RE: SMTP queues WAY backed up
I would FIRST just try SMTPreinstall, without reinstalling Exchange itself. Use the appropriate smtpreinstall.exe file from your Exchange Service pack CD, see if that fixes it. -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SMTP queues WAY backed up Do we need to reinstall e2k now then e2k sp3? Kinda sketchy.. -Original Message- From: Bob Jiantonio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SMTP queues WAY backed up Also, running smtpreinstall.exe as appropriate for your service pack , fixes this issue. (sometimes) YMMV. There isn't very good info on this utility. This is the article I followed: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=319885 I only did this part though: For Exchange 2000 SP2 or later you can use the SMTP Reinstall Tool (Smtpreinstall.exe) to restore the missing Exchange 2000 ESMTP verbs and the Exchange 2000 versions of the files. Smtpreinstall.exe can be found in the \Support\UTILS\I386 folder on the Exchange 2000 SP2 or later CD. Run Smtpreinstall.exe in the previous Step 2: Reinstall Exchange 2000 Server. To run Smtpreinstall.exe: 1. Copy Smtpreinstall.exe to the \Exchsrvr\Bin folder. 2. Run Smtpreinstall.exe from that folder. 3. Restart the computer when you receive the prompt. -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SMTP queues WAY backed up Well, uninstalled symantec avf for exchange, followed Tony's steps as well, now we got airbiscuits. No inbound or outbound. I am having the guy reinstall e2k sp3 again and see what happens.. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SMTP queues WAY backed up However, this can be caused by other things, such as a virus scanner. Sybari Antigen, in particular, does this with certain old versions. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP One man's Spam is another man's UCE. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: SMTP queues WAY backed up From an earlier post today that was resolved via a PSS call Hope this helps someone in the future. Symptom: Message queue properties displays 'The handle is invalid' and messages are stuck in the local and outbound queue. Resolution: Remove IIS, ensure metabase.bin is removed. Reboot Re-install IIS Re-apply Windows SP Reboot Re-install Exchange Re-apply SP Reboot Cause: Suspected to be caused by a corrupt metabase.bin file but Ms is not sure. There will be a KB article published in the near future that covers this problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hutchins, Mike Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 9:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions I have googled my butt off, and I have cranked up logging. I cannot get this one. All the smtp queues go into retry almost immediatelly. Help? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
RE: Windows 2000 Backup
Why not run a full everynight and then use something like Power Controls to access the backup if needed? How often do you see yourself restoring someones mail? -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Windows 2000 Backup Sorry for the confusion I caused. I mean the W2k NTBackup that comes with Windows 2000 Advanced Server when Exchange 2000 is loaded you can see the BL or mailboxes. Seems from your message that you use the backup that comes with WIN2k server. How does it work for you. My management wants the BLBs and I want to know if anyone used the W2k NTBackup for this? Thanks -Original Message- From: Juancho Ciocon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Backup Hello Samantha: In my opinion, BLBs are not worth 2 cents! NTBackup doesn't do BLBs, as Chris said, however, you could use ExMerge to export VIP mailboxes (as someone else posted earlier). We use W2k NTBackup to disk then another scheduler to write that E2k data to tape and it works very well. Make sure you have a well-documented restore procedure to go with your backup plans and understanding all the different restore scenarios (and steps) is key as well. Good luck! -Juancho NT backup doesn't do BLBs. It wasn't engineered by Veritas to have that level of uselessness. You'll need to waste good money to get that kind of inefficiency. From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 13:20:20 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Windows 2000 Backup Hello All. I noticed that Exchange 2000 can be backed up using the Windows 2000 Backup. Anyone had any experience with this? It looks like it does BLB too! Thanks Samantha _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Looking for POP3 Spam solution
A googolplex is 10^1 Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Hummert Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 12:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Looking for POP3 Spam solution Could you please show us what a googleplex is? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Looking for POP3 Spam solution 1000 0 Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Helping others with Exchange for over a twentieth of a century. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Looking for POP3 Spam solution What's a google? From: Fyodorov, Andrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 13:25:43 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Looking for POP3 Spam solution Search on Google. I have seen products like that before. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Removing SMTP addresses in bulk
I would write a script. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP One man's Spam is another man's UCE. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Berry Schreuder Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Removing SMTP addresses in bulk When you add an SMTP address to a recipient policy it adds the addresses to all selected users. How can I remove an (or all) SMTP addresses for all users? Berry _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Entourage: glitch
Exchange 2000 SP3 on W2K SP3 Upgraded a number of Mac clients to the new Entourage. Now when doing a send/receive, we get the following annoying dialogue showing up as it gets roughly to the middle of the Public Folders. Never saw it before with plain IMAP with Entourage 10.1.3 on the same Macs. Happens on five out of six clients. Mac no. 6 has no such errors and completes the sync. ** Error Mail could not be received at this time. Explanation The server returned the following error Protocol Error: Expected SPACE not found.. Error 1026 ** Nothing in the exchange logs. Anyone else have this happening? Seems like an error in the IMAP syntax but I haven't had a lot of time to look at it yet. All the best, Andy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIMAIL virus
Was wondering how many people are getting hit with this at the moment. Thanks! This is a test of the disclaimer _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Entourage
LOL -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:37 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: New Entourage yippie ki aye From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Entourage Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:32:28 -0500 It's you're not your. And don't blame me for your inability to RTFM. This is indeed a peer support newsgroup; if you don't like my responses feel free to add me to your killfile. I couldn't care less. Indicating I don't have time to go troubleshoot free/busy issues on my machine is hardly an attempt to blow off about how important I am. I was simply pointing out the only unexpected issue I've seen with the Exchange update for Entourage. The issue you describe seems to be expected behavior based on the help files, but I guess you're too important to read those and need the rest of us to do your work for you. From: Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 15:08:13 -0500 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Entourage Well your a happy guy. Thanks for the great answer there. For a minute I thought this a group to help each other out, not blow off about how important we are. Since I am not at home and not near a Mac with Entourage installed, I cant really read the help file right now. I figured if you didn't see the same issue I would dig further, if you didn't see the same issue, I wouldn't worry about it right now. I would figure the appropriate response would be: 1. I don't have any public folders of calendar or contact type so I cant test it OR 2. Yes/No Since you were so helpful, I wont comment on my status of the free/busy server thing either since I have cooler things to play as well. =) -Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uselessthoughts.com - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:48 PM Subject: Re: New Entourage Do I see Have you read the help files yet? The client is working as I would expect it to work for me at the moment based on my reading of the help files. With the exception of the free/busy server which I haven't had time to look into.[1] [1] Since Macs aren't supported on my network, it has pretty low priority.[2] [2] Plus it's my Mac, which puts it even lower on the priority list.[3] [3] And I don't really care all that much because I'm playing with cooler Exchange tools for both the PC and Mac at the moment than Entourage, which at the moment is working 'good enough' for my needs. From: Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 14:24:45 -0500 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Entourage Do you see the same issues of Calendar or Contact type public folders looking like IMAP folders and not actual contacts or calendar entries? -Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uselessthoughts.com - Original Message - From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:05 PM Subject: Re: New Entourage It works just fine in E2K. The Entourage help files contain quite a bit of information, might try reading those for what the expected functionality is. From: Atkinson, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 17:18:53 +0100 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New Entourage Ok, can anyone confirm how it works with E2K? With 5.5 you get what looks like an IMAP connection... -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 August 2003 16:41 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Entourage Its designed for E2K or higher -Original Message- From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Entourage I got the same results you did, using Entourage with an Exchange 5.5 server. Does it maybe work better with 2000? -Peter -Original Message- From: Mike Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 5:38 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: New Entourage I myself don't like the Entourage update for Office X. I don't get anything more than I did with IMAP it seems. Any public folders that are set to be of Calendar type or Contact type don't show up correctly. Is there a list of specific benefits of the update over just using IMAP? -Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uselessthoughts.com -
DS/IS Consistency Adjuster
Hello Friends. I want to remove zombie accounts for an upgrade to Exchange 2000. I will run the DS/IS Consistency Adjuster to complete this task. In some of the articles that I have read about the DS/IS Consistency Adjuster, people have experienced a complete corruption of the IS after running this tool. Has this been the case for anyone and is there a safer way to remove zombie accounts. Should a full backup happen before running this? The articles scared me when they mentioned corruption of the Information Store. Thanks Samantha _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Client Not connecting on reboot of Exchange 5.5 server....
What if creating a new Outlook profile on the client in question? Phillip -Original Message- From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 9:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Client Not connecting on reboot of Exchange 5.5 server Hey ya all, this is really weird, Had to reinstall the imc on Monday and asked everyone to log off which this particular client says he did but after the server came up Outlook is very sluggish in starting or will not start at all, get either the retry, work offline, or cancel dialog box or the Requesting Data from the Exchange Server dialog box then it might open. Also some of the client machines have been getting the Requesting data from Microsoft Exchange window but very infrequently. Have 10 servers running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on nt40 sp6, the client is running xp and office xp with all patches loaded. The particular server that this client is on is the Public Folder server and has the IMC/CC mail connector's on it. Troubleshooting steps so far: 1. Turned off, Enable Instant Messaging on the client. 2. Unchecked the all Planner Options on the client. 3. Tried a hosts file with this server name in it. 4. Change the RPC binder order from default to tcp_ip and spx only. 4a. Ran the rpc ping utility from this workstation and set ping 50 times all successful. 5. Can ping server just by name. 5. arp -a has the correct server and mac address of the nic card 6. nbtstat -c shows the server. 7. Did a nslookup of the exchange server from this workstation and server resolved. 8. Looked in the Wins manager did notice another entire for this machine deleted it. 9. Can do a \\exchange server name from the workstation. 10. Uninstalled and reinstalled Office Xp. I'm cornfused now.and scratching my head about this... Any suggestions. Also I want to get a sniff of this workstation and know there is a new version of netmon called netmon2. I tried ftping to Microsoft's site via a link that I was given and also searching via the web with no luck do any of you have it? john _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great. Just make sure your IS is not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process Paul -Original Message- From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information Stores...does brick level also. Nick Thakkar Network Administrator American Medical Response [EMAIL PROTECTED] 209-993-6974 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Finding full mailboxes.
Yep, exmapi can obtain that data. Somewhat more detailed discussions of where the data is held is available in the archives. From: Patrick Scribner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:31:57 -0600 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Finding full mailboxes. Does anyone know of a way to query the exchange server or get some kind of report of mailboxes that are full or approaching full? Aside from going into system manager and manually viewing the mailbox sizes? Thanks, Patrick Scribner, MCSE DBA Westwood College 303-464-2381 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Windows 2000 Backup
Using NTBackup for BLBs sounds like an awesome idea, assuming one doesn't want to do them. -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, August 07, 2003 1:20 PM Posted To: swynk Conversation: Windows 2000 Backup Subject: RE: Windows 2000 Backup Sorry for the confusion I caused. I mean the W2k NTBackup that comes with Windows 2000 Advanced Server when Exchange 2000 is loaded you can see the BL or mailboxes. Seems from your message that you use the backup that comes with WIN2k server. How does it work for you. My management wants the BLBs and I want to know if anyone used the W2k NTBackup for this? Thanks -Original Message- From: Juancho Ciocon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Backup Hello Samantha: In my opinion, BLBs are not worth 2 cents! NTBackup doesn't do BLBs, as Chris said, however, you could use ExMerge to export VIP mailboxes (as someone else posted earlier). We use W2k NTBackup to disk then another scheduler to write that E2k data to tape and it works very well. Make sure you have a well-documented restore procedure to go with your backup plans and understanding all the different restore scenarios (and steps) is key as well. Good luck! -Juancho NT backup doesn't do BLBs. It wasn't engineered by Veritas to have that level of uselessness. You'll need to waste good money to get that kind of inefficiency. From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 13:20:20 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Windows 2000 Backup Hello All. I noticed that Exchange 2000 can be backed up using the Windows 2000 Backup. Anyone had any experience with this? It looks like it does BLB too! Thanks Samantha _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation
Good point. Although does that really delete the tombstoned object or not? -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:00 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation From the dumpster view you can purge items from the dumpster. I believe that is what Mr. Bendall was saying. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP One man's Spam is another man's UCE. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 5:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation You are incorrect. The Dumpster is really just a view of the items which have been marked as deleted (i.e. tombstoned) but have not reached the expiration of the Deleted Item Retention. DIR is just the amount of time which elapses between the time something has been marked as deleted and the time it is purged from the information store. Long explanation short is that you can ALWAYS recover a deleted item during the deleted item retension period. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 4:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation Yes purging from deleted item recovery will remove it from the dumpster. I doubt Exmerge would do this as it just exports from the mailbox so I would assume it does the same on the dumpster which of course has to be specifically selected. Regards, Paul -Original Message- From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2003 19:46 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation Thanks for that - following the article and purging from the necessary folders, it's then unrecoverable, correct? Would exmerge have removed it from the dumpster too and achieved the same result? Stu -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 2:08 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation Nope your wrong, you can recover items from the dumpster on Exchange even if you shift delete. Do a search for dumpsteralwayson on Microsoft website. This is a reg key that can be added to retrieve items from any folder. It is retrospective. Regards, Paul -Original Message- From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2003 19:05 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation Ex5.5 I have this set but want to be sure that if an item is 'shift-deleted' from inbox that there is no way to recover said item. The item does not appear as available to recover under 'tools'-'recover deleted items'. I have no backups whilst the item existed. Thanks Stu Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments may be legally privileged and confidential. If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and permanently delete the e-mail and any attachments immediately. You should not retain, copy or use this e-mail or any attachment for any purpose, nor disclose all or any part of the contents to any other person. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you have received this e-mail in error or wish to read our e-mail disclaimer statement and monitoring policy, please refer to http://www.drkw.com/disc/email/ or contact the sender. -- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Confidentiality Notice:
Re: E2K Forest/Domain-prep on Win2003 Domain?
IMNSHO upgrading to W2K at this point is a waste of time. If you're going to upgrade, upgrade to E2K3. It greatly simplifies the upgrade process from Exchange 5.5 and offers a number of significant enhancement which make it a much more compelling upgrade story than E2K. From: Dickenson, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 12:29:31 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: E2K Forest/Domain-prep on Win2003 Domain? Hi guys, I'm getting ready to add a Windows 2003 DC to my Win2k AD network, which will eventually be an all Win2k3 AD domain. However, I'm also planning an Exchange 2000 upgrade in a matter of weeks. My question is, will I be able to run Forestprep and Domainprep against the Win2k3 AD? Or should I do this before adding the Win2k3 AD DC? NOTE: I will not be installing Exchange 2000 on a Win2003 box (for obvious reasons). _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003
It is worthless for downloading; I checked myself after the first email after thinking about it. I'm a bit surprised your rep couldn't tell you about your licensing. Sorry for the lack of detail - it's been a long week already. After two years of layoffs our ratio of servers to admins is around 180 to 1. FWIW, I upgraded the eval version on a Win2003 cluster; went pretty well except for a version mismatch after upgrading one node that prevented failover to the other node for the upgrade. Had to upgrade the other node with the cluster active on it. In a lab this wasn't so bad, but something to keep in mind if doing this in production. Disclaimer: Windows pro, Exchange apprentice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003 FYI: I contacted my MS rep for the URL and they gave me the eopen.microsoft.com which appears to be basically useless to download.. and While I like my MS rep he had no clue on any of this so IF anyone else could shed some light that would be appreciated thanks bill -Original Message- From: Michael L. Callahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003 If you have Open, Select or Enterprise Agreements with MS they have a site where you can download the Volume Licensing versions of their products. You can contact your MS rep to get the URL. You'll need to be added as a user to the site, so contact whoever in your company manages the agreement to have this done. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003 Ok you peeked my Q what download site. OK I admit Im a bit clueless on all the details of my volume lic... thanks bill -Original Message- From: Michael L. Callahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003 If you have a Volume Licensing agreement with Microsoft you can download it from the site as of that date. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Woodruff, Michael Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003 Exchange was made available on the 4th? I havne't seen or heard anything yet. -Original Message- From: Michael L. Callahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003 FWIW, should be soon. It was made available to Volume Licensing customers as of Aug. 4. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Waters, Jeff Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003 Not to ask a stupid question here, why not wait until Ex2K3 is released then go to it and skip Ex2K? What we are/planning on doing is to get our Win2K3 AD completely in place (we are doing a migration) and let exchange keep running on 5.5, then this fall we will build our new 2K3 (OS EX) and complete the migration. I don't see any real advantages in doing an upgrade today, just so I can do another upgrade in 5 months. You can run Ex2K3 in your lab and test the migration until the cows come home using an RC product. Just my thoughts. -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003 OK, next question: If my DC is a w2k3 server, can I add w2k servers (member servers) with exchange 2000. And then upgrade to exchange 2003 later? -Original Message- From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003 This month's TechNet included an eval version of Exchange 2003 Standard. Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003 Hey, sorry that I asked this question... didn't mean to start up a major discussion. Simple yes or no would have satisfied my needs. However, does anyone know if there is a standard edition of exchange 2003 in bata or rtm at this time? I have the enterprise edition 120 day eval copy at this time. Once I install it, then I will have to use the enterprise edition
RE: KCC
It should be run off hours, but I have run it during the day before with no bad results. I did it at lunch time, though. -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: KCC You guys are really funnyoh yah, cracking me up! Anyways, stop playing and tell me what you would do? I would like to run it during the day but I don't want to hurt anything or stop/slow down services from Exchange. Thanks. :) Samantha -Original Message- From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: KCC I think he meant Yes, it CAN be run during the day. Yes, it SHOULD be run off hours. Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: KCC Yes it can be run during the day? Or Yes it should be run off hours? Thanks for the reply. Samantha -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: KCC Yes. From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:48:43 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: KCC Can you run the KCC (Knowledge Consistency Checker) during the day or should it be run off hours? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Removing SMTP addresses in bulk
When you add an SMTP address to a recipient policy it adds the addresses to all selected users. How can I remove an (or all) SMTP addresses for all users? Berry _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Looking for POP3 Spam solution
Yeah, but they're still never showing anything good and the popcorn is overpriced. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 05:09 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Looking for POP3 Spam solution It's one followed by a 100 googles worth of zeros -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Schorr Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Looking for POP3 Spam solution Isn't that the new theaters down at the mall? -Ben- Ben M. Schorr Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 20:46 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Looking for POP3 Spam solution Could you please show us what a googleplex is? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Looking for POP3 Spam solution 1000 0 Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Helping others with Exchange for over a twentieth of a century. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Looking for POP3 Spam solution What's a google? From: Fyodorov, Andrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 13:25:43 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Looking for POP3 Spam solution Search on Google. I have seen products like that before. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Server hardware specs for E2K3 (WAS: E2K Forest/Domain-prep on Wi n2003 Domain?)
Gosh, some companies are truly humorless, aren't they... -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Server hardware specs for E2K3 (WAS: E2K Forest/Domain-prep on Wi n2003 Domain?) No SearchBastard for me The Web site you are attempting to access http://www.searchbastard.com/ is prohibited under the Spherion Internet Usage Policy and has been blocked/restricted. Do not attempt to disable, defeat or circumvent this Company security function. Violation of Spherion's Internet Usage Policy will be reported to your supervisor and may result in disciplinary action, up to and including termination. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 4:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Server hardware specs for E2K3 (WAS: E2K Forest/Domain-prep on Wi n2003 Domain?) Hmm... I'm all distracted trying to figure out this google thing. Who knew there was any other search engine on the planet beyond www.searchbastard.com? Why would anyone bother? Dual proc would help, but bumping up the RAM would probably help more. If you could only do one, I'd choose the latter. Beyond that... With users who'd fall into my 'typical category' I'd imagine you'd likely be OK (at the very least you will be no worse of with E2K3 on this config than you would be with E2K on it). To be clear this is a new box correct? Because the one downside[1] to a 5.5 to E2K3 migration is that you can't do it in place, but need to swing to new hardware. [1] I see it as a bonus personally. [2] [2] Seriously. From: Dickenson, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 15:27:09 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Server hardware specs for E2K3 (WAS: E2K Forest/Domain-prep on Wi n2003 Domain?) I guess the question about is it worth the money was more hypothetical. I've since gotten an updated price of $370, which IS worth it to me. As far as hardware goes, I'm looking for a general should be okay, or not a good idea. My PRIV is 6GB, PUB 30MB. About 450 mailboxes. On average, 50 clients connected at a time, with a maximum of 250 (that's how many PCs we have). No idea what the mail volume is. I'm ashamed to say I'm not sure how to track it. We would be running E2K3 SE with McAfee GroupShield on Win2k3 Standard Server. Hardware is P3600, 784MB of RAM, hardware RAID, 18GB RAID1 OS/Pagefile/Apps, 33GB RAID1 Data/Logs. I can go dual proc if it will help. Thoughts, ideas? Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: E2K Forest/Domain-prep on Win2003 Domain? The hardware requirements for E2K3 vs E2K are generally equivalent, whether that hardware is sufficient for you org is not really something I can say with any degree of certainty. It meets the minimum hardware requirements I believe. Whether or not it is worth $1000 for you is not really a question I can answer. It is for customers who hire me to do the work, since I performed my last E2K migration the weekend after TechEd and haven't looked back since. From: Dickenson, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 13:03:45 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: E2K Forest/Domain-prep on Win2003 Domain? I have considered that, however we have Exchange 2000 EE free as part of an upgrade advantage purchased with Exchange 5.5 EE. Upgrading to E2K3 EE would cost me upwards of $1000. Is it worth it? In addition, I will be doing the install on a P3600 with 512MB of RAM and 3 18GB RAID1 arrays. Can the hardware cope well? PS - What the he11 does IMNSHO mean? Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: E2K Forest/Domain-prep on Win2003 Domain? IMNSHO upgrading to W2K at this point is a waste of time. If you're going to upgrade, upgrade to E2K3. It greatly simplifies the upgrade process from Exchange 5.5 and offers a number of significant enhancement which make it a much more compelling upgrade story than E2K. From: Dickenson, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 12:29:31 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: E2K Forest/Domain-prep on Win2003 Domain? Hi guys, I'm getting ready to add a Windows 2003 DC to my Win2k AD network, which will eventually be an all Win2k3 AD domain. However,
Creating a group list
Hi friends, Do you know about of any software for manage List group ( free/cheaper) . No hotmail or yahoo. TIA, LB. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:Re: Server hardware specs for E2K3 (WAS: E2K Forest/Domain-prep on Wi n2003 Domain?) Hmm... I'm all distracted trying to figure out this google thing. Who knew there was any other search engine on the planet beyond www.searchbastard.com? Why would anyone bother? Dual proc would help, but bumping up the RAM would probably help more. If you could only do one, I'd choose the latter. Beyond that... With users who'd fall into my 'typical category' I'd imagine you'd likely be OK (at the very least you will be no worse of with E2K3 on this config than you would be with E2K on it). To be clear this is a new box correct? Because the one downside[1] to a 5.5 to E2K3 migration is that you can't do it in place, but need to swing to new hardware. [1] I see it as a bonus personally. [2] [2] Seriously. From: Dickenson, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 15:27:09 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Server hardware specs for E2K3 (WAS: E2K Forest/Domain-prep on Wi n2003 Domain?) I guess the question about is it worth the money was more hypothetical. I've since gotten an updated price of $370, which IS worth it to me. As far as hardware goes, I'm looking for a general should be okay, or not a good idea. My PRIV is 6GB, PUB 30MB. About 450 mailboxes. On average, 50 clients connected at a time, with a maximum of 250 (that's how many PCs we have). No idea what the mail volume is. I'm ashamed to say I'm not sure how to track it. We would be running E2K3 SE with McAfee GroupShield on Win2k3 Standard Server. Hardware is P3600, 784MB of RAM, hardware RAID, 18GB RAID1 OS/Pagefile/Apps, 33GB RAID1 Data/Logs. I can go dual proc if it will help. Thoughts, ideas? Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: E2K Forest/Domain-prep on Win2003 Domain? The hardware requirements for E2K3 vs E2K are generally equivalent, whether that hardware is sufficient for you org is not really something I can say with any degree of certainty. It meets the minimum hardware requirements I believe. Whether or not it is worth $1000 for you is not really a question I can answer. It is for customers who hire me to do the work, since I performed my last E2K migration the weekend after TechEd and haven't looked back since. From: Dickenson, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 13:03:45 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: E2K Forest/Domain-prep on Win2003 Domain? I have considered that, however we have Exchange 2000 EE free as part of an upgrade advantage purchased with Exchange 5.5 EE. Upgrading to E2K3 EE would cost me upwards of $1000. Is it worth it? In addition, I will be doing the install on a P3600 with 512MB of RAM and 3 18GB RAID1 arrays. Can the hardware cope well? PS - What the he11 does IMNSHO mean? Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: E2K Forest/Domain-prep on Win2003 Domain? IMNSHO upgrading to W2K at this point is a waste of time. If you're going to upgrade, upgrade to E2K3. It greatly simplifies the upgrade process from Exchange 5.5 and offers a number of significant enhancement which make it a much more compelling upgrade story than E2K. From: Dickenson, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 12:29:31 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: E2K Forest/Domain-prep on Win2003 Domain? Hi guys, I'm getting ready to add a Windows 2003 DC to my Win2k AD network, which will eventually be an all Win2k3 AD domain. However, I'm also planning an Exchange 2000 upgrade in a matter of weeks. My question is, will I be able to run Forestprep and Domainprep against the Win2k3 AD? Or should I do this before adding the Win2k3 AD DC? NOTE: I will not be installing Exchange 2000 on a Win2003 box (for obvious reasons). _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL
RE: Requesting Data from Exchange Server too much
I have several 5.5 servers that have this problem, too, primarily when the client is Outlook XP (same workstations did not have an access problem under Outlook 2000). The clients are on the LAN, and the 5.5 servers are NOT multi-homed or clustered. Been looking for a solution myself, but haven't found one. FWIW -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 9:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Requesting Data from Exchange Server too much Are the users offsite via VPN? Outlook is sensitive to packet fragmentation. Weird stuff occurs like the user can receive email but cannot send it. Try lowering the MTU, stepping down from the max in 10's. Also see if the vpn client or router supports udp encapsulazation. Tim. x3683 -Original Message- From: Jose Manzano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Requesting Data from Exchange Server too much Hello all, Here is my problem We have an Exchange 5.5 server that is constantly giving you the message Requesting Data from Exchange Server . This is like every 3rd or 4th message. I'm starting with the NIC's, the server has dual NIC's that are active on the network. I'm thinking one is causing some kind of issues when the server sends the data back, and the client gets confused? I don't know just going on a hunch. I wouldn't think we would need dual NIC's on this server. The NIC's are not teamed, nor is this server clustered. Any advice on troubleshooting this message would be highly appreciated!!! Thank you!! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Upgrade of FE to E2K3
They don't have to be in place upgrades correct? We can bring in a new Exchange 2003 FE server into the Admin Group and then remove the old? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:23 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Upgrade of FE to E2K3 I'd be inclined to make all FE servers E2k3 first, since the non-supported possibility always exists otherwise. Neil -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 06 August 2003 13:21 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: Upgrade of FE to E2K3 Subject: RE: Upgrade of FE to E2K3 Here is my structure... I have a FE and a few BE servers. I want to bring in a new Exchange 2003 server for our upgrade and move all of our users over to it the remove our Exchange 2000 servers. So I cant bring in a Exchange 2003 BE server and keep our Exchange 2000 FE right? I would eithor have to not make it a BE server or I would have to upgrade our current FE to Exchange 2003 first. Damn, that sucks. I don't trust in place upgrades, so how would one go about upgrading the FE? Can you have two FE servers (Exchange 2k and 2k3) in the same Administrative Group? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Upgrade of FE to E2K3 If you had an E2k3 back-end server without an E2k3 front-end server, it wouldn't be supported. That's no.3 in the list here: http://hellomate.typepad.com/exchange/2003/07/exchange_2000_2.html Neil -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 06 August 2003 13:06 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: Upgrade of FE to E2K3 Subject: Upgrade of FE to E2K3 From Q822942 -For front-end and back-end servers that are in the same administrative group, you must upgrade the front-end servers to Exchange 2003 (or install Exchange 2003 on the front-end server) before you upgrade the back-end server to Exchange 2003 (or install Exchange 2003 on the back-end server). Does this include bringing in a completely differnet and new server into the group (swing method) or do I definitly need to upgrade our FE to 2k3 before adding our first 2k3 server to the Admin Group? Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202 360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.silversands.co.uk _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: AV/Spam scanning services
consider this Ive got the trend suite + IMSS (SMTP gateway product) Now beside's Martin's list of danger (See FAQ) Ive add a bunch of other stuff. i.e. Ive set it pretty aggressively. here's what I came into this morning: , -- From: System Attendant Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:24:52 AM To: Administrator Subject:[MailServer Notification] To Administrator a virus was found and action taken. Auto forwarded by a Rule ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange took action on the message. The message details were: Sender = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recipient(s) = Brea;[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Subject = MOTHER PC CHIPS Scanning time = 08/05/2003 03:24:50 Engine/Pattern = 6.510-1002/598 Action taken on message: The message body contained JS_FORTNIGHT virus. ScanMail deleted the message body. Warning to administrator. ScanMail has detected a virus. Who: Brea;[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 08/05/2003 Time: 03:24 AM Type: scheduled scan Now Ive got to go check me IMSS to why it made it past... But if I had, had NO AV on my exchange box Id be infected!! In Fact! before I loaded the trend exchange AV, I had another companies AV...and well when I loaded the trend It found a bunch of viruses which where hang'in around If I could justify the Antigen AV for exchange..IN A heart beat... In fact Im looking to made change my AV lic and setup to try in squeeze in the Antigen.. Also Note: IF you only use a gateway AV..what happens when I user brings something in from Home...they will dispite company policy. Viruses thru web site's..you get block them all... Once it's inside you'd be screwed... I personally would not run a Exchange server without it..in fact same for any mail server... but then that's me It's going to cost you more when something slip's by..it time then the intial capital cost and yearly service/subscription cost..etc My 2 cents bill ,, I'm considering going with an outside SPAM/AV company. However, my manager feels that we don't need to put AV on our Exchange server if we do...so I am considering going just with AV/SPAM on our Exchange server and keeping everything in house. I was considering using MX Logic Defense Level 3 and using Antigen on Exchange server. I can't convince him that both would be the way to go...both meaning SPAM/AV outside and AV on Exchange. Now, I am considering just Antigen with the SPAM agent added to it. Anyone got any good points about having both SPAM/AV outside and AV on Exchange that I can bring up to my boss so he can see the added value? His points were...you mean they won't be able to do it as well as we can...then we need to not use them! Thank you, Ron Crumbaker, MCP -Original Message- From: Michael Brownell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: AV/Spam scanning services I see the outsourced AV as another layer that gives me greater defense in depth (I have Trend on every platform). Also their use of multiple and different AV scan engines gives me another (admittedly small) edge. I'll take whatever edge I can get, having been hosed by Iluv you and Funlove. One of my concerns about using this type of service is latency. How much longer does it take a message to get through? Are any of the vendors better or worse in this regard? Michael -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 6:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: AV/Spam scanning services My point is that you're spending money on an internal AV product for mail (i.e. ScanMail or Antigen) plus the second layer at the gateway - either internal or external. My caution is geared towards those who think that they ONLY need the outsourcer for AV. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: AV/Spam scanning services It's not necessarily about saving money though right? Scanning at the gateway (in-house or outsourced) can be a valid additional level of protection. A significant number of our customers use some form of gateway scanner[1] in addition to their server and desktop based AV solutions. [1] MessageLabs, MailSweeper, Trend's Instercan, et al. From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 07:10:22 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: AV/Spam scanning services There are some discussions of a few of them in the archives. Personally, I'm not a fan of outsourced anti-spam, but that's in part because we're a heavily email dependent company and so we can justify the expense of in house measures to combat those issues. As a side
IIS WWW service randomly stops few time a day
Dear sir, Current web server = IIS4.0 running on NT 4.0 member server with OS SP6a installed Application running = Exchange Outlook Web Server with Exchange SP4 installed Ever since I loaded all latest patches and hotfixes from Windows Updates, I find the WWW service randomly stop running a few times a day. It is very hard to diagnose the reason why because there are no errors found from Event Viewer. Why? Regards, BY _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
W2K3 and E2K3 and NTBackup
I'm starting to plan for my 5.5/W2K to E2K3/W2K3 migration. We currently use NTBackup to backup 5.5 on W2K, and it's great. My assumption is that W2K3's NTBackup will backup E2K3, but I don't want to assume and I'm not to the testing stage yet. It that a safe assumption? Will W2K3's NTBackup backup E2K3? -Walden Walden H Leverich III President Tech Software (516) 627-3800 x11 (208) 692-3308 eFax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.TechSoftInc.com Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: KCC
How many 5.5 servers are in your site? -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: KCC Will it take a long time? I have a 19Gb IS. Thanks again. Samantha -Original Message- From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: KCC It should be run off hours, but I have run it during the day before with no bad results. I did it at lunch time, though. -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: KCC You guys are really funnyoh yah, cracking me up! Anyways, stop playing and tell me what you would do? I would like to run it during the day but I don't want to hurt anything or stop/slow down services from Exchange. Thanks. :) Samantha -Original Message- From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: KCC I think he meant Yes, it CAN be run during the day. Yes, it SHOULD be run off hours. Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: KCC Yes it can be run during the day? Or Yes it should be run off hours? Thanks for the reply. Samantha -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: KCC Yes. From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:48:43 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: KCC Can you run the KCC (Knowledge Consistency Checker) during the day or should it be run off hours? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Entourage
I don't doubt it. That makes perfect business sense. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Entourage My personal opinion is that they did away with Outlook for the Mac because OS X, especially Jaguar (10.2.x) is the first OS with a legitimate chance of displacing Microsoft from their dominance of the desktop. It meets the requirements of having Microsoft Office (Word/Excel/etc). Therefore, the only missing app is a full blown Outlook client. Its Microsoft's only way to stop the tide without giving up their entire Mac offering. Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Entourage This is more venting than any serious question: What about MAPI? (Outlook for OfficeX-1) What about RPC over HTTP? (I know that would have to be coded from scratch) You must enable IMAP on your Exchange server? Why did they get rid of the Outlook product? Why make an organization with Macs go through so many hoops? It's not like they have to code from scratch. It makes no sense. The whole idea is to make the products across both platforms the same or mostly the same. They didn't take Word or Excel, retool it, take out some important features and call it something else, did they? Keerist!! -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: New Entourage Depends on how one defines Exchange aware. If by Exchange aware, you mean 'it's Outlook' then no. If understanding free/busy and and automatic configuration of address book and other account settings to support Exchange qualifies, then maybe. From: Erik Sojka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:29:57 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New Entourage I haven't looked at it yet, but it wouldn't be Exchange-aware if it was, right? When we looked at this for our lone Mac user ~18 months ago we had to settle for the previous version of Outlook and the user had to switch between OSX for Office and OS9 for Outlook since we didn't want to open up IMAP or POP3 for him. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
