Re: [Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin

2014-05-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I just marked it as affecting me too.  I've not even tried to use it but
i'd like to see Evo working well in Ubuntu and i don't have skills to
really do anything about that.  I hope my vote helps even if it's only a
little.
Regards from
Tom :)


On 6 May 2014 16:23, Paul Smith p...@mad-scientist.net wrote:


 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1247366

 If you're an Evolution user on Ubuntu (and you care about this support)
 please mark this bug as affecting you so it might get some attention.

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Re: [Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin

2014-05-06 Thread Nicol Hermann
Hello Ralf,

thanks for your mail.
I checked the settings dialog but do not have such an option. Stange.
Is it probably language depended? I am using a German language settings.

Thanks
Nicol


Am Montag, den 05.05.2014, 20:14 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
 I'm using 3.10.4 on Arch Linux. Both aren't listed by my Evolution's
 plugins too.
 
 If I go to   Edit  Preferences  Mail Preferences  Junk   there's a
 box Junk filtering software where I can chose between Bogofilter and
 SpamAssassin. JFTR I selected Bogofilter and it works like a charm.
 
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Re: [Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin

2014-05-06 Thread Paul Smith
On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 20:34 +0200, Nicol Hermann wrote:
 Hello Ralf,
 
 thanks for your mail.
 I checked the settings dialog but do not have such an option. Stange.
 Is it probably language depended? I am using a German language settings.

I have the same situation; I'm using Ubuntu GNOME 14.04, which is
standard GNOME, not Unity etc., and provides Evolution 3.10.4.

However, my Mail Preferences Junk tab does not have a section for
Bogofilter options, or any kind of selector for choosing different junk
filtering software.

Is there some kind of build option for Evolution that might disable
support for Bogofilter?  Or some runtime option I need to select, or
package that I might need to install, before I can see it (I do have
bogofilter itself installed).

How does Evolution decide what junk filtering options to show in that
preferences dialog?

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Re: [Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin

2014-05-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 08:57 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
 On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 20:34 +0200, Nicol Hermann wrote:
  Hello Ralf,
  
  thanks for your mail.
  I checked the settings dialog but do not have such an option. Stange.
  Is it probably language depended? I am using a German language settings.
 
 I have the same situation; I'm using Ubuntu GNOME 14.04, which is
 standard GNOME, not Unity etc., and provides Evolution 3.10.4.
 
 However, my Mail Preferences Junk tab does not have a section for
 Bogofilter options, or any kind of selector for choosing different junk
 filtering software.
 
 Is there some kind of build option for Evolution that might disable
 support for Bogofilter?  Or some runtime option I need to select, or
 package that I might need to install, before I can see it (I do have
 bogofilter itself installed).
 
 How does Evolution decide what junk filtering options to show in that
 preferences dialog?

I've no idea how Ubuntu handles it, but in Fedora you have to install
the evolution-bogofilter package before the option appears (or
presumably evolution-spamassassin).

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin

2014-05-06 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 08:57 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
 Is there some kind of build option for Evolution that might disable
 support for Bogofilter?  Or some runtime option I need to select, or
 package that I might need to install, before I can see it (I do have
 bogofilter itself installed).
 
 How does Evolution decide what junk filtering options to show in that
 preferences dialog?

Since I wrote it...

Evolution checks for the bogofilter and spamassassin programs at build
time.  These dependencies are optional, but they have to be explicitly
disabled with configure options, otherwise the configure script fails.

--disable-bogofilter or --disable-spamassassin

Assuming they're both enabled, they're installed as extension modules
under $(libdir)/evolution/3.x/modules.  The extension modules register
themselves with Evolution upon loading, which is how they get listed in
Preferences.

Different distros package these modules differently.

Since they carry extra dependencies, in Fedora we split these modules
into subpackages: evolution-bogofilter and evolution-spamassassin.

In Debian, both bogofilter and spamassassin modules are included in the
libevolution package:

https://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/libevolution/filelist

However in Ubuntu, the libevolution package only includes the
spamassassin module:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/i386/libevolution/filelist

So Ubuntu is apparently disabling Bogofilter support in Evolution, even
though they do ship Bogofilter.  Worth a bug report.

Matthew Barnes


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Re: [Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin

2014-05-06 Thread Paul Smith
On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 09:32 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote:
 So Ubuntu is apparently disabling Bogofilter support in Evolution,
 even though they do ship Bogofilter.  Worth a bug report.

Unfortunately, I discovered one was already filed last year but no love:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1247366

If you're an Evolution user on Ubuntu (and you care about this support)
please mark this bug as affecting you so it might get some attention.

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Re: [Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin

2014-05-06 Thread Matthew Barnes
On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 11:23 -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
 Unfortunately, I discovered one was already filed last year but no love:
 
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1247366
 
 If you're an Evolution user on Ubuntu (and you care about this support)
 please mark this bug as affecting you so it might get some attention.

The Ubuntu changelog sheds some light...

evolution (3.10.1-2ubuntu1) trusty; urgency=low

  * Merge with Debian experimental, remaining changes:
   snipped 
- debian/rules, debian/control: Disable bogofilter and texthighlight
  support, since these packages are in universe. Swap evolution alternative
  Recommends to prefer spamassassin.

 -- Iain Lane iain.l...@canonical.com  Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:55:50 +

http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/e/evolution/evolution_3.10.4-0ubuntu1/changelog

Matthew Barnes

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Re: [Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin

2014-05-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 13:31 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote:
 Swap evolution alternative Recommends to prefer spamassassin.

On my Arch install I can chose between bogofilter and spamassasign. I've
got both installed and Evo 3.10.4 allows me to select one or the other.

I selected bogofilters and it works like a charm. However, if for Ubuntu
there should be no choice, why not testing, if spamassasign should do
the job?

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Re: [Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin

2014-05-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 20:02 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 13:31 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote:
  Swap evolution alternative Recommends to prefer spamassassin.
 
 On my Arch install I can chose between bogofilter and spamassasign. I've
 got both installed and Evo 3.10.4 allows me to select one or the other.
 
 I selected bogofilters and it works like a charm. However, if for Ubuntu
 there should be no choice, why not testing, if spamassasign should do
 the job?

Spamassassin will work but it's designed more for mail servers. IMHO
Bogofilter is more lightweight and easier to set up for mail clients
like Evo.

poc

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[Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin

2014-05-05 Thread Nicol Hermann
Hello list,

I am using evolution 3.10.4 on Ubuntu 14.04.
I am struggling with the setup of either bogofilter or spamassassin in
evolution.
Both are not listed in the plugin menu of evolution even if I think I
have installed all necessary (ubuntu) packages:
(https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToEnableSpamFilteringInEvolution)
evolution-plugins
evolution-plugins-experimental
spamassassin respectively bogofilter and bogofilter-common.
Can somebody please tell me how to get the evolution plugin menu entires
or if I have to setup them differently?

Thank you very much
Nicol



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Re: [Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin

2014-05-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I'm using 3.10.4 on Arch Linux. Both aren't listed by my Evolution's
plugins too.

If I go to   Edit  Preferences  Mail Preferences  Junk   there's a
box Junk filtering software where I can chose between Bogofilter and
SpamAssassin. JFTR I selected Bogofilter and it works like a charm.

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Re: [Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin

2014-05-05 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 19:47 +0200, Nicol Hermann wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 I am using evolution 3.10.4 on Ubuntu 14.04.
 I am struggling with the setup of either bogofilter or spamassassin in
 evolution.
 Both are not listed in the plugin menu of evolution even if I think I
 have installed all necessary (ubuntu) packages:
 (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToEnableSpamFilteringInEvolution)
 evolution-plugins
 evolution-plugins-experimental
 spamassassin respectively bogofilter and bogofilter-common.
 Can somebody please tell me how to get the evolution plugin menu entires
 or if I have to setup them differently?

https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/3.10/mail-spam-settings.html

andre
-- 
Andre Klapper  |  ak...@gmx.net
http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/

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Re: [Evolution] Setup bogofilter or spamassassin

2014-05-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-05-05 at 20:34 +0200, Nicol Hermann wrote:
 I checked the settings dialog but do not have such an option. Stange.
 Is it probably language depended? I am using a German language settings.

Hi Nicol,

I don't think so, unlikely that it depends to the used language. FWIW
I'm using English GUI settings.

Regards,
Ralf

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