Re: [Evolution] UI freezing
This happened to me again this a.m. After freezing a few times finally I had a deep freeze and the window never refreshed. I had to kill processes. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -a Linux radium.gaugetheory.org 2.6.20-1.2962.fc6 #1 SMP Tue Jun 19 19:27:14 EDT 2007 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 13:06 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 10:48 -0400, Daniel Gryniewicz wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 07:18 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > I'm pretty sure this didn't used to happen, but recently I've been > > > noticing the UI freezing for a few seconds quite regularly. It happens > > > while I'm composing a message, and also if I switch IMAP folders, often > > > when the "Storing ..." string appears on the lower edge status line. > > > > > > At first I thought it could be because my Drafts folder is remote, or > > > because I use a slow LDAP server, but turning off both these things made > > > no difference. > > > > > > Is there a problem with multi-threading or did I just not ntoice this > > > before? I'm currently on 2.10.3 under Fedora 7 with KDE 3.5.7. > > > > > > > This could be a kernel issue. There have been reports of I/O freezes > > under 2.6.20 and 2.6.21 kernels. Some of these are reported as fixed in > > 2.6.22 kernels. I've seen this too, but only when something else on the > > box is using a lot of I/O. > > I'm using the 2.6.22 kernel. Also, I haven't seen this except in Evo. > The UI freezes completely e.g. if I bury the window and raise it again > it won't even refresh, but I can switch to a different app or even a > different desktop and everything else works. Eventually Evo wakes up > again and I can continue until the next freeze. > > poc > > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Brian L Scipioni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] UI freezing
This seems to be exactly the behaviour I've seen, though I couldn't swear to the crash part as I tend to go off and do something else when the freeze happens. However my machine is a Core2Duo and nearly all my mail is on an IMAP server. F7, kernel kernel-2.6.22.1-41.fc7, Evo 2.10.3, Gnome 2.18. poc On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 15:16 -0400, Brian L Scipioni wrote: > The problem I reported earlier about deadlocking etc., had nothing to do > with freezing - but that also is a new phenomenon that has only been > happening to me recently. I'll be typing away in a new message and all > of a sudden no more characters and Everything freezes. Then after a > long time (15 seconds or so) all my buffered characters spit out. While > in a freeze, the window will move but not repaint. If I drag it around > a lot while it is frozen (trying to wake it up I suppose :-)), it will > crash. > > I've only seen this on my primary home computer, a dual AMD Opteron 252, > but never on my work computer, a Intel core2duo E6600. They have > identical software: FC6 with the 2.6.20-1.2962.fc6 kernel and Evo 2.8.3 > and the same other packages loaded. > > The only software difference is at work I exclusively use an IMAP > client, while at home I primarily use a POP3 client. That makes sense, > because I have a sneaking suspicion these locks and freezes are > associated with I/O. > > -- > Brian L Scipioni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 13:06 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 10:48 -0400, Daniel Gryniewicz wrote: > > > On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 07:18 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > I'm pretty sure this didn't used to happen, but recently I've been > > > > noticing the UI freezing for a few seconds quite regularly. It happens > > > > while I'm composing a message, and also if I switch IMAP folders, often > > > > when the "Storing ..." string appears on the lower edge status line. > > > > > > > > At first I thought it could be because my Drafts folder is remote, or > > > > because I use a slow LDAP server, but turning off both these things made > > > > no difference. > > > > > > > > Is there a problem with multi-threading or did I just not ntoice this > > > > before? I'm currently on 2.10.3 under Fedora 7 with KDE 3.5.7. > > > > > > > > > > This could be a kernel issue. There have been reports of I/O freezes > > > under 2.6.20 and 2.6.21 kernels. Some of these are reported as fixed in > > > 2.6.22 kernels. I've seen this too, but only when something else on the > > > box is using a lot of I/O. > > > > I'm using the 2.6.22 kernel. Also, I haven't seen this except in Evo. > > The UI freezes completely e.g. if I bury the window and raise it again > > it won't even refresh, but I can switch to a different app or even a > > different desktop and everything else works. Eventually Evo wakes up > > again and I can continue until the next freeze. > > > > poc > > > > ___ > > Evolution-list mailing list > > Evolution-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] UI freezing
On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 15:34 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 15:16 -0400, Brian L Scipioni wrote: > > The problem I reported earlier about deadlocking etc., had nothing to do > > with freezing - but that also is a new phenomenon that has only been > > happening to me recently. I'll be typing away in a new message and all > > of a sudden no more characters and Everything freezes. Then after a > > long time (15 seconds or so) all my buffered characters spit out. While > > in a freeze, the window will move but not repaint. If I drag it around > > a lot while it is frozen (trying to wake it up I suppose :-)), it will > > crash. > > > > I've only seen this on my primary home computer, a dual AMD Opteron 252, > > but never on my work computer, a Intel core2duo E6600. They have > > identical software: FC6 with the 2.6.20-1.2962.fc6 kernel and Evo 2.8.3 > > and the same other packages loaded. > > > > The only software difference is at work I exclusively use an IMAP > > client, while at home I primarily use a POP3 client. That makes sense, > > because I have a sneaking suspicion these locks and freezes are > > associated with I/O. I am running Intel Core2Due 1.6 FC7 and 2.11.4 however it was happening to me on FC6 as well for some time now. I've just been living with it. What happens in my case is I get the Freeze and sometimes in comes back and sometimes it "Passes Out" window greys out. I have to force quiet the application then restart it usually that works ok. I am using IMAP with all of my email accounts except one where I am using exchange. Occasionally I get this cycle where it passes out almost right away. I have to use the kill command and kill the evolution-data-server-1.12 evolution-exchange-storage evolution-alarm-notify and the client if its running or hung and restart evolution, then it starts up fast and everything is cool until it happens again. One thing I noticed by fluke, if I set both CPU's to 798 or just turn off on demand CPU the passing out happens less if at all. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] UI freezing
On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 15:16 -0400, Brian L Scipioni wrote: > The problem I reported earlier about deadlocking etc., had nothing to do > with freezing - but that also is a new phenomenon that has only been > happening to me recently. I'll be typing away in a new message and all > of a sudden no more characters and Everything freezes. Then after a > long time (15 seconds or so) all my buffered characters spit out. While > in a freeze, the window will move but not repaint. If I drag it around > a lot while it is frozen (trying to wake it up I suppose :-)), it will > crash. > > I've only seen this on my primary home computer, a dual AMD Opteron 252, > but never on my work computer, a Intel core2duo E6600. They have > identical software: FC6 with the 2.6.20-1.2962.fc6 kernel and Evo 2.8.3 > and the same other packages loaded. > > The only software difference is at work I exclusively use an IMAP > client, while at home I primarily use a POP3 client. That makes sense, > because I have a sneaking suspicion these locks and freezes are > associated with I/O. > > -- > Brian L Scipioni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 13:06 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 10:48 -0400, Daniel Gryniewicz wrote: > > > On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 07:18 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > I'm pretty sure this didn't used to happen, but recently I've been > > > > noticing the UI freezing for a few seconds quite regularly. It happens > > > > while I'm composing a message, and also if I switch IMAP folders, often > > > > when the "Storing ..." string appears on the lower edge status line. > > > > > > > > At first I thought it could be because my Drafts folder is remote, or > > > > because I use a slow LDAP server, but turning off both these things made > > > > no difference. > > > > > > > > Is there a problem with multi-threading or did I just not ntoice this > > > > before? I'm currently on 2.10.3 under Fedora 7 with KDE 3.5.7. > > > > > > > > > > This could be a kernel issue. There have been reports of I/O freezes > > > under 2.6.20 and 2.6.21 kernels. Some of these are reported as fixed in > > > 2.6.22 kernels. I've seen this too, but only when something else on the > > > box is using a lot of I/O. > > > > I'm using the 2.6.22 kernel. Also, I haven't seen this except in Evo. > > The UI freezes completely e.g. if I bury the window and raise it again > > it won't even refresh, but I can switch to a different app or even a > > different desktop and everything else works. Eventually Evo wakes up > > again and I can continue until the next freeze. > > > > poc > > > > ___ > > Evolution-list mailing list > > Evolution-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list I've seen this behavior also ( freezing while composing ) - although i've not correlated it with switching folders nor have I noticed the "Storing ..." string ( but I've not specifically watched for said string when it happens ) -- NOTE: composing just paused while typing in this email -- status line text changed too quickly for me to determine what it was stating. It seems to be occurring around freeze/thaw of folders If you start composing a message and vary holding down random keys you can see the input pause... [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~$ uname -a Linux jhereg 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux single core cpu UBUNTU 7.04 I have two accounts configured -- 1 pop account and 1 MS Exchange account. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] UI freezing
The problem I reported earlier about deadlocking etc., had nothing to do with freezing - but that also is a new phenomenon that has only been happening to me recently. I'll be typing away in a new message and all of a sudden no more characters and Everything freezes. Then after a long time (15 seconds or so) all my buffered characters spit out. While in a freeze, the window will move but not repaint. If I drag it around a lot while it is frozen (trying to wake it up I suppose :-)), it will crash. I've only seen this on my primary home computer, a dual AMD Opteron 252, but never on my work computer, a Intel core2duo E6600. They have identical software: FC6 with the 2.6.20-1.2962.fc6 kernel and Evo 2.8.3 and the same other packages loaded. The only software difference is at work I exclusively use an IMAP client, while at home I primarily use a POP3 client. That makes sense, because I have a sneaking suspicion these locks and freezes are associated with I/O. -- Brian L Scipioni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 13:06 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 10:48 -0400, Daniel Gryniewicz wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 07:18 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > I'm pretty sure this didn't used to happen, but recently I've been > > > noticing the UI freezing for a few seconds quite regularly. It happens > > > while I'm composing a message, and also if I switch IMAP folders, often > > > when the "Storing ..." string appears on the lower edge status line. > > > > > > At first I thought it could be because my Drafts folder is remote, or > > > because I use a slow LDAP server, but turning off both these things made > > > no difference. > > > > > > Is there a problem with multi-threading or did I just not ntoice this > > > before? I'm currently on 2.10.3 under Fedora 7 with KDE 3.5.7. > > > > > > > This could be a kernel issue. There have been reports of I/O freezes > > under 2.6.20 and 2.6.21 kernels. Some of these are reported as fixed in > > 2.6.22 kernels. I've seen this too, but only when something else on the > > box is using a lot of I/O. > > I'm using the 2.6.22 kernel. Also, I haven't seen this except in Evo. > The UI freezes completely e.g. if I bury the window and raise it again > it won't even refresh, but I can switch to a different app or even a > different desktop and everything else works. Eventually Evo wakes up > again and I can continue until the next freeze. > > poc > > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Brian L Scipioni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] UI freezing
On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 10:48 -0400, Daniel Gryniewicz wrote: > On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 07:18 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I'm pretty sure this didn't used to happen, but recently I've been > > noticing the UI freezing for a few seconds quite regularly. It happens > > while I'm composing a message, and also if I switch IMAP folders, often > > when the "Storing ..." string appears on the lower edge status line. > > > > At first I thought it could be because my Drafts folder is remote, or > > because I use a slow LDAP server, but turning off both these things made > > no difference. > > > > Is there a problem with multi-threading or did I just not ntoice this > > before? I'm currently on 2.10.3 under Fedora 7 with KDE 3.5.7. > > > > This could be a kernel issue. There have been reports of I/O freezes > under 2.6.20 and 2.6.21 kernels. Some of these are reported as fixed in > 2.6.22 kernels. I've seen this too, but only when something else on the > box is using a lot of I/O. I'm using the 2.6.22 kernel. Also, I haven't seen this except in Evo. The UI freezes completely e.g. if I bury the window and raise it again it won't even refresh, but I can switch to a different app or even a different desktop and everything else works. Eventually Evo wakes up again and I can continue until the next freeze. poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] UI freezing
On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 07:18 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I'm pretty sure this didn't used to happen, but recently I've been > noticing the UI freezing for a few seconds quite regularly. It happens > while I'm composing a message, and also if I switch IMAP folders, often > when the "Storing ..." string appears on the lower edge status line. > > At first I thought it could be because my Drafts folder is remote, or > because I use a slow LDAP server, but turning off both these things made > no difference. > > Is there a problem with multi-threading or did I just not ntoice this > before? I'm currently on 2.10.3 under Fedora 7 with KDE 3.5.7. > This could be a kernel issue. There have been reports of I/O freezes under 2.6.20 and 2.6.21 kernels. Some of these are reported as fixed in 2.6.22 kernels. I've seen this too, but only when something else on the box is using a lot of I/O. Daniel ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] UI freezing
I'm pretty sure this didn't used to happen, but recently I've been noticing the UI freezing for a few seconds quite regularly. It happens while I'm composing a message, and also if I switch IMAP folders, often when the "Storing ..." string appears on the lower edge status line. At first I thought it could be because my Drafts folder is remote, or because I use a slow LDAP server, but turning off both these things made no difference. Is there a problem with multi-threading or did I just not ntoice this before? I'm currently on 2.10.3 under Fedora 7 with KDE 3.5.7. poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
