Re: [Evolution] No Matter What I Try, Can't Move Thunderbird Archives to Evo
On 2019-02-20 at 03:05 +, Bill and Carol Yager wrote: > Tried Milan's suggestion about using the "Standard Unix mbox spool > directory". This did allow me to get my hierarchy of saved folders > over to Evolution. However, each folder and subfolder name now > has .sbd added to it. The name can't be modified and the error > message says that the file doesn't exist. Also the folder can't be > deleted because they are spool files. I have now spent just too much > time on this. Too bad, I liked Evolution, but it just doesn't handle > the importing of saved email folders from other mail clients. Until > that is available, the program is not usable for us. Thanks for the > help though. > > > Bill The problem is that in this format each folder with emails is stored as a mbox file. And each folder that itself contains subfodler is stored as a filesystem folder. Since you can't have both a file and a folder with the same name, this doesn't allow you to store emails on non-leaf folders. Thunderbird works around this by adding a .sdb suffix to those filesystem folders. If you don't store mail on non-leaf folders, it's trivial to remove those .sdb suffixes. Else, you will need to use a different store format, like maildir. It's easy to convert from this to maildir, but it's not as immediate, as there is an extra step. Best regards ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] No Matter What I Try, Can't Move Thunderbird Archives to Evo
There are multiple command line applications that will convert mbox to maildir. You can write a script to make a copy of your mbox files in a working area and convert the messages in the copy(ies) to maildir format in a location of your choice to be imported into evo. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d=convert+mbox+to+maildir reid On Mon, 2019-02-18 at 00:54 +, Bill and Carol Yager wrote: > [EXTERNAL SOURCE] > > My Evo version is: 3.30.1and I am set up for POP3 using ATT.com > serrver > > I have many, many saved emails organized in hundreds of sub-folder > hierarchies in Thunderbird 60.4.0. I believe the Thunderbird formt is Mbox > while the Evo system is using Maildir. > > For two weeks I have been trying Evolution and really like the UI, but I have > been unsuccessful in migrating the Thunderbird emails to Evolution. There > are far too many to use the GUI within Evo > which only appears to move one file at a time. Also, I have searched these > mailing list archives for solutions and have tried them. No luck. > > I have tried two methods: > > 1. Copied the Saved_Mail.sbd folder (my top-level saved mail folder) from > Thunderbird > > Home\thunderbird\xx.default\Mail\Local Folders\Saved_Mail.sbd > >into the Evolution "local" folder resulting in > > Home\.local\share\evolution\mail\local\Saved Mail.sbc > > 2. Created a folder "Saved_Mail" using the Evolution GUI and then copied the > contents of the Thunderbird "Saved Mail.sbd" over to the Evolution > "Saved_Mail" folder. In addition to the copied > files, I see the "cur", "new" and "tmp" files in the Evo "Saved_Mail" folder, > indicating the Maildir structure. > > Some people have mentioned that the file to copy over is the file within the > Thunderbird "Saved Mail.sbd" folder that doesn't have any extension; "Saved > Mail. " in my case. But, this file is empty > (size = 0)?? > > What am I doing wrong? Other people have mentioned that they have > successfully moved a folder hierarchy over to Evolution. Is it because Evo > is now using a different email method than Thunderbird > (maildir vs mbox)? If so, how do I compensate for this? > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. Really want to move from TB to Evo. > > Thanks, > Bill > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mail.gnome.org_mailman_listinfo_evolution-2Dlist=DwICAg=w8fEmIi-B5lsC0MnOiGTloUx5YmN70-3jVCmqqbXNxM=4r1gVE34nFB7YgioINuzq1cdGrlIBszDh26sKYP7ux8=EEjVQELw_LVHQjZ5heUa9WAx0KwV1haPpo7_NVx-0Jo=a4bcRX4YMcX88FXx8WpD6wu5F0MBBKdJqVPM9OJhK7M= ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] No Matter What I Try, Can't Move Thunderbird Archives to Evo
Tried Milan's suggestion about using the "Standard Unix mbox spool directory". This did allow me to get my hierarchy of saved folders over to Evolution. However, each folder and subfolder name now has .sbd added to it. The name can't be modified and the error message says that the file doesn't exist. Also the folder can't be deleted because they are spool files. I have now spent just too much time on this. Too bad, I liked Evolution, but it just doesn't handle the importing of saved email folders from other mail clients. Until that is available, the program is not usable for us. Thanks for the help though. Bill___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] No Matter What I Try, Can't Move Thunderbird Archives to Evo
There is an extension which I once used, and seems to still be compatible with TB 60, called "Import/Export Tools". The developer's website for this tool is https://freeshell.de/~kaosmos/mboximport-en.html and it's also on the TB AddOns site. I won't reproduce the list of what this does here (see URL above), but am simply mentioning it to see if any of its export features would help in any way. Ed On 2/18/19 10:10 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2019-02-18 at 14:33 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: On Mon, 2019-02-18 at 00:54 +, Bill and Carol Yager wrote: Is it because Evo is now using a different email method than Thunderbird (maildir vs mbox)? Hi, yes, I believe the old methods do not work, because of the different formats. I would try: a) copy Thunderbird MBOX files into a new directory (you can do it directly in the Thunderbird directory too, but better to have backups and keep private Thunderbird files to Thunderbird only); b) in Evolution's menu: File->New->Mail Account, enter some fake email address, disable Lookup (at the bottom), then click Next and pick type "Standard Unix mbox spool directory" and point it to the directory you copied Thunderbird files to; continue the wizard with None sending type and that's it. c) once you finish the new account wizard you should see your folder structure from Thunderbird (as copied to the new location) in Evolution and you either can use it as is, or copy it into On This Computer. This is untested, I just think that it should work. Always make backups of your data before any such change, because you are playing with internal files of respective application(s). The way to avoid having to do this is of course to use IMAP rather than POP. I realise this isn't helpful in the present case (though of course the OP could also convert his accounts to IMAP and upload the mail from Thunderbird) but it's worth bearing in mind. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Linux Mint 19.1 Tessa Cinnamon 4.0.9 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] No Matter What I Try, Can't Move Thunderbird Archives to Evo
On Mon, 2019-02-18 at 14:33 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2019-02-18 at 00:54 +, Bill and Carol Yager wrote: > > Is it because Evo is now using a different email method than > > Thunderbird (maildir vs mbox)? > > Hi, > yes, I believe the old methods do not work, because of the different > formats. I would try: > a) copy Thunderbird MBOX files into a new directory (you can do it >directly in the Thunderbird directory too, but better to have >backups and keep private Thunderbird files to Thunderbird only); > b) in Evolution's menu: File->New->Mail Account, enter some fake email >address, disable Lookup (at the bottom), then click Next and pick >type "Standard Unix mbox spool directory" and point it to the >directory you copied Thunderbird files to; continue the wizard with >None sending type and that's it. > c) once you finish the new account wizard you should see your folder >structure from Thunderbird (as copied to the new location) in >Evolution and you either can use it as is, or copy it into On This >Computer. > > This is untested, I just think that it should work. Always make backups > of your data before any such change, because you are playing with > internal files of respective application(s). The way to avoid having to do this is of course to use IMAP rather than POP. I realise this isn't helpful in the present case (though of course the OP could also convert his accounts to IMAP and upload the mail from Thunderbird) but it's worth bearing in mind. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] No Matter What I Try, Can't Move Thunderbird Archives to Evo
On Mon, 2019-02-18 at 00:54 +, Bill and Carol Yager wrote: > Is it because Evo is now using a different email method than > Thunderbird (maildir vs mbox)? Hi, yes, I believe the old methods do not work, because of the different formats. I would try: a) copy Thunderbird MBOX files into a new directory (you can do it directly in the Thunderbird directory too, but better to have backups and keep private Thunderbird files to Thunderbird only); b) in Evolution's menu: File->New->Mail Account, enter some fake email address, disable Lookup (at the bottom), then click Next and pick type "Standard Unix mbox spool directory" and point it to the directory you copied Thunderbird files to; continue the wizard with None sending type and that's it. c) once you finish the new account wizard you should see your folder structure from Thunderbird (as copied to the new location) in Evolution and you either can use it as is, or copy it into On This Computer. This is untested, I just think that it should work. Always make backups of your data before any such change, because you are playing with internal files of respective application(s). Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] No Matter What I Try, Can't Move Thunderbird Archives to Evo
-- Original Message -- From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" To: evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: 2/18/2019 1:59:01 AM Subject: Re: [Evolution] No Matter What I Try, Can't Move Thunderbird Archives to Evo On Mon, 2019-02-18 at 00:54 +, Bill and Carol Yager wrote: Home\thunderbird\xx.default\Mail\Local Folders\Saved_Mail.sbd Sorry, but I have to ask: are those the actual pathnames, including 'Home' and the '\' characters? Because if they are it looks like you're using Windows. poc Sorry, me bad. Must be the 38 years off DOS and Windows and my aging brain. The paths should be: ~/.thunderbird/xx.default/Mail/Local Folders/Saved Mail.sbd and ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/Saved Mail.sbd ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] No Matter What I Try, Can't Move Thunderbird Archives to Evo
On Mon, 2019-02-18 at 00:54 +, Bill and Carol Yager wrote: > Home\thunderbird\xx.default\Mail\Local Folders\Saved_Mail.sbd Sorry, but I have to ask: are those the actual pathnames, including 'Home' and the '\' characters? Because if they are it looks like you're using Windows. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] No Matter What I Try, Can't Move Thunderbird Archives to Evo
On Mon, 2019-02-18 at 00:54 +, Bill and Carol Yager wrote: > My Evo version is: 3.30.1and I am set up for POP3 using > ATT.com serrver > > I have many, many saved emails organized in hundreds of sub-folder > hierarchies in Thunderbird 60.4.0. I believe the Thunderbird formt > is Mbox while the Evo system is using Maildir. > > For two weeks I have been trying Evolution and really like the UI, > but I have been unsuccessful in migrating the Thunderbird emails to > Evolution. There are far too many to use the GUI within Evo which > only appears to move one file at a time. Also, I have searched these > mailing list archives for solutions and have tried them. No luck. > > I have tried two methods: > > 1. Copied the Saved_Mail.sbd folder (my top-level saved mail folder) > from Thunderbird > > Home\thunderbird\xx.default\Mail\Local Folders\Saved_Mail.sbd > >into the Evolution "local" folder resulting in > > Home\.local\share\evolution\mail\local\Saved Mail.sbc > > 2. Created a folder "Saved_Mail" using the Evolution GUI and then > copied the contents of the Thunderbird "Saved Mail.sbd" over to the > Evolution "Saved_Mail" folder. In addition to the copied files, I see > the "cur", "new" and "tmp" files in the Evo "Saved_Mail" folder, > indicating the Maildir structure. How did you come up with these two methods? Have you tried following https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/import-apps-mozilla.html ? That could be outdated though so I'd be interested in updating it... > Some people have mentioned that the file to copy over is the > file within the Thunderbird "Saved Mail.sbd" folder that doesn't have > any extension; "Saved Mail. " in my case. But, this file is empty > (size = 0)?? > > What am I doing wrong? Other people have mentioned that they have > successfully moved a folder hierarchy over to Evolution. Is it > because Evo is now using a different email method than Thunderbird > (maildir vs mbox)? If so, how do I compensate for this? > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. Really want to move from TB to > Evo. -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] No Matter What I Try, Can't Move Thunderbird Archives to Evo
My Evo version is: 3.30.1and I am set up for POP3 using ATT.com serrver I have many, many saved emails organized in hundreds of sub-folder hierarchies in Thunderbird 60.4.0. I believe the Thunderbird formt is Mbox while the Evo system is using Maildir. For two weeks I have been trying Evolution and really like the UI, but I have been unsuccessful in migrating the Thunderbird emails to Evolution. There are far too many to use the GUI within Evo which only appears to move one file at a time. Also, I have searched these mailing list archives for solutions and have tried them. No luck. I have tried two methods: 1. Copied the Saved_Mail.sbd folder (my top-level saved mail folder) from Thunderbird Home\thunderbird\xx.default\Mail\Local Folders\Saved_Mail.sbd into the Evolution "local" folder resulting in Home\.local\share\evolution\mail\local\Saved Mail.sbc 2. Created a folder "Saved_Mail" using the Evolution GUI and then copied the contents of the Thunderbird "Saved Mail.sbd" over to the Evolution "Saved_Mail" folder. In addition to the copied files, I see the "cur", "new" and "tmp" files in the Evo "Saved_Mail" folder, indicating the Maildir structure. Some people have mentioned that the file to copy over is the file within the Thunderbird "Saved Mail.sbd" folder that doesn't have any extension; "Saved Mail. " in my case. But, this file is empty (size = 0)?? What am I doing wrong? Other people have mentioned that they have successfully moved a folder hierarchy over to Evolution. Is it because Evo is now using a different email method than Thunderbird (maildir vs mbox)? If so, how do I compensate for this? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Really want to move from TB to Evo. Thanks, Bill___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
