folder of course). Sounds rather complex
 but I haven't thought through all the implications.


Well, this is how Outlook works, so one could look from it if you have in
hand somewhere :)

For my use case, I nearly never sort by Subject. So this function shall
only work when the mailing list current sort is received date and if the
user clicks sender column. Result will be: mails are sorted by sender
with decending or ascending 2nd level sort. So you will see, from each
sender, mails from recent ones towards old ones.

In outlook, what we did is, you sort your list by received date for daily
work. If you need to find any mail from a person,
1) you click sender with mouse, Outlook sorts by sender, then by ascending
or descenting received date depending on the original received date sort
2) you then click the 1st letter of sender's surname and Outlook jumps to
the first message from this sender.
3) Consequent clicks to the same sender surname 1st letter will move one by
one on the messages from the sender.
4) if there are multiple sender names starting with same letter, then
pressing a 2nd letter would move you to that sender.

For example, if you have a sender with surname Eric and Emre, first click
to E will move to Emre, second click will move to Eric.

After step 1, you don't need to move your hand to mouse..

PS. If this is a good idea, I can check exactly how it works in Outlook.

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Re: [Evolution] Best Distribution to self compile master?

2014-02-21 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 6:57 AM, Thomas Mittelstaedt 
tmsta...@t-mittelstaedt.de wrote:


 Have you tried the command to install build dependencies for evolution:
 apt-get build-dep evolution
 That usually gets the basic libraries installed. The others you might
 need to build manually into your $PREFIX build directory structure.
 Also, you might consider building in a different directory than the
 source directories like:
 $PREFIX/local/build
 $PREFIX/local/src


Hi Thomas,

I installed a virtual Kubuntu 14.04 yesterday and managed to build Evo from
master and to install standard /usr/local. Indeed I had to pull some
libraries with build-dep but you need to be careful as it also brings many
unneeded things like evolution-data-server and the likes. (I also compile
evolution-data-server from master).

So I think it will be possible to use 3.12 in Kubuntu 14.04 without much
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[Evolution] EWS: Calendar moving my appointments 30 minutes forward?

Hi,

This is on Kubuntu 13.10, jhbuild built Evo 3.11.90 webkit-composer branch
which was repo rebased 13 days ago.  Account is exchange with evolution-ews.

I just recognized that for the meetings I created, Evolution pushes it 30
minutes later.  My system timezone is: Asia/Dubai, I tried setting it
manually in Evolution, no change.

When I create appointment, say at 15:00, it appears at 15:00, then 3-4
seconds later, it moves to 15:30. Basically, evolution sets the appointment
on Tehran time zone, rather than the selected Dubai time zone. (ie it sets
is 15:00 Tehran time rather than Dubai time)

Any hints why this can be?

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Re: [Evolution] EWS: Calendar moving my appointments 30 minutes forward?

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Pete Biggs p...@biggs.org.uk wrote:


 What version of Exchange?


Hi Pete, it's Exchange 2010.


 Basically timezones are an horrendous issue in any calendaring
 application - in fact date and time calculations are a disgustingly
 complicated thing in general.  If you search for evolution-ews
 timezone on Google you get some hits on blog entries and bugzilla
 reports on problems and some hints on how to deal with them.  Basically
 you need to make sure Evolution and Exchange are both using the same
 timezone.


It can be horrendous but I think this is a core thing a calendar
application shall do right. The EWS Calendar add-on in Thunderbird is doing
this correctly for example.

The server is probably somewhere in Europe, I'm in Dubai. There's no way
they can be at the same time zone. (And this does not matter when I use
Thunderbird EWS or Outlook)

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[Evolution] Mail List Sorting Issue

Hi,

To find a certain mail in my mailbox or archive, for which I know the
sender but not a keyword from subject line, I sometimes
1)click the TO column header,
2) click any message and press the first letter of the surname of the sender
3) this jumps me to the first message related to this person
So far so good, Outlook-like experience. Now the confusion starts.
My mailbox is normally sorted by date, recent first. When I click TO
column to sort by surname, it sorts by surname but looses the 2nd level
sort by date.

I expect the sorting to be 1st based on surname then 2nd within the same
surname to be sorted by date. In my Evolution 3.11.90 compiled with jhbuild
(webkit-composer master branch, rebased 13 days ago), 2nd level sorting by
date is not working. MEssages are shown in mixed order.

This makes my life very difficult, since I can approximately remember when
a message was sent, but then I have to make a linear search with my eyes to
find the right one, impossible when you have 10s of messages from same
person.

Is this a bug? Shall I file a report?

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Re: [Evolution] Mail List Sorting Issue

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote:

 The sorting is an issue, but there are workarounds. For your situation I
 would use a search folder.

 Edit  Search Folders  Add  [...] surname of the sender

 Then I would sort the content of this search folder by date.

 I don't know a workaround, for the time Evolution needs to sort
 messages. On a 4 GiB RAM, 2.1 GHz dual-core machine, some searches are
 quasi impossible, because it would take too much time, if you have large
 amounts of emails. IOW if you want to find a reply from/to a mailing
 list, you better use Google or better Start Page.


Thanks Ralf for your comment, although it made me depressed :)  I have too
many contacts with possibility of such search. I already made some search
folders for the most common names but there are simply too many, I can't
make a search folder for each :(

I think there's a plan to re-write the search function in Evo with GSoC. I
may need to wait until then :(
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Re: [Evolution] Mail List Sorting Issue

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Pete Biggs p...@biggs.org.uk wrote:


 
 
  My mailbox is normally sorted by date, recent first. When I click TO
  column to sort by surname, it sorts by surname but looses the 2nd
  level sort by date.
 

 Why don't you just use the search bar - the default is to search
 Subjects or Addresses Contains so will pick up the name in the To:
 header, or if that's too nebulous, you could select Recipients
 contain. Whichever, the list will still be sorted by date.


Yes, that's fine, but I can still have too many mails related to this
person and still need the date sorting.  If I click DATE header, then I
will lose the focus on mails coming from this person, if I click the TO,
then the 2nd level date sort is lost.

What works well in TB is that i can search from:person in the quick search
bar using gmailui, so it's fine. This doesn't work that way in Evo yet, so
if I just write a name, I get all sorts of messages that includes this
person, from, to, cc, etc. etc.

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:42 AM, Matthew Barnes mbar...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 22:32 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:
  My mailbox is normally sorted by date, recent first. When I click TO
  column to sort by surname, it sorts by surname but looses the 2nd
  level sort by date.

 Right-click the message list header bar, select Customize Current View
 and you can tailor your sorting options however you want.  You'll have
 to excuse the antiquated UI, though.  It's ancient.

 After that, if you want you can do View - Current View - Save Custom
 View, so you can quickly return to your custom sorting in the future.


Matthew, thanks for this advice. Well, I must admit this is part of the
puzzle, as the save custom view function does not work in my jhbuild Evo.
It does not bring any dialogs in front of me. This may be a bug at master
or just my webkit-composer branch problem or problem with compilation,
that's why I did not mention it.

In any case, this is still not intuitive. Maybe a shortcut key combination
or buttons in taskbar to switch faster between view modes could be better.
(changing view modes needs 2 mouse moves two clicks at least.)

Br,
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Re: [Evolution] Mail List Sorting Issue

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:26 AM, Pete Biggs p...@biggs.org.uk wrote:


  
   I searched for Ric with and without the quotes, the search was very
   quick, still sorted by date, but it found Ric, Frederick,
 Patrick,
   subjects as Benachrichtigung etc., the results were useless.
 
 So constrain the searching by selecting one of the other search types.


This is actually a good idea, thanks. I mean better than nothing. It's
still slow, since I need to use the mouse, go to dropdown box, select
from, and then type what I want to search, but can be faster than
sequential scanning of all mails with my eyes.

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[Evolution] Open attached mails in separate window?

Hi,

I'm trying to open attached mails in Evolution (built from master, 1 week
ago), but Kmail is launched to display this attachment. (this is Kubuntu
13.10)

I know evolution displays the attached mails in a widget box below the mail
itself in the same reading window, but i don't want that since there are
mails with too many attached mails and it becomes a mess to pick  read.
Besides, those mails can also have attached emails inside them, so more
complexity. So i need the attached mails to open in a seperate Evolution
mail reader window.

Is this supported?

PS. these mail attachments seem not to contain any extension

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[Evolution] Open attached mails in seperate window?

Hi,

I'm trying to open attached mails in Evolution (built from master, 1 week
ago), but Kmail is launched to display this attachment. (this is Kubuntu
13.10)

I know evolution displays the attached mails in a widget box below the mail
itself in the same reading window, but i don't want that since there are
mails with too many attached mails and it becomes a mess to pick  read.
Besides, those mails can also have attached emails inside them, so more
complexity.

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Re: [Evolution] How to run evolution without gnome-session?

2014-02-18 Thread erenoglu

On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Matthew Barnes [via Gnome Evolution -
General] ml-node+s1774414n4658633...@n4.nabble.com wrote:

 Clarification about NetworkManager:

 Evolution used to depend on NetworkManager for network status.  It
 doesn't anymore.  Network monitoring is now built directly into GLib,
 and that's what Evolution/EDS has been using since (I think) 3.6.

 I'm not exactly sure how GLib's network monitoring works.  The docs only
 state it's based on the kernel's netlink interface, but I think it works
 with or without NetworkManager installed.

 GLib also lets us test reachability of specific host names, so we can
 more gracefully handle scenarios like a disconnected VPN or switching
 WiFi networks.  Evolution 3.12 will take full advantage of this.


Matthew, it may not be related, but when I was compiling the master with
jhbuild on Ubuntu 13.10, it pulled  compiled NetworkManager as well.

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Re: [Evolution] Open attached mails in separate window?

On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:

 On Tue, 2014-02-18 at 13:46 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm trying to open attached mails in Evolution (built from master, 1 week
  ago), but Kmail is launched to display this attachment. (this is Kubuntu
  13.10)

 Did you try changing the default application handler for that MIME type
 in the settings of your desktop? Looks like it is set to Kmail
 currently.


Thanks Andre. I will try this. But how can evolution launch a window for a
mail? When I tried to launch it with a paremeter to a mail file (ending
with .eml), it did not launch.

Of course, my sistem is very fragile due to jhbuild environment, evolution
can't launch alone and needs jhbuild run dbus-launch --exit-with-session
evolution command to launch. So maybe this is also related.

Not sure how I can add this to a MIME type as an open command.

Br,
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[Evolution] Best Distribution to self compile master?

Hi,

I'm using Ubuntu 13.10. Using Evolution self compiled master built by
jhbuild is a bit problematic, due to dbus, etc and the too many packages it
pulls through when building Evo.
Therefore, I can give a try to different distributions.

Is there a distribution that carries the latest versions of dependencies of
Evo 3.12 (incl webkit), so that I can self-compile it without jhbuild? I
shall be forced to replace only few system packages to prevent instability
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Re: [Evolution] Best Distribution to self compile master?

On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Matthew Barnes mbar...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Tue, 2014-02-18 at 19:02 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:
  Is there a distribution that carries the latest versions of
  dependencies of Evo 3.12 (incl webkit), so that I can self-compile it
  without jhbuild? I shall be forced to replace only few system packages
  to prevent instability of the base system.

 I do most of my Evolution development on Debian Stable, cherry-picking
 newer libraries as needed from Debian Testing, and occasionally build
 (optional) bleeding-edge dependencies straight from git.

 I don't use jhbuild, I install built source code to a prefix under my
 home directory so as not to affect system stability, and I run the EDS
 D-Bus services manually from that install prefix.


Thanks Matthew for your time, hope you would have little more time to
respond to the below as well :)

I tried this in Ubuntu but it started complaining about tons of
dependencies to replace in the system, starting from Gnome3 related
packages, webkit, fontconfig, glib, gnutls, gobject-introspection,
gstreamer, gtk+, gvfs, libnotify, libsoup, librest, pango, polkit, etc.
 etc.  Maybe these are not all needed...

However, your message gave me new energy to try again :)  Maybe I can start
on a beta Ubuntu 14.04 and try over there.

So do I understand right that you configure stuff with;
configure --prefix=$HOME/local  (for example), and then add built library
paths to LD_LIBRARY_PATH before launching evo?
Also, how do you launch the ESD D-Bus services manually?

Thanks a lot,
Br,
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Re: [Evolution] How to Detach Attachments?

2014-02-17 Thread erenoglu

On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Adam Tauno Williams [via Gnome Evolution -
General] ml-node+s1774414n4658596...@n4.nabble.com wrote:

On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 10:29 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
On Mon, 2014-02-10 at 18:42 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:
Would there be a way to detach attachments, like save first and then
delete.
Not that I am aware of, except for the described two steps.
Optionally, a link can replace the removed attachment or the text
file replacing the attachment can contain the location.
What if the location is changed by the user?

+1 I am *very* skeptical of `link` scenarios. My experience is that
this falls apart and creates inconsistent behavior rather quickly.

Well, I've been using this for years in Windows Outlook and I did not face
any issues. Worst case could be that I archive a mail and as well as the
disk location if a project (or subject) becomes too old, or rarely I may do
a re-shuffling of my files in a project but then I'm aware that I've
changed something. The link at least gives me a piece of info that the
removed attachment notice doesn't give: where it was saved before. Knowing
where it was saved before will then help me find its new location easily
without making another step to search. Searching is anyway always possible.

So by adding a link or a pointer to the saved location inside the text, you
lose nothing, but gain an info which will be useful in 90% of the cases (in
my cases at least).

Anyway this link aspect is not the main subject of the request, it's a
bonus. A detach function is priority to gain some seconds from my life and
less strain on my fingers of saving extra mouse clicks :)

PS. I don't use Evo for mailing lists or technical mails, I'm pure business
user and I deal with ~150 mails from many different subjects everyday from
many countries. My mailbox (and archives) can fill up very quickly if I
don't do detaching/deleting attachments.

Br,
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[Evolution] ews - dismissing calendar reminder is not asynchronus

2014-02-14 Thread Emre Erenoglu

Hi,

I'm dismissing a reminder for a calendar meeting. The dismiss action takes
a few seconds. In outlook, it's instant. I guess this is something to do
with contacting the server for confirmation before the event is dismissed.

Can this be done async? Is the UI will dismiss it, then contact server in
the background.
a) things go well, event is also dismissed in the server, so far so good.
b) evolution cant' connect the server to dismiss, in this case:
   b1) keep the local state and do it once the server can be connected (ie
Outlook cached exchange mode)
   b2) just re-pop up the event

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Re: [Evolution] Keyboard Shortcuts for Mark as Read and Unread?

2014-02-12 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:

 On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 03:07 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:
  I checked the help pages to see if there's any way to mark read or unread
  using keyboard shortcuts but I could not find any.
 
  It does not exist or is it undocumented?

 Hmm, looks like it is not covered in

 https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/mail-reading-keyboard-shortcuts.html
 but the shortcuts are displayed under Message  Mark As in Evolution:
 Ctrl+K and Ctrl+Shift+K.


Perfect. Thanks Andre.
I'm new to evolution and testing the webkit-editor branch. I did not think
to look at the menu. I checked the right click menu and there was no
shortcut there, checked the help page, did not find it :)

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Re: [Evolution] Some console error messages

2014-02-12 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Tomas Popela tpop...@redhat.com wrote:

  (evolution:16745): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 157764 was not found when
 attempting to remove it

 I didn't saw this yet. It looks like something in e-d-s.


Hi Tomas. This is jhbuild environment on Ubuntu 13.10, maybe it's the
culprit? Evolution is also very unstable, crashing from time to time even
if I'm not doing anything with it.

Last time, I saw this in console when it crashed:

** (evolution:10559): WARNING **:
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
org.freedesktop.Notifications was not provided by any .service files
/home/emre/bin/runevolution: line 1: 10559 Segmentation fault  (core
dumped) jhbuild run dbus-launch --exit-with-session evolution
g_dbus_connection_real_closed: Remote peer vanished with error: Underlying
GIOStream returned 0 bytes on an async read (g-io-error-quark, 0). Exiting.

I think there shall be core files, any idea where? I can send them to any
interested developer for debugging.

 (evolution:16745): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_closure_unref: assertion
 'closure-ref_count  0'

 This is WK bug https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127474


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Re: [Evolution] Customize Toolbar?

2014-02-12 Thread erenoglu

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Pete Biggs [via Gnome Evolution - General]
ml-node+s1774414n4658517...@n4.nabble.com wrote:

 On Mon, 2014-02-10 at 18:43 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:
  How can I customize the toolbar? I would like to add a button for
  mark as read or mark as unread.

 That's what the envelope icon to the left of the line in the message
 list is for.


Thanks Pete, indeed, I discovered it :)   That's fine.



  Is it possible or not at all?

 No, you can't edit the toolbar without delving into the XML files that
 control it.  I'm sure there must be a bug filed for it somewhere ...
 try

   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=396416

 OK, Understood.

Andre, also thanks a lot for your answer.

Emre




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[Evolution] Customize Toolbar?

How can I customize the toolbar? I would like to add a button for mark as
read or mark as unread.

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[Evolution] How to Detach Attachments?

Hi,

I've seen the option to remove attachments in the menu which appears on
right click on the message. But this totally removes it without presenting
an option to save the attachments first.

So today, I have to 1) save attachment 2) remove attachment

Would there be a way to detach attachments, like save first and then
delete. Optionally, a link can replace the removed attachment or the text
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[Evolution] Some console error messages

Hi,

I'm using a jhbuild compiled webkit-composer branch of Evolution master. It
is launched with:

jhbuild run dbus-launch --exit-with-session evolution

since it does not work with existing dbus session somehow.

I'm getting many of the following errors on the console, are these serious?
How can I debug them or get rid of them?

(evolution:16745): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 157764 was not found when
attempting to remove it
(evolution:16745): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_closure_unref: assertion
'closure-ref_count  0'
(evolution:16745): GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 158469 was not found when
attempting to remove it
(evolution:16745): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_closure_unref: assertion
'closure-ref_count  0' failed




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[Evolution] Keyboard Shortcuts for Mark as Read and Unread?

Hi,

I checked the help pages to see if there's any way to mark read or unread
using keyboard shortcuts but I could not find any.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-ews don't compile due to camel_store_noop_sync

2014-02-05 Thread erenoglu

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:48 PM, Milan Crha [via Gnome Evolution - General]
ml-node+s1774414n465844...@n4.nabble.com wrote:

On Tue, 2014-02-04 at 01:02 -0800, erenoglu wrote:

This build was started with a fully cleaned up /opt/gnome and
~/checkout directories, so I don't know where is the issue.

Hi,
int that case you compile recent evolution-data-server with not recent
enough evolution checkout. I do not use jhbuild at all, so I do not know
how it does its checkouts, but if there is some misconfiguration what to
download, then you might fix it there.

By the way, simple `make uninstall` `make clean`/`make distclean` in
evolution* folders should do the trick too, without actually rebuilding
everything.

In any case, the error you face is often caused by linking different
version of sources, while evolution* core projects highly depend on
up-to-date checkouts.

Thanks a lot Milan for your comment. Actually this sheds the light, as I'm
checking out the webkit-composer branch of evolution, since this jhbuild
environment is to test the webkit composer and feedback the developer upon
a bug report discussion.

I'll wait for him to re-base his branch, then it shall work I hope.

In the meantime, if you would have any idea which patch removes this issue
in the normal evolution branch, I could try to manually apply it to the
webkit-composer.

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Re: [Evolution] evolution-ews don't compile due to camel_store_noop_sync

2014-02-04 Thread erenoglu

On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Milan Crha [via Gnome Evolution - General]
ml-node+s1774414n465843...@n4.nabble.com wrote:

On Fri, 2014-01-31 at 20:54 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:

I'm trying to build master using jhbuild, but I'm hitting the below:

Hi,
usual problem with jhbuild is that it doesn't cleanup the $PREFIX on
such changes, thus it let's you compile dependencies against old
versions in $PREFIX. Just cleanup your $PREFIX and build from scratch,
there is nothing wrong with the commit, as long as you use up-to-date
evolution and other dependencies of the changed package
(evolution-data-server in this case).

Hi Milan, now I tried to re-build again.

1) It got stuck at webkit at/after line CXX libANGLE.la , I broke the build
and re-started it, it worked this time. Hope no issues due to this.

2) Then I got an error at assembly instructions (still webkit), I could not
copy the exact error, but I search some websites earlier and it seems this
happens only on 32bit builds. I managed to workaround this issue by
replacing all : q(newValue) lines in WTF/wtf/Atomic.h with :
r(newValue), so replace r by q.

I think it's time to move to 64 bit system. I'll do with Ubuntu 14.04.

3) Then I got stuck on libNDP dependency for NetworkManager. It does not
exist in Ubuntu. I had to compile and install from source .

4) And finally hit the same issue where I stopped.

CC libemail_engine_la-mail-vfolder.lo
mail-folder-cache.c: In function 'ping_store_exec':
mail-folder-cache.c:1275:3: error: implicit declaration of function
'camel_store_noop_sync' [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]
camel_store_noop_sync (m-store, cancellable, error);
^
mail-folder-cache.c:1275:3: warning: nested extern declaration of
'camel_store_noop_sync' [-Wnested-externs]
cc1: some warnings being treated as errors
make[3]: *** [libemail_engine_la-mail-folder-cache.lo] Error 1

This build was started with a fully cleaned up /opt/gnome and ~/checkout
directories, so I don't know where is the issue.

By the way, I'm not sure why you mention evolution-ews in the subject,

Mistake on my side, I was building evolution-ews but I did not recognize it
was pulling evolution as a dependency and the actual breakage is in
evolution indeed.

Br,
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[Evolution] evolution-ews don't compile due to camel_store_noop_sync

2014-02-01 Thread Emre Erenoglu

Hi,

I'm trying to build master using jhbuild, but I'm hitting the below:

make[2]: Entering directory
`/home/emre/checkout/gnome/evolution/libemail-engine'
make  all-am
make[3]: Entering directory
`/home/emre/checkout/gnome/evolution/libemail-engine'
  CC   libemail_engine_la-mail-folder-cache.lo
mail-folder-cache.c: In function 'ping_store_exec':
mail-folder-cache.c:1276:3: error: implicit declaration of function
'camel_store_noop_sync' [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]
   camel_store_noop_sync (m-store, cancellable, error);
   ^
mail-folder-cache.c:1276:3: warning: nested extern declaration of
'camel_store_noop_sync' [-Wnested-externs]
cc1: some warnings being treated as errors

Can this be related to the following patch that removed the noop_sync
methods?
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/commits-list/2014-January/msg04606.html

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Re: [Evolution] Installing from source assistance

2014-01-13 Thread erenoglu

On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:53 AM, James Lay [via Gnome Evolution - General] 
ml-node+s1774414n4658290...@n4.nabble.com wrote:


 Thanks Emre,

 I gave this a go, but it didn't seem totake I guess.  I apt-get
 remove'd evolution, added the ppa, apt-get update'd, apt-get install'd
 evolution, but when I started, I still had 3.8.4.  Very strange...thanks
 for the post though.


Strange indeed. I did it in my Kubuntu 13.10. I had no evolution installed
on this. It installed fine. Maybe there's an order if PPA is higher
priority or lower priority, or maybe you had remaining packages from 3.8
installation as Evolution would pull many dependencies.

When installed this way, it crashes at account setup for me, but on
consecutive launchs, it works. Since sending HTML email is unbearable
without the still-to-be-implemented webkit editor, I can't use it yet at
work.

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Re: [Evolution] Installing from source assistance

2014-01-12 Thread erenoglu

Hi James,

You may want to try this first:
http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-evolution-3-11-1-on-ubuntu-13-10-saucy-salamander-and-linux-mint-16-petra-via-ppa/



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 Hey all,

 I'd like to start the road to getting the latest Evolution on Ubuntu
 13.10, since the current package is pretty old.  I've not found a lot of
 information online about it, so I thought I'd ask here.  My plan is to
 compile on a development box, then create a .deb package to install on
 my main machine.  Any pointers or guidance would be appreciated...thank
 you.

 James

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[Evolution] any update on the webkit composer viewer

2013-11-23 Thread Emre Erenoglu

Hi,

Would anyone have any update on the status of webkit composer  viewer?

I've checked planning page (
https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Planning310), it states 3.11.x as
milestone for it, and 3.11.x unstable are already available, however,
there's also a note at the top that most of the tasks on planning page
would be delayed to 3.12 or later.

So what would be our expected release for webkit now?

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Re: [Evolution] any update on the webkit composer viewer

2013-11-23 Thread erenoglu

Thanks Andre.  Any idea about the composer? (if it is appropriate to ask).
I've also checked the bug report (which I'm also following), but no update
since some time.
What happens is that you nicely view a mail and want to respond to it, but
then old composer takes it in it hands and you don't get anymore what
you've been viewing.


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 On Fri, 2013-11-22 at 22:20 +0400, Emre Erenoglu wrote:

  Would anyone have any update on the status of webkit composer 
  viewer?

 WebKit viewer has been available for numerous releases already.

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Re: [Evolution] Evolution on 64 bits Linux system

2013-07-31 Thread erenoglu

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Ralf Mardorf-2 [via Gnome Evolution -

 What would happen if you would bottom post? Is it more time-consuming
 for you? Should the users of the mailing lists you join spend their time
 to puzzle through your emails?

it's simple. You would have to sometimes scroll 20 pages worth of
mails to reach the mail you would like to read. Such lenght of mails
are common on a topic in business world and that is why everybody top
posts. I guess MS did some research when making this default in their
outlook (for business mail purposes)

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Re: [Evolution] OT: Warning message about HTML

2013-07-27 Thread erenoglu

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Ralf Mardorf-2 [via Gnome Evolution -
General] ml-node+s1774414n4657510...@n4.nabble.com wrote:
It's a pity that Evolution usually does miss to automatically use the
wanted account :(.

Forwarded Message

On Sun, 2013-07-21 at 07:13 -0700, erenoglu wrote:
I work at a multi-national and Outlook is the norm.

Sure, if a multinational does something idiotic it's automatically a
norm. That's ridiculous.

The American Standard Code for Information Interchange is a kind of norm
at least close to real international norms. When people send me Emails,
using Microsoft fonts that include emoticons, I don't see a smiley,
since it's not a norm, it's breaking the American Standard Code for
Information Interchange in a bad way and I get text with in a haphazard
fashion included letters.

I understand and agree but you know this is real life. MS has the user
base power. Until we get the same user base power, we have to play
with their rules if we want users. Their rules unfortunately don't
conform to American Standard Code. This is the same situation with
office files as well.

Unfortunately, the whole world of humans are like this. Not only IT.
For example, even US do not conform to UN rules policies, etc. as
they do have the power and not UN :)

Br,
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Re: [Evolution] OT: Warning message about HTML

2013-07-27 Thread erenoglu

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan [via Gnome Evolution - 
 To summarize: follow the ground rules of the community you are
 addressing.

Yep, the thing is, my main motivation to use Evolution is to replace
outlook and windows at work, so i have to play with the other
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Re: [Evolution] OT: Warning message about HTML

2013-07-22 Thread erenoglu

On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Bart Hollis [via Gnome Evolution -
General] ml-node+s1774414n465750...@n4.nabble.com wrote:
On Fri, 2013-07-19 at 18:42 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

HTML for emails is completely useless and for many recipient a PITA.
Note that HTML formatting often already gets lost by missing fonts and
not everybody does use a GUI or even a monitor/display to read emails.

2 Cents,
Ralf

Heh, heh, heh... You're preaching to the choir! I agree.

But! If I can't insert pictures in the middle of a message, and put
little moving cuties in my sig line, and make the text different colors
and sizes, then I can't be part of the Windows crowd! They look down on
me and make fun of me!

I work at a multi-national and Outlook is the norm. The norm of
Outlook is top posting, and it's OK since reading mails with bottom
posting quotes are tough when they are 10s of messages on a given
subject. Sometims you're forwarded an email and need to go throught
the whole set of mails bottom up to understand the context as the
quoted parts not always cover everything.

HTML is also a must as there are multiple occasions where you want to
insert a picture and comment on it, or a table and make annotations or
comments over it as well. Many in-line replies carry different font
color (Outlook does a good job of putting your name pick a good color
to differentiate your comments in someone else's mail.
Yes, there may be better methods to do all these things but tough to
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Re: [Evolution] Email content is not displayed

2013-06-18 Thread Emre Erenoglu

On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Christopher Wittenberg
chrischi@web.de wrote:
 the content of the emails are not displayed. This is the case for the
 preview window in the main window as well as  when I open them in a seperate 
 window.
 Strange thing is, if I reply to the mail, or select to edit the text, the
 content is displayed in these windows. I really have no clue why.

Could it be a font rendering problem? Maybe you don't have those fonts
and somehow do not have substitute fonts as well?

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Re: [Evolution] webkit composer alpha/beta to self compile test?

2013-06-15 Thread erenoglu

Thanks Matthew for the info, I'll wait and watch the mailing list for
announcement then!



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[Evolution] webkit composer alpha/beta to self compile test?

2013-06-14 Thread Emre Erenoglu

Hi,

Would it be possible to test the new webkit composer? Would there be
any evolution branch with it to compile  test it?

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Re: [Evolution] expression search / complex search phrase

2013-06-13 Thread Emre Erenoglu

Jun 13, 2013; 5:13am — by  Thomas Mittelstaedt

Why don't you use filters to filter your many emails in your huge INBOX,
assigning tags (labels) to them, moving them into different folders and
so on.
You find that under Edit-message Filters in the main menu.

Thanks Thomas for your proposal as well. Indeed, this type of working
is suitable for many people and some of my team are doing like this.
However, each deal with let's say around 10-20 proposals a year.

As of now, we've already made 100+ proposals, it will easily exceed
200+ by end of the year. One of them that we are about to sign a
contract has 942 messages including the ones in my archive. Making
~200+ folders per year is not sustainable and categorizing mails into
folders also take time if filters don't work (not everybody make a
proper subject line unfortunately).

That's why I've chosen not to use folders at all and I depend solely
on filter/search as I need it through the a daywork. It served me well
until today on Outlook  Thunderbird. As I'm now trying to move to
Evolution (looking forward to the webkit html composer which is the
last blocking point), I was checking if such search is possible in
Evolution as well.

I shall probably make a bug report  request, maybe someday it can get
implemented.

Emre
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[Evolution] Fwd: expression search / complex search phrase

Hi,

I generally have 1500-2000 emails in my inbox before I archive them,
and as part of my daily email activity at work, I depend a lot on
email search.

I'm using Thunderbird  Outlook, what I do in Thunderbird is using the
GmailUI/ExpressionSearch add-on. With this add-on, I can do searches
like:
from:some_guy to:other_guy subject:topic1
and see only mails from some_guy sent to or cc other_guy under the
subject topic1.

some other time, I'm just using from:name subject:topic2 to search for
specific email subject coming from a specific person.

At the moment, evolution does not let me do this and forces me to
choose from a drop-down list with limited choice.

Is there some way to write such complex search phrase?

Note that it becomes much more critical when I do searches on my
localhost imap archive server, containing 15 to 25k messages per year.

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Re: [Evolution] expression search / complex search phrase

On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Emre Erenoglu ereno...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I generally have 1500-2000 emails in my inbox before I archive them,
 and as part of my daily email activity at work, I depend a lot on
 email search.

 I'm using Thunderbird  Outlook, what I do in Thunderbird is using the
 GmailUI/ExpressionSearch add-on. With this add-on, I can do searches
 like:
 from:some_guy to:other_guy subject:topic1
 and see only mails from some_guy sent to or cc other_guy under the
 subject topic1.

 some other time, I'm just using from:name subject:topic2 to search for
 specific email subject coming from a specific person.

 At the moment, evolution does not let me do this and forces me to
 choose from a drop-down list with limited choice.

 Is there some way to write such complex search phrase?

 Note that it becomes much more critical when I do searches on my
 localhost imap archive server, containing 15 to 25k messages per year.

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From: Reid Thompson Reid Thompson ateb com
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 12:06:58 +

Top menu,select search, advanced search, add whatever conditions you
wish.  If it's a search that you do often, then name it and save it for
later re-use.

Thanks Reid for your comment. So do I understand that this feature is
not supported yet and there's no such search possibility?  In this
case, maybe I shall put a bug report and ask for this feature?

Regarding your workaround, my work includes dealing with few hundred
people on a very large geopgraphic region with too many separate
topics (I'm working as a proposals director). making a specific saved
search does not seem possible due to the different search patterns I
use daily. I would end up with at least tens of them but still can't
address all as new ones will be added as we have new proposals to make
:)
The addon in Thunderbird is working very nice and quick for this function.

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[Evolution] expression search / complex search phrase

Hi,

I generally have 1500-2000 emails in my inbox before I archive them,
and as part of my daily email activity at work, I depend a lot on
email search.

I'm using Thunderbird  Outlook, what I do in Thunderbird is using the
GmailUI/ExpressionSearch add-on. With this add-on, I can do searches
like:
from:some_guy to:other_guy subject:topic1
and see only mails from some_guy sent to or cc other_guy under the
subject topic1.

some other time, I'm just using from:name subject:topic2 to search for
specific email subject coming from a specific person.

At the moment, evolution does not let me do this and forces me to
choose from a drop-down list with limited choice.

Is there some way to write such complex search phrase?

Note that it becomes much more critical when I do searches on my
localhost imap archive server, containing 15 to 25k messages per year.

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