scanmail blocked macintosh file attachment
i have scanmail 3.0 in my exchange 5.5, attachment blocking is enable on selected file extensions, we have some mac users here complaining that the file attach on their mail has been blocked. they only attached word and excel documents and sometimes txt file but still scanmail blocked and delete the file. i think scanmail can't recognized the type of file attached from mac machine that's why it's being blocked. what should i do to allowed attachement from mac machine? thanks jojo --- here are the message from scanmail. ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has blocked a file attachment(s). Place = Tara Sering Sender = Mariel Chua Subject = Southern Adventure article Delivery Time = October 01, 2001 (Monday) 11:04:13 Action on file attachment(s): Delete 'south adventure tour' at Tara Sering Message from recipient's administrator: Warning to sender. ScanMail has blocked a file during a real-time scan of the email traffic. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Win 2K and Exchange 2K
nope, I'm sticking with the tried and true Windows for workgroups and ms mail. it's great! :) -Original Message- From: Van Huissteden, Adriaan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 6:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Win 2K and Exchange 2K Has anyone used these products? Any Problems Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Complex SMTP Routing Scenario
I have an existing NT4 Domain with one Exchange 5.5 server all with latest service packs, 6A and 4 ON this exchange server their is 200 users with only the IMC connector which is used for 2 domains inbound We were just bought by another company and have to rebuild are NT 4 Domain, the existing domain just has a few servers, and the PDC just happens to also be the exchange server... The new NT4 domain is up and we have an exchange connector set up to corporate to coexist with some groupwise connectors with the API nlm on the groupwise side and exchange for groupwise on exchange side, the new corporate site is going to be in charge of the new IMC internet mail and will flow down to us over internal private network links with x.400 connectors which is currently working, but we have to maintain the IMC/smtp for are existing 2 domains The problem is that we cant just roll all of the users over at the same time due to everything is spread out, and we have many custom applications and complex shares on the existing domain, so we have a trust and place and I can log users onto the new NT4 domain and map drives and resources from the old domain, but how can I migrate users over to the new domain a little at a time... My problem is on how to keep user mail flowing from the existing domain.. so I just cant tell the existing imc to route to a smarthost on the new domain any ideas on how to route mail between 2 domains while we move all the users to the new domain _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Win 2K and Exchange 2K
What are those??? :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Van Huissteden, Adriaan Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 6:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Win 2K and Exchange 2K Has anyone used these products? Any Problems Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Win 2K and Exchange 2K
Has anyone used these products? Any Problems Thanks Adriaan Van Huissteden Network Administrator Connect Credit Union Phone: (03) 6233 0660 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MAPI Client for Windows 2000
The definitive answer: Test it yourself. You have knowledgeable people telling you not to do it, and you don't believe them. Pretend you're a professional and test it in a lab environment. I've never stuffed my cat into a coffee mug, but I've got strong indications from previous observations of both coffee mugs and cats that tell me he wouldn't react well. I'm thinking none of the other 4,000 people on this list have stuffed a cat into a coffee mug, and yet pretty darned near ALL of them have an idea that it wouldn't be good, without being able to quantify the EXACT point of systemic breakdown. If you don't believe me, stuff your own damn cat into your own damn coffee mug. > Hello. > > An optional answer: > Application that requires mapi client on the server. > For example: FAX application, anti virus that doesn't work via AVAPI, BLB > backup solution, > and others, that I may not say in public ;-) > > Anyway, among many replies I got, none of them was an answer to my question. [snip] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MAPI Client for Windows 2000
Just answer your own question! -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 12:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: MAPI Client for Windows 2000 Hello. An optional answer: Application that requires mapi client on the server. For example: FAX application, anti virus that doesn't work via AVAPI, BLB backup solution, and others, that I may not say in public ;-) Anyway, among many replies I got, none of them was an answer to my question. - Original Message - From: "Byron Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 9:20 AM Subject: RE: MAPI Client for Windows 2000 > Hanji San, > > i bet dinner of your choice in San Francisco that you've never heard a > profound discussion surrounding the value of installing a mapi client on an > exchange server. further, even ms says the legacy app is supplied "as is > with no product support..". clue.get! why go out of your way to add > instability to your system? okay, let me ask the question another way, what > value are you providing to your system by considering this? if you can > answer that, I for one will "test" it with you. > > kanbanwa.byron > > -Original Message- > From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 1:00 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: MAPI Client for Windows 2000 > > > Based on the Q, I am curious to know how you got to the conclusion that this > email client, > > isn't Exchange Server client. > > - Original Message - > From: "Ed Crowley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:30 AM > Subject: Re: MAPI Client for Windows 2000 > > > > Where is this guy's tech buddy?! > > > > Windows Messaging is indeed a MAPI client. But it is > > NOT an Exchange Server client. It's the same thing as > > that "Exchange" that shipped with Windows 95. It's a > > POP3/SMTP or MS Mail client. That's all. It would be > > very stupid to install that on an Exchange 2000 > > server. Of course, given your prior posts, that > > probably won't dissuade you, but I've done my due > > diligence. > > > > Ed Crowley > > Compaq Computer > > > > --- Mark Hanji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello. > > > > > > Has anyone tried the mapi client on Q254458? > > > > > > Can you share experience? I would like to install in > > > on EX2000 box. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > > List posting FAQ: > > > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > Archives: > > > http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > To unsubscribe: > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. > > http://phone.yahoo.com > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OWA and Public folders for Contacts
I have an exchange 5.5 sp4 on win2k sp2 server, we use OWA alot, I was just trying to set up a public folder with contact items in it for a psuodo GAL, but when in owa and trying to open it, I get an error saying this version of OWA only supports your main contacts items, is this a configuration error or normal?? If it doesnt work like this is their a way I can have a centrally set up GAL for all users to view with all contact information for a user ??? Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MAPI Client for Windows 2000
using proven products and methods for fax integration, anti-virus, backup, unified messaging or whatever, in-line with general best practices for exchange administration should increase your systems uptime. good luck.byron -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: MAPI Client for Windows 2000 Hello. An optional answer: Application that requires mapi client on the server. For example: FAX application, anti virus that doesn't work via AVAPI, BLB backup solution, and others, that I may not say in public ;-) Anyway, among many replies I got, none of them was an answer to my question. - Original Message - From: "Byron Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 9:20 AM Subject: RE: MAPI Client for Windows 2000 > Hanji San, > > i bet dinner of your choice in San Francisco that you've never heard a > profound discussion surrounding the value of installing a mapi client on an > exchange server. further, even ms says the legacy app is supplied "as is > with no product support..". clue.get! why go out of your way to add > instability to your system? okay, let me ask the question another way, what > value are you providing to your system by considering this? if you can > answer that, I for one will "test" it with you. > > kanbanwa.byron > > -Original Message- > From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 1:00 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: MAPI Client for Windows 2000 > > > Based on the Q, I am curious to know how you got to the conclusion that this > email client, > > isn't Exchange Server client. > > - Original Message - > From: "Ed Crowley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:30 AM > Subject: Re: MAPI Client for Windows 2000 > > > > Where is this guy's tech buddy?! > > > > Windows Messaging is indeed a MAPI client. But it is > > NOT an Exchange Server client. It's the same thing as > > that "Exchange" that shipped with Windows 95. It's a > > POP3/SMTP or MS Mail client. That's all. It would be > > very stupid to install that on an Exchange 2000 > > server. Of course, given your prior posts, that > > probably won't dissuade you, but I've done my due > > diligence. > > > > Ed Crowley > > Compaq Computer > > > > --- Mark Hanji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello. > > > > > > Has anyone tried the mapi client on Q254458? > > > > > > Can you share experience? I would like to install in > > > on EX2000 box. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > > List posting FAQ: > > > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > Archives: > > > http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > To unsubscribe: > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. > > http://phone.yahoo.com > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
3rd party software advice
Dear all If I can have your expertise opinions for a moment. What is the best software that can handle: 1. Scan all emails for viruses 2. Scans emails for certain words or attachments so it is held on our server waiting for an admin to send it on if appropriate 3. Adds a disclaimer 4. Archives all incoming and outgoing emails with an easy to search facility We are currently on exchange 5.5 on and NT4 server. Thank you for you advice and help Vas _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Multiple Mailboxes
I have 30 email addresses for 8 domains on my ex2000, and previously my ex5.5 - all for myself On ex5.5 make sure to accept them all as inbound. Telnet to port 25 and try them all manually Set up logging and check your event log -Original Message- From: andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 1:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Multiple Mailboxes Can I set say 12 smtp email addresses up for a user logging into the exchange server with outlook 2000? I have 9 email addresses from different domains setup for a user account and also the inbound routing on the imc but only the primary and 1 of the secondaries are receiving mail and dns resolutions works correctly for all domains to the mail servers port 25?? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Multiple Mailboxes
Can I set say 12 smtp email addresses up for a user logging into the exchange server with outlook 2000? I have 9 email addresses from different domains setup for a user account and also the inbound routing on the imc but only the primary and 1 of the secondaries are receiving mail and dns resolutions works correctly for all domains to the mail servers port 25?? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MAPI Client for Windows 2000
Hello. An optional answer: Application that requires mapi client on the server. For example: FAX application, anti virus that doesn't work via AVAPI, BLB backup solution, and others, that I may not say in public ;-) Anyway, among many replies I got, none of them was an answer to my question. - Original Message - From: "Byron Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 9:20 AM Subject: RE: MAPI Client for Windows 2000 > Hanji San, > > i bet dinner of your choice in San Francisco that you've never heard a > profound discussion surrounding the value of installing a mapi client on an > exchange server. further, even ms says the legacy app is supplied "as is > with no product support..". clue.get! why go out of your way to add > instability to your system? okay, let me ask the question another way, what > value are you providing to your system by considering this? if you can > answer that, I for one will "test" it with you. > > kanbanwa.byron > > -Original Message- > From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 1:00 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: MAPI Client for Windows 2000 > > > Based on the Q, I am curious to know how you got to the conclusion that this > email client, > > isn't Exchange Server client. > > - Original Message - > From: "Ed Crowley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:30 AM > Subject: Re: MAPI Client for Windows 2000 > > > > Where is this guy's tech buddy?! > > > > Windows Messaging is indeed a MAPI client. But it is > > NOT an Exchange Server client. It's the same thing as > > that "Exchange" that shipped with Windows 95. It's a > > POP3/SMTP or MS Mail client. That's all. It would be > > very stupid to install that on an Exchange 2000 > > server. Of course, given your prior posts, that > > probably won't dissuade you, but I've done my due > > diligence. > > > > Ed Crowley > > Compaq Computer > > > > --- Mark Hanji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello. > > > > > > Has anyone tried the mapi client on Q254458? > > > > > > Can you share experience? I would like to install in > > > on EX2000 box. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > > List posting FAQ: > > > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > Archives: > > > http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > To unsubscribe: > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. > > http://phone.yahoo.com > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Internet LAGGING
Someone probably didn't apply SP's correctly -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Internet LAGGING We need everyone offline at midnight PST. We are rebooting the internet then. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Putley Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 3:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Internet LAGGING Seems fine to me -Original Message- From: Anthony L. Sollars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Internet LAGGING Has anyone else noticed how lagged the whole web is, try some traceroutes and see bogged some of these backbone routers are. -Tony _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (Long!) Exchange-based enterprise executive scheduling applic ation
It is always funny how management will say "we want this" and you go back a couple of days later and give them a price, 95% of the time they go "Oh.well I guess we can get by with what we have". We recently had a client tell some of management how we should have Oracle rather than MSSQL (which does a great job for us). They asked me to get some pricing and when I went back with a bare minimum quote (just SW, no HW, no training), their jaws about hit the ground. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kuminda Chandimith Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 8:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: (Long!) Exchange-based enterprise executive scheduling applic ation Martin. I thought 10K for system specification is on The higher side. Not mention that I'd be quoting 4-5 time more for the Actual development.. and you said that its on Lower side.. What am I doing here .. counting peanuts .. ?? Tell me how big is a peanut on your planet ..? and Mike.. Exchange is not a very easy development platform (Challenging ..Yes ... But you need real good programmers to work on it). There are 101 things that seems very simple but that you cannot do in exchange (or it would cost 10 times more to do..) so a comprehensive application like yours will take really long time .. I would say roughly 10-12 man months (being very optimistic calculation) Give a cost benefit analyse to you management.. They Will find out that several "time management training" courses to staff will cost much Less than the exchange application. (assuming people going to use what they learn in those courses) Good Luck mike Kuminda Kuminda Chandimith Sr. Technical Consultant Ducont.com FZ-LLC Tel: + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237 Fax: +971-4-3913001 http://www.ducont.com -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 September 2001 18:47 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: (Long!) Exchange-based enterprise executive scheduling application I think Kuminda is right, you may need someone to write this program for you. His quote of 10K is probably on the low side. Regardless, this is not something you are going to have by Monday, or probably even by Nov 1st. PERSONSALLY, I probably would have told management that this aint gonna happen and Exchange is what they have. It is good enough for the rest of the world, it should be good enough for them. But I have never been good at politics either :) It sounds like non of these people or their admins can responsibly handle their schedules, so they are hoping there is some kind of super secretary software to do it for them. I think for you, you may need to let them know that anything like this would take a couple of months (at least), and they will need to be willing to hire a programmer to come in and do this, as there is nothing off the shelf for them. See how much they are willing spend to do this, then pass it on to someone you can hire as a contractor for the job. Tell them you have already solicited one offer for 10K to do it. Ill bet it is gets swept right under the rug! :) Good luck dude. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Pelley Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 5:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (Long!) Exchange-based enterprise executive scheduling application Importance: High Folks, I received on Friday a request that a new executive-level scheduling system be implemented yesterday (of course). For good or bad, I've convinced them that keeping all schedules within our existing Exchange 5.5 system so we don't have conflicting scheduling systems. However, I'm not sure if some features can even be implemented within Exchange. I'm NOT an Exchange programmer, so some things may not even be possible. They (the executives) really want some way that they (or their delegates) can prioritize meetings (I guess according to their priorities: First the Board, second senior executive, third joint executive, etc, with "local" meetings below these) and have "higher-level" meetings override "lower-level" meetings with central vetting. As well, they want the OWA interface changed so that a full month can be seen and different views applied (by scheduling body, by site, etc) and that it be viewable to all. I suggested Team Folders, but they say while is is "okay", it, even in the "full" Outlook version (let alone trying to view this over OWA), isn't what they want. Anyway, I've put the requirements below. Is there any product out there that can provide this functionality? Indeed, are there some requirments that Exchange 5.5 cannot provide? Thank you! Cheers, Mike -- Project Requirements --- Project: Scheduler to coordinate and facilitate all enterprise committee meetings. Requirements: * Efficient and user-friendly * Integrated into the existing Exchange system * Web interface: * Include s
RE: (Long!) Exchange-based enterprise executive scheduling applic ation
Well, at $250 an hour for Exchange dev, that is only 40 hours -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kuminda Chandimith Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 8:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: (Long!) Exchange-based enterprise executive scheduling applic ation Martin. I thought 10K for system specification is on The higher side. Not mention that I'd be quoting 4-5 time more for the Actual development.. and you said that its on Lower side.. What am I doing here .. counting peanuts .. ?? Tell me how big is a peanut on your planet ..? and Mike.. Exchange is not a very easy development platform (Challenging ..Yes ... But you need real good programmers to work on it). There are 101 things that seems very simple but that you cannot do in exchange (or it would cost 10 times more to do..) so a comprehensive application like yours will take really long time .. I would say roughly 10-12 man months (being very optimistic calculation) Give a cost benefit analyse to you management.. They Will find out that several "time management training" courses to staff will cost much Less than the exchange application. (assuming people going to use what they learn in those courses) Good Luck mike Kuminda Kuminda Chandimith Sr. Technical Consultant Ducont.com FZ-LLC Tel: + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237 Fax: +971-4-3913001 http://www.ducont.com -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 September 2001 18:47 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: (Long!) Exchange-based enterprise executive scheduling application I think Kuminda is right, you may need someone to write this program for you. His quote of 10K is probably on the low side. Regardless, this is not something you are going to have by Monday, or probably even by Nov 1st. PERSONSALLY, I probably would have told management that this aint gonna happen and Exchange is what they have. It is good enough for the rest of the world, it should be good enough for them. But I have never been good at politics either :) It sounds like non of these people or their admins can responsibly handle their schedules, so they are hoping there is some kind of super secretary software to do it for them. I think for you, you may need to let them know that anything like this would take a couple of months (at least), and they will need to be willing to hire a programmer to come in and do this, as there is nothing off the shelf for them. See how much they are willing spend to do this, then pass it on to someone you can hire as a contractor for the job. Tell them you have already solicited one offer for 10K to do it. Ill bet it is gets swept right under the rug! :) Good luck dude. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Pelley Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 5:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (Long!) Exchange-based enterprise executive scheduling application Importance: High Folks, I received on Friday a request that a new executive-level scheduling system be implemented yesterday (of course). For good or bad, I've convinced them that keeping all schedules within our existing Exchange 5.5 system so we don't have conflicting scheduling systems. However, I'm not sure if some features can even be implemented within Exchange. I'm NOT an Exchange programmer, so some things may not even be possible. They (the executives) really want some way that they (or their delegates) can prioritize meetings (I guess according to their priorities: First the Board, second senior executive, third joint executive, etc, with "local" meetings below these) and have "higher-level" meetings override "lower-level" meetings with central vetting. As well, they want the OWA interface changed so that a full month can be seen and different views applied (by scheduling body, by site, etc) and that it be viewable to all. I suggested Team Folders, but they say while is is "okay", it, even in the "full" Outlook version (let alone trying to view this over OWA), isn't what they want. Anyway, I've put the requirements below. Is there any product out there that can provide this functionality? Indeed, are there some requirments that Exchange 5.5 cannot provide? Thank you! Cheers, Mike -- Project Requirements --- Project: Scheduler to coordinate and facilitate all enterprise committee meetings. Requirements: * Efficient and user-friendly * Integrated into the existing Exchange system * Web interface: * Include some means of viewing information by committee and or by month (perhaps also by individual). * clude a category of simple list of meetings for that month. * Each meeting would have a link to a table of information on the meeting including time and place and a list of attendees. Each attendee name linked to their general info as well or to their conflict/ problem if applicable (See idea
RE: (Long!) Exchange-based enterprise executive scheduling applic ation
Martin. I thought 10K for system specification is on The higher side. Not mention that I'd be quoting 4-5 time more for the Actual development.. and you said that its on Lower side.. What am I doing here .. counting peanuts .. ?? Tell me how big is a peanut on your planet ..? and Mike.. Exchange is not a very easy development platform (Challenging ..Yes ... But you need real good programmers to work on it). There are 101 things that seems very simple but that you cannot do in exchange (or it would cost 10 times more to do..) so a comprehensive application like yours will take really long time .. I would say roughly 10-12 man months (being very optimistic calculation) Give a cost benefit analyse to you management.. They Will find out that several "time management training" courses to staff will cost much Less than the exchange application. (assuming people going to use what they learn in those courses) Good Luck mike Kuminda Kuminda Chandimith Sr. Technical Consultant Ducont.com FZ-LLC Tel: + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237 Fax: +971-4-3913001 http://www.ducont.com -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 September 2001 18:47 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: (Long!) Exchange-based enterprise executive scheduling application I think Kuminda is right, you may need someone to write this program for you. His quote of 10K is probably on the low side. Regardless, this is not something you are going to have by Monday, or probably even by Nov 1st. PERSONSALLY, I probably would have told management that this aint gonna happen and Exchange is what they have. It is good enough for the rest of the world, it should be good enough for them. But I have never been good at politics either :) It sounds like non of these people or their admins can responsibly handle their schedules, so they are hoping there is some kind of super secretary software to do it for them. I think for you, you may need to let them know that anything like this would take a couple of months (at least), and they will need to be willing to hire a programmer to come in and do this, as there is nothing off the shelf for them. See how much they are willing spend to do this, then pass it on to someone you can hire as a contractor for the job. Tell them you have already solicited one offer for 10K to do it. Ill bet it is gets swept right under the rug! :) Good luck dude. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Pelley Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 5:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (Long!) Exchange-based enterprise executive scheduling application Importance: High Folks, I received on Friday a request that a new executive-level scheduling system be implemented yesterday (of course). For good or bad, I've convinced them that keeping all schedules within our existing Exchange 5.5 system so we don't have conflicting scheduling systems. However, I'm not sure if some features can even be implemented within Exchange. I'm NOT an Exchange programmer, so some things may not even be possible. They (the executives) really want some way that they (or their delegates) can prioritize meetings (I guess according to their priorities: First the Board, second senior executive, third joint executive, etc, with "local" meetings below these) and have "higher-level" meetings override "lower-level" meetings with central vetting. As well, they want the OWA interface changed so that a full month can be seen and different views applied (by scheduling body, by site, etc) and that it be viewable to all. I suggested Team Folders, but they say while is is "okay", it, even in the "full" Outlook version (let alone trying to view this over OWA), isn't what they want. Anyway, I've put the requirements below. Is there any product out there that can provide this functionality? Indeed, are there some requirments that Exchange 5.5 cannot provide? Thank you! Cheers, Mike -- Project Requirements --- Project: Scheduler to coordinate and facilitate all enterprise committee meetings. Requirements: * Efficient and user-friendly * Integrated into the existing Exchange system * Web interface: * Include some means of viewing information by committee and or by month (perhaps also by individual). * clude a category of simple list of meetings for that month. * Each meeting would have a link to a table of information on the meeting including time and place and a list of attendees. Each attendee name linked to their general info as well or to their conflict/ problem if applicable (See idea of conflict tag below). * Administrative (Data Entry and Maintenance) side such that a delegate for each committee could update their list of events. This input would go through a verification process that would ensure all the protocols were adhered to. * Work with the existing outlook information in terms of individual me
RE: (Long!) Exchange-based enterprise executive scheduling application
I think Kuminda is right, you may need someone to write this program for you. His quote of 10K is probably on the low side. Regardless, this is not something you are going to have by Monday, or probably even by Nov 1st. PERSONSALLY, I probably would have told management that this aint gonna happen and Exchange is what they have. It is good enough for the rest of the world, it should be good enough for them. But I have never been good at politics either :) It sounds like non of these people or their admins can responsibly handle their schedules, so they are hoping there is some kind of super secretary software to do it for them. I think for you, you may need to let them know that anything like this would take a couple of months (at least), and they will need to be willing to hire a programmer to come in and do this, as there is nothing off the shelf for them. See how much they are willing spend to do this, then pass it on to someone you can hire as a contractor for the job. Tell them you have already solicited one offer for 10K to do it. Ill bet it is gets swept right under the rug! :) Good luck dude. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Pelley Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 5:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (Long!) Exchange-based enterprise executive scheduling application Importance: High Folks, I received on Friday a request that a new executive-level scheduling system be implemented yesterday (of course). For good or bad, I've convinced them that keeping all schedules within our existing Exchange 5.5 system so we don't have conflicting scheduling systems. However, I'm not sure if some features can even be implemented within Exchange. I'm NOT an Exchange programmer, so some things may not even be possible. They (the executives) really want some way that they (or their delegates) can prioritize meetings (I guess according to their priorities: First the Board, second senior executive, third joint executive, etc, with "local" meetings below these) and have "higher-level" meetings override "lower-level" meetings with central vetting. As well, they want the OWA interface changed so that a full month can be seen and different views applied (by scheduling body, by site, etc) and that it be viewable to all. I suggested Team Folders, but they say while is is "okay", it, even in the "full" Outlook version (let alone trying to view this over OWA), isn't what they want. Anyway, I've put the requirements below. Is there any product out there that can provide this functionality? Indeed, are there some requirments that Exchange 5.5 cannot provide? Thank you! Cheers, Mike -- Project Requirements --- Project: Scheduler to coordinate and facilitate all enterprise committee meetings. Requirements: * Efficient and user-friendly * Integrated into the existing Exchange system * Web interface: * Include some means of viewing information by committee and or by month (perhaps also by individual). * clude a category of simple list of meetings for that month. * Each meeting would have a link to a table of information on the meeting including time and place and a list of attendees. Each attendee name linked to their general info as well or to their conflict/ problem if applicable (See idea of conflict tag below). * Administrative (Data Entry and Maintenance) side such that a delegate for each committee could update their list of events. This input would go through a verification process that would ensure all the protocols were adhered to. * Work with the existing outlook information in terms of individual members existing commitments. * A planning hierarchy would be created such that the highest level meetings / most relevance can be flagged as such. Conflicts are detected when the item is added and some sort of simple flag (i.e. attendee name changes color or icon appears) indicating that another commitment exists for a specific attendee. Here too some assessment of the priority for the meetings must come into play. When a conflict exists the user should avail of a list of other available dates to reschedule the lesser priority meeting. * When sorting by location the list needs to include meetings specific to them and higher. The same level and lower are not necessary. i.e., A site meeting in City A need not appear in the list for someone in City B. * The project initiator (and Board of Directors member!) is responsible for the Board of Directory, Senior Executive, Joint Executive ( District Administrators ) and Extended Joint Executive ( District Administrators, Associate District Administrators and Pject Chairs) meetings. He has emailed members of these to contact him with a list of groups to be considered in this planning process. Examples: * A meeting with an external organization includes some higher executive members. Although it is not strictly an organizational ev
RE: (Long!) Exchange-based enterprise executive scheduling applic ation
How are you paying... ? If your company don't have a good credibility record I might request for Post Dated Cheques ... I'll be taking fix 1 USD (negotiable) to Prepare the detail system specification. (75% in Advance) In which I'll Be saying which can do and cannot. With the System specification I'll be giving a quotation for the development of the application. Which you may accept..Or you can go and give the specification to another company. (and I'll make sure that only I can understand the specification so at the end you have to give the Project to me.. Or pay for Another system specification.) You need to reimburse all my Transport, lodging, beer, "Fish Tacos" etc during the preparation of the system specification. I am sure I can handle most of the outrageous requests of your executives. so you don't have to bother about those. (after all I supposed to be the CONSULTANT) "In Simple words you need a developer or a Development company to this for you. " Good Luck with It. regards Kuminda Kuminda Chandimith Sr. Technical Consultant Ducont.com FZ-LLC Tel: + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237 Fax: +971-4-3913001 http://www.ducont.com -Original Message- From: Mike Pelley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 September 2001 16:50 To: Exchange Discussions Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (Long!) Exchange-based enterprise executive scheduling application Importance: High Folks, I received on Friday a request that a new executive-level scheduling system be implemented yesterday (of course). For good or bad, I've convinced them that keeping all schedules within our existing Exchange 5.5 system so we don't have conflicting scheduling systems. However, I'm not sure if some features can even be implemented within Exchange. I'm NOT an Exchange programmer, so some things may not even be possible. They (the executives) really want some way that they (or their delegates) can prioritize meetings (I guess according to their priorities: First the Board, second senior executive, third joint executive, etc, with "local" meetings below these) and have "higher-level" meetings override "lower-level" meetings with central vetting. As well, they want the OWA interface changed so that a full month can be seen and different views applied (by scheduling body, by site, etc) and that it be viewable to all. I suggested Team Folders, but they say while is is "okay", it, even in the "full" Outlook version (let alone trying to view this over OWA), isn't what they want. Anyway, I've put the requirements below. Is there any product out there that can provide this functionality? Indeed, are there some requirments that Exchange 5.5 cannot provide? Thank you! Cheers, Mike -- Project Requirements --- Project: Scheduler to coordinate and facilitate all enterprise committee meetings. Requirements: * Efficient and user-friendly * Integrated into the existing Exchange system * Web interface: * Include some means of viewing information by committee and or by month (perhaps also by individual). * clude a category of simple list of meetings for that month. * Each meeting would have a link to a table of information on the meeting including time and place and a list of attendees. Each attendee name linked to their general info as well or to their conflict/ problem if applicable (See idea of conflict tag below). * Administrative (Data Entry and Maintenance) side such that a delegate for each committee could update their list of events. This input would go through a verification process that would ensure all the protocols were adhered to. * Work with the existing outlook information in terms of individual members existing commitments. * A planning hierarchy would be created such that the highest level meetings / most relevance can be flagged as such. Conflicts are detected when the item is added and some sort of simple flag (i.e. attendee name changes color or icon appears) indicating that another commitment exists for a specific attendee. Here too some assessment of the priority for the meetings must come into play. When a conflict exists the user should avail of a list of other available dates to reschedule the lesser priority meeting. * When sorting by location the list needs to include meetings specific to them and higher. The same level and lower are not necessary. i.e., A site meeting in City A need not appear in the list for someone in City B. * The project initiator (and Board of Directors member!) is responsible for the Board of Directory, Senior Executive, Joint Executive ( District Administrators ) and Extended Joint Executive ( District Administrators, Associate District Administrators and Pject Chairs) meetings. He has emailed members of these to contact him with a list of groups to be considered in this planning process. Examples: * A meeting with an external organization includes some higher executive members. Although it is not strictly an organizational event
(Long!) Exchange-based enterprise executive scheduling application
Folks, I received on Friday a request that a new executive-level scheduling system be implemented yesterday (of course). For good or bad, I've convinced them that keeping all schedules within our existing Exchange 5.5 system so we don't have conflicting scheduling systems. However, I'm not sure if some features can even be implemented within Exchange. I'm NOT an Exchange programmer, so some things may not even be possible. They (the executives) really want some way that they (or their delegates) can prioritize meetings (I guess according to their priorities: First the Board, second senior executive, third joint executive, etc, with "local" meetings below these) and have "higher-level" meetings override "lower-level" meetings with central vetting. As well, they want the OWA interface changed so that a full month can be seen and different views applied (by scheduling body, by site, etc) and that it be viewable to all. I suggested Team Folders, but they say while is is "okay", it, even in the "full" Outlook version (let alone trying to view this over OWA), isn't what they want. Anyway, I've put the requirements below. Is there any product out there that can provide this functionality? Indeed, are there some requirments that Exchange 5.5 cannot provide? Thank you! Cheers, Mike -- Project Requirements --- Project: Scheduler to coordinate and facilitate all enterprise committee meetings. Requirements: * Efficient and user-friendly * Integrated into the existing Exchange system * Web interface: * Include some means of viewing information by committee and or by month (perhaps also by individual). * clude a category of simple list of meetings for that month. * Each meeting would have a link to a table of information on the meeting including time and place and a list of attendees. Each attendee name linked to their general info as well or to their conflict/ problem if applicable (See idea of conflict tag below). * Administrative (Data Entry and Maintenance) side such that a delegate for each committee could update their list of events. This input would go through a verification process that would ensure all the protocols were adhered to. * Work with the existing outlook information in terms of individual members existing commitments. * A planning hierarchy would be created such that the highest level meetings / most relevance can be flagged as such. Conflicts are detected when the item is added and some sort of simple flag (i.e. attendee name changes color or icon appears) indicating that another commitment exists for a specific attendee. Here too some assessment of the priority for the meetings must come into play. When a conflict exists the user should avail of a list of other available dates to reschedule the lesser priority meeting. * When sorting by location the list needs to include meetings specific to them and higher. The same level and lower are not necessary. i.e., A site meeting in City A need not appear in the list for someone in City B. * The project initiator (and Board of Directors member!) is responsible for the Board of Directory, Senior Executive, Joint Executive ( District Administrators ) and Extended Joint Executive ( District Administrators, Associate District Administrators and Pject Chairs) meetings. He has emailed members of these to contact him with a list of groups to be considered in this planning process. Examples: * A meeting with an external organization includes some higher executive members. Although it is not strictly an organizational event it must be covered on in terms of time committed in the scheduler. * Sub-executive groups have meetings wich conflicts with a Joint executive meeting which for one director. The scheduler would help avoid this If properly updated! * A meeting scheduled at a group or individual level needs to be accounted for, i.e., the information in Exchange must be available. (That is, everyone's schedule must be accessable to everyone else, including the web interface) Mike Pelley E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
