Re: [Evolution] Changing subject lines of received emails - my changed email subject

2008-05-19 Thread Reid Thompson
Reid Thompson wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 23:15 +0100, andy wrote:
>> Is there someway that I (it'll be me doing the tweaking) can set 
>> Evolution up so that someone can edit the subject line of an email
>> they have received so that it can be stored in the inbox (wherever)
>> with the newly edited subject line?
> 
> The short answer is "No".  This kind of request comes up relatively
> regularly, in different contexts (some people want to edit subject
> lines, some people want to delete large attachments, etc.)
> 
> The reasons given by the Evo developers for not allowing this are
> twofold, as I understand it: first, just a general unhappiness that
> allowing email you receive to be edited is "not right".  Second, and
> more importantly IMO, is that Evo supports a large number of mail
> backends (POP, IMAP, Exchange/OWA, etc.) and most of those backends have
> no facility for allowing this.  In fact, the only one where it would be
> possible AFAIK is the local copy (typically POP or local mail spools).
> 
> Personally I would love to see this made available for those backends
> where it's possible, but the Evo developers would prefer to not support
> it (or, at least, they don't have the energy/time to work on it) if it
> can't be supported in most if not all backends.
> 
> 
> As a refugee from Emacs VM, which was hugely capable in many ways, I do
> miss the ability to delete attachments since it regularly happens that
> someone sends me a gigantic attachment of a core file or similar which
> is completely useless to me, but I do want to preserve the message
> (containing the backtrace for example).
> 
> However, so far this hasn't risen to the level of "can't live without"
> for me, at least.
> 
> 
> Anyway.  Maybe she would have better luck with Evolution's email label
> feature?  I've not used it myself but it sounds like something she could
> make use of.  The only problem is if she wants to have lots and lots of
> them created and deleted relatively quickly it might be a problem.
> Evo's interface to mail labels is not very "quick and easy".  It's more
> geared to "set up a bunch of static labels and reuse them".
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How about the following ...
Edit as new
Modify subject
save as draft
use draft copy as 'key' email
setup filter that can be run on Drafts folder to move 'key' email back to 
inbox, 
or setup a filter to move/copy ALL pertinent emails from Inbox/Drafts to a 
designated folder


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Re: [Evolution] Changing subject lines of received emails - my changed email subject

2008-05-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 19:41 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote:
> Reid Thompson wrote:

[...]

> > Anyway.  Maybe she would have better luck with Evolution's email label
> > feature?  I've not used it myself but it sounds like something she could
> > make use of.  The only problem is if she wants to have lots and lots of
> > them created and deleted relatively quickly it might be a problem.
> > Evo's interface to mail labels is not very "quick and easy".  It's more
> > geared to "set up a bunch of static labels and reuse them".
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> How about the following ...
> Edit as new
> Modify subject
> save as draft
> use draft copy as 'key' email
> setup filter that can be run on Drafts folder to move 'key' email back to 
> inbox, 
> or setup a filter to move/copy ALL pertinent emails from Inbox/Drafts to a 
> designated folder

Alternatively, set up virtual folders to classify the messages. This
won't change the Subject of course, but would help group related mails
together, and you could use the folder name as a hint. Not sure how this
would scale since it's still fairly manual.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Changing subject lines of received emails - my changed email subject

2008-05-20 Thread Reid Thompson
On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 19:41 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote:

> How about the following ...
> Edit as new
> Modify subject
> save as draft
> use draft copy as 'key' email
> setup filter that can be run on Drafts folder to move 'key' email back to 
> inbox, 
> or setup a filter to move/copy ALL pertinent emails from Inbox/Drafts to a 
> designated folder

Actually, you can configure the account to save Drafts in the Inbox, so
it appears that no filter would be required, just Edit as New Message
and then Save Draft.  
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Re: [Evolution] Changing subject lines of received emails - my changed email subject

2008-05-20 Thread Pete Biggs

> 
> > > Anyway.  Maybe she would have better luck with Evolution's email label
> > > feature?  I've not used it myself but it sounds like something she could
> > > make use of.  The only problem is if she wants to have lots and lots of
> > > them created and deleted relatively quickly it might be a problem.
> > > Evo's interface to mail labels is not very "quick and easy".  It's more
> > > geared to "set up a bunch of static labels and reuse them".
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> > > 
> > How about the following ...
> > Edit as new
> > Modify subject
> > save as draft
> > use draft copy as 'key' email
> > setup filter that can be run on Drafts folder to move 'key' email back to 
> > inbox, 
> > or setup a filter to move/copy ALL pertinent emails from Inbox/Drafts to a 
> > designated folder
> 
> Alternatively, set up virtual folders to classify the messages. This
> won't change the Subject of course, but would help group related mails
> together, and you could use the folder name as a hint. Not sure how this
> would scale since it's still fairly manual.
> 

Or what about 'redirect'ing the mail to yourself i.e. 

  Message -> Forward As -> Redirect

Then fill in your own address as the To: and change the subject line to
whatever you want.  This will cause a new message to be created (which
is the only way of doing what you want), but will retain the rest of the
email intact.

This would also be a way of dealing with removing attachments.

Pete

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Re: [Evolution] Changing subject lines of received emails - my changed email subject

2008-05-20 Thread Reid Thompson
On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 12:20 +, Pete Biggs wrote:

> 
> Or what about 'redirect'ing the mail to yourself i.e. 
> 
>   Message -> Forward As -> Redirect
> 
> Then fill in your own address as the To: and change the subject line to
> whatever you want.  This will cause a new message to be created (which
> is the only way of doing what you want), but will retain the rest of the
> email intact.
> 
> This would also be a way of dealing with removing attachments.
> 
> Pete

Edit as New Message, Save Draft does create a 'new' message -- it's
essentially a copy with modifications.  The Message-id is changed
i.e. the message id from your email
Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Edit as New Message, Save Draft

the message id from the Draft
Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

and placing both emails in the same folder with threading on, lists the
draft as a thread child to your email
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Re: [Evolution] Changing subject lines of received emails - my changed email subject

2008-05-20 Thread andy

Reid Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 12:20 +, Pete Biggs wrote:

  
Or what about 'redirect'ing the mail to yourself i.e. 


  Message -> Forward As -> Redirect

Then fill in your own address as the To: and change the subject line to
whatever you want.  This will cause a new message to be created (which
is the only way of doing what you want), but will retain the rest of the
email intact.

This would also be a way of dealing with removing attachments.

Pete



Edit as New Message, Save Draft does create a 'new' message -- it's
essentially a copy with modifications.  The Message-id is changed
i.e. the message id from your email
Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Edit as New Message, Save Draft

the message id from the Draft
Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

and placing both emails in the same folder with threading on, lists the
draft as a thread child to your email
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Dear Paul, Reid, Patrick & Pete

First off, thank you very much for all of your replies and suggestions. 
Those are all very much appreciated and there are a number of pretty 
decent workarounds contained therein.


My wife has seemingly stumbled on a fix that she feels comfortable with 
which is a variation of something already suggested: she will merely 
forward these emails to herself with the subject line she wants that 
will be meaningful to her and delete the original. It's a bit of a pain, 
but I will monitor some of those emails and see if there is some way 
that I can (semi-)automate this process - e.g. when an email from 
Companies House arrives, set a rule to forward it to her email address 
and so it will pop-up waiting for a new subject line.


Once again, thank you so much from both of us!

You're a good crowd.

All the best

Andy

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