RE: How do I change default Domain password when creating an acco unt with Exchange?

[Aret OZDEMIRCI]

It is related to the password policy that you configure for the domain. if
blank password is permitted, accounts created from exchange administrator
sets a blank password.
the identical password to the user is created when the minimum password
lenght is set on the domain. 

Aret


-Original Message-
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Sent: 17 Eylül 2001 Pazartesi 22:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do I change default Domain password when creating an
account with Exchange?


Is there another answer to this?  I'm curious because in my old environment
there were 2 methods for creating mailboxes and accounts.  On the central
domain, we used User Manager for Domains to create accounts and Exchange
Admin Tool for mailboxes (stupid secondary proxy addresses).  For trusted
domains, we used Exchange Admin tool from our desktops.  This made accounts
with passwords identical to the User ID.  For untrusted domains, we used
PCAnywhere and Exchange Admin Tool (on the Exchange server).  For some
domains this created a blank password, for others the password was identical
to the User ID (at least 4 chars - with trailing "x"s for IDs less than 4
chars).  I tried to figure out where this was configured, but couldn't find
it.  We didn't do anything that I'm aware of, and because I'm just anal when
it comes to work it really bugged me.

Eric

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:55:59 -0700, "Exchange Discussions"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Write your own account creation script that does it the way you want.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> All your base are belong to us.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Phil Labonte
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:18 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: How do I change default Domain password when creating an
> account with Exchange?
> 
> 
> I am using Exchange 5.5 SP4 and Windows NT4 SP6.
> 
> When I create a new user using the Exchange Administrator and I select a
> "New Windows NT Account" it creates the username on the domain with a
blank
> password.  I would like to change that.  Any thoughts?
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Help! Changing Company Name

[Calvin Fong]

Dear All,

We have an exchange 5.5 sp3 with NT4 Sp4 and the company name will change
soon. We want to send mail with new domain name and receive both in both
domain name. What i should do in the exchange?

Regards,

Calvin

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RE: disaster recovery practice?

[Great Cthulhu Jones]

You clever little nimrod... As I read this, I howled with unholy glee as I
thought, "Sounds like he had the recovery server on the network! HAW!"

Then came your last line. Whatta gem.

Anyway, Dave, no, you're not supposed to have the backup server on the
network when you do a recovery if the main server is still online and
functional.

I bet you can already look back on this and *laugh, laugh, laugh.* I know I
can.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stevens, Dave
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: disaster recovery practice?



Today, I decided to be a good exchange mail administrator and practice a
mailbox recovery using my recovery server.  I have already built the
recovery server, same SP's and fixes, did NOT join the site, but used same
names.  I have done this before with no problem.  I put the tape in,
catalog'd it, and then started the restore (by the way, following step by
step with the whitepaper!)however I soon started getting calls about a
mail problem.  It turns out all the services had stopped on the "real" mail
server, same one as the one I was doing the restore.  It turns out that
during the restore, the recovery server started writing Directory Service
transaction logs on the "real" server and this threw off the chronological
order of the logs which caused the services to fail..we ended up renaming
the logs to get them in order and everything is back up...
did I miss something or did someone fail to tell me that the recovery server
should not be on the network at the time of the restore?

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RE: Exchange server fails after restore

[Great Cthulhu Jones]

Prepare three envelopes... Ever hear that joke? It's a regular riot.

Could you start the Information Store prior to running the utilities?

Try again and make sure you spell everything right, case sensitivity and
all.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lucia Washaya
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange server fails after restore


Hello

My exchange server crashed. I built another one with the same and
organization and restored the exchange database from backup. Now the MTA
will not start. ISINTEG completes but ESUTIL hangs.

What should I do?

Thank You,

Lucia

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RE: IM

[Great Cthulhu Jones]

That first question is a rhetorical one, right?

Ironically, getting rid of the RVP record can often work wonders. Try that.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Bartley
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IM


Has anyone successfully got IM for E2k to consistently run without the
authentication failure problem? I've tried every KB article I could find
on it and nothing seems to keep it consistently working.

E2k, SP1, Win2k AS, SP2. Nothing else on the box, not a domain
controller. Have the resource record. Tried host header change, alias.
Can't seem to get it to consistently work. Client is the SP1 3.5
version. No other version installed over it.

TIA for any thoughts.

Best Regards,

Dan Bartley


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RE: Outlook Calendar

[Great Cthulhu Jones]

Then check to see if there is more than one server in the site with a copy
of the Sched+ Free/Busy folder on it, if you're using Outlook 98 or the
wonderfully regressed Outlook XP (XP *brings back* the dreaded offline
calendar cache!) (Or so my minions tell me...), if delegates are involved,
if you have any scripts running against the mailboxes, and/or if you have
your free-busy publishing set to an interval more frequently than once every
15 minutes.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Calendar


Each person's Outlook settings includes a period for publishing free-busy
details.  Check that.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Jaret
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook Calendar


I am having issues with users within an exchange site not being able to
see each others information when requesting or scheduling a meeting. This
is also true to the other sites in the organization. We are running
Exchange 5.5 SP4, I did a typical install. Does anyone know what I am
missing?

thanks

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RE: Recovering Deleted items

[Great Cthulhu Jones]

Could you think of a better way of getting it?

You: Uh, boss, we gotta restore from backup.
Boss: Why in the Sam Hill we gotta do that?
You: Great Cthulhu, Lord of the Abyssal Depths, told me to.
Boss: Oh. Why didn't you say so? (Makes Elder Sign and steps 5 feet away
from you...)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kalligonis, Tim
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recovering Deleted items


I was hoping not to get this answer...

-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recovering Deleted items


Yes. Restore from a recent backup.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kalligonis, Tim
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:44 AM
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Subject: Recovering Deleted items


Is there a way to recover the items marked for deletion after the clean
mailbox tool is used in Exchange 5.5 on a mailbox?


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RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed

[Great Cthulhu Jones]

Why not? It goes great with the Inoculan Antivirus and Log File
Discombobulator system from Compooter Assoshiates.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


Install Outlook 2000 on an Exchange server???  I can't believe one would
want to do that...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jean-Francois
Bourdeau
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 6:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


TS on an exchange 2000 server is not supported by microsoft.

IF you do, also install Outlook 2000 and if you have trouble, then
you're in trouble.

Good luck

JF


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: 17 septembre, 2001 14:00
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


What is this talking pot you refer to? Why is it calling the kettle
names? Just answer my question!



Andy David
J Muller International




-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 01:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


Now there's an example of the pot calling the kettle black.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


The amount of anger and self importance you have, is amazing. How
exactly you answered/helped?

Never mind, you will never be a normal person.

- Original Message -
From: "Great Cthulhu Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 05:38
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


> Hiya, Mark! How's it going?
>
> 1) Reformat it at will until the client complains of you padding your
hours.
> 2) Why not cluster it now? That way, you can reformat at least twice
> as
many
> boxes at a time!
> 3) Just to clarify, putting PC Anywhere back in the box it came in is
> a
good
> idea.
>
> Why not make up a Q article of your own? All you have to do is get a
regular
> KB article and edit it to suit your needs. Bosses only read printouts,
they
> never check web links. You'll be very safe on that one for a good
> while, protecting your reformatting job brilliantly.
>
> (:=
> Great Cthulhu Jones
> CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
> http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
> http://www.bad-managers.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:22 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> Hi.
>
> 1) The server isn't production, yet.
> 2) win2k AS, because it may need to be clustered in the future.
> 3) I think I already said putting pcanywhere is wrong.
>
> So can you advice a Q to tell it is bad to have such configuration.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 14:34
> Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> You're wrong.  You must get paid a lot to reformat production servers.

> TS gets reinstalled whenever you add or remove a networking component
> to Windows 2000 server[1], so you'd be reformatting your server to add

> Print Services for Unix, because you wanted to create a print queue to

> a printer down the hall in Engineering.
>
> Now why anyone would put pcAnywhere on a server[2]... *shiver*
> Especially when TS is available.  And why would they be spending the
> extra money for Advanced Server if they don't have enough of a clue to

> keep pcAnywhere off of it?[3]
>
> I'm stunned that you would ever recommend formatting a production
> server because "I 'feel' it is bad".
>
> [1] I may be wrong, but it's often enough that it's made me wonder why

> it keeps reinstalling. [2]
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pca.nsf/pfdocs/1996123152913
> should fix that nicely.
> [3] Because of the support for 8-processors and the 32-node load
> balancing?  RIIiiight.  Someone needs the price delta taken from
> their paycheck.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Sunday, September 16, 2001 4:18 AM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> Subjec

RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed

[Great Cthulhu Jones]

My simple conclusion is that you're gifted, dude!

Revel in your celebrity and get an agent and a publicist, because you're
headed for the big time!

You should write a column, Mark. I *guarantee* it will get some of the
highest levels of response anyone has ever seen.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


Gentleman's:
When I ask technical question, no one answers.
When I ask Off-topic questions, all the exchange guru's reply to me.

hmmm... What is the conclusion ?!


- Original Message -
From: "Mark Hanji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:23
Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


> The amount of anger and self importance you have, is amazing.
> How exactly you answered/helped?
>
> Never mind, you will never be a normal person.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Great Cthulhu Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 05:38
> Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> > Hiya, Mark! How's it going?
> >
> > 1) Reformat it at will until the client complains of you padding your
> hours.
> > 2) Why not cluster it now? That way, you can reformat at least twice as
> many
> > boxes at a time!
> > 3) Just to clarify, putting PC Anywhere back in the box it came in is a
> good
> > idea.
> >
> > Why not make up a Q article of your own? All you have to do is get a
> regular
> > KB article and edit it to suit your needs. Bosses only read printouts,
> they
> > never check web links. You'll be very safe on that one for a good while,
> > protecting your reformatting job brilliantly.
> >
> > (:=
> > Great Cthulhu Jones
> > CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
> > http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
> > http://www.bad-managers.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:22 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > 1) The server isn't production, yet.
> > 2) win2k AS, because it may need to be clustered in the future.
> > 3) I think I already said putting pcanywhere is wrong.
> >
> > So can you advice a Q to tell it is bad to have such configuration.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 14:34
> > Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > You're wrong.  You must get paid a lot to reformat production servers.
> > TS gets reinstalled whenever you add or remove a networking component to
> > Windows 2000 server[1], so you'd be reformatting your server to add
> > Print Services for Unix, because you wanted to create a print queue to a
> > printer down the hall in Engineering.
> >
> > Now why anyone would put pcAnywhere on a server[2]... *shiver*
> > Especially when TS is available.  And why would they be spending the
> > extra money for Advanced Server if they don't have enough of a clue to
> > keep pcAnywhere off of it?[3]
> >
> > I'm stunned that you would ever recommend formatting a production server
> > because "I 'feel' it is bad".
> >
> > [1] I may be wrong, but it's often enough that it's made me wonder why
> > it keeps reinstalling.
> > [2] http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pca.nsf/pfdocs/1996123152913
> > should fix that nicely.
> > [3] Because of the support for 8-processors and the 32-node load
> > balancing?  RIIiiight.  Someone needs the price delta taken from
> > their paycheck.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Posted At: Sunday, September 16, 2001 4:18 AM
> > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> > Conversation: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> > Subject: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > Hello.
> >
> > Here is a "nice" issue I have:
> > Someone installed windows 2000AS, then installed Ex2000, then pcanywhre,
> > and
> > then
> > TS in Remote Administration Mode.
> >
> > I am saying this server should be formatted, and the TS services should
> > be
> > installed first.
> > PCanywhere should not be installed at all.
> >
> > Can someone please advice/bring some Q's that explains that is very very
> > bad
> > to install
> > TS services AFTER installing applications.
> > I "feel" it is bad. I need to prove it.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
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RE: Two organisations

[Great Cthulhu Jones]

Or you could go to the "friendly" list.

hehehe.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Two organisations


[EMAIL PROTECTED]

But here is good, too.

William

All your Aqaeda are belong to US.

-Original Message-
From: Milt Atkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Two organisations


Is there a discussion group dedicated only to Exchange 2000? and if there 
is, might someone give me some insight as to where it is ... like the 
listname.

Thanks


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RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed

[Byron Kennedy]

this represents a significant revenue center for MS.  I think you're off on
this one.

Byron

-Original Message-
From: Jean-Francois Bourdeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


I will doublecheck Ed

I'm may be wrong, it's may be only the Application Mode of TS that make
an ex2k server not supported

I will get back with the answer

JF


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: 17 septembre, 2001 21:44
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


"TS on an exchange 2000 server is not supported by microsoft."

Says who?  Do you have documentation to that effect?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
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RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed

[Kevin Miller]

Huh

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jean-Francois
Bourdeau
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 6:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


TS on an exchange 2000 server is not supported by microsoft.

IF you do, also install Outlook 2000 and if you have trouble, then
you're in trouble.

Good luck

JF


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: 17 septembre, 2001 14:00
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


What is this talking pot you refer to? Why is it calling the kettle
names? Just answer my question!



Andy David 
J Muller International




-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 01:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


Now there's an example of the pot calling the kettle black.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


The amount of anger and self importance you have, is amazing. How
exactly you answered/helped?

Never mind, you will never be a normal person.

- Original Message -
From: "Great Cthulhu Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 05:38
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


> Hiya, Mark! How's it going?
>
> 1) Reformat it at will until the client complains of you padding your
hours.
> 2) Why not cluster it now? That way, you can reformat at least twice
> as
many
> boxes at a time!
> 3) Just to clarify, putting PC Anywhere back in the box it came in is
> a
good
> idea.
>
> Why not make up a Q article of your own? All you have to do is get a
regular
> KB article and edit it to suit your needs. Bosses only read printouts,
they
> never check web links. You'll be very safe on that one for a good
> while, protecting your reformatting job brilliantly.
>
> (:=
> Great Cthulhu Jones
> CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
> http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
> http://www.bad-managers.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:22 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> Hi.
>
> 1) The server isn't production, yet.
> 2) win2k AS, because it may need to be clustered in the future.
> 3) I think I already said putting pcanywhere is wrong.
>
> So can you advice a Q to tell it is bad to have such configuration.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 14:34
> Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> You're wrong.  You must get paid a lot to reformat production servers.

> TS gets reinstalled whenever you add or remove a networking component
> to Windows 2000 server[1], so you'd be reformatting your server to add

> Print Services for Unix, because you wanted to create a print queue to

> a printer down the hall in Engineering.
>
> Now why anyone would put pcAnywhere on a server[2]... *shiver*
> Especially when TS is available.  And why would they be spending the 
> extra money for Advanced Server if they don't have enough of a clue to

> keep pcAnywhere off of it?[3]
>
> I'm stunned that you would ever recommend formatting a production
> server because "I 'feel' it is bad".
>
> [1] I may be wrong, but it's often enough that it's made me wonder why

> it keeps reinstalling. [2]
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pca.nsf/pfdocs/1996123152913
> should fix that nicely.
> [3] Because of the support for 8-processors and the 32-node load 
> balancing?  RIIiiight.  Someone needs the price delta taken from 
> their paycheck.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Sunday, September 16, 2001 4:18 AM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> Subject: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> Hello.
>
> Here is a "nice" issue I have:
> Someone installed windows 2000AS, then installed Ex2000, then
> pcanywhre, and then
> TS in Remote Administratio

RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed

[Jean-Francois Bourdeau]

I will doublecheck Ed

I'm may be wrong, it's may be only the Application Mode of TS that make
an ex2k server not supported

I will get back with the answer

JF


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: 17 septembre, 2001 21:44
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


"TS on an exchange 2000 server is not supported by microsoft."

Says who?  Do you have documentation to that effect?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


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RE: Exchange server fails after restore

[Stephen Mynhier]

Verify the org and site name again.  It is case sensitive.
Then provide any relative events in the ap log

Stephen

-Original Message-
From: Lucia Washaya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange server fails after restore


Hello

My exchange server crashed. I built another one with the same and
organization and restored the exchange database from backup. Now the MTA
will not start. ISINTEG completes but ESUTIL hangs.

What should I do?

Thank You,

Lucia

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RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed

[Ed Crowley]

"TS on an exchange 2000 server is not supported by microsoft."

Says who?  Do you have documentation to that effect?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jean-Francois
Bourdeau
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 6:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


TS on an exchange 2000 server is not supported by microsoft.

IF you do, also install Outlook 2000 and if you have trouble, then
you're in trouble.

Good luck

JF


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: 17 septembre, 2001 14:00
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


What is this talking pot you refer to? Why is it calling the kettle
names? Just answer my question!



Andy David 
J Muller International




-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 01:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


Now there's an example of the pot calling the kettle black.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


The amount of anger and self importance you have, is amazing. How
exactly you answered/helped?

Never mind, you will never be a normal person.

- Original Message -
From: "Great Cthulhu Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 05:38
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


> Hiya, Mark! How's it going?
>
> 1) Reformat it at will until the client complains of you padding your
hours.
> 2) Why not cluster it now? That way, you can reformat at least twice 
> as
many
> boxes at a time!
> 3) Just to clarify, putting PC Anywhere back in the box it came in is 
> a
good
> idea.
>
> Why not make up a Q article of your own? All you have to do is get a
regular
> KB article and edit it to suit your needs. Bosses only read printouts,
they
> never check web links. You'll be very safe on that one for a good 
> while, protecting your reformatting job brilliantly.
>
> (:=
> Great Cthulhu Jones
> CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
> http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
> http://www.bad-managers.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:22 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> Hi.
>
> 1) The server isn't production, yet.
> 2) win2k AS, because it may need to be clustered in the future.
> 3) I think I already said putting pcanywhere is wrong.
>
> So can you advice a Q to tell it is bad to have such configuration.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 14:34
> Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> You're wrong.  You must get paid a lot to reformat production servers.

> TS gets reinstalled whenever you add or remove a networking component 
> to Windows 2000 server[1], so you'd be reformatting your server to add

> Print Services for Unix, because you wanted to create a print queue to

> a printer down the hall in Engineering.
>
> Now why anyone would put pcAnywhere on a server[2]... *shiver* 
> Especially when TS is available.  And why would they be spending the 
> extra money for Advanced Server if they don't have enough of a clue to

> keep pcAnywhere off of it?[3]
>
> I'm stunned that you would ever recommend formatting a production 
> server because "I 'feel' it is bad".
>
> [1] I may be wrong, but it's often enough that it's made me wonder why

> it keeps reinstalling. [2] 
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pca.nsf/pfdocs/1996123152913
> should fix that nicely.
> [3] Because of the support for 8-processors and the 32-node load 
> balancing?  RIIiiight.  Someone needs the price delta taken from 
> their paycheck.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Sunday, September 16, 2001 4:18 AM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> Subject: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> Hello.
>
> Here is a "nice" issue I have:
> Someone installed windows 2000AS, then installed Ex2000, then 
> pcanywhre, and then
> TS in Remote Administration Mode.
>
> I am saying this server should be formatted, and the TS services 

RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed

[Don Ely]

Install Outlook 2000 on an Exchange server???  I can't believe one would
want to do that...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jean-Francois
Bourdeau
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 6:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


TS on an exchange 2000 server is not supported by microsoft.

IF you do, also install Outlook 2000 and if you have trouble, then
you're in trouble.

Good luck

JF


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: 17 septembre, 2001 14:00
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


What is this talking pot you refer to? Why is it calling the kettle
names? Just answer my question!



Andy David 
J Muller International




-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 01:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


Now there's an example of the pot calling the kettle black.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


The amount of anger and self importance you have, is amazing. How
exactly you answered/helped?

Never mind, you will never be a normal person.

- Original Message -
From: "Great Cthulhu Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 05:38
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


> Hiya, Mark! How's it going?
>
> 1) Reformat it at will until the client complains of you padding your
hours.
> 2) Why not cluster it now? That way, you can reformat at least twice
> as
many
> boxes at a time!
> 3) Just to clarify, putting PC Anywhere back in the box it came in is
> a
good
> idea.
>
> Why not make up a Q article of your own? All you have to do is get a
regular
> KB article and edit it to suit your needs. Bosses only read printouts,
they
> never check web links. You'll be very safe on that one for a good
> while, protecting your reformatting job brilliantly.
>
> (:=
> Great Cthulhu Jones
> CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
> http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
> http://www.bad-managers.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:22 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> Hi.
>
> 1) The server isn't production, yet.
> 2) win2k AS, because it may need to be clustered in the future.
> 3) I think I already said putting pcanywhere is wrong.
>
> So can you advice a Q to tell it is bad to have such configuration.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 14:34
> Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> You're wrong.  You must get paid a lot to reformat production servers.

> TS gets reinstalled whenever you add or remove a networking component
> to Windows 2000 server[1], so you'd be reformatting your server to add

> Print Services for Unix, because you wanted to create a print queue to

> a printer down the hall in Engineering.
>
> Now why anyone would put pcAnywhere on a server[2]... *shiver*
> Especially when TS is available.  And why would they be spending the 
> extra money for Advanced Server if they don't have enough of a clue to

> keep pcAnywhere off of it?[3]
>
> I'm stunned that you would ever recommend formatting a production
> server because "I 'feel' it is bad".
>
> [1] I may be wrong, but it's often enough that it's made me wonder why

> it keeps reinstalling. [2]
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pca.nsf/pfdocs/1996123152913
> should fix that nicely.
> [3] Because of the support for 8-processors and the 32-node load 
> balancing?  RIIiiight.  Someone needs the price delta taken from 
> their paycheck.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Sunday, September 16, 2001 4:18 AM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> Subject: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> Hello.
>
> Here is a "nice" issue I have:
> Someone installed windows 2000AS, then installed Ex2000, then
> pcanywhre, and then
> TS in Remote Administration Mode.
>
> I am saying this server should be formatted, and the TS services
> should be installed first.
> PCanywhere should not be installed at all.
>
> Can someone please advice/bring some Q's that explains that is very
> very ba

RE: Exchange virus protection and filters

[Jean-Francois Bourdeau]

Mime sweeper, antigen Sybari

JF



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RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed

[Jean-Francois Bourdeau]

TS on an exchange 2000 server is not supported by microsoft.

IF you do, also install Outlook 2000 and if you have trouble, then
you're in trouble.

Good luck

JF


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: 17 septembre, 2001 14:00
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


What is this talking pot you refer to? Why is it calling the kettle
names? Just answer my question!



Andy David 
J Muller International




-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 01:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


Now there's an example of the pot calling the kettle black.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


The amount of anger and self importance you have, is amazing. How
exactly you answered/helped?

Never mind, you will never be a normal person.

- Original Message -
From: "Great Cthulhu Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 05:38
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


> Hiya, Mark! How's it going?
>
> 1) Reformat it at will until the client complains of you padding your
hours.
> 2) Why not cluster it now? That way, you can reformat at least twice 
> as
many
> boxes at a time!
> 3) Just to clarify, putting PC Anywhere back in the box it came in is 
> a
good
> idea.
>
> Why not make up a Q article of your own? All you have to do is get a
regular
> KB article and edit it to suit your needs. Bosses only read printouts,
they
> never check web links. You'll be very safe on that one for a good 
> while, protecting your reformatting job brilliantly.
>
> (:=
> Great Cthulhu Jones
> CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
> http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
> http://www.bad-managers.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:22 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> Hi.
>
> 1) The server isn't production, yet.
> 2) win2k AS, because it may need to be clustered in the future.
> 3) I think I already said putting pcanywhere is wrong.
>
> So can you advice a Q to tell it is bad to have such configuration.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 14:34
> Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> You're wrong.  You must get paid a lot to reformat production servers.

> TS gets reinstalled whenever you add or remove a networking component 
> to Windows 2000 server[1], so you'd be reformatting your server to add

> Print Services for Unix, because you wanted to create a print queue to

> a printer down the hall in Engineering.
>
> Now why anyone would put pcAnywhere on a server[2]... *shiver* 
> Especially when TS is available.  And why would they be spending the 
> extra money for Advanced Server if they don't have enough of a clue to

> keep pcAnywhere off of it?[3]
>
> I'm stunned that you would ever recommend formatting a production 
> server because "I 'feel' it is bad".
>
> [1] I may be wrong, but it's often enough that it's made me wonder why

> it keeps reinstalling. [2] 
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pca.nsf/pfdocs/1996123152913
> should fix that nicely.
> [3] Because of the support for 8-processors and the 32-node load 
> balancing?  RIIiiight.  Someone needs the price delta taken from 
> their paycheck.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Sunday, September 16, 2001 4:18 AM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> Subject: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> Hello.
>
> Here is a "nice" issue I have:
> Someone installed windows 2000AS, then installed Ex2000, then 
> pcanywhre, and then
> TS in Remote Administration Mode.
>
> I am saying this server should be formatted, and the TS services 
> should be installed first.
> PCanywhere should not be installed at all.
>
> Can someone please advice/bring some Q's that explains that is very 
> very bad to install
> TS services AFTER installing applications.
> I "feel" it is bad. I need to prove it.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
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RE: God Bless America (way OT)

[Martin Blackstone]

The answer is.NO!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Just answer the question!

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: God Bless America (way OT)


Uh... Martin? Could I ask a little favor of ya...? Would you... uh...
blow my horn?

- Original Message -
From: "Martin Blackstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:40 PM
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


SHUT UP!!! LEAVE ME ALONE!!!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Barry Patterson
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


"I be blowing anyone else's horn."
Freudian slip?
HAHA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ok. Let me make myself very clear
The only horn I will blow is any horn that Michèle may need blown (as
long as she doesn't point at Brian).

Other than that, I be blowing anyone else's horn. Thankyouverymuch

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


I assured you, I said "whew" the loudest.


-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


When I first saw your reply I thought you had replied to William!
Whew...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ill do it for you

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


*blush*  I didn't want to blow my own horn, as it were

-Michèle
Immigration site:  
Our new 2001 Miata:  
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I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid.
-


-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


That's because she's a minion of CJ.
A MOS +BP no less.


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RE: Outlook Calendar

[Ed Crowley]

Each person's Outlook settings includes a period for publishing free-busy
details.  Check that.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Jaret
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook Calendar


I am having issues with users within an exchange site not being able to
see each others information when requesting or scheduling a meeting. This
is also true to the other sites in the organization. We are running
Exchange 5.5 SP4, I did a typical install. Does anyone know what I am
missing?

thanks

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RE: 5.5 Replication problem

[Ed Crowley]

Maybe the public folder hierarchy?

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Simon Sparks
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:58 AM
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Subject: 5.5 Replication problem


We have two Exchage sites within the same Organisation which are linked by
dial on demand routers and using IMC for replication.  The exchange
servers
are both v5.5 SP4.

We have done a lot of work to control as much replication traffic as
possible between sites (directory and address book views both replicate at
01:00am) we have also checked the public folder replication times and set
them to 01:00 am on the schedule tab.

We are currently getting a single e-mail generated every 4 hours on the
button between the two -DSA accounts and we have no idea what is
generating these replication messages!

Can anyone PLEASE shed light on what is causing these mails.

Many thanks in Advance

Simon Sparks

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RE: God Bless America (way OT)

[Ed Crowley]

Just answer the question!

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: God Bless America (way OT)


Uh... Martin? Could I ask a little favor of ya...? Would you... uh... blow
my horn?

- Original Message -
From: "Martin Blackstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:40 PM
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


SHUT UP!!! LEAVE ME ALONE!!!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Barry Patterson
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


"I be blowing anyone else's horn."
Freudian slip?
HAHA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ok. Let me make myself very clear
The only horn I will blow is any horn that Michèle may need blown (as
long as she doesn't point at Brian).

Other than that, I be blowing anyone else's horn. Thankyouverymuch

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


I assured you, I said "whew" the loudest.


-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


When I first saw your reply I thought you had replied to William!
Whew...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ill do it for you

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


*blush*  I didn't want to blow my own horn, as it were

-Michèle
Immigration site:  
Our new 2001 Miata:  
Tiggercam:  
-
I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid.
-


-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


That's because she's a minion of CJ.
A MOS +BP no less.


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RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed

[Ed Crowley]

That would be "gentlemen".  The apostrophe is not used for plurals, just
possessives and contractions.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


Gentleman's:
When I ask technical question, no one answers.
When I ask Off-topic questions, all the exchange guru's reply to me.

hmmm... What is the conclusion ?!


- Original Message -
From: "Mark Hanji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:23
Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


> The amount of anger and self importance you have, is amazing.
> How exactly you answered/helped?
>
> Never mind, you will never be a normal person.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Great Cthulhu Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 05:38
> Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> > Hiya, Mark! How's it going?
> >
> > 1) Reformat it at will until the client complains of you padding your
> hours.
> > 2) Why not cluster it now? That way, you can reformat at least twice as
> many
> > boxes at a time!
> > 3) Just to clarify, putting PC Anywhere back in the box it came in is a
> good
> > idea.
> >
> > Why not make up a Q article of your own? All you have to do is get a
> regular
> > KB article and edit it to suit your needs. Bosses only read printouts,
> they
> > never check web links. You'll be very safe on that one for a good while,
> > protecting your reformatting job brilliantly.
> >
> > (:=
> > Great Cthulhu Jones
> > CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
> > http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
> > http://www.bad-managers.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:22 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > 1) The server isn't production, yet.
> > 2) win2k AS, because it may need to be clustered in the future.
> > 3) I think I already said putting pcanywhere is wrong.
> >
> > So can you advice a Q to tell it is bad to have such configuration.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 14:34
> > Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > You're wrong.  You must get paid a lot to reformat production servers.
> > TS gets reinstalled whenever you add or remove a networking component to
> > Windows 2000 server[1], so you'd be reformatting your server to add
> > Print Services for Unix, because you wanted to create a print queue to a
> > printer down the hall in Engineering.
> >
> > Now why anyone would put pcAnywhere on a server[2]... *shiver*
> > Especially when TS is available.  And why would they be spending the
> > extra money for Advanced Server if they don't have enough of a clue to
> > keep pcAnywhere off of it?[3]
> >
> > I'm stunned that you would ever recommend formatting a production server
> > because "I 'feel' it is bad".
> >
> > [1] I may be wrong, but it's often enough that it's made me wonder why
> > it keeps reinstalling.
> > [2] http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pca.nsf/pfdocs/1996123152913
> > should fix that nicely.
> > [3] Because of the support for 8-processors and the 32-node load
> > balancing?  RIIiiight.  Someone needs the price delta taken from
> > their paycheck.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Posted At: Sunday, September 16, 2001 4:18 AM
> > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> > Conversation: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> > Subject: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > Hello.
> >
> > Here is a "nice" issue I have:
> > Someone installed windows 2000AS, then installed Ex2000, then pcanywhre,
> > and
> > then
> > TS in Remote Administration Mode.
> >
> > I am saying this server should be formatted, and the TS services should
> > be
> > installed first.
> > PCanywhere should not be installed at all.
> >
> > Can someone please advice/bring some Q's that explains that is very very
> > bad
> > to install
> > TS services AFTER installing applications.
> > I "feel" it is bad. I need to prove it.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
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RE: IM

[Dan Bartley]

I believe I found the problem... It is apparently Post SP1 as it
requires SP1 to use.

KB Article Q303991

Fits my circumstances. Didn't see this the first time I searched. It's
all in how you ask :-)

Best Regards,

Dan Bartley


-Original Message-
From: Dan Bartley 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 19:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IM

Yep, did that. Can get it working for a bit and then it just dies for
authentication. I've had this problem before on other servers. Gave up
on it, now I'm trying to make a serious go of it again in the hopes SP1
helped.

If I completely blow away the virtual server and then re-create,
sometimes it will start working again for a while or it takes several
attempts of re-creating before it works again. Eventually, it starts
having the same problem again.

Best Regards,

Dan Bartley
Senior MIS Manager
NetCarrier Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.netcarrier.com
Direct Phone: 215.966.3310


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 19:23
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IM

Yes, I've implemented it several times, with either IP or host head
configuration.  Make sure after you have the IM installed.  Restart the
WWW service, and restart IM Vitual Server site, even if they both are
showing running...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA
   

-Original Message-
From: Dan Bartley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 1:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IM


Has anyone successfully got IM for E2k to consistently run without the
authentication failure problem? I've tried every KB article I could find
on it and nothing seems to keep it consistently working.

E2k, SP1, Win2k AS, SP2. Nothing else on the box, not a domain
controller. Have the resource record. Tried host header change, alias.
Can't seem to get it to consistently work. Client is the SP1 3.5
version. No other version installed over it.

TIA for any thoughts.

Best Regards,

Dan Bartley


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RE: IM

[Dan Bartley]

Yep, did that. Can get it working for a bit and then it just dies for
authentication. I've had this problem before on other servers. Gave up
on it, now I'm trying to make a serious go of it again in the hopes SP1
helped.

If I completely blow away the virtual server and then re-create,
sometimes it will start working again for a while or it takes several
attempts of re-creating before it works again. Eventually, it starts
having the same problem again.

Best Regards,

Dan Bartley
Senior MIS Manager
NetCarrier Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.netcarrier.com
Direct Phone: 215.966.3310


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 19:23
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IM

Yes, I've implemented it several times, with either IP or host head
configuration.  Make sure after you have the IM installed.  Restart the
WWW service, and restart IM Vitual Server site, even if they both are
showing running...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA
   

-Original Message-
From: Dan Bartley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 1:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IM


Has anyone successfully got IM for E2k to consistently run without the
authentication failure problem? I've tried every KB article I could find
on it and nothing seems to keep it consistently working.

E2k, SP1, Win2k AS, SP2. Nothing else on the box, not a domain
controller. Have the resource record. Tried host header change, alias.
Can't seem to get it to consistently work. Client is the SP1 3.5
version. No other version installed over it.

TIA for any thoughts.

Best Regards,

Dan Bartley


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RE: ims queues

[Andy David]

WE MAKE CONTACT


-Original Message-
From: Richard Tener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: ims queues


Hello,


I HAVE EXCHANGE SERVER 5.5 SP4 RUNNING ON WINDOWS NT 4.0 SP6. EVERYDAY I
CHECK THE IMS QUEUES AND IT SHOWS SOME MESSAGES ARE STUCK IN THE QUEUES
FOR A LONG TIME.  THE MESSAGE WILL KEEP TRYING FOR SOMETIME BUT WILL STAY
IN THERE FOR EVER.  ALSO OTHER MESSAGES ARE GOING OUT AND WE ALSO RECEIVE
ALOT OF MESSAGES WITH NO PROBLEM.  I ALSO NOTICED THAT THERE IS ONE
COMPANY THAT ALWAYS GET STUCK IN THE QUEUE.  I DONT HAVE MESSAGE TRACKING
ON BECAUSE I DONT KNOW HOW TO SET THAT UP.  ALSO IF ITS THE OTHER COMPANYS
SERVER PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHY IT WOULD BE THEIR SERVER.  THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME.

RICHARD TENER
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RE: ims queues

[Steve Rollings]

DNS is a wonderful thang.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
> Bueffel, Scott
> M - CNF
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 00:20
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: ims queues
> 
> 
> Richard, THERE IS NO NEED TO YELL.  You haven't said with it 
> is the inbound
> or outbound queue.  I will assume outbound since it would be rare for
> inbound messages to be stuck.  If you are not relaying to 
> another server it
> is very common to have messages stuck in the outbound 
> delivery queue.  If
> you click on the Details button it will tell you why the 
> message has not
> been delivered.  The most common reason will be Host 
> Unavailable or Host
> Undeliverable.  That means that for any number of reasons 
> your server could
> not initiate a TCP session with the recipients mailhost.  If 
> most of your
> messages are going through then there is a probably nothing wrong.
> Especially if the messages in question go after awhile.  You 
> can test a
> connection by doing an MX record lookup for the host in 
> question and then
> initiate a telnet session to port 25 to that host from your 
> Exchange server.
> If that fails, then your IMS will be unable to send the message.
> 
> Scott.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Tener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:49 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: ims queues
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> I HAVE EXCHANGE SERVER 5.5 SP4 RUNNING ON WINDOWS NT 4.0 SP6. 
> EVERYDAY I
> CHECK THE IMS QUEUES AND IT SHOWS SOME MESSAGES ARE STUCK IN 
> THE QUEUES FOR
> A LONG TIME.  THE MESSAGE WILL KEEP TRYING FOR SOMETIME BUT 
> WILL STAY IN
> THERE FOR EVER.  ALSO OTHER MESSAGES ARE GOING OUT AND WE 
> ALSO RECEIVE ALOT
> OF MESSAGES WITH NO PROBLEM.  I ALSO NOTICED THAT THERE IS 
> ONE COMPANY THAT
> ALWAYS GET STUCK IN THE QUEUE.  I DONT HAVE MESSAGE TRACKING 
> ON BECAUSE I
> DONT KNOW HOW TO SET THAT UP.  ALSO IF ITS THE OTHER COMPANYS 
> SERVER PLEASE
> LET ME KNOW WHY IT WOULD BE THEIR SERVER.  THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
> 
> RICHARD TENER
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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RE: IM

[Andrew Chan]

Yes, I've implemented it several times, with either IP or host head
configuration.  Make sure after you have the IM installed.  Restart the
WWW service, and restart IM Vitual Server site, even if they both are
showing running...

Andrew,
MCSE (NT & W2K) + CCNA
   

-Original Message-
From: Dan Bartley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 1:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IM


Has anyone successfully got IM for E2k to consistently run without the
authentication failure problem? I've tried every KB article I could find
on it and nothing seems to keep it consistently working.

E2k, SP1, Win2k AS, SP2. Nothing else on the box, not a domain
controller. Have the resource record. Tried host header change, alias.
Can't seem to get it to consistently work. Client is the SP1 3.5
version. No other version installed over it.

TIA for any thoughts.

Best Regards,

Dan Bartley


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RE: ims queues

[Bueffel, Scott M - CNF]

Richard, THERE IS NO NEED TO YELL.  You haven't said with it is the inbound
or outbound queue.  I will assume outbound since it would be rare for
inbound messages to be stuck.  If you are not relaying to another server it
is very common to have messages stuck in the outbound delivery queue.  If
you click on the Details button it will tell you why the message has not
been delivered.  The most common reason will be Host Unavailable or Host
Undeliverable.  That means that for any number of reasons your server could
not initiate a TCP session with the recipients mailhost.  If most of your
messages are going through then there is a probably nothing wrong.
Especially if the messages in question go after awhile.  You can test a
connection by doing an MX record lookup for the host in question and then
initiate a telnet session to port 25 to that host from your Exchange server.
If that fails, then your IMS will be unable to send the message.

Scott.

-Original Message-
From: Richard Tener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: ims queues


Hello,


I HAVE EXCHANGE SERVER 5.5 SP4 RUNNING ON WINDOWS NT 4.0 SP6. EVERYDAY I
CHECK THE IMS QUEUES AND IT SHOWS SOME MESSAGES ARE STUCK IN THE QUEUES FOR
A LONG TIME.  THE MESSAGE WILL KEEP TRYING FOR SOMETIME BUT WILL STAY IN
THERE FOR EVER.  ALSO OTHER MESSAGES ARE GOING OUT AND WE ALSO RECEIVE ALOT
OF MESSAGES WITH NO PROBLEM.  I ALSO NOTICED THAT THERE IS ONE COMPANY THAT
ALWAYS GET STUCK IN THE QUEUE.  I DONT HAVE MESSAGE TRACKING ON BECAUSE I
DONT KNOW HOW TO SET THAT UP.  ALSO IF ITS THE OTHER COMPANYS SERVER PLEASE
LET ME KNOW WHY IT WOULD BE THEIR SERVER.  THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

RICHARD TENER
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Office Assistant

[Raul Rivera]

Is there a way a changing the autoreply text sent within the SUBJECT field
of an automatic reply. I would like to change the default text.

Thanks in advance!

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Outlook Calendar

[Chris Jaret]

I am having issues with users within an exchange site not being able to
see each others information when requesting or scheduling a meeting. This
is also true to the other sites in the organization. We are running
Exchange 5.5 SP4, I did a typical install. Does anyone know what I am
missing?

thanks

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IM

[Dan Bartley]

Has anyone successfully got IM for E2k to consistently run without the
authentication failure problem? I've tried every KB article I could find
on it and nothing seems to keep it consistently working.

E2k, SP1, Win2k AS, SP2. Nothing else on the box, not a domain
controller. Have the resource record. Tried host header change, alias.
Can't seem to get it to consistently work. Client is the SP1 3.5
version. No other version installed over it.

TIA for any thoughts.

Best Regards,

Dan Bartley


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ims queues

[Richard Tener]

Hello,


I HAVE EXCHANGE SERVER 5.5 SP4 RUNNING ON WINDOWS NT 4.0 SP6. EVERYDAY I
CHECK THE IMS QUEUES AND IT SHOWS SOME MESSAGES ARE STUCK IN THE QUEUES
FOR A LONG TIME.  THE MESSAGE WILL KEEP TRYING FOR SOMETIME BUT WILL STAY
IN THERE FOR EVER.  ALSO OTHER MESSAGES ARE GOING OUT AND WE ALSO RECEIVE
ALOT OF MESSAGES WITH NO PROBLEM.  I ALSO NOTICED THAT THERE IS ONE
COMPANY THAT ALWAYS GET STUCK IN THE QUEUE.  I DONT HAVE MESSAGE TRACKING
ON BECAUSE I DONT KNOW HOW TO SET THAT UP.  ALSO IF ITS THE OTHER COMPANYS
SERVER PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHY IT WOULD BE THEIR SERVER.  THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME.

RICHARD TENER
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RE: Exchange 5.5 Event Log error

[coopere]

I've seen it too many times.  It will keep your directory from replicating and may 
cause servers to stop responding altogether.  The problem actually exists on the 
server on the other side of the connection (if the event is showing on your 
bridgehead, one of your spoke sites has the problem).  Call Microsoft PSS and open a 
support case.  This is not one you can fix by yourself.

Eric

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:25:42 -0400, "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> 
> Exchange 5.5 Question. Has anyone seen the event below and do you know what
> it is?
> 
> This is on a Bridgehead/IMS servers. Nothing in KB specifically.
> Running WinNT 4.0 SP6a.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tamara Granger
> 
> 
> 
> Event Log Error:
> Exception e0010002 has occurred with parameters 9 and 0 (internal ID
> 30809ec). Contact Microsoft Technical Support for assistance.
> Source: MSExhangeDS
> Event ID: 1171
> Type: Error
> Category: Internal Processing.
> 
> 
> 
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Exchange 5.5 Event Log error

[Tamara Granger]

Hi,


Exchange 5.5 Question. Has anyone seen the event below and do you know what
it is?

This is on a Bridgehead/IMS servers. Nothing in KB specifically.
Running WinNT 4.0 SP6a.

Thanks,
Tamara Granger



Event Log Error:
Exception e0010002 has occurred with parameters 9 and 0 (internal ID
30809ec). Contact Microsoft Technical Support for assistance.
Source: MSExhangeDS
Event ID: 1171
Type: Error
Category: Internal Processing.




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RE: God Bless America (way OT)

[Barry Patterson]

LOL

I could have used all this laughter early this morning.

Barry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


You're just jealous.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Hmmm...  You seem to have a thing for blowing other people's horns.  I
find that rather disturbing...  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ok. Let me make myself very clear
The only horn I will blow is any horn that Michèle may need blown (as
long as she doesn't point at Brian).

Other than that, I be blowing anyone else's horn. Thankyouverymuch

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


I assured you, I said "whew" the loudest.


-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


When I first saw your reply I thought you had replied to William!
Whew...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ill do it for you

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


*blush*  I didn't want to blow my own horn, as it were

-Michèle
Immigration site:  
Our new 2001 Miata:  
Tiggercam:  
-
I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid.
-


-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


That's because she's a minion of CJ.
A MOS +BP no less.


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RE: God Bless America (way OT)

[Don Ely]

Jealous?  No.  Scared?  Maybe...  I might be going to MEC and I don't
want to have to worry about Martin blowing "my horn".  Even if he does
have "fishy" lips!  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


You're just jealous.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Hmmm...  You seem to have a thing for blowing other people's horns.  I
find that rather disturbing...  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ok. Let me make myself very clear
The only horn I will blow is any horn that Michèle may need blown (as
long as she doesn't point at Brian).

Other than that, I be blowing anyone else's horn. Thankyouverymuch

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


I assured you, I said "whew" the loudest.


-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


When I first saw your reply I thought you had replied to William!
Whew...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ill do it for you

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


*blush*  I didn't want to blow my own horn, as it were

-Michèle
Immigration site:  
Our new 2001 Miata:  
Tiggercam:  
-
I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid.
-


-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


That's because she's a minion of CJ.
A MOS +BP no less.


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RE: God Bless America (way OT)

[Lefkovics, William]

You're just jealous.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Hmmm...  You seem to have a thing for blowing other people's horns.  I
find that rather disturbing...  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ok. Let me make myself very clear
The only horn I will blow is any horn that Michèle may need blown (as
long as she doesn't point at Brian).

Other than that, I be blowing anyone else's horn. Thankyouverymuch

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


I assured you, I said "whew" the loudest.


-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


When I first saw your reply I thought you had replied to William!
Whew...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ill do it for you

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


*blush*  I didn't want to blow my own horn, as it were

-Michèle
Immigration site:  
Our new 2001 Miata:  
Tiggercam:  
-
I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid.
-


-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


That's because she's a minion of CJ.
A MOS +BP no less.


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RE: God Bless America (way OT)

[Don Ely]

Hmmm...  You seem to have a thing for blowing other people's horns.  I
find that rather disturbing...  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ok. Let me make myself very clear
The only horn I will blow is any horn that Michèle may need blown (as
long as she doesn't point at Brian).

Other than that, I be blowing anyone else's horn. Thankyouverymuch

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


I assured you, I said "whew" the loudest.


-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


When I first saw your reply I thought you had replied to William!
Whew...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ill do it for you

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


*blush*  I didn't want to blow my own horn, as it were

-Michèle
Immigration site:  
Our new 2001 Miata:  
Tiggercam:  
-
I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid.
-


-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


That's because she's a minion of CJ.
A MOS +BP no less.


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RE: God Bless America (way OT)

[Barry Patterson]

HEHEHE, Glad I'm not the only one screwing up emails today :P

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


SHUT UP!!! LEAVE ME ALONE!!!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Barry Patterson
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


"I be blowing anyone else's horn."
Freudian slip?
HAHA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ok. Let me make myself very clear
The only horn I will blow is any horn that Michèle may need blown (as
long as she doesn't point at Brian).

Other than that, I be blowing anyone else's horn. Thankyouverymuch

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


I assured you, I said "whew" the loudest.


-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


When I first saw your reply I thought you had replied to William!
Whew...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ill do it for you

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


*blush*  I didn't want to blow my own horn, as it were

-Michèle
Immigration site:  
Our new 2001 Miata:  
Tiggercam:  
-
I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid.
-


-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


That's because she's a minion of CJ.
A MOS +BP no less.


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Re: God Bless America (way OT)

[Daniel Chenault]

Uh... Martin? Could I ask a little favor of ya...? Would you... uh... blow
my horn?

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From: "Martin Blackstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:40 PM
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


SHUT UP!!! LEAVE ME ALONE!!!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Barry Patterson
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


"I be blowing anyone else's horn."
Freudian slip?
HAHA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ok. Let me make myself very clear
The only horn I will blow is any horn that Michèle may need blown (as
long as she doesn't point at Brian).

Other than that, I be blowing anyone else's horn. Thankyouverymuch

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


I assured you, I said "whew" the loudest.


-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


When I first saw your reply I thought you had replied to William!
Whew...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ill do it for you

-Original Message-
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:13 AM
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Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


*blush*  I didn't want to blow my own horn, as it were

-Michèle
Immigration site:  
Our new 2001 Miata:  
Tiggercam:  
-
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-


-Original Message-
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That's because she's a minion of CJ.
A MOS +BP no less.


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RE: God Bless America (way OT)

[Martin Blackstone]

SHUT UP!!! LEAVE ME ALONE!!!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Barry Patterson
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


"I be blowing anyone else's horn."
Freudian slip?
HAHA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ok. Let me make myself very clear
The only horn I will blow is any horn that Michèle may need blown (as
long as she doesn't point at Brian).

Other than that, I be blowing anyone else's horn. Thankyouverymuch

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


I assured you, I said "whew" the loudest.


-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


When I first saw your reply I thought you had replied to William!
Whew...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ill do it for you

-Original Message-
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:13 AM
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Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


*blush*  I didn't want to blow my own horn, as it were

-Michèle
Immigration site:  
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-
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-


-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


That's because she's a minion of CJ.
A MOS +BP no less.


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RE: God Bless America (way OT)

[Martin Blackstone]

OH MY GOD!! NOW I TYPO!

Other than that, I WONT BE blowing anyone else's horn. 

That’s it. I'm going to Exodus. Nobody can see me or email me there.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ok. Let me make myself very clear
The only horn I will blow is any horn that Michèle may need blown (as
long as she doesn't point at Brian).

Other than that, I be blowing anyone else's horn. Thankyouverymuch

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


I assured you, I said "whew" the loudest.


-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


When I first saw your reply I thought you had replied to William!
Whew...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ill do it for you

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


*blush*  I didn't want to blow my own horn, as it were

-Michèle
Immigration site:  
Our new 2001 Miata:  
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-


-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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That's because she's a minion of CJ.
A MOS +BP no less.


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RE: God Bless America (way OT)

[Barry Patterson]

"I be blowing anyone else's horn."
Freudian slip?
HAHA

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ok. Let me make myself very clear
The only horn I will blow is any horn that Michèle may need blown (as
long as she doesn't point at Brian).

Other than that, I be blowing anyone else's horn. Thankyouverymuch

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:34 PM
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Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


I assured you, I said "whew" the loudest.


-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


When I first saw your reply I thought you had replied to William!
Whew...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ill do it for you

-Original Message-
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:13 AM
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Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


*blush*  I didn't want to blow my own horn, as it were

-Michèle
Immigration site:  
Our new 2001 Miata:  
Tiggercam:  
-
I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid.
-


-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


That's because she's a minion of CJ.
A MOS +BP no less.


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RE: God Bless America (way OT)

[Thomas Di Nardo]

Blowing your own horns, other people's horns, and cutting other's parts
off You people are sick. Just sick. ; )

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:35 PM
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Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)

Ouch!  Now you're cutting my part?


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


ROFL
I thought to myself after I sent it. "God, I hope I remembered to cut
Williams part out"

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Barry Patterson
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


When I first saw your reply I thought you had replied to William!
Whew...


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:27 PM
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Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ill do it for you

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Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:13 AM
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*blush*  I didn't want to blow my own horn, as it were

-Michèle
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RE: God Bless America (way OT)

[Martin Blackstone]

Ok. Let me make myself very clear
The only horn I will blow is any horn that Michèle may need blown (as
long as she doesn't point at Brian).

Other than that, I be blowing anyone else's horn. Thankyouverymuch

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


I assured you, I said "whew" the loudest.


-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


When I first saw your reply I thought you had replied to William!
Whew...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ill do it for you

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


*blush*  I didn't want to blow my own horn, as it were

-Michèle
Immigration site:  
Our new 2001 Miata:  
Tiggercam:  
-
I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid.
-


-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


That's because she's a minion of CJ.
A MOS +BP no less.


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RE: God Bless America (way OT)

[Don Ely]

LOL!  Me too!  :o)

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Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:33 PM
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Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


When I first saw your reply I thought you had replied to William!
Whew...


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:27 PM
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Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ill do it for you

-Original Message-
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:13 AM
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Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


*blush*  I didn't want to blow my own horn, as it were

-Michèle
Immigration site:  
Our new 2001 Miata:  
Tiggercam:  
-
I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid.
-


-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


That's because she's a minion of CJ.
A MOS +BP no less.

> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Pochedley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:31 PM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: God Bless America (way OT)
>
> Michèle,
>
> How did you know it was my uncle who owned a gas station?  I didn't 
> say that in the original message...  Good guess, if it was indeed a 
> guess...  Are you spying on me?  :)
>
> $.10 per gallon increase isn't really price gouging...  OTOH, those 
> stations on the near east side of Cleveland that were selling gas for 
> $4.00 a gallon...  THAT's price gouging...
>
> JoeP
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:20 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)
>
>
> The Mayor of Cleveland announced that any gas station engaged in 
> "price gouging" would be shut down.
>
> I think the Cuyahoga County Commissioners agreed to do the same in the

> rest of the County.
>
> Sorry for your uncle, but "price gouging" is what it looks like to the

> average citizen
>
> -Michèle  (also in Cleveland, OH)
> Immigration site:  
> Our new 2001 Miata:  
> Tiggercam:  
> -
> "Your (sic) a crackhead" - Richard Seigel to Ed Crowley, April 2001
> -
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:08 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)
>
>
> Here in Cleveland, OH gas went from about $1.699 to $1.799 
> overnight... One local business owner made the point (on a radio 
> program this morning) that if the prices the gas station owners pay 
> for gas do go up, they've got to replace the stock in the ground now 
> with higher priced gas...  They need to be able to cover that added 
> cost...  Having a relative who owns a gas station, I know that they 
> operate on a shoestring budget, sometimes selling
> the cheapest gas for exactly what they pay for it and making no profit
> from
> the economy grade.  Of course two callers later said that if
wholesale
> gas prices don't jump, then the gas owners need to lower their prices
$.10
> below what they're paying now to make it up to the customers...  Damn
good
> idea, but I don't think it'll happen!  :)
>
> JoeP
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:54 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America
>
>
> In my small town in western Michigan, the gas was $1.649 in the 
> morning. In the evening, it had shot to $2.00.  It's now down around 
> $1.90.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:41 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America
>
>
> Same here, except for a few stations trying to gouge the public.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:43 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America
>
>
> Not here - $1.89 just like yesterday and the day before that.
>
> -Ben-
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:22 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: God Bless America
> >
> >
> > I heard it gas up to 

RE: God Bless America (way OT)

[Lefkovics, William]

Ouch!  Now you're cutting my part?


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


ROFL
I thought to myself after I sent it. "God, I hope I remembered to cut
Williams part out"

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Barry Patterson
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


When I first saw your reply I thought you had replied to William!
Whew...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ill do it for you

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:13 AM
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*blush*  I didn't want to blow my own horn, as it were

-Michèle
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Tiggercam:  
-
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RE: God Bless America (way OT)

[Lefkovics, William]

I assured you, I said "whew" the loudest.


-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


When I first saw your reply I thought you had replied to William! Whew...


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ill do it for you

-Original Message-
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:13 AM
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Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


*blush*  I didn't want to blow my own horn, as it were

-Michèle
Immigration site:  
Our new 2001 Miata:  
Tiggercam:  
-
I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid.
-


-Original Message-
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That's because she's a minion of CJ.
A MOS +BP no less.


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RE: God Bless America (way OT)

[Martin Blackstone]

ROFL
I thought to myself after I sent it. "God, I hope I remembered to cut
Williams part out"

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Barry Patterson
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


When I first saw your reply I thought you had replied to William!
Whew...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ill do it for you

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


*blush*  I didn't want to blow my own horn, as it were

-Michèle
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-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


That's because she's a minion of CJ.
A MOS +BP no less.

> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Pochedley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:31 PM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: God Bless America (way OT)
>
> Michèle,
>
> How did you know it was my uncle who owned a gas station?  I didn't 
> say that in the original message...  Good guess, if it was indeed a 
> guess...  Are you spying on me?  :)
>
> $.10 per gallon increase isn't really price gouging...  OTOH, those 
> stations on the near east side of Cleveland that were selling gas for 
> $4.00 a gallon...  THAT's price gouging...
>
> JoeP
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:20 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)
>
>
> The Mayor of Cleveland announced that any gas station engaged in 
> "price gouging" would be shut down.
>
> I think the Cuyahoga County Commissioners agreed to do the same in the

> rest of the County.
>
> Sorry for your uncle, but "price gouging" is what it looks like to the

> average citizen
>
> -Michèle  (also in Cleveland, OH)
> Immigration site:  
> Our new 2001 Miata:  
> Tiggercam:  
> -
> "Your (sic) a crackhead" - Richard Seigel to Ed Crowley, April 2001
> -
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:08 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)
>
>
> Here in Cleveland, OH gas went from about $1.699 to $1.799 
> overnight... One local business owner made the point (on a radio 
> program this morning) that if the prices the gas station owners pay 
> for gas do go up, they've got to replace the stock in the ground now 
> with higher priced gas...  They need to be able to cover that added 
> cost...  Having a relative who owns a gas station, I know that they 
> operate on a shoestring budget, sometimes selling
> the cheapest gas for exactly what they pay for it and making no profit
> from
> the economy grade.  Of course two callers later said that if
wholesale
> gas prices don't jump, then the gas owners need to lower their prices
$.10
> below what they're paying now to make it up to the customers...  Damn
good
> idea, but I don't think it'll happen!  :)
>
> JoeP
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:54 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America
>
>
> In my small town in western Michigan, the gas was $1.649 in the 
> morning. In the evening, it had shot to $2.00.  It's now down around 
> $1.90.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:41 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America
>
>
> Same here, except for a few stations trying to gouge the public.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:43 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America
>
>
> Not here - $1.89 just like yesterday and the day before that.
>
> -Ben-
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:22 PM
> > To: Exchange D

RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed

[Kevin Miller]

You too thought that was just me?

Kevinm WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 1:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


A.D.D.?

Any question over a paragraph is too much for us. We are easily
distracted. 

What were we talking about?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


Gentleman's:
When I ask technical question, no one answers.
When I ask Off-topic questions, all the exchange guru's reply to me.

hmmm... What is the conclusion ?!


- Original Message -
From: "Mark Hanji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:23
Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


> The amount of anger and self importance you have, is amazing. How
> exactly you answered/helped?
>
> Never mind, you will never be a normal person.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Great Cthulhu Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 05:38
> Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> > Hiya, Mark! How's it going?
> >
> > 1) Reformat it at will until the client complains of you padding
> > your
> hours.
> > 2) Why not cluster it now? That way, you can reformat at least twice

> > as
> many
> > boxes at a time!
> > 3) Just to clarify, putting PC Anywhere back in the box it came in
> > is a
> good
> > idea.
> >
> > Why not make up a Q article of your own? All you have to do is get a
> regular
> > KB article and edit it to suit your needs. Bosses only read
> > printouts,
> they
> > never check web links. You'll be very safe on that one for a good
> > while, protecting your reformatting job brilliantly.
> >
> > (:=
> > Great Cthulhu Jones
> > CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
> > http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
> > http://www.bad-managers.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:22 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > 1) The server isn't production, yet.
> > 2) win2k AS, because it may need to be clustered in the future.
> > 3) I think I already said putting pcanywhere is wrong.
> >
> > So can you advice a Q to tell it is bad to have such configuration.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 14:34
> > Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > You're wrong.  You must get paid a lot to reformat production
> > servers. TS gets reinstalled whenever you add or remove a networking

> > component to Windows 2000 server[1], so you'd be reformatting your
> > server to add Print Services for Unix, because you wanted to create 
> > a print queue to a printer down the hall in Engineering.
> >
> > Now why anyone would put pcAnywhere on a server[2]... *shiver*
> > Especially when TS is available.  And why would they be spending the

> > extra money for Advanced Server if they don't have enough of a clue
> > to keep pcAnywhere off of it?[3]
> >
> > I'm stunned that you would ever recommend formatting a production
> > server because "I 'feel' it is bad".
> >
> > [1] I may be wrong, but it's often enough that it's made me wonder
> > why it keeps reinstalling. [2] 
> > http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pca.nsf/pfdocs/1996123152913
> > should fix that nicely.
> > [3] Because of the support for 8-processors and the 32-node load 
> > balancing?  RIIiiight.  Someone needs the price delta taken from

> > their paycheck.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Posted At: Sunday, September 16, 2001 4:18 AM
> > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> > Conversation: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> > Subject: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > Hello.
> >
> > Here is a "nice" issue I have:
> > Someone installed windows 2000AS, then installed Ex2000, then
> > pcanywhre, and then
> > TS in Remote Administration Mode.
> >
> > I am saying this server should be formatted, and the TS services
> > should be installed first.
> > PCanywhere should not be installed at all.
> >
> > Can someone please advic

RE: God Bless America (way OT)

[Barry Patterson]

When I first saw your reply I thought you had replied to William! Whew...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Ill do it for you

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


*blush*  I didn't want to blow my own horn, as it were

-Michèle
Immigration site:  
Our new 2001 Miata:  
Tiggercam:  
-
I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid.
-


-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


That's because she's a minion of CJ.
A MOS +BP no less.

> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Pochedley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:31 PM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: God Bless America (way OT)
>
> Michèle,
>
> How did you know it was my uncle who owned a gas station?  I didn't
> say that in the original message...  Good guess, if it was indeed a
> guess...  Are you
> spying on me?  :)
>
> $.10 per gallon increase isn't really price gouging...  OTOH, those
> stations on the near east side of Cleveland that were selling gas for
> $4.00 a gallon...  THAT's price gouging...
>
> JoeP
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:20 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)
>
>
> The Mayor of Cleveland announced that any gas station engaged in
> "price gouging" would be shut down.
>
> I think the Cuyahoga County Commissioners agreed to do the same in the

> rest of the County.
>
> Sorry for your uncle, but "price gouging" is what it looks like to the

> average citizen
>
> -Michèle  (also in Cleveland, OH)
> Immigration site:  
> Our new 2001 Miata:  
> Tiggercam:  
> -
> "Your (sic) a crackhead" - Richard Seigel to Ed Crowley, April 2001
> -
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:08 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)
>
>
> Here in Cleveland, OH gas went from about $1.699 to $1.799
> overnight... One local business owner made the point (on a radio
> program this morning) that if the prices the gas station owners pay
> for gas do go up, they've got to replace the stock in the ground now
> with higher priced gas...  They need to
> be able to cover that added cost...  Having a relative who owns a gas
> station, I know that they operate on a shoestring budget, sometimes
> selling
> the cheapest gas for exactly what they pay for it and making no profit
> from
> the economy grade.  Of course two callers later said that if
wholesale
> gas prices don't jump, then the gas owners need to lower their prices
$.10
> below what they're paying now to make it up to the customers...  Damn
good
> idea, but I don't think it'll happen!  :)
>
> JoeP
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:54 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America
>
>
> In my small town in western Michigan, the gas was $1.649 in the
> morning. In the evening, it had shot to $2.00.  It's now down around
> $1.90.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:41 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America
>
>
> Same here, except for a few stations trying to gouge the public.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:43 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America
>
>
> Not here - $1.89 just like yesterday and the day before that.
>
> -Ben-
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:22 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: God Bless America
> >
> >
> > I heard it gas up to $5/gallon in some places.
> >
> > One would think we're in Eurpoe.
> >
> > BTW, AFAIK we're still at normal gas prices here in Maryland
> > (DC/Baltimore suburbs).  And the grocery stores were, if anything,
> > less crowded than normal.
> >
> >

RE: God Bless America (way OT)

[Martin Blackstone]

Ill do it for you

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


*blush*  I didn't want to blow my own horn, as it were

-Michèle
Immigration site:  
Our new 2001 Miata:  
Tiggercam:  
-
I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid. 
-


-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


That's because she's a minion of CJ.
A MOS +BP no less.

> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Pochedley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:31 PM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: God Bless America (way OT)
> 
> Michèle,
> 
> How did you know it was my uncle who owned a gas station?  I didn't 
> say that in the original message...  Good guess, if it was indeed a 
> guess...  Are you
> spying on me?  :)
> 
> $.10 per gallon increase isn't really price gouging...  OTOH, those 
> stations on the near east side of Cleveland that were selling gas for 
> $4.00 a gallon...  THAT's price gouging...
> 
> JoeP
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:20 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)
> 
> 
> The Mayor of Cleveland announced that any gas station engaged in 
> "price gouging" would be shut down.
> 
> I think the Cuyahoga County Commissioners agreed to do the same in the

> rest of the County.
> 
> Sorry for your uncle, but "price gouging" is what it looks like to the

> average citizen
> 
> -Michèle  (also in Cleveland, OH)
> Immigration site:  
> Our new 2001 Miata:  
> Tiggercam:  
> -
> "Your (sic) a crackhead" - Richard Seigel to Ed Crowley, April 2001
> -
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:08 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)
> 
> 
> Here in Cleveland, OH gas went from about $1.699 to $1.799 
> overnight... One local business owner made the point (on a radio 
> program this morning) that if the prices the gas station owners pay 
> for gas do go up, they've got to replace the stock in the ground now 
> with higher priced gas...  They need to
> be able to cover that added cost...  Having a relative who owns a gas
> station, I know that they operate on a shoestring budget, sometimes
> selling
> the cheapest gas for exactly what they pay for it and making no profit
> from
> the economy grade.  Of course two callers later said that if
wholesale
> gas prices don't jump, then the gas owners need to lower their prices
$.10
> below what they're paying now to make it up to the customers...  Damn
good
> idea, but I don't think it'll happen!  :)
> 
> JoeP   
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:54 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America
> 
> 
> In my small town in western Michigan, the gas was $1.649 in the 
> morning. In the evening, it had shot to $2.00.  It's now down around 
> $1.90.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:41 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America
> 
> 
> Same here, except for a few stations trying to gouge the public.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:43 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America
> 
> 
> Not here - $1.89 just like yesterday and the day before that.
> 
> -Ben-
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:22 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: God Bless America
> > 
> > 
> > I heard it gas up to $5/gallon in some places.
> > 
> > One would think we're in Eurpoe.
> > 
> > BTW, AFAIK we're still at normal gas prices here in Maryland 
> > (DC/Baltimore suburbs).  And the grocery stores were, if anything, 
> > less crowded than normal.
> > 
> > M
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "John Allhiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:24 AM
> > Subject: RE: God Bless America
> > 
> > 
> > I agree, altho

RE: God Bless America (way OT)

[Lefkovics, William]

If I could do that, I'd never leave the house.


"All your Aqaeda are belong to U.S." - William

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


*blush*  I didn't want to blow my own horn, as it were

-Michèle
Immigration site:  
Our new 2001 Miata:  
Tiggercam:  
-
I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid. 
-


-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


That's because she's a minion of CJ.
A MOS +BP no less.

> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Pochedley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:31 PM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: God Bless America (way OT)
> 
> Michèle,
> 
> How did you know it was my uncle who owned a gas station?  I didn't say
> that
> in the original message...  Good guess, if it was indeed a guess...  Are
> you
> spying on me?  :)
> 
> $.10 per gallon increase isn't really price gouging...  OTOH, those
> stations
> on the near east side of Cleveland that were selling gas for $4.00 a
> gallon...  THAT's price gouging...
> 
> JoeP
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:20 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)
> 
> 
> The Mayor of Cleveland announced that any gas station engaged in "price
> gouging" would be shut down.
> 
> I think the Cuyahoga County Commissioners agreed to do the same in the
> rest
> of the County.
> 
> Sorry for your uncle, but "price gouging" is what it looks like to the
> average citizen
> 
> -Michèle  (also in Cleveland, OH)
> Immigration site:  
> Our new 2001 Miata:  
> Tiggercam:  
> -
> "Your (sic) a crackhead" - Richard Seigel to Ed Crowley, April 2001 
> -
> 
> 

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RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed

[Don Ely]

First off, TS has to be in "install mode" before you can install
anything so why not install everything and then finish it up with the TS
installation.

Second, you ARE as dumb as you look

Third, stop feeling bad, it only makes you look worse.

Fourth, why is PC Anywhere apart of this equation?  Is TS not close to
the same service if not a better one all together?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 2:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


Hello.

Here is a "nice" issue I have:
Someone installed windows 2000AS, then installed Ex2000, then pcanywhre,
and then TS in Remote Administration Mode.

I am saying this server should be formatted, and the TS services should
be installed first. PCanywhere should not be installed at all.

Can someone please advice/bring some Q's that explains that is very very
bad to install TS services AFTER installing applications. I "feel" it is
bad. I need to prove it.

Thanks!



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RE: OWA password error after NT post-SP6a SRP

[Kirsten . Petersen]

I didn't know about the other thread.  Keeping up with this list is hard.
:)  Sorry if I unintentionally offended anyone.  :(

-Original Message-
From: Eli Solow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 1:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA password error after NT post-SP6a SRP


I believe that was a small (and as it turns out, unsuccessful) attempt at
humor, in light of the recent thread debating affect vs. effect--hence the
quotes.

-Eli


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Sent: 9/17/2001 3:31 PM
> Subject: RE: OWA password error after NT post-SP6a SRP
>
> Flynn,
>
> Thanks - that's exactly what I was hoping to hear.
>
> BTW, it really is "effect", not "affect".  "Affect" as a noun refers to
> feeling, whereas "effect" refers to consequence.  Sorry to be so anal,
> but I
> have seen people on this list get flamed for less, so I just can't let
> it
> slide.  :)
>
> -Kirsten
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Flynn Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:19 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: OWA password error after NT post-SP6a SRP
>
>
> Kirsten,
>
> I had the exact same issue down to the letter.  After making the change
> to
> the root.asp, the password expiration message went away with no lasting
> side
> "affects."
>
> We were not prompted to change the password for IUSR_computername 15
> days
> later as the Technet blurb implied.
>
> Flynn
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:12 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: OWA password error after NT post-SP6a SRP
>
>
> Exchange 5.5 SP4 running OWA
> Windows NT SP6a with SRP
>
> After I installed the post-SP6a SRP on our Exchange servers yesterday,
> my
> users started getting the following pop-up when logging in to OWA:
>
> "Your current password is about to expire in 0 days.  To change your
> password, go to the Options page after you login."
>
> Aside from this confusing message, OWA works as normal.
>
> The following MS KB article seemed to describe the problem:
> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q262/9/02.asp
>
> The first reasonable-sounding suggestion was to change the password for
> the
> IUSR_computername account and reset it where needed.  I did that, but it
> had
> no effect.  I also tried creating a new account with no luck.  Finally,
> I
> went ahead and modified the root.asp file as this article describes, and
> that fixed the problem (wahoo!).
>
> However, there's a blurb at the end of this article that seems to imply
> that
> I will be asked to change the password for IUSR_computername in 15 days.
> This doesn't make any sense to me, as that user is set so that the
> password
> never expires.
>
> Has anyone dealt with this problem?  Your insights would be much
> appreciated.
>
> -Kirsten "She Who Gets All the Wierd Problems" Petersen
>
> ___
> Attend OSU Internet2 Day!  http://www.net.orst.edu/I2
> Kirsten Petersen
> Network Engineering
> Oregon State University
> 541-737-9187
>
>
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RE: Exchange virus protection and filters

[Dean Cunningham]

Do you want to do anything past AV and content filtering?
Mimesweeper is another to look at www.mimesweeper.com

-Original Message-
From: Louanne Fournier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2001 7:40 a.m.
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange virus protection and filters


We are currently using Mail Essentials and are preparing to upgrade.  Before
handing out upgrade money I have been asked to look into what other programs
might be better both in functionality and price. I am happy with Mail
Essentials but their support isn't great.  Nothing really online and not
great response by phone. I checked the archives but didn't see much there.
Can anyone let me know what they are using or what seems to be the most
functional currently?  I am looking at Scanmail but want to compare several.
Thanks.


Regards,

Louanne Fournier, MCSE, MCT
Options Software & Consulting
Voice:  905-681-2100 x 213
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RE: OWA password error after NT post-SP6a SRP

[coopere]

Haiku Monday:

Welcome to Exchange
where listites provide free help.
We are all anal.

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:31:40 -0700, "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> Flynn,
> 
> Thanks - that's exactly what I was hoping to hear.
> 
> BTW, it really is "effect", not "affect".  "Affect" as a noun refers to
> feeling, whereas "effect" refers to consequence.  Sorry to be so anal, but I
> have seen people on this list get flamed for less, so I just can't let it
> slide.  :)
> 
> -Kirsten
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Flynn Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:19 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: OWA password error after NT post-SP6a SRP
> 
> 
> Kirsten,
> 
> I had the exact same issue down to the letter.  After making the change to
> the root.asp, the password expiration message went away with no lasting side
> "affects."
> 
> We were not prompted to change the password for IUSR_computername 15 days
> later as the Technet blurb implied.
> 
> Flynn
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:12 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: OWA password error after NT post-SP6a SRP
> 
> 
> Exchange 5.5 SP4 running OWA
> Windows NT SP6a with SRP
> 
> After I installed the post-SP6a SRP on our Exchange servers yesterday, my
> users started getting the following pop-up when logging in to OWA:
> 
> "Your current password is about to expire in 0 days.  To change your
> password, go to the Options page after you login."  
> 
> Aside from this confusing message, OWA works as normal.  
> 
> The following MS KB article seemed to describe the problem:
> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q262/9/02.asp
> 
> The first reasonable-sounding suggestion was to change the password for the
> IUSR_computername account and reset it where needed.  I did that, but it had
> no effect.  I also tried creating a new account with no luck.  Finally, I
> went ahead and modified the root.asp file as this article describes, and
> that fixed the problem (wahoo!).  
> 
> However, there's a blurb at the end of this article that seems to imply that
> I will be asked to change the password for IUSR_computername in 15 days.
> This doesn't make any sense to me, as that user is set so that the password
> never expires.
> 
> Has anyone dealt with this problem?  Your insights would be much
> appreciated.
> 
> -Kirsten "She Who Gets All the Wierd Problems" Petersen
> 
> ___
> Attend OSU Internet2 Day!  http://www.net.orst.edu/I2 
> Kirsten Petersen
> Network Engineering
> Oregon State University
> 541-737-9187
> 
> 
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RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed

[Martin Blackstone]

Modified from an old Folgers commercial:
"We've taken everyone's technical questions and replaced them with silly
questions. Lets see if anyone notices"
"Sir, did you notice the responses to your questions were lame?"
"No, I didn't. I thought the responses were the same as they always are"
"Wow, that's really somethingcan I have a fish taco?"

Cow-worker looks over worriedly - "but he never asks for a second stupid
answer at work"

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Barry Patterson
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 1:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


"Why ask why..."
-Budweiser


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


Gentleman's:
When I ask technical question, no one answers.
When I ask Off-topic questions, all the exchange guru's reply to me.

hmmm... What is the conclusion ?!


- Original Message -
From: "Mark Hanji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:23
Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


> The amount of anger and self importance you have, is amazing. How 
> exactly you answered/helped?
>
> Never mind, you will never be a normal person.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Great Cthulhu Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 05:38
> Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> > Hiya, Mark! How's it going?
> >
> > 1) Reformat it at will until the client complains of you padding 
> > your
> hours.
> > 2) Why not cluster it now? That way, you can reformat at least twice

> > as
> many
> > boxes at a time!
> > 3) Just to clarify, putting PC Anywhere back in the box it came in 
> > is a
> good
> > idea.
> >
> > Why not make up a Q article of your own? All you have to do is get a
> regular
> > KB article and edit it to suit your needs. Bosses only read 
> > printouts,
> they
> > never check web links. You'll be very safe on that one for a good 
> > while, protecting your reformatting job brilliantly.
> >
> > (:=
> > Great Cthulhu Jones
> > CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
> > http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
> > http://www.bad-managers.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:22 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > 1) The server isn't production, yet.
> > 2) win2k AS, because it may need to be clustered in the future.
> > 3) I think I already said putting pcanywhere is wrong.
> >
> > So can you advice a Q to tell it is bad to have such configuration.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 14:34
> > Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > You're wrong.  You must get paid a lot to reformat production 
> > servers. TS gets reinstalled whenever you add or remove a networking

> > component to Windows 2000 server[1], so you'd be reformatting your 
> > server to add Print Services for Unix, because you wanted to create 
> > a print queue to a printer down the hall in Engineering.
> >
> > Now why anyone would put pcAnywhere on a server[2]... *shiver* 
> > Especially when TS is available.  And why would they be spending the

> > extra money for Advanced Server if they don't have enough of a clue 
> > to keep pcAnywhere off of it?[3]
> >
> > I'm stunned that you would ever recommend formatting a production 
> > server because "I 'feel' it is bad".
> >
> > [1] I may be wrong, but it's often enough that it's made me wonder 
> > why it keeps reinstalling. [2] 
> > http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pca.nsf/pfdocs/1996123152913
> > should fix that nicely.
> > [3] Because of the support for 8-processors and the 32-node load 
> > balancing?  RIIiiight.  Someone needs the price delta taken from

> > their paycheck.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Posted At: Sunday, September 16, 2001 4:18 AM
> > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> > Conversation: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> > Subject: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > Hello.
> >
> > Here is a "nice" issue I have:
> > Someone installed windows 2000AS, then installed Ex2000, then 
> > pcanywhre, and then
> > TS in Remote Administration Mode.
> >
> > I am saying this server should be formatted, and the TS services 
> > should be installed first.
> > PCanywhere should not be installed at all.
> >
> > Can

RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed

[Barry Patterson]

"Why ask why..."
-Budweiser


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


Gentleman's:
When I ask technical question, no one answers.
When I ask Off-topic questions, all the exchange guru's reply to me.

hmmm... What is the conclusion ?!


- Original Message -
From: "Mark Hanji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:23
Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


> The amount of anger and self importance you have, is amazing.
> How exactly you answered/helped?
>
> Never mind, you will never be a normal person.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Great Cthulhu Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 05:38
> Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> > Hiya, Mark! How's it going?
> >
> > 1) Reformat it at will until the client complains of you padding your
> hours.
> > 2) Why not cluster it now? That way, you can reformat at least twice as
> many
> > boxes at a time!
> > 3) Just to clarify, putting PC Anywhere back in the box it came in is a
> good
> > idea.
> >
> > Why not make up a Q article of your own? All you have to do is get a
> regular
> > KB article and edit it to suit your needs. Bosses only read printouts,
> they
> > never check web links. You'll be very safe on that one for a good while,
> > protecting your reformatting job brilliantly.
> >
> > (:=
> > Great Cthulhu Jones
> > CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
> > http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
> > http://www.bad-managers.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:22 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > 1) The server isn't production, yet.
> > 2) win2k AS, because it may need to be clustered in the future.
> > 3) I think I already said putting pcanywhere is wrong.
> >
> > So can you advice a Q to tell it is bad to have such configuration.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 14:34
> > Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > You're wrong.  You must get paid a lot to reformat production servers.
> > TS gets reinstalled whenever you add or remove a networking component to
> > Windows 2000 server[1], so you'd be reformatting your server to add
> > Print Services for Unix, because you wanted to create a print queue to a
> > printer down the hall in Engineering.
> >
> > Now why anyone would put pcAnywhere on a server[2]... *shiver*
> > Especially when TS is available.  And why would they be spending the
> > extra money for Advanced Server if they don't have enough of a clue to
> > keep pcAnywhere off of it?[3]
> >
> > I'm stunned that you would ever recommend formatting a production server
> > because "I 'feel' it is bad".
> >
> > [1] I may be wrong, but it's often enough that it's made me wonder why
> > it keeps reinstalling.
> > [2] http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pca.nsf/pfdocs/1996123152913
> > should fix that nicely.
> > [3] Because of the support for 8-processors and the 32-node load
> > balancing?  RIIiiight.  Someone needs the price delta taken from
> > their paycheck.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Posted At: Sunday, September 16, 2001 4:18 AM
> > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> > Conversation: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> > Subject: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > Hello.
> >
> > Here is a "nice" issue I have:
> > Someone installed windows 2000AS, then installed Ex2000, then pcanywhre,
> > and
> > then
> > TS in Remote Administration Mode.
> >
> > I am saying this server should be formatted, and the TS services should
> > be
> > installed first.
> > PCanywhere should not be installed at all.
> >
> > Can someone please advice/bring some Q's that explains that is very very
> > bad
> > to install
> > TS services AFTER installing applications.
> > I "feel" it is bad. I need to prove it.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
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RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed

[Tom Meunier]

Was the technical discussion, "The merits of FDISK as a
diagnostic/repair utility?"  Or was that the off-topic one?  Your
recommendation to your customer had no technical merit, and was
logically indefensible.  You were asking for a logical defense of it.

Learn to troubleshoot, and keep the guesswork mumbo-jumbo for Madame
Cleo the Tarot Card Reader.
http://www.troubleshooters.com/tuni.htm#top

> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Monday, September 17, 2001 04:34 PM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> 
> 
> Gentleman's:
> When I ask technical question, no one answers.
> When I ask Off-topic questions, all the exchange guru's reply to me.
> 
> hmmm... What is the conclusion ?!
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mark Hanji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:23
> Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> 
> 
> > The amount of anger and self importance you have, is amazing.
> > How exactly you answered/helped?
> >
> > Never mind, you will never be a normal person.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Great Cthulhu Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 05:38
> > Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > > Hiya, Mark! How's it going?
> > >
> > > 1) Reformat it at will until the client complains of you 
> padding your
> > hours.
> > > 2) Why not cluster it now? That way, you can reformat at 
> least twice as
> > many
> > > boxes at a time!
> > > 3) Just to clarify, putting PC Anywhere back in the box 
> it came in is a
> > good
> > > idea.
> > >
> > > Why not make up a Q article of your own? All you have to 
> do is get a
> > regular
> > > KB article and edit it to suit your needs. Bosses only 
> read printouts,
> > they
> > > never check web links. You'll be very safe on that one 
> for a good while,
> > > protecting your reformatting job brilliantly.
> > >
> > > (:=
> > > Great Cthulhu Jones
> > > CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
> > > http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
> > > http://www.bad-managers.com
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
> Mark Hanji
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:22 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > 1) The server isn't production, yet.
> > > 2) win2k AS, because it may need to be clustered in the future.
> > > 3) I think I already said putting pcanywhere is wrong.
> > >
> > > So can you advice a Q to tell it is bad to have such 
> configuration.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 14:34
> > > Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> > >
> > >
> > > You're wrong.  You must get paid a lot to reformat 
> production servers.
> > > TS gets reinstalled whenever you add or remove a 
> networking component to
> > > Windows 2000 server[1], so you'd be reformatting your 
> server to add
> > > Print Services for Unix, because you wanted to create a 
> print queue to a
> > > printer down the hall in Engineering.
> > >
> > > Now why anyone would put pcAnywhere on a server[2]... *shiver*
> > > Especially when TS is available.  And why would they be 
> spending the
> > > extra money for Advanced Server if they don't have enough 
> of a clue to
> > > keep pcAnywhere off of it?[3]
> > >
> > > I'm stunned that you would ever recommend formatting a 
> production server
> > > because "I 'feel' it is bad".
> > >
> > > [1] I may be wrong, but it's often enough that it's made 
> me wonder why
> > > it keeps reinstalling.
> > > [2] 
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pca.nsf/pfdocs/1996123152913
> > > should fix that nicely.
> > > [3] Because of the support for 8-processors and the 32-node load
> > > balancing?  RIIiiight.  Someone needs the price delta 
> taken from
> > > their paycheck.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Posted At: Sunday, September 16, 2001 4:18 AM
> > > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> > > Conversation: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> > > Subject: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello.
> > >
> > > Here is a "nice" issue I have:
> > > Someone installed windows 2000AS, then installed Ex2000, 
> then pcanywhre,
> > > and
> > > then
> > > TS in Remote Administration Mode.
> > >
> > > I am saying this server should be formatted, and the TS 
> services should
> > > be
> > > installed first.
> > > PCanywhere should not be installed at a

RE: OWA password error after NT post-SP6a SRP

[Eli Solow]

I believe that was a small (and as it turns out, unsuccessful) attempt at
humor, in light of the recent thread debating affect vs. effect--hence the
quotes.

-Eli


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Sent: 9/17/2001 3:31 PM
> Subject: RE: OWA password error after NT post-SP6a SRP
>
> Flynn,
>
> Thanks - that's exactly what I was hoping to hear.
>
> BTW, it really is "effect", not "affect".  "Affect" as a noun refers to
> feeling, whereas "effect" refers to consequence.  Sorry to be so anal,
> but I
> have seen people on this list get flamed for less, so I just can't let
> it
> slide.  :)
>
> -Kirsten
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Flynn Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:19 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: OWA password error after NT post-SP6a SRP
>
>
> Kirsten,
>
> I had the exact same issue down to the letter.  After making the change
> to
> the root.asp, the password expiration message went away with no lasting
> side
> "affects."
>
> We were not prompted to change the password for IUSR_computername 15
> days
> later as the Technet blurb implied.
>
> Flynn
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:12 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: OWA password error after NT post-SP6a SRP
>
>
> Exchange 5.5 SP4 running OWA
> Windows NT SP6a with SRP
>
> After I installed the post-SP6a SRP on our Exchange servers yesterday,
> my
> users started getting the following pop-up when logging in to OWA:
>
> "Your current password is about to expire in 0 days.  To change your
> password, go to the Options page after you login."
>
> Aside from this confusing message, OWA works as normal.
>
> The following MS KB article seemed to describe the problem:
> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q262/9/02.asp
>
> The first reasonable-sounding suggestion was to change the password for
> the
> IUSR_computername account and reset it where needed.  I did that, but it
> had
> no effect.  I also tried creating a new account with no luck.  Finally,
> I
> went ahead and modified the root.asp file as this article describes, and
> that fixed the problem (wahoo!).
>
> However, there's a blurb at the end of this article that seems to imply
> that
> I will be asked to change the password for IUSR_computername in 15 days.
> This doesn't make any sense to me, as that user is set so that the
> password
> never expires.
>
> Has anyone dealt with this problem?  Your insights would be much
> appreciated.
>
> -Kirsten "She Who Gets All the Wierd Problems" Petersen
>
> ___
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> 541-737-9187
>
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RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed

[Martin Blackstone]

A.D.D.?

Any question over a paragraph is too much for us. We are easily
distracted. 

What were we talking about?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


Gentleman's:
When I ask technical question, no one answers.
When I ask Off-topic questions, all the exchange guru's reply to me.

hmmm... What is the conclusion ?!


- Original Message -
From: "Mark Hanji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:23
Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


> The amount of anger and self importance you have, is amazing. How 
> exactly you answered/helped?
>
> Never mind, you will never be a normal person.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Great Cthulhu Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 05:38
> Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> > Hiya, Mark! How's it going?
> >
> > 1) Reformat it at will until the client complains of you padding 
> > your
> hours.
> > 2) Why not cluster it now? That way, you can reformat at least twice

> > as
> many
> > boxes at a time!
> > 3) Just to clarify, putting PC Anywhere back in the box it came in 
> > is a
> good
> > idea.
> >
> > Why not make up a Q article of your own? All you have to do is get a
> regular
> > KB article and edit it to suit your needs. Bosses only read 
> > printouts,
> they
> > never check web links. You'll be very safe on that one for a good 
> > while, protecting your reformatting job brilliantly.
> >
> > (:=
> > Great Cthulhu Jones
> > CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
> > http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
> > http://www.bad-managers.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:22 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > 1) The server isn't production, yet.
> > 2) win2k AS, because it may need to be clustered in the future.
> > 3) I think I already said putting pcanywhere is wrong.
> >
> > So can you advice a Q to tell it is bad to have such configuration.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 14:34
> > Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > You're wrong.  You must get paid a lot to reformat production 
> > servers. TS gets reinstalled whenever you add or remove a networking

> > component to Windows 2000 server[1], so you'd be reformatting your 
> > server to add Print Services for Unix, because you wanted to create 
> > a print queue to a printer down the hall in Engineering.
> >
> > Now why anyone would put pcAnywhere on a server[2]... *shiver* 
> > Especially when TS is available.  And why would they be spending the

> > extra money for Advanced Server if they don't have enough of a clue 
> > to keep pcAnywhere off of it?[3]
> >
> > I'm stunned that you would ever recommend formatting a production 
> > server because "I 'feel' it is bad".
> >
> > [1] I may be wrong, but it's often enough that it's made me wonder 
> > why it keeps reinstalling. [2] 
> > http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pca.nsf/pfdocs/1996123152913
> > should fix that nicely.
> > [3] Because of the support for 8-processors and the 32-node load 
> > balancing?  RIIiiight.  Someone needs the price delta taken from

> > their paycheck.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Posted At: Sunday, September 16, 2001 4:18 AM
> > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> > Conversation: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> > Subject: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > Hello.
> >
> > Here is a "nice" issue I have:
> > Someone installed windows 2000AS, then installed Ex2000, then 
> > pcanywhre, and then
> > TS in Remote Administration Mode.
> >
> > I am saying this server should be formatted, and the TS services 
> > should be installed first.
> > PCanywhere should not be installed at all.
> >
> > Can someone please advice/bring some Q's that explains that is very 
> > very bad to install
> > TS services AFTER installing applications.
> > I "feel" it is bad. I need to prove it.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed

[Mark Hanji]

Gentleman's:
When I ask technical question, no one answers.
When I ask Off-topic questions, all the exchange guru's reply to me.

hmmm... What is the conclusion ?!


- Original Message -
From: "Mark Hanji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:23
Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


> The amount of anger and self importance you have, is amazing.
> How exactly you answered/helped?
>
> Never mind, you will never be a normal person.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Great Cthulhu Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 05:38
> Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> > Hiya, Mark! How's it going?
> >
> > 1) Reformat it at will until the client complains of you padding your
> hours.
> > 2) Why not cluster it now? That way, you can reformat at least twice as
> many
> > boxes at a time!
> > 3) Just to clarify, putting PC Anywhere back in the box it came in is a
> good
> > idea.
> >
> > Why not make up a Q article of your own? All you have to do is get a
> regular
> > KB article and edit it to suit your needs. Bosses only read printouts,
> they
> > never check web links. You'll be very safe on that one for a good while,
> > protecting your reformatting job brilliantly.
> >
> > (:=
> > Great Cthulhu Jones
> > CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
> > http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
> > http://www.bad-managers.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:22 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > Hi.
> >
> > 1) The server isn't production, yet.
> > 2) win2k AS, because it may need to be clustered in the future.
> > 3) I think I already said putting pcanywhere is wrong.
> >
> > So can you advice a Q to tell it is bad to have such configuration.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 14:34
> > Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > You're wrong.  You must get paid a lot to reformat production servers.
> > TS gets reinstalled whenever you add or remove a networking component to
> > Windows 2000 server[1], so you'd be reformatting your server to add
> > Print Services for Unix, because you wanted to create a print queue to a
> > printer down the hall in Engineering.
> >
> > Now why anyone would put pcAnywhere on a server[2]... *shiver*
> > Especially when TS is available.  And why would they be spending the
> > extra money for Advanced Server if they don't have enough of a clue to
> > keep pcAnywhere off of it?[3]
> >
> > I'm stunned that you would ever recommend formatting a production server
> > because "I 'feel' it is bad".
> >
> > [1] I may be wrong, but it's often enough that it's made me wonder why
> > it keeps reinstalling.
> > [2] http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pca.nsf/pfdocs/1996123152913
> > should fix that nicely.
> > [3] Because of the support for 8-processors and the 32-node load
> > balancing?  RIIiiight.  Someone needs the price delta taken from
> > their paycheck.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Posted At: Sunday, September 16, 2001 4:18 AM
> > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> > Conversation: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> > Subject: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> >
> >
> > Hello.
> >
> > Here is a "nice" issue I have:
> > Someone installed windows 2000AS, then installed Ex2000, then pcanywhre,
> > and
> > then
> > TS in Remote Administration Mode.
> >
> > I am saying this server should be formatted, and the TS services should
> > be
> > installed first.
> > PCanywhere should not be installed at all.
> >
> > Can someone please advice/bring some Q's that explains that is very very
> > bad
> > to install
> > TS services AFTER installing applications.
> > I "feel" it is bad. I need to prove it.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
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RE: OWA password error after NT post-SP6a SRP

[Kirsten . Petersen]

Flynn,

Thanks - that's exactly what I was hoping to hear.

BTW, it really is "effect", not "affect".  "Affect" as a noun refers to
feeling, whereas "effect" refers to consequence.  Sorry to be so anal, but I
have seen people on this list get flamed for less, so I just can't let it
slide.  :)

-Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: Flynn Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA password error after NT post-SP6a SRP


Kirsten,

I had the exact same issue down to the letter.  After making the change to
the root.asp, the password expiration message went away with no lasting side
"affects."

We were not prompted to change the password for IUSR_computername 15 days
later as the Technet blurb implied.

Flynn

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA password error after NT post-SP6a SRP


Exchange 5.5 SP4 running OWA
Windows NT SP6a with SRP

After I installed the post-SP6a SRP on our Exchange servers yesterday, my
users started getting the following pop-up when logging in to OWA:

"Your current password is about to expire in 0 days.  To change your
password, go to the Options page after you login."  

Aside from this confusing message, OWA works as normal.  

The following MS KB article seemed to describe the problem:
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q262/9/02.asp

The first reasonable-sounding suggestion was to change the password for the
IUSR_computername account and reset it where needed.  I did that, but it had
no effect.  I also tried creating a new account with no luck.  Finally, I
went ahead and modified the root.asp file as this article describes, and
that fixed the problem (wahoo!).  

However, there's a blurb at the end of this article that seems to imply that
I will be asked to change the password for IUSR_computername in 15 days.
This doesn't make any sense to me, as that user is set so that the password
never expires.

Has anyone dealt with this problem?  Your insights would be much
appreciated.

-Kirsten "She Who Gets All the Wierd Problems" Petersen

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RE: Exchange virus protection and filters

[Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville]

Trend's whole virus suite, is excellent.  We use Scanmail 3.6 on all of our
Exchange server's and Notes server's.  Additionally, we use TVCS and the
Internet Virus Wall and Emanager.  Trend's support staff is pretty
knowledgeable and helpful.  There online support is hit or miss.  The
pattern files are always released in a timely fashion, usually before all
other Antivirus products release their's.  YMMV.

Matthew
Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today!
http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp

"Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for
Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)..." Jim Schwartz
8-16-01


>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Louanne Fournier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:40 PM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: Exchange virus protection and filters
>>>
>>>
>>>We are currently using Mail Essentials and are preparing to 
>>>upgrade.  Before
>>>handing out upgrade money I have been asked to look into 
>>>what other programs
>>>might be better both in functionality and price. I am happy with Mail
>>>Essentials but their support isn't great.  Nothing really 
>>>online and not
>>>great response by phone. I checked the archives but didn't 
>>>see much there.
>>>Can anyone let me know what they are using or what seems to 
>>>be the most
>>>functional currently?  I am looking at Scanmail but want to 
>>>compare several.
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Louanne Fournier, MCSE, MCT
>>>Options Software & Consulting
>>>Voice:   905-681-2100 x 213
>>>Email:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>For more information visit http://www.mailessentials.com
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RE: Exchange virus protection and filters

[Soysal, Serdar]

http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_sec4.htm
FAQ 4.6

-Original Message-
From: Louanne Fournier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange virus protection and filters


We are currently using Mail Essentials and are preparing to upgrade.  Before
handing out upgrade money I have been asked to look into what other programs
might be better both in functionality and price. I am happy with Mail
Essentials but their support isn't great.  Nothing really online and not
great response by phone. I checked the archives but didn't see much there.
Can anyone let me know what they are using or what seems to be the most
functional currently?  I am looking at Scanmail but want to compare several.
Thanks.


Regards,

Louanne Fournier, MCSE, MCT
Options Software & Consulting
Voice:  905-681-2100 x 213
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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RE: Exchange server fails after restore

[coopere]

Check the Application Log for clues.

Eric

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:04:43 +0200, "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> Hello
> 
> My exchange server crashed. I built another one with the same and
> organization and restored the exchange database from backup. Now the MTA
> will not start. ISINTEG completes but ESUTIL hangs.
> 
> What should I do?
> 
> Thank You,
> 
> Lucia
> 
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RE: Exchange virus protection and filters

[Seitz, Peter]

Trend ScanMail Rocks.

-Original Message-
From: Louanne Fournier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange virus protection and filters


We are currently using Mail Essentials and are preparing to upgrade.  Before
handing out upgrade money I have been asked to look into what other programs
might be better both in functionality and price. I am happy with Mail
Essentials but their support isn't great.  Nothing really online and not
great response by phone. I checked the archives but didn't see much there.
Can anyone let me know what they are using or what seems to be the most
functional currently?  I am looking at Scanmail but want to compare several.
Thanks.


Regards,

Louanne Fournier, MCSE, MCT
Options Software & Consulting
Voice:  905-681-2100 x 213
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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RE: Two organisations

[Lefkovics, William]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

But here is good, too.

William

All your Aqaeda are belong to US.

-Original Message-
From: Milt Atkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Two organisations


Is there a discussion group dedicated only to Exchange 2000? and if there 
is, might someone give me some insight as to where it is ... like the 
listname.

Thanks


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Exchange virus protection and filters

[Louanne Fournier]

We are currently using Mail Essentials and are preparing to upgrade.  Before
handing out upgrade money I have been asked to look into what other programs
might be better both in functionality and price. I am happy with Mail
Essentials but their support isn't great.  Nothing really online and not
great response by phone. I checked the archives but didn't see much there.
Can anyone let me know what they are using or what seems to be the most
functional currently?  I am looking at Scanmail but want to compare several.
Thanks.


Regards,

Louanne Fournier, MCSE, MCT
Options Software & Consulting
Voice:  905-681-2100 x 213
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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RE: Two organisations

[Milt Atkinson]

Is there a discussion group dedicated only to Exchange 2000? and if there 
is, might someone give me some insight as to where it is ... like the 
listname.

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RE: How do I change default Domain password when creating an account with Exchange?

[coopere]

Is there another answer to this?  I'm curious because in my old environment there were 
2 methods for creating mailboxes and accounts.  On the central domain, we used User 
Manager for Domains to create accounts and Exchange Admin Tool for mailboxes (stupid 
secondary proxy addresses).  For trusted domains, we used Exchange Admin tool from our 
desktops.  This made accounts with passwords identical to the User ID.  For untrusted 
domains, we used PCAnywhere and Exchange Admin Tool (on the Exchange server).  For 
some domains this created a blank password, for others the password was identical to 
the User ID (at least 4 chars - with trailing "x"s for IDs less than 4 chars).  I 
tried to figure out where this was configured, but couldn't find it.  We didn't do 
anything that I'm aware of, and because I'm just anal when it comes to work it really 
bugged me.

Eric

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:55:59 -0700, "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> Write your own account creation script that does it the way you want.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> All your base are belong to us.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Phil Labonte
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:18 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: How do I change default Domain password when creating an
> account with Exchange?
> 
> 
> I am using Exchange 5.5 SP4 and Windows NT4 SP6.
> 
> When I create a new user using the Exchange Administrator and I select a
> "New Windows NT Account" it creates the username on the domain with a blank
> password.  I would like to change that.  Any thoughts?
> 
> Thanks
> 
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RE: OWA password error after NT post-SP6a SRP

[Flynn Hansen]

Kirsten,

I had the exact same issue down to the letter.  After making the change to
the root.asp, the password expiration message went away with no lasting side
"affects."

We were not prompted to change the password for IUSR_computername 15 days
later as the Technet blurb implied.

Flynn

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA password error after NT post-SP6a SRP


Exchange 5.5 SP4 running OWA
Windows NT SP6a with SRP

After I installed the post-SP6a SRP on our Exchange servers yesterday, my
users started getting the following pop-up when logging in to OWA:

"Your current password is about to expire in 0 days.  To change your
password, go to the Options page after you login."  

Aside from this confusing message, OWA works as normal.  

The following MS KB article seemed to describe the problem:
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q262/9/02.asp

The first reasonable-sounding suggestion was to change the password for the
IUSR_computername account and reset it where needed.  I did that, but it had
no effect.  I also tried creating a new account with no luck.  Finally, I
went ahead and modified the root.asp file as this article describes, and
that fixed the problem (wahoo!).  

However, there's a blurb at the end of this article that seems to imply that
I will be asked to change the password for IUSR_computername in 15 days.
This doesn't make any sense to me, as that user is set so that the password
never expires.

Has anyone dealt with this problem?  Your insights would be much
appreciated.

-Kirsten "She Who Gets All the Wierd Problems" Petersen

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RE: Duplicate Inboxes

[coopere]

derp.  good point.  Multiple MAPI profiles doesn't work regardless of the situation.  
In past instances of Outlook, you could add multiple instances of the same mailbox in 
the Advanced/Open Additional Mailboxes, correct?  Back in the day I could have sworn I 
tested this with the Postmaster mailbox.  Sorry for the misinfo.

Eric

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:34:37 -0400, "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> If he has two instances of that, his profile is really screwed up...
> 
> 
> 
> Andy David 
> J Muller International
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 02:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Duplicate Inboxes
> 
> 
> Go to Tools/Services.  Are there 2 instances of "Microsoft Exchange Server"
> listed?  If so, delete one.
> 
> Eric
> 
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:35:26 -0500, "Exchange Discussions"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Good morning all,
> > 
> > My problem is that when I open my E2k mailbox in Outlook 2000, I get my my
> > inbox two times.  Has anyone ever seen this problem?  It's only happening
> > with my specific mailbox.
> > 
> > TIA,
> > Brent Wells
> > Network Specialist
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
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RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent

[Jim Helfer]

 
  Theatre is Art
  Film is Entertainment
  Television is Furniture

 (sorry)

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent


but if it is Broadway then "movies" would potentially be incorrect.

next it's potato or Poet-a-toe

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent


Can't you just say "movies" and be done with it?  (hehe)

So you say it thee-uh-ter?  

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

 -Original Message-
From:   Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Monday, September 17, 2001 2:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent

My wife says Theee-A-Ter. Not theatre. Drives me nuts.

> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Annoying in the extreme:  "Nuke-yoo-lar"
> Double over in pain & fear for one's country: Hearing people who can 
> deploy them say it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Perley-TM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:48 AM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> Importance: Low
> 
> 
> While we are on the subject it's really been bugging me recently
about:
>   then & than
>   and
>   effect & affect.
> 
> Scott
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:30 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Augh!
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> All your base are belong to us.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lynne July
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:26 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> What about loose and lose?  Another favorite  :-)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Also mix up there, they're and their.  Throw in a few misplaced 
> apostrophes and I'll have a stroke!
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> All your base are belong to us.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Osborn, Joel
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:20 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Yeah. To get Ed's attention, use all caps.
> 
> In the subject and in the message text.
> 
> Unless. of course, you want a useful reply. In that case, DON'T 
> SHOUT.[1]
> 
> ...Joel
> 
> [1]Actually, we haven't see all caps shouting on this list for some 
> time. It's been quite nice.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> You're welcome, but I'm still not springing into action because of an 
> "urgent" request.  And don't try that exclamation point button, 
> either.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> All your base are belong to us.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nathan Boyd
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Ed, I have only recently built our Exchange 2000 server and appreciate

> any help I can get while I learn.
> 
> I do know a fair bit about others systems and having answered forum 
> questions for many people in lists before I stick to these rules;  If 
> people are polite, I know the answer and have the time I will help.
> 
> In terms of forum eticate I read books and postings before I submit a 
> question.  If a system is down I will call Microsoft and spend the 
> $245.
> 
> Thanks for the lesson.
> 
> Nathan
> 
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RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent

[Roger Seielstad]

THEE-ate-er is about as bad as DEE-troit

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:57 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Can't you just say "movies" and be done with it?  (hehe)
> 
> So you say it thee-uh-ter?  
> 
> Ben Winzenz, MCSE
> Network/Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems, Inc.
> 
>  -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:41 PM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> My wife says Theee-A-Ter. Not theatre. Drives me nuts.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:52 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> > 
> > 
> > Annoying in the extreme:  "Nuke-yoo-lar"
> > Double over in pain & fear for one's country: Hearing 
> people who can 
> > deploy them say it.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scott Perley-TM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Posted At: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:48 AM
> > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> > Conversation: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> > Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> > Importance: Low
> > 
> > 
> > While we are on the subject it's really been bugging me recently
> about:
> > then & than
> > and
> > effect & affect.
> > 
> > Scott
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:30 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> > 
> > 
> > Augh!
> > 
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> > Tech Consultant
> > Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> > All your base are belong to us.
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lynne July
> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:26 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> > 
> > 
> > What about loose and lose?  Another favorite  :-)
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:12 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> > 
> > 
> > Also mix up there, they're and their.  Throw in a few misplaced 
> > apostrophes and I'll have a stroke!
> > 
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> > Tech Consultant
> > Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> > All your base are belong to us.
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Osborn, Joel
> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:20 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> > 
> > 
> > Yeah. To get Ed's attention, use all caps.
> > 
> > In the subject and in the message text.
> > 
> > Unless. of course, you want a useful reply. In that case, DON'T 
> > SHOUT.[1]
> > 
> > ...Joel
> > 
> > [1]Actually, we haven't see all caps shouting on this list for some 
> > time. It's been quite nice.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:14 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> > 
> > 
> > You're welcome, but I'm still not springing into action 
> because of an 
> > "urgent" request.  And don't try that exclamation point button, 
> > either.
> > 
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> > Tech Consultant
> > Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> > All your base are belong to us.
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nathan Boyd
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:34 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> > 
> > 
> > Ed, I have only recently built our Exchange 2000 server and 
> appreciate
> 
> > any help I can get while I learn.
> > 
> > I do know a fair bit about others systems and having answered forum 
> > questions for many people in lists before I stick to these 
> rules;  If 
> > people are polite, I know the answer and have the time I will help.
> > 
> > In terms of forum eticate I read books and postings before 
> I submit a 
> > question.  If a system is down I will call Microsoft and spend the 
> > $245.
> > 
> > Thanks for the lesson.
> > 
> > Nathan
> > 
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RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent

[Mellott, Bill]

but if it is Broadway then "movies" would potentially be incorrect.

next it's potato or Poet-a-toe

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent


Can't you just say "movies" and be done with it?  (hehe)

So you say it thee-uh-ter?  

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

 -Original Message-
From:   Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Monday, September 17, 2001 2:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent

My wife says Theee-A-Ter. Not theatre. Drives me nuts.

> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Annoying in the extreme:  "Nuke-yoo-lar"
> Double over in pain & fear for one's country: Hearing people who can 
> deploy them say it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Perley-TM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:48 AM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> Importance: Low
> 
> 
> While we are on the subject it's really been bugging me recently
about:
>   then & than
>   and
>   effect & affect.
> 
> Scott
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:30 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Augh!
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> All your base are belong to us.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lynne July
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:26 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> What about loose and lose?  Another favorite  :-)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Also mix up there, they're and their.  Throw in a few misplaced 
> apostrophes and I'll have a stroke!
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> All your base are belong to us.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Osborn, Joel
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:20 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Yeah. To get Ed's attention, use all caps.
> 
> In the subject and in the message text.
> 
> Unless. of course, you want a useful reply. In that case, DON'T 
> SHOUT.[1]
> 
> ...Joel
> 
> [1]Actually, we haven't see all caps shouting on this list for some 
> time. It's been quite nice.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> You're welcome, but I'm still not springing into action because of an 
> "urgent" request.  And don't try that exclamation point button, 
> either.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> All your base are belong to us.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nathan Boyd
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Ed, I have only recently built our Exchange 2000 server and appreciate

> any help I can get while I learn.
> 
> I do know a fair bit about others systems and having answered forum 
> questions for many people in lists before I stick to these rules;  If 
> people are polite, I know the answer and have the time I will help.
> 
> In terms of forum eticate I read books and postings before I submit a 
> question.  If a system is down I will call Microsoft and spend the 
> $245.
> 
> Thanks for the lesson.
> 
> Nathan
> 
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OWA password error after NT post-SP6a SRP

[Kirsten . Petersen]

Exchange 5.5 SP4 running OWA
Windows NT SP6a with SRP

After I installed the post-SP6a SRP on our Exchange servers yesterday, my
users started getting the following pop-up when logging in to OWA:

"Your current password is about to expire in 0 days.  To change your
password, go to the Options page after you login."  

Aside from this confusing message, OWA works as normal.  

The following MS KB article seemed to describe the problem:
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q262/9/02.asp

The first reasonable-sounding suggestion was to change the password for the
IUSR_computername account and reset it where needed.  I did that, but it had
no effect.  I also tried creating a new account with no luck.  Finally, I
went ahead and modified the root.asp file as this article describes, and
that fixed the problem (wahoo!).  

However, there's a blurb at the end of this article that seems to imply that
I will be asked to change the password for IUSR_computername in 15 days.
This doesn't make any sense to me, as that user is set so that the password
never expires.

Has anyone dealt with this problem?  Your insights would be much
appreciated.

-Kirsten "She Who Gets All the Wierd Problems" Petersen

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RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent

[Benjamin Winzenz]

Can't you just say "movies" and be done with it?  (hehe)

So you say it thee-uh-ter?  

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

 -Original Message-
From:   Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Monday, September 17, 2001 2:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent

My wife says Theee-A-Ter. Not theatre. Drives me nuts.

> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Annoying in the extreme:  "Nuke-yoo-lar"
> Double over in pain & fear for one's country: Hearing people who can 
> deploy them say it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Perley-TM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:48 AM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> Importance: Low
> 
> 
> While we are on the subject it's really been bugging me recently
about:
>   then & than
>   and
>   effect & affect.
> 
> Scott
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:30 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Augh!
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> All your base are belong to us.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lynne July
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:26 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> What about loose and lose?  Another favorite  :-)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Also mix up there, they're and their.  Throw in a few misplaced 
> apostrophes and I'll have a stroke!
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> All your base are belong to us.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Osborn, Joel
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:20 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Yeah. To get Ed's attention, use all caps.
> 
> In the subject and in the message text.
> 
> Unless. of course, you want a useful reply. In that case, DON'T 
> SHOUT.[1]
> 
> ...Joel
> 
> [1]Actually, we haven't see all caps shouting on this list for some 
> time. It's been quite nice.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> You're welcome, but I'm still not springing into action because of an 
> "urgent" request.  And don't try that exclamation point button, 
> either.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> All your base are belong to us.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nathan Boyd
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Ed, I have only recently built our Exchange 2000 server and appreciate

> any help I can get while I learn.
> 
> I do know a fair bit about others systems and having answered forum 
> questions for many people in lists before I stick to these rules;  If 
> people are polite, I know the answer and have the time I will help.
> 
> In terms of forum eticate I read books and postings before I submit a 
> question.  If a system is down I will call Microsoft and spend the 
> $245.
> 
> Thanks for the lesson.
> 
> Nathan
> 
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RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent

[Martin Blackstone]

My wife says Theee-A-Ter. Not theatre. Drives me nuts.

> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Annoying in the extreme:  "Nuke-yoo-lar"
> Double over in pain & fear for one's country: Hearing people who can 
> deploy them say it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Perley-TM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:48 AM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> Importance: Low
> 
> 
> While we are on the subject it's really been bugging me recently
about:
>   then & than
>   and
>   effect & affect.
> 
> Scott
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:30 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Augh!
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> All your base are belong to us.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lynne July
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:26 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> What about loose and lose?  Another favorite  :-)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Also mix up there, they're and their.  Throw in a few misplaced 
> apostrophes and I'll have a stroke!
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> All your base are belong to us.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Osborn, Joel
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:20 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Yeah. To get Ed's attention, use all caps.
> 
> In the subject and in the message text.
> 
> Unless. of course, you want a useful reply. In that case, DON'T 
> SHOUT.[1]
> 
> ...Joel
> 
> [1]Actually, we haven't see all caps shouting on this list for some 
> time. It's been quite nice.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> You're welcome, but I'm still not springing into action because of an 
> "urgent" request.  And don't try that exclamation point button, 
> either.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> All your base are belong to us.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nathan Boyd
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Ed, I have only recently built our Exchange 2000 server and appreciate

> any help I can get while I learn.
> 
> I do know a fair bit about others systems and having answered forum 
> questions for many people in lists before I stick to these rules;  If 
> people are polite, I know the answer and have the time I will help.
> 
> In terms of forum eticate I read books and postings before I submit a 
> question.  If a system is down I will call Microsoft and spend the 
> $245.
> 
> Thanks for the lesson.
> 
> Nathan
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RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent

[coopere]

"whinning"

'nuff said

Eric

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:41:16 -0400, "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> ARGH!!  that's high on my list of pet peeves!!
> 
> -Michèle
> Immigration site:  
> Our new 2001 Miata:  
> Tiggercam:  
> -
> All generalizations are false. 
> -
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Annoying in the extreme:  "Nuke-yoo-lar"
> Double over in pain & fear for one's country: Hearing people who can
> deploy them say it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Perley-TM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:48 AM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> Importance: Low
> 
> 
> While we are on the subject it's really been bugging me recently about:
>   then & than
>   and
>   effect & affect.
> 
> Scott
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:30 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Augh!
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> All your base are belong to us.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lynne July
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:26 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> What about loose and lose?  Another favorite  :-)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Also mix up there, they're and their.  Throw in a few misplaced
> apostrophes
> and I'll have a stroke!
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> All your base are belong to us.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Osborn, Joel
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:20 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Yeah. To get Ed's attention, use all caps.
> 
> In the subject and in the message text.
> 
> Unless. of course, you want a useful reply. In that case, DON'T
> SHOUT.[1]
> 
> ...Joel
> 
> [1]Actually, we haven't see all caps shouting on this list for some
> time.
> It's been quite nice.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> You're welcome, but I'm still not springing into action because of an
> "urgent" request.  And don't try that exclamation point button, either.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> All your base are belong to us.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nathan Boyd
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent
> 
> 
> Ed, I have only recently built our Exchange 2000 server and appreciate
> any
> help I can get while I learn.
> 
> I do know a fair bit about others systems and having answered forum
> questions for many people in lists before I stick to these rules;  If
> people are polite, I know the answer and have the time I will help.
> 
> In terms of forum eticate I read books and postings before I submit a
> question.  If a system is down I will call Microsoft and spend the $245.
> 
> Thanks for the lesson.
> 
> Nathan
> 
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RE: Duplicate Inboxes

[Andy David]

If he has two instances of that, his profile is really screwed up...



Andy David 
J Muller International




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 02:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Duplicate Inboxes


Go to Tools/Services.  Are there 2 instances of "Microsoft Exchange Server"
listed?  If so, delete one.

Eric

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:35:26 -0500, "Exchange Discussions"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Good morning all,
> 
> My problem is that when I open my E2k mailbox in Outlook 2000, I get my my
> inbox two times.  Has anyone ever seen this problem?  It's only happening
> with my specific mailbox.
> 
> TIA,
> Brent Wells
> Network Specialist
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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5.5 Replication problem

[Simon Sparks]

We have two Exchage sites within the same Organisation which are linked by
dial on demand routers and using IMC for replication.  The exchange
servers
are both v5.5 SP4.  

We have done a lot of work to control as much replication traffic as
possible between sites (directory and address book views both replicate at
01:00am) we have also checked the public folder replication times and set
them to 01:00 am on the schedule tab.

We are currently getting a single e-mail generated every 4 hours on the
button between the two -DSA accounts and we have no idea what is
generating these replication messages!

Can anyone PLEASE shed light on what is causing these mails.

Many thanks in Advance

Simon Sparks

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Exchange server fails after restore

[Lucia Washaya]

Hello

My exchange server crashed. I built another one with the same and
organization and restored the exchange database from backup. Now the MTA
will not start. ISINTEG completes but ESUTIL hangs.

What should I do?

Thank You,

Lucia

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RE: Two organisations

[Ed Crowley]

You haven't provided enough information to answer the questions.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wilkins, Jason (BIS)
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Two organisations


Hi,
We have recently merged with another company and are having problems sending
email between the two.
In addition we have tried and failed with interorg.
We have imported their GAL into ours on one of our sites.
Sometimes when you send an email to the custome recip you get an NDR stating
(woops don;'t have exact details), unable to find recipient. Or sometimes it
goes thro.
The only thing i can think is that as it is a custom recip it is given a
X400 address of the Exchange server where the custom recip has been
importedf to.
So i guess osmetimes it resol;ves to the smtp address and sends to that and
other times perhaps it tires to send to the X400 and fails as no mailbox
Does anyone have any experience with this?
As to interorg 
Well we configured it and one side started to show some entries however
after 72 hours about 30 entires could be seen however there are some
40,000!!!
Is it that slow or was there a problem?



With two orginisations what is the best type of connection to have?
Regards
Jase


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RE: Duplicate Inboxes

[coopere]

Go to Tools/Services.  Are there 2 instances of "Microsoft Exchange Server" listed?  
If so, delete one.

Eric

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:35:26 -0500, "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> Good morning all,
> 
> My problem is that when I open my E2k mailbox in Outlook 2000, I get my my
> inbox two times.  Has anyone ever seen this problem?  It's only happening
> with my specific mailbox.
> 
> TIA,
> Brent Wells
> Network Specialist
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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RE: Listing mailbox contents

[Richard Dann]

Thanks Ed,

I should have said it was 5.5 but you obviously spotted that one.

The only thought I've been come up with is to use an IMAP client with the
ability to list. Fortunately this hasn't turned out to be as big an issue as
I had feared.

regards,
Richard Dann


> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 6:39 PM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: Listing mailbox contents
> 
> Upgrade to Exchange 2000, then do a DIR M:\...
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> All your base are belong to us.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Dann
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:45 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Listing mailbox contents
> 
> 
> Folks,
> 
> I have a requirement to list the contents of a mailbox of a recently
> terminated  employee. I don't need to see the contents of each message,
> just
> the equivalent of "DIR /S >output.txt" for files. The mailbox in question
> has about 100 folders and HR, while happy to return personal information,
> wish to retain company data.
> 
> Has anyone got a quick simple way of doing this? I'd rather not print off
> the contents of each folder individually.
> 
> regards,
> Richard Dann
> 
> My sympathies and condolences to all those affected by last Tuesday's
> atrocity.
> 
> 
> Nextra is the trading name of CIX (Compulink Information Exchange), Norsk
> Data and XTML, all of whom are part of the Nextra Group.
> 
> Nextra, a division of international telecoms organisation Telenor, is a
> leading European Communications Service Provider. For information on
> products and services click on www.nextra.co.uk.
> 
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Nextra is the trading name of CIX (Compulink Information Exchange), Norsk
Data and XTML, all of whom are part of the Nextra Group. 

Nextra, a division of international telecoms organisation Telenor, is a
leading European Communications Service Provider. For information on
products and services click on www.nextra.co.uk. 

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RE: Interscan Virus Wall 3.51

[Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville]

For those interested.  
You have to modify the "intscan.ini" file.  You have to change the
"ELogFile=" path.  Then stop and start the Interscan services.  

Matthew
Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today!
http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp

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Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)..." Jim Schwartz
8-16-01


>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville
>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:00 AM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: Interscan Virus Wall 3.51
>>>
>>>
>>>Does anyone know how to relocate the ISCAN log files?  I've 
>>>checked Trend's
>>>site, put as of yet, my search has come up fruitless.  
>>>
>>>I am using Trend's Interscan Virus Wall version 3.51.  The 
>>>partition where
>>>the log files are located doesn't have enough space to keep 
>>>the amount of
>>>log files I want to keep.  I would like to know if anyone 
>>>has been able to
>>>configure Interscan to keep the log files some other place 
>>>then the default
>>>location?  
>>>
>>>Matthew
>>>Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get 
>>>yours today!
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp
>>>
>>>"Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the 
>>>P stands for
>>>Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail 
>>>admin)..." Jim Schwartz
>>>8-16-01
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RE: How do I change default Domain password when creating an accountwith Exchange?

[Ed Crowley]

Write your own account creation script that does it the way you want.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Phil Labonte
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: How do I change default Domain password when creating an
account with Exchange?


I am using Exchange 5.5 SP4 and Windows NT4 SP6.

When I create a new user using the Exchange Administrator and I select a
"New Windows NT Account" it creates the username on the domain with a blank
password.  I would like to change that.  Any thoughts?

Thanks

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RE: TCO - Linux vs. Exchange

[Ed Crowley]

Product comparisons generated by sales and marketing organizations never
compare apples to apples.  Not even Microsoft's.  Microsoft's Exchange
figures (and Compaq's for that matter) often pound the servers with POP3
transactions?  How many of us use Exchange as a POP3 server with thousands
of clients?

The only way to compare servers is to attempt to model your own
organization's usage patterns on the competitors' products.  It isn't easy.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Benjamin Scott
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 6:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: TCO - Linux vs. Exchange


> http://consultingtimes.com/Serverheist.html

  The biggest flaw in the above is that they are not comparing apples to
apples.  Exchange is not an email server, it is a collaboration framework
that happens to support email.  If all you want to do is email, then sure,
Linux will get the job done cheaper.  We have clients who do just that.  We
also have clients who run Exchange because they want more than that.  If you
want the collaboration, automation, integration, directory, and management
features that Exchange has, I don't know of anything on Linux that gets the
job done.  And I say this as an avid Linux supporter.

  Ultimately, what it comes down to is, no one size fits all.  The correct
approach is to choose the best tools for the environment, not fit the
environment to the tools.

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RE: Using Outlook 2000 Exchange service through a firewall

[Ed Crowley]

Not for Outlook 2000 with the Exchange Service, bub.  Please try to answer
the question that's being asked.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Guy Stewart
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 6:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Using Outlook 2000 Exchange service through a firewall


Port number 25 for SMTP and port number 110> You can also use OWA to
check your mail via the world wide web, without a VPN.

Guy Stewart III

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Subject: Using Outlook 2000 Exchange service through a firewall

Without setting up a vpn, does anyone know what ports would need to be
opened to use the Exchange service in Outlook 2000 to get email to flow
through a firewall?? Thanks IA


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RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed

[Andy David]

What is this talking pot you refer to? Why is it calling the kettle names?
Just answer my question!



Andy David 
J Muller International




-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 01:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


Now there's an example of the pot calling the kettle black.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


The amount of anger and self importance you have, is amazing.
How exactly you answered/helped?

Never mind, you will never be a normal person.

- Original Message -
From: "Great Cthulhu Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 05:38
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


> Hiya, Mark! How's it going?
>
> 1) Reformat it at will until the client complains of you padding your
hours.
> 2) Why not cluster it now? That way, you can reformat at least twice as
many
> boxes at a time!
> 3) Just to clarify, putting PC Anywhere back in the box it came in is a
good
> idea.
>
> Why not make up a Q article of your own? All you have to do is get a
regular
> KB article and edit it to suit your needs. Bosses only read printouts,
they
> never check web links. You'll be very safe on that one for a good while,
> protecting your reformatting job brilliantly.
>
> (:=
> Great Cthulhu Jones
> CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
> http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
> http://www.bad-managers.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:22 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> Hi.
>
> 1) The server isn't production, yet.
> 2) win2k AS, because it may need to be clustered in the future.
> 3) I think I already said putting pcanywhere is wrong.
>
> So can you advice a Q to tell it is bad to have such configuration.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 14:34
> Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> You're wrong.  You must get paid a lot to reformat production servers.
> TS gets reinstalled whenever you add or remove a networking component to
> Windows 2000 server[1], so you'd be reformatting your server to add
> Print Services for Unix, because you wanted to create a print queue to a
> printer down the hall in Engineering.
>
> Now why anyone would put pcAnywhere on a server[2]... *shiver*
> Especially when TS is available.  And why would they be spending the
> extra money for Advanced Server if they don't have enough of a clue to
> keep pcAnywhere off of it?[3]
>
> I'm stunned that you would ever recommend formatting a production server
> because "I 'feel' it is bad".
>
> [1] I may be wrong, but it's often enough that it's made me wonder why
> it keeps reinstalling.
> [2] http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pca.nsf/pfdocs/1996123152913
> should fix that nicely.
> [3] Because of the support for 8-processors and the 32-node load
> balancing?  RIIiiight.  Someone needs the price delta taken from
> their paycheck.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Sunday, September 16, 2001 4:18 AM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> Subject: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> Hello.
>
> Here is a "nice" issue I have:
> Someone installed windows 2000AS, then installed Ex2000, then pcanywhre,
> and
> then
> TS in Remote Administration Mode.
>
> I am saying this server should be formatted, and the TS services should
> be
> installed first.
> PCanywhere should not be installed at all.
>
> Can someone please advice/bring some Q's that explains that is very very
> bad
> to install
> TS services AFTER installing applications.
> I "feel" it is bad. I need to prove it.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
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RE: Movinng Exchange !

[Ed Crowley]

Good point.  FAQ Appendix A.

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Tech Consultant
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Roger Mackenzie
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Movinng Exchange !


Sorry, just back in the office so this reply may be too late. Is not the
answer to add another server to the same site and organisation and move the
mailboxes? At least that seems to be the implication of 'because the old
machine is running out of disk'.

Cheers, Roger Mackenzie (Glasgow University)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 12 September 2001 11:44
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Movinng Exchange !


Hi !

We use exchange 5.5 sp4 on NT4 sp6a in a NT network and I must create a
second
Exchange server (different Org and site) on a new server 
machine with a new name, because the old machine
is running out of disk and it's to old for upgrading.
I have tried to use the InterOrg synchronization tool to
import the containers from the old server
but it won't work, nothing happens.
The event log doesn't tell me anything special either, just
ending with "InterOrg: CCoord Begin: 4 M=0 R=1" while
the service are running.
I read the Microsoft articles about this tool including
the troubleshooting guide, but these documents doesn't
help me very much.
I'm wondering if this really is the right tool for this kind
of operation anyway.
Does anyone know if there is another way to do this
or does someone have I real life experience, either
with the InterOrg or with other methods.
If this information is to pour pleas tell
me and I will give you more.
 





//Ernst



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RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed

[Ed Crowley]

Now there's an example of the pot calling the kettle black.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


The amount of anger and self importance you have, is amazing.
How exactly you answered/helped?

Never mind, you will never be a normal person.

- Original Message -
From: "Great Cthulhu Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 05:38
Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed


> Hiya, Mark! How's it going?
>
> 1) Reformat it at will until the client complains of you padding your
hours.
> 2) Why not cluster it now? That way, you can reformat at least twice as
many
> boxes at a time!
> 3) Just to clarify, putting PC Anywhere back in the box it came in is a
good
> idea.
>
> Why not make up a Q article of your own? All you have to do is get a
regular
> KB article and edit it to suit your needs. Bosses only read printouts,
they
> never check web links. You'll be very safe on that one for a good while,
> protecting your reformatting job brilliantly.
>
> (:=
> Great Cthulhu Jones
> CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
> http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
> http://www.bad-managers.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Hanji
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:22 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> Hi.
>
> 1) The server isn't production, yet.
> 2) win2k AS, because it may need to be clustered in the future.
> 3) I think I already said putting pcanywhere is wrong.
>
> So can you advice a Q to tell it is bad to have such configuration.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 14:34
> Subject: RE: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> You're wrong.  You must get paid a lot to reformat production servers.
> TS gets reinstalled whenever you add or remove a networking component to
> Windows 2000 server[1], so you'd be reformatting your server to add
> Print Services for Unix, because you wanted to create a print queue to a
> printer down the hall in Engineering.
>
> Now why anyone would put pcAnywhere on a server[2]... *shiver*
> Especially when TS is available.  And why would they be spending the
> extra money for Advanced Server if they don't have enough of a clue to
> keep pcAnywhere off of it?[3]
>
> I'm stunned that you would ever recommend formatting a production server
> because "I 'feel' it is bad".
>
> [1] I may be wrong, but it's often enough that it's made me wonder why
> it keeps reinstalling.
> [2] http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pca.nsf/pfdocs/1996123152913
> should fix that nicely.
> [3] Because of the support for 8-processors and the 32-node load
> balancing?  RIIiiight.  Someone needs the price delta taken from
> their paycheck.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Sunday, September 16, 2001 4:18 AM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
> Subject: Terminal Services installed after E2K installed
>
>
> Hello.
>
> Here is a "nice" issue I have:
> Someone installed windows 2000AS, then installed Ex2000, then pcanywhre,
> and
> then
> TS in Remote Administration Mode.
>
> I am saying this server should be formatted, and the TS services should
> be
> installed first.
> PCanywhere should not be installed at all.
>
> Can someone please advice/bring some Q's that explains that is very very
> bad
> to install
> TS services AFTER installing applications.
> I "feel" it is bad. I need to prove it.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
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RE: Listing mailbox contents

[Ed Crowley]

Upgrade to Exchange 2000, then do a DIR M:\...

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Dann
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Listing mailbox contents


Folks,

I have a requirement to list the contents of a mailbox of a recently
terminated  employee. I don't need to see the contents of each message, just
the equivalent of "DIR /S >output.txt" for files. The mailbox in question
has about 100 folders and HR, while happy to return personal information,
wish to retain company data.

Has anyone got a quick simple way of doing this? I'd rather not print off
the contents of each folder individually.

regards,
Richard Dann

My sympathies and condolences to all those affected by last Tuesday's
atrocity.


Nextra is the trading name of CIX (Compulink Information Exchange), Norsk
Data and XTML, all of whom are part of the Nextra Group.

Nextra, a division of international telecoms organisation Telenor, is a
leading European Communications Service Provider. For information on
products and services click on www.nextra.co.uk.

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RE: Problem with Information Store

[Ed Crowley]

I don't believe that there's any way to downgrade from Enterprise to
Standard without a complete reinstall.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nelson Silva
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 9:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem with Information Store


Hi, actually the problem is solved. After I turned on the IS Maintenance
to always, it told me that the Private IS had 10 GB of free space. After
that I did an offline desfragmentation and the IS has now 6GB versus the
16GB it had before. The only modifications I did was installing the
Exchange Enterprise Edition because of the 16GB limit and configured the
printer not to use SMTP and POP3 to send and retrieve reports. Not sure
what correct the problem, or what the problem was... just that is working
fine now.

Just a quick question, Is there a way to automatically roll back to
Exchange Standart Edition, or do I have to install a fresh copy of
Exchange Standart and then restore a backup of old exchange data? Is this
a straighfoward process? Is it possible to upgrade the Exchange Server 5.5
Enterprise Edition to Exchange Server 2000 Standart Edition?

Thanks for all your feedback.

Nelson

> See if you can find out which mailboxes are growing. ExAdmin > Server >=
>  Priv
> > Mailbox Resources. File > Save Window Contents to CSV. Capture hourly=
>  for
> a few hours and compare. Any ideas of the account the printer was sendi=
> ng
> reports to? If the printer is trying to connect using POP3 then it woul=
> d be
> trying to retrieve mail rather than send it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Nelson Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 14 September 2001 11:58
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem with Information Store
>
>
> Yes, it is still growing, at a rate of something like 100Mb a day. The
> estimates where taken after the offline desfragmentation in the Mailbox=
> e
> Resources, they are a rought estimate of the mailboxes but in the total=
>
> they have something like 5GB. The IS grown in the space of 2 weeks but =
> i
> can=B4t tell you the rate.
>
> Somethink strange, we have several messages in the event viewer like th=
> is
> "An unauthenticated POP3 client 10.10.10.10 issued the USER command wit=
> h
> invalid argument(s)." It turned out to be a printer that was sending
> reports by mail. I=B4ve reconfigured the printer not to send this repor=
> ts.
> Do you think it could be this?
>
> The PRIV.EDB has now 16.6 GB
>
> Thanks,
> Nelson
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Yes, it is still growing, at a rate of something like 100Mb a day. The
estimates where taken after the offline desfragmentation in the Mailboxe
Resources, they are a rought estimate of the mailboxes but in the total
they have something like 5GB. The IS grown in the space of 2 weeks but i
can´t tell you the rate.

Somethink strange, we have several messages in the event viewer like this
"An unauthenticated POP3 client 10.10.10.10 issued the USER command with
invalid argument(s)." It turned out to be a printer that was sending
reports by mail. I´ve reconfigured the printer not to send this reports.
Do you think it could be this?

The PRIV.EDB has now 16.6 GB

Tha

RE: Duplicate Inboxes

[Ed Crowley]

Try deleting and recreating your profile.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wells, Brent
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 9:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Duplicate Inboxes


Good morning all,

My problem is that when I open my E2k mailbox in Outlook 2000, I get my my
inbox two times.  Has anyone ever seen this problem?  It's only happening
with my specific mailbox.

TIA,
Brent Wells
Network Specialist
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RE: disaster recovery practice?

[Ed Crowley]

And that shouldn't be a problem because you don't need the directory to
recover just data like deleted folders or mailboxes.  You only need to
recover the directory if you're restoring an entire server into a production
network.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Morrison
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: disaster recovery practice?


I have restored the priv and pub.edb's to a recovery server on the same
network as my production one. The key (as Andy pointed out) is to not
restore the directory. That will always go to the server that it was backed
up from.

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben & Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: disaster recovery practice?


You restored all of pub.edb to a different server on the network?

M
- Original Message -
From: "Chinnery Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:57 AM
Subject: RE: disaster recovery practice?


But isn't that only in certain instances?  I recovered a public folder (with
the generous help/advice of some of the people on this list) last week.  The
recovery server was on the network and I simply redirected the store to that
server.

-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: disaster recovery practice?


Unfortunately, that doesn't work.  An admin I once worked with found this
out the hard way...  The recovery server needs to be on a different network
than the original server.

Missy
- Original Message -
From: "John Matteson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: disaster recovery practice?


Did you redirect your restore to the restore server and not the "real"
Exchange server?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there
are none so blind as those who will not see
--The Moody Blues (I know you're out there)


-Original Message-
From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: disaster recovery practice?



Today, I decided to be a good exchange mail administrator and practice a
mailbox recovery using my recovery server.  I have already built the
recovery server, same SP's and fixes, did NOT join the site, but used same
names.  I have done this before with no problem.  I put the tape in,
catalog'd it, and then started the restore (by the way, following step by
step with the whitepaper!)however I soon started getting calls about a
mail problem.  It turns out all the services had stopped on the "real" mail
server, same one as the one I was doing the restore.  It turns out that
during the restore, the recovery server started writing Directory Service
transaction logs on the "real" server and this threw off the chronological
order of the logs which caused the services to fail..we ended up renaming
the logs to get them in order and everything is back up...
did I miss something or did someone fail to tell me that the recovery server
should not be on the network at the time of the restore?

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RE: disaster recovery practice?

[Ed Crowley]

You don't have to name the recovery server with the same name as the
production server if you're doing a restore of an online backup, and the
recovery server can be on the same network if you install Exchange with the
same organization and site names but do not join the existing site.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: disaster recovery practice?


Since two machines on a network can't have the same name, it would seem
obvious that the recovery server has to be on a separate network, eh?

- Original Message -
From: "Stevens, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:25 AM
Subject: disaster recovery practice?


>
> Today, I decided to be a good exchange mail administrator and practice a
> mailbox recovery using my recovery server.  I have already built the
> recovery server, same SP's and fixes, did NOT join the site, but used same
> names.  I have done this before with no problem.  I put the tape in,
> catalog'd it, and then started the restore (by the way, following step by
> step with the whitepaper!)however I soon started getting calls about a
> mail problem.  It turns out all the services had stopped on the "real"
mail
> server, same one as the one I was doing the restore.  It turns out that
> during the restore, the recovery server started writing Directory Service
> transaction logs on the "real" server and this threw off the chronological
> order of the logs which caused the services to fail..we ended up renaming
> the logs to get them in order and everything is back up...
> did I miss something or did someone fail to tell me that the recovery
server
> should not be on the network at the time of the restore?
>
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