RE: Internet E-mail on dial-up

2003-07-17 Thread Roger Seielstad
Could that be because the proper syntax is:

$telnet mail-server-IP 110
+OK Microsoft Exchange POP3 server version 5.5.2654.50 ready
 
$UserName domain\user\exchangealias 

As is I believe clearly spelled out in the FAQ?


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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Tshering NORBU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:30 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Internet E-mail on dial-up
> 
> 
> Freddie,
> 
> Here is what I get when I telnet remotely:
> $telnet mail-server-IP 110
> +OK Microsoft Exchange POP3 server version 5.5.2654.50 ready
> 
> $UserName 
> -ERR Protocol Error
> 
> Then same error whatever i type the next.
> 
> 
> Steve,
> My mail server has dial-up access. There is no problem when i 
> dial-up to it.
> But when I (manually) choose to connect with other ISP 
> dial-up, it does not
> work at all. Cannot send , cannot receive any mail. No error. 
> The outlook
> (2000) just stays that way.
> 
> 
> NORBU
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Freddie Soerensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 5:36 PM
> Subject: RE: Internet E-mail on dial-up
> 
> 
> Norbu (your real name ?) :)
> 
> telnet to the mailserver on port 110
> When it says POP3 server ready stuff, enter
> user YourUserName
> pass YourPassword
> list
> 
> (Needless to say replace YourUserName and YourPasword with your actual
> data)
> 
> See how far you get - if it lists a lot you should have no 
> problem from
> outlook unless your pst file is very large (>2GB) or you have 
> thousands
> of mails in your mailbox and activated 'leave messages on the server'.
> Then it can hang like this
> 
> Freddie
> 
> 
> _
> Freddie Soerensen
> Conares Metal Supply Limited
> Tel : +423 235 5040
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.conares.com
> 
> "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
> user-friendly... Their best approach, so far, has been to take all the
> old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover.-
> Bill Gates. "
> 
> 
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tshering NORBU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Dienstag, 15. Juli 2003 13:08
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > Steve,
> > OK, am using my name now :)
> > The exchange server is not behind a firewall.
> >
> > Freddie,
> >
> > From remote, I cannot telnet to mail server without
> > specifying ports 25 or 110.
> >
> > NORBU (The BOYZ)
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Knight, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 6:57 PM
> > Subject: RE: Internet E-mail on dial-up
> >
> >
> > > Boyz [do any of you have a real name?]
> > >
> > > Is the exchange server behind a firewall, preventing 
> access via the
> > > internet?
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Freddie Soerensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 11 July 2003 13:21
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Internet E-mail on dial-up
> > >
> > >
> > > Try to log in to the POP3 server with telnet and list the messages
> > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: The BOYZ from BHUTAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Freitag, 11. Juli 2003 13:59
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > >
> > > > with port 25, I get:
> > > > MS Exchange Internet Mail service **version** ready
> > > >
> > > > With port 110:
> > > >
> > > > MS Exchange Server POP3 server **version** ready
> > > >
> > > > BOYZ
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:42:35 +0200
> > > >   "Freddie Soerensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >What happens if you try to telnet to the mailserver on port
> > > > 25 and 110
> > > > >?
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -Original Message-
> > > > >> From: The BOYZ from BHUTAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >> Sent: Freitag, 11. Juli 2003 13:33
> > > > >> To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > >>
> > > > >> There is no error message, the status of 'checking and
> >  sending
> > > > >>messages' goes forever and there is nothing happening.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> BOYZ
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:26:21 +0200
> > > > >>   "Freddie Soerensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> >What is the error message(s) you are receiving ?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> -Original Message-
> > > > >> >> From: The BOYZ from BHUTAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >> >> Sent: Freitag, 11. Juli 2003 12:58
> > > > >> >> To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Hello list,
> > > > >> >> On the LAN where there is mail server and on Dial-up
> > > > >>
> > > > >> connection to
> > > > >> >>the server, all my (Internet E-mail) mails work  fine.
> > > > >>But when I
> > > > >> >>dial-up to the local ISP, the mails sending  

RE: Internet E-mail on dial-up

2003-07-17 Thread Freddie Soerensen
Sorry, I don't get that ???

Why $UserName when telnetting ? It doesn't work

Am I missing something ?

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Donnerstag, 17. Juli 2003 13:07
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Could that be because the proper syntax is:
> 
> $telnet mail-server-IP 110
> +OK Microsoft Exchange POP3 server version 5.5.2654.50 ready
>  
> $UserName domain\user\exchangealias 
> 
> As is I believe clearly spelled out in the FAQ?
> 
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tshering NORBU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:30 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Internet E-mail on dial-up
> > 
> > 
> > Freddie,
> > 
> > Here is what I get when I telnet remotely:
> > $telnet mail-server-IP 110
> > +OK Microsoft Exchange POP3 server version 5.5.2654.50 ready
> > 
> > $UserName 
> > -ERR Protocol Error
> > 
> > Then same error whatever i type the next.
> > 
> > 
> > Steve,
> > My mail server has dial-up access. There is no problem when 
> i dial-up 
> > to it.
> > But when I (manually) choose to connect with other ISP dial-up, it 
> > does not work at all. Cannot send , cannot receive any 
> mail. No error.
> > The outlook
> > (2000) just stays that way.
> > 
> > 
> > NORBU
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Freddie Soerensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 5:36 PM
> > Subject: RE: Internet E-mail on dial-up
> > 
> > 
> > Norbu (your real name ?) :)
> > 
> > telnet to the mailserver on port 110
> > When it says POP3 server ready stuff, enter
> > user YourUserName
> > pass YourPassword
> > list
> > 
> > (Needless to say replace YourUserName and YourPasword with 
> your actual
> > data)
> > 
> > See how far you get - if it lists a lot you should have no 
> > problem from
> > outlook unless your pst file is very large (>2GB) or you have 
> > thousands
> > of mails in your mailbox and activated 'leave messages on 
> the server'.
> > Then it can hang like this
> > 
> > Freddie
> > 
> > 
> > _
> > Freddie Soerensen
> > Conares Metal Supply Limited
> > Tel : +423 235 5040
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > www.conares.com
> > 
> > "Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
> > user-friendly... Their best approach, so far, has been to 
> take all the
> > old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the 
> cover.-
> > Bill Gates. "
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tshering NORBU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Dienstag, 15. Juli 2003 13:08
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > >
> > > Steve,
> > > OK, am using my name now :)
> > > The exchange server is not behind a firewall.
> > >
> > > Freddie,
> > >
> > > From remote, I cannot telnet to mail server without
> > > specifying ports 25 or 110.
> > >
> > > NORBU (The BOYZ)
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Knight, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 6:57 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Internet E-mail on dial-up
> > >
> > >
> > > > Boyz [do any of you have a real name?]
> > > >
> > > > Is the exchange server behind a firewall, preventing 
> > access via the
> > > > internet?
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Freddie Soerensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: 11 July 2003 13:21
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Internet E-mail on dial-up
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Try to log in to the POP3 server with telnet and list 
> the messages
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: The BOYZ from BHUTAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Freitag, 11. Juli 2003 13:59
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > >
> > > > > with port 25, I get:
> > > > > MS Exchange Internet Mail service **version** ready
> > > > >
> > > > > With port 110:
> > > > >
> > > > > MS Exchange Server POP3 server **version** ready
> > > > >
> > > > > BOYZ
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:42:35 +0200
> > > > >   "Freddie Soerensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >What happens if you try to telnet to the mailserver on port
> > > > > 25 and 110
> > > > > >?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> -Original Message-
> > > > > >> From: The BOYZ from BHUTAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >> Sent: Freitag, 11. Juli 2003 13:33
> > > > > >> To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> There is no error message, the status of 'checking and
> > >  sending
> > > > > >>messages' goes forever and there is nothing happening.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> BOYZ
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:26:21 +0200
> > > > > >>   "Freddie Soerensen" <[EMAIL 

Re: IMS stops working after Windows 2000 installed on Bridgehead

2003-07-17 Thread Andy David
Assuming you have installed IIS by default as well.


- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Blackstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 6:39 PM
Subject: RE: IMS stops working after Windows 2000 installed on Bridgehead


> Yep. And the SMTP service is installed by default so unless you manually
go
> in and do this, you will have problems.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeff Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: IMS stops working after Windows 2000 installed on Bridgehead
>
> Make sure the W2K SMTP service is disabled.  This will conflict with
> your IMC since they both use port 25.
>
> Jeff
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Earl Mitchell
> Posted At: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 8:44 AM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: IMS stops working after Windows 2000 installed on
> Bridgehead
> Subject: IMS stops working after Windows 2000 installed on Bridgehead
>
> Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 Windows 2000
>
> We installed Windows 2000 on our Bridge Head Server.
> We reinstalled Exchange 5.5.  Everything is working
> except the Internet Mail Services.
>
> Do you know if there are different settings for a
> windows 2000 setup. We came from NT 4.0
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
>
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RE: Internet E-mail on dial-up

2003-07-17 Thread Roger Seielstad
Not $username - $ is the prompt

And I forgot, its not username, its user



--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Freddie Soerensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 7:17 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Internet E-mail on dial-up
> 
> 
> Sorry, I don't get that ???
> 
> Why $UserName when telnetting ? It doesn't work
> 
> Am I missing something ?
> 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Donnerstag, 17. Juli 2003 13:07
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > 
> > Could that be because the proper syntax is:
> > 
> > $telnet mail-server-IP 110
> > +OK Microsoft Exchange POP3 server version 5.5.2654.50 ready
> >  
> > $UserName domain\user\exchangealias 
> > 
> > As is I believe clearly spelled out in the FAQ?
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis Inc.
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tshering NORBU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:30 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Re: Internet E-mail on dial-up
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Freddie,
> > > 
> > > Here is what I get when I telnet remotely:
> > > $telnet mail-server-IP 110
> > > +OK Microsoft Exchange POP3 server version 5.5.2654.50 ready
> > > 
> > > $UserName 
> > > -ERR Protocol Error
> > > 
> > > Then same error whatever i type the next.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Steve,
> > > My mail server has dial-up access. There is no problem when 
> > i dial-up 
> > > to it.
> > > But when I (manually) choose to connect with other ISP 
> dial-up, it 
> > > does not work at all. Cannot send , cannot receive any 
> > mail. No error.
> > > The outlook
> > > (2000) just stays that way.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > NORBU
> > > 
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Freddie Soerensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 5:36 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Internet E-mail on dial-up
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Norbu (your real name ?) :)
> > > 
> > > telnet to the mailserver on port 110
> > > When it says POP3 server ready stuff, enter
> > > user YourUserName
> > > pass YourPassword
> > > list
> > > 
> > > (Needless to say replace YourUserName and YourPasword with 
> > your actual
> > > data)
> > > 
> > > See how far you get - if it lists a lot you should have no 
> > > problem from
> > > outlook unless your pst file is very large (>2GB) or you have 
> > > thousands
> > > of mails in your mailbox and activated 'leave messages on 
> > the server'.
> > > Then it can hang like this
> > > 
> > > Freddie
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _
> > > Freddie Soerensen
> > > Conares Metal Supply Limited
> > > Tel : +423 235 5040
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > www.conares.com
> > > 
> > > "Software suppliers are trying to make their software 
> packages more
> > > user-friendly... Their best approach, so far, has been to 
> > take all the
> > > old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the 
> > cover.-
> > > Bill Gates. "
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Tshering NORBU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Dienstag, 15. Juli 2003 13:08
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > >
> > > > Steve,
> > > > OK, am using my name now :)
> > > > The exchange server is not behind a firewall.
> > > >
> > > > Freddie,
> > > >
> > > > From remote, I cannot telnet to mail server without
> > > > specifying ports 25 or 110.
> > > >
> > > > NORBU (The BOYZ)
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Knight, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 6:57 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: Internet E-mail on dial-up
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Boyz [do any of you have a real name?]
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the exchange server behind a firewall, preventing 
> > > access via the
> > > > > internet?
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Freddie Soerensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: 11 July 2003 13:21
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RE: Internet E-mail on dial-up
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Try to log in to the POP3 server with telnet and list 
> > the messages
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: The BOYZ from BHUTAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: Freitag, 11. Juli 2003 13:59
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > >
> > > > > > with port 25, I get:
> > > > > > MS Exchange Internet Mail service **version** ready
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With port 110:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > MS Exchange Server POP3 server **version** ready
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BOYZ

RE: Mailbox recovery E2K

2003-07-17 Thread Tony Hlabse
After thinking about it, you are right. If the server does go down and you 
delete and create a new mailbox on another server the profile would have to 
be changed or recreated. The reason they wanted to do this was to reduce 
email outages while the DR team recovered the old mail and made it available 
via a pst by exmerge. Or some other method.

From: "Fyodorov, Andrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Mailbox recovery E2K
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:48:34 -0400
If the original server is down? I am afraid that the user would have to
re-configure Outlook profile manually and then log back in, otherwise
Outlook will be trying to contact the downed server and time out.
Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion
-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mailbox recovery E2K
I had a question poised to me to which I never thought about or tested.
In
an E2K/MS2000 domain setup in mixed mode, with muliplte email servers in
one
group. If one of the servers goes down and all the customer wants to do
is
restore email flow for those users affected. He would like to know does
he
just delete the mailbox from the affected users AD account and create
new
ones on the other email servers? I never tried it?  What does the users
have
to do logout of Outlook?
I think deleting mailboxes make new ones and have the users logoff and
back
may be ok.
Thoughts?

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Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

2003-07-17 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000 and XP clients


Hello All.

I work for a school district in Michigan.  We want to send reports to the
State that contain information about our students.  The information
contained in the email attachments must remain confidential and private.
Therefore, I need to provide a secure way of sending reports/attachments via
email over the Internet.

Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated.  

SSL only provides secure logonsright???

Thanks for any help.

Samantha

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RE: Mailbox recovery E2K

2003-07-17 Thread Edgington, Jeff
We take an approach that may work for you...We have a recovery domain
(restore.domain.com) and of course the production domain of domain.com

When a mailbox server in domain.com goes down, the following occurs.

1.  Diagnose the cause of the failure and repair this cause (for
example, replace the hardware at issue).

2.  If the OS on the mail server in domain.com is not damaged, then copy
TLOGS from production server to recovery server (in restore.domain.com)
and then reset the databases on the production mail server... this gives
everyone e-mail service... but they won't have their old data and won't
have their rules.

3.  Now recover the production databases using restore.domain.com and
the TLOGS that you copied from the production mail server.

4.  Once recovered, copy these dbs back to the production server (but
use a different name for the files than the production mail server is
using for the dbs)..

5.  Dismount the reset dbs on the production server, rename these dbs to
something else, rename the recovered dbs (the ones you copied) to the
correct names and then remount... your users now have their mail up to
the point of your failure and their rules back, but are now missing
recent e-mail... 

6.  Copy the reset dbs back to the restore.domain.com domain and then
use exmerge to dump this mail to pst files... then exmerge these pst
files back into the production... you users now have all mail restored.

The link below gives more detail and the MS references for doing this.

http://web.umr.edu/~jedg/Work%20Stuff/Exchange_2000/e2k_disaster_recover
y_informatio.htm

Hope this helps you :)





-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mailbox recovery E2K


After thinking about it, you are right. If the server does go down and
you 
delete and create a new mailbox on another server the profile would have
to 
be changed or recreated. The reason they wanted to do this was to reduce

email outages while the DR team recovered the old mail and made it
available 
via a pst by exmerge. Or some other method.


From: "Fyodorov, Andrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Mailbox recovery E2K
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:48:34 -0400

If the original server is down? I am afraid that the user would have to
re-configure Outlook profile manually and then log back in, otherwise
Outlook will be trying to contact the downed server and time out.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mailbox recovery E2K

I had a question poised to me to which I never thought about or tested.
In
an E2K/MS2000 domain setup in mixed mode, with muliplte email servers in
one
group. If one of the servers goes down and all the customer wants to do
is
restore email flow for those users affected. He would like to know does
he
just delete the mailbox from the affected users AD account and create
new
ones on the other email servers? I never tried it?  What does the users
have
to do logout of Outlook?

I think deleting mailboxes make new ones and have the users logoff and
back
may be ok.

Thoughts?

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RE: Mailbox recovery E2K

2003-07-17 Thread Tony Hlabse
Yes but he wanted to know if the hardware just plain went out the door. No 
OS no nothing. He just wanted to use the exsisting email servers still up to 
take up the slack until th recovery process could take place. It's a long 
story but that what you get for having someone else maintain your system. 
Not that they are not good but there is always finger pointing when 
outsourcing services

From: "Edgington, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Mailbox recovery E2K
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:12:34 -0500
We take an approach that may work for you...We have a recovery domain
(restore.domain.com) and of course the production domain of domain.com
When a mailbox server in domain.com goes down, the following occurs.

1.  Diagnose the cause of the failure and repair this cause (for
example, replace the hardware at issue).
2.  If the OS on the mail server in domain.com is not damaged, then copy
TLOGS from production server to recovery server (in restore.domain.com)
and then reset the databases on the production mail server... this gives
everyone e-mail service... but they won't have their old data and won't
have their rules.
3.  Now recover the production databases using restore.domain.com and
the TLOGS that you copied from the production mail server.
4.  Once recovered, copy these dbs back to the production server (but
use a different name for the files than the production mail server is
using for the dbs)..
5.  Dismount the reset dbs on the production server, rename these dbs to
something else, rename the recovered dbs (the ones you copied) to the
correct names and then remount... your users now have their mail up to
the point of your failure and their rules back, but are now missing
recent e-mail...
6.  Copy the reset dbs back to the restore.domain.com domain and then
use exmerge to dump this mail to pst files... then exmerge these pst
files back into the production... you users now have all mail restored.
The link below gives more detail and the MS references for doing this.

http://web.umr.edu/~jedg/Work%20Stuff/Exchange_2000/e2k_disaster_recover
y_informatio.htm
Hope this helps you :)





-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mailbox recovery E2K
After thinking about it, you are right. If the server does go down and
you
delete and create a new mailbox on another server the profile would have
to
be changed or recreated. The reason they wanted to do this was to reduce
email outages while the DR team recovered the old mail and made it
available
via a pst by exmerge. Or some other method.
From: "Fyodorov, Andrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Mailbox recovery E2K
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:48:34 -0400
If the original server is down? I am afraid that the user would have to
re-configure Outlook profile manually and then log back in, otherwise
Outlook will be trying to contact the downed server and time out.
Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion
-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mailbox recovery E2K
I had a question poised to me to which I never thought about or tested.
In
an E2K/MS2000 domain setup in mixed mode, with muliplte email servers in
one
group. If one of the servers goes down and all the customer wants to do
is
restore email flow for those users affected. He would like to know does
he
just delete the mailbox from the affected users AD account and create
new
ones on the other email servers? I never tried it?  What does the users
have
to do logout of Outlook?
I think deleting mailboxes make new ones and have the users logoff and
back
may be ok.
Thoughts?

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RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

2003-07-17 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
TLS works like SSL, only for SMTP

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000 and XP clients


Hello All.

I work for a school district in Michigan.  We want to send reports to
the
State that contain information about our students.  The information
contained in the email attachments must remain confidential and private.
Therefore, I need to provide a secure way of sending reports/attachments
via
email over the Internet.

Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated.  

SSL only provides secure logonsright???

Thanks for any help.

Samantha

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RE: Mail enabled public folder

2003-07-17 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Some of these things are easier done with mailboxes than PFs.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Steve Molkentin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mail enabled public folder

Gurus,

Ex2K - Native mode

I have a mail enabled public folder (calendar) for a meeting room that I
can e-mail when booking a meeting to ensure it is booked. This works,
however it only tentatively accepts the meeting request.

Some questions:
- Can (and how, if so) can I get it to auto accept meeting requests?
- Can (and how, if so) can I have the meetings it has already booked in
show in the "Free/Busy" grid that displays when I select other users?
- Can (and how, if so) can I get it to delete the appointment if I send
a cancel meeting request?

I am happy to be pointed to somewhere the KB - I have spent some time
looking there, however MS have done something to their support site and
every new page I get up asks me to debug.

All help graciously appreciated...

themolk.
 


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RE: misconfigured sender

2003-07-17 Thread Friese, Casey
more info I gleaned from their IT guy:

Mi.kpafilms.com is the MX record for the server with an internal dns
name of KPAMIS01.kpafilms.com
Mail.kpafilms.com is the MX record for the server with an internal dns
name of EXCBD01.kpafilms.com

Because the MX recs and the actual machine names don't match, is that
possibly stopping my messages from getting to them?  When I look at the
headers of messages they send me, the internal dns name of their sending
server is being sent as: Received: from exbdc01.kpafilms.com
([12.155.200.200]).  The 12.155.200.200 IP is actually the IP of
mail.kpafilms.com, to the internet, exbdc01.kpafilms.com doesn't exist.
I'm pulling at things here, I know this probably shouldn't have a
bearing on whether or not I can send mail to them because I can send to
them from any other account.

Also, if mi.kpafilms.com is down, shouldn't mail.kpafilms.com take over
it's load?  I'm puzzled that since I can send mail from outlook to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], why when I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED], is
the mail not sent to the second MX record since the first one is down?

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Well, let me take a stab at this...

Because of this:
kpafilms.comMX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.kpafilms.com
kpafilms.comMX preference = 5, mail exchanger = mi.kpafilms.com

Due to your MX record, all mail addressed to kpafilms.com is going to
MI.kpafilms.com, which is not allowing connections on port 25.  However,
when you send directly to mail.kpafilms.com, it allows the connection.
-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


OK, why would I be able to send to the mx record of the domain and not
the domain itself?

Example:

Sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] sits in my queue and wont deliver

But

If I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it get's delivered fine

Mail.kpafilms.com is the MX record

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Can we get the full headers for that NDR?

Steven
---
Steven Dickenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Sorry Roger if I butchered the NDR...here's exactly what it says (very
unimformative)
I guess it would be more approiate to call it a Dilvery delayed report,
we never receive and actual NDR and the recipient never receives the
message.

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.

Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed.

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Seeing as Casey has butchered the NDR's its nearly impossible to tell
what's actually happening.

However, its not *completely* impossible. penncolor.com *is* delivering
the mail, and the reject is coming from their end:

> Received: from exbdc01.kpafilms.com
> mail.kpafilms.com[12.155.200.200](misconfigured sender))

Their Exchange (I presume) server (exbdc01.kpafilms.com) is rejecting
the mail from their mail relay (mail.kpafilms.com), as is clearly
spelled out by this slice of NDR.

And, in this case, the fix is the same for Ex 5.5 and for E2k - beat the
foreign postmaster about the head and shoulders with a 2x4 until they
fix their mail issues.

Roger
--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> For some reason, it would appear that your mail server is delaying the

> message, instead of trying the next highest MX record.  Having two MX
> records, with the first being unavailable, is common practice (at 
> least in the *nix world), where the higher-level MX is an SMTP 
> gateway.
> 
> Unfortunately, I can't tell you how to fix this, I'm still on Ex5.5.
> 
> Steven
> ---
> Steven Dickenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Network Administrator
> The Key School, Annapolis Maryland
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:48 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> Server is E2K
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> 
> My company 

RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

2003-07-17 Thread Bridges, Samantha
what is TLS?  Sorry if this is a stupid question.

:)

Sam

-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet


TLS works like SSL, only for SMTP

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000 and XP clients


Hello All.

I work for a school district in Michigan.  We want to send reports to
the
State that contain information about our students.  The information
contained in the email attachments must remain confidential and private.
Therefore, I need to provide a secure way of sending reports/attachments
via
email over the Internet.

Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated.  

SSL only provides secure logonsright???

Thanks for any help.

Samantha

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RE: Mailbox recovery E2K

2003-07-17 Thread Edgington, Jeff
hrm... guess I didn't get that from the original note.

sorry.


-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mailbox recovery E2K


Yes but he wanted to know if the hardware just plain went out the door.
No 
OS no nothing. He just wanted to use the exsisting email servers still
up to 
take up the slack until th recovery process could take place. It's a
long 
story but that what you get for having someone else maintain your
system. 
Not that they are not good but there is always finger pointing when 
outsourcing services


From: "Edgington, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Mailbox recovery E2K
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:12:34 -0500

We take an approach that may work for you...We have a recovery domain
(restore.domain.com) and of course the production domain of domain.com

When a mailbox server in domain.com goes down, the following occurs.

1.  Diagnose the cause of the failure and repair this cause (for
example, replace the hardware at issue).

2.  If the OS on the mail server in domain.com is not damaged, then copy
TLOGS from production server to recovery server (in restore.domain.com)
and then reset the databases on the production mail server... this gives
everyone e-mail service... but they won't have their old data and won't
have their rules.

3.  Now recover the production databases using restore.domain.com and
the TLOGS that you copied from the production mail server.

4.  Once recovered, copy these dbs back to the production server (but
use a different name for the files than the production mail server is
using for the dbs)..

5.  Dismount the reset dbs on the production server, rename these dbs to
something else, rename the recovered dbs (the ones you copied) to the
correct names and then remount... your users now have their mail up to
the point of your failure and their rules back, but are now missing
recent e-mail...

6.  Copy the reset dbs back to the restore.domain.com domain and then
use exmerge to dump this mail to pst files... then exmerge these pst
files back into the production... you users now have all mail restored.

The link below gives more detail and the MS references for doing this.

http://web.umr.edu/~jedg/Work%20Stuff/Exchange_2000/e2k_disaster_recover
y_informatio.htm

Hope this helps you :)





-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mailbox recovery E2K


After thinking about it, you are right. If the server does go down and
you
delete and create a new mailbox on another server the profile would have
to
be changed or recreated. The reason they wanted to do this was to reduce

email outages while the DR team recovered the old mail and made it
available
via a pst by exmerge. Or some other method.


From: "Fyodorov, Andrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Mailbox recovery E2K
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:48:34 -0400

If the original server is down? I am afraid that the user would have to
re-configure Outlook profile manually and then log back in, otherwise
Outlook will be trying to contact the downed server and time out.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mailbox recovery E2K

I had a question poised to me to which I never thought about or tested.
In
an E2K/MS2000 domain setup in mixed mode, with muliplte email servers in
one
group. If one of the servers goes down and all the customer wants to do
is
restore email flow for those users affected. He would like to know does
he
just delete the mailbox from the affected users AD account and create
new
ones on the other email servers? I never tried it?  What does the users
have
to do logout of Outlook?

I think deleting mailboxes make new ones and have the users logoff and
back
may be ok.

Thoughts?

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On behalf of ...

2003-07-17 Thread Boynton, Todd
I have an outlook user who all of a sudden started getting all her mail
delivered to her on behalf of the sender.  For example, when I send her
mail, it shows up in her mailbox and the from field has On Behalf of
Todd Boynton and the mail body is empty.  

This is the only thing left in the body:

-Original Message-
From: On Behalf Of Nick Houtman
Sent: None
Subject: UMaine Today 7/16/03


I'm running Exchange 2000 sp3.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks

Todd Boynton[EMAIL PROTECTED]

== Communications Specialist
== UNET Technology Services, Network Operations
== Maine School and Library Network
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Slow down (memory leak?) in after applying W2K SP4

2003-07-17 Thread Moore, David K
I though I would throw this out there - we have experienced problems when applying SP4 
for Windows 2000 on our Exchange 2000 server (another identically configured Exchange 
server was not affected by the SP4 update).  After applying the SP, the server seemed 
to run fine but eventually ran out of memory (because of a suspected memory leak in a 
lower level component), the system slowed and the IS consumed nearly all CPU cycles.  
Removing the SP and rebooting the server brought it back to normal operation.  This 
server had NO third party software (including no virus scanners) and was a Compaq 
DL580 with current drivers.  The servers only function was as a mailbox server for 
2,500 users.  The Exchange service pack level was 3.

While PSS has no record of a similar problem in existing SRX's, I have found some 
evidence that the problem has been experienced by others:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=SP4+Windows+2000+Slow+Exchange&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=d2f53307.030757.43fa3337%40posting.google.com&rnum=1

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=523a01c3418d%2498339f60%24a401280a%40phx.gbl&rnum=7&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DSP4%2BWindows%2B2000%2BSlow%2BExchange%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D523a01c3418d%252498339f60%2524a401280a%2540phx.gbl%26rnum%3D7

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=SP4+Windows+2000+Slow+Exchange+-5.5&start=10&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=028301c34af2%244ad1a460%24a101280a%40phx.gbl&rnum=20

We currently have a support issue open with PSS (SRX030716601823) - feel free to 
reference this if you open your own case with PSS.  If you have any other details 
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Re: On behalf of ...

2003-07-17 Thread Tony Hlabse
Does have any delegates setup?

From: "Boynton, Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: On behalf of ...
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:06:54 -0400
I have an outlook user who all of a sudden started getting all her mail
delivered to her on behalf of the sender.  For example, when I send her
mail, it shows up in her mailbox and the from field has On Behalf of
Todd Boynton and the mail body is empty.
This is the only thing left in the body:

-Original Message-
From: On Behalf Of Nick Houtman
Sent: None
Subject: UMaine Today 7/16/03
I'm running Exchange 2000 sp3.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks

Todd Boynton[EMAIL PROTECTED]

== Communications Specialist
== UNET Technology Services, Network Operations
== Maine School and Library Network
==University of Maine System

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RE: On behalf of ...

2003-07-17 Thread Boynton, Todd

No she does not.  Come to find out, she doesn't use the exchange server
at all, so at least I can rule that out.

It is an IMAP connection to another server.  I'm thinking it's a client
issue but I can't pinpoint the problem


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Does have any delegates setup?


From: "Boynton, Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: On behalf of ...
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:06:54 -0400

I have an outlook user who all of a sudden started getting all her mail
delivered to her on behalf of the sender.  For example, when I send her
mail, it shows up in her mailbox and the from field has On Behalf of
Todd Boynton and the mail body is empty.

This is the only thing left in the body:

-Original Message-
From: On Behalf Of Nick Houtman
Sent: None
Subject: UMaine Today 7/16/03


I'm running Exchange 2000 sp3.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks

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RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

2003-07-17 Thread Henderson Richard
Have a look at MS Q319267

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From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17 July 2003 15:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet


what is TLS?  Sorry if this is a stupid question.

:)

Sam

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Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:44 AM
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Subject: RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet


TLS works like SSL, only for SMTP

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


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From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000 and XP clients


Hello All.

I work for a school district in Michigan.  We want to send reports to the
State that contain information about our students.  The information
contained in the email attachments must remain confidential and private.
Therefore, I need to provide a secure way of sending reports/attachments via
email over the Internet.

Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated.  

SSL only provides secure logonsright???

Thanks for any help.

Samantha

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RE: Exchange 5.5 Licensing

2003-07-17 Thread Elmerick, Ralph H.
However you have to make the election up front.  So when you buy the CAL you
have to determine whether is will be for the device or for a client.  For
instance I use Outlook on my desktop, on my laptop and on my computer at
home.  I only need one license to the same mailbox on the Exchange server.
You have the opposite of 5 users on one device but they cannot use that
license on each of their laptops, if they each had one. 

Ralph H. Elmerick
NT/Exchange Administrator
330-471-3409


-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange 5.5 Licensing


that is what I was told as well by my rep. It is now a CAL per "device" that
connects. So if a person at one computer opens 5 mailboxes in Outlook it is
only 1 CAL.

- Original Message - 
From: "Chinnery, Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 12:31 PM
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 Licensing


Some time ago (I believe it was last year), I listened to a webcast put on
by Microsoft.  During the Q & A, one person asked the Microsoft rep what the
licensing requirement would be for the following scenario:

5 Mailboxes all being accessed from 1 computer
His answer: 1 license because only 1 machine was used.

Which just goes to show, as had been said mb people much more experienced
with Exchange than me, that it all depends on who you talk to and that you
should always direct licensing questions to your Microsoft representative.


Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Mem Med Ctr


-Original Message-
From: Matt Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 Licensing


You need to have as many CALs (client access licenses) as you do users who
will connect.  As far as I know each user must have their own CAL.  Terminal
Services works the way you're suggesting, but not this.

You might not be able to buy a 5.5 CAL anymore...  You may have to buy
Exchange 2000 CALs (isn't there a Exchange 2003 coming out?  In that case
buy THOSE CALs), since a CAL is "backwardly compatible."

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Stew Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 8:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 5.5 Licensing


Can anyone explain how Exchange 5.5 licensing works.
If we need to have 250 users mailboxes do we need 250
licenses? Is is based on concurrent users--for example
if a company has 1000 mailboxes but at any point only
50 people are connected to the exchange server do you
only need 50 licenses?

Its a bit confusing, I am sure many of you will agree.
We definitely want to make sure we do this the right
way.

Many thanks.

Stew




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SMTP Address Lists

2003-07-17 Thread McCready, Robert
To keep a long story short, I need to try and export all the SMTP addresses
out of our Exchange 5.5
Server in to some type of Excel Spreadsheet/Word Document/whatever file.
Can this be done without
exporting a bunch of unnecessary data, or can it be done at all?

Thanks!

Robert


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NDR

2003-07-17 Thread Steck, Herb
For some reason my Exchange 2k server isn't sending NDR reports to external senders 
when they try to send an e-mail with an attachment larger then what is allowed.  
Instead of getting an NDR it just sits in the senders mail server until it times out a 
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RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

2003-07-17 Thread Johansson Patrick

Another possibility is using pgp or certificates to encrypt the e-mail you
send.

-Patrick

-Original Message-
From: Henderson Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17. heinäkuuta 2003 17:49
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

Have a look at MS Q319267

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17 July 2003 15:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet


what is TLS?  Sorry if this is a stupid question.

:)

Sam

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet


TLS works like SSL, only for SMTP

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000 and XP clients


Hello All.

I work for a school district in Michigan.  We want to send reports to the
State that contain information about our students.  The information
contained in the email attachments must remain confidential and private.
Therefore, I need to provide a secure way of sending reports/attachments via
email over the Internet.

Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated.  

SSL only provides secure logonsright???

Thanks for any help.

Samantha

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RE: SMTP Address Lists

2003-07-17 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Yes.

Use the header.exe tool to create your .csv file and the Directory Export
option within the Exchange Admin program.

-Original Message-
From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 7:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SMTP Address Lists


To keep a long story short, I need to try and export all the SMTP addresses
out of our Exchange 5.5 Server in to some type of Excel Spreadsheet/Word
Document/whatever file. Can this be done without exporting a bunch of
unnecessary data, or can it be done at all?

Thanks!

Robert


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Blocking the Emails that come from yourself

2003-07-17 Thread Bill Kuhl
Is there any possible way to block the spam emails that show you in the from?  That is 
block and still be able to send from home account to work account.

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RE: SMTP Address Lists

2003-07-17 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Yeah, just only put proxyaddresses in the CSV header

Then you will need to parse the exported file and remove non-SMTP
addresses (like X.400, MSMAIL, etc.)


-Original Message-
From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SMTP Address Lists

To keep a long story short, I need to try and export all the SMTP
addresses
out of our Exchange 5.5
Server in to some type of Excel Spreadsheet/Word Document/whatever file.
Can this be done without
exporting a bunch of unnecessary data, or can it be done at all?

Thanks!

Robert


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RE: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself

2003-07-17 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Yes...Exchange version?  I'll assume 5.5, since that's the only one I can
address.

With Ex5.5, in the properties of your IMS, Connections tab, Message
filtering... button, add your domain name in there.  You would add
@luminet.net.

If you are connected via VPN/dial-up, then you are connected internally to
the Exchange server, which means any e-mail you send will be sent via MAPI
internally or OUT through the IMS...it won't be coming in through the IMS.
And if you aren't connected via VPN/Dial-up, then I would assume you would
be sending from a personal e-mail address, in which case adding your company
domain name isn't going to block that either.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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Is there any possible way to block the spam emails that show you in the
from?  That is block and still be able to send from home account to work
account.

Bill Kuhl


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RE: SMTP Address Lists

2003-07-17 Thread Roger Seielstad
I've got a script that does that: (link might wrap)
http://www.wiredeuclid.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&r
eq=viewarticle&artid=2&page=1


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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:50 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: SMTP Address Lists
> 
> 
> To keep a long story short, I need to try and export all the 
> SMTP addresses
> out of our Exchange 5.5
> Server in to some type of Excel Spreadsheet/Word 
> Document/whatever file.
> Can this be done without
> exporting a bunch of unnecessary data, or can it be done at all?
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RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

2003-07-17 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Transport Level Security or Transport Layer Security (sorry I am too
lazy to look up the exact definition)

You can setup the SMTP Virtual server to use TLS. And the receiving SMTP
server should be also set up to use TLS. You assign a digital
certificate to both of them, just like when you set up SSL.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


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From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

what is TLS?  Sorry if this is a stupid question.

:)

Sam

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TLS works like SSL, only for SMTP

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


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From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:12 AM
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Subject: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000 and XP clients


Hello All.

I work for a school district in Michigan.  We want to send reports to
the
State that contain information about our students.  The information
contained in the email attachments must remain confidential and private.
Therefore, I need to provide a secure way of sending reports/attachments
via
email over the Internet.

Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated.  

SSL only provides secure logonsright???

Thanks for any help.

Samantha

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RE: owa exchange 5.5

2003-07-17 Thread Matt
You mean I have to reinstall SP6 after loading NT 4.0 option pack. Are
the ODBC drives and dll on sp6? I Did reinstall SP6 after we installed
IIS 2.0 which gave me IIS 3.0 and then to IIS 4.0.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


You need to install SP6 for NT again before you go any further. Then ALL
security hot fixes. 

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: owa exchange 5.5

Hi all

Just installed sp6a nt and sp4 on this server. IIS was not installed.
Installed IIS and the nt 4.0 option pack for IIS 4.0. Everything went
fine except  I got serveral "The ODBC resource DLL
(c:\windows\system\odbcint.dll) is a different version than the ODBC
driver manager (c:\windows\system\odbc32.dll)". I went to the MDAC page
at MS to download the correct versions but I must admit I am confused.
Which one do I want to download. this server is NT 4.0 running exchange
5.5. I'm alsp assuming this is why IIS 4.0 will not run the default asp
web MS installs. I keep getting 500 internal errors.

Thanks for any Help

Matt

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RE: owa exchange 5.5

2003-07-17 Thread Steck, Herb
Reinstall SP6, then run the exchange setup again and select only the OWA option(custom 
install)

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


You mean I have to reinstall SP6 after loading NT 4.0 option pack. Are
the ODBC drives and dll on sp6? I Did reinstall SP6 after we installed
IIS 2.0 which gave me IIS 3.0 and then to IIS 4.0.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


You need to install SP6 for NT again before you go any further. Then ALL
security hot fixes. 

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: owa exchange 5.5

Hi all

Just installed sp6a nt and sp4 on this server. IIS was not installed.
Installed IIS and the nt 4.0 option pack for IIS 4.0. Everything went
fine except  I got serveral "The ODBC resource DLL
(c:\windows\system\odbcint.dll) is a different version than the ODBC
driver manager (c:\windows\system\odbc32.dll)". I went to the MDAC page
at MS to download the correct versions but I must admit I am confused.
Which one do I want to download. this server is NT 4.0 running exchange
5.5. I'm alsp assuming this is why IIS 4.0 will not run the default asp
web MS installs. I keep getting 500 internal errors.

Thanks for any Help

Matt

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RE: owa exchange 5.5

2003-07-17 Thread Mellott, Bill
the way I look at it..is IF i load anything  new on a server then I should
figure I need to re service pack it.

especially anything which interacts that tightly with the OS

actually you didnt need to bother with the 2.0 then 3.0 to 4.0
you could have jumped right to 4.0 on the option pack.

2 cents 
bill

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


You mean I have to reinstall SP6 after loading NT 4.0 option pack. Are
the ODBC drives and dll on sp6? I Did reinstall SP6 after we installed
IIS 2.0 which gave me IIS 3.0 and then to IIS 4.0.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


You need to install SP6 for NT again before you go any further. Then ALL
security hot fixes. 

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: owa exchange 5.5

Hi all

Just installed sp6a nt and sp4 on this server. IIS was not installed.
Installed IIS and the nt 4.0 option pack for IIS 4.0. Everything went
fine except  I got serveral "The ODBC resource DLL
(c:\windows\system\odbcint.dll) is a different version than the ODBC
driver manager (c:\windows\system\odbc32.dll)". I went to the MDAC page
at MS to download the correct versions but I must admit I am confused.
Which one do I want to download. this server is NT 4.0 running exchange
5.5. I'm alsp assuming this is why IIS 4.0 will not run the default asp
web MS installs. I keep getting 500 internal errors.

Thanks for any Help

Matt

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RE: owa exchange 5.5

2003-07-17 Thread Matt
Ok if I do this Do I need to rerun the exchange sp4?  I think I am still
missing something because IIS should not give me the internal 500 error
When I try to open the web by ip address. The default web site should
open if I'm not mistaken!!

-Original Message-
From: Steck, Herb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


Reinstall SP6, then run the exchange setup again and select only the OWA
option(custom install)

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


You mean I have to reinstall SP6 after loading NT 4.0 option pack. Are
the ODBC drives and dll on sp6? I Did reinstall SP6 after we installed
IIS 2.0 which gave me IIS 3.0 and then to IIS 4.0.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


You need to install SP6 for NT again before you go any further. Then ALL
security hot fixes. 

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: owa exchange 5.5

Hi all

Just installed sp6a nt and sp4 on this server. IIS was not installed.
Installed IIS and the nt 4.0 option pack for IIS 4.0. Everything went
fine except  I got serveral "The ODBC resource DLL
(c:\windows\system\odbcint.dll) is a different version than the ODBC
driver manager (c:\windows\system\odbc32.dll)". I went to the MDAC page
at MS to download the correct versions but I must admit I am confused.
Which one do I want to download. this server is NT 4.0 running exchange
5.5. I'm alsp assuming this is why IIS 4.0 will not run the default asp
web MS installs. I keep getting 500 internal errors.

Thanks for any Help

Matt

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RE: owa exchange 5.5

2003-07-17 Thread Steck, Herb
If IIS was not installed when you installed Exchange, OWA did not get installed.

Look at your IIS manager.  Do you see the Exchange virtual directory?  If not then it 
is not installed.

As with any piece of software, always reinstall the latest service pack after running 
the install.  It won't hurt it.  I know there are OWA updates in SP4

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


Ok if I do this Do I need to rerun the exchange sp4?  I think I am still
missing something because IIS should not give me the internal 500 error
When I try to open the web by ip address. The default web site should
open if I'm not mistaken!!

-Original Message-
From: Steck, Herb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


Reinstall SP6, then run the exchange setup again and select only the OWA
option(custom install)

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


You mean I have to reinstall SP6 after loading NT 4.0 option pack. Are
the ODBC drives and dll on sp6? I Did reinstall SP6 after we installed
IIS 2.0 which gave me IIS 3.0 and then to IIS 4.0.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


You need to install SP6 for NT again before you go any further. Then ALL
security hot fixes. 

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: owa exchange 5.5

Hi all

Just installed sp6a nt and sp4 on this server. IIS was not installed.
Installed IIS and the nt 4.0 option pack for IIS 4.0. Everything went
fine except  I got serveral "The ODBC resource DLL
(c:\windows\system\odbcint.dll) is a different version than the ODBC
driver manager (c:\windows\system\odbc32.dll)". I went to the MDAC page
at MS to download the correct versions but I must admit I am confused.
Which one do I want to download. this server is NT 4.0 running exchange
5.5. I'm alsp assuming this is why IIS 4.0 will not run the default asp
web MS installs. I keep getting 500 internal errors.

Thanks for any Help

Matt

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RE: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself

2003-07-17 Thread Bill Kuhl
James, appreciate you trying to think of a solution. It could be anyone emailing to 
work from home in our organization from personal email address. Guess I will have to 
try for a subject block, so far these emails have been about home loans.

The spammers are sure getting clever. The message in the body is graphic and then 
there is a whole bunch of nonsense characters.

Bill

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself


Yes...Exchange version?  I'll assume 5.5, since that's the only one I can
address.

With Ex5.5, in the properties of your IMS, Connections tab, Message
filtering... button, add your domain name in there.  You would add
@luminet.net.

If you are connected via VPN/dial-up, then you are connected internally to
the Exchange server, which means any e-mail you send will be sent via MAPI
internally or OUT through the IMS...it won't be coming in through the IMS.
And if you aren't connected via VPN/Dial-up, then I would assume you would
be sending from a personal e-mail address, in which case adding your company
domain name isn't going to block that either.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself


Is there any possible way to block the spam emails that show you in the
from?  That is block and still be able to send from home account to work
account.

Bill Kuhl


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RE: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself

2003-07-17 Thread Christopher Hummert
Since we're on the subject, what have people been doing to counteract
the p*rn messages their receiving that have images embedded in them?
Just set up a block on the address or anyone have a more inventive
solution?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Kuhl
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself


James, appreciate you trying to think of a solution. It could be anyone
emailing to work from home in our organization from personal email
address. Guess I will have to try for a subject block, so far these
emails have been about home loans.

The spammers are sure getting clever. The message in the body is graphic
and then there is a whole bunch of nonsense characters.

Bill

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself


Yes...Exchange version?  I'll assume 5.5, since that's the only one I
can address.

With Ex5.5, in the properties of your IMS, Connections tab, Message
filtering... button, add your domain name in there.  You would add
@luminet.net.

If you are connected via VPN/dial-up, then you are connected internally
to the Exchange server, which means any e-mail you send will be sent via
MAPI internally or OUT through the IMS...it won't be coming in through
the IMS. And if you aren't connected via VPN/Dial-up, then I would
assume you would be sending from a personal e-mail address, in which
case adding your company domain name isn't going to block that either.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself


Is there any possible way to block the spam emails that show you in the
from?  That is block and still be able to send from home account to work
account.

Bill Kuhl


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RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

2003-07-17 Thread Dickenson, Steven
If the sending and receiving mail servers, as well as any in-between support
it, TLS is an option.

Personally, I'd encrypt the e-mails using GnuPG.  www.gnupg.org

Steven
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-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet


Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000 and XP clients


Hello All.

I work for a school district in Michigan.  We want to send reports to the
State that contain information about our students.  The information
contained in the email attachments must remain confidential and private.
Therefore, I need to provide a secure way of sending reports/attachments via
email over the Internet.

Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated.  

SSL only provides secure logonsright???

Thanks for any help.

Samantha

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Outlook Connectivity

2003-07-17 Thread William E. Grever
I have one user with a laptop configured to connect to my Exchange 5.5 sp3
server.  All was working well until this user had a Comcast tech. set up her
laptop to connect with her new cable modem.  Now Outlook does not appear to
see the LAN connection back at the office.  As soon as I try to connect to
the Exchange server, I get a prompt to retry, work offline or cancel.  If I
hit retry, the message pops back up as fast as the screen can redraw.
Internet Explorer works fine.  I can successfully ping my exchange server
from a command prompt using only the server name. I can not find any
software or utilities installed by Comcast.  The laptop had Office 2000.  I
upgraded to Office XP SP2, this has not helped.  AOL is installed on this
laptop, and there is a LAN connection with a WAN network driver from AOL.  I
have this disabled.  The only other LAN connection is the one I have setup
and IE is using this one without any problems.  Any suggestions as to how to
get outlook to see the network would be much appreciated.

Will Grever




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RE: misconfigured sender

2003-07-17 Thread Dickenson, Steven
Is the SMTP server on mail.kpafilms.com configured to accept mail for the
kpafilms.com domain?  This could very well be their problem.

The internal names would more affect you receiving mail from them (and it
being blocked by aggressive anti-spam settings).  For the most part, it
should be okay.

Steven
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-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


more info I gleaned from their IT guy:

Mi.kpafilms.com is the MX record for the server with an internal dns
name of KPAMIS01.kpafilms.com
Mail.kpafilms.com is the MX record for the server with an internal dns
name of EXCBD01.kpafilms.com

Because the MX recs and the actual machine names don't match, is that
possibly stopping my messages from getting to them?  When I look at the
headers of messages they send me, the internal dns name of their sending
server is being sent as: Received: from exbdc01.kpafilms.com
([12.155.200.200]).  The 12.155.200.200 IP is actually the IP of
mail.kpafilms.com, to the internet, exbdc01.kpafilms.com doesn't exist.
I'm pulling at things here, I know this probably shouldn't have a
bearing on whether or not I can send mail to them because I can send to
them from any other account.

Also, if mi.kpafilms.com is down, shouldn't mail.kpafilms.com take over
it's load?  I'm puzzled that since I can send mail from outlook to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], why when I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED], is
the mail not sent to the second MX record since the first one is down?

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Well, let me take a stab at this...

Because of this:
kpafilms.comMX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.kpafilms.com
kpafilms.comMX preference = 5, mail exchanger = mi.kpafilms.com

Due to your MX record, all mail addressed to kpafilms.com is going to
MI.kpafilms.com, which is not allowing connections on port 25.  However,
when you send directly to mail.kpafilms.com, it allows the connection.
-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


OK, why would I be able to send to the mx record of the domain and not
the domain itself?

Example:

Sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] sits in my queue and wont deliver

But

If I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it get's delivered fine

Mail.kpafilms.com is the MX record

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Can we get the full headers for that NDR?

Steven
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The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Sorry Roger if I butchered the NDR...here's exactly what it says (very
unimformative)
I guess it would be more approiate to call it a Dilvery delayed report,
we never receive and actual NDR and the recipient never receives the
message.

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.

Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed.

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Seeing as Casey has butchered the NDR's its nearly impossible to tell
what's actually happening.

However, its not *completely* impossible. penncolor.com *is* delivering
the mail, and the reject is coming from their end:

> Received: from exbdc01.kpafilms.com
> mail.kpafilms.com[12.155.200.200](misconfigured sender))

Their Exchange (I presume) server (exbdc01.kpafilms.com) is rejecting
the mail from their mail relay (mail.kpafilms.com), as is clearly
spelled out by this slice of NDR.

And, in this case, the fix is the same for Ex 5.5 and for E2k - beat the
foreign postmaster about the head and shoulders with a 2x4 until they
fix their mail issues.

Roger
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> For some reason, it would appear that your mail server is delaying the

> message, instead of trying the next highest MX record.  Having two MX
> records, with the first bein

Re: Outlook Connectivity

2003-07-17 Thread Tony Hlabse
sounds like a DNS issue

From: "William E. Grever" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Outlook Connectivity
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:13:50 -0400
I have one user with a laptop configured to connect to my Exchange 5.5 sp3
server.  All was working well until this user had a Comcast tech. set up her
laptop to connect with her new cable modem.  Now Outlook does not appear to
see the LAN connection back at the office.  As soon as I try to connect to
the Exchange server, I get a prompt to retry, work offline or cancel.  If I
hit retry, the message pops back up as fast as the screen can redraw.
Internet Explorer works fine.  I can successfully ping my exchange server
from a command prompt using only the server name. I can not find any
software or utilities installed by Comcast.  The laptop had Office 2000.  I
upgraded to Office XP SP2, this has not helped.  AOL is installed on this
laptop, and there is a LAN connection with a WAN network driver from AOL.  I
have this disabled.  The only other LAN connection is the one I have setup
and IE is using this one without any problems.  Any suggestions as to how to
get outlook to see the network would be much appreciated.
Will Grever



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RE: Outlook Connectivity

2003-07-17 Thread Jim Richards
Did the comcast guy enable any port blocking?  Can you nbtstat -A to the exchange 
servers IP address and see the results?

Jim

-Original Message-
From: William E. Grever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 5:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook Connectivity


I have one user with a laptop configured to connect to my Exchange 5.5 sp3
server.  All was working well until this user had a Comcast tech. set up her
laptop to connect with her new cable modem.  Now Outlook does not appear to
see the LAN connection back at the office.  As soon as I try to connect to
the Exchange server, I get a prompt to retry, work offline or cancel.  If I
hit retry, the message pops back up as fast as the screen can redraw.
Internet Explorer works fine.  I can successfully ping my exchange server
from a command prompt using only the server name. I can not find any
software or utilities installed by Comcast.  The laptop had Office 2000.  I
upgraded to Office XP SP2, this has not helped.  AOL is installed on this
laptop, and there is a LAN connection with a WAN network driver from AOL.  I
have this disabled.  The only other LAN connection is the one I have setup
and IE is using this one without any problems.  Any suggestions as to how to
get outlook to see the network would be much appreciated.

Will Grever




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RE: owa exchange 5.5

2003-07-17 Thread Matt
I Understand   Just wondering why the default.asp page will not run.
Not from OWA just from the default web server. Usually I would test the
web portion before moving on to OWA!

-Original Message-
From: Steck, Herb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


If IIS was not installed when you installed Exchange, OWA did not get
installed.

Look at your IIS manager.  Do you see the Exchange virtual directory?
If not then it is not installed.

As with any piece of software, always reinstall the latest service pack
after running the install.  It won't hurt it.  I know there are OWA
updates in SP4

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


Ok if I do this Do I need to rerun the exchange sp4?  I think I am still
missing something because IIS should not give me the internal 500 error
When I try to open the web by ip address. The default web site should
open if I'm not mistaken!!

-Original Message-
From: Steck, Herb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


Reinstall SP6, then run the exchange setup again and select only the OWA
option(custom install)

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


You mean I have to reinstall SP6 after loading NT 4.0 option pack. Are
the ODBC drives and dll on sp6? I Did reinstall SP6 after we installed
IIS 2.0 which gave me IIS 3.0 and then to IIS 4.0.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


You need to install SP6 for NT again before you go any further. Then ALL
security hot fixes. 

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: owa exchange 5.5

Hi all

Just installed sp6a nt and sp4 on this server. IIS was not installed.
Installed IIS and the nt 4.0 option pack for IIS 4.0. Everything went
fine except  I got serveral "The ODBC resource DLL
(c:\windows\system\odbcint.dll) is a different version than the ODBC
driver manager (c:\windows\system\odbc32.dll)". I went to the MDAC page
at MS to download the correct versions but I must admit I am confused.
Which one do I want to download. this server is NT 4.0 running exchange
5.5. I'm alsp assuming this is why IIS 4.0 will not run the default asp
web MS installs. I keep getting 500 internal errors.

Thanks for any Help

Matt

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RE: misconfigured sender

2003-07-17 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Let's go back to the MX record:

kpafilms.comMX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.kpafilms.com
(This server is fine)

kpafilms.comMX preference = 5, mail exchanger = mi.kpafilms.com
(server is not down...it is just refusing connections on port 25, so it's
not going to roll over to the next server).

This is why nothing addressed to @kpafilms.com is going thru but e-mail
addressed to @mail.kpafilms.com is.

Internal name vs. external name isn't going to matter.  That's all internal
to their DNS stuff.

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


more info I gleaned from their IT guy:

Mi.kpafilms.com is the MX record for the server with an internal dns name of
KPAMIS01.kpafilms.com Mail.kpafilms.com is the MX record for the server with
an internal dns name of EXCBD01.kpafilms.com

Because the MX recs and the actual machine names don't match, is that
possibly stopping my messages from getting to them?  When I look at the
headers of messages they send me, the internal dns name of their sending
server is being sent as: Received: from exbdc01.kpafilms.com
([12.155.200.200]).  The 12.155.200.200 IP is actually the IP of
mail.kpafilms.com, to the internet, exbdc01.kpafilms.com doesn't exist. I'm
pulling at things here, I know this probably shouldn't have a bearing on
whether or not I can send mail to them because I can send to them from any
other account.

Also, if mi.kpafilms.com is down, shouldn't mail.kpafilms.com take over it's
load?  I'm puzzled that since I can send mail from outlook to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], why when I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED], is the
mail not sent to the second MX record since the first one is down?

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Well, let me take a stab at this...

Because of this:
kpafilms.comMX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.kpafilms.com
kpafilms.comMX preference = 5, mail exchanger = mi.kpafilms.com

Due to your MX record, all mail addressed to kpafilms.com is going to
MI.kpafilms.com, which is not allowing connections on port 25.  However,
when you send directly to mail.kpafilms.com, it allows the connection.
-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


OK, why would I be able to send to the mx record of the domain and not the
domain itself?

Example:

Sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] sits in my queue and wont deliver

But

If I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it get's delivered fine

Mail.kpafilms.com is the MX record

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Can we get the full headers for that NDR?

Steven
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Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Sorry Roger if I butchered the NDR...here's exactly what it says (very
unimformative)
I guess it would be more approiate to call it a Dilvery delayed report, we
never receive and actual NDR and the recipient never receives the message.

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.

Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed.

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Seeing as Casey has butchered the NDR's its nearly impossible to tell what's
actually happening.

However, its not *completely* impossible. penncolor.com *is* delivering the
mail, and the reject is coming from their end:

> Received: from exbdc01.kpafilms.com 
> mail.kpafilms.com[12.155.200.200](misconfigured sender))

Their Exchange (I presume) server (exbdc01.kpafilms.com) is rejecting the
mail from their mail relay (mail.kpafilms.com), as is clearly spelled out by
this slice of NDR.

And, in this case, the fix is the same for Ex 5.5 and for E2k - beat the
foreign postmaster about the head and shoulders with a 2x4 until they fix
their mail issues.

Roger
--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> For some reason, it would appear that your mail server is d

RE: owa exchange 5.5

2003-07-17 Thread Steck, Herb
go to the actual server itself, bring up a browser http://localhost see what happens.  
If that doesn't work need to look at IIS 

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


I Understand   Just wondering why the default.asp page will not run.
Not from OWA just from the default web server. Usually I would test the
web portion before moving on to OWA!

-Original Message-
From: Steck, Herb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


If IIS was not installed when you installed Exchange, OWA did not get
installed.

Look at your IIS manager.  Do you see the Exchange virtual directory?
If not then it is not installed.

As with any piece of software, always reinstall the latest service pack
after running the install.  It won't hurt it.  I know there are OWA
updates in SP4

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


Ok if I do this Do I need to rerun the exchange sp4?  I think I am still
missing something because IIS should not give me the internal 500 error
When I try to open the web by ip address. The default web site should
open if I'm not mistaken!!

-Original Message-
From: Steck, Herb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


Reinstall SP6, then run the exchange setup again and select only the OWA
option(custom install)

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


You mean I have to reinstall SP6 after loading NT 4.0 option pack. Are
the ODBC drives and dll on sp6? I Did reinstall SP6 after we installed
IIS 2.0 which gave me IIS 3.0 and then to IIS 4.0.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


You need to install SP6 for NT again before you go any further. Then ALL
security hot fixes. 

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: owa exchange 5.5

Hi all

Just installed sp6a nt and sp4 on this server. IIS was not installed.
Installed IIS and the nt 4.0 option pack for IIS 4.0. Everything went
fine except  I got serveral "The ODBC resource DLL
(c:\windows\system\odbcint.dll) is a different version than the ODBC
driver manager (c:\windows\system\odbc32.dll)". I went to the MDAC page
at MS to download the correct versions but I must admit I am confused.
Which one do I want to download. this server is NT 4.0 running exchange
5.5. I'm alsp assuming this is why IIS 4.0 will not run the default asp
web MS installs. I keep getting 500 internal errors.

Thanks for any Help

Matt

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RE: owa exchange 5.5

2003-07-17 Thread Matt
Right that's where I get the 500 internal error. So I know the ODBC dll
and ODBC Driver manger are reported different versions but I did not
think this would stop an asp page from opening. I checked the MS mdac
download page but I do not know which one to download??!!

-Original Message-
From: Steck, Herb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


go to the actual server itself, bring up a browser http://localhost see
what happens.  If that doesn't work need to look at IIS 

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


I Understand   Just wondering why the default.asp page will not run.
Not from OWA just from the default web server. Usually I would test the
web portion before moving on to OWA!

-Original Message-
From: Steck, Herb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


If IIS was not installed when you installed Exchange, OWA did not get
installed.

Look at your IIS manager.  Do you see the Exchange virtual directory? If
not then it is not installed.

As with any piece of software, always reinstall the latest service pack
after running the install.  It won't hurt it.  I know there are OWA
updates in SP4

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


Ok if I do this Do I need to rerun the exchange sp4?  I think I am still
missing something because IIS should not give me the internal 500 error
When I try to open the web by ip address. The default web site should
open if I'm not mistaken!!

-Original Message-
From: Steck, Herb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


Reinstall SP6, then run the exchange setup again and select only the OWA
option(custom install)

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


You mean I have to reinstall SP6 after loading NT 4.0 option pack. Are
the ODBC drives and dll on sp6? I Did reinstall SP6 after we installed
IIS 2.0 which gave me IIS 3.0 and then to IIS 4.0.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: owa exchange 5.5


You need to install SP6 for NT again before you go any further. Then ALL
security hot fixes. 

-Original Message-
From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: owa exchange 5.5

Hi all

Just installed sp6a nt and sp4 on this server. IIS was not installed.
Installed IIS and the nt 4.0 option pack for IIS 4.0. Everything went
fine except  I got serveral "The ODBC resource DLL
(c:\windows\system\odbcint.dll) is a different version than the ODBC
driver manager (c:\windows\system\odbc32.dll)". I went to the MDAC page
at MS to download the correct versions but I must admit I am confused.
Which one do I want to download. this server is NT 4.0 running exchange
5.5. I'm alsp assuming this is why IIS 4.0 will not run the default asp
web MS installs. I keep getting 500 internal errors.

Thanks for any Help

Matt

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RE: Outlook Connectivity

2003-07-17 Thread William E. Grever
I get a NetBIOS Remote Machine Name Table and mac address with the nbtstat
-A to the Ex server's IP address.

Will

-Original Message-
From: Jim Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Connectivity

Did the comcast guy enable any port blocking?  Can you nbtstat -A to the
exchange servers IP address and see the results?

Jim

-Original Message-
From: William E. Grever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 5:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook Connectivity


I have one user with a laptop configured to connect to my Exchange 5.5 sp3
server.  All was working well until this user had a Comcast tech. set up her
laptop to connect with her new cable modem.  Now Outlook does not appear to
see the LAN connection back at the office.  As soon as I try to connect to
the Exchange server, I get a prompt to retry, work offline or cancel.  If I
hit retry, the message pops back up as fast as the screen can redraw.
Internet Explorer works fine.  I can successfully ping my exchange server
from a command prompt using only the server name. I can not find any
software or utilities installed by Comcast.  The laptop had Office 2000.  I
upgraded to Office XP SP2, this has not helped.  AOL is installed on this
laptop, and there is a LAN connection with a WAN network driver from AOL.  I
have this disabled.  The only other LAN connection is the one I have setup
and IE is using this one without any problems.  Any suggestions as to how to
get outlook to see the network would be much appreciated.

Will Grever




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RE: Outlook Connectivity

2003-07-17 Thread Jim Richards
sounds good...   H (going away to ponder again)

-Original Message-
From: William E. Grever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 5:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Connectivity


I get a NetBIOS Remote Machine Name Table and mac address with the nbtstat
-A to the Ex server's IP address.

Will

-Original Message-
From: Jim Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Connectivity

Did the comcast guy enable any port blocking?  Can you nbtstat -A to the
exchange servers IP address and see the results?

Jim

-Original Message-
From: William E. Grever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 5:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook Connectivity


I have one user with a laptop configured to connect to my Exchange 5.5 sp3
server.  All was working well until this user had a Comcast tech. set up her
laptop to connect with her new cable modem.  Now Outlook does not appear to
see the LAN connection back at the office.  As soon as I try to connect to
the Exchange server, I get a prompt to retry, work offline or cancel.  If I
hit retry, the message pops back up as fast as the screen can redraw.
Internet Explorer works fine.  I can successfully ping my exchange server
from a command prompt using only the server name. I can not find any
software or utilities installed by Comcast.  The laptop had Office 2000.  I
upgraded to Office XP SP2, this has not helped.  AOL is installed on this
laptop, and there is a LAN connection with a WAN network driver from AOL.  I
have this disabled.  The only other LAN connection is the one I have setup
and IE is using this one without any problems.  Any suggestions as to how to
get outlook to see the network would be much appreciated.

Will Grever




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RE: misconfigured sender

2003-07-17 Thread Dickenson, Steven
It doesn't matter whether the host is up and not accepting SMTP connections
or completely down.  The sending mail server will try the next highest MX
record.  The only time a sending mail server will give up is if NONE of the
MXs are available and the retry period is up, OR if it receives an actual
SMTP error code from the receiving server.

So, either Casey's SMTP server is not configured to try all possible MX
records (a violation of RFC2821 I believe), OR mail.kpafilmes.com isn't
configured to accept mail for the kpafilms.com domain.

At least, that's what I think... ;)

Steven
---
Steven Dickenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Let's go back to the MX record:

kpafilms.comMX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.kpafilms.com
(This server is fine)

kpafilms.comMX preference = 5, mail exchanger = mi.kpafilms.com
(server is not down...it is just refusing connections on port 25, so it's
not going to roll over to the next server).

This is why nothing addressed to @kpafilms.com is going thru but e-mail
addressed to @mail.kpafilms.com is.

Internal name vs. external name isn't going to matter.  That's all internal
to their DNS stuff.

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


more info I gleaned from their IT guy:

Mi.kpafilms.com is the MX record for the server with an internal dns name of
KPAMIS01.kpafilms.com Mail.kpafilms.com is the MX record for the server with
an internal dns name of EXCBD01.kpafilms.com

Because the MX recs and the actual machine names don't match, is that
possibly stopping my messages from getting to them?  When I look at the
headers of messages they send me, the internal dns name of their sending
server is being sent as: Received: from exbdc01.kpafilms.com
([12.155.200.200]).  The 12.155.200.200 IP is actually the IP of
mail.kpafilms.com, to the internet, exbdc01.kpafilms.com doesn't exist. I'm
pulling at things here, I know this probably shouldn't have a bearing on
whether or not I can send mail to them because I can send to them from any
other account.

Also, if mi.kpafilms.com is down, shouldn't mail.kpafilms.com take over it's
load?  I'm puzzled that since I can send mail from outlook to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], why when I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED], is the
mail not sent to the second MX record since the first one is down?

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Well, let me take a stab at this...

Because of this:
kpafilms.comMX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.kpafilms.com
kpafilms.comMX preference = 5, mail exchanger = mi.kpafilms.com

Due to your MX record, all mail addressed to kpafilms.com is going to
MI.kpafilms.com, which is not allowing connections on port 25.  However,
when you send directly to mail.kpafilms.com, it allows the connection.
-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


OK, why would I be able to send to the mx record of the domain and not the
domain itself?

Example:

Sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] sits in my queue and wont deliver

But

If I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it get's delivered fine

Mail.kpafilms.com is the MX record

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Can we get the full headers for that NDR?

Steven
---
Steven Dickenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Sorry Roger if I butchered the NDR...here's exactly what it says (very
unimformative)
I guess it would be more approiate to call it a Dilvery delayed report, we
never receive and actual NDR and the recipient never receives the message.

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.

Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed.

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Seeing as Casey has butchered the NDR's its nearly impossible to tell what's
actually happening.

However, its not *completely* impossible. penncolor.com *is* delivering the
mail, and the

RE: Outlook Connectivity

2003-07-17 Thread William E. Grever
The plot thickens.  I cannot browse my network.  The Network Identification
in the System Properties says I am in my Domain (please no J. Seinfeld
references) not in a Comcast workgroup.  But the Network ID and Properties
buttons are grayed out and there is a note saying "The identification of the
computer cannot be changed because -Networking is not installed or is not
properly configured.

Will

-Original Message-
From: Jim Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Connectivity

sounds good...   H (going away to ponder again)

-Original Message-
From: William E. Grever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 5:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Connectivity


I get a NetBIOS Remote Machine Name Table and mac address with the nbtstat
-A to the Ex server's IP address.

Will

-Original Message-
From: Jim Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Connectivity

Did the comcast guy enable any port blocking?  Can you nbtstat -A to the
exchange servers IP address and see the results?

Jim

-Original Message-
From: William E. Grever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 5:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook Connectivity


I have one user with a laptop configured to connect to my Exchange 5.5 sp3
server.  All was working well until this user had a Comcast tech. set up her
laptop to connect with her new cable modem.  Now Outlook does not appear to
see the LAN connection back at the office.  As soon as I try to connect to
the Exchange server, I get a prompt to retry, work offline or cancel.  If I
hit retry, the message pops back up as fast as the screen can redraw.
Internet Explorer works fine.  I can successfully ping my exchange server
from a command prompt using only the server name. I can not find any
software or utilities installed by Comcast.  The laptop had Office 2000.  I
upgraded to Office XP SP2, this has not helped.  AOL is installed on this
laptop, and there is a LAN connection with a WAN network driver from AOL.  I
have this disabled.  The only other LAN connection is the one I have setup
and IE is using this one without any problems.  Any suggestions as to how to
get outlook to see the network would be much appreciated.

Will Grever




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RE: Outlook Connectivity

2003-07-17 Thread William E. Grever
Ok...I feel like a dunce.  Microsoft Networking Client had been removed.

Will

-Original Message-
From: William E. Grever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Connectivity

The plot thickens.  I cannot browse my network.  The Network Identification
in the System Properties says I am in my Domain (please no J. Seinfeld
references) not in a Comcast workgroup.  But the Network ID and Properties
buttons are grayed out and there is a note saying "The identification of the
computer cannot be changed because -Networking is not installed or is not
properly configured.

Will

-Original Message-
From: Jim Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Connectivity

sounds good...   H (going away to ponder again)

-Original Message-
From: William E. Grever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 5:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Connectivity


I get a NetBIOS Remote Machine Name Table and mac address with the nbtstat
-A to the Ex server's IP address.

Will

-Original Message-
From: Jim Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Connectivity

Did the comcast guy enable any port blocking?  Can you nbtstat -A to the
exchange servers IP address and see the results?

Jim

-Original Message-
From: William E. Grever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 5:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook Connectivity


I have one user with a laptop configured to connect to my Exchange 5.5 sp3
server.  All was working well until this user had a Comcast tech. set up her
laptop to connect with her new cable modem.  Now Outlook does not appear to
see the LAN connection back at the office.  As soon as I try to connect to
the Exchange server, I get a prompt to retry, work offline or cancel.  If I
hit retry, the message pops back up as fast as the screen can redraw.
Internet Explorer works fine.  I can successfully ping my exchange server
from a command prompt using only the server name. I can not find any
software or utilities installed by Comcast.  The laptop had Office 2000.  I
upgraded to Office XP SP2, this has not helped.  AOL is installed on this
laptop, and there is a LAN connection with a WAN network driver from AOL.  I
have this disabled.  The only other LAN connection is the one I have setup
and IE is using this one without any problems.  Any suggestions as to how to
get outlook to see the network would be much appreciated.

Will Grever




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RE: misconfigured sender

2003-07-17 Thread Friese, Casey
That makes perfect sense James...thanks for the info

Kpafilms however does receive mail from all other domains but our's

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Let's go back to the MX record:

kpafilms.comMX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.kpafilms.com
(This server is fine)

kpafilms.comMX preference = 5, mail exchanger = mi.kpafilms.com
(server is not down...it is just refusing connections on port 25, so
it's not going to roll over to the next server).

This is why nothing addressed to @kpafilms.com is going thru but e-mail
addressed to @mail.kpafilms.com is.

Internal name vs. external name isn't going to matter.  That's all
internal to their DNS stuff.

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


more info I gleaned from their IT guy:

Mi.kpafilms.com is the MX record for the server with an internal dns
name of KPAMIS01.kpafilms.com Mail.kpafilms.com is the MX record for the
server with an internal dns name of EXCBD01.kpafilms.com

Because the MX recs and the actual machine names don't match, is that
possibly stopping my messages from getting to them?  When I look at the
headers of messages they send me, the internal dns name of their sending
server is being sent as: Received: from exbdc01.kpafilms.com
([12.155.200.200]).  The 12.155.200.200 IP is actually the IP of
mail.kpafilms.com, to the internet, exbdc01.kpafilms.com doesn't exist.
I'm pulling at things here, I know this probably shouldn't have a
bearing on whether or not I can send mail to them because I can send to
them from any other account.

Also, if mi.kpafilms.com is down, shouldn't mail.kpafilms.com take over
it's load?  I'm puzzled that since I can send mail from outlook to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], why when I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED], is
the mail not sent to the second MX record since the first one is down?

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Well, let me take a stab at this...

Because of this:
kpafilms.comMX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.kpafilms.com
kpafilms.comMX preference = 5, mail exchanger = mi.kpafilms.com

Due to your MX record, all mail addressed to kpafilms.com is going to
MI.kpafilms.com, which is not allowing connections on port 25.  However,
when you send directly to mail.kpafilms.com, it allows the connection.
-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


OK, why would I be able to send to the mx record of the domain and not
the domain itself?

Example:

Sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] sits in my queue and wont deliver

But

If I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it get's delivered fine

Mail.kpafilms.com is the MX record

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Can we get the full headers for that NDR?

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-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Sorry Roger if I butchered the NDR...here's exactly what it says (very
unimformative)
I guess it would be more approiate to call it a Dilvery delayed report,
we never receive and actual NDR and the recipient never receives the
message.

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.

Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed.

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Seeing as Casey has butchered the NDR's its nearly impossible to tell
what's actually happening.

However, its not *completely* impossible. penncolor.com *is* delivering
the mail, and the reject is coming from their end:

> Received: from exbdc01.kpafilms.com
> mail.kpafilms.com[12.155.200.200](misconfigured sender))

Their Exchange (I presume) server (exbdc01.kpafilms.com) is rejecting
the mail from their mail relay (mail.kpafilms.com), as is clearly
spelled out by this slice of NDR.

And, in this case, the fix is the same for Ex 5.5 and for E2k - beat the
foreign postmaster about the head and shoulders with a 2x4 until they
fix their mail issues.

Roger
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS 

RE: misconfigured sender

2003-07-17 Thread Friese, Casey
I should say, is able to receive mail form all other domains but ours.

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


That makes perfect sense James...thanks for the info

Kpafilms however does receive mail from all other domains but our's

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Let's go back to the MX record:

kpafilms.comMX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.kpafilms.com
(This server is fine)

kpafilms.comMX preference = 5, mail exchanger = mi.kpafilms.com
(server is not down...it is just refusing connections on port 25, so
it's not going to roll over to the next server).

This is why nothing addressed to @kpafilms.com is going thru but e-mail
addressed to @mail.kpafilms.com is.

Internal name vs. external name isn't going to matter.  That's all
internal to their DNS stuff.

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


more info I gleaned from their IT guy:

Mi.kpafilms.com is the MX record for the server with an internal dns
name of KPAMIS01.kpafilms.com Mail.kpafilms.com is the MX record for the
server with an internal dns name of EXCBD01.kpafilms.com

Because the MX recs and the actual machine names don't match, is that
possibly stopping my messages from getting to them?  When I look at the
headers of messages they send me, the internal dns name of their sending
server is being sent as: Received: from exbdc01.kpafilms.com
([12.155.200.200]).  The 12.155.200.200 IP is actually the IP of
mail.kpafilms.com, to the internet, exbdc01.kpafilms.com doesn't exist.
I'm pulling at things here, I know this probably shouldn't have a
bearing on whether or not I can send mail to them because I can send to
them from any other account.

Also, if mi.kpafilms.com is down, shouldn't mail.kpafilms.com take over
it's load?  I'm puzzled that since I can send mail from outlook to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], why when I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED], is
the mail not sent to the second MX record since the first one is down?

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Well, let me take a stab at this...

Because of this:
kpafilms.comMX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.kpafilms.com
kpafilms.comMX preference = 5, mail exchanger = mi.kpafilms.com

Due to your MX record, all mail addressed to kpafilms.com is going to
MI.kpafilms.com, which is not allowing connections on port 25.  However,
when you send directly to mail.kpafilms.com, it allows the connection.
-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


OK, why would I be able to send to the mx record of the domain and not
the domain itself?

Example:

Sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] sits in my queue and wont deliver

But

If I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it get's delivered fine

Mail.kpafilms.com is the MX record

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Can we get the full headers for that NDR?

Steven
---
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Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Sorry Roger if I butchered the NDR...here's exactly what it says (very
unimformative)
I guess it would be more approiate to call it a Dilvery delayed report,
we never receive and actual NDR and the recipient never receives the
message.

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.

Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed.

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Seeing as Casey has butchered the NDR's its nearly impossible to tell
what's actually happening.

However, its not *completely* impossible. penncolor.com *is* delivering
the mail, and the reject is coming from their end:

> Received: from exbdc01.kpafilms.com 
> mail.kpafilms.com[12.155.200.200](misconfigured sender))

Their Exchange (I presume) server (exbdc01.kpafilms.com) is rejecting
the mail from their mail relay (mail.kpafilms.com), as is clearly
spelled out by this slice of NDR.

And, in this case, the fix is the same fo

RE: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself

2003-07-17 Thread East, Bill
Blackhole the sites at your router. It's a courtesy issue to notify the
admins for the IP block. The images almost always link back to the sites
and are not imbedded in the images themselves.

-- 
be - MOS



If God dropped acid, would he see people? -- Steven Wright 


> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:57 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself
> 
> 
> Since we're on the subject, what have people been doing to counteract
> the p*rn messages their receiving that have images embedded in them?
> Just set up a block on the address or anyone have a more inventive
> solution?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Kuhl
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:47 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself
> 
> 
> James, appreciate you trying to think of a solution. It could 
> be anyone
> emailing to work from home in our organization from personal email
> address. Guess I will have to try for a subject block, so far these
> emails have been about home loans.
> 
> The spammers are sure getting clever. The message in the body 
> is graphic
> and then there is a whole bunch of nonsense characters.
> 
> Bill
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:26 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself
> 
> 
> Yes...Exchange version?  I'll assume 5.5, since that's the only one I
> can address.
> 
> With Ex5.5, in the properties of your IMS, Connections tab, Message
> filtering... button, add your domain name in there.  You would add
> @luminet.net.
> 
> If you are connected via VPN/dial-up, then you are connected 
> internally
> to the Exchange server, which means any e-mail you send will 
> be sent via
> MAPI internally or OUT through the IMS...it won't be coming in through
> the IMS. And if you aren't connected via VPN/Dial-up, then I would
> assume you would be sending from a personal e-mail address, in which
> case adding your company domain name isn't going to block that either.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Kuhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:06 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself
> 
> 
> Is there any possible way to block the spam emails that show 
> you in the
> from?  That is block and still be able to send from home 
> account to work
> account.
> 
> Bill Kuhl
> 
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RE: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself

2003-07-17 Thread Diane Poremsky
Use Outlook 2003 :) Except not on porn that comes to public folders - MS
refuses to block images in posts - they say it was a bug that it worked in
earlier beta builds.  

When the images are included in the message, use autopreview to instead of
preview pane scan for spam to delete. 

We're doing domain blocking and it works well for most spam, but the porn
seems to come from too many legit domains and is difficult to block. 


-Original Message-
Since we're on the subject, what have people been doing to counteract the
p*rn messages their receiving that have images embedded in them?
Just set up a block on the address or anyone have a more inventive solution?


Reviewing GFI Mail Essentials v8


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RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

2003-07-17 Thread Johansson Patrick

Ok, maybe I've had a few too many beers but why in the world is everybody
suggesting TLS. It's a bother to set up and you have to do it with every
mail server you want to have secure communications with. Great, the
communications are secure but how about the actual e-mail? Correct me if I'm
wrong but the easiest way in this instance would be to just encrypt the
e-mail. Windows does provide CA and you can always get another certificate
from a known source. Another way to go is to use pgp or some offshoot of
that. I don't know but sometimes we (designers/administrators) get a little
over excited using technology we don't really have to use.
Well, just my 5 cents.

-Patrick

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17. heinäkuuta 2003 19:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

If the sending and receiving mail servers, as well as any in-between support
it, TLS is an option.

Personally, I'd encrypt the e-mails using GnuPG.  www.gnupg.org

Steven
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-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet


Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000 and XP clients


Hello All.

I work for a school district in Michigan.  We want to send reports to the
State that contain information about our students.  The information
contained in the email attachments must remain confidential and private.
Therefore, I need to provide a secure way of sending reports/attachments via
email over the Internet.

Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated.  

SSL only provides secure logonsright???

Thanks for any help.

Samantha

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RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

2003-07-17 Thread Chinnery, Paul
Or, if it's always sent as an attachment, PKzip v6.0 is pretty good and a lot easier 
than setting up email encryption.  Of course, there is the hassle of zipping the file, 
exchanging the password with the recipient and knowing that only the attachment is 
encrypted.

Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Mem Med Ctr


-Original Message-
From: Johansson Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 3:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet



Ok, maybe I've had a few too many beers but why in the world is everybody
suggesting TLS. It's a bother to set up and you have to do it with every
mail server you want to have secure communications with. Great, the
communications are secure but how about the actual e-mail? Correct me if I'm
wrong but the easiest way in this instance would be to just encrypt the
e-mail. Windows does provide CA and you can always get another certificate
from a known source. Another way to go is to use pgp or some offshoot of
that. I don't know but sometimes we (designers/administrators) get a little
over excited using technology we don't really have to use.
Well, just my 5 cents.

-Patrick

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17. heinäkuuta 2003 19:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

If the sending and receiving mail servers, as well as any in-between support
it, TLS is an option.

Personally, I'd encrypt the e-mails using GnuPG.  www.gnupg.org

Steven
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The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet


Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000 and XP clients


Hello All.

I work for a school district in Michigan.  We want to send reports to the
State that contain information about our students.  The information
contained in the email attachments must remain confidential and private.
Therefore, I need to provide a secure way of sending reports/attachments via
email over the Internet.

Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated.  

SSL only provides secure logonsright???

Thanks for any help.

Samantha

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RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

2003-07-17 Thread Dickenson, Steven
I didn't suggest it, I said it was an option.  I suggested using GPG to
encrypt it.

It is a good point, though.  TLS is a PITA to setup, and doesn't actually
secure the e-mail once it arrives.  GPG is much easier to use, and more
secure, in that the message can only be seen by the intended recipient
(provided your secret key is safe).

Steven
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-Original Message-
From: Johansson Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 3:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet



Ok, maybe I've had a few too many beers but why in the world is everybody
suggesting TLS. It's a bother to set up and you have to do it with every
mail server you want to have secure communications with. Great, the
communications are secure but how about the actual e-mail? Correct me if I'm
wrong but the easiest way in this instance would be to just encrypt the
e-mail. Windows does provide CA and you can always get another certificate
from a known source. Another way to go is to use pgp or some offshoot of
that. I don't know but sometimes we (designers/administrators) get a little
over excited using technology we don't really have to use.
Well, just my 5 cents.

-Patrick

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17. heinäkuuta 2003 19:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

If the sending and receiving mail servers, as well as any in-between support
it, TLS is an option.

Personally, I'd encrypt the e-mails using GnuPG.  www.gnupg.org

Steven
---
Steven Dickenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet


Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000 and XP clients


Hello All.

I work for a school district in Michigan.  We want to send reports to the
State that contain information about our students.  The information
contained in the email attachments must remain confidential and private.
Therefore, I need to provide a secure way of sending reports/attachments via
email over the Internet.

Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated.  

SSL only provides secure logonsright???

Thanks for any help.

Samantha

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RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

2003-07-17 Thread Johansson Patrick

Yeps, you are right, you did suggest gnp, I just read the thread and thought
WHAT, WHY?!? and responded to the last message, it wasn't meant to be a
response to your message but to the thread. :)
There are numerous ways to do this but TLS would not be my first choice.

-Patrick

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17. heinäkuuta 2003 22:29
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

I didn't suggest it, I said it was an option.  I suggested using GPG to
encrypt it.

It is a good point, though.  TLS is a PITA to setup, and doesn't actually
secure the e-mail once it arrives.  GPG is much easier to use, and more
secure, in that the message can only be seen by the intended recipient
(provided your secret key is safe).

Steven
---
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The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Johansson Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 3:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet



Ok, maybe I've had a few too many beers but why in the world is everybody
suggesting TLS. It's a bother to set up and you have to do it with every
mail server you want to have secure communications with. Great, the
communications are secure but how about the actual e-mail? Correct me if I'm
wrong but the easiest way in this instance would be to just encrypt the
e-mail. Windows does provide CA and you can always get another certificate
from a known source. Another way to go is to use pgp or some offshoot of
that. I don't know but sometimes we (designers/administrators) get a little
over excited using technology we don't really have to use.
Well, just my 5 cents.

-Patrick

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17. heinäkuuta 2003 19:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

If the sending and receiving mail servers, as well as any in-between support
it, TLS is an option.

Personally, I'd encrypt the e-mails using GnuPG.  www.gnupg.org

Steven
---
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Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet


Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000 and XP clients


Hello All.

I work for a school district in Michigan.  We want to send reports to the
State that contain information about our students.  The information
contained in the email attachments must remain confidential and private.
Therefore, I need to provide a secure way of sending reports/attachments via
email over the Internet.

Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated.  

SSL only provides secure logonsright???

Thanks for any help.

Samantha

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Details Templates Exchange 2000

2003-07-17 Thread Bernard Chouinard
In system manager under Recipients, Details Templates, English, User,
Template, Add, Edit how do I add an attribute in the Field pick list.

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RE: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself

2003-07-17 Thread Roger Seielstad
That's one of the ways that spammers are getting around content filters -
using HTML formatted docs with embedded images of words which are commonly
blocked.

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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Kuhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:47 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself
> 
> 
> James, appreciate you trying to think of a solution. It could 
> be anyone emailing to work from home in our organization from 
> personal email address. Guess I will have to try for a 
> subject block, so far these emails have been about home loans.
> 
> The spammers are sure getting clever. The message in the body 
> is graphic and then there is a whole bunch of nonsense characters.
> 
> Bill
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:26 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself
> 
> 
> Yes...Exchange version?  I'll assume 5.5, since that's the 
> only one I can
> address.
> 
> With Ex5.5, in the properties of your IMS, Connections tab, Message
> filtering... button, add your domain name in there.  You would add
> @luminet.net.
> 
> If you are connected via VPN/dial-up, then you are connected 
> internally to
> the Exchange server, which means any e-mail you send will be 
> sent via MAPI
> internally or OUT through the IMS...it won't be coming in 
> through the IMS.
> And if you aren't connected via VPN/Dial-up, then I would 
> assume you would
> be sending from a personal e-mail address, in which case 
> adding your company
> domain name isn't going to block that either.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Kuhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:06 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself
> 
> 
> Is there any possible way to block the spam emails that show 
> you in the
> from?  That is block and still be able to send from home 
> account to work
> account.
> 
> Bill Kuhl
> 
> 
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RE: misconfigured sender

2003-07-17 Thread Roger Seielstad
Then you've got something strange going on with your IMS.

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Sr. Systems Administrator
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> -Original Message-
> From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:10 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> I should say, is able to receive mail form all other domains but ours.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Friese, Casey 
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:09 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> That makes perfect sense James...thanks for the info
> 
> Kpafilms however does receive mail from all other domains but our's
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> Let's go back to the MX record:
> 
> kpafilms.comMX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.kpafilms.com
> (This server is fine)
> 
> kpafilms.comMX preference = 5, mail exchanger = mi.kpafilms.com
> (server is not down...it is just refusing connections on port 25, so
> it's not going to roll over to the next server).
> 
> This is why nothing addressed to @kpafilms.com is going thru 
> but e-mail
> addressed to @mail.kpafilms.com is.
> 
> Internal name vs. external name isn't going to matter.  That's all
> internal to their DNS stuff.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> more info I gleaned from their IT guy:
> 
> Mi.kpafilms.com is the MX record for the server with an internal dns
> name of KPAMIS01.kpafilms.com Mail.kpafilms.com is the MX 
> record for the
> server with an internal dns name of EXCBD01.kpafilms.com
> 
> Because the MX recs and the actual machine names don't match, is that
> possibly stopping my messages from getting to them?  When I 
> look at the
> headers of messages they send me, the internal dns name of 
> their sending
> server is being sent as: Received: from exbdc01.kpafilms.com
> ([12.155.200.200]).  The 12.155.200.200 IP is actually the IP of
> mail.kpafilms.com, to the internet, exbdc01.kpafilms.com 
> doesn't exist.
> I'm pulling at things here, I know this probably shouldn't have a
> bearing on whether or not I can send mail to them because I 
> can send to
> them from any other account.
> 
> Also, if mi.kpafilms.com is down, shouldn't mail.kpafilms.com 
> take over
> it's load?  I'm puzzled that since I can send mail from outlook to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], why when I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED], is
> the mail not sent to the second MX record since the first one is down?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:25 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> Well, let me take a stab at this...
> 
> Because of this:
> kpafilms.comMX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.kpafilms.com
> kpafilms.comMX preference = 5, mail exchanger = mi.kpafilms.com
> 
> Due to your MX record, all mail addressed to kpafilms.com is going to
> MI.kpafilms.com, which is not allowing connections on port 
> 25.  However,
> when you send directly to mail.kpafilms.com, it allows the connection.
> -Original Message-
> From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:51 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> OK, why would I be able to send to the mx record of the domain and not
> the domain itself?
> 
> Example:
> 
> Sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] sits in my queue and wont deliver
> 
> But
> 
> If I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it get's delivered fine
> 
> Mail.kpafilms.com is the MX record
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:12 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> Can we get the full headers for that NDR?
> 
> Steven
> ---
> Steven Dickenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Network Administrator
> The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:07 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> Sorry Roger if I butchered the NDR...here's exactly what it says (very
> unimformative)
> I guess it would be more approiate to call it a Dilvery 
> delayed report,
> we never receive and actual NDR and the recipient never receives the
> message.
> 
> This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.
> 
> THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.
> 
> YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.
> 
> Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed.
> 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> -Original Messa

RE: misconfigured sender

2003-07-17 Thread Friese, Casey
I was thinking that as well, just not sure where to look and we can
receive and send mail to everyone so if it's something strange with my
IMS then it's my IMS having a grudge against kpafilms.com

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Then you've got something strange going on with your IMS.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:10 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> I should say, is able to receive mail form all other domains but ours.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Friese, Casey
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:09 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> That makes perfect sense James...thanks for the info
> 
> Kpafilms however does receive mail from all other domains but our's
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> Let's go back to the MX record:
> 
> kpafilms.comMX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.kpafilms.com
> (This server is fine)
> 
> kpafilms.comMX preference = 5, mail exchanger = mi.kpafilms.com
> (server is not down...it is just refusing connections on port 25, so 
> it's not going to roll over to the next server).
> 
> This is why nothing addressed to @kpafilms.com is going thru
> but e-mail
> addressed to @mail.kpafilms.com is.
> 
> Internal name vs. external name isn't going to matter.  That's all 
> internal to their DNS stuff.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> more info I gleaned from their IT guy:
> 
> Mi.kpafilms.com is the MX record for the server with an internal dns 
> name of KPAMIS01.kpafilms.com Mail.kpafilms.com is the MX record for 
> the server with an internal dns name of EXCBD01.kpafilms.com
> 
> Because the MX recs and the actual machine names don't match, is that 
> possibly stopping my messages from getting to them?  When I look at 
> the headers of messages they send me, the internal dns name of
> their sending
> server is being sent as: Received: from exbdc01.kpafilms.com
> ([12.155.200.200]).  The 12.155.200.200 IP is actually the IP of
> mail.kpafilms.com, to the internet, exbdc01.kpafilms.com 
> doesn't exist.
> I'm pulling at things here, I know this probably shouldn't have a
> bearing on whether or not I can send mail to them because I 
> can send to
> them from any other account.
> 
> Also, if mi.kpafilms.com is down, shouldn't mail.kpafilms.com
> take over
> it's load?  I'm puzzled that since I can send mail from outlook to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], why when I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED], is
> the mail not sent to the second MX record since the first one is down?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:25 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> Well, let me take a stab at this...
> 
> Because of this:
> kpafilms.comMX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.kpafilms.com
> kpafilms.comMX preference = 5, mail exchanger = mi.kpafilms.com
> 
> Due to your MX record, all mail addressed to kpafilms.com is going to 
> MI.kpafilms.com, which is not allowing connections on port 25.  
> However, when you send directly to mail.kpafilms.com, it allows the 
> connection. -Original Message-
> From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:51 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> OK, why would I be able to send to the mx record of the domain and not

> the domain itself?
> 
> Example:
> 
> Sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] sits in my queue and wont deliver
> 
> But
> 
> If I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it get's delivered fine
> 
> Mail.kpafilms.com is the MX record
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:12 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> Can we get the full headers for that NDR?
> 
> Steven
> ---
> Steven Dickenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Network Administrator
> The Key School, Annapolis Maryland
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:07 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> Sorry Roger if I butchered the NDR...here's exactly what it says (very
> unimformative)
> I guess it would be more approiate to call it a Dilvery
> de

RE: Details Templates Exchange 2000

2003-07-17 Thread David Sengupta
I don't believe you can.

David Sengupta


-Original Message-
From: Bernard Chouinard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Details Templates Exchange 2000


In system manager under Recipients, Details Templates, English, User,
Template, Add, Edit how do I add an attribute in the Field pick list.

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RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

2003-07-17 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Ok I suggested it.

Because from what I read, they want to always send mail to the same destination in a 
secure way ("We want to send reports to the
State that contain information about our students")

In order to use PKI encryption, they would have to ask the recipient to obtain a 
certificate first, then get the recipient's public key from a digitally signed 
message, then always remember to encrypt individual messages.

With TLS, you set it up once and then start sending e-mail - the server does the job 
of encrypting the transmission every time.


If I had to send encrypted mail to many different destinations, I would sure go with 
PKI or maybe PGP. But when you are targeting the same place all the time, why not TLS?


-Original Message-
From: Johansson Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 3:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet


Ok, maybe I've had a few too many beers but why in the world is everybody
suggesting TLS. It's a bother to set up and you have to do it with every
mail server you want to have secure communications with. Great, the
communications are secure but how about the actual e-mail? Correct me if I'm
wrong but the easiest way in this instance would be to just encrypt the
e-mail. Windows does provide CA and you can always get another certificate
from a known source. Another way to go is to use pgp or some offshoot of
that. I don't know but sometimes we (designers/administrators) get a little
over excited using technology we don't really have to use.
Well, just my 5 cents.

-Patrick

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 17. heinäkuuta 2003 19:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet

If the sending and receiving mail servers, as well as any in-between support
it, TLS is an option.

Personally, I'd encrypt the e-mails using GnuPG.  www.gnupg.org

Steven
---
Steven Dickenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending Secure Mail over the Internet


Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000 and XP clients


Hello All.

I work for a school district in Michigan.  We want to send reports to the
State that contain information about our students.  The information
contained in the email attachments must remain confidential and private.
Therefore, I need to provide a secure way of sending reports/attachments via
email over the Internet.

Any ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated.  

SSL only provides secure logonsright???

Thanks for any help.

Samantha

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Back up Exchange WITHOUT backing up voice mail from Cisco Unified Messaging

2003-07-17 Thread Wendel, Jesse
I'm trying to figure out how to back up Exchange Servers WITHOUT backing up voice 
mails placed into Exchange by Cisco's Unified Messaging (UM).

I had thought of routing messaging from the UM to a separate store - creating a 
secondary mailbox for each user - say, John User (juser) and John User - Voice 
(juser-v) - and grant permissions to juser to access juser-v.  Unfortunately, UM is 
junk software and doesn't support secondary authentication.  It requires one to be 
logged in with the juser-v account.

And if I log everyone in as juser-v and let their secondary be juser, then every time 
they send mail, it isn't in the proper sent items mail box, and it isn't coming from 
the appropriate address.  And obviously people aren't going to use the FROM box and 
manually move items from the one Sent Items folder to the other.

I'm now reduced to speculating about writing code using the event sink, based on the 
class used by UM, to set where mail goes, and who it is from, but grrr, what a kludge.

So I don't know what to do.

Any ideas?

Jesse Wendel
Sr. Technical Systems Analyst
Primary Messaging/DNS Administrator
www.pse.com



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RE: Back up Exchange WITHOUT backing up voice mail from Cisco Unified Messaging

2003-07-17 Thread Chris Scharff
Implement something like http://www.attachstor.com/ perhaps...

-Original Message-
From: Wendel, Jesse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:25 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Back up Exchange WITHOUT backing up voice mail from Cisco
Unified Messaging
Subject: Back up Exchange WITHOUT backing up voice mail from Cisco
Unified Messaging


I'm trying to figure out how to back up Exchange Servers WITHOUT backing
up voice mails placed into Exchange by Cisco's Unified Messaging (UM).

I had thought of routing messaging from the UM to a separate store -
creating a secondary mailbox for each user - say, John User (juser) and
John User - Voice (juser-v) - and grant permissions to juser to access
juser-v.  Unfortunately, UM is junk software and doesn't support
secondary authentication.  It requires one to be logged in with the
juser-v account.

And if I log everyone in as juser-v and let their secondary be juser,
then every time they send mail, it isn't in the proper sent items mail
box, and it isn't coming from the appropriate address.  And obviously
people aren't going to use the FROM box and manually move items from the
one Sent Items folder to the other.

I'm now reduced to speculating about writing code using the event sink,
based on the class used by UM, to set where mail goes, and who it is
from, but grrr, what a kludge.

So I don't know what to do.

Any ideas?

Jesse Wendel
Sr. Technical Systems Analyst
Primary Messaging/DNS Administrator
www.pse.com



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RE: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself

2003-07-17 Thread PF: Exchange

Now wouldn't it be nice to have an addin for Outlook that replaced all
external content in a HTML message with blank graphics?

Sometimes it's nice to be able to see the HTML formatted correctly, but
not send back a "flag" saying your email address is valid.

Maybe and Exchange Event sink to do this?

-Kevin

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RE: Users managing Distribution List membership

2003-07-17 Thread Phil Thomas
Hi All,

FYI: Didn't get any replies so I rang PSS to see if it's going to be resolved. 
Apparently not "this is an informational only field" strange as it appeared to 
work in mixed mode...but then again maybe that was using Ex 5.5.

Cheers,
Phil

> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Thomas 
> Sent: Monday, 14 July 2003 8:41 AM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  Users managing Distribution List membership
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Since migrating to Exchange Server 2000 SP3 Native mode any newly created mail 
> enabled groups can't be managed by an Owner (Managed by). Q281489 has a "work 
> around" but this is a little tedious as a long term solution and was hoping for a 
> better solution if anyone has one or if this might be fixed in the next SP.
> 
> Thanks in advanced,
> Cheers,
> Phil
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RE: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself

2003-07-17 Thread Jason Kane
Or you could upgrade to outlook 11 which does that out of the box by
blocking external content

My $0.02 :-)

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Now wouldn't it be nice to have an addin for Outlook that replaced all
external content in a HTML message with blank graphics?

Sometimes it's nice to be able to see the HTML formatted correctly, but
not send back a "flag" saying your email address is valid.

Maybe and Exchange Event sink to do this?

-Kevin

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Exch2003 & Antivirus

2003-07-17 Thread David Hekimian
What antivirus solutions are available either for purchase or download or in
beta?

I looked at Trend, Sybari and Symantec, but didn't find any product
references to Exchange 2003.

I did see on Symantec site the url for the Beta for Symantec Mail Security
for Microsoft Exchange. Anyone tried this yet?
http://enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/products/products.cfm?productid=66
(At the very bottom of the page)


Anyone else gone through this process yet?

- David

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RE: Exch2003 & Antivirus

2003-07-17 Thread Finch Brett
 Latest build for Ex2000 from Symantec will install on 2K3 (though if you
enable content filter it faults and restarts a lot). For now though at least
it is something. Previous versions didn't even install. Although they won't
support it, obviously they have an "unofficial" change of heart.

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From: David Hekimian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 19:01
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Subject: Exch2003 & Antivirus


What antivirus solutions are available either for purchase or download or in
beta?

I looked at Trend, Sybari and Symantec, but didn't find any product
references to Exchange 2003.

I did see on Symantec site the url for the Beta for Symantec Mail Security
for Microsoft Exchange. Anyone tried this yet?
http://enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/products/products.cfm?productid=66
(At the very bottom of the page)


Anyone else gone through this process yet?

- David

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RE: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself

2003-07-17 Thread Diane Poremsky
There are a few options for users stuck on earlier versions of Outlook: 
WYB (www.grinningshark.com) has an addin that strips html 
outlook 2002 has a readasplain key
Chilton preview doesn't render html. 

I recommend Chilton - it's donationware and doesn't screw up the html for
the messages you want as html. 


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Now wouldn't it be nice to have an addin for Outlook that replaced all
external content in a HTML message with blank graphics?

Sometimes it's nice to be able to see the HTML formatted correctly, but
not send back a "flag" saying your email address is valid.

Maybe and Exchange Event sink to do this?




Reviewing GFI Mail Essentials v8


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New mail alert

2003-07-17 Thread Krishna
Hi all

can anyone tell me how i can send a sms alert to a user's phone when there
is a new mail in his mail box on exhange 2000 server.

Thanks,
Maruthi

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Re: New mail alert

2003-07-17 Thread David Hekimian
Does the users have a e-mail address for their phone?

I have a nextel phone that I can send a message to using
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and all is good.

Use the rules wizard in outlook to create a server side rule.

Look here for some examples: http://www.slipstick.com/rules/index.htm

- David


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> Hi all
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> can anyone tell me how i can send a sms alert to a user's phone when there
> is a new mail in his mail box on exhange 2000 server.
>
> Thanks,
> Maruthi
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RE: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself

2003-07-17 Thread Ed Crowley
I have it all sent to my mailbox. 

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."

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Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:57 AM
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Subject: RE: Blocking the Emails that come from yourself

Since we're on the subject, what have people been doing to counteract the
p*rn messages their receiving that have images embedded in them?
Just set up a block on the address or anyone have a more inventive solution?

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Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:47 AM
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James, appreciate you trying to think of a solution. It could be anyone
emailing to work from home in our organization from personal email address.
Guess I will have to try for a subject block, so far these emails have been
about home loans.

The spammers are sure getting clever. The message in the body is graphic and
then there is a whole bunch of nonsense characters.

Bill

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Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:26 AM
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Yes...Exchange version?  I'll assume 5.5, since that's the only one I can
address.

With Ex5.5, in the properties of your IMS, Connections tab, Message
filtering... button, add your domain name in there.  You would add
@luminet.net.

If you are connected via VPN/dial-up, then you are connected internally to
the Exchange server, which means any e-mail you send will be sent via MAPI
internally or OUT through the IMS...it won't be coming in through the IMS.
And if you aren't connected via VPN/Dial-up, then I would assume you would
be sending from a personal e-mail address, in which case adding your company
domain name isn't going to block that either.

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Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:06 AM
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Is there any possible way to block the spam emails that show you in the
from?  That is block and still be able to send from home account to work
account.

Bill Kuhl


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