Re: [Evolution] Changing subject lines of received emails - my changed email subject

2008-05-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 19:41 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote:
 Reid Thompson wrote:

[...]

  Anyway.  Maybe she would have better luck with Evolution's email label
  feature?  I've not used it myself but it sounds like something she could
  make use of.  The only problem is if she wants to have lots and lots of
  them created and deleted relatively quickly it might be a problem.
  Evo's interface to mail labels is not very quick and easy.  It's more
  geared to set up a bunch of static labels and reuse them.
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 How about the following ...
 Edit as new
 Modify subject
 save as draft
 use draft copy as 'key' email
 setup filter that can be run on Drafts folder to move 'key' email back to 
 inbox, 
 or setup a filter to move/copy ALL pertinent emails from Inbox/Drafts to a 
 designated folder

Alternatively, set up virtual folders to classify the messages. This
won't change the Subject of course, but would help group related mails
together, and you could use the folder name as a hint. Not sure how this
would scale since it's still fairly manual.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] Changing subject lines of received emails - my changed email subject

2008-05-20 Thread Reid Thompson
On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 19:41 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote:

 How about the following ...
 Edit as new
 Modify subject
 save as draft
 use draft copy as 'key' email
 setup filter that can be run on Drafts folder to move 'key' email back to 
 inbox, 
 or setup a filter to move/copy ALL pertinent emails from Inbox/Drafts to a 
 designated folder

Actually, you can configure the account to save Drafts in the Inbox, so
it appears that no filter would be required, just Edit as New Message
and then Save Draft.  
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Re: [Evolution] Changing subject lines of received emails - my changed email subject

2008-05-20 Thread Pete Biggs

 
   Anyway.  Maybe she would have better luck with Evolution's email label
   feature?  I've not used it myself but it sounds like something she could
   make use of.  The only problem is if she wants to have lots and lots of
   them created and deleted relatively quickly it might be a problem.
   Evo's interface to mail labels is not very quick and easy.  It's more
   geared to set up a bunch of static labels and reuse them.
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  How about the following ...
  Edit as new
  Modify subject
  save as draft
  use draft copy as 'key' email
  setup filter that can be run on Drafts folder to move 'key' email back to 
  inbox, 
  or setup a filter to move/copy ALL pertinent emails from Inbox/Drafts to a 
  designated folder
 
 Alternatively, set up virtual folders to classify the messages. This
 won't change the Subject of course, but would help group related mails
 together, and you could use the folder name as a hint. Not sure how this
 would scale since it's still fairly manual.
 

Or what about 'redirect'ing the mail to yourself i.e. 

  Message - Forward As - Redirect

Then fill in your own address as the To: and change the subject line to
whatever you want.  This will cause a new message to be created (which
is the only way of doing what you want), but will retain the rest of the
email intact.

This would also be a way of dealing with removing attachments.

Pete

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Re: [Evolution] Changing subject lines of received emails - my changed email subject

2008-05-20 Thread Reid Thompson
On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 12:20 +, Pete Biggs wrote:

 
 Or what about 'redirect'ing the mail to yourself i.e. 
 
   Message - Forward As - Redirect
 
 Then fill in your own address as the To: and change the subject line to
 whatever you want.  This will cause a new message to be created (which
 is the only way of doing what you want), but will retain the rest of the
 email intact.
 
 This would also be a way of dealing with removing attachments.
 
 Pete

Edit as New Message, Save Draft does create a 'new' message -- it's
essentially a copy with modifications.  The Message-id is changed
i.e. the message id from your email
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Edit as New Message, Save Draft

the message id from the Draft
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

and placing both emails in the same folder with threading on, lists the
draft as a thread child to your email
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Re: [Evolution] Changing subject lines of received emails - my changed email subject

2008-05-20 Thread andy

Reid Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 12:20 +, Pete Biggs wrote:

  
Or what about 'redirect'ing the mail to yourself i.e. 


  Message - Forward As - Redirect

Then fill in your own address as the To: and change the subject line to
whatever you want.  This will cause a new message to be created (which
is the only way of doing what you want), but will retain the rest of the
email intact.

This would also be a way of dealing with removing attachments.

Pete



Edit as New Message, Save Draft does create a 'new' message -- it's
essentially a copy with modifications.  The Message-id is changed
i.e. the message id from your email
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Edit as New Message, Save Draft

the message id from the Draft
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

and placing both emails in the same folder with threading on, lists the
draft as a thread child to your email
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Dear Paul, Reid, Patrick  Pete

First off, thank you very much for all of your replies and suggestions. 
Those are all very much appreciated and there are a number of pretty 
decent workarounds contained therein.


My wife has seemingly stumbled on a fix that she feels comfortable with 
which is a variation of something already suggested: she will merely 
forward these emails to herself with the subject line she wants that 
will be meaningful to her and delete the original. It's a bit of a pain, 
but I will monitor some of those emails and see if there is some way 
that I can (semi-)automate this process - e.g. when an email from 
Companies House arrives, set a rule to forward it to her email address 
and so it will pop-up waiting for a new subject line.


Once again, thank you so much from both of us!

You're a good crowd.

All the best

Andy

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Re: [Evolution] Changing subject lines of received emails - my changed email subject

2008-05-19 Thread Reid Thompson
Reid Thompson wrote:
 On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 23:15 +0100, andy wrote:
 Is there someway that I (it'll be me doing the tweaking) can set 
 Evolution up so that someone can edit the subject line of an email
 they have received so that it can be stored in the inbox (wherever)
 with the newly edited subject line?
 
 The short answer is No.  This kind of request comes up relatively
 regularly, in different contexts (some people want to edit subject
 lines, some people want to delete large attachments, etc.)
 
 The reasons given by the Evo developers for not allowing this are
 twofold, as I understand it: first, just a general unhappiness that
 allowing email you receive to be edited is not right.  Second, and
 more importantly IMO, is that Evo supports a large number of mail
 backends (POP, IMAP, Exchange/OWA, etc.) and most of those backends have
 no facility for allowing this.  In fact, the only one where it would be
 possible AFAIK is the local copy (typically POP or local mail spools).
 
 Personally I would love to see this made available for those backends
 where it's possible, but the Evo developers would prefer to not support
 it (or, at least, they don't have the energy/time to work on it) if it
 can't be supported in most if not all backends.
 
 
 As a refugee from Emacs VM, which was hugely capable in many ways, I do
 miss the ability to delete attachments since it regularly happens that
 someone sends me a gigantic attachment of a core file or similar which
 is completely useless to me, but I do want to preserve the message
 (containing the backtrace for example).
 
 However, so far this hasn't risen to the level of can't live without
 for me, at least.
 
 
 Anyway.  Maybe she would have better luck with Evolution's email label
 feature?  I've not used it myself but it sounds like something she could
 make use of.  The only problem is if she wants to have lots and lots of
 them created and deleted relatively quickly it might be a problem.
 Evo's interface to mail labels is not very quick and easy.  It's more
 geared to set up a bunch of static labels and reuse them.
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How about the following ...
Edit as new
Modify subject
save as draft
use draft copy as 'key' email
setup filter that can be run on Drafts folder to move 'key' email back to 
inbox, 
or setup a filter to move/copy ALL pertinent emails from Inbox/Drafts to a 
designated folder


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