Re: [Evolution] How can I override the IMAP path?
Hi again, > Aha, it might be one of those archive-related folders from here [1]. > The evolution-ews can open any folder, it only needs to know the folder > ID. This could be used to open it as "Subscribe to folder of other > user", which is not exactly the same thing, but it would work. I just > made a change in evolution-ews [2] (for 3.35.90+) to allow using > distinguished folder names there. My server doesn't have enabled > archive folders, thus I do not know whether it would work for you. In > any case, it's rather a workaround. This worked. I can now access my archive. Thanks for that, I'll try it out now to see how it works out. Regarding imapx and namespace I will report a bug as soon as I have time. Best denk > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 at 10:18 AM > From: "Milan Crha via evolution-list" > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Evolution] How can I override the IMAP path? > > On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 08:27 +0100, abc abc wrote: > > I did the same you did yesterday and did it again now. However, in my > > log there is no occurrence of "NAMESPACE". > > Hi, > it can be the DAVMail doesn't support NAMESPACE capability. I'd expect > it works in Evolution even without it, but maybe not. > > > In my case it is davmail, which I want to use to get access to my > > Exchange Archive - the only clients I know of being able to do that > > are Outlook, OWA and davmail. > > Aha, it might be one of those archive-related folders from here [1]. > The evolution-ews can open any folder, it only needs to know the folder > ID. This could be used to open it as "Subscribe to folder of other > user", which is not exactly the same thing, but it would work. I just > made a change in evolution-ews [2] (for 3.35.90+) to allow using > distinguished folder names there. My server doesn't have enabled > archive folders, thus I do not know whether it would work for you. In > any case, it's rather a workaround. > > I think it might be interesting to have an option to enable/disable > certain distinguished folders to be shown beside other folders, > possibly a set of checkboxes in the Mail account Properties would do > it, thus, if you can, feel free to file a bug against > evolution-ews [3] to add such thing. Maybe other users would benefit > from it too. > > > Overriding the IMAP path works with /archive in Thunderbird and Nine > > on Android via davmail. > > Weird, I'm wondering what Evolution can do differently. Maybe it's a > bug in the IMAPx code (which resides in evolution-data-server, not in > evolution itself), when the NAMESPACE capability is not supported by > the IMAP server. Feel free to file a bug [4], thus someone can look on > it. > Thanks and bye, > Milan > > [1] > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/client-developer/web-service-reference/distinguishedfolderid > [2] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-ews/commit/373e3dbb > [3] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-ews/issues/new > [4] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-data-server/issues/new > > > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How can I override the IMAP path?
On Fri, 2020-01-17 at 08:27 +0100, abc abc wrote: > I did the same you did yesterday and did it again now. However, in my > log there is no occurrence of "NAMESPACE". Hi, it can be the DAVMail doesn't support NAMESPACE capability. I'd expect it works in Evolution even without it, but maybe not. > In my case it is davmail, which I want to use to get access to my > Exchange Archive - the only clients I know of being able to do that > are Outlook, OWA and davmail. Aha, it might be one of those archive-related folders from here [1]. The evolution-ews can open any folder, it only needs to know the folder ID. This could be used to open it as "Subscribe to folder of other user", which is not exactly the same thing, but it would work. I just made a change in evolution-ews [2] (for 3.35.90+) to allow using distinguished folder names there. My server doesn't have enabled archive folders, thus I do not know whether it would work for you. In any case, it's rather a workaround. I think it might be interesting to have an option to enable/disable certain distinguished folders to be shown beside other folders, possibly a set of checkboxes in the Mail account Properties would do it, thus, if you can, feel free to file a bug against evolution-ews [3] to add such thing. Maybe other users would benefit from it too. > Overriding the IMAP path works with /archive in Thunderbird and Nine > on Android via davmail. Weird, I'm wondering what Evolution can do differently. Maybe it's a bug in the IMAPx code (which resides in evolution-data-server, not in evolution itself), when the NAMESPACE capability is not supported by the IMAP server. Feel free to file a bug [4], thus someone can look on it. Thanks and bye, Milan [1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/client-developer/web-service-reference/distinguishedfolderid [2] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-ews/commit/373e3dbb [3] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-ews/issues/new [4] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-data-server/issues/new ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How can I override the IMAP path?
Hi,
I did the same you did yesterday and did it again now. However, in my log there
is no occurrence of "NAMESPACE". In my case it is davmail, which I want to use
to get access to my Exchange Archive - the only clients I know of being able to
do that are Outlook, OWA and davmail. Overriding the IMAP path works with
/archive in Thunderbird and Nine on Android via davmail.
> Does the namespace usage hide all but the Inbox folder, or you still
> see all folders from the top level? If I understood it correctly, then
> you want to have Inbox hidden (which is not possible, as stated above),
> but maybe I'm wrong.
When Namespace is set, I can still see all of my folders in Evolution. Whatever
I set in Namespace, even garbage and obviously wrong things, I always see the
same list of folders after the restart.
Best
denk
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 at 10:04 AM
> From: "Milan Crha via evolution-list"
> To: evolution-list@gnome.org
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] How can I override the IMAP path?
>
> On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 00:51 +0100, abc abc wrote:
> > I still see the usual INBOX
>
> Hi,
> if I recall correctly, then the INBOX is a very special folder on an
> IMAP server, it's supposed to be always available.
>
> > Is there anything else I could try?
>
> I tried it here. When I run Evolution with CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io, then I
> see that my IMAP server (Dovecot, if it matters) returns:
>
>[imapx:A] I/O: 'A3 NAMESPACE'
>[imapx:A] I/O: '* NAMESPACE (("" ".")) NIL NIL
>A3 OK Namespace completed (0.001 + 0.000 secs).'
>
> which means the empty namespace's directory separator is a dot. It is
> also confirmed with a LIST request:
>
> [imapx:A] I/O: 'A9 LIST "" "*" RETURN (CHILDREN SUBSCRIBED)'
> [imapx:A] I/O: '* LIST (\Subscribed \HasChildren \UnMarked) "." for-offline
>
> by the "." just before the "for-offline" text (it's a folder name on
> the server).
>
> Then I closed Evolution and edited corresponding .source file for this
> IMAP account with:
>
>Namespace=for-offline.
>UseNamespace=true
>
> (note of the "." at the end of the Namespace key).
>
> When I start Evolution, after saving my changes, I see this in the log:
>
>[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00016 LIST "" "for-offline.*" RETURN (CHILDREN...)'
>[imapx:A] I/O: 'A00017 LIST "" for-offline RETURN (...)'
>
> where the first searches for subfolders of the "for-offline" folder.
> There is a runtime warning shown on the evolution console:
>
>> No matching namespace for "." for-offline
>
> but I ignore it for now. The GUI shows limited set of folders now,
> specifically:
>
>Inbox
>for-offline
> sub
>Junk
>Trash
>
> I have created many more folders at the top level, which are hidden
> now. After this I close Evolution and edit the corresponding .source
> file and set
>
>UseNamespace=false
>
> and when I save it and run Evolution again I see full folder structure
> as before.
>
> This is with the current development version, but it should be quite
> the same as with 3.34.x, as far as I know.
>
> Does the namespace usage hide all but the Inbox folder, or you still
> see all folders from the top level? If I understood it correctly, then
> you want to have Inbox hidden (which is not possible, as stated above),
> but maybe I'm wrong.
>
> Bye,
> Milan
>
> P.S.: by the way, your reply didn't go under the original thread. It
> seems your mail client doesn't preserve threading headers, or you used
> some odd function to "reply" to the mesasge. In Evolution, you can
> Reply To List (Ctrl+L) to Mailing List messages like those you receive
> here (if not referenced directly by the sender, which I did not do in
> this specific message).
>
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Re: [Evolution] How can I override the IMAP path?
On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 00:51 +0100, abc abc wrote:
> I still see the usual INBOX
Hi,
if I recall correctly, then the INBOX is a very special folder on an
IMAP server, it's supposed to be always available.
> Is there anything else I could try?
I tried it here. When I run Evolution with CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io, then I
see that my IMAP server (Dovecot, if it matters) returns:
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A3 NAMESPACE'
[imapx:A] I/O: '* NAMESPACE (("" ".")) NIL NIL
A3 OK Namespace completed (0.001 + 0.000 secs).'
which means the empty namespace's directory separator is a dot. It is
also confirmed with a LIST request:
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A9 LIST "" "*" RETURN (CHILDREN SUBSCRIBED)'
[imapx:A] I/O: '* LIST (\Subscribed \HasChildren \UnMarked) "." for-offline
by the "." just before the "for-offline" text (it's a folder name on
the server).
Then I closed Evolution and edited corresponding .source file for this
IMAP account with:
Namespace=for-offline.
UseNamespace=true
(note of the "." at the end of the Namespace key).
When I start Evolution, after saving my changes, I see this in the log:
[imapx:B] I/O: 'B00016 LIST "" "for-offline.*" RETURN (CHILDREN...)'
[imapx:A] I/O: 'A00017 LIST "" for-offline RETURN (...)'
where the first searches for subfolders of the "for-offline" folder.
There is a runtime warning shown on the evolution console:
> No matching namespace for "." for-offline
but I ignore it for now. The GUI shows limited set of folders now,
specifically:
Inbox
for-offline
sub
Junk
Trash
I have created many more folders at the top level, which are hidden
now. After this I close Evolution and edit the corresponding .source
file and set
UseNamespace=false
and when I save it and run Evolution again I see full folder structure
as before.
This is with the current development version, but it should be quite
the same as with 3.34.x, as far as I know.
Does the namespace usage hide all but the Inbox folder, or you still
see all folders from the top level? If I understood it correctly, then
you want to have Inbox hidden (which is not possible, as stated above),
but maybe I'm wrong.
Bye,
Milan
P.S.: by the way, your reply didn't go under the original thread. It
seems your mail client doesn't preserve threading headers, or you used
some odd function to "reply" to the mesasge. In Evolution, you can
Reply To List (Ctrl+L) to Mailing List messages like those you receive
here (if not referenced directly by the sender, which I did not do in
this specific message).
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Re: [Evolution] How can I override the IMAP path?
>Please note that HTML mail should not be used on this list unless there >is also a plain-text version of the message. > >poc Hi poc, thanks for the hint. I will send plain text mails now. Sorry. Best denk ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How can I override the IMAP path?
>>On Tue, 2020-01-14 at 19:33 +0100, abc abc wrote: >>I have to set two settings in the respective source file under >>~/.config/evolution/sources: >>Namespace=IMAP path (in my case I need /archive which works with >>other IMAP clients) >>UseNamespace=true >> >>Is there anything else I have to configure to get that working? >Hi, >yes, that should work. The question is about directory separator, >because many servers use a dot (.) not forward slash (/). Try to run >Evolution with IMAPx debugging to see what namespaces the server >returns and what it does in general: > > $ CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io evolution > >In other words, it may depend how you specify the Namespace path. I do >not recall what is expected there, it can be the directory separator >should be at the end, not at the start of it. >Bye, >Milan Hi Milan, thanks for your answer. Unfortunately, whatever I try (/archive, /archive/, archive/, .archive, .archive., archive.) nothing changes and I still see the usual INBOX. Also in the debug output, there is nothing mentioned regarding namespaces and even the string archive doesn't show up in the log. Is there anything else I could try? Thanks and best denk ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How can I override the IMAP path?
On Tue, 2020-01-14 at 19:33 +0100, abc abc wrote: > Hi, > > currently I am trying out evolution, especially its IMAP implementation and > capabilities. [...] Please note that HTML mail should not be used on this list unless there is also a plain-text version of the message. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How can I override the IMAP path?
On Tue, 2020-01-14 at 19:33 +0100, abc abc wrote: > I have to set two settings in the respective source file under > ~/.config/evolution/sources: > Namespace=IMAP path (in my case I need /archive which works with > other IMAP clients) > UseNamespace=true > > Is there anything else I have to configure to get that working? Hi, yes, that should work. The question is about directory separator, because many servers use a dot (.) not forward slash (/). Try to run Evolution with IMAPx debugging to see what namespaces the server returns and what it does in general: $ CAMEL_DEBUG=imapx:io evolution In other words, it may depend how you specify the Namespace path. I do not recall what is expected there, it can be the directory separator should be at the end, not at the start of it. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] How can I override the IMAP path?
Hi, currently I am trying out evolution, especially its IMAP implementation and capabilities. What I cannot get to work is overriding the IMAP path. As far as I understood, I have to set two settings in the respective source file under ~/.config/evolution/sources: Namespace=IMAP path (in my case I need /archive which works with other IMAP clients) UseNamespace=true Is there anything else I have to configure to get that working? Do you need further info? I am using evolution 3.34.3 under Arch Linux. Thank you very much and best denk ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
