SMTP Size Restriction on Per User Basis

2003-12-09 Thread Exchange List
Dear List,

Setup:

SMTP Gateway:
Exchange 2000:

I have a 2 MB smtp size restriction on gateway, one on my user wants to send 5 MB of 
file on 10th of every month. I don't want to increase the size on smtp gateway as it 
could allow all internet users to throw in mails of 5 MB. Is there a way to allow 
certain users to send 5MB size mails as outbound only.

I hope my question is clear to all.

regards,
Irf.

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RE: OWA and SMTP

2003-12-09 Thread Ben Winzenz
You are going down a road that you do not want to go down.  You
understand that in order to be a FE server, you have to be running
Exchange Enterprise edition, right? (ok, if you run Exchange 2003, you
can run Standard edition)  The only ports you would have to open up from
the outside to the FE server would be 25, 80 and/or 443.  However, the
problem is that you must open up additional ports betweeen the FE server
and the BE server, and between the FE server and the DC/GC's.  Opening
these ports makes it not worth it to place it in the DMZ.  Now, if you
just want to place a SMTP Relay server (don't mistake that term for Open
relay) in the DMZ, that is much safer to do.

So, what is your end goal here?  FE/BE setup, or SMTP Relay server? 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, December 08, 2003 8:23 PM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: OWA and SMTP


I am setting up a Windows 2000 member server in DMZ, which will be our
SMTP and OWA front end server. Which ports do I need to open to make
this work.
Is there a KB article that you guy could point me to?

Thanks
Davinder




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RE: SMTP Size Restriction on Per User Basis

2003-12-09 Thread Martin Blackstone
I don't know of any easy way to do that. But I have to admit, 2 MB is pretty
tight. With the encoding overhead, that only allows for about a 1.5 MB file.


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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 2:33 AM
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Subject: SMTP Size Restriction on Per User Basis

Dear List,

Setup:

SMTP Gateway:
Exchange 2000:

I have a 2 MB smtp size restriction on gateway, one on my user wants to send
5 MB of file on 10th of every month. I don't want to increase the size on
smtp gateway as it could allow all internet users to throw in mails of 5 MB.
Is there a way to allow certain users to send 5MB size mails as outbound
only.

I hope my question is clear to all.

regards,
Irf.

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RE: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off

2003-12-09 Thread Eric Fretz
How so?

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 6:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off


This list has lost a little of the charm it had back a few years ago though.

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- Original Message - 
From: Boyd, Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:00 PM
Subject: RE: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off


 Tener was genius!  Although I think Martin Blackstone may disagree.

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:04 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off

 Tener, Avi Smith-Rapaport and Mark Hanji do no longer post here nor 
 have I seen anything from them in the last 6 months.


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 - Original Message -
 From: Boyd, Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 1:47 PM
 Subject: RE: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off


  Sorry Eric, when you have spent over 3 years on this list, different 
  aliases, you will appreciate that some of the new contributors' 
  posts
can
 be
  a little irritating.
 
  Talking of irritating contributors what happened to Richard Tenner?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 1:40 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off
 
  It was meant to be a joke, a funny, a juxaposition of disprate ideas
used
 to
  make spontaneous contractions of the lower abdominal muscles.  I was 
  suggesting that we (the list) would be glad to offer our support 
  during
 his
  transition, for a nominal fee.  This is of course absurd because
offering
  our support for free is what we do anyways.
 
  You really should get out more often!
 
  Eric Fretz
 
  L-3 Communications
  ComCept Division
  2800 Discovery Blvd.
  Rockwall, TX 75032
  tel:   972.772.7501
  fax:  972.772.7510
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Boyd, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:37 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off
 
 
  You mean as opposed to PSS?  What benefits could you provide that
 Microsoft
  can not?  Will you offer full support for less than $245, and if all
fails
  send a team of engineers on site?
 
  Or are you suggesting this is not a relevant discussion item for 
  this
 list?
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 1:18 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off
 
  I'm sure that this discussion list would be glad to provide support 
  for
 you
  during you transition, for a nominal fee, of course!
 
  ;-)
 
  Eric
 
  Eric Fretz
 
  L-3 Communications
  ComCept Division
  2800 Discovery Blvd.
  Rockwall, TX 75032
  tel:   972.772.7501
  fax:  972.772.7510
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Boyd, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:17 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off
 
 
  I am a fellow Exchange 5.5 customer who is thinking about migrating 
  to
 2000
  or 2003 next year.  The question is related to Microsoft ceasing 
  support
 of
  5.5 at the end of next year, and how others are managing their
migrations
  because of it.
 
  We have a native 2000 AD network with a half dozen or so 5.5 
  servers.
The
  databases are stored on the SAN, we have 2000 user accounts, OWA and
 Public
  folders are fully utilized.
 
  The issue is we are time constrained with a more important project 
  that
 does
  not end until August next year (I'm sure that sounds familiar to 
  many of you).  Currently that project is all encompassing and we do 
  not plan to invest time in the mail migration until the other 
  project is fully completed.
 
  Ideally I would have the Exchange migration already completed before 
  the time we are currently planning to start it.  My concern is we 
  need a
 decent
  cushion of time before 5.5 support ends, incase of interoperability 
  problems, I envisage a mixed 5.5 2k/2k3 migration.
 
  It may be that in a mixed 5.5 2k/2k3 environment MS would provide
support
  while we fully move to a support Exchange, even after the PSS cut 
  off
 time.
  Any thoughts would be 

SMTP Connectors

2003-12-09 Thread Wohlgemuth, Mike
Platform: Win2K/sp4 Exchange 2K/sp3 with 4 Vvirtual SMTP Servers that
currently send email to the internet via DNS ...

Challenge: I want to route all email sent to one specific email address
([EMAIL PROTECTED] ) through my spam server (spam.server.org) ...

It looks like I will do this with an SMTP connector that uses my spam
server (spam.server.org)  as a smart host and the email address
([EMAIL PROTECTED] ) as my address space ... 

Does this sound correct?

Do I also need to set up my Virtual SMTP Servers as local bridgehead
servers?

Thanks in advance ...

Mike


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RE: OWA and SMTP

2003-12-09 Thread Eric Fretz
80(HTTP), 443(SSL) and a few others.

Check out kb# 280132

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA and SMTP


I am setting up a Windows 2000 member server in DMZ, which will be our SMTP
and OWA front end server. Which ports do I need to open to make this work.
Is there a KB article that you guy could point me to?

Thanks
Davinder




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RE: Discussions or Newsgroups

2003-12-09 Thread Eric Fretz
If e-mail discussions is what you want, check out http://www.lsoft.com/

Otherwise, get a cheap old desktop computer, install Linux and run lyris or
mailman on it.  

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 6:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Discussions or Newsgroups


What's the best way to host Discussions or newsgroup type features in
Exchange 2000?

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RE: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off

2003-12-09 Thread Ben Winzenz
You had to be here... 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:53 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off
Subject: RE: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off


How so?

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 6:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off


This list has lost a little of the charm it had back a few years ago
though.

--
Martin Tuip
MVP Exchange
Exchange 2000 List owner
www.exchange-mail.org
www.sharepointserver.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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- Original Message - 
From: Boyd, Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:00 PM
Subject: RE: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off


 Tener was genius!  Although I think Martin Blackstone may disagree.

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:04 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off

 Tener, Avi Smith-Rapaport and Mark Hanji do no longer post here nor 
 have I seen anything from them in the last 6 months.


 --
 Martin Tuip
 MVP Exchange
 Exchange 2000 List owner
 www.exchange-mail.org
 www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 --

 - Original Message -
 From: Boyd, Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 1:47 PM
 Subject: RE: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off


  Sorry Eric, when you have spent over 3 years on this list, different

  aliases, you will appreciate that some of the new contributors' 
  posts
can
 be
  a little irritating.
 
  Talking of irritating contributors what happened to Richard Tenner?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 1:40 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off
 
  It was meant to be a joke, a funny, a juxaposition of disprate ideas
used
 to
  make spontaneous contractions of the lower abdominal muscles.  I was

  suggesting that we (the list) would be glad to offer our support 
  during
 his
  transition, for a nominal fee.  This is of course absurd because
offering
  our support for free is what we do anyways.
 
  You really should get out more often!
 
  Eric Fretz
 
  L-3 Communications
  ComCept Division
  2800 Discovery Blvd.
  Rockwall, TX 75032
  tel:   972.772.7501
  fax:  972.772.7510
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Boyd, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:37 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off
 
 
  You mean as opposed to PSS?  What benefits could you provide that
 Microsoft
  can not?  Will you offer full support for less than $245, and if all
fails
  send a team of engineers on site?
 
  Or are you suggesting this is not a relevant discussion item for 
  this
 list?
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 1:18 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off
 
  I'm sure that this discussion list would be glad to provide support 
  for
 you
  during you transition, for a nominal fee, of course!
 
  ;-)
 
  Eric
 
  Eric Fretz
 
  L-3 Communications
  ComCept Division
  2800 Discovery Blvd.
  Rockwall, TX 75032
  tel:   972.772.7501
  fax:  972.772.7510
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Boyd, Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:17 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Migrating Exchange 5.5 with PSS cut off
 
 
  I am a fellow Exchange 5.5 customer who is thinking about migrating 
  to
 2000
  or 2003 next year.  The question is related to Microsoft ceasing 
  support
 of
  5.5 at the end of next year, and how others are managing their
migrations
  because of it.
 
  We have a native 2000 AD network with a half dozen or so 5.5 
  servers.
The
  databases are stored on the SAN, we have 2000 user accounts, OWA and
 Public
  folders are fully utilized.
 
  The issue is we are time constrained with a more important project 
  that
 does
  not end until August next year (I'm sure that sounds familiar to 
  many of you).  Currently that project is all encompassing and we do 
  not plan to invest time in the mail migration until the other 
  project is fully completed.
 
  Ideally I would have the Exchange migration already completed before

  the time we are currently planning to start 

RE: OWA and SMTP

2003-12-09 Thread Martin Blackstone
Its much more extensive than that when putting the FE in the DMZ 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 5:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

80(HTTP), 443(SSL) and a few others.

Check out kb# 280132

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA and SMTP


I am setting up a Windows 2000 member server in DMZ, which will be our SMTP
and OWA front end server. Which ports do I need to open to make this work.
Is there a KB article that you guy could point me to?

Thanks
Davinder




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RE: OWA and SMTP

2003-12-09 Thread Eric Fretz
He just asked for the ports and I pointed him to the kb on open ports.  I
agree that putting a Front End in a DMZ is no walk in the park and did not
intend to make it sound that easy.

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Its much more extensive than that when putting the FE in the DMZ 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 5:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

80(HTTP), 443(SSL) and a few others.

Check out kb# 280132

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA and SMTP


I am setting up a Windows 2000 member server in DMZ, which will be our SMTP
and OWA front end server. Which ports do I need to open to make this work.
Is there a KB article that you guy could point me to?

Thanks
Davinder




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RE: Export and Import of fields - custom attributes

2003-12-09 Thread Watkins V
I have done an export from exchange admin:
I cannot get the export file to include custom attributes though, it is
ignoring them, what needs to be done?
Thanks
Vanessa Watkins
Royal Holloway, University of London

-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 December 2003 21:07
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Export and Import of fields


Write a batch file with two Export passes then Type one file and append it
() to the other.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov, Exchange MVP
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Hatley, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Export and Import of fields

The help file shows 

ExportObject=[Mailbox, Remote (custom recipients), DL, Recipients (all
recipients), All (all object types)] (default=Mailbox)

I need to get Mailbox and DL in one automated export.

-Original Message-
From: Hatley, Ken 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 2:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Export and Import of fields

I don't think that will work, obj class is where you differentiate DL's and
Mailboxes.  If you do not specify you only get mailboxes.  I think you have
to do it with the /o and options file, I just don't know the proper syntax.

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 2:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Export and Import of fields

headers.exe.

Steven
---
Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Hatley, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Export and Import of fields


I have a question related to this as well. I am trying to set up admin /e
export of all DL's and Mailboxes in an Exchange 5.5 org and looking at the
Options file, I don't understand the syntax for getting what I need can
anyone help me out.  I see you can grab one or the other or all but is there
a way to just get what I need?

-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 2:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Export and Import of fields

Yes there is such a way. It is in the Exchange 5.5 Admin program.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov, Exchange MVP
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


-Original Message-
From: Morgan, Joshua (Greenville) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Export and Import of fields

Is there a way to export (then Import once modified) a CSV file the Fields
from within Exchange including Phone Address and such...


I am using Exchange 5.5 SP4






Joshua Morgan
Senior Network Administrator
AIMCO
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RE: Export and Import of fields - custom attributes

2003-12-09 Thread Wood, Harriet [CCS]
Are you putting them in the header separately, eg Custom Attribute 1,Custom
Attribute 2 ...?

Harriet

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From: Watkins V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 December 2003 14:20
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I have done an export from exchange admin:
I cannot get the export file to include custom attributes though, it is
ignoring them, what needs to be done? Thanks Vanessa Watkins Royal Holloway,
University of London

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From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 December 2003 21:07
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Export and Import of fields


Write a batch file with two Export passes then Type one file and append it
() to the other.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov, Exchange MVP
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


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From: Hatley, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:00 PM
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The help file shows 

ExportObject=[Mailbox, Remote (custom recipients), DL, Recipients (all
recipients), All (all object types)] (default=Mailbox)

I need to get Mailbox and DL in one automated export.

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From: Hatley, Ken 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 2:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Export and Import of fields

I don't think that will work, obj class is where you differentiate DL's and
Mailboxes.  If you do not specify you only get mailboxes.  I think you have
to do it with the /o and options file, I just don't know the proper syntax.

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headers.exe.

Steven
---
Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

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Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:52 PM
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I have a question related to this as well. I am trying to set up admin /e
export of all DL's and Mailboxes in an Exchange 5.5 org and looking at the
Options file, I don't understand the syntax for getting what I need can
anyone help me out.  I see you can grab one or the other or all but is there
a way to just get what I need?

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Yes there is such a way. It is in the Exchange 5.5 Admin program.

Sincerely,

Andrey Fyodorov, Exchange MVP
Systems Engineer
Messaging and Collaboration
Spherion


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Subject: Export and Import of fields

Is there a way to export (then Import once modified) a CSV file the Fields
from within Exchange including Phone Address and such...


I am using Exchange 5.5 SP4






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RE: OWA and SMTP

2003-12-09 Thread Ben Winzenz
What Martin is saying is that those are not the only ports you have to
open.  There are MANY more that are required to be opened to allow for
communication between the FE server and the BE server, and communication
betweent the FE server and the DC/GC servers.  While the article seems
to point out the correct ports, the post was misleading in saying that
only 80/443 and a few others.  Those few other ports (esp. 135, and
the LDAP ports) are something I would not especially want opened on my
firewall. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:09 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


He just asked for the ports and I pointed him to the kb on open ports.
I agree that putting a Front End in a DMZ is no walk in the park and did
not intend to make it sound that easy.

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Its much more extensive than that when putting the FE in the DMZ 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 5:55 AM
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Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

80(HTTP), 443(SSL) and a few others.

Check out kb# 280132

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



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From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA and SMTP


I am setting up a Windows 2000 member server in DMZ, which will be our
SMTP
and OWA front end server. Which ports do I need to open to make this
work.
Is there a KB article that you guy could point me to?

Thanks
Davinder




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RE: OWA and SMTP

2003-12-09 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Have FE and BE on separate VLANs and set up access lists on the routers
allowing just the back-end VLAN to only accept traffic from the
front-end VLAN if it is coming from the FE server, and only the
specified ports.

How does that sound?


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From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

What Martin is saying is that those are not the only ports you have to
open.  There are MANY more that are required to be opened to allow for
communication between the FE server and the BE server, and communication
betweent the FE server and the DC/GC servers.  While the article seems
to point out the correct ports, the post was misleading in saying that
only 80/443 and a few others.  Those few other ports (esp. 135, and
the LDAP ports) are something I would not especially want opened on my
firewall. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:09 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


He just asked for the ports and I pointed him to the kb on open ports.
I agree that putting a Front End in a DMZ is no walk in the park and did
not intend to make it sound that easy.

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Its much more extensive than that when putting the FE in the DMZ 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 5:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

80(HTTP), 443(SSL) and a few others.

Check out kb# 280132

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



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From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA and SMTP


I am setting up a Windows 2000 member server in DMZ, which will be our
SMTP
and OWA front end server. Which ports do I need to open to make this
work.
Is there a KB article that you guy could point me to?

Thanks
Davinder




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RE: OWA and SMTP

2003-12-09 Thread Eric Fretz
He did not indicate which ports he needed to have open and on which side the
needed to be open to.

For example, 80 and 443 need to be open to the internet to allow external
host to use OWA.  The others need to be open between the DMZ and internal
lan to allow the FE server to do GC looksups, etc  

Sorry for the confusion.

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



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From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


What Martin is saying is that those are not the only ports you have to open.
There are MANY more that are required to be opened to allow for
communication between the FE server and the BE server, and communication
betweent the FE server and the DC/GC servers.  While the article seems to
point out the correct ports, the post was misleading in saying that only
80/443 and a few others.  Those few other ports (esp. 135, and the LDAP
ports) are something I would not especially want opened on my firewall. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:09 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


He just asked for the ports and I pointed him to the kb on open ports. I
agree that putting a Front End in a DMZ is no walk in the park and did not
intend to make it sound that easy.

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Its much more extensive than that when putting the FE in the DMZ 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 5:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

80(HTTP), 443(SSL) and a few others.

Check out kb# 280132

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA and SMTP


I am setting up a Windows 2000 member server in DMZ, which will be our SMTP
and OWA front end server. Which ports do I need to open to make this work.
Is there a KB article that you guy could point me to?

Thanks
Davinder




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RE: OWA and SMTP

2003-12-09 Thread Ben Winzenz
Why go through the hassle?  It is much easier (and just as secure) to
simply put the FE server inside your network, open up port 443 and 25 to
the FE server (I would not open port 80 for OWA), and that is all you
should have to do.  If you want to be even more secure, use something
like ISA server to publish the FE OWA server.  There are some servers
that belong on a DMZ.  A FE OWA server is not one of them.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:36 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Have FE and BE on separate VLANs and set up access lists on the routers
allowing just the back-end VLAN to only accept traffic from the
front-end VLAN if it is coming from the FE server, and only the
specified ports.

How does that sound?


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

What Martin is saying is that those are not the only ports you have to
open.  There are MANY more that are required to be opened to allow for
communication between the FE server and the BE server, and communication
betweent the FE server and the DC/GC servers.  While the article seems
to point out the correct ports, the post was misleading in saying that
only 80/443 and a few others.  Those few other ports (esp. 135, and
the LDAP ports) are something I would not especially want opened on my
firewall. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:09 AM Posted To: Exchange
(Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


He just asked for the ports and I pointed him to the kb on open ports.
I agree that putting a Front End in a DMZ is no walk in the park and did
not intend to make it sound that easy.

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Its much more extensive than that when putting the FE in the DMZ 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 5:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

80(HTTP), 443(SSL) and a few others.

Check out kb# 280132

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA and SMTP


I am setting up a Windows 2000 member server in DMZ, which will be our
SMTP
and OWA front end server. Which ports do I need to open to make this
work.
Is there a KB article that you guy could point me to?

Thanks
Davinder




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RE: OWA and SMTP

2003-12-09 Thread Eric Fretz
I totally agree.  It is much easier to do extensive logging (and packet
filtering, for that matter) with a good layered firewall, as opposed to
locking down IIS (and Windows) to accept connections in an unsecured zone.  

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
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fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Why go through the hassle?  It is much easier (and just as secure) to simply
put the FE server inside your network, open up port 443 and 25 to the FE
server (I would not open port 80 for OWA), and that is all you should have
to do.  If you want to be even more secure, use something like ISA server to
publish the FE OWA server.  There are some servers that belong on a DMZ.
A FE OWA server is not one of them.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:36 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Have FE and BE on separate VLANs and set up access lists on the routers
allowing just the back-end VLAN to only accept traffic from the front-end
VLAN if it is coming from the FE server, and only the specified ports.

How does that sound?


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

What Martin is saying is that those are not the only ports you have to open.
There are MANY more that are required to be opened to allow for
communication between the FE server and the BE server, and communication
betweent the FE server and the DC/GC servers.  While the article seems to
point out the correct ports, the post was misleading in saying that only
80/443 and a few others.  Those few other ports (esp. 135, and the LDAP
ports) are something I would not especially want opened on my firewall. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:09 AM Posted To: Exchange
(Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


He just asked for the ports and I pointed him to the kb on open ports. I
agree that putting a Front End in a DMZ is no walk in the park and did not
intend to make it sound that easy.

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Its much more extensive than that when putting the FE in the DMZ 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 5:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

80(HTTP), 443(SSL) and a few others.

Check out kb# 280132

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA and SMTP


I am setting up a Windows 2000 member server in DMZ, which will be our SMTP
and OWA front end server. Which ports do I need to open to make this work.
Is there a KB article that you guy could point me to?

Thanks
Davinder




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RE: OWA and SMTP

2003-12-09 Thread Davinder Gupta
Thanks everybody for replying. The plan is exactly to open 443 from outside
and required ports for GC/LDAP and required ports for BE server. The DMZ is
separate physical network (VLAN) and Firewall is going to allow these
specific kind of traffic only to required specific servers on inside
network. 

You guys seem very concerned with that which I respectfully don't
understand. Also this is exactly what we did in exchange 5.5, right??

Or another idea might be to create an IPSec tunnel between FE server and DCs
and limit the number of ports that way, ideas?


Thanks
Davinder



 -Original Message-
From:   Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: OWA and SMTP

I totally agree.  It is much easier to do extensive logging (and packet
filtering, for that matter) with a good layered firewall, as opposed to
locking down IIS (and Windows) to accept connections in an unsecured zone.  

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Why go through the hassle?  It is much easier (and just as secure) to simply
put the FE server inside your network, open up port 443 and 25 to the FE
server (I would not open port 80 for OWA), and that is all you should have
to do.  If you want to be even more secure, use something like ISA server to
publish the FE OWA server.  There are some servers that belong on a DMZ.
A FE OWA server is not one of them.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:36 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Have FE and BE on separate VLANs and set up access lists on the routers
allowing just the back-end VLAN to only accept traffic from the front-end
VLAN if it is coming from the FE server, and only the specified ports.

How does that sound?


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

What Martin is saying is that those are not the only ports you have to open.
There are MANY more that are required to be opened to allow for
communication between the FE server and the BE server, and communication
betweent the FE server and the DC/GC servers.  While the article seems to
point out the correct ports, the post was misleading in saying that only
80/443 and a few others.  Those few other ports (esp. 135, and the LDAP
ports) are something I would not especially want opened on my firewall. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:09 AM Posted To: Exchange
(Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


He just asked for the ports and I pointed him to the kb on open ports. I
agree that putting a Front End in a DMZ is no walk in the park and did not
intend to make it sound that easy.

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Its much more extensive than that when putting the FE in the DMZ 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 5:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

80(HTTP), 443(SSL) and a few others.

Check out kb# 280132

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA and SMTP


I am setting up a Windows 2000 member server in DMZ, which will be our SMTP
and OWA front end server. Which ports do I need to open to make this work.
Is there a KB article that you guy could point me to?

Thanks
Davinder




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RE: OWA and SMTP

2003-12-09 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Isn't Exchange 2003 more IPSec-friendly?

But if you work on it carefully, you should be able to get Exchange 2000
going with IPSec too.



-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

Thanks everybody for replying. The plan is exactly to open 443 from
outside
and required ports for GC/LDAP and required ports for BE server. The DMZ
is
separate physical network (VLAN) and Firewall is going to allow these
specific kind of traffic only to required specific servers on inside
network. 

You guys seem very concerned with that which I respectfully don't
understand. Also this is exactly what we did in exchange 5.5, right??

Or another idea might be to create an IPSec tunnel between FE server and
DCs
and limit the number of ports that way, ideas?


Thanks
Davinder



 -Original Message-
From:   Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: OWA and SMTP

I totally agree.  It is much easier to do extensive logging (and packet
filtering, for that matter) with a good layered firewall, as opposed to
locking down IIS (and Windows) to accept connections in an unsecured
zone.  

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Why go through the hassle?  It is much easier (and just as secure) to
simply
put the FE server inside your network, open up port 443 and 25 to the FE
server (I would not open port 80 for OWA), and that is all you should
have
to do.  If you want to be even more secure, use something like ISA
server to
publish the FE OWA server.  There are some servers that belong on a
DMZ.
A FE OWA server is not one of them.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:36 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Have FE and BE on separate VLANs and set up access lists on the routers
allowing just the back-end VLAN to only accept traffic from the
front-end
VLAN if it is coming from the FE server, and only the specified ports.

How does that sound?


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

What Martin is saying is that those are not the only ports you have to
open.
There are MANY more that are required to be opened to allow for
communication between the FE server and the BE server, and communication
betweent the FE server and the DC/GC servers.  While the article seems
to
point out the correct ports, the post was misleading in saying that only
80/443 and a few others.  Those few other ports (esp. 135, and the
LDAP
ports) are something I would not especially want opened on my firewall. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:09 AM Posted To: Exchange
(Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


He just asked for the ports and I pointed him to the kb on open ports. I
agree that putting a Front End in a DMZ is no walk in the park and did
not
intend to make it sound that easy.

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Its much more extensive than that when putting the FE in the DMZ 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 5:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

80(HTTP), 443(SSL) and a few others.

Check out kb# 280132

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA and SMTP


I am setting up a Windows 2000 member server in DMZ, which will be our
SMTP
and OWA front end server. Which ports do I need to open to make this
work.
Is there a KB article that you guy could point me to?

Thanks
Davinder




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RE: OWA and SMTP

2003-12-09 Thread Davinder Gupta
Could you be a little more specific about the careful part?? 

 -Original Message-
From:   Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: OWA and SMTP

Isn't Exchange 2003 more IPSec-friendly?

But if you work on it carefully, you should be able to get Exchange 2000
going with IPSec too.



-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

Thanks everybody for replying. The plan is exactly to open 443 from
outside
and required ports for GC/LDAP and required ports for BE server. The DMZ
is
separate physical network (VLAN) and Firewall is going to allow these
specific kind of traffic only to required specific servers on inside
network. 

You guys seem very concerned with that which I respectfully don't
understand. Also this is exactly what we did in exchange 5.5, right??

Or another idea might be to create an IPSec tunnel between FE server and
DCs
and limit the number of ports that way, ideas?


Thanks
Davinder



 -Original Message-
From:   Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: OWA and SMTP

I totally agree.  It is much easier to do extensive logging (and packet
filtering, for that matter) with a good layered firewall, as opposed to
locking down IIS (and Windows) to accept connections in an unsecured
zone.  

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Why go through the hassle?  It is much easier (and just as secure) to
simply
put the FE server inside your network, open up port 443 and 25 to the FE
server (I would not open port 80 for OWA), and that is all you should
have
to do.  If you want to be even more secure, use something like ISA
server to
publish the FE OWA server.  There are some servers that belong on a
DMZ.
A FE OWA server is not one of them.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:36 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Have FE and BE on separate VLANs and set up access lists on the routers
allowing just the back-end VLAN to only accept traffic from the
front-end
VLAN if it is coming from the FE server, and only the specified ports.

How does that sound?


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

What Martin is saying is that those are not the only ports you have to
open.
There are MANY more that are required to be opened to allow for
communication between the FE server and the BE server, and communication
betweent the FE server and the DC/GC servers.  While the article seems
to
point out the correct ports, the post was misleading in saying that only
80/443 and a few others.  Those few other ports (esp. 135, and the
LDAP
ports) are something I would not especially want opened on my firewall. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:09 AM Posted To: Exchange
(Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


He just asked for the ports and I pointed him to the kb on open ports. I
agree that putting a Front End in a DMZ is no walk in the park and did
not
intend to make it sound that easy.

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Its much more extensive than that when putting the FE in the DMZ 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 5:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

80(HTTP), 443(SSL) and a few others.

Check out kb# 280132

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA and SMTP


I am setting up a Windows 2000 member server in DMZ, which will be our
SMTP
and OWA front end server. Which ports do I need to open to make this
work.
Is there a KB article that you guy 

RE: OWA and SMTP

2003-12-09 Thread Ben Winzenz
What I don't understand is why everyone thinks that placing their FE
server in a DMZ is a more secure/better way/whatever have you.  IMHO, it
is not.  I don't understand what you think you are going to be gaining
by placing it there other than increased headache for the setup and
troubleshooting.  Some may offer the argument that if your FE server
gets hacked, it is somewhat isolated.  Let's be honest.  With the ports
that are required to be open between the FE and BE, if someone hacks
your FE server, they can own your internal network whether the FE is in
a DMZ or not.  I'm just not convinced that there is a need to place FE
servers in the DMZ.  That, plus I seem to remember that it is now
Microsoft's suggestion to NOT place the FE server in the DMZ.  I'll see
if I can find the reference to that. 

Davinder, you are, of course, welcome to deploy this how you see fit.
It is, after all, your network, not mine.  Ultimately, if you feel it is
a better setup to place your FE server in your DMZ, then do that.  I'm
just trying to offer feedback.  As far as 5.5, that is a different
scenario altogether.  5.5 would allow you to install OWA separate from
the Exchange mailbox server.

Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:45 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Thanks everybody for replying. The plan is exactly to open 443 from
outside and required ports for GC/LDAP and required ports for BE server.
The DMZ is separate physical network (VLAN) and Firewall is going to
allow these specific kind of traffic only to required specific servers
on inside network. 

You guys seem very concerned with that which I respectfully don't
understand. Also this is exactly what we did in exchange 5.5, right??

Or another idea might be to create an IPSec tunnel between FE server and
DCs and limit the number of ports that way, ideas?


Thanks
Davinder



 -Original Message-
From:   Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: OWA and SMTP

I totally agree.  It is much easier to do extensive logging (and packet
filtering, for that matter) with a good layered firewall, as opposed to
locking down IIS (and Windows) to accept connections in an unsecured
zone.  

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Why go through the hassle?  It is much easier (and just as secure) to
simply
put the FE server inside your network, open up port 443 and 25 to the FE
server (I would not open port 80 for OWA), and that is all you should
have
to do.  If you want to be even more secure, use something like ISA
server to
publish the FE OWA server.  There are some servers that belong on a
DMZ.
A FE OWA server is not one of them.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:36 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Have FE and BE on separate VLANs and set up access lists on the routers
allowing just the back-end VLAN to only accept traffic from the
front-end
VLAN if it is coming from the FE server, and only the specified ports.

How does that sound?


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

What Martin is saying is that those are not the only ports you have to
open.
There are MANY more that are required to be opened to allow for
communication between the FE server and the BE server, and communication
betweent the FE server and the DC/GC servers.  While the article seems
to
point out the correct ports, the post was misleading in saying that only
80/443 and a few others.  Those few other ports (esp. 135, and the
LDAP
ports) are something I would not especially want opened on my firewall. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:09 AM Posted To: Exchange
(Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


He just asked for the ports and I pointed him to the kb on open ports. I
agree that putting a Front End in a DMZ is no walk in the park and did
not
intend to make it sound that easy.

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL 

RE: OWA and SMTP

2003-12-09 Thread Martin Blackstone
I couldn't have said it better myself. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Winzenz
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

What I don't understand is why everyone thinks that placing their FE server
in a DMZ is a more secure/better way/whatever have you.  IMHO, it is not.  I
don't understand what you think you are going to be gaining by placing it
there other than increased headache for the setup and troubleshooting.  Some
may offer the argument that if your FE server gets hacked, it is somewhat
isolated.  Let's be honest.  With the ports that are required to be open
between the FE and BE, if someone hacks your FE server, they can own your
internal network whether the FE is in a DMZ or not.  I'm just not convinced
that there is a need to place FE servers in the DMZ.  That, plus I seem to
remember that it is now Microsoft's suggestion to NOT place the FE server in
the DMZ.  I'll see if I can find the reference to that. 

Davinder, you are, of course, welcome to deploy this how you see fit.
It is, after all, your network, not mine.  Ultimately, if you feel it is a
better setup to place your FE server in your DMZ, then do that.  I'm just
trying to offer feedback.  As far as 5.5, that is a different scenario
altogether.  5.5 would allow you to install OWA separate from the Exchange
mailbox server.

Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday,
December 09, 2003 10:45 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Thanks everybody for replying. The plan is exactly to open 443 from
outside and required ports for GC/LDAP and required ports for BE server.
The DMZ is separate physical network (VLAN) and Firewall is going to
allow these specific kind of traffic only to required specific servers
on inside network. 

You guys seem very concerned with that which I respectfully don't
understand. Also this is exactly what we did in exchange 5.5, right??

Or another idea might be to create an IPSec tunnel between FE server and
DCs and limit the number of ports that way, ideas?


Thanks
Davinder



 -Original Message-
From:   Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: OWA and SMTP

I totally agree.  It is much easier to do extensive logging (and packet
filtering, for that matter) with a good layered firewall, as opposed to
locking down IIS (and Windows) to accept connections in an unsecured
zone.  

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Why go through the hassle?  It is much easier (and just as secure) to
simply
put the FE server inside your network, open up port 443 and 25 to the FE
server (I would not open port 80 for OWA), and that is all you should
have
to do.  If you want to be even more secure, use something like ISA
server to
publish the FE OWA server.  There are some servers that belong on a
DMZ.
A FE OWA server is not one of them.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:36 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Have FE and BE on separate VLANs and set up access lists on the routers
allowing just the back-end VLAN to only accept traffic from the
front-end
VLAN if it is coming from the FE server, and only the specified ports.

How does that sound?


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

What Martin is saying is that those are not the only ports you have to
open.
There are MANY more that are required to be opened to allow for
communication between the FE server and the BE server, and communication
betweent the FE server and the DC/GC servers.  While the article seems
to
point out the correct ports, the post was misleading in saying that only
80/443 and a few others.  Those few other ports (esp. 135, and the
LDAP
ports) are something I would not especially want opened on my firewall. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:09 AM Posted To: Exchange
(Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


He just asked for the ports and I pointed him to the kb on open ports. I
agree that putting a Front End in a DMZ is no walk in the park and did

removal of first exchange 2000 server

2003-12-09 Thread Ronald Mazzotta
I have had a mixed exch 2000/2003 site running for about a month.  I
have followed the Q article regarding removal of first exchange server
in a site.  Now some of my clients are having issues when accessing
their mailbox's.  outlook is set for their mailbox to point to the new
server and outlook opens but clicking inbox locks outlook.  I have tried
repairing outlook and upgrading it to 2003 but nothing fix's it.   Any
info would be appreciated.

Exchange 2003 on windows 2003 cluster.
Removed server is exchange 2000 on windows 2000 non cluster
Client outlook xp/2003


Ronald R. Mazzotta Jr.
Director of IT
Schonbraun Safris McCann Bekritsky  Co. L.L.C.
101 Eisenhower pky
Roseland NJ, 07068




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RE: OWA and SMTP

2003-12-09 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Why do Microsoft FE/BE whitepapers show FE in DMZ?

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

I couldn't have said it better myself. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Winzenz
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

What I don't understand is why everyone thinks that placing their FE
server
in a DMZ is a more secure/better way/whatever have you.  IMHO, it is
not.  I
don't understand what you think you are going to be gaining by placing
it
there other than increased headache for the setup and troubleshooting.
Some
may offer the argument that if your FE server gets hacked, it is
somewhat
isolated.  Let's be honest.  With the ports that are required to be open
between the FE and BE, if someone hacks your FE server, they can own
your
internal network whether the FE is in a DMZ or not.  I'm just not
convinced
that there is a need to place FE servers in the DMZ.  That, plus I seem
to
remember that it is now Microsoft's suggestion to NOT place the FE
server in
the DMZ.  I'll see if I can find the reference to that. 

Davinder, you are, of course, welcome to deploy this how you see fit.
It is, after all, your network, not mine.  Ultimately, if you feel it is
a
better setup to place your FE server in your DMZ, then do that.  I'm
just
trying to offer feedback.  As far as 5.5, that is a different scenario
altogether.  5.5 would allow you to install OWA separate from the
Exchange
mailbox server.

Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday,
December 09, 2003 10:45 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Thanks everybody for replying. The plan is exactly to open 443 from
outside and required ports for GC/LDAP and required ports for BE server.
The DMZ is separate physical network (VLAN) and Firewall is going to
allow these specific kind of traffic only to required specific servers
on inside network. 

You guys seem very concerned with that which I respectfully don't
understand. Also this is exactly what we did in exchange 5.5, right??

Or another idea might be to create an IPSec tunnel between FE server and
DCs and limit the number of ports that way, ideas?


Thanks
Davinder



 -Original Message-
From:   Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: OWA and SMTP

I totally agree.  It is much easier to do extensive logging (and packet
filtering, for that matter) with a good layered firewall, as opposed to
locking down IIS (and Windows) to accept connections in an unsecured
zone.  

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Why go through the hassle?  It is much easier (and just as secure) to
simply
put the FE server inside your network, open up port 443 and 25 to the FE
server (I would not open port 80 for OWA), and that is all you should
have
to do.  If you want to be even more secure, use something like ISA
server to
publish the FE OWA server.  There are some servers that belong on a
DMZ.
A FE OWA server is not one of them.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:36 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Have FE and BE on separate VLANs and set up access lists on the routers
allowing just the back-end VLAN to only accept traffic from the
front-end
VLAN if it is coming from the FE server, and only the specified ports.

How does that sound?


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

What Martin is saying is that those are not the only ports you have to
open.
There are MANY more that are required to be opened to allow for
communication between the FE server and the BE server, and communication
betweent the FE server and the DC/GC servers.  While the article seems
to
point out the correct ports, the post was misleading in saying that only
80/443 and a few others.  Those few other ports (esp. 135, and the
LDAP
ports) are something I would not especially want opened on my firewall. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:09 AM Posted 

RE: OWA and SMTP

2003-12-09 Thread Martin Blackstone
Don't they show ISA in there as well? 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov, Andrey
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

Why do Microsoft FE/BE whitepapers show FE in DMZ?

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

I couldn't have said it better myself. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Winzenz
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

What I don't understand is why everyone thinks that placing their FE server
in a DMZ is a more secure/better way/whatever have you.  IMHO, it is not.  I
don't understand what you think you are going to be gaining by placing it
there other than increased headache for the setup and troubleshooting.
Some
may offer the argument that if your FE server gets hacked, it is somewhat
isolated.  Let's be honest.  With the ports that are required to be open
between the FE and BE, if someone hacks your FE server, they can own your
internal network whether the FE is in a DMZ or not.  I'm just not convinced
that there is a need to place FE servers in the DMZ.  That, plus I seem to
remember that it is now Microsoft's suggestion to NOT place the FE server in
the DMZ.  I'll see if I can find the reference to that. 

Davinder, you are, of course, welcome to deploy this how you see fit.
It is, after all, your network, not mine.  Ultimately, if you feel it is a
better setup to place your FE server in your DMZ, then do that.  I'm just
trying to offer feedback.  As far as 5.5, that is a different scenario
altogether.  5.5 would allow you to install OWA separate from the Exchange
mailbox server.

Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday,
December 09, 2003 10:45 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Thanks everybody for replying. The plan is exactly to open 443 from outside
and required ports for GC/LDAP and required ports for BE server.
The DMZ is separate physical network (VLAN) and Firewall is going to allow
these specific kind of traffic only to required specific servers on inside
network. 

You guys seem very concerned with that which I respectfully don't
understand. Also this is exactly what we did in exchange 5.5, right??

Or another idea might be to create an IPSec tunnel between FE server and DCs
and limit the number of ports that way, ideas?


Thanks
Davinder



 -Original Message-
From:   Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: OWA and SMTP

I totally agree.  It is much easier to do extensive logging (and packet
filtering, for that matter) with a good layered firewall, as opposed to
locking down IIS (and Windows) to accept connections in an unsecured zone.  

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Why go through the hassle?  It is much easier (and just as secure) to simply
put the FE server inside your network, open up port 443 and 25 to the FE
server (I would not open port 80 for OWA), and that is all you should have
to do.  If you want to be even more secure, use something like ISA server to
publish the FE OWA server.  There are some servers that belong on a DMZ.
A FE OWA server is not one of them.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:36 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Have FE and BE on separate VLANs and set up access lists on the routers
allowing just the back-end VLAN to only accept traffic from the
front-end
VLAN if it is coming from the FE server, and only the specified ports.

How does that sound?


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

What Martin is saying is that those are not the only ports you have to
open.
There are MANY more that are required to be opened to allow for
communication between the FE server and the BE server, and communication
betweent the FE server and the DC/GC servers.  While the article seems
to
point out the correct ports, the post was misleading in saying that only
80/443 and a few others.  Those few other ports (esp. 135, and the
LDAP
ports) are something I would 

RE: SMTP Size Restriction on Per User Basis

2003-12-09 Thread John Matteson
Create an SMTP gateway for the one domain that the user wants to send
to, set the size limitation appropriately, and allow the connector to
accept mail from only that one user. 



John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.


-Original Message-
From: Exchange List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 5:33 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: SMTP Size Restriction on Per User Basis
Subject: SMTP Size Restriction on Per User Basis


Dear List,

Setup:

SMTP Gateway:
Exchange 2000:

I have a 2 MB smtp size restriction on gateway, one on my user wants to
send 5 MB of file on 10th of every month. I don't want to increase the
size on smtp gateway as it could allow all internet users to throw in
mails of 5 MB. Is there a way to allow certain users to send 5MB size
mails as outbound only.

I hope my question is clear to all.

regards,
Irf.

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RE: SMTP Connectors

2003-12-09 Thread John Matteson
You only need a bridgehead server if you have more than one server in
the routing group. If you have more than one server in the routing
group, it would be nice to have one machine designated as the bridgehead
for the RG, but not mandatory. If you have the connector set, then all
servers will use it. 



John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.


-Original Message-
From: Wohlgemuth, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:57 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: SMTP Connectors
Subject: SMTP Connectors


Platform: Win2K/sp4 Exchange 2K/sp3 with 4 Vvirtual SMTP Servers that
currently send email to the internet via DNS ...

Challenge: I want to route all email sent to one specific email address
([EMAIL PROTECTED] ) through my spam server (spam.server.org) ...

It looks like I will do this with an SMTP connector that uses my spam
server (spam.server.org)  as a smart host and the email address
([EMAIL PROTECTED] ) as my address space ... 

Does this sound correct?

Do I also need to set up my Virtual SMTP Servers as local bridgehead
servers?

Thanks in advance ...

Mike


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RE: OWA and SMTP

2003-12-09 Thread Eric Fretz
I'm reminded of the character Yogourt in Spaceballs the Movie, It's all
about the merchandising.

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Don't they show ISA in there as well? 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov, Andrey
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

Why do Microsoft FE/BE whitepapers show FE in DMZ?

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

I couldn't have said it better myself. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Winzenz
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

What I don't understand is why everyone thinks that placing their FE server
in a DMZ is a more secure/better way/whatever have you.  IMHO, it is not.  I
don't understand what you think you are going to be gaining by placing it
there other than increased headache for the setup and troubleshooting. Some
may offer the argument that if your FE server gets hacked, it is somewhat
isolated.  Let's be honest.  With the ports that are required to be open
between the FE and BE, if someone hacks your FE server, they can own your
internal network whether the FE is in a DMZ or not.  I'm just not convinced
that there is a need to place FE servers in the DMZ.  That, plus I seem to
remember that it is now Microsoft's suggestion to NOT place the FE server in
the DMZ.  I'll see if I can find the reference to that. 

Davinder, you are, of course, welcome to deploy this how you see fit. It is,
after all, your network, not mine.  Ultimately, if you feel it is a better
setup to place your FE server in your DMZ, then do that.  I'm just trying to
offer feedback.  As far as 5.5, that is a different scenario altogether.
5.5 would allow you to install OWA separate from the Exchange mailbox
server.

Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday,
December 09, 2003 10:45 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Thanks everybody for replying. The plan is exactly to open 443 from outside
and required ports for GC/LDAP and required ports for BE server. The DMZ is
separate physical network (VLAN) and Firewall is going to allow these
specific kind of traffic only to required specific servers on inside
network. 

You guys seem very concerned with that which I respectfully don't
understand. Also this is exactly what we did in exchange 5.5, right??

Or another idea might be to create an IPSec tunnel between FE server and DCs
and limit the number of ports that way, ideas?


Thanks
Davinder



 -Original Message-
From:   Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: OWA and SMTP

I totally agree.  It is much easier to do extensive logging (and packet
filtering, for that matter) with a good layered firewall, as opposed to
locking down IIS (and Windows) to accept connections in an unsecured zone.  

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Why go through the hassle?  It is much easier (and just as secure) to simply
put the FE server inside your network, open up port 443 and 25 to the FE
server (I would not open port 80 for OWA), and that is all you should have
to do.  If you want to be even more secure, use something like ISA server to
publish the FE OWA server.  There are some servers that belong on a DMZ. A
FE OWA server is not one of them.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:36 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Have FE and BE on separate VLANs and set up access lists on the routers
allowing just the back-end VLAN to only accept traffic from the front-end
VLAN if it is coming from the FE server, and only the specified ports.

How does that sound?


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

What Martin is saying is that those are not the only ports 

RE: OWA and SMTP

2003-12-09 Thread Martin Blackstone
Or my favorite:
There is the right way, the wrong way, or the Microsoft way. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

I'm reminded of the character Yogourt in Spaceballs the Movie, It's all
about the merchandising.

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Don't they show ISA in there as well? 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fyodorov, Andrey
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

Why do Microsoft FE/BE whitepapers show FE in DMZ?

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

I couldn't have said it better myself. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Winzenz
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

What I don't understand is why everyone thinks that placing their FE server
in a DMZ is a more secure/better way/whatever have you.  IMHO, it is not.  I
don't understand what you think you are going to be gaining by placing it
there other than increased headache for the setup and troubleshooting. Some
may offer the argument that if your FE server gets hacked, it is somewhat
isolated.  Let's be honest.  With the ports that are required to be open
between the FE and BE, if someone hacks your FE server, they can own your
internal network whether the FE is in a DMZ or not.  I'm just not convinced
that there is a need to place FE servers in the DMZ.  That, plus I seem to
remember that it is now Microsoft's suggestion to NOT place the FE server in
the DMZ.  I'll see if I can find the reference to that. 

Davinder, you are, of course, welcome to deploy this how you see fit. It is,
after all, your network, not mine.  Ultimately, if you feel it is a better
setup to place your FE server in your DMZ, then do that.  I'm just trying to
offer feedback.  As far as 5.5, that is a different scenario altogether.
5.5 would allow you to install OWA separate from the Exchange mailbox
server.

Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday,
December 09, 2003 10:45 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Thanks everybody for replying. The plan is exactly to open 443 from outside
and required ports for GC/LDAP and required ports for BE server. The DMZ is
separate physical network (VLAN) and Firewall is going to allow these
specific kind of traffic only to required specific servers on inside
network. 

You guys seem very concerned with that which I respectfully don't
understand. Also this is exactly what we did in exchange 5.5, right??

Or another idea might be to create an IPSec tunnel between FE server and DCs
and limit the number of ports that way, ideas?


Thanks
Davinder



 -Original Message-
From:   Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: OWA and SMTP

I totally agree.  It is much easier to do extensive logging (and packet
filtering, for that matter) with a good layered firewall, as opposed to
locking down IIS (and Windows) to accept connections in an unsecured zone.  

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
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fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Why go through the hassle?  It is much easier (and just as secure) to simply
put the FE server inside your network, open up port 443 and 25 to the FE
server (I would not open port 80 for OWA), and that is all you should have
to do.  If you want to be even more secure, use something like ISA server to
publish the FE OWA server.  There are some servers that belong on a DMZ. A
FE OWA server is not one of them.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:36 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Have FE and BE on separate VLANs and set up access lists on the routers
allowing just the back-end VLAN to only accept traffic from the front-end
VLAN if it is coming from the FE server, and 

RE: OWA and SMTP

2003-12-09 Thread Davinder Gupta
Can you point me to those articles/white papers etc. ??

I would like to look into the possibility of using ISA and keeping FE server
in DMZ.

Thanks
Davinder



 -Original Message-
From:   Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: OWA and SMTP

Don't they show ISA in there as well? 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

Why do Microsoft FE/BE whitepapers show FE in DMZ?

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

I couldn't have said it better myself. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

What I don't understand is why everyone thinks that placing their FE server
in a DMZ is a more secure/better way/whatever have you.  IMHO, it is not.  I
don't understand what you think you are going to be gaining by placing it
there other than increased headache for the setup and troubleshooting.
Some
may offer the argument that if your FE server gets hacked, it is somewhat
isolated.  Let's be honest.  With the ports that are required to be open
between the FE and BE, if someone hacks your FE server, they can own your
internal network whether the FE is in a DMZ or not.  I'm just not convinced
that there is a need to place FE servers in the DMZ.  That, plus I seem to
remember that it is now Microsoft's suggestion to NOT place the FE server in
the DMZ.  I'll see if I can find the reference to that. 

Davinder, you are, of course, welcome to deploy this how you see fit.
It is, after all, your network, not mine.  Ultimately, if you feel it is a
better setup to place your FE server in your DMZ, then do that.  I'm just
trying to offer feedback.  As far as 5.5, that is a different scenario
altogether.  5.5 would allow you to install OWA separate from the Exchange
mailbox server.

Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday,
December 09, 2003 10:45 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Thanks everybody for replying. The plan is exactly to open 443 from outside
and required ports for GC/LDAP and required ports for BE server.
The DMZ is separate physical network (VLAN) and Firewall is going to allow
these specific kind of traffic only to required specific servers on inside
network. 

You guys seem very concerned with that which I respectfully don't
understand. Also this is exactly what we did in exchange 5.5, right??

Or another idea might be to create an IPSec tunnel between FE server and DCs
and limit the number of ports that way, ideas?


Thanks
Davinder



 -Original Message-
From:   Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: OWA and SMTP

I totally agree.  It is much easier to do extensive logging (and packet
filtering, for that matter) with a good layered firewall, as opposed to
locking down IIS (and Windows) to accept connections in an unsecured zone.  

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Why go through the hassle?  It is much easier (and just as secure) to simply
put the FE server inside your network, open up port 443 and 25 to the FE
server (I would not open port 80 for OWA), and that is all you should have
to do.  If you want to be even more secure, use something like ISA server to
publish the FE OWA server.  There are some servers that belong on a DMZ.
A FE OWA server is not one of them.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:36 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Have FE and BE on separate VLANs and set up access lists on the routers
allowing just the back-end VLAN to only accept traffic from the
front-end
VLAN if it is coming from the FE server, and only the specified ports.

How does that sound?


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

What Martin is saying is that those are not the only ports you have to
open.
There are MANY more that are 

Active Directory

2003-12-09 Thread jazzy144
When we installed Active Directory, a lot of permission didn't carry over.
Has anyone had that problem.

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RE: Active Directory

2003-12-09 Thread Bowles, John (OIG/OMP)
Hey Jazzy, where's the Fresh Prince?  

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RE: Active Directory

2003-12-09 Thread Eric Fretz
bum dum, ching!

Eric Fretz

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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:31 AM
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Hey Jazzy, where's the Fresh Prince?  

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RE: Active Directory

2003-12-09 Thread Ben Winzenz
Can you be a little more specifc?  What permissions didn't carry over?
Carry over from what?  Your question is very vague. 


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RE: Active Directory

2003-12-09 Thread Bowles, John (OIG/OMP)
You're moving out with your Auntie and Uncle from Bel Air.

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RE: Active Directory

2003-12-09 Thread jazzy144
Some permission that didn't carry over was the Doman Administrators group,
helpdesk group, and workgroup managers group.

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RE: Active Directory

2003-12-09 Thread Ben Winzenz
What did they not carry over FROM?  You haven't told us anything about
your environment, whether you just did a migration, what the old
environment was, etc. etc.  You haven't provided enough info for us to
give you any sort of answer.  What would you say to one of your users if
they came up to you and said Some permissions didn't carry over?
You'd likely say something to the effect of I need more info please. 


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Subject: RE: Active Directory


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RE: SMTP Size Restriction on Per User Basis

2003-12-09 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
And set restrictions on the original SMTP connector so that it would not
accept mail from that user.


-Original Message-
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Create an SMTP gateway for the one domain that the user wants to send
to, set the size limitation appropriately, and allow the connector to
accept mail from only that one user. 



John Matteson
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Atlanta, Georgia, USA.


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Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
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Subject: SMTP Size Restriction on Per User Basis


Dear List,

Setup:

SMTP Gateway:
Exchange 2000:

I have a 2 MB smtp size restriction on gateway, one on my user wants to
send 5 MB of file on 10th of every month. I don't want to increase the
size on smtp gateway as it could allow all internet users to throw in
mails of 5 MB. Is there a way to allow certain users to send 5MB size
mails as outbound only.

I hope my question is clear to all.

regards,
Irf.

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RE: Active Directory

2003-12-09 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
From where?



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RE: OWA and SMTP

2003-12-09 Thread David, Andy
Shouldn't the ISA server be in the DMZ?


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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Don't they show ISA in there as well? 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

Why do Microsoft FE/BE whitepapers show FE in DMZ?

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

I couldn't have said it better myself. 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

What I don't understand is why everyone thinks that placing their FE server
in a DMZ is a more secure/better way/whatever have you.  IMHO, it is not.  I
don't understand what you think you are going to be gaining by placing it
there other than increased headache for the setup and troubleshooting. Some
may offer the argument that if your FE server gets hacked, it is somewhat
isolated.  Let's be honest.  With the ports that are required to be open
between the FE and BE, if someone hacks your FE server, they can own your
internal network whether the FE is in a DMZ or not.  I'm just not convinced
that there is a need to place FE servers in the DMZ.  That, plus I seem to
remember that it is now Microsoft's suggestion to NOT place the FE server in
the DMZ.  I'll see if I can find the reference to that. 

Davinder, you are, of course, welcome to deploy this how you see fit. It is,
after all, your network, not mine.  Ultimately, if you feel it is a better
setup to place your FE server in your DMZ, then do that.  I'm just trying to
offer feedback.  As far as 5.5, that is a different scenario altogether.
5.5 would allow you to install OWA separate from the Exchange mailbox
server.

Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
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-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday,
December 09, 2003 10:45 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Thanks everybody for replying. The plan is exactly to open 443 from outside
and required ports for GC/LDAP and required ports for BE server. The DMZ is
separate physical network (VLAN) and Firewall is going to allow these
specific kind of traffic only to required specific servers on inside
network. 

You guys seem very concerned with that which I respectfully don't
understand. Also this is exactly what we did in exchange 5.5, right??

Or another idea might be to create an IPSec tunnel between FE server and DCs
and limit the number of ports that way, ideas?


Thanks
Davinder



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From:   Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: OWA and SMTP

I totally agree.  It is much easier to do extensive logging (and packet
filtering, for that matter) with a good layered firewall, as opposed to
locking down IIS (and Windows) to accept connections in an unsecured zone.  

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Why go through the hassle?  It is much easier (and just as secure) to simply
put the FE server inside your network, open up port 443 and 25 to the FE
server (I would not open port 80 for OWA), and that is all you should have
to do.  If you want to be even more secure, use something like ISA server to
publish the FE OWA server.  There are some servers that belong on a DMZ. A
FE OWA server is not one of them.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:36 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: OWA and SMTP
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP


Have FE and BE on separate VLANs and set up access lists on the routers
allowing just the back-end VLAN to only accept traffic from the front-end
VLAN if it is coming from the FE server, and only the specified ports.

How does that sound?


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and SMTP

What Martin is saying is that those are not the only ports you have to open.
There are MANY more that are required to be opened to allow for
communication between the FE server and the BE server, and communication
betweent the FE server and the 

RE: removal of first exchange 2000 server

2003-12-09 Thread David, Andy
Have you tried creating a new Outlook profile? Removing and re-adding the
Outlook Address Book?



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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: removal of first exchange 2000 server


I have had a mixed exch 2000/2003 site running for about a month.  I have
followed the Q article regarding removal of first exchange server in a site.
Now some of my clients are having issues when accessing their mailbox's.
outlook is set for their mailbox to point to the new server and outlook
opens but clicking inbox locks outlook.  I have tried
repairing outlook and upgrading it to 2003 but nothing fix's it.   Any
info would be appreciated.

Exchange 2003 on windows 2003 cluster.
Removed server is exchange 2000 on windows 2000 non cluster Client outlook
xp/2003


Ronald R. Mazzotta Jr.
Director of IT
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RE: removal of first exchange 2000 server

2003-12-09 Thread Morgan, Joshua (Greenville)
What happens when you generate them a new profile?






Joshua Morgan
AIMCO
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W. 864 239-1015


-Original Message-
From: Ronald Mazzotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: removal of first exchange 2000 server


I have had a mixed exch 2000/2003 site running for about a month.  I have
followed the Q article regarding removal of first exchange server in a site.
Now some of my clients are having issues when accessing their mailbox's.
outlook is set for their mailbox to point to the new server and outlook
opens but clicking inbox locks outlook.  I have tried
repairing outlook and upgrading it to 2003 but nothing fix's it.   Any
info would be appreciated.

Exchange 2003 on windows 2003 cluster.
Removed server is exchange 2000 on windows 2000 non cluster Client outlook
xp/2003


Ronald R. Mazzotta Jr.
Director of IT
Schonbraun Safris McCann Bekritsky  Co. L.L.C.
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Roseland NJ, 07068




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RE: Active Directory

2003-12-09 Thread David, Andy
Huh?



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Subject: Active Directory


When we installed Active Directory, a lot of permission didn't carry over.
Has anyone had that problem.

Thank you

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RE: Active Directory

2003-12-09 Thread Eric Fretz
This happened because you purchased the sports car version of Active
Directory, not the Dump Truck version.  Only the Dump Truck version will
actually carry anything.

=)

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



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From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:03 PM
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Subject: RE: Active Directory


Huh?



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When we installed Active Directory, a lot of permission didn't carry over.
Has anyone had that problem.

Thank you

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RE: removal of first exchange 2000 server

2003-12-09 Thread Ronald Mazzotta
It turns out that the default gal wasn't re-homed.  I had to fix that,
change the expansion server of my distro lists and uninstall exchange
from my old server. 

Ronald R. Mazzotta Jr.
Director of IT
Schonbraun Safris McCann Bekritsky  Co. L.L.C.
101 Eisenhower pky
Roseland NJ, 07068
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Morgan, Joshua
(Greenville)
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 4:04 PM
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Subject: RE: removal of first exchange 2000 server

What happens when you generate them a new profile?






Joshua Morgan
AIMCO
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W. 864 239-1015


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From: Ronald Mazzotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:01 AM
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Subject: removal of first exchange 2000 server


I have had a mixed exch 2000/2003 site running for about a month.  I
have
followed the Q article regarding removal of first exchange server in a
site.
Now some of my clients are having issues when accessing their mailbox's.
outlook is set for their mailbox to point to the new server and outlook
opens but clicking inbox locks outlook.  I have tried
repairing outlook and upgrading it to 2003 but nothing fix's it.   Any
info would be appreciated.

Exchange 2003 on windows 2003 cluster.
Removed server is exchange 2000 on windows 2000 non cluster Client
outlook
xp/2003


Ronald R. Mazzotta Jr.
Director of IT
Schonbraun Safris McCann Bekritsky  Co. L.L.C.
101 Eisenhower pky
Roseland NJ, 07068




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Creating an address list

2003-12-09 Thread James Lavoie
Running E2k sp3 on W2k sp4.

Created a new address list in ESM under All Address Lists and also created one under 
All Users which is a child object of All Address Lists. I cannot view either one 
from an Outlook client. Searched through ESM help files and through technet online, 
and found info on creating an address list, and verified that I followed those steps 
correctly but could not find any info on what to do if you cannot see your newly 
created list from within Outlook. Do I have to restart Exchange services or something? 
I must be missing something obvious but have gone through it several times with no 
progress.

Thanks for any info.

J

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Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

2003-12-09 Thread ml.exchange
We are currently running a Ex 5.5 mixed mode environment with our First Exchange 2003 
server deployed for testing with our IT department. For the life of me
I can not get Backup Exec 9.0 4454 (with E2k3 hot fix) or 9.1 to see and backup the 
private and public info stores. 

It WILL see and backup the mailboxes and public folders just fine in bricks mode (not 
that I want to). It gives me no errors, but just does not show the IS
as an available item to backup. I have tried this with two different backup servers, 
and by installing BE 9.1 on to the new Exchange server by its self.

I have even created a new account for it to use to login with.

Has anyone seen this behavior before? I'd like to rule out something stupid if I can 
before I spend an hour on hold with Veritas.

Thanks

Miles



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RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

2003-12-09 Thread Akerlund, Scott
Did you install the Exchange Admin with the same SP on the backup systems?

Scott

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Subject: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

We are currently running a Ex 5.5 mixed mode environment with our First
Exchange 2003 server deployed for testing with our IT department. For the life
of me
I can not get Backup Exec 9.0 4454 (with E2k3 hot fix) or 9.1 to see and backup
the private and public info stores. 

It WILL see and backup the mailboxes and public folders just fine in bricks
mode (not that I want to). It gives me no errors, but just does not show the IS
as an available item to backup. I have tried this with two different backup
servers, and by installing BE 9.1 on to the new Exchange server by its self.

I have even created a new account for it to use to login with.

Has anyone seen this behavior before? I'd like to rule out something stupid if
I can before I spend an hour on hold with Veritas.

Thanks

Miles



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RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

2003-12-09 Thread ml.exchange
Yes, Exchange Admin and System Manager from Exchange 2003 are on both of my production 
backup servers AND on the Exchange 2003 server I installed BE 9.1 on.
The exchange agent is also installed. 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:25 PM
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Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

Did you install the Exchange Admin with the same SP on the backup systems?

Scott

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From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?

We are currently running a Ex 5.5 mixed mode environment with our First Exchange 2003 
server deployed for testing with our IT department. For the life of me
I can not get Backup Exec 9.0 4454 (with E2k3 hot fix) or 9.1 to see and backup the 
private and public info stores. 

It WILL see and backup the mailboxes and public folders just fine in bricks mode (not 
that I want to). It gives me no errors, but just does not show the IS
as an available item to backup. I have tried this with two different backup servers, 
and by installing BE 9.1 on to the new Exchange server by its self.

I have even created a new account for it to use to login with.

Has anyone seen this behavior before? I'd like to rule out something stupid if I can 
before I spend an hour on hold with Veritas.

Thanks

Miles



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Wireless OT

2003-12-09 Thread Matt Plahtinsky
Does anyone know of a good wireless list group like this exchange list?


Thanks

Matt

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RE: Wireless OT

2003-12-09 Thread Mark Jeremy
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wirelesslan/ 

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Does anyone know of a good wireless list group like this exchange list?


Thanks

Matt

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RE: SMTP Size Restriction on Per User Basis

2003-12-09 Thread Exchange List
I am running IIS on SMTP Gateway ( No Exchange on this machine), I have to relax the 
limit there which which means it is open for everybody for inbound traffic.

regards,
irf

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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:18 PM
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Subject: RE: SMTP Size Restriction on Per User Basis


Create an SMTP gateway for the one domain that the user wants to send
to, set the size limitation appropriately, and allow the connector to
accept mail from only that one user. 



John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.


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Posted At: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 5:33 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: SMTP Size Restriction on Per User Basis
Subject: SMTP Size Restriction on Per User Basis


Dear List,

Setup:

SMTP Gateway:
Exchange 2000:

I have a 2 MB smtp size restriction on gateway, one on my user wants to
send 5 MB of file on 10th of every month. I don't want to increase the
size on smtp gateway as it could allow all internet users to throw in
mails of 5 MB. Is there a way to allow certain users to send 5MB size
mails as outbound only.

I hope my question is clear to all.

regards,
Irf.

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RE: Cant find/delete this public folder

2003-12-09 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;152433 

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 5:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Cant find/delete this public folder

We have a public folder that shows up in the public folder list on each
exchange server, but it doesn't exist on any of the exchange servers.
You cant access it from an outlook client, and you cant check the
properties, etc.. from Exchange admin, as it states that public folder
replication may not have completed.

Each server has it in the global public folder list, but none of them have
it in their public folder resources list.

My assumption was to go to the instances tab of Public Information store and
put its instance on a server to see if this would allow me to do anything
with it, but I thought I would see if anyone has any other ideas on what the
cause might be.
Basically we just want to be rid of the folder (not concerned with any data
it may contain).

Its MSX 5.5 SP3 and there are 3 servers in network.

Please let me know what I can do to get rid of this folder.

Cheers.

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RE: Discussions or Newsgroups

2003-12-09 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Through a mail-enabled public folder.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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What's the best way to host Discussions or newsgroup type features in
Exchange 2000?

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