RE: New E2K Roll-up fix working OK

2003-09-04 Thread Hutchins, Mike 
Ok, I am a little sleepy, my bad. :-/ 

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Beckham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New E2K Roll-up fix working OK

Back to the email sent on Tuesday.

September 2003 Exchange 2000 Server Post-Service Pack 3 Rollup
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;824282

Jeff

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Subject: RE: New E2K Roll-up fix working OK

Wasn't it released in March? 

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Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: New E2K Roll-up fix working OK


Hello,

FWIW, the newly released E2K post-SP3 Roll-up fix has been working fine
on a "production techie" server for over a day now.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;813840

E2K: Native, Scanmail 6.1
OS: w2K, SP3 + all critical fixes , native

OUTLOOK/MAPI, OWA, POP, IMAP used regularly on this server.

YMMV,
Brent

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RE: New E2K Roll-up fix working OK

2003-09-04 Thread Jeff Beckham 
Back to the email sent on Tuesday.

September 2003 Exchange 2000 Server Post-Service Pack 3 Rollup
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;824282

Jeff

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Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
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Subject: RE: New E2K Roll-up fix working OK

Wasn't it released in March? 

-Original Message-
From: MS Exchange List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: New E2K Roll-up fix working OK


Hello,

FWIW, the newly released E2K post-SP3 Roll-up fix has been working fine
on a "production techie" server for over a day now.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;813840

E2K: Native, Scanmail 6.1
OS: w2K, SP3 + all critical fixes , native

OUTLOOK/MAPI, OWA, POP, IMAP used regularly on this server.

YMMV,
Brent

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Re: Open relay issues

2003-09-04 Thread Chris Scharff 
Those aren't relay failures, there's nothing to fix. They are (exclusively I
think) tests for other mail servers which at one point used to incorrectly
relay mail formatted like that. Exchange does not. My server 'fails' the
same tests. If you crank up logging on the SMTP conversation what addresses
is the connecting IP address sending to?

> From: "Pat Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 23:25:10 -0400
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Open relay issues
> 
> Okay, I'm still looking through the archives and stuff, but it's late, so I'll
> post this before I call it a night.
> 
> Client has a server that suddenly shuts down.
> 
> I reboot and troubleshoot, to find literally TENS OF THOUSANDS of items in the
> badmail folder. All dated within the last two or three days. The server had
> shut down because the drive ran out of space.
> 
> So I clear that up and start nosing around..
> 
> I check for open relay (telnet), and can't find any problem. I start to think
> maybe this is a SoBig.F issue, until I read some of the NDRs.
> 
> Within fifteen minutes, badmail starts to accumulate again. I look further,
> and see a connection in the OPEN SESSIONS section of System Manager. I kill
> the connection after jotting down some details. Queues are just jammed full of
> crap - Viagra ads, etc.
> I clear this out again, along with badmail, and start watching. Sure enough, a
> short time later, someone from the same IP subnet connects and it starts all
> over.
> I look through a ton of articles on open relay, and everything checks out.
> Then, I run this test: http://tools.appriver.com/openrelay.php
>   which basically tries to relay
> using various combinations of addressing formats.
> Test #14 fails
> Test #16 fails
> Test #28 fails
> #14 uses a rcpt to format of
> RCPT TO: <"[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
> Notice the quotes.
> #16 uses
> RCPT TO: <"relaytest%appriver.com">
> Notice the quotes and the %
> #28 uses
> RCPT TO: 
> notice the format there.
> 
> I manually tried each on via telnet against the server. Sure enough, the
> server doesn't complain. But every one bounces back with an NDR complaining
> about the recipient address. So my belief is that they're attempting one (or
> more) of these methods, and all of them are bouncing, causing the badmail
> problem.
> 
> My question is, how do I close this hole? Server is Win2k SBS SP4, E2k SP3.
> Connection is firewalled T1.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
> 


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RE: New E2K Roll-up fix working OK

2003-09-04 Thread Hutchins, Mike 
Wasn't it released in March? 

-Original Message-
From: MS Exchange List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: New E2K Roll-up fix working OK


Hello,

FWIW, the newly released E2K post-SP3 Roll-up fix has been working fine
on a "production techie" server for over a day now.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;813840

E2K: Native, Scanmail 6.1
OS: w2K, SP3 + all critical fixes , native

OUTLOOK/MAPI, OWA, POP, IMAP used regularly on this server.

YMMV,
Brent

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Open relay issues

2003-09-04 Thread Pat Richard 
Okay, I'm still looking through the archives and stuff, but it's late, so I'll post 
this before I call it a night.
 
Client has a server that suddenly shuts down.
 
I reboot and troubleshoot, to find literally TENS OF THOUSANDS of items in the badmail 
folder. All dated within the last two or three days. The server had shut down because 
the drive ran out of space.
 
So I clear that up and start nosing around..
 
I check for open relay (telnet), and can't find any problem. I start to think maybe 
this is a SoBig.F issue, until I read some of the NDRs.
 
Within fifteen minutes, badmail starts to accumulate again. I look further, and see a 
connection in the OPEN SESSIONS section of System Manager. I kill the connection after 
jotting down some details. Queues are just jammed full of crap - Viagra ads, etc.
I clear this out again, along with badmail, and start watching. Sure enough, a short 
time later, someone from the same IP subnet connects and it starts all over.
I look through a ton of articles on open relay, and everything checks out. Then, I run 
this test: http://tools.appriver.com/openrelay.php 
  which basically tries to relay using 
various combinations of addressing formats.
Test #14 fails
Test #16 fails
Test #28 fails
#14 uses a rcpt to format of 
RCPT TO: <"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"> 
Notice the quotes.
#16 uses
RCPT TO: <"relaytest%appriver.com"> 
Notice the quotes and the %
#28 uses
RCPT TO:  
notice the format there.
 
I manually tried each on via telnet against the server. Sure enough, the server 
doesn't complain. But every one bounces back with an NDR complaining about the 
recipient address. So my belief is that they're attempting one (or more) of these 
methods, and all of them are bouncing, causing the badmail problem.
 
My question is, how do I close this hole? Server is Win2k SBS SP4, E2k SP3. Connection 
is firewalled T1.
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Andy David 
Recreating the mailbox is the last resort for me. 
Please tell us what AV software you are using. We gots to know.



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Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


Problem Solved:

Deleted the mailbox, and then re-created it...
Sometimes the simple way is the last one to come to mind...


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office



-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


Sorry, management thinks meetings are necessary for some reason...

I've seen all of those, and even rolled up SPs, but that did not fix it, I
will try the exmerge thing., if that does not work, time to do it the hard
way.


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office



-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


Any one of these get you going in the right direction?

(I am betting it's this first one)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;817886
817886 - Error Message: Some Items Could Not Be Deleted. They Were Either
Moved or Already Deleted, or Access Was Denied.

I get this error all the time, when trying to select and delete more than
3,500-4,000 messages at a time...don't care what MS says, shift+delete
doesn't work either.  The only thing that works is to reselect a smaller
number of items.  This error doesn't just affect OL2003 either...I've gotten
it and seen users get it since OL97.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;195863
195863 - OL2000: (CW) ErrMsg: The Item Could Not Be Deleted

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;326396
326396 - XADM: Cannot Delete or Move Messages in Messaging Client

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;325445
325445 - XADM: You Cannot Soft Delete or Move Messages If the Mailbox Is
Over Its Quota Limit and You Use a Store Event Sink

-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Problem deleting e-mails


When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try to
delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.  It
was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?

Exchange 2K sp3
Windows 2K sp4 


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office



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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Adam Berns 
Problem Solved:

Deleted the mailbox, and then re-created it...
Sometimes the simple way is the last one to come to mind...


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office



-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


Sorry, management thinks meetings are necessary for some reason...

I've seen all of those, and even rolled up SPs, but that did not fix it, I
will try the exmerge thing., if that does not work, time to do it the hard
way.


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office



-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


Any one of these get you going in the right direction?

(I am betting it's this first one)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;817886
817886 - Error Message: Some Items Could Not Be Deleted. They Were Either
Moved or Already Deleted, or Access Was Denied.

I get this error all the time, when trying to select and delete more than
3,500-4,000 messages at a time...don't care what MS says, shift+delete
doesn't work either.  The only thing that works is to reselect a smaller
number of items.  This error doesn't just affect OL2003 either...I've gotten
it and seen users get it since OL97.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;195863
195863 - OL2000: (CW) ErrMsg: The Item Could Not Be Deleted

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;326396
326396 - XADM: Cannot Delete or Move Messages in Messaging Client

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;325445
325445 - XADM: You Cannot Soft Delete or Move Messages If the Mailbox Is
Over Its Quota Limit and You Use a Store Event Sink

-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Problem deleting e-mails


When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try to
delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.  It
was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?

Exchange 2K sp3
Windows 2K sp4 


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office



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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Adam Berns 
Sorry, management thinks meetings are necessary for some reason...

I've seen all of those, and even rolled up SPs, but that did not fix it, I
will try the exmerge thing., if that does not work, time to do it the hard
way.


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office



-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


Any one of these get you going in the right direction?

(I am betting it's this first one)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;817886
817886 - Error Message: Some Items Could Not Be Deleted. They Were Either
Moved or Already Deleted, or Access Was Denied.

I get this error all the time, when trying to select and delete more than
3,500-4,000 messages at a time...don't care what MS says, shift+delete
doesn't work either.  The only thing that works is to reselect a smaller
number of items.  This error doesn't just affect OL2003 either...I've gotten
it and seen users get it since OL97.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;195863
195863 - OL2000: (CW) ErrMsg: The Item Could Not Be Deleted

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;326396
326396 - XADM: Cannot Delete or Move Messages in Messaging Client

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;325445
325445 - XADM: You Cannot Soft Delete or Move Messages If the Mailbox Is
Over Its Quota Limit and You Use a Store Event Sink

-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Problem deleting e-mails


When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try to
delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.  It
was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?

Exchange 2K sp3
Windows 2K sp4 


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office



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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Durkee, Peter 
I vote that it's Groupshield, and suggest he try exmerging the message out before 
heading off to the smtp banner changing seminar at MEC.

-Peter


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From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 14:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


Did we ever get an answer on what AV product it was? 

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails

Any one of these get you going in the right direction?

(I am betting it's this first one)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;817886
817886 - Error Message: Some Items Could Not Be Deleted. They Were Either
Moved or Already Deleted, or Access Was Denied.

I get this error all the time, when trying to select and delete more than
3,500-4,000 messages at a time...don't care what MS says, shift+delete
doesn't work either.  The only thing that works is to reselect a smaller
number of items.  This error doesn't just affect OL2003 either...I've gotten
it and seen users get it since OL97.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;195863
195863 - OL2000: (CW) ErrMsg: The Item Could Not Be Deleted

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;326396
326396 - XADM: Cannot Delete or Move Messages in Messaging Client

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;325445
325445 - XADM: You Cannot Soft Delete or Move Messages If the Mailbox Is
Over Its Quota Limit and You Use a Store Event Sink

-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Problem deleting e-mails


When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try to
delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.  It
was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?

Exchange 2K sp3
Windows 2K sp4 


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office



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RE: E2K to E2K

2003-09-04 Thread Steve Molkentin 
Eric,

Single mailbox, or whole server?

If the latter, the FAQ has _THE_ method (EdC method).

If the former, ExMerge is the goods - however note you will lose your
SIS capabilities on the mailbox you move.

themolk.

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> What is the best method for migrating from Mailbox to Mailbox sever?
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> Exmerge, E2K migration tool?
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> 
> Eric
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E2K to E2K

2003-09-04 Thread Eric Holtzclaw 
What is the best method for migrating from Mailbox to Mailbox sever?

Exmerge, E2K migration tool?


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New E2K Roll-up fix working OK

2003-09-04 Thread MS Exchange List 

Hello,

FWIW, the newly released E2K post-SP3 Roll-up fix has been working fine
on a "production techie" server for over a day now.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;813840

E2K: Native, Scanmail 6.1
OS: w2K, SP3 + all critical fixes , native

OUTLOOK/MAPI, OWA, POP, IMAP used regularly on this server.

YMMV,
Brent

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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Martin Blackstone 
Did we ever get an answer on what AV product it was? 

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails

Any one of these get you going in the right direction?

(I am betting it's this first one)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;817886
817886 - Error Message: Some Items Could Not Be Deleted. They Were Either
Moved or Already Deleted, or Access Was Denied.

I get this error all the time, when trying to select and delete more than
3,500-4,000 messages at a time...don't care what MS says, shift+delete
doesn't work either.  The only thing that works is to reselect a smaller
number of items.  This error doesn't just affect OL2003 either...I've gotten
it and seen users get it since OL97.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;195863
195863 - OL2000: (CW) ErrMsg: The Item Could Not Be Deleted

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;326396
326396 - XADM: Cannot Delete or Move Messages in Messaging Client

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;325445
325445 - XADM: You Cannot Soft Delete or Move Messages If the Mailbox Is
Over Its Quota Limit and You Use a Store Event Sink

-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Problem deleting e-mails


When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try to
delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.  It
was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?

Exchange 2K sp3
Windows 2K sp4 


Adam Berns
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim) 
Any one of these get you going in the right direction?

(I am betting it's this first one)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;817886
817886 - Error Message: Some Items Could Not Be Deleted. They Were Either
Moved or Already Deleted, or Access Was Denied.

I get this error all the time, when trying to select and delete more than
3,500-4,000 messages at a time...don't care what MS says, shift+delete
doesn't work either.  The only thing that works is to reselect a smaller
number of items.  This error doesn't just affect OL2003 either...I've gotten
it and seen users get it since OL97.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;195863
195863 - OL2000: (CW) ErrMsg: The Item Could Not Be Deleted

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;326396
326396 - XADM: Cannot Delete or Move Messages in Messaging Client

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;325445
325445 - XADM: You Cannot Soft Delete or Move Messages If the Mailbox Is
Over Its Quota Limit and You Use a Store Event Sink

-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Problem deleting e-mails


When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try to
delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.  It
was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?

Exchange 2K sp3
Windows 2K sp4 


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office



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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Chris Scharff 
What's the best AV software?

-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:01 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails

Do you use Outlook?

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> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:41 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
> 
> 
> Maybe I'm missing something here but I'm going to answer 
> anyway. Microsoft
> is no longer holding MEC conferences, they have integrated it with
> Tech-ED, however, there is a separate Exchange Conference in 
> which you can
> participate:
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> http://www.devconnections.com/exc/
> 
> Have fun.
> 
> > Does anyone know where MEC is this year?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Erik Sojka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:15 PM
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > Maybe a new SMTP banner prevents thread hijacking...
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:13 PM
> >> To: Exchange Discussions
> >> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >>
> >>
> >> I never really understand why people want to change it. Yea, I know
> >> security, but what does that really help?
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:14 PM
> >> To: Exchange Discussions
> >> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >>
> >> You don't.
> >>
> >> Put a relay server in front of it that has this feature.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:46 PM
> >> > Posted To: swynk
> >> > Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
> >> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >> >
> >> > Hey Guys,
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for 
> Exchange 5.5?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Erik Sojka 
Do you use Outlook?

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:41 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
> 
> 
> Maybe I'm missing something here but I'm going to answer 
> anyway. Microsoft
> is no longer holding MEC conferences, they have integrated it with
> Tech-ED, however, there is a separate Exchange Conference in 
> which you can
> participate:
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> 
> Have fun.
> 
> > Does anyone know where MEC is this year?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Erik Sojka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:15 PM
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > Maybe a new SMTP banner prevents thread hijacking...
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:13 PM
> >> To: Exchange Discussions
> >> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >>
> >>
> >> I never really understand why people want to change it. Yea, I know
> >> security, but what does that really help?
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:14 PM
> >> To: Exchange Discussions
> >> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >>
> >> You don't.
> >>
> >> Put a relay server in front of it that has this feature.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:46 PM
> >> > Posted To: swynk
> >> > Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
> >> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >> >
> >> > Hey Guys,
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for 
> Exchange 5.5?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
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Re: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Andy David 
Wag:
Maybe RFC2821 4.3.1 ?
Though I dont see where is says the greeting name MUST match the hostname.



- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:47 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


Yeah, so I was thinking about what RFCs might be violated when I saw
your initial post... I'm not sure that any are violated by your SMTP
banner saying whatever the heck you want it to say There might be an
RFC that's violated y you saying helo foo.invalid.domain.com in an SMTP
conversation, but I looked around and couldn't find one. What RFC
snippets is he sending?

-Original Message-
From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:32 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails

I really don't have a problem with it actually...but you had to see this
one
e-mail admin
He started e-mailing excerpts from the RFC's rules and guidelines on
SMTP
regulations and stuffand he even sent it to my CIO
Just wondering if it could be done, or just wait till we go to exchange
2000
which resolves that...

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails

Oh heck,you see mail servers all the time whose "greeting name" doesnt
match
their host name. Thats what you are referring to yes?
I suspect most mail servers will not reject mail because of that.
You will need to use some sort of relay to accomplish that with 5.5 or
as
Chris mentioned, I guess you could pay MCS to change it for you.



- Original Message - 
From: "Paul kondilys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:17 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> Reason is I'm running AD, and my exchange server is showing up on a
.local
> domainand it's upsetting some other e-mail admins out there
>
> So I was wondering if you can change the banner to display that the
e-mail
> server is really exchsvr1."mydomain".com  ??
>
> Thanks
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> I never really understand why people want to change it. Yea, I know
> security, but what does that really help?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> You don't.
>
> Put a relay server in front of it that has this feature.
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:46 PM
> > Posted To: swynk
> > Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> > Hey Guys,
> >
> > Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for Exchange 5.5?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Chris Scharff 
And in 5.5 IIRC this is built from the DNS suffix of the Exchange
server. I'm going to assume this is 5.5 on W2K and I believe that simply
by going to my computer | computer name | change | more - you can change
the DNS name to be whatever externally valid one you'd like. 

But I'm going to go out on a limb and guess (without having seen it)
that whatever RFC he says you are violating isn't standards track.. and
as such the proper response is fsck off. 

-Original Message-
From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:32 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails

I really don't have a problem with it actually...but you had to see this
one
e-mail admin
He started e-mailing excerpts from the RFC's rules and guidelines on
SMTP
regulations and stuffand he even sent it to my CIO
Just wondering if it could be done, or just wait till we go to exchange
2000
which resolves that...

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails

Oh heck,you see mail servers all the time whose "greeting name" doesnt
match
their host name. Thats what you are referring to yes?
I suspect most mail servers will not reject mail because of that.
You will need to use some sort of relay to accomplish that with 5.5 or
as
Chris mentioned, I guess you could pay MCS to change it for you.



- Original Message - 
From: "Paul kondilys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:17 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> Reason is I'm running AD, and my exchange server is showing up on a
.local
> domainand it's upsetting some other e-mail admins out there
>
> So I was wondering if you can change the banner to display that the
e-mail
> server is really exchsvr1."mydomain".com  ??
>
> Thanks
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> I never really understand why people want to change it. Yea, I know
> security, but what does that really help?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> You don't.
>
> Put a relay server in front of it that has this feature.
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:46 PM
> > Posted To: swynk
> > Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> > Hey Guys,
> >
> > Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for Exchange 5.5?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Martin Blackstone 
Mayberry RFC 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails

Yeah, so I was thinking about what RFCs might be violated when I saw
your initial post... I'm not sure that any are violated by your SMTP
banner saying whatever the heck you want it to say There might be an
RFC that's violated y you saying helo foo.invalid.domain.com in an SMTP
conversation, but I looked around and couldn't find one. What RFC
snippets is he sending?

-Original Message-
From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:32 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails

I really don't have a problem with it actually...but you had to see this
one
e-mail admin
He started e-mailing excerpts from the RFC's rules and guidelines on
SMTP
regulations and stuffand he even sent it to my CIO
Just wondering if it could be done, or just wait till we go to exchange
2000
which resolves that...

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails

Oh heck,you see mail servers all the time whose "greeting name" doesnt
match
their host name. Thats what you are referring to yes?
I suspect most mail servers will not reject mail because of that.
You will need to use some sort of relay to accomplish that with 5.5 or
as
Chris mentioned, I guess you could pay MCS to change it for you.



- Original Message - 
From: "Paul kondilys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:17 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> Reason is I'm running AD, and my exchange server is showing up on a
.local
> domainand it's upsetting some other e-mail admins out there
>
> So I was wondering if you can change the banner to display that the
e-mail
> server is really exchsvr1."mydomain".com  ??
>
> Thanks
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> I never really understand why people want to change it. Yea, I know
> security, but what does that really help?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> You don't.
>
> Put a relay server in front of it that has this feature.
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:46 PM
> > Posted To: swynk
> > Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> > Hey Guys,
> >
> > Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for Exchange 5.5?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Chris Scharff 
Yeah, so I was thinking about what RFCs might be violated when I saw
your initial post... I'm not sure that any are violated by your SMTP
banner saying whatever the heck you want it to say There might be an
RFC that's violated y you saying helo foo.invalid.domain.com in an SMTP
conversation, but I looked around and couldn't find one. What RFC
snippets is he sending?

-Original Message-
From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:32 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails

I really don't have a problem with it actually...but you had to see this
one
e-mail admin
He started e-mailing excerpts from the RFC's rules and guidelines on
SMTP
regulations and stuffand he even sent it to my CIO
Just wondering if it could be done, or just wait till we go to exchange
2000
which resolves that...

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails

Oh heck,you see mail servers all the time whose "greeting name" doesnt
match
their host name. Thats what you are referring to yes?
I suspect most mail servers will not reject mail because of that.
You will need to use some sort of relay to accomplish that with 5.5 or
as
Chris mentioned, I guess you could pay MCS to change it for you.



- Original Message - 
From: "Paul kondilys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:17 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> Reason is I'm running AD, and my exchange server is showing up on a
.local
> domainand it's upsetting some other e-mail admins out there
>
> So I was wondering if you can change the banner to display that the
e-mail
> server is really exchsvr1."mydomain".com  ??
>
> Thanks
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> I never really understand why people want to change it. Yea, I know
> security, but what does that really help?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> You don't.
>
> Put a relay server in front of it that has this feature.
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:46 PM
> > Posted To: swynk
> > Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> > Hey Guys,
> >
> > Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for Exchange 5.5?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread tcups 
Maybe I'm missing something here but I'm going to answer anyway. Microsoft
is no longer holding MEC conferences, they have integrated it with
Tech-ED, however, there is a separate Exchange Conference in which you can
participate:

http://www.devconnections.com/exc/

Have fun.

> Does anyone know where MEC is this year?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Erik Sojka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:15 PM
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> Maybe a new SMTP banner prevents thread hijacking...
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:13 PM
>> To: Exchange Discussions
>> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>>
>>
>> I never really understand why people want to change it. Yea, I know
>> security, but what does that really help?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:14 PM
>> To: Exchange Discussions
>> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>>
>> You don't.
>>
>> Put a relay server in front of it that has this feature.
>>
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:46 PM
>> > Posted To: swynk
>> > Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
>> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>> >
>> > Hey Guys,
>> >
>> > Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for Exchange 5.5?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Paul kondilys 
Good one

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails

Remind your CIO that the mere fact you are using Exchange probably violates
a dozen RFCs as it is.

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul kondilys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:32 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> I really don't have a problem with it actually...but you had to see this
one
> e-mail admin
> He started e-mailing excerpts from the RFC's rules and guidelines on SMTP
> regulations and stuffand he even sent it to my CIO
> Just wondering if it could be done, or just wait till we go to exchange
2000
> which resolves that...
>
> Thanks
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:28 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> Oh heck,you see mail servers all the time whose "greeting name" doesnt
match
> their host name. Thats what you are referring to yes?
> I suspect most mail servers will not reject mail because of that.
> You will need to use some sort of relay to accomplish that with 5.5 or as
> Chris mentioned, I guess you could pay MCS to change it for you.
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Paul kondilys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:17 PM
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> > Reason is I'm running AD, and my exchange server is showing up on a
.local
> > domainand it's upsetting some other e-mail admins out there
> >
> > So I was wondering if you can change the banner to display that the
e-mail
> > server is really exchsvr1."mydomain".com  ??
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:13 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> > I never really understand why people want to change it. Yea, I know
> > security, but what does that really help?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:14 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> > You don't.
> >
> > Put a relay server in front of it that has this feature.
> >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:46 PM
> > > Posted To: swynk
> > > Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
> > > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> > >
> > > Hey Guys,
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for Exchange 5.5?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _
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Re: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Andy David 
Remind your CIO that the mere fact you are using Exchange probably violates
a dozen RFCs as it is.

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul kondilys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:32 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> I really don't have a problem with it actually...but you had to see this
one
> e-mail admin
> He started e-mailing excerpts from the RFC's rules and guidelines on SMTP
> regulations and stuffand he even sent it to my CIO
> Just wondering if it could be done, or just wait till we go to exchange
2000
> which resolves that...
>
> Thanks
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:28 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> Oh heck,you see mail servers all the time whose "greeting name" doesnt
match
> their host name. Thats what you are referring to yes?
> I suspect most mail servers will not reject mail because of that.
> You will need to use some sort of relay to accomplish that with 5.5 or as
> Chris mentioned, I guess you could pay MCS to change it for you.
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Paul kondilys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:17 PM
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> > Reason is I'm running AD, and my exchange server is showing up on a
.local
> > domainand it's upsetting some other e-mail admins out there
> >
> > So I was wondering if you can change the banner to display that the
e-mail
> > server is really exchsvr1."mydomain".com  ??
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:13 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> > I never really understand why people want to change it. Yea, I know
> > security, but what does that really help?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:14 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> > You don't.
> >
> > Put a relay server in front of it that has this feature.
> >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:46 PM
> > > Posted To: swynk
> > > Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
> > > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> > >
> > > Hey Guys,
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for Exchange 5.5?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _
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> > >
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Martin Blackstone 
You only question you should be asking is will there be enough toilets. 

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails

Does anyone know where MEC is this year?

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Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:15 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


Maybe a new SMTP banner prevents thread hijacking...

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> I never really understand why people want to change it. Yea, I know
> security, but what does that really help?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> You don't.
>
> Put a relay server in front of it that has this feature.
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:46 PM
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> > Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
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Re: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Andy David 
Does anyone know where MEC is this year?

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From: "Erik Sojka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:15 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


Maybe a new SMTP banner prevents thread hijacking...

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> I never really understand why people want to change it. Yea, I know
> security, but what does that really help?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> You don't.
>
> Put a relay server in front of it that has this feature.
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:46 PM
> > Posted To: swynk
> > Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
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> >
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Paul kondilys 
I really don't have a problem with it actually...but you had to see this one
e-mail admin
He started e-mailing excerpts from the RFC's rules and guidelines on SMTP
regulations and stuffand he even sent it to my CIO
Just wondering if it could be done, or just wait till we go to exchange 2000
which resolves that...

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails

Oh heck,you see mail servers all the time whose "greeting name" doesnt match
their host name. Thats what you are referring to yes?
I suspect most mail servers will not reject mail because of that.
You will need to use some sort of relay to accomplish that with 5.5 or as
Chris mentioned, I guess you could pay MCS to change it for you.



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From: "Paul kondilys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:17 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> Reason is I'm running AD, and my exchange server is showing up on a .local
> domainand it's upsetting some other e-mail admins out there
>
> So I was wondering if you can change the banner to display that the e-mail
> server is really exchsvr1."mydomain".com  ??
>
> Thanks
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> I never really understand why people want to change it. Yea, I know
> security, but what does that really help?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> You don't.
>
> Put a relay server in front of it that has this feature.
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:46 PM
> > Posted To: swynk
> > Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
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> >
> > Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for Exchange 5.5?
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> > Thanks,
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Re: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Andy David 
Oh heck,you see mail servers all the time whose "greeting name" doesnt match
their host name. Thats what you are referring to yes?
I suspect most mail servers will not reject mail because of that.
You will need to use some sort of relay to accomplish that with 5.5 or as
Chris mentioned, I guess you could pay MCS to change it for you.



- Original Message - 
From: "Paul kondilys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:17 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> Reason is I'm running AD, and my exchange server is showing up on a .local
> domainand it's upsetting some other e-mail admins out there
>
> So I was wondering if you can change the banner to display that the e-mail
> server is really exchsvr1."mydomain".com  ??
>
> Thanks
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> I never really understand why people want to change it. Yea, I know
> security, but what does that really help?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> You don't.
>
> Put a relay server in front of it that has this feature.
>
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:46 PM
> > Posted To: swynk
> > Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> > Hey Guys,
> >
> > Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for Exchange 5.5?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Paul kondilys 
Reason is I'm running AD, and my exchange server is showing up on a .local
domainand it's upsetting some other e-mail admins out there

So I was wondering if you can change the banner to display that the e-mail
server is really exchsvr1."mydomain".com  ??

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails

I never really understand why people want to change it. Yea, I know
security, but what does that really help? 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails

You don't.

Put a relay server in front of it that has this feature.

>
> -Original Message-
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> Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:46 PM
> Posted To: swynk
> Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> Hey Guys,
>
> Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for Exchange 5.5?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread tcups 
I agree with you, I wouldn't change it either. I'm just giving an
alternative.

> I never really understand why people want to change it. Yea, I know
> security, but what does that really help?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> You don't.
>
> Put a relay server in front of it that has this feature.
>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:46 PM
>> Posted To: swynk
>> Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
>> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>>
>> Hey Guys,
>>
>> Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for Exchange 5.5?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Erik Sojka 
Maybe a new SMTP banner prevents thread hijacking...

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> 
> 
> I never really understand why people want to change it. Yea, I know
> security, but what does that really help? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> 
> You don't.
> 
> Put a relay server in front of it that has this feature.
> 
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:46 PM
> > Posted To: swynk
> > Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
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> >
> > Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for Exchange 5.5?
> >
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Martin Blackstone 
I never really understand why people want to change it. Yea, I know
security, but what does that really help? 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails

You don't.

Put a relay server in front of it that has this feature.

>
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> Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:46 PM
> Posted To: swynk
> Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> Hey Guys,
>
> Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for Exchange 5.5?
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>
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread tcups 
You don't.

Put a relay server in front of it that has this feature.

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> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
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> Hey Guys,
>
> Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for Exchange 5.5?
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Chris Scharff 
lol.. no need.

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Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:10 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails

Im taking bets what vendor he is using.

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From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:07 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


Try uninstalling the AV software.

-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:06 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails

Been there, done that, disabled A/V on the server and the client.


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails


So you disabled it and you still couldnt delete the emails?
What AV software are you using?  It wouldnt hurt to temporarily disable
it
on the client as well.
Its at least worth a try.





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From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> Already went through that path, no luck...
>
> 
> Adam Berns
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> 650-919-5966 Office
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:47 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> Any AV software on the server?
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:43 PM
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> > Shift+Del does not work.  It's like the messages just are not in the
> > database, though they show up in the client.  They can't be opened,
moved,
> > or deleted.
> >
> > 
> > Adam Berns
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> > 650-919-5966 Office
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:38 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > Are they over their quota?  Did you try 'shift-delete'?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I
try
> > to
> > delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be
deleted.
> > It
> > was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I
look at
> > their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but
can't
> > delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?
> >
> > Exchange 2K sp3
> > Windows 2K sp4
> >
> > 
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Martin Blackstone 
Did you reboot after disabling the AV services on the server? Try that.
You may have to uninstall the AV. BTW, which AV is on the server? 

-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails

Been there, done that, disabled A/V on the server and the client.


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails


So you disabled it and you still couldnt delete the emails?
What AV software are you using?  It wouldnt hurt to temporarily disable it
on the client as well.
Its at least worth a try.





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From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> Already went through that path, no luck...
>
> 
> Adam Berns
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> 650-919-5966 Office
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:47 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> Any AV software on the server?
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:43 PM
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> > Shift+Del does not work.  It's like the messages just are not in the
> > database, though they show up in the client.  They can't be opened,
moved,
> > or deleted.
> >
> > 
> > Adam Berns
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> > 650-919-5966 Office
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:38 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > Are they over their quota?  Did you try 'shift-delete'?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try
> > to
> > delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.
> > It
> > was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
> > their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
> > delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?
> >
> > Exchange 2K sp3
> > Windows 2K sp4
> >
> > 
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Martin Blackstone 
Yea. I know. 

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails

Im taking bets what vendor he is using.

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:07 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


Try uninstalling the AV software.

-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:06 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails

Been there, done that, disabled A/V on the server and the client.


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails


So you disabled it and you still couldnt delete the emails?
What AV software are you using?  It wouldnt hurt to temporarily disable
it
on the client as well.
Its at least worth a try.





- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> Already went through that path, no luck...
>
> 
> Adam Berns
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> 650-919-5966 Office
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:47 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> Any AV software on the server?
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:43 PM
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> > Shift+Del does not work.  It's like the messages just are not in the
> > database, though they show up in the client.  They can't be opened,
moved,
> > or deleted.
> >
> > 
> > Adam Berns
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> > 650-919-5966 Office
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:38 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > Are they over their quota?  Did you try 'shift-delete'?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I
try
> > to
> > delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be
deleted.
> > It
> > was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I
look at
> > their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but
can't
> > delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?
> >
> > Exchange 2K sp3
> > Windows 2K sp4
> >
> > 
> > Adam Berns
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> > 650-919-5966 Office
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread tcups 
O

You can use exmerge to remove the message from the store.  There are very
good directions that are included, and it will let you specify pretty
specifically which mail to delete from the store.  I had to do this several
times, and the tool works great.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;174197



> btw... there is no M drive.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Edgington, Jeff
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> Are they over their quota?  Did you try 'shift-delete'?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try
> to
> delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.
> It
> was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
> their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
> delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?
>
> Exchange 2K sp3
> Windows 2K sp4
>
> 
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> 650-919-5966 Office
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Re: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Andy David 
Im taking bets what vendor he is using.

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From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:07 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


Try uninstalling the AV software.

-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:06 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails

Been there, done that, disabled A/V on the server and the client.


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails


So you disabled it and you still couldnt delete the emails?
What AV software are you using?  It wouldnt hurt to temporarily disable
it
on the client as well.
Its at least worth a try.





- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> Already went through that path, no luck...
>
> 
> Adam Berns
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> 650-919-5966 Office
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:47 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> Any AV software on the server?
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:43 PM
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> > Shift+Del does not work.  It's like the messages just are not in the
> > database, though they show up in the client.  They can't be opened,
moved,
> > or deleted.
> >
> > 
> > Adam Berns
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> > 650-919-5966 Office
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:38 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > Are they over their quota?  Did you try 'shift-delete'?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I
try
> > to
> > delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be
deleted.
> > It
> > was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I
look at
> > their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but
can't
> > delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?
> >
> > Exchange 2K sp3
> > Windows 2K sp4
> >
> > 
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> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> > 650-919-5966 Office
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Re: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Andy David 
Or maybe with a Pop3/Imap client.


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From: "Martin Blackstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> Agreed. Also see if you can delete the message in OWA.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:04 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> So you disabled it and you still couldnt delete the emails?
> What AV software are you using?  It wouldnt hurt to temporarily disable it
> on the client as well.
> Its at least worth a try.
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:50 PM
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> > Already went through that path, no luck...
> >
> > 
> > Adam Berns
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> > 650-919-5966 Office
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:47 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > Any AV software on the server?
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:43 PM
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > > Shift+Del does not work.  It's like the messages just are not in the
> > > database, though they show up in the client.  They can't be opened,
> moved,
> > > or deleted.
> > >
> > > 
> > > Adam Berns
> > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> > > 650-919-5966 Office
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:38 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> > >
> > >
> > > Are they over their quota?  Did you try 'shift-delete'?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Problem deleting e-mails
> > >
> > >
> > > When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try
> > > to
> > > delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be
deleted.
> > > It
> > > was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look
at
> > > their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but
can't
> > > delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Exchange 2K sp3
> > > Windows 2K sp4
> > >
> > > 
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread tcups 
Have you tried dragging and dropping the messages into the deleted items
folder? I"ve done that before and it worked for me.

> btw... there is no M drive.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Edgington, Jeff
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> Are they over their quota?  Did you try 'shift-delete'?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try
> to
> delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.
> It
> was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
> their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
> delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?
>
> Exchange 2K sp3
> Windows 2K sp4
>
> 
> Adam Berns
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> 650-919-5966 Office
>
>
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Chris Scharff 
Try uninstalling the AV software.

-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:06 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails

Been there, done that, disabled A/V on the server and the client.


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails


So you disabled it and you still couldnt delete the emails?
What AV software are you using?  It wouldnt hurt to temporarily disable
it
on the client as well.
Its at least worth a try.





- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> Already went through that path, no luck...
>
> 
> Adam Berns
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> 650-919-5966 Office
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:47 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> Any AV software on the server?
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:43 PM
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> > Shift+Del does not work.  It's like the messages just are not in the
> > database, though they show up in the client.  They can't be opened,
moved,
> > or deleted.
> >
> > 
> > Adam Berns
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> > 650-919-5966 Office
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:38 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > Are they over their quota?  Did you try 'shift-delete'?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I
try
> > to
> > delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be
deleted.
> > It
> > was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I
look at
> > their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but
can't
> > delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?
> >
> > Exchange 2K sp3
> > Windows 2K sp4
> >
> > 
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> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> > 650-919-5966 Office
> >
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Robert Blomquist 
I'm telling you, MDBVU32 will suck it right out. It's a MSFT utility, I think it comes 
on the Exchange disk. It would be nice to know what caused it, but this will get rid 
of it.

Robert Blomquist 
Supervisor of Information Technology 
Sabic Americas, Inc. 
713) 532-4999 


-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


Been there, done that, disabled A/V on the server and the client.


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails


So you disabled it and you still couldnt delete the emails?
What AV software are you using?  It wouldnt hurt to temporarily disable it
on the client as well.
Its at least worth a try.





- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> Already went through that path, no luck...
>
> 
> Adam Berns
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> 650-919-5966 Office
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:47 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> Any AV software on the server?
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:43 PM
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> > Shift+Del does not work.  It's like the messages just are not in the
> > database, though they show up in the client.  They can't be opened,
moved,
> > or deleted.
> >
> > 
> > Adam Berns
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> > 650-919-5966 Office
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:38 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > Are they over their quota?  Did you try 'shift-delete'?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try
> > to
> > delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.
> > It
> > was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
> > their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
> > delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?
> >
> > Exchange 2K sp3
> > Windows 2K sp4
> >
> > 
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> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> > 650-919-5966 Office
> >
> >
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Adam Berns 
Been there, done that, disabled A/V on the server and the client.


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails


So you disabled it and you still couldnt delete the emails?
What AV software are you using?  It wouldnt hurt to temporarily disable it
on the client as well.
Its at least worth a try.





- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> Already went through that path, no luck...
>
> 
> Adam Berns
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> 650-919-5966 Office
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:47 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> Any AV software on the server?
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:43 PM
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> > Shift+Del does not work.  It's like the messages just are not in the
> > database, though they show up in the client.  They can't be opened,
moved,
> > or deleted.
> >
> > 
> > Adam Berns
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> > 650-919-5966 Office
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:38 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > Are they over their quota?  Did you try 'shift-delete'?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try
> > to
> > delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.
> > It
> > was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
> > their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
> > delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?
> >
> > Exchange 2K sp3
> > Windows 2K sp4
> >
> > 
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> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> > 650-919-5966 Office
> >
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Martin Blackstone 
Agreed. Also see if you can delete the message in OWA. 

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails

So you disabled it and you still couldnt delete the emails?
What AV software are you using?  It wouldnt hurt to temporarily disable it
on the client as well.
Its at least worth a try.





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From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> Already went through that path, no luck...
>
> 
> Adam Berns
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> 650-919-5966 Office
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:47 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> Any AV software on the server?
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:43 PM
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> > Shift+Del does not work.  It's like the messages just are not in the
> > database, though they show up in the client.  They can't be opened,
moved,
> > or deleted.
> >
> > 
> > Adam Berns
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> > 650-919-5966 Office
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:38 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > Are they over their quota?  Did you try 'shift-delete'?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try
> > to
> > delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.
> > It
> > was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
> > their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
> > delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?
> >
> > Exchange 2K sp3
> > Windows 2K sp4
> >
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Re: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Andy David 
So you disabled it and you still couldnt delete the emails?
What AV software are you using?  It wouldnt hurt to temporarily disable it
on the client as well.
Its at least worth a try.





- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> Already went through that path, no luck...
>
> 
> Adam Berns
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> 650-919-5966 Office
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:47 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> Any AV software on the server?
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:43 PM
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> > Shift+Del does not work.  It's like the messages just are not in the
> > database, though they show up in the client.  They can't be opened,
moved,
> > or deleted.
> >
> > 
> > Adam Berns
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> > 650-919-5966 Office
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:38 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > Are they over their quota?  Did you try 'shift-delete'?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Problem deleting e-mails
> >
> >
> > When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try
> > to
> > delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.
> > It
> > was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
> > their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
> > delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?
> >
> > Exchange 2K sp3
> > Windows 2K sp4
> >
> > 
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Chris Scharff 
MCS has a tool to do that I believe.

-Original Message-
From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:46 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Problem deleting e-mails
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails

Hey Guys,

Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for Exchange 5.5?

Thanks,



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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Adam Berns 
Already went through that path, no luck...


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-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Problem deleting e-mails


Any AV software on the server?

- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:43 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> Shift+Del does not work.  It's like the messages just are not in the
> database, though they show up in the client.  They can't be opened, moved,
> or deleted.
>
> 
> Adam Berns
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> 650-919-5966 Office
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> Are they over their quota?  Did you try 'shift-delete'?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try
> to
> delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.
> It
> was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
> their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
> delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?
>
> Exchange 2K sp3
> Windows 2K sp4
>
> 
> Adam Berns
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> 650-919-5966 Office
>
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Re: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Andy David 
Not in 5.5


- Original Message - 
From: "Paul kondilys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:46 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> Hey Guys,
>
> Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for Exchange 5.5?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:44 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
> Shift+Del does not work.  It's like the messages just are not in the
> database, though they show up in the client.  They can't be opened, moved,
> or deleted.
>
> 
> Adam Berns
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> 650-919-5966 Office
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> Are they over their quota?  Did you try 'shift-delete'?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try
> to
> delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.
> It
> was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
> their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
> delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?
>
> Exchange 2K sp3
> Windows 2K sp4
>
> 
> Adam Berns
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> 650-919-5966 Office
>
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Re: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Andy David 
Any AV software on the server?

- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Berns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:43 PM
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


> Shift+Del does not work.  It's like the messages just are not in the
> database, though they show up in the client.  They can't be opened, moved,
> or deleted.
>
> 
> Adam Berns
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> 650-919-5966 Office
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> Are they over their quota?  Did you try 'shift-delete'?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Problem deleting e-mails
>
>
> When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try
> to
> delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.
> It
> was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
> their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
> delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?
>
> Exchange 2K sp3
> Windows 2K sp4
>
> 
> Adam Berns
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Remedy, a BMC Software Company
> 650-919-5966 Office
>
>
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Paul kondilys 
Hey Guys,

Does anyone know if you can change the SMTP banner for Exchange 5.5?

Thanks,

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails

Shift+Del does not work.  It's like the messages just are not in the
database, though they show up in the client.  They can't be opened, moved,
or deleted.


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office



-Original Message-
From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


Are they over their quota?  Did you try 'shift-delete'?



-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Problem deleting e-mails


When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try
to
delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.
It
was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?

Exchange 2K sp3
Windows 2K sp4 


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office



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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Robert Blomquist 
I've had this problem before too. For some reason a certain mail message gets 
"corrupt" and cannot be opened or deleted. I use MDBVU32.EXE to pull out the 
individual message. Be careful using it though. There is an option to delete a single 
mail message. Read up on it so you don't accidentally crap your system out.

Robert Blomquist 
Supervisor of Information Technology 

 


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From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Problem deleting e-mails


When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try to
delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.  It
was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?

Exchange 2K sp3
Windows 2K sp4 


Adam Berns
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650-919-5966 Office



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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Adam Berns 
Shift+Del does not work.  It's like the messages just are not in the
database, though they show up in the client.  They can't be opened, moved,
or deleted.


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
Remedy, a BMC Software Company
650-919-5966 Office



-Original Message-
From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


Are they over their quota?  Did you try 'shift-delete'?



-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Problem deleting e-mails


When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try
to
delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.
It
was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?

Exchange 2K sp3
Windows 2K sp4 


Adam Berns
Sr. Systems Administrator
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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Joe Pochedley 
We used to have this problem with some mail that used custom forms...
The only way to delete the messages was by using SHIFT+Delete from
Outlook.  Of course after we did away with that particular custom form,
haven't seen the problem since.

Joe Pochedley
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it himself.



-Original Message-
From: Adam Berns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Problem deleting e-mails


When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try
to
delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.
It
was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?

Exchange 2K sp3
Windows 2K sp4 


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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Edgington, Jeff 
btw... there is no M drive.



-Original Message-
From: Edgington, Jeff 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Problem deleting e-mails


Are they over their quota?  Did you try 'shift-delete'?



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Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Problem deleting e-mails


When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try
to
delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.
It
was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?

Exchange 2K sp3
Windows 2K sp4 


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RE: Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Edgington, Jeff 
Are they over their quota?  Did you try 'shift-delete'?



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Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Problem deleting e-mails


When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try
to
delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.
It
was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?

Exchange 2K sp3
Windows 2K sp4 


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Problem deleting e-mails

2003-09-04 Thread Adam Berns 
When I launch outlook, I see the messages in the inbox, but when I try to
delete them, I get the following error:  "The item could not be deleted.  It
was either moved or already deleted, or access was denied." If I look at
their MBX folder on the M drive, I do see the messages there, but can't
delete it from that location either.  Any ideas?

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RE: Routing Goups query

2003-09-04 Thread Etts, Russell 
If you can't send from the box, try running WinRoute and see information
that provides...

Thanks

Russell

 

-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routing Goups query

It's not that.
I cannot send any mail out from the box. and the only difference I see
between the non working server, and the working server is that the non
working server has routing groups whereas the working one has
connectors.

That is why I was looking at the routing groups issue.

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routing Goups query


Go to the properties of the organization (the top-most item in the ESM's
left pane) and change the settings to not display admin groups and
routing groups.

But why do you hate seeing the routing groups so much anyway?

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routing Goups query

I only have one exchange server here at work, yet I do not have routing
groups.
At least under the first admin group.
I have:
servers, connectors, and folders

At home I have:
Servers, routing groups, and folders.

Is this anywhere close to why I cannot send mail with the home system?

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routing Goups query


All Exchange servers are a member of a routing group. With only one
server you only have 1 routing group, so the server directly
communicates with all other servers in the routing group (e.g. itself).

-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday,
September 04, 2003 10:59 AM Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Postmaster question
Subject: Routing Goups query

I am having an issue with a fresh Ex2K install.
Somehow the system is using routing groups under the first admin group.
I do not want to use routing groups.
I only have one sever.

Where do I make the change to lose the routing groups option?

If I have to reinstall, so be it.  But I would rather not.


Thanks ahead of time.


John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 7:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Postmaster question


On this same issue, and out of curiosity, what are your general policies
about reading the NDR's attachments to determine troubleshooting steps?

Thank you,
Mitchell D. Lawrence
** (Pick Two)**

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Postmaster question

Go to Servers-> your server -> Protocols -> SMTP -> Default SMTP server.
Right click and select properties. Then go to the Messages tab. In the
box that says "Send copies of Non-Delivery Receipts" put in the address
you wish

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry J.
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Postmaster question


Silly question but I cannot find what I am looking for. I have
postmaster set up to goto my mailbox but I am not getting anything to
it. I even send a mail to a known bad address and I never get anything
to postmaster. Where in exchange 2k do I find how to turn this on if its
not on by default. I can send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
get it fine but not getting any NDR's or the like.

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RE: Routing Goups query

2003-09-04 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey 
You are focusing on a wrong issue. Don't get obsessed with routing
groups.

The real issue is most likely with DNS.

Is your Exchange server registered with Active Directory's DNS?

Is your DNS using root hints or forwarders to some other DNS servers?

Does your DNS have a DOT zone (zone name looks like a single dot ".")?
If you got the DOT zone, you will have to remove it, otherwise your DNS
"thinks" that it is the top of the world.

>From your exchange server, can you do NSLOOKUP and correctly resolve the
MX records of the Internet domain names to which you are trying to send
mail?

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routing Goups query

It's not that.
I cannot send any mail out from the box. and the only difference I see
between the non working server, and the working server is that the non
working server has routing groups whereas the working one has
connectors.

That is why I was looking at the routing groups issue.

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routing Goups query


Go to the properties of the organization (the top-most item in the ESM's
left pane) and change the settings to not display admin groups and
routing groups.

But why do you hate seeing the routing groups so much anyway?

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routing Goups query

I only have one exchange server here at work, yet I do not have routing
groups.
At least under the first admin group.
I have:
servers, connectors, and folders

At home I have:
Servers, routing groups, and folders.

Is this anywhere close to why I cannot send mail with the home system?

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routing Goups query


All Exchange servers are a member of a routing group. With only one
server you only have 1 routing group, so the server directly
communicates with all other servers in the routing group (e.g. itself).

-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:59 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Postmaster question
Subject: Routing Goups query

I am having an issue with a fresh Ex2K install.
Somehow the system is using routing groups under the first admin group.
I do not want to use routing groups.
I only have one sever.

Where do I make the change to lose the routing groups option?

If I have to reinstall, so be it.  But I would rather not.


Thanks ahead of time.


John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 7:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Postmaster question


On this same issue, and out of curiosity, what are your general policies
about reading the NDR's attachments to determine troubleshooting steps?

Thank you,
Mitchell D. Lawrence
** (Pick Two)**

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Postmaster question

Go to Servers-> your server -> Protocols -> SMTP -> Default SMTP server.
Right click and select properties. Then go to the Messages tab. In the
box that says "Send copies of Non-Delivery Receipts" put in the address
you wish

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry J.
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Postmaster question


Silly question but I cannot find what I am looking for. I have
postmaster set up to goto my mailbox but I am not getting anything to
it. I even send a mail to a known bad address and I never get anything
to postmaster. Where in exch

RE: Routing Goups query

2003-09-04 Thread John Parker 
It's not that.
I cannot send any mail out from the box. and the only difference I see between the non 
working server, and the working server is that the non working server has routing 
groups whereas the working one has connectors.

That is why I was looking at the routing groups issue.

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routing Goups query


Go to the properties of the organization (the top-most item in the ESM's
left pane) and change the settings to not display admin groups and
routing groups.

But why do you hate seeing the routing groups so much anyway?

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routing Goups query

I only have one exchange server here at work, yet I do not have routing
groups.
At least under the first admin group.
I have:
servers, connectors, and folders

At home I have:
Servers, routing groups, and folders.

Is this anywhere close to why I cannot send mail with the home system?

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routing Goups query


All Exchange servers are a member of a routing group. With only one
server you only have 1 routing group, so the server directly
communicates with all other servers in the routing group (e.g. itself).

-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:59 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Postmaster question
Subject: Routing Goups query

I am having an issue with a fresh Ex2K install.
Somehow the system is using routing groups under the first admin group.
I do not want to use routing groups.
I only have one sever.

Where do I make the change to lose the routing groups option?

If I have to reinstall, so be it.  But I would rather not.


Thanks ahead of time.


John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 7:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Postmaster question


On this same issue, and out of curiosity, what are your general policies
about reading the NDR's attachments to determine troubleshooting steps?

Thank you,
Mitchell D. Lawrence
** (Pick Two)**

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Postmaster question

Go to Servers-> your server -> Protocols -> SMTP -> Default SMTP server.
Right click and select properties. Then go to the Messages tab. In the
box that says "Send copies of Non-Delivery Receipts" put in the address
you wish

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry J.
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Postmaster question


Silly question but I cannot find what I am looking for. I have
postmaster set up to goto my mailbox but I am not getting anything to
it. I even send a mail to a known bad address and I never get anything
to postmaster. Where in exchange 2k do I find how to turn this on if its
not on by default. I can send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
get it fine but not getting any NDR's or the like.

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RE: Routing Goups query

2003-09-04 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey 
Go to the properties of the organization (the top-most item in the ESM's
left pane) and change the settings to not display admin groups and
routing groups.

But why do you hate seeing the routing groups so much anyway?

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routing Goups query

I only have one exchange server here at work, yet I do not have routing
groups.
At least under the first admin group.
I have:
servers, connectors, and folders

At home I have:
Servers, routing groups, and folders.

Is this anywhere close to why I cannot send mail with the home system?

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routing Goups query


All Exchange servers are a member of a routing group. With only one
server you only have 1 routing group, so the server directly
communicates with all other servers in the routing group (e.g. itself).

-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:59 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Postmaster question
Subject: Routing Goups query

I am having an issue with a fresh Ex2K install.
Somehow the system is using routing groups under the first admin group.
I do not want to use routing groups.
I only have one sever.

Where do I make the change to lose the routing groups option?

If I have to reinstall, so be it.  But I would rather not.


Thanks ahead of time.


John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 7:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Postmaster question


On this same issue, and out of curiosity, what are your general policies
about reading the NDR's attachments to determine troubleshooting steps?

Thank you,
Mitchell D. Lawrence
** (Pick Two)**

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Postmaster question

Go to Servers-> your server -> Protocols -> SMTP -> Default SMTP server.
Right click and select properties. Then go to the Messages tab. In the
box that says "Send copies of Non-Delivery Receipts" put in the address
you wish

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry J.
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Postmaster question


Silly question but I cannot find what I am looking for. I have
postmaster set up to goto my mailbox but I am not getting anything to
it. I even send a mail to a known bad address and I never get anything
to postmaster. Where in exchange 2k do I find how to turn this on if its
not on by default. I can send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
get it fine but not getting any NDR's or the like.

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RE: Routing Goups query

2003-09-04 Thread John Parker 
I only have one exchange server here at work, yet I do not have routing groups.
At least under the first admin group.
I have:
servers, connectors, and folders

At home I have:
Servers, routing groups, and folders.

Is this anywhere close to why I cannot send mail with the home system?

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

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-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Routing Goups query


All Exchange servers are a member of a routing group. With only one
server you only have 1 routing group, so the server directly
communicates with all other servers in the routing group (e.g. itself).

-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:59 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Postmaster question
Subject: Routing Goups query

I am having an issue with a fresh Ex2K install.
Somehow the system is using routing groups under the first admin group.
I do not want to use routing groups.
I only have one sever.

Where do I make the change to lose the routing groups option?

If I have to reinstall, so be it.  But I would rather not.


Thanks ahead of time.


John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
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952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
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612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

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-Original Message-
From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 7:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Postmaster question


On this same issue, and out of curiosity, what are your general policies
about reading the NDR's attachments to determine troubleshooting steps?

Thank you,
Mitchell D. Lawrence
** (Pick Two)**

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Postmaster question

Go to Servers-> your server -> Protocols -> SMTP -> Default SMTP server.
Right click and select properties. Then go to the Messages tab. In the
box that says "Send copies of Non-Delivery Receipts" put in the address
you wish

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry J.
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Postmaster question


Silly question but I cannot find what I am looking for. I have
postmaster set up to goto my mailbox but I am not getting anything to
it. I even send a mail to a known bad address and I never get anything
to postmaster. Where in exchange 2k do I find how to turn this on if its
not on by default. I can send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
get it fine but not getting any NDR's or the like.

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RE: auto BCC'ing all messages

2003-09-04 Thread Erik Sojka 
I can read Martin's email via his open relay. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:21 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: auto BCC'ing all messages
> 
> 
> I think that point is that it isn't for you to make that 
> decision. Getting
> it in writing from HR takes the potential for issues off of you. 
> 
> As an example where I work if there is a request by a manager 
> or another
> employee to read ones email, it must be signed off on by the 
> CEO and then
> HR. I made that policy as like I said, it isn't mine or a 
> managers decision
> on who's email gets read. There needs to be a paper trail.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:19 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: auto BCC'ing all messages
> 
> Why do you consider it dangerous?  This is company hardware, company
> software and when your hired it's made clear to not use this 
> for personal
> use.  I don't believe there are any legal or ethical problems 
> with reading
> anyone's e-mail if it originates on my server.
> 
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Patrick Scribner, MCSE
> DBA
> Westwood College
> 303-464-2381
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: auto BCC'ing all messages
> 
> 
> This is a dangerous area of potential liability.
> I would not comply without a written request from HR.
> It would be good to set up a specific policy for future 
> requests like this.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:02 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: auto BCC'ing all messages
> 
> 
> Has anyone had a request to automatically BCC all messages 
> being sent out of
> a mailbox also be sent to another user?  for example
> 
> Joe smith is suspected of wrongdoing.  His boss Bob doesn't 
> know for sure.
> So Bob requests that all e-mail's Joe sends also be sent to him.
> 
> Is this possible?
> 
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Patrick Scribner, MCSE
> DBA
> Westwood College
> 303-464-2381
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> 
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RE: auto BCC'ing all messages

2003-09-04 Thread Patrick Scribner 
Thank you for clarifying what you were saying.  But I am following the high road here 
and requesting that the CIO and HR both sign off on it.

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-464-2381
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  


-Original Message-
From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: auto BCC'ing all messages


Thank you Martin for clarifying what I meant.
The other day was a real rush and the message got sent before it was complete.

Patrick,
This is an area where you really need to CYA. The privacy laws in some areas of the 
world are MUCH stricter than in others.
Consider:
Boss B asks to see Boss A's mail. Both Boss A and B and higher up the food chain than 
you, but Boss A is higher than B, but not THE BOSS. What do you do?
You can fall back  to your policy and get it in writing from HR. If they can't get it 
from HR then your covered in telling them no. 
There are a many situations to consider.
Or you could just let any boss who asks read anyones email for any reason, real or 
imagined.
RAchel




-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: auto BCC'ing all messages


I think that point is that it isn't for you to make that decision. Getting
it in writing from HR takes the potential for issues off of you. 

As an example where I work if there is a request by a manager or another
employee to read ones email, it must be signed off on by the CEO and then
HR. I made that policy as like I said, it isn't mine or a managers decision
on who's email gets read. There needs to be a paper trail.

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: auto BCC'ing all messages

Why do you consider it dangerous?  This is company hardware, company
software and when your hired it's made clear to not use this for personal
use.  I don't believe there are any legal or ethical problems with reading
anyone's e-mail if it originates on my server.

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-464-2381
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  


-Original Message-
From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: auto BCC'ing all messages


This is a dangerous area of potential liability.
I would not comply without a written request from HR.
It would be good to set up a specific policy for future requests like this.

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: auto BCC'ing all messages


Has anyone had a request to automatically BCC all messages being sent out of
a mailbox also be sent to another user?  for example

Joe smith is suspected of wrongdoing.  His boss Bob doesn't know for sure.
So Bob requests that all e-mail's Joe sends also be sent to him.

Is this possible?

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-464-2381
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

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RE: auto BCC'ing all messages

2003-09-04 Thread Rachel Pickens 
Thank you Martin for clarifying what I meant.
The other day was a real rush and the message got sent before it was complete.

Patrick,
This is an area where you really need to CYA. The privacy laws in some areas of the 
world are MUCH stricter than in others.
Consider:
Boss B asks to see Boss A's mail. Both Boss A and B and higher up the food chain than 
you, but Boss A is higher than B, but not THE BOSS. What do you do?
You can fall back  to your policy and get it in writing from HR. If they can't get it 
from HR then your covered in telling them no. 
There are a many situations to consider.
Or you could just let any boss who asks read anyones email for any reason, real or 
imagined.
RAchel




-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: auto BCC'ing all messages


I think that point is that it isn't for you to make that decision. Getting
it in writing from HR takes the potential for issues off of you. 

As an example where I work if there is a request by a manager or another
employee to read ones email, it must be signed off on by the CEO and then
HR. I made that policy as like I said, it isn't mine or a managers decision
on who's email gets read. There needs to be a paper trail.

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: auto BCC'ing all messages

Why do you consider it dangerous?  This is company hardware, company
software and when your hired it's made clear to not use this for personal
use.  I don't believe there are any legal or ethical problems with reading
anyone's e-mail if it originates on my server.

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-464-2381
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  


-Original Message-
From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: auto BCC'ing all messages


This is a dangerous area of potential liability.
I would not comply without a written request from HR.
It would be good to set up a specific policy for future requests like this.

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: auto BCC'ing all messages


Has anyone had a request to automatically BCC all messages being sent out of
a mailbox also be sent to another user?  for example

Joe smith is suspected of wrongdoing.  His boss Bob doesn't know for sure.
So Bob requests that all e-mail's Joe sends also be sent to him.

Is this possible?

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-464-2381
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

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RE: Routing Goups query

2003-09-04 Thread John Matteson 
You have to have at least one routing group.

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.



-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:59 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Postmaster question
Subject: Routing Goups query


I am having an issue with a fresh Ex2K install.
Somehow the system is using routing groups under the first admin group.
I do not want to use routing groups. I only have one sever.

Where do I make the change to lose the routing groups option?

If I have to reinstall, so be it.  But I would rather not.


Thanks ahead of time.


John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 7:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Postmaster question


On this same issue, and out of curiosity, what are your general policies
about reading the NDR's attachments to determine troubleshooting steps?

Thank you,
Mitchell D. Lawrence
** (Pick Two)**

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Postmaster question

Go to Servers-> your server -> Protocols -> SMTP -> Default SMTP server.
Right click and select properties. Then go to the Messages tab. In the
box that says "Send copies of Non-Delivery Receipts" put in the address
you wish

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry J.
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Postmaster question


Silly question but I cannot find what I am looking for. I have
postmaster set up to goto my mailbox but I am not getting anything to
it. I even send a mail to a known bad address and I never get anything
to postmaster. Where in exchange 2k do I find how to turn this on if its
not on by default. I can send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
get it fine but not getting any NDR's or the like.

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Re: auto BCC'ing all messages

2003-09-04 Thread Andy David 
And there usually is when Martin uses the bathroom.


- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Blackstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:21 PM
Subject: RE: auto BCC'ing all messages


> I think that point is that it isn't for you to make that decision. Getting
> it in writing from HR takes the potential for issues off of you.
>
> As an example where I work if there is a request by a manager or another
> employee to read ones email, it must be signed off on by the CEO and then
> HR. I made that policy as like I said, it isn't mine or a managers
decision
> on who's email gets read. There needs to be a paper trail.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:19 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: auto BCC'ing all messages
>
> Why do you consider it dangerous?  This is company hardware, company
> software and when your hired it's made clear to not use this for personal
> use.  I don't believe there are any legal or ethical problems with reading
> anyone's e-mail if it originates on my server.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Patrick Scribner, MCSE
> DBA
> Westwood College
> 303-464-2381
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: auto BCC'ing all messages
>
>
> This is a dangerous area of potential liability.
> I would not comply without a written request from HR.
> It would be good to set up a specific policy for future requests like
this.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:02 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: auto BCC'ing all messages
>
>
> Has anyone had a request to automatically BCC all messages being sent out
of
> a mailbox also be sent to another user?  for example
>
> Joe smith is suspected of wrongdoing.  His boss Bob doesn't know for sure.
> So Bob requests that all e-mail's Joe sends also be sent to him.
>
> Is this possible?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Patrick Scribner, MCSE
> DBA
> Westwood College
> 303-464-2381
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
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RE: auto BCC'ing all messages

2003-09-04 Thread Martin Blackstone 
I think that point is that it isn't for you to make that decision. Getting
it in writing from HR takes the potential for issues off of you. 

As an example where I work if there is a request by a manager or another
employee to read ones email, it must be signed off on by the CEO and then
HR. I made that policy as like I said, it isn't mine or a managers decision
on who's email gets read. There needs to be a paper trail.

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: auto BCC'ing all messages

Why do you consider it dangerous?  This is company hardware, company
software and when your hired it's made clear to not use this for personal
use.  I don't believe there are any legal or ethical problems with reading
anyone's e-mail if it originates on my server.

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-464-2381
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  


-Original Message-
From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: auto BCC'ing all messages


This is a dangerous area of potential liability.
I would not comply without a written request from HR.
It would be good to set up a specific policy for future requests like this.

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: auto BCC'ing all messages


Has anyone had a request to automatically BCC all messages being sent out of
a mailbox also be sent to another user?  for example

Joe smith is suspected of wrongdoing.  His boss Bob doesn't know for sure.
So Bob requests that all e-mail's Joe sends also be sent to him.

Is this possible?

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-464-2381
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

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RE: auto BCC'ing all messages

2003-09-04 Thread Patrick Scribner 
Why do you consider it dangerous?  This is company hardware, company software and when 
your hired it's made clear to not use this for personal use.  I don't believe there 
are any legal or ethical problems with reading anyone's e-mail if it originates on my 
server.

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-464-2381
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  


-Original Message-
From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: auto BCC'ing all messages


This is a dangerous area of potential liability.
I would not comply without a written request from HR.
It would be good to set up a specific policy for future requests like this.

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: auto BCC'ing all messages


Has anyone had a request to automatically BCC all messages being sent out of a mailbox 
also be sent to another user?  for example

Joe smith is suspected of wrongdoing.  His boss Bob doesn't know for sure.  So Bob 
requests that all e-mail's Joe sends also be sent to him.

Is this possible?

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-464-2381
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

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RE: Routing Goups query

2003-09-04 Thread Chris Scharff 
All Exchange servers are a member of a routing group. With only one
server you only have 1 routing group, so the server directly
communicates with all other servers in the routing group (e.g. itself).

-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:59 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Postmaster question
Subject: Routing Goups query

I am having an issue with a fresh Ex2K install.
Somehow the system is using routing groups under the first admin group.
I do not want to use routing groups.
I only have one sever.

Where do I make the change to lose the routing groups option?

If I have to reinstall, so be it.  But I would rather not.


Thanks ahead of time.


John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 7:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Postmaster question


On this same issue, and out of curiosity, what are your general policies
about reading the NDR's attachments to determine troubleshooting steps?

Thank you,
Mitchell D. Lawrence
** (Pick Two)**

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Postmaster question

Go to Servers-> your server -> Protocols -> SMTP -> Default SMTP server.
Right click and select properties. Then go to the Messages tab. In the
box that says "Send copies of Non-Delivery Receipts" put in the address
you wish

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry J.
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Postmaster question


Silly question but I cannot find what I am looking for. I have
postmaster set up to goto my mailbox but I am not getting anything to
it. I even send a mail to a known bad address and I never get anything
to postmaster. Where in exchange 2k do I find how to turn this on if its
not on by default. I can send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
get it fine but not getting any NDR's or the like.

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Routing Goups query

2003-09-04 Thread John Parker 
I am having an issue with a fresh Ex2K install.
Somehow the system is using routing groups under the first admin group.
I do not want to use routing groups.
I only have one sever.

Where do I make the change to lose the routing groups option?

If I have to reinstall, so be it.  But I would rather not.


Thanks ahead of time.


John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

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---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 7:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Postmaster question


On this same issue, and out of curiosity, what are your general policies
about reading the NDR's attachments to determine troubleshooting steps?

Thank you,
Mitchell D. Lawrence
** (Pick Two)**

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Postmaster question

Go to Servers-> your server -> Protocols -> SMTP -> Default SMTP server.
Right click and select properties. Then go to the Messages tab. In the
box that says "Send copies of Non-Delivery Receipts" put in the address
you wish

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry J.
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Postmaster question


Silly question but I cannot find what I am looking for. I have
postmaster set up to goto my mailbox but I am not getting anything to
it. I even send a mail to a known bad address and I never get anything
to postmaster. Where in exchange 2k do I find how to turn this on if its
not on by default. I can send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
get it fine but not getting any NDR's or the like.

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RE: Postmaster question

2003-09-04 Thread Christopher Hummert 
The vast majority of mine happen to be address mistakes. So I skim them.
If I find anything that gets my attention then I investigate.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lawrence,
Mitchell
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 5:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Postmaster question


On this same issue, and out of curiosity, what are your general policies
about reading the NDR's attachments to determine troubleshooting steps?

Thank you,
Mitchell D. Lawrence
** (Pick Two)**

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Postmaster question

Go to Servers-> your server -> Protocols -> SMTP -> Default SMTP server.
Right click and select properties. Then go to the Messages tab. In the
box that says "Send copies of Non-Delivery Receipts" put in the address
you wish

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry J.
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Postmaster question


Silly question but I cannot find what I am looking for. I have
postmaster set up to goto my mailbox but I am not getting anything to
it. I even send a mail to a known bad address and I never get anything
to postmaster. Where in exchange 2k do I find how to turn this on if its
not on by default. I can send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
get it fine but not getting any NDR's or the like.

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RE: Need best solution for two server environment

2003-09-04 Thread Tom Meunier 
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/exchange2000/maintain/optimize/e2kfront.asp

"Note: User mailboxes cannot be stored on the front-end server."

> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Megginson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:33 PM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: Need best solution for two server environment
> Subject: Need best solution for two server environment
> 
> 
> I have two E2K EE servers. Both contain mailboxes. I want one to be a
> front-end server for both. Is this doable?
> 
> Chris

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RE: Postmaster question

2003-09-04 Thread Lawrence, Mitchell 
On this same issue, and out of curiosity, what are your general policies
about reading the NDR's attachments to determine troubleshooting steps?

Thank you,
Mitchell D. Lawrence
** (Pick Two)**

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Postmaster question

Go to Servers-> your server -> Protocols -> SMTP -> Default SMTP server.
Right click and select properties. Then go to the Messages tab. In the
box that says "Send copies of Non-Delivery Receipts" put in the address
you wish

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry J.
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Postmaster question


Silly question but I cannot find what I am looking for. I have
postmaster set up to goto my mailbox but I am not getting anything to
it. I even send a mail to a known bad address and I never get anything
to postmaster. Where in exchange 2k do I find how to turn this on if its
not on by default. I can send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
get it fine but not getting any NDR's or the like.

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RE: Mass Mailings

2003-09-04 Thread Tom Meunier 
I use Listserv also, and I'm very happy with the product. The support is
simply excellent, also.

How much is outsourcing costing you?  If money's tight and you want a
product that's got a decent installed base, look at Majordomo or Mailman
for the *n?x platforms.

http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/  
http://www.list.org/
 

> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Posted At: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:12 AM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: Mass Mailings
> Subject: RE: Mass Mailings
> 
> 
> Did look at Lsoft but it is too pricey for my lot!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Wehner, Paul (wehnerpl) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 03 September 2003 19:13
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Mass Mailings
> 
> 
> I second the LSoft recomendation. 
> Univ. of Cinci uses it and it's amazingly fast. 
> Like 10K messages delivered in 60 minutes. 
> We have webshield also installed on the box and god protect 
> me, but it's
> all running fine-:)  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Mass Mailings
> 
> 
> ListServ from LSOFT.COM is a good product.  You set it up on it's own
> machine and subdomain  (lists.Sanantonio.gov) and let it chug.
> 
> One of the BETTER qualities of this product is that you can tune it so
> that a domain only gets one message for the number of people 
> subscribed,
> rather than one message per recipient.  (i.e. twenty users 
> are listed at
> BELLSOUTH.NET.. Only one message gets sent to BELLSOUTH.NET)  You can
> also chunk the traffic so that you don't flood out your ISP.
> 
> John Matteson
> Geac Corporate ISS
> (404) 239 - 2981
> Atlanta, Georgia, USA.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:46 AM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: Mass Mailings
> Subject: Mass Mailings
> 
> 
> Hello All-
> 
>   We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to
> send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly
> newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will
> increase as required.  My question is has anyone received similar
> requests and how were they handled?  The division head assures me that
> this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request
> to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this
> project and want to bring it in-house to save money.  I believe in the
> long run this will cause more problems than the savings will 
> add up to,
> any suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Chris
> 

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RE: Appointments not Showing in Outlook

2003-09-04 Thread Gonzalez, Alex 
I thought about the Blackberry too but my Blackberry is accurate and so is OWA but not 
Outlook.  Also my BES server is on a different server than the Exchange box that I am 
on.  We also have some people that don't have Blackberry's that are experiencing the 
issues as well.  Root cause is very hard to determine right now.

Thanks,
 
Alex 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Megginson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Don't be scared - I'm experiencing something like this too. I have users
whose appointments seem to be disappearing as well. It started right after
I moved their mailboxes from their old Exch55 server to their new Exch2K
server. It seems to be limited to appointments created before the move. I
have not checked their mailboxes in OWA so maybe they're there after all.
I think my problem may have been related to Blackberry (actually the
version of CDO.DLL on th eBES server). Not sure, though, still evaluating
this.

Chris

> Well if it's just yours. Then maybe export to a pst using exmerge and delete
> and recreate your mailbox .
> 
> From: "Gonzalez, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: Appointments not Showing in Outlook
> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:33:19 -0400
> 
> All online no OST. I tried the new profile thing on a different box as well
> with no luck.  This is really scaring me that no one else has ever seen this
> before.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Alex
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:06 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Ho wis your Outlook configured to run. If in Offline mode maybe your OST is
> wrecked. Try going to another machine and configure a proflie and see if it
> follows. Also grant some one permissions to your calendar and see how they
> see it.
> 
> 
> From: "Gonzalez, Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: Appointments not Showing in Outlook
> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:24:13 -0400
> 
> Andrew maybe I didn't explain it clear enough in the original message.  I
> can see the appointments if I look in OWA or in my Blackberry but not if I
> look in Outlook.  It has happened to me and to others as well.  I know about
> the M drive but I don't think it pertains to this.  This is different
> because the meetings are still viewable through OWA and Blackberry.  I have
> checked all the views and I have used all the switches I can think of with
> no luck.
> 
> Alex
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:19 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Often it starts off by looking weird. Then gets worse.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Andrey Fyodorov
> Systems Engineer
> Messaging and Collaboration
> Spherion
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:33 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Appointments not Showing in Outlook
> 
> If by weird you mean wrecked, then yes you are correct.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 2:33 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Appointments not Showing in Outlook
> 
> Scanning M: drive for viruses or backing it up may cause weird things to
> happen. Just a thought.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Andrey Fyodorov
> Systems Engineer
> Messaging and Collaboration
> Spherion
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 2:59 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Appointments not Showing in Outlook
> 
> I tried that one and it didn't work either.  It doesn't make sense that it
> wouldn't be affecting OWA.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 2:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Try Outlook /cleanviews against mailboxes that are having problem.  You
> may have a few mailboxes that have corrupted views which may have to be
> reset in order to view from Outlook again.
> 
> Brian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 1:10 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Appointments not Showing in Outlook
> 
> 
> It's only happening to a few users but I am unfortunately one of them.
> I have looked at the views and they are set properly.  This is one of
> the weirdest things I have ever seen.  I have also tried to recreate my
> profile some where else and that doesn't seem to help.  Any new items
> still show in my calendar but my older items don't.
> 
>-Original Message-
> From: Mark Nold [mailto:[EMAI

RE: Mass Mailings

2003-09-04 Thread Rob Hackney 
Did look at Lsoft but it is too pricey for my lot!

-Original Message-
From: Wehner, Paul (wehnerpl) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 03 September 2003 19:13
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mass Mailings


I second the LSoft recomendation. 
Univ. of Cinci uses it and it's amazingly fast. 
Like 10K messages delivered in 60 minutes. 
We have webshield also installed on the box and god protect me, but it's
all running fine-:)  


-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mass Mailings


ListServ from LSOFT.COM is a good product.  You set it up on it's own
machine and subdomain  (lists.Sanantonio.gov) and let it chug.

One of the BETTER qualities of this product is that you can tune it so
that a domain only gets one message for the number of people subscribed,
rather than one message per recipient.  (i.e. twenty users are listed at
BELLSOUTH.NET.. Only one message gets sent to BELLSOUTH.NET)  You can
also chunk the traffic so that you don't flood out your ISP.

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.



-Original Message-
From: Chris Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:46 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Mass Mailings
Subject: Mass Mailings


Hello All-

We currently have a division that is requesting to be able to
send mass mails through our server to opt-in recipients of a monthly
newsletter, this would be upwards of 70,000 pieces per month and will
increase as required.  My question is has anyone received similar
requests and how were they handled?  The division head assures me that
this list will be maintained and kept up to date and users who request
to be removed from the list will be, they currently outsource this
project and want to bring it in-house to save money.  I believe in the
long run this will cause more problems than the savings will add up to,
any suggestions would be appreciated.

TIA

Chris

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