RE: EDU Migration Question
Set the 'expiry time' parameter on the Email? Cheers Paul Standards are like toothbrushes, everyone wants one but not yours -Original Message- From: Fay, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 November 2002 18:45 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: EDU Migration Question I'm preparing a design to migrate campus students from Sendmail to E2K. One of the clients objectives is to achieve like functionality for the following task: To search for specific messages by subject and/or sender and delete them. The scenario being that Faculty or Network staff has sent out notices over some time period and students have been away for an extended period and not checked their mail. These messages have accumulated and the Network staff wants to remove these messages. Today this is performed on the Unix Host. And yes, mailbox size warnings and limits will be implemented. Can this same functionality be achieved on the Exchange Server without a 3rd party tool? I don't believe Mailbox Manager is a solution since it is based on age limits. My client does not want to delete unread messages older than xx days arbitrarily. Mark Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.fay.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The information contained in this message or any of its attachments may be confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited without the express permission of the sender. The views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Sony or Sony affiliated companies. Sony email is for business use only. This email and any response may be monitored by Sony United Kingdom Limited. (05) ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group
You can move servers between admin groups? So switching to Native mode will allow me to move users between admin groups? Is that what I was missing? Uso - Original Message - From: Greg Deckler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:01 AM Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group Once you get to Native Mode, you can consolidate any number of sites into administrative groups. Proceed with your migration, then switch to native mode and consolidate. That is the process. To get there, you will probably want to install an E2K server into the second site, move the mailboxes to that server, get rid of all your E55 servers, switch to native mode and then move the server to the first AG and then blast the AG/site for your second site. Let me know if you have any questions. I have the following scenario: 2 Exchange servers in one org but different sites that I need to migrate to Exchange 2000 into one single Admin Group. I can move the first server into the first admin group without problems but how can I move the mailboxes of the 2nd site into the First Admin Group instead of creating a new admin group? That doesn't seem to work. I thought about using Exemerge, is there another way? regards Uso _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: duplicate adress in contact
Make a mailbox on your system for one of the managers. It will be in the GAL, of course. Now set forwarding on that mailbox to the guy(s) in Dubai. Better: Tell your moron users to add them in their own contacts list. Best: Get the two morons in Dubai to have two mailboxes. Unthinkably good: Invent a cure for micromanaging nincompoops. -Original Message- From: Exchange List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:37 PM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: duplicate adress in contact Subject: RE: duplicate adress in contact Ed, we are not hosting their mailboxes in Pakistan. They have their own mailboxes in Dubai. What I have done is, I have created contacts on my server, so that my management can send mails using those addresses, but the problem is that there is one email ID used by 2 guys in Dubai, which obviously I can't add in my GAL, But my management over here is forcing me to add them both, how can I do that. Please let me know if I am unable to describe you. Regards, Irfan Malik. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: duplicate adress in contact Create a new mailbox with the shared ID, grant permissions so each manager owns it and has Send As rights, and show each manager how to add it as a second mailbox. Show them how to use the From: field to send from that mailbox when they want to. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Public Folder: Exchange Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: duplicate adress in contact My two manager sharing one email ID in Dubai, now here I have created two contacts with different names but same email address, and added in the group called XYZ, but the problem is message bounce back NDR duplicate addresses. I know this is normal but my management wants that they both should exit in our GAL, How can I solve this; help in this regard is appreciated. E-mail addresses must be unique between users! You need to add the second manager as a different e-mail address, then have exchange deliver the mail to BOTH mailboxes. (alternate recipient) Kevin _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Off topic DLT 7000 restore.
We're using current backups performed on 2000 SP3. Both systems running the same which has really got me puzzled why it will not read on the recovery box. -Original Message- From: Public Folder: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:48 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Off topic DLT 7000 restore. After upgrading the boxes to 2000 SP3 (including my recovery box), the backup tape drive on the recovery system will not recognize the any tapes from the other systems. I put the tape in and I get use cleaning tape. Looked at drivers and I don't know if it's related, but I remember some issue with Exchange 2000 Service Pack 3 changing ntbackup and earlier backups will no longer be recognized. -Kevin _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group
You need to be in Native mode to move servers between Admin/Groups in E2K. Moving users does not matter. - Original Message - From: Uso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:41 AM Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group You can move servers between admin groups? So switching to Native mode will allow me to move users between admin groups? Is that what I was missing? Uso - Original Message - From: Greg Deckler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:01 AM Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group Once you get to Native Mode, you can consolidate any number of sites into administrative groups. Proceed with your migration, then switch to native mode and consolidate. That is the process. To get there, you will probably want to install an E2K server into the second site, move the mailboxes to that server, get rid of all your E55 servers, switch to native mode and then move the server to the first AG and then blast the AG/site for your second site. Let me know if you have any questions. I have the following scenario: 2 Exchange servers in one org but different sites that I need to migrate to Exchange 2000 into one single Admin Group. I can move the first server into the first admin group without problems but how can I move the mailboxes of the 2nd site into the First Admin Group instead of creating a new admin group? That doesn't seem to work. I thought about using Exemerge, is there another way? regards Uso _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weird SMTP header problem
To summarize my problem, my E2K mailbox server is stripping SMTP Received: headers, and making up it's own. Last week when this happened, a reboot cleared up the problem, but it came back (not been able to reboot again, yet). Ed, is this proof enough? I've managed to distill the problem down to a simple set of steps. 1. Send email from my PC to the MSX 5.5 IMS server using blat. Here's the output: Failed to open registry key for Blat profile , using default. Failed to open registry key for Blat Sending x.kix to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Login name is [EMAIL PROTECTED] getline 220 nts126.kimball.com ESMTP Server (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service 5.5.2652.78) ready putline EHLO 051kcornet getline 250-nts126.kimball.com Hello [051KCORNET] 250-XEXCH50 250-HELP 250-ETRN 250-DSN 250-SIZE 0 250-AUTH LOGIN 250 AUTH=LOGIN putline MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] getline 250 OK - mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] putline RCPT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] getline 250 OK - Recipient [EMAIL PROTECTED] putline DATA getline 354 Send data. End with CRLF.CRLF getline 250 OK putline QUIT getline 221 closing connection 2. Here's NTS126's log entries from above message c=us;a= ;p=kii;l=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W 10122002.11.19 13:52:20 /o=KII/ou=Jasper001/cn=Configuration/cn=Connections/cn=Internet Mail Connector (NTS126) /o=KII/ou=Jasper001/cn=Configuration/cn=Connections/cn=Internet Mail Connector (NTS126) XC17P83W[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 1555 0 0 1 c=us;a= ;p=kii;l=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W 10132002.11.19 13:52:20 /o=KII/ou=Jasper001/cn=Configuration/cn=Connections/cn=Internet Mail Connector (NTS126) /o=KII/ou=Jasper001/cn=Configuration/cn=Servers/cn=NTS126/cn=Microsoft Private MDB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 15550 0 1 C=us;A= ;P=kii;L=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W 0 2002.11.19 13:52:21 /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=CONFIGURATION/CN=CONNECTIONS/CN=INTERNET MAIL CONNECTOR (NTS126) C=US;A= ;P=KII;O=Jasper001;DDA:SMTP=fubar(a)kimball.com;0 21590 0 1 C=us;A= ;P=kii;L=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W 7 2002.11.19 13:52:21 /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=CONFIGURATION/CN=SERVERS/CN=NTS390/CN=MICROSOFT MTA C=US;A= ;P=KII;O=Jasper001;DDA:SMTP=fubar(a)kimball.com;0 2159 0 0 1 The most pertinent part of the logs is the event IDs: 1012 - SMTP received, 1013 - SMTP transferred inbound, 0 - Message transferred in, and 7 - message transferred out. Notice there is no 1010 or 1011 (outbound SMTP) Next, here's the tracking.log entries from the E2K mailbox server 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Kcornet1027 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - c=us;a= ;p=kii;l=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Kcornet1019 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Kcornet1025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Kcornet1024 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]1023 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]1028 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Lastly, here's what I see from outlook 2002: Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0 Received: by nts390.kii.kimball.com id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:51:56 -0500 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Contents of file: x.kix Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:51:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name=winmail.dat Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-MS-Has-Attach: Thread-Topic: Contents of file: x.kix Thread-Index: AcKP0tNV5UfLpPvBEdaoJgCQJ4dN9Q== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:48 PM To:
RE: Weird SMTP header problem
I recall reporting this and escalating it when I still worked there. Was told it's by design when SMTP mail is transferred within an organization. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird SMTP header problem To summarize my problem, my E2K mailbox server is stripping SMTP Received: headers, and making up it's own. Last week when this happened, a reboot cleared up the problem, but it came back (not been able to reboot again, yet). Ed, is this proof enough? I've managed to distill the problem down to a simple set of steps. 1. Send email from my PC to the MSX 5.5 IMS server using blat. Here's the output: Failed to open registry key for Blat profile , using default. Failed to open registry key for Blat Sending x.kix to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Login name is [EMAIL PROTECTED] getline 220 nts126.kimball.com ESMTP Server (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service 5.5.2652.78) ready putline EHLO 051kcornet getline 250-nts126.kimball.com Hello [051KCORNET] 250-XEXCH50 250-HELP 250-ETRN 250-DSN 250-SIZE 0 250-AUTH LOGIN 250 AUTH=LOGIN putline MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] getline 250 OK - mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] putline RCPT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] getline 250 OK - Recipient [EMAIL PROTECTED] putline DATA getline 354 Send data. End with CRLF.CRLF getline 250 OK putline QUIT getline 221 closing connection 2. Here's NTS126's log entries from above message c=us;a= ;p=kii;l=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W 10122002.11.19 13:52:20 /o=KII/ou=Jasper001/cn=Configuration/cn=Connections/cn=Internet Mail Connector (NTS126) /o=KII/ou=Jasper001/cn=Configuration/cn=Connections/cn=Internet Mail Connector (NTS126) XC17P83W[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 1555 0 0 1 c=us;a= ;p=kii;l=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W 10132002.11.19 13:52:20 /o=KII/ou=Jasper001/cn=Configuration/cn=Connections/cn=Internet Mail Connector (NTS126) /o=KII/ou=Jasper001/cn=Configuration/cn=Servers/cn=NTS126/cn=Microsoft Private MDB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 15550 0 1 C=us;A= ;P=kii;L=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W 0 2002.11.19 13:52:21 /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=CONFIGURATION/CN=CONNECTIONS/CN=INTERNET MAIL CONNECTOR (NTS126) C=US;A= ;P=KII;O=Jasper001;DDA:SMTP=fubar(a)kimball.com;0 21590 0 1 C=us;A= ;P=kii;L=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W 7 2002.11.19 13:52:21 /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=CONFIGURATION/CN=SERVERS/CN=NTS390/CN=MICROSOFT MTA C=US;A= ;P=KII;O=Jasper001;DDA:SMTP=fubar(a)kimball.com;0 2159 0 0 1 The most pertinent part of the logs is the event IDs: 1012 - SMTP received, 1013 - SMTP transferred inbound, 0 - Message transferred in, and 7 - message transferred out. Notice there is no 1010 or 1011 (outbound SMTP) Next, here's the tracking.log entries from the E2K mailbox server 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Kcornet1027 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - c=us;a= ;p=kii;l=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Kcornet1019 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Kcornet1025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Kcornet1024 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]1023 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]1028 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Lastly, here's what I see from outlook 2002: Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0 Received: by nts390.kii.kimball.com id [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:51:56 -0500 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Contents of file: x.kix Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:51:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name=winmail.dat Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary
RE: Domain Trusts and Exchange Accounts
We have four domains with a complete-trust model. Mailboxes have NT accounts from any of these domains. No problems here...never had any issues sharing calendars. This is exchange 5.5. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 November 2002 18:22 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Domain Trusts and Exchange Accounts Yes, maybe, especially if it is a mixed NT4.0 domain and AD setup. It will work but certain functions will not work in Outlook, like sharing of calendars can be troublesome. - Original Message - From: Dupler, Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:22 PM Subject: RE: Domain Trusts and Exchange Accounts Maybe. -Original Message- From: Erik Vesneski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 6:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Domain Trusts and Exchange Accounts Hi, If you have two domains and they fully trust each other can an NT account in domain a be mapped to an exchange account in domain b? Regards, Erik L. Vesneski Director - Information Technology www.epicentric.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Exch2k to a new server
What type of server is the advanced server (ie pdc/ member)? SBS is a pdc so if you've set up the new server as that also, I don't think it's possible. You could put the 2 servers on different network segments and exmerge - or exmerge and copy to backup tape. You can use the csvde or ldifde to create the users/ mailboxes - plenty of articles on technet about this Upgrading to backoffice when you already have an advanced server there is a bit of a waste of money (unless you are going to use it but the way I read you it is going away) I recently had to merge 2 domains - one on existing sbs2k and the other on sbs4.5 Used exmerge, data to tape and import onto sbs2k - worked a treat. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 November 2002 17:31 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Exch2k to a new server I am not an SBS expert but I don't believe you can use my method to upgrade an SBS server. As I understand it, you must upgrade the SBS server to BackOffice and then you can use my method. If I'm wrong, an SBS expert can correct me. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Winfrey Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move Exch2k to a new server I am moving exchange 2k to a new server and am using the procedures found at http://www.swinc.com/resource/e2kfaq_appxa.htm and I guessed based on Ed Crowley's instructions for moving exch 5.5. Anyway, I'm on step 7 which says Create new mailbox stores and public folder stores on the new server to match the old server (This is not a requirement per se, you might instead choose a different configuration to take advantage of new and improved hardware). However, I look in the Exchange Manager and do not find my new server. I only see the old server which is still in production. Any explanation why I don't see my new server? This new server has AD installed and is in the same tree as the old server. In the interest of full disclosure, the old server is Small Business Server 2000 and my attempt is to install the new server as Win2k Adv Server and Exch2k. Eventually, the old SBS will go away. Thank you, Mike Winfrey _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete the email. intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT-TechEd
Anyone have a ballpark price for Tech-Ed 2003? I'm a Tech-Ed virgin and it's budget time. Thanks in advance, Scott. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weird SMTP header problem
But it happens with external mail as well. Our test systems have never shown this symptom. Our production E2K system never started doing this until last week (we can't think of anything that's changed on any of the Exchange servers). It's been running for a couple of months now. Like I've said earlier, this behavior stopped after rebooting the E2K mailbox server, but now it's back! -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird SMTP header problem I recall reporting this and escalating it when I still worked there. Was told it's by design when SMTP mail is transferred within an organization. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird SMTP header problem To summarize my problem, my E2K mailbox server is stripping SMTP Received: headers, and making up it's own. Last week when this happened, a reboot cleared up the problem, but it came back (not been able to reboot again, yet). Ed, is this proof enough? I've managed to distill the problem down to a simple set of steps. 1. Send email from my PC to the MSX 5.5 IMS server using blat. Here's the output: Failed to open registry key for Blat profile , using default. Failed to open registry key for Blat Sending x.kix to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Login name is [EMAIL PROTECTED] getline 220 nts126.kimball.com ESMTP Server (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service 5.5.2652.78) ready putline EHLO 051kcornet getline 250-nts126.kimball.com Hello [051KCORNET] 250-XEXCH50 250-HELP 250-ETRN 250-DSN 250-SIZE 0 250-AUTH LOGIN 250 AUTH=LOGIN putline MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] getline 250 OK - mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] putline RCPT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] getline 250 OK - Recipient [EMAIL PROTECTED] putline DATA getline 354 Send data. End with CRLF.CRLF getline 250 OK putline QUIT getline 221 closing connection 2. Here's NTS126's log entries from above message c=us;a= ;p=kii;l=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W 10122002.11.19 13:52:20 /o=KII/ou=Jasper001/cn=Configuration/cn=Connections/cn=Internet Mail Connector (NTS126) /o=KII/ou=Jasper001/cn=Configuration/cn=Connections/cn=Internet Mail Connector (NTS126) XC17P83W[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 1555 0 0 1 c=us;a= ;p=kii;l=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W 10132002.11.19 13:52:20 /o=KII/ou=Jasper001/cn=Configuration/cn=Connections/cn=Internet Mail Connector (NTS126) /o=KII/ou=Jasper001/cn=Configuration/cn=Servers/cn=NTS126/cn=Microsoft Private MDB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 15550 0 1 C=us;A= ;P=kii;L=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W 0 2002.11.19 13:52:21 /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=CONFIGURATION/CN=CONNECTIONS/CN=INTERNET MAIL CONNECTOR (NTS126) C=US;A= ;P=KII;O=Jasper001;DDA:SMTP=fubar(a)kimball.com;0 21590 0 1 C=us;A= ;P=kii;L=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W 7 2002.11.19 13:52:21 /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=CONFIGURATION/CN=SERVERS/CN=NTS390/CN=MICROSOFT MTA C=US;A= ;P=KII;O=Jasper001;DDA:SMTP=fubar(a)kimball.com;0 2159 0 0 1 The most pertinent part of the logs is the event IDs: 1012 - SMTP received, 1013 - SMTP transferred inbound, 0 - Message transferred in, and 7 - message transferred out. Notice there is no 1010 or 1011 (outbound SMTP) Next, here's the tracking.log entries from the E2K mailbox server 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Kcornet1027 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - c=us;a= ;p=kii;l=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Kcornet1019 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Kcornet1025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Kcornet1024 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]1023 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: EDU Migration Question
Paul, I just tested this, it strikes through the Sender and Subject and inserts Message Expired into the body, but it does not delete the message? I sent a single test message to myself and to another user. I did not read either message, set it to expire in 30 minutes. Message to myself vaporized, not in Inbox or Deleted Items. The other user still has the message in their Inbox as stated above? My test bed is EX 5.5SP4 and OL2002 however, does E2K behave differently? ~Mark -Original Message- From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: EDU Migration Question Set the 'expiry time' parameter on the Email? Cheers Paul Standards are like toothbrushes, everyone wants one but not yours -Original Message- From: Fay, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 November 2002 18:45 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: EDU Migration Question I'm preparing a design to migrate campus students from Sendmail to E2K. One of the clients objectives is to achieve like functionality for the following task: To search for specific messages by subject and/or sender and delete them. The scenario being that Faculty or Network staff has sent out notices over some time period and students have been away for an extended period and not checked their mail. These messages have accumulated and the Network staff wants to remove these messages. Today this is performed on the Unix Host. And yes, mailbox size warnings and limits will be implemented. Can this same functionality be achieved on the Exchange Server without a 3rd party tool? I don't believe Mailbox Manager is a solution since it is based on age limits. My client does not want to delete unread messages older than xx days arbitrarily. Mark Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.fay.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The information contained in this message or any of its attachments may be confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited without the express permission of the sender. The views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Sony or Sony affiliated companies. Sony email is for business use only. This email and any response may be monitored by Sony United Kingdom Limited. (05) ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
replace exchange 5.5 hardware
Hi, Can anyone advice what is the best way to replace exchange 5.5 on NT 4.o hardware? we already have new server in place, which has Windows 2000 server. One way I know is shutdown the exchange 5.5 now, and name window 2000 server the same name as exchange 5.5, join the the existing site?? ( this is the only site we have. Anyother suggestions? Thanks Frank _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: replace exchange 5.5 hardware
The bible on Exch moves http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxa.htm -Original Message- From: frank123 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 11:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: replace exchange 5.5 hardware Hi, Can anyone advice what is the best way to replace exchange 5.5 on NT 4.o hardware? we already have new server in place, which has Windows 2000 server. One way I know is shutdown the exchange 5.5 now, and name window 2000 server the same name as exchange 5.5, join the the existing site?? ( this is the only site we have. Anyother suggestions? Thanks Frank _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Weird SMTP header problem
Just a wag and I didn't read the entire thread. Is the received: from header intermittently stripped if the rdns fails? Have you tried doing this manually via telnet to the ims and issuing a helo fqdn? -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 7:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird SMTP header problem But it happens with external mail as well. Our test systems have never shown this symptom. Our production E2K system never started doing this until last week (we can't think of anything that's changed on any of the Exchange servers). It's been running for a couple of months now. Like I've said earlier, this behavior stopped after rebooting the E2K mailbox server, but now it's back! -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird SMTP header problem I recall reporting this and escalating it when I still worked there. Was told it's by design when SMTP mail is transferred within an organization. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird SMTP header problem To summarize my problem, my E2K mailbox server is stripping SMTP Received: headers, and making up it's own. Last week when this happened, a reboot cleared up the problem, but it came back (not been able to reboot again, yet). Ed, is this proof enough? I've managed to distill the problem down to a simple set of steps. 1. Send email from my PC to the MSX 5.5 IMS server using blat. Here's the output: Failed to open registry key for Blat profile , using default. Failed to open registry key for Blat Sending x.kix to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Login name is [EMAIL PROTECTED] getline 220 nts126.kimball.com ESMTP Server (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service 5.5.2652.78) ready putline EHLO 051kcornet getline 250-nts126.kimball.com Hello [051KCORNET] 250-XEXCH50 250-HELP 250-ETRN 250-DSN 250-SIZE 0 250-AUTH LOGIN 250 AUTH=LOGIN putline MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] getline 250 OK - mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] putline RCPT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] getline 250 OK - Recipient [EMAIL PROTECTED] putline DATA getline 354 Send data. End with CRLF.CRLF getline 250 OK putline QUIT getline 221 closing connection 2. Here's NTS126's log entries from above message c=us;a= ;p=kii;l=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W 10122002.11.19 13:52:20 /o=KII/ou=Jasper001/cn=Configuration/cn=Connections/cn=Internet Mail Connector (NTS126) /o=KII/ou=Jasper001/cn=Configuration/cn=Connections/cn=Internet Mail Connector (NTS126) XC17P83W[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 1555 0 0 1 c=us;a= ;p=kii;l=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W 10132002.11.19 13:52:20 /o=KII/ou=Jasper001/cn=Configuration/cn=Connections/cn=Internet Mail Connector (NTS126) /o=KII/ou=Jasper001/cn=Configuration/cn=Servers/cn=NTS126/cn=Microsoft Private MDB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 15550 0 1 C=us;A= ;P=kii;L=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W 0 2002.11.19 13:52:21 /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=CONFIGURATION/CN=CONNECTIONS/CN=INTERNET MAIL CONNECTOR (NTS126) C=US;A= ;P=KII;O=Jasper001;DDA:SMTP=fubar(a)kimball.com;0 21590 0 1 C=us;A= ;P=kii;L=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W 7 2002.11.19 13:52:21 /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=CONFIGURATION/CN=SERVERS/CN=NTS390/CN=MICROSOFT MTA C=US;A= ;P=KII;O=Jasper001;DDA:SMTP=fubar(a)kimball.com;0 2159 0 0 1 The most pertinent part of the logs is the event IDs: 1012 - SMTP received, 1013 - SMTP transferred inbound, 0 - Message transferred in, and 7 - message transferred out. Notice there is no 1010 or 1011 (outbound SMTP) Next, here's the tracking.log entries from the E2K mailbox server 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Kcornet1027 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - c=us;a= ;p=kii;l=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Kcornet1019 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Kcornet1025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT- - - NTS390 - /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Kcornet1024 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 13541 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - -
ADC Delete
Environment: 1-E2k/SP3 on Win2k/SP3; 9-Exch. 5.5/SP4 on Win2k/SP3 Servers spread out around the USA. I just decommissioned a 5.5 Server, replicated it out of the 5.5 and E2k environment. I deleted the CAs in the ADC, but I cannot delete the ADC itself? It have also deleted the Exchange 5.5 server and its settings out of Sites and services. I have search the KB, Tech-Net and archives, but only find articles regarding deleting the CAs. I know this must be something simple that I am just overlooking. Must be having a brainfa#t this morning. Maybe need more coffee. Thanks for you help. Gèoff... _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange Store
I am making my way through Exchange Server 2000 24X7 an my question is basic. I now gather that the store is the total of both the stm and edb files. And as such if this total exceeds 16 gigs then we will be SOL (we don't have the enterprise edition)? Correct. Jim Liddil _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exchange as a File Store
I know this question/problem has been discussed a bit but here goes. First put all the legal/regulatory issues aside. Is there really a problem with viewing Exchange as one large message/file storage system? If keeping it simple for users is what it is about then let them simple keep all the messages with attachments in Exchange. I am facing this issue and trying to explain to management that there are other issues to take into consideration. Does using Exchange as a file storage/access system add a fair amount of overhead to the work a server has to do. Is the work the computer ahs to do significantly greater with this scenario vs having the attachments stored as files and accessed accordingly? The server is a dual processor with a gig of ram. It ahs a single raid 5 setup (~100 gigs) and also is sued as a file server. Jim Liddil _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchng32 and XP
Thanks Chris for your help. Just for the record, and posterity in the archives, should anyone else have a problem running the little Exchng32.exe on W2000 or XP, there is a version of WMS.exe which looks like it was designed to allow MS Mail migration to Novell GroupWise called NTWMS.exe. I found it zipped as WINNTWMS.exe on the university of North Texas site (well, of course! Where else?!). Must say also that it was another look at Slipstick.com which put me on the right trail. Note, it is best to uninstall it when you've finished with it. Happy tappin' Eugene -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 4:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchng32 and XP The old Exchange client should work just fine on W2K, and I don't know of any reason it wouldn't install on XP as well.[1] How many mmf files do you have to import? [1] Done the former many times, never had reason to try the latter. -Original Message- From: McCarthy, Eugene (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 2:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions The old Exchange client. I've got to find a simple way to convert MS Mail mmf files into Outlook 2002 (i.e. without installing OL98 etc. on XP). -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 6:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchng32 and XP Exchange32.exe being... the old Exchange client or the windows messaging client which doesn't work with Exchange.. or something completely different? -Original Message- From: McCarthy, Eugene (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Hi all. Is there a version of Exchng32.exe (or similar) for Windows2000 or XP? Thank you. Eugene _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ADC Delete
IIRC, Add/remove programs, if it's not there then look in the active directory sites and services. Server, services, ADC server name, delete key. -Original Message- From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: ADC Delete Environment: 1-E2k/SP3 on Win2k/SP3; 9-Exch. 5.5/SP4 on Win2k/SP3 Servers spread out around the USA. I just decommissioned a 5.5 Server, replicated it out of the 5.5 and E2k environment. I deleted the CAs in the ADC, but I cannot delete the ADC itself? It have also deleted the Exchange 5.5 server and its settings out of Sites and services. I have search the KB, Tech-Net and archives, but only find articles regarding deleting the CAs. I know this must be something simple that I am just overlooking. Must be having a brainfa#t this morning. Maybe need more coffee. Thanks for you help. Gèoff... _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange as a File Store
Is there an issue with it? No, not really. I don't see it as a good use of resources, however. Exchange 2k Enterprise costs roughly what, 4-5 times the cost of just Windows 2000 server? So cost is an issue. The format conversions that happen in Outlook, while lessened in E2k, aren't completely gone, so there's a bit of a speed hit as well. It can work, but I just don't see the benefits outweighing the downsides. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange as a File Store I know this question/problem has been discussed a bit but here goes. First put all the legal/regulatory issues aside. Is there really a problem with viewing Exchange as one large message/file storage system? If keeping it simple for users is what it is about then let them simple keep all the messages with attachments in Exchange. I am facing this issue and trying to explain to management that there are other issues to take into consideration. Does using Exchange as a file storage/access system add a fair amount of overhead to the work a server has to do. Is the work the computer ahs to do significantly greater with this scenario vs having the attachments stored as files and accessed accordingly? The server is a dual processor with a gig of ram. It ahs a single raid 5 setup (~100 gigs) and also is sued as a file server. Jim Liddil _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange Store
You're not SOL in that you can reduce the amount of content, run ESEUTIL /D and restart the store. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of James Liddil Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange Store I am making my way through Exchange Server 2000 24X7 an my question is basic. I now gather that the store is the total of both the stm and edb files. And as such if this total exceeds 16 gigs then we will be SOL (we don't have the enterprise edition)? Correct. Jim Liddil _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ADC Delete
I have deleted all the Exchange Settings in site and services for this site. The only server that shows up under sites and services is the DC for that site. And there are no settings for that. The ADC for the site still shows up under the ADC Services, but it has no CAs. I need to delete the empty ADC. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete IIRC, Add/remove programs, if it's not there then look in the active directory sites and services. Server, services, ADC server name, delete key. -Original Message- From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: ADC Delete Environment: 1-E2k/SP3 on Win2k/SP3; 9-Exch. 5.5/SP4 on Win2k/SP3 Servers spread out around the USA. I just decommissioned a 5.5 Server, replicated it out of the 5.5 and E2k environment. I deleted the CAs in the ADC, but I cannot delete the ADC itself? It have also deleted the Exchange 5.5 server and its settings out of Sites and services. I have search the KB, Tech-Net and archives, but only find articles regarding deleting the CAs. I know this must be something simple that I am just overlooking. Must be having a brainfa#t this morning. Maybe need more coffee. Thanks for you help. Gèoff... _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange as a File Store
Cost is a non-issue if you've already bought the Exchange 2000 Advanced Server license. I don't think Exchange is a good file system or a good document management system. It has its own benefits and drawbacks. A key drawback to your vision is that Exchange is still relatively difficult to backup and restore compared to a file system. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange as a File Store Is there an issue with it? No, not really. I don't see it as a good use of resources, however. Exchange 2k Enterprise costs roughly what, 4-5 times the cost of just Windows 2000 server? So cost is an issue. The format conversions that happen in Outlook, while lessened in E2k, aren't completely gone, so there's a bit of a speed hit as well. It can work, but I just don't see the benefits outweighing the downsides. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange as a File Store I know this question/problem has been discussed a bit but here goes. First put all the legal/regulatory issues aside. Is there really a problem with viewing Exchange as one large message/file storage system? If keeping it simple for users is what it is about then let them simple keep all the messages with attachments in Exchange. I am facing this issue and trying to explain to management that there are other issues to take into consideration. Does using Exchange as a file storage/access system add a fair amount of overhead to the work a server has to do. Is the work the computer ahs to do significantly greater with this scenario vs having the attachments stored as files and accessed accordingly? The server is a dual processor with a gig of ram. It ahs a single raid 5 setup (~100 gigs) and also is sued as a file server. Jim Liddil _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
deadlines for suportin Microsoft products
Hi All Time ago I read some information about deadlines on supporting Exchange5.5 and WindowsNT4. Does anybody know when those product are going to be discontinued for sale/support? Rgds, -er _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange as a File Store
Just to clarify we don't have Advance Server. And this is not my vision it is the view that a number of management folks as well as most end users have. What I am trying to do is explain why this is not the best idea without them just thinking I am being the IT Gestapo. Jim -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange as a File Store Cost is a non-issue if you've already bought the Exchange 2000 Advanced Server license. I don't think Exchange is a good file system or a good document management system. It has its own benefits and drawbacks. A key drawback to your vision is that Exchange is still relatively difficult to backup and restore compared to a file system. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange as a File Store Is there an issue with it? No, not really. I don't see it as a good use of resources, however. Exchange 2k Enterprise costs roughly what, 4-5 times the cost of just Windows 2000 server? So cost is an issue. The format conversions that happen in Outlook, while lessened in E2k, aren't completely gone, so there's a bit of a speed hit as well. It can work, but I just don't see the benefits outweighing the downsides. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange as a File Store I know this question/problem has been discussed a bit but here goes. First put all the legal/regulatory issues aside. Is there really a problem with viewing Exchange as one large message/file storage system? If keeping it simple for users is what it is about then let them simple keep all the messages with attachments in Exchange. I am facing this issue and trying to explain to management that there are other issues to take into consideration. Does using Exchange as a file storage/access system add a fair amount of overhead to the work a server has to do. Is the work the computer ahs to do significantly greater with this scenario vs having the attachments stored as files and accessed accordingly? The server is a dual processor with a gig of ram. It ahs a single raid 5 setup (~100 gigs) and also is sued as a file server. Jim Liddil _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ADC Delete
Your mistake was deleting the last Exchange 5.5 server using Sites and Services. You should have used the old Exchange 5.5 Administrator. (This process isn't exactly intuitive, I'll admit.) Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Geoffrey Edwards Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete I have deleted all the Exchange Settings in site and services for this site. The only server that shows up under sites and services is the DC for that site. And there are no settings for that. The ADC for the site still shows up under the ADC Services, but it has no CAs. I need to delete the empty ADC. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete IIRC, Add/remove programs, if it's not there then look in the active directory sites and services. Server, services, ADC server name, delete key. -Original Message- From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: ADC Delete Environment: 1-E2k/SP3 on Win2k/SP3; 9-Exch. 5.5/SP4 on Win2k/SP3 Servers spread out around the USA. I just decommissioned a 5.5 Server, replicated it out of the 5.5 and E2k environment. I deleted the CAs in the ADC, but I cannot delete the ADC itself? It have also deleted the Exchange 5.5 server and its settings out of Sites and services. I have search the KB, Tech-Net and archives, but only find articles regarding deleting the CAs. I know this must be something simple that I am just overlooking. Must be having a brainfa#t this morning. Maybe need more coffee. Thanks for you help. Gèoff... _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: deadlines for suportin Microsoft products
It's up there on Microsoft's web site. Go look. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Microsoft Exchange List Server Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: deadlines for suportin Microsoft products Hi All Time ago I read some information about deadlines on supporting Exchange5.5 and WindowsNT4. Does anybody know when those product are going to be discontinued for sale/support? Rgds, -er _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange as a File Store
You'd better have Enterprise (not Advanced--my mistake) if you plan to implement this vision! Sixteen gigabytes isn't much room. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of James Liddil Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange as a File Store Just to clarify we don't have Advance Server. And this is not my vision it is the view that a number of management folks as well as most end users have. What I am trying to do is explain why this is not the best idea without them just thinking I am being the IT Gestapo. Jim -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange as a File Store Cost is a non-issue if you've already bought the Exchange 2000 Advanced Server license. I don't think Exchange is a good file system or a good document management system. It has its own benefits and drawbacks. A key drawback to your vision is that Exchange is still relatively difficult to backup and restore compared to a file system. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange as a File Store Is there an issue with it? No, not really. I don't see it as a good use of resources, however. Exchange 2k Enterprise costs roughly what, 4-5 times the cost of just Windows 2000 server? So cost is an issue. The format conversions that happen in Outlook, while lessened in E2k, aren't completely gone, so there's a bit of a speed hit as well. It can work, but I just don't see the benefits outweighing the downsides. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange as a File Store I know this question/problem has been discussed a bit but here goes. First put all the legal/regulatory issues aside. Is there really a problem with viewing Exchange as one large message/file storage system? If keeping it simple for users is what it is about then let them simple keep all the messages with attachments in Exchange. I am facing this issue and trying to explain to management that there are other issues to take into consideration. Does using Exchange as a file storage/access system add a fair amount of overhead to the work a server has to do. Is the work the computer ahs to do significantly greater with this scenario vs having the attachments stored as files and accessed accordingly? The server is a dual processor with a gig of ram. It ahs a single raid 5 setup (~100 gigs) and also is sued as a file server. Jim Liddil _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ADC Delete
I did remove the 5.5 Server through the 5.5 Administrator. (It is not our last 5.5 server -- there are still eight (8) 5.5 Servers in this environment.) I removed the CAs from the ADC and the went to site and services and deleted the ADC under Exchange Settings. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete Your mistake was deleting the last Exchange 5.5 server using Sites and Services. You should have used the old Exchange 5.5 Administrator. (This process isn't exactly intuitive, I'll admit.) Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Geoffrey Edwards Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete I have deleted all the Exchange Settings in site and services for this site. The only server that shows up under sites and services is the DC for that site. And there are no settings for that. The ADC for the site still shows up under the ADC Services, but it has no CAs. I need to delete the empty ADC. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete IIRC, Add/remove programs, if it's not there then look in the active directory sites and services. Server, services, ADC server name, delete key. -Original Message- From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: ADC Delete Environment: 1-E2k/SP3 on Win2k/SP3; 9-Exch. 5.5/SP4 on Win2k/SP3 Servers spread out around the USA. I just decommissioned a 5.5 Server, replicated it out of the 5.5 and E2k environment. I deleted the CAs in the ADC, but I cannot delete the ADC itself? It have also deleted the Exchange 5.5 server and its settings out of Sites and services. I have search the KB, Tech-Net and archives, but only find articles regarding deleting the CAs. I know this must be something simple that I am just overlooking. Must be having a brainfa#t this morning. Maybe need more coffee. Thanks for you help. Gèoff... _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ADC Delete
The last in the site is what matters. And I sure looks like in your first post you said you deleted it using AD Sites and Services, but the grammar is unclear so you must have meant something else. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Geoffrey Edwards Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete I did remove the 5.5 Server through the 5.5 Administrator. (It is not our last 5.5 server -- there are still eight (8) 5.5 Servers in this environment.) I removed the CAs from the ADC and the went to site and services and deleted the ADC under Exchange Settings. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete Your mistake was deleting the last Exchange 5.5 server using Sites and Services. You should have used the old Exchange 5.5 Administrator. (This process isn't exactly intuitive, I'll admit.) Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Geoffrey Edwards Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete I have deleted all the Exchange Settings in site and services for this site. The only server that shows up under sites and services is the DC for that site. And there are no settings for that. The ADC for the site still shows up under the ADC Services, but it has no CAs. I need to delete the empty ADC. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete IIRC, Add/remove programs, if it's not there then look in the active directory sites and services. Server, services, ADC server name, delete key. -Original Message- From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: ADC Delete Environment: 1-E2k/SP3 on Win2k/SP3; 9-Exch. 5.5/SP4 on Win2k/SP3 Servers spread out around the USA. I just decommissioned a 5.5 Server, replicated it out of the 5.5 and E2k environment. I deleted the CAs in the ADC, but I cannot delete the ADC itself? It have also deleted the Exchange 5.5 server and its settings out of Sites and services. I have search the KB, Tech-Net and archives, but only find articles regarding deleting the CAs. I know this must be something simple that I am just overlooking. Must be having a brainfa#t this morning. Maybe need more coffee. Thanks for you help. Gèoff... _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: deadlines for suportin Microsoft products
Here this page might be helpful: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/support/lifecycle/default.asp Thanks, chuck -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: deadlines for suportin Microsoft products It's up there on Microsoft's web site. Go look. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Microsoft Exchange List Server Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: deadlines for suportin Microsoft products Hi All Time ago I read some information about deadlines on supporting Exchange5.5 and WindowsNT4. Does anybody know when those product are going to be discontinued for sale/support? Rgds, -er _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ADC Delete
I deleted the ADC for the decommissioned Server in Sites and Services, which should have removed it from the ADC Services. So what remains is a shell for the ADC in ADC Services (not to be confused with ADC Sites and Services). Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete The last in the site is what matters. And I sure looks like in your first post you said you deleted it using AD Sites and Services, but the grammar is unclear so you must have meant something else. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Geoffrey Edwards Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete I did remove the 5.5 Server through the 5.5 Administrator. (It is not our last 5.5 server -- there are still eight (8) 5.5 Servers in this environment.) I removed the CAs from the ADC and the went to site and services and deleted the ADC under Exchange Settings. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete Your mistake was deleting the last Exchange 5.5 server using Sites and Services. You should have used the old Exchange 5.5 Administrator. (This process isn't exactly intuitive, I'll admit.) Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Geoffrey Edwards Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete I have deleted all the Exchange Settings in site and services for this site. The only server that shows up under sites and services is the DC for that site. And there are no settings for that. The ADC for the site still shows up under the ADC Services, but it has no CAs. I need to delete the empty ADC. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete IIRC, Add/remove programs, if it's not there then look in the active directory sites and services. Server, services, ADC server name, delete key. -Original Message- From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: ADC Delete Environment: 1-E2k/SP3 on Win2k/SP3; 9-Exch. 5.5/SP4 on Win2k/SP3 Servers spread out around the USA. I just decommissioned a 5.5 Server, replicated it out of the 5.5 and E2k environment. I deleted the CAs in the ADC, but I cannot delete the ADC itself? It have also deleted the Exchange 5.5 server and its settings out of Sites and services. I have search the KB, Tech-Net and archives, but only find articles regarding deleting the CAs. I know this must be something simple that I am just overlooking. Must be having a brainfa#t this morning. Maybe need more coffee. Thanks for you help. Gèoff... _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe:
RE: ADC Delete
Did you remove the ADC software? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Geoffrey Edwards Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete I deleted the ADC for the decommissioned Server in Sites and Services, which should have removed it from the ADC Services. So what remains is a shell for the ADC in ADC Services (not to be confused with ADC Sites and Services). Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete The last in the site is what matters. And I sure looks like in your first post you said you deleted it using AD Sites and Services, but the grammar is unclear so you must have meant something else. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Geoffrey Edwards Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete I did remove the 5.5 Server through the 5.5 Administrator. (It is not our last 5.5 server -- there are still eight (8) 5.5 Servers in this environment.) I removed the CAs from the ADC and the went to site and services and deleted the ADC under Exchange Settings. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete Your mistake was deleting the last Exchange 5.5 server using Sites and Services. You should have used the old Exchange 5.5 Administrator. (This process isn't exactly intuitive, I'll admit.) Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Geoffrey Edwards Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete I have deleted all the Exchange Settings in site and services for this site. The only server that shows up under sites and services is the DC for that site. And there are no settings for that. The ADC for the site still shows up under the ADC Services, but it has no CAs. I need to delete the empty ADC. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete IIRC, Add/remove programs, if it's not there then look in the active directory sites and services. Server, services, ADC server name, delete key. -Original Message- From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: ADC Delete Environment: 1-E2k/SP3 on Win2k/SP3; 9-Exch. 5.5/SP4 on Win2k/SP3 Servers spread out around the USA. I just decommissioned a 5.5 Server, replicated it out of the 5.5 and E2k environment. I deleted the CAs in the ADC, but I cannot delete the ADC itself? It have also deleted the Exchange 5.5 server and its settings out of Sites and services. I have search the KB, Tech-Net and archives, but only find articles regarding deleting the CAs. I know this must be something simple that I am just overlooking. Must be having a brainfa#t this morning. Maybe need more coffee. Thanks for you help. Gèoff... _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives:
RE: ADC Delete
No. I still have 8 other ADC running and one empty ADC with no CAs that I am now trying to remove from the ADC Services. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete Did you remove the ADC software? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Geoffrey Edwards Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete I deleted the ADC for the decommissioned Server in Sites and Services, which should have removed it from the ADC Services. So what remains is a shell for the ADC in ADC Services (not to be confused with ADC Sites and Services). Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete The last in the site is what matters. And I sure looks like in your first post you said you deleted it using AD Sites and Services, but the grammar is unclear so you must have meant something else. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Geoffrey Edwards Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete I did remove the 5.5 Server through the 5.5 Administrator. (It is not our last 5.5 server -- there are still eight (8) 5.5 Servers in this environment.) I removed the CAs from the ADC and the went to site and services and deleted the ADC under Exchange Settings. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete Your mistake was deleting the last Exchange 5.5 server using Sites and Services. You should have used the old Exchange 5.5 Administrator. (This process isn't exactly intuitive, I'll admit.) Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Geoffrey Edwards Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete I have deleted all the Exchange Settings in site and services for this site. The only server that shows up under sites and services is the DC for that site. And there are no settings for that. The ADC for the site still shows up under the ADC Services, but it has no CAs. I need to delete the empty ADC. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete IIRC, Add/remove programs, if it's not there then look in the active directory sites and services. Server, services, ADC server name, delete key. -Original Message- From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: ADC Delete Environment: 1-E2k/SP3 on Win2k/SP3; 9-Exch. 5.5/SP4 on Win2k/SP3 Servers spread out around the USA. I just decommissioned a 5.5 Server, replicated it out of the 5.5 and E2k environment. I deleted the CAs in the ADC, but I cannot delete the ADC itself? It have also deleted the Exchange 5.5 server and its settings out of Sites and services. I have search the KB, Tech-Net and archives, but only find articles regarding deleting the CAs. I know this must be something simple that I am just overlooking. Must be having a brainfa#t this morning. Maybe need more coffee. Thanks for you help. Gèoff... _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
RE: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group
Are you saying that you can use a Move User command and you don't have to be in Exchange NATIVE mode for it to work between Admin Groups? Or are you saying that you can move the users with EXMERGE (or some other tool)? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group You need to be in Native mode to move servers between Admin/Groups in E2K. Moving users does not matter. - Original Message - From: Uso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:41 AM Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group You can move servers between admin groups? So switching to Native mode will allow me to move users between admin groups? Is that what I was missing? Uso - Original Message - From: Greg Deckler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:01 AM Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group Once you get to Native Mode, you can consolidate any number of sites into administrative groups. Proceed with your migration, then switch to native mode and consolidate. That is the process. To get there, you will probably want to install an E2K server into the second site, move the mailboxes to that server, get rid of all your E55 servers, switch to native mode and then move the server to the first AG and then blast the AG/site for your second site. Let me know if you have any questions. I have the following scenario: 2 Exchange servers in one org but different sites that I need to migrate to Exchange 2000 into one single Admin Group. I can move the first server into the first admin group without problems but how can I move the mailboxes of the 2nd site into the First Admin Group instead of creating a new admin group? That doesn't seem to work. I thought about using Exemerge, is there another way? regards Uso _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group
It depends. I would look at MS's site. Sounds like if your moving from one org to another that Exmerge may be the way to go. You might want to research it a bit more to see if it fits your scenario. - Original Message - From: Bare, Ronald A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:14 PM Subject: RE: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group Are you saying that you can use a Move User command and you don't have to be in Exchange NATIVE mode for it to work between Admin Groups? Or are you saying that you can move the users with EXMERGE (or some other tool)? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group You need to be in Native mode to move servers between Admin/Groups in E2K. Moving users does not matter. - Original Message - From: Uso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:41 AM Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group You can move servers between admin groups? So switching to Native mode will allow me to move users between admin groups? Is that what I was missing? Uso - Original Message - From: Greg Deckler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:01 AM Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group Once you get to Native Mode, you can consolidate any number of sites into administrative groups. Proceed with your migration, then switch to native mode and consolidate. That is the process. To get there, you will probably want to install an E2K server into the second site, move the mailboxes to that server, get rid of all your E55 servers, switch to native mode and then move the server to the first AG and then blast the AG/site for your second site. Let me know if you have any questions. I have the following scenario: 2 Exchange servers in one org but different sites that I need to migrate to Exchange 2000 into one single Admin Group. I can move the first server into the first admin group without problems but how can I move the mailboxes of the 2nd site into the First Admin Group instead of creating a new admin group? That doesn't seem to work. I thought about using Exemerge, is there another way? regards Uso _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ADC Delete
Ed: I did not understand what you were saying when I first read your post. However, I did finally realize what you were trying to say. I appreciate your help. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete Did you remove the ADC software? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Geoffrey Edwards Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete I deleted the ADC for the decommissioned Server in Sites and Services, which should have removed it from the ADC Services. So what remains is a shell for the ADC in ADC Services (not to be confused with ADC Sites and Services). Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete The last in the site is what matters. And I sure looks like in your first post you said you deleted it using AD Sites and Services, but the grammar is unclear so you must have meant something else. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Geoffrey Edwards Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete I did remove the 5.5 Server through the 5.5 Administrator. (It is not our last 5.5 server -- there are still eight (8) 5.5 Servers in this environment.) I removed the CAs from the ADC and the went to site and services and deleted the ADC under Exchange Settings. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete Your mistake was deleting the last Exchange 5.5 server using Sites and Services. You should have used the old Exchange 5.5 Administrator. (This process isn't exactly intuitive, I'll admit.) Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Geoffrey Edwards Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete I have deleted all the Exchange Settings in site and services for this site. The only server that shows up under sites and services is the DC for that site. And there are no settings for that. The ADC for the site still shows up under the ADC Services, but it has no CAs. I need to delete the empty ADC. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete IIRC, Add/remove programs, if it's not there then look in the active directory sites and services. Server, services, ADC server name, delete key. -Original Message- From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: ADC Delete Environment: 1-E2k/SP3 on Win2k/SP3; 9-Exch. 5.5/SP4 on Win2k/SP3 Servers spread out around the USA. I just decommissioned a 5.5 Server, replicated it out of the 5.5 and E2k environment. I deleted the CAs in the ADC, but I cannot delete the ADC itself? It have also deleted the Exchange 5.5 server and its settings out of Sites and services. I have search the KB, Tech-Net and archives, but only find articles regarding deleting the CAs. I know this must be something simple that I am just overlooking. Must be having a brainfa#t this morning. Maybe need more coffee. Thanks for you help. Gèoff... _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ:
RE: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group
How about if they are in the same Org? Can you use move user or do you have to use EXMERGE? Do you know if there are any circumstances when move user will work between Admin Groups when you are not in NATIVE Exchange mode? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group It depends. I would look at MS's site. Sounds like if your moving from one org to another that Exmerge may be the way to go. You might want to research it a bit more to see if it fits your scenario. - Original Message - From: Bare, Ronald A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:14 PM Subject: RE: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group Are you saying that you can use a Move User command and you don't have to be in Exchange NATIVE mode for it to work between Admin Groups? Or are you saying that you can move the users with EXMERGE (or some other tool)? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group You need to be in Native mode to move servers between Admin/Groups in E2K. Moving users does not matter. - Original Message - From: Uso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:41 AM Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group You can move servers between admin groups? So switching to Native mode will allow me to move users between admin groups? Is that what I was missing? Uso - Original Message - From: Greg Deckler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:01 AM Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group Once you get to Native Mode, you can consolidate any number of sites into administrative groups. Proceed with your migration, then switch to native mode and consolidate. That is the process. To get there, you will probably want to install an E2K server into the second site, move the mailboxes to that server, get rid of all your E55 servers, switch to native mode and then move the server to the first AG and then blast the AG/site for your second site. Let me know if you have any questions. I have the following scenario: 2 Exchange servers in one org but different sites that I need to migrate to Exchange 2000 into one single Admin Group. I can move the first server into the first admin group without problems but how can I move the mailboxes of the 2nd site into the First Admin Group instead of creating a new admin group? That doesn't seem to work. I thought about using Exemerge, is there another way? regards Uso _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ESE97
We are running Exchange5.5 with Arcserve2000. Have one try this before. I want to install a new 9.1GB drive and then restore the priv.edb on to the new drive. I would run eseutil.exe and Isinteg.exe for the priv.edb on the new drive. Have anyone try this? Thank -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: ESE97 When was your last good backup. Hopefully you do not use circular logging. I take it you are getting database errors and mail is flowing, if I remember correctly. My guess is you had some hardware problem to cause the errors. I would take a good backup and restore it to a machine to see if isinteg finds any errors. If so repair them and then restore that clean database and let the log files backfill to make the repaired database current. I would also look at all logs to see if you are having any hardware problems as it seem this may be the case. - Original Message - From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: RE: ESE97 Call PSS now. Don't shutdown the server. -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: ESE97 Has anyone encounter this error before and what are the step I need to take to fix this. I have read Q314917 and there a lots of information about -1018. Are they the same. Event ID: 184 Source: ESE97 Description: MSExchangeIS ((353) ) Online defragmentation of database 'D:\exchsrvr\MDBDATA\PRIV.EDB' terminated prematurely after encountering unexpected error -1019. Tony N. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ESE97
IIRC, you will need 110% of free disk space of the size of your priv.edb, e.g., Priv=50GB, you would need 55GB. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 4:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ESE97 We are running Exchange5.5 with Arcserve2000. Have one try this before. I want to install a new 9.1GB drive and then restore the priv.edb on to the new drive. I would run eseutil.exe and Isinteg.exe for the priv.edb on the new drive. Have anyone try this? Thank -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: ESE97 When was your last good backup. Hopefully you do not use circular logging. I take it you are getting database errors and mail is flowing, if I remember correctly. My guess is you had some hardware problem to cause the errors. I would take a good backup and restore it to a machine to see if isinteg finds any errors. If so repair them and then restore that clean database and let the log files backfill to make the repaired database current. I would also look at all logs to see if you are having any hardware problems as it seem this may be the case. - Original Message - From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: RE: ESE97 Call PSS now. Don't shutdown the server. -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: ESE97 Has anyone encounter this error before and what are the step I need to take to fix this. I have read Q314917 and there a lots of information about -1018. Are they the same. Event ID: 184 Source: ESE97 Description: MSExchangeIS ((353) ) Online defragmentation of database 'D:\exchsrvr\MDBDATA\PRIV.EDB' terminated prematurely after encountering unexpected error -1019. Tony N. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ESE97
From what it sounds like you need to run Istinteg based on your errors. I would read the Disaster Recovery paper for 5.5 and make sure before proceeding. - Original Message - From: Tony Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: RE: ESE97 We are running Exchange5.5 with Arcserve2000. Have one try this before. I want to install a new 9.1GB drive and then restore the priv.edb on to the new drive. I would run eseutil.exe and Isinteg.exe for the priv.edb on the new drive. Have anyone try this? Thank -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: ESE97 When was your last good backup. Hopefully you do not use circular logging. I take it you are getting database errors and mail is flowing, if I remember correctly. My guess is you had some hardware problem to cause the errors. I would take a good backup and restore it to a machine to see if isinteg finds any errors. If so repair them and then restore that clean database and let the log files backfill to make the repaired database current. I would also look at all logs to see if you are having any hardware problems as it seem this may be the case. - Original Message - From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:31 AM Subject: RE: ESE97 Call PSS now. Don't shutdown the server. -Original Message- From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: ESE97 Has anyone encounter this error before and what are the step I need to take to fix this. I have read Q314917 and there a lots of information about -1018. Are they the same. Event ID: 184 Source: ESE97 Description: MSExchangeIS ((353) ) Online defragmentation of database 'D:\exchsrvr\MDBDATA\PRIV.EDB' terminated prematurely after encountering unexpected error -1019. Tony N. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ADC Delete
Did that fix your problem? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Geoffrey Edwards Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete Ed: I did not understand what you were saying when I first read your post. However, I did finally realize what you were trying to say. I appreciate your help. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete Did you remove the ADC software? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Geoffrey Edwards Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete I deleted the ADC for the decommissioned Server in Sites and Services, which should have removed it from the ADC Services. So what remains is a shell for the ADC in ADC Services (not to be confused with ADC Sites and Services). Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete The last in the site is what matters. And I sure looks like in your first post you said you deleted it using AD Sites and Services, but the grammar is unclear so you must have meant something else. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Geoffrey Edwards Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete I did remove the 5.5 Server through the 5.5 Administrator. (It is not our last 5.5 server -- there are still eight (8) 5.5 Servers in this environment.) I removed the CAs from the ADC and the went to site and services and deleted the ADC under Exchange Settings. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete Your mistake was deleting the last Exchange 5.5 server using Sites and Services. You should have used the old Exchange 5.5 Administrator. (This process isn't exactly intuitive, I'll admit.) Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Geoffrey Edwards Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete I have deleted all the Exchange Settings in site and services for this site. The only server that shows up under sites and services is the DC for that site. And there are no settings for that. The ADC for the site still shows up under the ADC Services, but it has no CAs. I need to delete the empty ADC. Gèoff... -Original Message- From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: ADC Delete IIRC, Add/remove programs, if it's not there then look in the active directory sites and services. Server, services, ADC server name, delete key. -Original Message- From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: ADC Delete Environment: 1-E2k/SP3 on Win2k/SP3; 9-Exch. 5.5/SP4 on Win2k/SP3 Servers spread out around the USA. I just decommissioned a 5.5 Server, replicated it out of the 5.5 and E2k environment. I deleted the CAs in the ADC, but I cannot delete the ADC itself? It have also deleted the Exchange 5.5 server and its settings out of Sites and services. I have search the KB, Tech-Net and archives, but only find articles regarding deleting the CAs. I know this must be something simple that I am just overlooking. Must be having a brainfa#t this morning. Maybe need more coffee. Thanks for you help. Gèoff... _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group
If the organization is in native mode, you can move mailboxes between servers in different administrative groups. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bare, Ronald A. Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group How about if they are in the same Org? Can you use move user or do you have to use EXMERGE? Do you know if there are any circumstances when move user will work between Admin Groups when you are not in NATIVE Exchange mode? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group It depends. I would look at MS's site. Sounds like if your moving from one org to another that Exmerge may be the way to go. You might want to research it a bit more to see if it fits your scenario. - Original Message - From: Bare, Ronald A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:14 PM Subject: RE: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group Are you saying that you can use a Move User command and you don't have to be in Exchange NATIVE mode for it to work between Admin Groups? Or are you saying that you can move the users with EXMERGE (or some other tool)? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group You need to be in Native mode to move servers between Admin/Groups in E2K. Moving users does not matter. - Original Message - From: Uso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:41 AM Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group You can move servers between admin groups? So switching to Native mode will allow me to move users between admin groups? Is that what I was missing? Uso - Original Message - From: Greg Deckler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:01 AM Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group Once you get to Native Mode, you can consolidate any number of sites into administrative groups. Proceed with your migration, then switch to native mode and consolidate. That is the process. To get there, you will probably want to install an E2K server into the second site, move the mailboxes to that server, get rid of all your E55 servers, switch to native mode and then move the server to the first AG and then blast the AG/site for your second site. Let me know if you have any questions. I have the following scenario: 2 Exchange servers in one org but different sites that I need to migrate to Exchange 2000 into one single Admin Group. I can move the first server into the first admin group without problems but how can I move the mailboxes of the 2nd site into the First Admin Group instead of creating a new admin group? That doesn't seem to work. I thought about using Exemerge, is there another way? regards Uso _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:
Issue installing Exch2k SP2
We are adding an exchange 2000 server to an existing site. Currently we have two remote servers running exchange 2k sp2 already and the new server will be in a remote office. After installing exchange 2000, the server reboots fine and comes up properly. But once I install SP2 on it, the IS and SA service will not start. I get event 5000 and 1121. Event Type: Error Event Source: MSExchangeIS Event Category: General Event ID: 1121 Date: 11/18/2002 Time: 8:11:09 PM User: N/A Computer: SB1-ITS-EXC-001 Description: Error 0x8004010f connecting to the Microsoft Active Directory. For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp. Event Type: Error Event Source: MSExchangeIS Event Category: General Event ID: 5000 Date: 11/18/2002 Time: 8:11:09 PM User: N/A Computer: SB1-ITS-EXC-001 Description: Unable to initialize the Microsoft Exchange Information Store service. Error 0x8004010f. For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp. I've already checked KB 305392, and kb 329599 and they are not the cause. Anyone have any information that could help? Thanks in advance. Wilson _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Issue installing Exch2k SP2
Correction on first email.. it wasn't the SA, it was the MTA. Reinstalled the server again and this time I tried SP1 first and everything worked fine. Installed SP2 and MTA and IS would not come up. Same event errors except now I see a an event 8213. Event Type: Error Event Source: MSExchangeFBPublish Event Category: General Event ID: 8213 Date: 11/19/2002 Time: 6:01:05 PM User: N/A Computer: SB1-ITS-EXC-001 Description: System Attendant Service failed to create session for virtual machine SB1-ITS-EXC-001. The error number is 0x80005000. -Original Message- From: Varghese, Wilson Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Issue installing Exch2k SP2 We are adding an exchange 2000 server to an existing site. Currently we have two remote servers running exchange 2k sp2 already and the new server will be in a remote office. After installing exchange 2000, the server reboots fine and comes up properly. But once I install SP2 on it, the IS and SA service will not start. I get event 5000 and 1121. Event Type: Error Event Source: MSExchangeIS Event Category: General Event ID: 1121 Date: 11/18/2002 Time: 8:11:09 PM User: N/A Computer: SB1-ITS-EXC-001 Description: Error 0x8004010f connecting to the Microsoft Active Directory. For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp. Event Type: Error Event Source: MSExchangeIS Event Category: General Event ID: 5000 Date: 11/18/2002 Time: 8:11:09 PM User: N/A Computer: SB1-ITS-EXC-001 Description: Unable to initialize the Microsoft Exchange Information Store service. Error 0x8004010f. For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp. I've already checked KB 305392, and kb 329599 and they are not the cause. Anyone have any information that could help? Thanks in advance. Wilson _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group
Thank you. I presume then that if the Organization is NOT in native mode, you CANNOT move mailboxes between servers in different administrative groups. You then need to use EXMERGE or some other tool like it. Is that correct? This is what I thought, but wasn't sure. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 4:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group If the organization is in native mode, you can move mailboxes between servers in different administrative groups. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bare, Ronald A. Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group How about if they are in the same Org? Can you use move user or do you have to use EXMERGE? Do you know if there are any circumstances when move user will work between Admin Groups when you are not in NATIVE Exchange mode? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group It depends. I would look at MS's site. Sounds like if your moving from one org to another that Exmerge may be the way to go. You might want to research it a bit more to see if it fits your scenario. - Original Message - From: Bare, Ronald A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:14 PM Subject: RE: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group Are you saying that you can use a Move User command and you don't have to be in Exchange NATIVE mode for it to work between Admin Groups? Or are you saying that you can move the users with EXMERGE (or some other tool)? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group You need to be in Native mode to move servers between Admin/Groups in E2K. Moving users does not matter. - Original Message - From: Uso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:41 AM Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group You can move servers between admin groups? So switching to Native mode will allow me to move users between admin groups? Is that what I was missing? Uso - Original Message - From: Greg Deckler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:01 AM Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group Once you get to Native Mode, you can consolidate any number of sites into administrative groups. Proceed with your migration, then switch to native mode and consolidate. That is the process. To get there, you will probably want to install an E2K server into the second site, move the mailboxes to that server, get rid of all your E55 servers, switch to native mode and then move the server to the first AG and then blast the AG/site for your second site. Let me know if you have any questions. I have the following scenario: 2 Exchange servers in one org but different sites that I need to migrate to Exchange 2000 into one single Admin Group. I can move the first server into the first admin group without problems but how can I move the mailboxes of the 2nd site into the First Admin Group instead of creating a new admin group? That doesn't seem to work. I thought about using Exemerge, is there another way? regards Uso _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ:
Re: Weird SMTP header problem
I've been trying to follow along; maybe this isn't the same thing I was referring to. Help me out here: when mail from outside (like this one) hits your org, what path does it follow? - Original Message - From: Ken Cornetet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:19 AM Subject: RE: Weird SMTP header problem But it happens with external mail as well. Our test systems have never shown this symptom. Our production E2K system never started doing this until last week (we can't think of anything that's changed on any of the Exchange servers). It's been running for a couple of months now. Like I've said earlier, this behavior stopped after rebooting the E2K mailbox server, but now it's back! -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird SMTP header problem I recall reporting this and escalating it when I still worked there. Was told it's by design when SMTP mail is transferred within an organization. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Weird SMTP header problem To summarize my problem, my E2K mailbox server is stripping SMTP Received: headers, and making up it's own. Last week when this happened, a reboot cleared up the problem, but it came back (not been able to reboot again, yet). Ed, is this proof enough? I've managed to distill the problem down to a simple set of steps. 1. Send email from my PC to the MSX 5.5 IMS server using blat. Here's the output: Failed to open registry key for Blat profile , using default. Failed to open registry key for Blat Sending x.kix to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Login name is [EMAIL PROTECTED] getline 220 nts126.kimball.com ESMTP Server (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service 5.5.2652.78) ready putline EHLO 051kcornet getline 250-nts126.kimball.com Hello [051KCORNET] 250-XEXCH50 250-HELP 250-ETRN 250-DSN 250-SIZE 0 250-AUTH LOGIN 250 AUTH=LOGIN putline MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] getline 250 OK - mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] putline RCPT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] getline 250 OK - Recipient [EMAIL PROTECTED] putline DATA getline 354 Send data. End with CRLF.CRLF getline 250 OK putline QUIT getline 221 closing connection 2. Here's NTS126's log entries from above message c=us;a= ;p=kii;l=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W 1012 2002.11.19 13:52:20 /o=KII/ou=Jasper001/cn=Configuration/cn=Connections/cn=Internet Mail Connector (NTS126) /o=KII/ou=Jasper001/cn=Configuration/cn=Connections/cn=Internet Mail Connector (NTS126) XC17P83W [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 1555 0 0 1 c=us;a= ;p=kii;l=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W 1013 2002.11.19 13:52:20 /o=KII/ou=Jasper001/cn=Configuration/cn=Connections/cn=Internet Mail Connector (NTS126) /o=KII/ou=Jasper001/cn=Configuration/cn=Servers/cn=NTS126/cn=Microsoft Private MDB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 1555 0 0 1 C=us;A= ;P=kii;L=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W 0 2002.11.19 13:52:21 /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=CONFIGURATION/CN=CONNECTIONS/CN=INTERNET MAIL CONNECTOR (NTS126) C=US;A= ;P=KII;O=Jasper001;DDA:SMTP=fubar(a)kimball.com; 0 2159 0 0 1 C=us;A= ;P=kii;L=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W 7 2002.11.19 13:52:21 /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=CONFIGURATION/CN=SERVERS/CN=NTS390/CN=MICROSOFT MTA C=US;A= ;P=KII;O=Jasper001;DDA:SMTP=fubar(a)kimball.com; 0 2159 0 0 1 The most pertinent part of the logs is the event IDs: 1012 - SMTP received, 1013 - SMTP transferred inbound, 0 - Message transferred in, and 7 - message transferred out. Notice there is no 1010 or 1011 (outbound SMTP) Next, here's the tracking.log entries from the E2K mailbox server 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT - - - NTS390 - /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Kcornet 1027 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 1354 1 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - c=us;a= ;p=kii;l=NTS1260211191352XC17P83W Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT - - - NTS390 - /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Kcornet 1019 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 1354 1 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT - - - NTS390 - /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Kcornet 1025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 1354 1 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT - - - NTS390 - /O=KII/OU=JASPER001/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=Kcornet 1024 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 1354 1 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT - - - NTS390 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1023 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 1354 1 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 11/19/2002 13:52:26 GMT - - - NTS390 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1028 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 1354 1 2002-11-19 13:52:26 GMT 0 - - Contents of file: x.kix [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Lastly, here's what I see from
Re: replace exchange 5.5 hardware
1. Install Exchange on the new box. 2. Join the existing site 3. Move the mailboxes 4. Follow the KB article on removing the first server in a site 5. Leave the old box up for a week (until you are sure that every user has logged in at least once). 6. Decommission the old box. - Original Message - From: frank123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 1:05 PM Subject: replace exchange 5.5 hardware Hi, Can anyone advice what is the best way to replace exchange 5.5 on NT 4.o hardware? we already have new server in place, which has Windows 2000 server. One way I know is shutdown the exchange 5.5 now, and name window 2000 server the same name as exchange 5.5, join the the existing site?? ( this is the only site we have. Anyother suggestions? Thanks Frank _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group
That is correct. I'd try to get to native mode first so you can move mailboxes if at all possible. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bare, Ronald A. Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group Thank you. I presume then that if the Organization is NOT in native mode, you CANNOT move mailboxes between servers in different administrative groups. You then need to use EXMERGE or some other tool like it. Is that correct? This is what I thought, but wasn't sure. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 4:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group If the organization is in native mode, you can move mailboxes between servers in different administrative groups. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bare, Ronald A. Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group How about if they are in the same Org? Can you use move user or do you have to use EXMERGE? Do you know if there are any circumstances when move user will work between Admin Groups when you are not in NATIVE Exchange mode? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group It depends. I would look at MS's site. Sounds like if your moving from one org to another that Exmerge may be the way to go. You might want to research it a bit more to see if it fits your scenario. - Original Message - From: Bare, Ronald A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:14 PM Subject: RE: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group Are you saying that you can use a Move User command and you don't have to be in Exchange NATIVE mode for it to work between Admin Groups? Or are you saying that you can move the users with EXMERGE (or some other tool)? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group You need to be in Native mode to move servers between Admin/Groups in E2K. Moving users does not matter. - Original Message - From: Uso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:41 AM Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group You can move servers between admin groups? So switching to Native mode will allow me to move users between admin groups? Is that what I was missing? Uso - Original Message - From: Greg Deckler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:01 AM Subject: Re: How to move two XCH 5.5 sites to one E2K Admin Group Once you get to Native Mode, you can consolidate any number of sites into administrative groups. Proceed with your migration, then switch to native mode and consolidate. That is the process. To get there, you will probably want to install an E2K server into the second site, move the mailboxes to that server, get rid of all your E55 servers, switch to native mode and then move the server to the first AG and then blast the AG/site for your second site. Let me know if you have any questions. I have the following scenario: 2 Exchange servers in one org but different sites that I need to migrate to Exchange 2000 into one single Admin Group. I can move the first server into the first admin group without problems but how can I move the mailboxes of the 2nd site into the First Admin Group instead of creating a new admin group? That doesn't seem to work. I thought about using Exemerge, is there another way? regards Uso _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe:
RE: Exchange Store
Hi Jim: I hope that the book has not been too tedious for you. :-) The 16GB limit is imposed on Exchange 2000 Server (unofficially known as standard edition.) If the sum total of the EDB file and the STM file exceeds 16GB, then the store dismounts. So, basically, you are right, you are SOL. :-) (This probably should have been more clearly spelled out in the book.) And, with this edition, you can only create one mailbox store. If you suspect that you will need more than 16GB of total message storage, then you should consider purchasing Enterprise. Upgrading to Enterprise is not a big deal, though, you just run the Enterprise Edition setup and choose Re-install. Just don't forget to quickly re-apply the Service Packs! Regarding your Exchange as a File Store message, I use my Exchange server as a file store for documents I need when I travel or am working on customer sites, but I generally don't recommend customers use the store for much storage. My concern is how quickly I can backup (and more important) restore a mailbox or public folder store. HTH, Jim McBee -Original Message- From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 6:36 AM Posted To: Exchange Technical Mailing List Conversation: Exchange Store Subject: Exchange Store I am making my way through Exchange Server 2000 24X7 an my question is basic. I now gather that the store is the total of both the stm and edb files. And as such if this total exceeds 16 gigs then we will be SOL (we don't have the enterprise edition)? Correct. Jim Liddil _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
