RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000

2003-12-16 Thread Shotton Jolyon
GD wrote: "I am not sure why you
are so certain that the project was severly underscoped"

Erm, could it be down to the fact that the budget was allocated before the
consultant even knew which GroupWise client was most suitable for the task?


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RE: Sources of outages

2003-12-16 Thread Robert Moir
Would you like a free pen, and some notepaper?

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Luton Sixth Form College
RM Eunt Domus


> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 15 December 2003 22:21
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sources of outages
> 
> 
> 
>   What percentages is due to covert action by unethical MVPs 
> with secret agendas ?
> 
>   
> -Original Message-
> From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 2:31 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sources of outages
> 
> Apathy - 75%
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 2:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sources of outages
> 
> 
> Poor Admin Practices : 90%
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Orin Rehorst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 2:12 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: OT: Sources of outages
> 
> Regarding general sources of corporate computing outages, 
> these figures seem to be accurate. Agree? 
> 
> 
> Communication lines and services  80 percent
> 
> Servers   14 percent
> 
> Routers and switches  1 percent
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Orin 
> 
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RE: Day 2 Lessons Learned: GW6.5 to Exchange 2000

2003-12-16 Thread Shotton Jolyon
GD wrote: "I am not sure why you
are so certain that the project was severly underscoped"

Erm, could it be down to the fact that the budget was allocated before the
consultant even knew which GroupWise client was most suitable for the task?


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RE: Impact of sending attachment to many recipients?

2003-12-16 Thread Roger Seielstad
True.. True. Now that my data center move is almost done, I can start
looking at that again...

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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 6:40 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Impact of sending attachment to many recipients?
> 
> 
> We can help you with that!
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Roger Seielstad
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:35 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Impact of sending attachment to many recipients?
> 
> Yeah. Whatever.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 8:32 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Impact of sending attachment to many recipients?
> > 
> > 
> > Well, to be nit-picky, its one copy per mailbox store!  
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:22 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Impact of sending attachment to many recipients?
> > 
> > Actually, its one copy per server containing a mailbox in the 
> > distribution.
> > That's important to remember when dealing with multiple servers.
> > 
> > --
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis Inc.
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:33 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Impact of sending attachment to many recipients?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > As Tony says, search under Single Instance Storage (aka
> > SIS) for the
> > > techie explanation.
> > > 
> > > In the case your friend cites, he's wrong. What will 
> happen is that 
> > > your mail gets sent to 1000 people, and there is one copy
> > of it. Now
> > > if one of them opens that mail and annotates it with their
> > thoughts on
> > > what you said, and then saves it, then the server will hold
> > one copy
> > > of his altered mail for him and 1 other copy for the other
> > 999 people.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Robert Moir
> > > Microsoft MVP
> > > Senior IT Systems Engineer
> > > Luton Sixth Form College
> > > RM Eunt Domus
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: 14 December 2003 10:55
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: Impact of sending attachment to many recipients?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > Let's say a user sends a 1Mb attachment by email to 
> 1000 people, 
> > > > does it add 1000Mb to the Exchange Database?
> > > > 
> > > > I put out a post like this before & the replies were negative.
> > > > 
> > > > But now a friend pointed out that a recipient who has a 
> mailbox on 
> > > > the Exchange Server could for example open this email & 
> change it.
> > > > 
> > > > Then save it (i.e. the email was changed).  
> > > > 
> > > > So he's saying that this shows that each person gets their 
> > > > personal copy of the email.
> > > > 
> > > > Therefore, the 1Mb attachment in the email to 1000 people DOES 
> > > > increase the Exchange Database size by 1000Mb.
> > > > 
> > > > Pls. can you shed some light on this discussion for us?
> > > > 
> > > > I'd appreciate some official article from Microsoft (e.g. 
> > > > Technet) to prove my point.
> > > > 
> > > > Help!
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > 
> > > > Pls. Cc all replies to me on: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 
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RE: Day 3: Lessons Learned GW6.5 to Exchange 2000

2003-12-16 Thread Shotton Jolyon
Would that make the rest of us Deckler's Hecklers?

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From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 December 2003 23:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Day 3: Lessons Learned GW6.5 to Exchange 2000


We should change the name of this list to "Deckler's Blog". 


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OWA 5.5

2003-12-16 Thread Bourque Daniel

I read somewhere that it was possible to use one IIS server to front
multiple Exchange 5.5 servers, member of different Exchange sites.  Is it
true?

If yes, can you point me in the right direction on how to implement this?
Thank you.


Daniel


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RE: OWA 5.5

2003-12-16 Thread Roger Seielstad
I have one for our two sites here - there's no additional configuration
necessary - as long as the OWA box has connectivity to all sites.

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Bourque Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: OWA 5.5
> 
> 
> 
> I read somewhere that it was possible to use one IIS server to front
> multiple Exchange 5.5 servers, member of different Exchange 
> sites.  Is it
> true?
> 
> If yes, can you point me in the right direction on how to 
> implement this?
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
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Command line directory export of GAL container

2003-12-16 Thread Tim Ault
How does one export the contents of the Global Address List container from
the command line (Exchange 5.5)?

I can select the Global Address List container from within Admin as the
source to export to a csv file, but I want to script the process.

Tim.

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RE: Command line directory export of GAL container

2003-12-16 Thread David, Andy
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;149447




 

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From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Command line directory export of GAL container

How does one export the contents of the Global Address List container from
the command line (Exchange 5.5)?

I can select the Global Address List container from within Admin as the
source to export to a csv file, but I want to script the process.

Tim.

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RE: Command line directory export of GAL container

2003-12-16 Thread Alverson, Tom

Google search using:

"command line" "exchange 5.5" gal export

Yields a lot of stuff including:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;149447 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Command line directory export of GAL container

How does one export the contents of the Global Address List container from
the command line (Exchange 5.5)?

I can select the Global Address List container from within Admin as the
source to export to a csv file, but I want to script the process.

Tim.

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IFS

2003-12-16 Thread Kim Schotanus

Help, 

Under the folder mdbdata there is suddenly a .IFS file, can anyone tell
me what it is/does, and how it got there? 

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RE: IFS

2003-12-16 Thread David, Andy
Those are temp files. They should be deleted by the store at some point
during normal processing.


-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IFS


Help, 

Under the folder mdbdata there is suddenly a .IFS file, can anyone tell me
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RE: IFS

2003-12-16 Thread Kim Schotanus
Thanks, 

I was worried, because I received a number of messenger pop-ups on that
server, and it is behind a firewall and no-one should be able to do
that, then I bumped on to that file... 

Kim

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Those are temp files. They should be deleted by the store at some point
during normal processing.


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IFS


Help, 

Under the folder mdbdata there is suddenly a .IFS file, can anyone tell
me what it is/does, and how it got there? 

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RE: IFS

2003-12-16 Thread Ben Winzenz
Why is your messenger service running?  You can safely disable it. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:41 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


Thanks, 

I was worried, because I received a number of messenger pop-ups on that
server, and it is behind a firewall and no-one should be able to do
that, then I bumped on to that file... 

Kim

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Those are temp files. They should be deleted by the store at some point
during normal processing.


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IFS


Help, 

Under the folder mdbdata there is suddenly a .IFS file, can anyone tell
me what it is/does, and how it got there? 

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RE: IFS

2003-12-16 Thread Eric Fretz
Because you have been own3d by 31137 hax0rs.


Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Why is your messenger service running?  You can safely disable it. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:41 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


Thanks, 

I was worried, because I received a number of messenger pop-ups on that
server, and it is behind a firewall and no-one should be able to do that,
then I bumped on to that file... 

Kim

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Those are temp files. They should be deleted by the store at some point
during normal processing.


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IFS


Help, 

Under the folder mdbdata there is suddenly a .IFS file, can anyone tell me
what it is/does, and how it got there? 

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RE: IFS

2003-12-16 Thread Kim Schotanus



How? 


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Because you have been own3d by 31137 hax0rs.


Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Why is your messenger service running?  You can safely disable it. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


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From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:41 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


Thanks, 

I was worried, because I received a number of messenger pop-ups on that
server, and it is behind a firewall and no-one should be able to do
that, then I bumped on to that file... 

Kim

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Those are temp files. They should be deleted by the store at some point
during normal processing.


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IFS


Help, 

Under the folder mdbdata there is suddenly a .IFS file, can anyone tell
me what it is/does, and how it got there? 

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RE: IFS

2003-12-16 Thread Ben Winzenz
Don't pay any attention to him.  He's kidding.  Eric?  You're kidding,
right???  Eric???

Seriously though, I'd disable that service.  It's part of my standard
build procedures for all servers (there is no reason that you need to
send popup messages to/from servers) and it does not affect anything
else.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:55 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS





How? 


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Because you have been own3d by 31137 hax0rs.


Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Why is your messenger service running?  You can safely disable it. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:41 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


Thanks, 

I was worried, because I received a number of messenger pop-ups on that
server, and it is behind a firewall and no-one should be able to do
that, then I bumped on to that file... 

Kim

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Those are temp files. They should be deleted by the store at some point
during normal processing.


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IFS


Help, 

Under the folder mdbdata there is suddenly a .IFS file, can anyone tell
me what it is/does, and how it got there? 

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RE: IFS

2003-12-16 Thread Randal, Phil
How???

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/
bulletin/MS03-043.asp

Cheers,

Phil

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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ben Winzenz
> Sent: 16 December 2003 14:56
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: IFS
> 
> 
> Don't pay any attention to him.  He's kidding.  Eric?  You're kidding,
> right???  Eric???
> 
> Seriously though, I'd disable that service.  It's part of my standard
> build procedures for all servers (there is no reason that you need to
> send popup messages to/from servers) and it does not affect anything
> else.
> 
> 
> Ben Winzenz
> Network Engineer
> Gardner & White
> (317) 581-1580 ext 418
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:55 AM
> Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
> Conversation: IFS
> Subject: RE: IFS
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> How? 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:47
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: IFS
> 
> 
> Because you have been own3d by 31137 hax0rs.
> 
> 
> Eric Fretz
> 
> L-3 Communications
> ComCept Division
> 2800 Discovery Blvd.
> Rockwall, TX 75032
> tel:   972.772.7501
> fax:  972.772.7510
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:49 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: IFS
> 
> 
> Why is your messenger service running?  You can safely disable it. 
> 
> 
> Ben Winzenz
> Network Engineer
> Gardner & White
> (317) 581-1580 ext 418
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:41 AM
> Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
> Conversation: IFS
> Subject: RE: IFS
> 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> I was worried, because I received a number of messenger 
> pop-ups on that
> server, and it is behind a firewall and no-one should be able to do
> that, then I bumped on to that file... 
> 
> Kim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:36
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: IFS
> 
> 
> Those are temp files. They should be deleted by the store at 
> some point
> during normal processing.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:29 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: IFS
> 
> 
> Help, 
> 
> Under the folder mdbdata there is suddenly a .IFS file, can 
> anyone tell
> me what it is/does, and how it got there? 
> 
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RE: IFS

2003-12-16 Thread Eric Fretz
I was actually just trying to antagonize Kim, but Phil has given us all
something to think about.


Eric Fretz

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ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
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-Original Message-
From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


How???

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/
bulletin/MS03-043.asp

Cheers,

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ben Winzenz
> Sent: 16 December 2003 14:56
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: IFS
> 
> 
> Don't pay any attention to him.  He's kidding.  Eric?  You're kidding, 
> right???  Eric???
> 
> Seriously though, I'd disable that service.  It's part of my standard 
> build procedures for all servers (there is no reason that you need to 
> send popup messages to/from servers) and it does not affect anything 
> else.
> 
> 
> Ben Winzenz
> Network Engineer
> Gardner & White
> (317) 581-1580 ext 418
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:55 AM
> Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
> Conversation: IFS
> Subject: RE: IFS
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> How?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:47
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: IFS
> 
> 
> Because you have been own3d by 31137 hax0rs.
> 
> 
> Eric Fretz
> 
> L-3 Communications
> ComCept Division
> 2800 Discovery Blvd.
> Rockwall, TX 75032
> tel:   972.772.7501
> fax:  972.772.7510
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:49 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: IFS
> 
> 
> Why is your messenger service running?  You can safely disable it.
> 
> 
> Ben Winzenz
> Network Engineer
> Gardner & White
> (317) 581-1580 ext 418
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:41 AM
> Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
> Conversation: IFS
> Subject: RE: IFS
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> I was worried, because I received a number of messenger
> pop-ups on that
> server, and it is behind a firewall and no-one should be able to do
> that, then I bumped on to that file... 
> 
> Kim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:36
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: IFS
> 
> 
> Those are temp files. They should be deleted by the store at
> some point
> during normal processing.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:29 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: IFS
> 
> 
> Help,
> 
> Under the folder mdbdata there is suddenly a .IFS file, can
> anyone tell
> me what it is/does, and how it got there? 
> 
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RE: IFS

2003-12-16 Thread Eric Fretz
Yes, only teasing...  Sort of

Eric Fretz

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ComCept Division
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Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Don't pay any attention to him.  He's kidding.  Eric?  You're kidding,
right???  Eric???

Seriously though, I'd disable that service.  It's part of my standard build
procedures for all servers (there is no reason that you need to send popup
messages to/from servers) and it does not affect anything else.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:55 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS





How? 


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Because you have been own3d by 31137 hax0rs.


Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Why is your messenger service running?  You can safely disable it. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:41 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


Thanks, 

I was worried, because I received a number of messenger pop-ups on that
server, and it is behind a firewall and no-one should be able to do that,
then I bumped on to that file... 

Kim

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Those are temp files. They should be deleted by the store at some point
during normal processing.


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IFS


Help, 

Under the folder mdbdata there is suddenly a .IFS file, can anyone tell me
what it is/does, and how it got there? 

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Connectors in 5.5 and 2K

2003-12-16 Thread Davinder Gupta
Hi Guys,

Can an Exchange 5.5 connector (x.400) in one exchange site talk to another
connector (x.400) connector in Exchange 2K?

Thanks
Davinder




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RE: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K

2003-12-16 Thread Bowles, John (OIG/OMP)
Yes, but what reasoning would you have for just using an X.400 connector?  Because it 
has a lot of limitations that's why I ask.

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Hi Guys,

Can an Exchange 5.5 connector (x.400) in one exchange site talk to another
connector (x.400) connector in Exchange 2K?

Thanks
Davinder




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RE: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K

2003-12-16 Thread Davinder Gupta
Link speed/latency limitations.

Davinder



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Sent:   Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:17 AM
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Subject:RE: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K

Yes, but what reasoning would you have for just using an X.400 connector?
Because it has a lot of limitations that's why I ask.

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Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K


Hi Guys,

Can an Exchange 5.5 connector (x.400) in one exchange site talk to another
connector (x.400) connector in Exchange 2K?

Thanks
Davinder




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Priv.edb

2003-12-16 Thread David
Hi all,
I've got a SBS 2000 server who's Priv.edb is 9GB. Its causing me some 
space issues. However, when i look at the mailbox resources they total to
no more than 2.7GB.
I have also just disabled circular logging, and am worried about the disk
the size of this store.
Do i need to run eseutil against this database to claim any space back.

Thnx in advance

David

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RE: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K

2003-12-16 Thread Roger Seielstad
Actually, it has a lot of advantages - in Exchange 5.5, that is.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Bowles, John (OIG/OMP) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:17 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K
> 
> 
> Yes, but what reasoning would you have for just using an 
> X.400 connector?  Because it has a lot of limitations that's 
> why I ask.
> 
> _
> John Bowles
> Exchange Engineer
> OIG/HHS
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
> Davinder Gupta
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:15 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K
> 
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> Can an Exchange 5.5 connector (x.400) in one exchange site 
> talk to another
> connector (x.400) connector in Exchange 2K?
> 
> Thanks
> Davinder
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Priv.edb

2003-12-16 Thread Ely, Don
Yowza, that's a loaded scenario...

Check your Application Log for Event ID 1221 and find out how much white
space you have in the store...

Regarding Circular Logging; Read the Exchange DR Whitepapers.  This should
be enabled and your nightly online backups will flush the logs.

9GB is a fairly small DB, but not knowing your environment, server specs,
etc...  I'd say add more disk space to your array... 

-Original Message-
From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Priv.edb

Hi all,
I've got a SBS 2000 server who's Priv.edb is 9GB. Its causing me some space
issues. However, when i look at the mailbox resources they total to no more
than 2.7GB.
I have also just disabled circular logging, and am worried about the disk
the size of this store.
Do i need to run eseutil against this database to claim any space back.

Thnx in advance

David

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RE: Priv.edb

2003-12-16 Thread Ben Winzenz
You mean circular logging should be disabled, right :-) 


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-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:30 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Priv.edb
Subject: RE: Priv.edb


Yowza, that's a loaded scenario...

Check your Application Log for Event ID 1221 and find out how much white
space you have in the store...

Regarding Circular Logging; Read the Exchange DR Whitepapers.  This
should be enabled and your nightly online backups will flush the logs.

9GB is a fairly small DB, but not knowing your environment, server
specs, etc...  I'd say add more disk space to your array... 

-Original Message-
From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Priv.edb

Hi all,
I've got a SBS 2000 server who's Priv.edb is 9GB. Its causing me some
space issues. However, when i look at the mailbox resources they total
to no more than 2.7GB.
I have also just disabled circular logging, and am worried about the
disk the size of this store.
Do i need to run eseutil against this database to claim any space back.

Thnx in advance

David

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RE: IFS

2003-12-16 Thread Bridges, Samantha
If you disable the messenger service, won't that hinder sending Alerts
if you use them?  

Samantha

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Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Yes, only teasing...  Sort of

Eric Fretz

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-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Don't pay any attention to him.  He's kidding.  Eric?  You're kidding,
right???  Eric???

Seriously though, I'd disable that service.  It's part of my standard
build procedures for all servers (there is no reason that you need to
send popup messages to/from servers) and it does not affect anything
else.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:55 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS





How? 


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From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Because you have been own3d by 31137 hax0rs.


Eric Fretz

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ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Why is your messenger service running?  You can safely disable it. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:41 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


Thanks, 

I was worried, because I received a number of messenger pop-ups on that
server, and it is behind a firewall and no-one should be able to do
that, then I bumped on to that file... 

Kim

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Those are temp files. They should be deleted by the store at some point
during normal processing.


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IFS


Help, 

Under the folder mdbdata there is suddenly a .IFS file, can anyone tell
me what it is/does, and how it got there? 

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RE: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K

2003-12-16 Thread Davinder Gupta
Yes, it is lot more resilient and robust than other connectors.




 -Original Message-
From:   Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K

Actually, it has a lot of advantages - in Exchange 5.5, that is.

Roger
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Bowles, John (OIG/OMP) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:17 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K
> 
> 
> Yes, but what reasoning would you have for just using an 
> X.400 connector?  Because it has a lot of limitations that's 
> why I ask.
> 
> _
> John Bowles
> Exchange Engineer
> OIG/HHS
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
> Davinder Gupta
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:15 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K
> 
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> Can an Exchange 5.5 connector (x.400) in one exchange site 
> talk to another
> connector (x.400) connector in Exchange 2K?
> 
> Thanks
> Davinder
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: IFS

2003-12-16 Thread Ely, Don
Yes, yes it would.  You think this is a bad thing? 

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From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS

If you disable the messenger service, won't that hinder sending Alerts if
you use them?  

Samantha

-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Yes, only teasing...  Sort of

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Don't pay any attention to him.  He's kidding.  Eric?  You're kidding,
right???  Eric???

Seriously though, I'd disable that service.  It's part of my standard
build procedures for all servers (there is no reason that you need to
send popup messages to/from servers) and it does not affect anything
else.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:55 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS





How? 


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Because you have been own3d by 31137 hax0rs.


Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Why is your messenger service running?  You can safely disable it. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:41 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


Thanks, 

I was worried, because I received a number of messenger pop-ups on that
server, and it is behind a firewall and no-one should be able to do
that, then I bumped on to that file... 

Kim

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Those are temp files. They should be deleted by the store at some point
during normal processing.


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IFS


Help, 

Under the folder mdbdata there is suddenly a .IFS file, can anyone tell
me what it is/does, and how it got there? 

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RE: Priv.edb

2003-12-16 Thread Ely, Don
Yeah, that's what I meant and now I'm even more confused in reading the
original post...

Must get more coffee!! 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv.edb

You mean circular logging should be disabled, right :-) 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, December
16, 2003 10:30 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Priv.edb
Subject: RE: Priv.edb


Yowza, that's a loaded scenario...

Check your Application Log for Event ID 1221 and find out how much white
space you have in the store...

Regarding Circular Logging; Read the Exchange DR Whitepapers.  This
should be enabled and your nightly online backups will flush the logs.

9GB is a fairly small DB, but not knowing your environment, server
specs, etc...  I'd say add more disk space to your array... 

-Original Message-
From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Priv.edb

Hi all,
I've got a SBS 2000 server who's Priv.edb is 9GB. Its causing me some
space issues. However, when i look at the mailbox resources they total
to no more than 2.7GB.
I have also just disabled circular logging, and am worried about the
disk the size of this store.
Do i need to run eseutil against this database to claim any space back.

Thnx in advance

David

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RE: IFS

2003-12-16 Thread Ben Winzenz
What do you mean?  Do you send popup messages as alerts?  Even the
Monitoring notifications from Exchange send out e-mail alerts (though
one could argue the usefulness of that feature) or scripts (which
require an executable to be specified).  Neither one uses the Messenger
service, though I suppose you could configure your script to use that.
I would say that it is best to not have your Exchange server monitoring
itself.  Put a monitoring package on a server with the SMTP service
installed and use that to send out your alerts. 


Ben Winzenz
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(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:46 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


If you disable the messenger service, won't that hinder sending Alerts
if you use them?  

Samantha

-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Yes, only teasing...  Sort of

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Don't pay any attention to him.  He's kidding.  Eric?  You're kidding,
right???  Eric???

Seriously though, I'd disable that service.  It's part of my standard
build procedures for all servers (there is no reason that you need to
send popup messages to/from servers) and it does not affect anything
else.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:55 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS





How? 


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Because you have been own3d by 31137 hax0rs.


Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Why is your messenger service running?  You can safely disable it. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:41 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


Thanks, 

I was worried, because I received a number of messenger pop-ups on that
server, and it is behind a firewall and no-one should be able to do
that, then I bumped on to that file... 

Kim

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Those are temp files. They should be deleted by the store at some point
during normal processing.


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IFS


Help, 

Under the folder mdbdata there is suddenly a .IFS file, can anyone tell
me what it is/does, and how it got there? 

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RE: IFS

2003-12-16 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Thanks everyone.  This was a great string.  Very useful.

I will be disabling the messenger service on all server too.

Thanks again.

Samantha

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


What do you mean?  Do you send popup messages as alerts?  Even the
Monitoring notifications from Exchange send out e-mail alerts (though
one could argue the usefulness of that feature) or scripts (which
require an executable to be specified).  Neither one uses the Messenger
service, though I suppose you could configure your script to use that. I
would say that it is best to not have your Exchange server monitoring
itself.  Put a monitoring package on a server with the SMTP service
installed and use that to send out your alerts. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:46 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


If you disable the messenger service, won't that hinder sending Alerts
if you use them?  

Samantha

-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Yes, only teasing...  Sort of

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Don't pay any attention to him.  He's kidding.  Eric?  You're kidding,
right???  Eric???

Seriously though, I'd disable that service.  It's part of my standard
build procedures for all servers (there is no reason that you need to
send popup messages to/from servers) and it does not affect anything
else.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:55 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS





How? 


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Because you have been own3d by 31137 hax0rs.


Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Why is your messenger service running?  You can safely disable it. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:41 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


Thanks, 

I was worried, because I received a number of messenger pop-ups on that
server, and it is behind a firewall and no-one should be able to do
that, then I bumped on to that file... 

Kim

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Those are temp files. They should be deleted by the store at some point
during normal processing.


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IFS


Help, 

Under the folder mdbdata there is suddenly a .IFS file, can anyone tell
me what it is/does, and how it got there? 

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RE: IFS

2003-12-16 Thread Kim Schotanus
I already did :-)
Kim


-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 17:00
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Thanks everyone.  This was a great string.  Very useful.

I will be disabling the messenger service on all server too.

Thanks again.

Samantha

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


What do you mean?  Do you send popup messages as alerts?  Even the
Monitoring notifications from Exchange send out e-mail alerts (though
one could argue the usefulness of that feature) or scripts (which
require an executable to be specified).  Neither one uses the Messenger
service, though I suppose you could configure your script to use that. I
would say that it is best to not have your Exchange server monitoring
itself.  Put a monitoring package on a server with the SMTP service
installed and use that to send out your alerts. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:46 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


If you disable the messenger service, won't that hinder sending Alerts
if you use them?  

Samantha

-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Yes, only teasing...  Sort of

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Don't pay any attention to him.  He's kidding.  Eric?  You're kidding,
right???  Eric???

Seriously though, I'd disable that service.  It's part of my standard
build procedures for all servers (there is no reason that you need to
send popup messages to/from servers) and it does not affect anything
else.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:55 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS





How? 


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Because you have been own3d by 31137 hax0rs.


Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Why is your messenger service running?  You can safely disable it. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:41 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


Thanks, 

I was worried, because I received a number of messenger pop-ups on that
server, and it is behind a firewall and no-one should be able to do
that, then I bumped on to that file... 

Kim

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Those are temp files. They should be deleted by the store at some point
during normal processing.


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IFS


Help, 

Under the folder mdbdata there is suddenly a .IFS file, can anyone tell
me what it is/does, and how it got there? 

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RE: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K

2003-12-16 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
SRS uses X.400, in its own way, right?

-Original Message-
From: Davinder Gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K

Yes, it is lot more resilient and robust than other connectors.




 -Original Message-
From:   Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K

Actually, it has a lot of advantages - in Exchange 5.5, that is.

Roger
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Bowles, John (OIG/OMP) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:17 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K
> 
> 
> Yes, but what reasoning would you have for just using an 
> X.400 connector?  Because it has a lot of limitations that's 
> why I ask.
> 
> _
> John Bowles
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> OIG/HHS
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
> Davinder Gupta
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:15 AM
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> Subject: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K
> 
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> Can an Exchange 5.5 connector (x.400) in one exchange site 
> talk to another
> connector (x.400) connector in Exchange 2K?
> 
> Thanks
> Davinder
> 
> 
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RE: Priv.edb

2003-12-16 Thread David
Its not a large system and as i say its running SBS 2000. So, i will leave
of circular logging then. Its just i've always dealt with 5.5 servers and
that's how i had it there.
The weird thing is when i check the setup of Exchange 2000 i see that on
the C:\exchsrvr\mdbdata\
*.log files
Pub1.edb = 16mb (not much usage made of Public folders)

Howerver, this is what i find wierd, in the same place i have another
pub1 = 14mb and is specified as an html doc??

I see the same for my Priv1.edb database
E:\exchsrvr\
priv1.edb = 2.15 GB
priv1 = 7.32 GB (shows its an html document)
no log files can be seen? 

Is this right, should i have a 7.32 Gb priv1 html doc sat next to my
priv1.edb file

anyone shed some light on this? I just inherited the box :(

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RE: Priv.edb

2003-12-16 Thread David, Andy
Those "html" files are your .stm files. Leave them be!
 

-Original Message-
From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv.edb

Its not a large system and as i say its running SBS 2000. So, i will leave
of circular logging then. Its just i've always dealt with 5.5 servers and
that's how i had it there.
The weird thing is when i check the setup of Exchange 2000 i see that on the
C:\exchsrvr\mdbdata\ *.log files Pub1.edb = 16mb (not much usage made of
Public folders)

Howerver, this is what i find wierd, in the same place i have another
pub1 = 14mb and is specified as an html doc??

I see the same for my Priv1.edb database E:\exchsrvr\ priv1.edb = 2.15 GB
priv1 = 7.32 GB (shows its an html document)
no log files can be seen? 

Is this right, should i have a 7.32 Gb priv1 html doc sat next to my
priv1.edb file

anyone shed some light on this? I just inherited the box :(

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RE: Priv.edb

2003-12-16 Thread Ely, Don
Damn, I deleted mine and emptied the recycle bin; I have no backups.  What
should I do now? 

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv.edb

Those "html" files are your .stm files. Leave them be!
 

-Original Message-
From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv.edb

Its not a large system and as i say its running SBS 2000. So, i will leave
of circular logging then. Its just i've always dealt with 5.5 servers and
that's how i had it there.
The weird thing is when i check the setup of Exchange 2000 i see that on the
C:\exchsrvr\mdbdata\ *.log files Pub1.edb = 16mb (not much usage made of
Public folders)

Howerver, this is what i find wierd, in the same place i have another
pub1 = 14mb and is specified as an html doc??

I see the same for my Priv1.edb database E:\exchsrvr\ priv1.edb = 2.15 GB
priv1 = 7.32 GB (shows its an html document)
no log files can be seen? 

Is this right, should i have a 7.32 Gb priv1 html doc sat next to my
priv1.edb file

anyone shed some light on this? I just inherited the box :(

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RE: Priv.edb

2003-12-16 Thread Martin Blackstone
Update your resume 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv.edb

Damn, I deleted mine and emptied the recycle bin; I have no backups.  What
should I do now? 

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv.edb

Those "html" files are your .stm files. Leave them be!
 

-Original Message-
From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv.edb

Its not a large system and as i say its running SBS 2000. So, i will leave
of circular logging then. Its just i've always dealt with 5.5 servers and
that's how i had it there.
The weird thing is when i check the setup of Exchange 2000 i see that on the
C:\exchsrvr\mdbdata\ *.log files Pub1.edb = 16mb (not much usage made of
Public folders)

Howerver, this is what i find wierd, in the same place i have another
pub1 = 14mb and is specified as an html doc??

I see the same for my Priv1.edb database E:\exchsrvr\ priv1.edb = 2.15 GB
priv1 = 7.32 GB (shows its an html document)
no log files can be seen? 

Is this right, should i have a 7.32 Gb priv1 html doc sat next to my
priv1.edb file

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RE: Priv.edb

2003-12-16 Thread Robert Moir
*drinks beer*


> -Original Message-
> From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 16 December 2003 16:16
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Priv.edb
> 
> 
> Damn, I deleted mine and emptied the recycle bin; I have no 
> backups.  What should I do now? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:14 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Priv.edb
> 
> Those "html" files are your .stm files. Leave them be!
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:09 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Priv.edb
> 
> Its not a large system and as i say its running SBS 2000. So, 
> i will leave of circular logging then. Its just i've always 
> dealt with 5.5 servers and that's how i had it there. The 
> weird thing is when i check the setup of Exchange 2000 i see 
> that on the C:\exchsrvr\mdbdata\ *.log files Pub1.edb = 16mb 
> (not much usage made of Public folders)
> 
> Howerver, this is what i find wierd, in the same place i have 
> another pub1 = 14mb and is specified as an html doc??
> 
> I see the same for my Priv1.edb database E:\exchsrvr\ 
> priv1.edb = 2.15 GB
> priv1 = 7.32 GB (shows its an html document)
> no log files can be seen? 
> 
> Is this right, should i have a 7.32 Gb priv1 html doc sat 
> next to my priv1.edb file
> 
> anyone shed some light on this? I just inherited the box :(
> 
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RE: Priv.edb

2003-12-16 Thread Eric Fretz
Do'h!


Eric Fretz

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-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv.edb


Update your resume 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv.edb

Damn, I deleted mine and emptied the recycle bin; I have no backups.  What
should I do now? 

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv.edb

Those "html" files are your .stm files. Leave them be!
 

-Original Message-
From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv.edb

Its not a large system and as i say its running SBS 2000. So, i will leave
of circular logging then. Its just i've always dealt with 5.5 servers and
that's how i had it there. The weird thing is when i check the setup of
Exchange 2000 i see that on the C:\exchsrvr\mdbdata\ *.log files Pub1.edb =
16mb (not much usage made of Public folders)

Howerver, this is what i find wierd, in the same place i have another pub1 =
14mb and is specified as an html doc??

I see the same for my Priv1.edb database E:\exchsrvr\ priv1.edb = 2.15 GB
priv1 = 7.32 GB (shows its an html document)
no log files can be seen? 

Is this right, should i have a 7.32 Gb priv1 html doc sat next to my
priv1.edb file

anyone shed some light on this? I just inherited the box :(

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RE: Priv.edb

2003-12-16 Thread Ely, Don
H, will that get these files back? 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv.edb

Update your resume 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ely, Don
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv.edb

Damn, I deleted mine and emptied the recycle bin; I have no backups.  What
should I do now? 

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv.edb

Those "html" files are your .stm files. Leave them be!
 

-Original Message-
From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv.edb

Its not a large system and as i say its running SBS 2000. So, i will leave
of circular logging then. Its just i've always dealt with 5.5 servers and
that's how i had it there.
The weird thing is when i check the setup of Exchange 2000 i see that on the
C:\exchsrvr\mdbdata\ *.log files Pub1.edb = 16mb (not much usage made of
Public folders)

Howerver, this is what i find wierd, in the same place i have another
pub1 = 14mb and is specified as an html doc??

I see the same for my Priv1.edb database E:\exchsrvr\ priv1.edb = 2.15 GB
priv1 = 7.32 GB (shows its an html document)
no log files can be seen? 

Is this right, should i have a 7.32 Gb priv1 html doc sat next to my
priv1.edb file

anyone shed some light on this? I just inherited the box :(

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RE: Priv.edb

2003-12-16 Thread Ely, Don
R U sharing? 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Priv.edb

*drinks beer*


> -Original Message-
> From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 16 December 2003 16:16
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Priv.edb
> 
> 
> Damn, I deleted mine and emptied the recycle bin; I have no backups.  
> What should I do now?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:14 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Priv.edb
> 
> Those "html" files are your .stm files. Leave them be!
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:09 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Priv.edb
> 
> Its not a large system and as i say its running SBS 2000. So, i will 
> leave of circular logging then. Its just i've always dealt with 5.5 
> servers and that's how i had it there. The weird thing is when i check 
> the setup of Exchange 2000 i see that on the C:\exchsrvr\mdbdata\ 
> *.log files Pub1.edb = 16mb (not much usage made of Public folders)
> 
> Howerver, this is what i find wierd, in the same place i have another 
> pub1 = 14mb and is specified as an html doc??
> 
> I see the same for my Priv1.edb database E:\exchsrvr\ priv1.edb = 2.15 
> GB
> priv1 = 7.32 GB (shows its an html document)
> no log files can be seen? 
> 
> Is this right, should i have a 7.32 Gb priv1 html doc sat next to my 
> priv1.edb file
> 
> anyone shed some light on this? I just inherited the box :(
> 
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Fw: Outlook 2003 and Exchange 5.5 Strange Behavior

2003-12-16 Thread Barry Kuske
My boss currently has over 230 MB worth of Mail in his mailbox.  He has
asked me to bump it to 250 MB in the Private Info. Store Limits because he
will be on vacation.  I have done that but he is still getting bounced at
230 MB.  This was working prior to the upgrade to Outlook 2003.  Has anyone
seen this?  Also Outlook 2003 accepts the mail and tries to send it even if
he is over his limit.  In Outlook 2000 it would not let you send if you were
over your limit.  It would tell you that you were over.  Outlook 2003
bounces the message on you.  Anyone know how to change this behavior and
make it act more like Outlook 2000.

 Thanks,

 Barry Kuske


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Exchange 2000 permissions error

2003-12-16 Thread Ryan Fennema
We have several users that are all of a sudden receiving this error when trying to 
open their mailbox on the server: "Unable to display the selected folder or item. You 
do not have permission to log on" while no permissions have changed and their accounts 
are not locked out.  Any ideas?

Exchange 2000 SP3
Outlook 2000 and 2002
Win2k Domain

Thanks,
Ryan

 
 
 
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RE: OWA 5.5

2003-12-16 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Very true.  The problem with this usually comes because of separate domains
with trust issues.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 5:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5

I have one for our two sites here - there's no additional configuration
necessary - as long as the OWA box has connectivity to all sites.

--
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Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Bourque Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: OWA 5.5
> 
> 
> 
> I read somewhere that it was possible to use one IIS server to front 
> multiple Exchange 5.5 servers, member of different Exchange sites.  Is 
> it true?
> 
> If yes, can you point me in the right direction on how to implement 
> this?
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> Daniel
> 
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RE: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K

2003-12-16 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Still, in Exchange 2000 you're probably just as well off with SMTP.  You
might try both and see which works best for you.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davinder Gupta
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K

Link speed/latency limitations.

Davinder



 -Original Message-
From:   Bowles, John (OIG/OMP) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K

Yes, but what reasoning would you have for just using an X.400 connector?
Because it has a lot of limitations that's why I ask.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Davinder Gupta
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K


Hi Guys,

Can an Exchange 5.5 connector (x.400) in one exchange site talk to another
connector (x.400) connector in Exchange 2K?

Thanks
Davinder




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RE: IFS

2003-12-16 Thread Alverson, Tom
If you would like to disable the messenger service (for all computers) in a
login script, just use this in a reg file:


REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Messenger]
"Start"=dword:0004 

Save that as something.reg and add this command to your login script:

start /wait regedit /s \\pdc1\netlogon\something.reg  
(change pdc1 to the name of your login server and put the REG file in the
netlogon directory)

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS

Thanks everyone.  This was a great string.  Very useful.

I will be disabling the messenger service on all server too.

Thanks again.

Samantha

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


What do you mean?  Do you send popup messages as alerts?  Even the
Monitoring notifications from Exchange send out e-mail alerts (though
one could argue the usefulness of that feature) or scripts (which
require an executable to be specified).  Neither one uses the Messenger
service, though I suppose you could configure your script to use that. I
would say that it is best to not have your Exchange server monitoring
itself.  Put a monitoring package on a server with the SMTP service
installed and use that to send out your alerts. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:46 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


If you disable the messenger service, won't that hinder sending Alerts
if you use them?  

Samantha

-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Yes, only teasing...  Sort of

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Don't pay any attention to him.  He's kidding.  Eric?  You're kidding,
right???  Eric???

Seriously though, I'd disable that service.  It's part of my standard
build procedures for all servers (there is no reason that you need to
send popup messages to/from servers) and it does not affect anything
else.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:55 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS





How? 


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Because you have been own3d by 31137 hax0rs.


Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Why is your messenger service running?  You can safely disable it. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:41 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


Thanks, 

I was worried, because I received a number of messenger pop-ups on that
server, and it is behind a firewall and no-one should be able to do
that, then I bumped on to that file... 

Kim

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Those are temp files. They should be deleted by the store at some point
during normal processing.


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IFS


Help, 

Under the folder mdbdata there is suddenly a .IFS file, can anyone tell
me what it is/does, and how it got there? 

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RE : OWA 5.5

2003-12-16 Thread Bourque Daniel

Thank you.  In our setup, there is a different Exchange 5.5 site per W2K
domains, all part of the same AD tree.  The setup will be:
 - Reverse proxy in the outside DMZ with access only to the IIS server
 - IIS server in an internal DMZ with specific access only to DC
(DNS/Authentication) and 
   Exch servers in the organisation.



-Message d'origine-
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Envoyé : 16 décembre, 2003 12:34
À : Exchange Discussions
Objet : RE: OWA 5.5


Very true.  The problem with this usually comes because of separate domains
with trust issues.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 5:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA 5.5

I have one for our two sites here - there's no additional configuration
necessary - as long as the OWA box has connectivity to all sites.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Bourque Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
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> 
> 
> 
> I read somewhere that it was possible to use one IIS server to front
> multiple Exchange 5.5 servers, member of different Exchange sites.  Is 
> it true?
> 
> If yes, can you point me in the right direction on how to implement
> this?
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> Daniel
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RE: IFS

2003-12-16 Thread Ben Winzenz
Well, shoot.  You can disable the Messenger service via Group Policy as
well.  Then, you don't have to worry about missing a server.  GPO's are
nifty that way :-) 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 1:46 PM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


If you would like to disable the messenger service (for all computers)
in a login script, just use this in a reg file:


REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Messenger]
"Start"=dword:0004 

Save that as something.reg and add this command to your login script:

start /wait regedit /s \\pdc1\netlogon\something.reg (change pdc1 to the
name of your login server and put the REG file in the netlogon
directory)

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS

Thanks everyone.  This was a great string.  Very useful.

I will be disabling the messenger service on all server too.

Thanks again.

Samantha

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


What do you mean?  Do you send popup messages as alerts?  Even the
Monitoring notifications from Exchange send out e-mail alerts (though
one could argue the usefulness of that feature) or scripts (which
require an executable to be specified).  Neither one uses the Messenger
service, though I suppose you could configure your script to use that. I
would say that it is best to not have your Exchange server monitoring
itself.  Put a monitoring package on a server with the SMTP service
installed and use that to send out your alerts. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday,
December 16, 2003 10:46 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


If you disable the messenger service, won't that hinder sending Alerts
if you use them?  

Samantha

-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Yes, only teasing...  Sort of

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
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fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Don't pay any attention to him.  He's kidding.  Eric?  You're kidding,
right???  Eric???

Seriously though, I'd disable that service.  It's part of my standard
build procedures for all servers (there is no reason that you need to
send popup messages to/from servers) and it does not affect anything
else.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:55 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS





How? 


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Because you have been own3d by 31137 hax0rs.


Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Why is your messenger service running?  You can safely disable it. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:41 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


Thanks, 

I was worried, because I received a number of messenger pop-ups on that
server, and it is behind a firewall and no-one should be able to do
that, then I bumped on to that file... 

Kim

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Those are temp files. They should be deleted by the store at some point
during normal processing.


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IFS


Help, 

Under the folder mdbdata there is suddenly a .IFS file, can anyone tell
me what it is/does, and how it got there? 

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RE: Exchange 2000 permissions error

2003-12-16 Thread David, Andy
Did they recently change their passwords?
 

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Fennema [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2000 permissions error

We have several users that are all of a sudden receiving this error when
trying to open their mailbox on the server: "Unable to display the selected
folder or item. You do not have permission to log on" while no permissions
have changed and their accounts are not locked out.  Any ideas?

Exchange 2000 SP3
Outlook 2000 and 2002
Win2k Domain

Thanks,
Ryan

 
 
 
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RE: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K

2003-12-16 Thread David, Andy
Sounds kinky.
 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K

SRS uses X.400, in its own way, right?

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Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K

Yes, it is lot more resilient and robust than other connectors.




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Sent:   Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K

Actually, it has a lot of advantages - in Exchange 5.5, that is.

Roger
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:17 AM
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> Subject: RE: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K
> 
> 
> Yes, but what reasoning would you have for just using an X.400 
> connector?  Because it has a lot of limitations that's why I ask.
> 
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> Gupta
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> Subject: Connectors in 5.5 and 2K
> 
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> Can an Exchange 5.5 connector (x.400) in one exchange site talk to 
> another connector (x.400) connector in Exchange 2K?
> 
> Thanks
> Davinder
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Diskeeper and Exchange

2003-12-16 Thread Lori Sagert
Hello All:

I would like to know if anyone has had bad/good experiences with Diskeeper
running on Exchange 5.5? I do not want to implement it on our Exchange
servers but Mgmt is pushing the issue. I would like to go to the meeting
with some ammunition why it shouldn't be implemented. Apparently my word
isn't enough...;) It might help if I can give them some concrete proof
from other Exchange Admins. Any stories out there?

TIA
Lori

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RE: Diskeeper and Exchange

2003-12-16 Thread Ben Winzenz
You mean aside from the fact that Diskeeper will not be able to defrag
the drive the databases are on because the database is an open file that
cannot be locked for exclusive use?

Other than that, there shouldn't be any problem with running Diskeeper
on the other drives.  Log files are written sequentially, so I doubt
they will be very fragmented - again not much use.  About the only drive
that could possibly benefit would be the OS drive, and frankly, it ain't
gonna change that much. 


Ben Winzenz
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-Original Message-
From: Lori Sagert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 2:57 PM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Diskeeper and Exchange
Subject: Diskeeper and Exchange


Hello All:

I would like to know if anyone has had bad/good experiences with
Diskeeper running on Exchange 5.5? I do not want to implement it on our
Exchange servers but Mgmt is pushing the issue. I would like to go to
the meeting with some ammunition why it shouldn't be implemented.
Apparently my word isn't enough...;) It might help if I can give them
some concrete proof from other Exchange Admins. Any stories out there?

TIA
Lori

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RE: Diskeeper and Exchange

2003-12-16 Thread Anthony Sollars
We run it just fine here on our exchange 5.5 & 2003 without incident. 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Diskeeper and Exchange

Hello All:

I would like to know if anyone has had bad/good experiences with Diskeeper
running on Exchange 5.5? I do not want to implement it on our Exchange
servers but Mgmt is pushing the issue. I would like to go to the meeting
with some ammunition why it shouldn't be implemented. Apparently my word
isn't enough...;) It might help if I can give them some concrete proof
from other Exchange Admins. Any stories out there?

TIA
Lori

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Re: Diskeeper and Exchange

2003-12-16 Thread Timothy Schilbach
Hi There,

  Be careful if your Infromation Store is over 4gb as things live AV and
disk keep can corrupt your exchange box. Here is what I recommend:

1.  Only run disk keeper after shutting off the exchange serverices
2.  do an offline defrag of exchange every 3 months (to get rid of chain
corruption and whatnot)
3.  Exchange defrags its database every chance it gets. I have run major
systems for months and years without defragging the HDD on NT 4.0 and Ex
5.5.

Timothy H. Schilbach
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RE: Diskeeper and Exchange

2003-12-16 Thread Eric Fretz
If the Exchange IS databases are on their own drives (AND THEY SHOULD BE!)
then the drive / array will not become fragmented because Exchange uses
online degramentation to keep the databases tidy.  Diskeeper will be useless
because the only thing that it will do is try to reassmble file fragments
into contiguous files.  This doesn't really buy you much when there are only
1 or 2 files on the whole array.

Lastly, to keep filesystem performance up, you would need to run diskkeeper
every few hours because e-mail tends to accumulate and the hourly
fragmentation would cause the disk performance to fall off soon after the
defrag pass is over with.  By allow extents in the database across the disk,
you actually wind up with much more consistent disk performance.

Eric



Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
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fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Lori Sagert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 1:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Diskeeper and Exchange


Hello All:

I would like to know if anyone has had bad/good experiences with Diskeeper
running on Exchange 5.5? I do not want to implement it on our Exchange
servers but Mgmt is pushing the issue. I would like to go to the meeting
with some ammunition why it shouldn't be implemented. Apparently my word
isn't enough...;) It might help if I can give them some concrete proof from
other Exchange Admins. Any stories out there?

TIA
Lori

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Exchange 2000 Service Account Permissions

2003-12-16 Thread Timothy Schilbach
Hi All,

  I was wondering if you all have maybe heard of a resolution for the
following problem:

  As of Exchange 2k SP2, MS has removed the ability for teh service
account
to view users email content. This means I cannot bind to a user mailbox
with
my service account for maintenance or programming realated features.

  I tried a work arround that basically took me to the properties of an
exchange store, then to the permissions. I then made a copy of the
inherited
permissions and allowed my service account full access to mailboxes in
that
store.

  I figgured that would be enough. We ll interrestingly enough, I have an
application that counts the email (read and unread items) in a users
mailbox. I have created a custom VB.Net control that I have placed on our
intranet pages that shows the user how much email is in their box and how
many new items.

  I would usually just use the account the user logged in with, but teh
intranet login is fed from a SQL database and not an NTLM login. SO I dont
have the real credentials of the user, just the mailbox alias. I figgured
if
I used the service account I could work arround the permissions issue.

 It works from some users but not others. All of our users that use this
APP
are all besed on the same server, storage group, and store.

  Does anyone know why I would get a login error for some accounts but not
all?

Timothy H. Schilbach
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RE: Diskeeper and Exchange

2003-12-16 Thread Anthony Sollars
To clarify, we only run diskeeper on the OS drives not the drives that house
the logs and/or exchange db's.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Sollars
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Diskeeper and Exchange

We run it just fine here on our exchange 5.5 & 2003 without incident. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lori Sagert
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Diskeeper and Exchange

Hello All:

I would like to know if anyone has had bad/good experiences with Diskeeper
running on Exchange 5.5? I do not want to implement it on our Exchange
servers but Mgmt is pushing the issue. I would like to go to the meeting
with some ammunition why it shouldn't be implemented. Apparently my word
isn't enough...;) It might help if I can give them some concrete proof
from other Exchange Admins. Any stories out there?

TIA
Lori

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RE: Diskeeper and Exchange

2003-12-16 Thread Ben Winzenz
That works fine, but I seriously doubt that you are gaining much from
it.  How often does your OS drive change?  Exchange tends to use
physical memory rather than the pagefile, and you don't often install
programs, or create documents and such on your Exchange server, right?
To me, that means that there ain't a heck of a lot that is getting
fragmented, even on the OS drive.  While there shouldn't be a problem
running it, why pay for a product that isn't going to gain you much,
especially when Windows 2000 and above have Diskeeper Lite included. 


Ben Winzenz
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Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 3:52 PM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Diskeeper and Exchange
Subject: RE: Diskeeper and Exchange


To clarify, we only run diskeeper on the OS drives not the drives that
house the logs and/or exchange db's.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony
Sollars
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Diskeeper and Exchange

We run it just fine here on our exchange 5.5 & 2003 without incident. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lori Sagert
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Diskeeper and Exchange

Hello All:

I would like to know if anyone has had bad/good experiences with
Diskeeper running on Exchange 5.5? I do not want to implement it on our
Exchange servers but Mgmt is pushing the issue. I would like to go to
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Apparently my word isn't enough...;) It might help if I can give them
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TIA
Lori

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RE: Diskeeper and Exchange

2003-12-16 Thread Ken Cornetet
Well, actually your exchange tracking logs, IIS logs (if you are running
OWA), and your BadMail directories actually do thrash quite a bit. 



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Winzenz
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 3:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Diskeeper and Exchange


That works fine, but I seriously doubt that you are gaining much from
it.  How often does your OS drive change?  Exchange tends to use
physical memory rather than the pagefile, and you don't often install
programs, or create documents and such on your Exchange server, right?
To me, that means that there ain't a heck of a lot that is getting
fragmented, even on the OS drive.  While there shouldn't be a problem
running it, why pay for a product that isn't going to gain you much,
especially when Windows 2000 and above have Diskeeper Lite included. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Anthony Sollars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 3:52 PM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Diskeeper and Exchange
Subject: RE: Diskeeper and Exchange


To clarify, we only run diskeeper on the OS drives not the drives that
house the logs and/or exchange db's.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony
Sollars
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Diskeeper and Exchange

We run it just fine here on our exchange 5.5 & 2003 without incident. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lori Sagert
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Diskeeper and Exchange

Hello All:

I would like to know if anyone has had bad/good experiences with
Diskeeper running on Exchange 5.5? I do not want to implement it on our
Exchange servers but Mgmt is pushing the issue. I would like to go to
the meeting with some ammunition why it shouldn't be implemented.
Apparently my word isn't enough...;) It might help if I can give them
some concrete proof from other Exchange Admins. Any stories out there?

TIA
Lori

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RE: IFS

2003-12-16 Thread Alverson, Tom
Group Policy??  That would required changing to Active Directory  This
is for us old fashioned NT4 domain people. 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 2:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS

Well, shoot.  You can disable the Messenger service via Group Policy as
well.  Then, you don't have to worry about missing a server.  GPO's are
nifty that way :-) 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, December
16, 2003 1:46 PM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


If you would like to disable the messenger service (for all computers)
in a login script, just use this in a reg file:


REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Messenger]
"Start"=dword:0004 

Save that as something.reg and add this command to your login script:

start /wait regedit /s \\pdc1\netlogon\something.reg (change pdc1 to the
name of your login server and put the REG file in the netlogon
directory)

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS

Thanks everyone.  This was a great string.  Very useful.

I will be disabling the messenger service on all server too.

Thanks again.

Samantha

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


What do you mean?  Do you send popup messages as alerts?  Even the
Monitoring notifications from Exchange send out e-mail alerts (though
one could argue the usefulness of that feature) or scripts (which
require an executable to be specified).  Neither one uses the Messenger
service, though I suppose you could configure your script to use that. I
would say that it is best to not have your Exchange server monitoring
itself.  Put a monitoring package on a server with the SMTP service
installed and use that to send out your alerts. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday,
December 16, 2003 10:46 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


If you disable the messenger service, won't that hinder sending Alerts
if you use them?  

Samantha

-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Yes, only teasing...  Sort of

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Don't pay any attention to him.  He's kidding.  Eric?  You're kidding,
right???  Eric???

Seriously though, I'd disable that service.  It's part of my standard
build procedures for all servers (there is no reason that you need to
send popup messages to/from servers) and it does not affect anything
else.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:55 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS





How? 


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Because you have been own3d by 31137 hax0rs.


Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Why is your messenger service running?  You can safely disable it. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:41 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: IFS
Subject: RE: IFS


Thanks, 

I was worried, because I received a number of messenger pop-ups on that
server, and it is behind a firewall and no-one should be able to do
that, then I bumped on to that file... 

Kim

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: dinsdag 16 december 2003 15:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IFS


Those are temp files. They should be deleted by the store at some point
during normal processing.


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IFS


Help, 

Under the folder mdbdata th

RE: Exchange 2000 Service Account Permissions

2003-12-16 Thread Wohlgemuth, Mike

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;262054

Mike


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Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 3:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2000 Service Account Permissions


Hi All,

  I was wondering if you all have maybe heard of a resolution for the
following problem:

  As of Exchange 2k SP2, MS has removed the ability for teh service
account to view users email content. This means I cannot bind to a user
mailbox with my service account for maintenance or programming realated
features.

  I tried a work arround that basically took me to the properties of an
exchange store, then to the permissions. I then made a copy of the
inherited permissions and allowed my service account full access to
mailboxes in that store.

  I figgured that would be enough. We ll interrestingly enough, I have
an application that counts the email (read and unread items) in a users
mailbox. I have created a custom VB.Net control that I have placed on
our intranet pages that shows the user how much email is in their box
and how many new items.

  I would usually just use the account the user logged in with, but teh
intranet login is fed from a SQL database and not an NTLM login. SO I
dont have the real credentials of the user, just the mailbox alias. I
figgured if I used the service account I could work arround the
permissions issue.

 It works from some users but not others. All of our users that use this
APP are all besed on the same server, storage group, and store.

  Does anyone know why I would get a login error for some accounts but
not all?

Timothy H. Schilbach
Alpha Omega Design Inc.
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RE: Exchange 2000 Service Account Permissions

2003-12-16 Thread Jason Clishe
A) Exchange 2000 doesn't have a service account. This would explain why
you can't get your service account to access a mailbox. :)

B) If you want an account to have the ability to open another users'
mailbox, grant it Send As and Receive As rights.

Jason 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy
Schilbach
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 3:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2000 Service Account Permissions

Hi All,

  I was wondering if you all have maybe heard of a resolution for the
following problem:

  As of Exchange 2k SP2, MS has removed the ability for teh service
account to view users email content. This means I cannot bind to a user
mailbox with my service account for maintenance or programming realated
features.

  I tried a work arround that basically took me to the properties of an
exchange store, then to the permissions. I then made a copy of the
inherited permissions and allowed my service account full access to
mailboxes in that store.

  I figgured that would be enough. We ll interrestingly enough, I have
an application that counts the email (read and unread items) in a users
mailbox. I have created a custom VB.Net control that I have placed on
our intranet pages that shows the user how much email is in their box
and how many new items.

  I would usually just use the account the user logged in with, but teh
intranet login is fed from a SQL database and not an NTLM login. SO I
dont have the real credentials of the user, just the mailbox alias. I
figgured if I used the service account I could work arround the
permissions issue.

 It works from some users but not others. All of our users that use this
APP are all besed on the same server, storage group, and store.

  Does anyone know why I would get a login error for some accounts but
not all?

Timothy H. Schilbach
Alpha Omega Design Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Exchange 2000 Service Account Permissions

2003-12-16 Thread Timothy Schilbach
Thank you the Q article was exactly what I was looking for.

-Timothy

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RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-16 Thread Greg Deckler
I will state this again for the 11 millionth and 1 time now. Accepting
direct gifts from third parties, especially significant gifts such as
large dollar items and titles, presents a real or perceived conflict of
interest between an IT professional's client (either the customer or
company that he or she works for) and that third party.

This is the most very basic definition of conflict of interest. One cannot
serve two masters. If you have been given something, and ESPECIALLY if it
is something significant that can be taken away, then it presents a
conflict of interest. This, from an ethical, perspective is wrong.

This is the logic and the conclusion. It is as simple as that. It is not
only what I believe but WHY I believe it. If someone can prove to me that
this argument is illogical or flawed in some way, then I would believe
something else. I am not close-minded or stubborn. Thus far, nobody has
proven this argument to be flawed in any way. A lot of personal attacks, I
have been called a wife beater, a liar and someone who starves children,
but no one has refuted this most basic argument. I have never wavered from
this argument, this has been the argument since the beginning that this
all started. This is why companies tell their employees that they must
send back gifts in excess of a certain dollar amount. This is BASIC
ETHICS.

Regardless of whether MCSE is unethical or whatever crazy argument you
want to throw at it, this is basic ethics people. If you want to change my
mind, then prove the above argument false. Simple as that.

Now, I don't bring this stuff up. All it causes is this kind of craziness.
Other people bring this stuff up. Exactly why is a mystery to me. Look at
the subject of this message thread for Christ's sake. Are you kidding me?
And it is not like I even threw in one of my whimsical Microsoft barbs. If
someone is going to bring this stuff up, I am always, ALWAYS going to
stick to this perspective and explain things the way I see them. Nobody
has proven this logic wrong in 8 years. But, hey, I'm willing to think
that someone might. There may be a flaw in there somewhere, that I do not
see.

And all this nonsense about "tone" and stating things as "my opinion" is
all crap, a waste of bytes and besides the point. People read what they
want to read in my posts, plain and simple. What is straight talk to one
person is rude to another. What is polite to one is rambling, annoying and
pointless to another. There are way too many people in this world to try
to please so I speak in my own voice. It is a matter of fact voice that
sticks to known facts and logic. If you are offended by my posts, well,
there is not much I can do. I am not going to worry over every word and
sentence for perfect structure and politeness. I simply do not have the
time.

> First of all, from a grammatical point-of-view, you only need to state that
> it is your opinion at the beginning of a paragraph or passage because it is
> fundamentally understood that follows the first phrase or sentence further
> backs up your opinion.  
> 
> It is my opinion that you are more worried about reveling in your moral and
> symantec righteousness than achieving the mental clarity to realize that
> your 1200 word marathon responses make you look like a total prat.  But that
> is just my opinion.
> 
> Disagreement is a necessary part of life and the human condition.  If we all
> got along, we'd all think the same way and life would get very dull.  You
> can disagree with someone (even with Ed) without saying they are wrong.
> This is the difference between stating a fact vs. opinion.  By saying that
> someone is wrong, you are implying that you are correct and your reasons are
> based upon fact or accepted truth.
> 
> Allrightythen!  I guess this means that we aren't due to bring this topic up
> until June.  Thanks for the comic relief, Greg!
> 
> Eric Fretz
> 
> L-3 Communications
> ComCept Division
> 2800 Discovery Blvd.
> Rockwall, TX 75032
> tel:   972.772.7501
> fax:  972.772.7510
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:50 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
> 
> 
> In my opinion, there are those with the opinion that stating anything as a
> fact and not an opinion is abrasive and rude. In my opinion, this opinion is
> absurd because it is fundamentally understood that anything that comes out
> of anyone's mouth is simply an opinion and not a fact. In my opinion, there
> may be some people with the opinion that people should not go around stating
> their opinions. But, in my opinion, everyone has opinions and it gets rather
> monotonous and boring to keep stating "in my opinion" all the time when, in
> my opinion, it should be understood that everything is an opinion.
> 
> In my opinion, people have opinions about lots of things that they consider
> facts. In my opinion, there are many that hold the opinion 

Re: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-16 Thread Bart Southworth
So, did you have a point?

(aside from "I'm right, you're wrong.  If I say it enough times, you *will*
understand"?)

- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Deckler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 21:43 PM
Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5


> I will state this again for the 11 millionth and 1 time now. Accepting
> direct gifts from third parties, especially significant gifts such as
> large dollar items and titles, presents a real or perceived conflict of
> interest between an IT professional's client (either the customer or
> company that he or she works for) and that third party.
>
> This is the most very basic definition of conflict of interest. One cannot
> serve two masters. If you have been given something, and ESPECIALLY if it
> is something significant that can be taken away, then it presents a
> conflict of interest. This, from an ethical, perspective is wrong.
>
> This is the logic and the conclusion. It is as simple as that. It is not
> only what I believe but WHY I believe it. If someone can prove to me that
> this argument is illogical or flawed in some way, then I would believe
> something else. I am not close-minded or stubborn. Thus far, nobody has
> proven this argument to be flawed in any way. A lot of personal attacks, I
> have been called a wife beater, a liar and someone who starves children,
> but no one has refuted this most basic argument. I have never wavered from
> this argument, this has been the argument since the beginning that this
> all started. This is why companies tell their employees that they must
> send back gifts in excess of a certain dollar amount. This is BASIC
> ETHICS.
>
> Regardless of whether MCSE is unethical or whatever crazy argument you
> want to throw at it, this is basic ethics people. If you want to change my
> mind, then prove the above argument false. Simple as that.
>
> Now, I don't bring this stuff up. All it causes is this kind of craziness.
> Other people bring this stuff up. Exactly why is a mystery to me. Look at
> the subject of this message thread for Christ's sake. Are you kidding me?
> And it is not like I even threw in one of my whimsical Microsoft barbs. If
> someone is going to bring this stuff up, I am always, ALWAYS going to
> stick to this perspective and explain things the way I see them. Nobody
> has proven this logic wrong in 8 years. But, hey, I'm willing to think
> that someone might. There may be a flaw in there somewhere, that I do not
> see.
>
> And all this nonsense about "tone" and stating things as "my opinion" is
> all crap, a waste of bytes and besides the point. People read what they
> want to read in my posts, plain and simple. What is straight talk to one
> person is rude to another. What is polite to one is rambling, annoying and
> pointless to another. There are way too many people in this world to try
> to please so I speak in my own voice. It is a matter of fact voice that
> sticks to known facts and logic. If you are offended by my posts, well,
> there is not much I can do. I am not going to worry over every word and
> sentence for perfect structure and politeness. I simply do not have the
> time.
>
> > First of all, from a grammatical point-of-view, you only need to state
that
> > it is your opinion at the beginning of a paragraph or passage because it
is
> > fundamentally understood that follows the first phrase or sentence
further
> > backs up your opinion.
> >
> > It is my opinion that you are more worried about reveling in your moral
and
> > symantec righteousness than achieving the mental clarity to realize that
> > your 1200 word marathon responses make you look like a total prat.  But
that
> > is just my opinion.
> >
> > Disagreement is a necessary part of life and the human condition.  If we
all
> > got along, we'd all think the same way and life would get very dull.
You
> > can disagree with someone (even with Ed) without saying they are wrong.
> > This is the difference between stating a fact vs. opinion.  By saying
that
> > someone is wrong, you are implying that you are correct and your reasons
are
> > based upon fact or accepted truth.
> >
> > Allrightythen!  I guess this means that we aren't due to bring this
topic up
> > until June.  Thanks for the comic relief, Greg!
> >
> > Eric Fretz
> >
> > L-3 Communications
> > ComCept Division
> > 2800 Discovery Blvd.
> > Rockwall, TX 75032
> > tel:   972.772.7501
> > fax:  972.772.7510
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:50 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5
> >
> >
> > In my opinion, there are those with the opinion that stating anything as
a
> > fact and not an opinion is abrasive and rude. In my opinion, this
opinion is
> > absurd because it is fundamentally understood that anything that comes
out
> > of anyone's mouth is simply an opinion an

RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-16 Thread Ben Schorr
>This is the most very basic definition of conflict of interest. One
cannot serve two masters. If you have been given something, and 
>ESPECIALLY if it is something significant that can be taken away, then
it presents a conflict of interest. This, from an ethical, 
>perspective is wrong.


The fundamental flaw in the logic is the assumption that the gift-giver
is a "master."  They are not unless the gift-receiver allows them to be.

>argument since the beginning that this all started. This is why
companies tell their employees that they must send back gifts in excess 
>of a certain dollar amount. This is BASIC ETHICS.

Some companies do.  Of course, you have yet to place a dollar amount on
the MVP award so there is no reason to think that a company would tell
their employee to return it.


-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

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RE: Duplicate (or more) meeting requests

2003-12-16 Thread Freeman, M
Do you have a Blackberry server and do the people that get duplicate
meetings have blackberries?

If so MS has a fix:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;en-us;312269

Cheers and HTH

-Original Message-
From: Adams, Kevin C. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: December 12, 2003 12:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Duplicate (or more) meeting requests


Greetings,

We recently migrated to Outlook 2002.  Some users are seeing a problem
when they receive a meeting request, a tentative meeting is added to
their calendar.  Upon accepting the meeting a second entry is added for
the same
meeting.   Has anyone else seen this problem?

Thanks much!

K


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RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5

2003-12-16 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Kindly define "significant gifts such as large dollar items and titles".
Where, exactly is your threshold?  Let's get down to specifics, Greg.

How is it a conflict of interest when it is my job to provide consulting
services surrounding Microsoft products?  It is not my job, for example, to
steer people away from Windows to Linux.

Why can one not serve two masters, particularly if the two masters'
directions are complementary?  Still, your entire point is flawed since
neither Microsoft nor the MVP program is my master, and neither ask anything
of me, period.  (I take that back--they do ask one thing, that we behave in
the forums.  If you claim that's a conflict of interest, it will further
confirm my belief that you've lost it.)  The MVP award is a "thank you", if
you will, for past service.  Not once has anyone directed me to do a single
thing.

Again, for 11,000,001st time, you have failed to adequately explain how
there is any conflict of interest between my being an MVP and what my
employer asks me to do.  Microsoft gives MVPs a modest non-monetary award
for their work doing peer support.  It's right there, disclosed in the MVP
website, as I told you before.  Personally, I provide this peer support
service on my own personal time, not my employer's, and of my own free will.
My employer pays me to perform consulting on Microsoft Exchange, Windows and
various other complementary technologies to its customers.  Most other MVPs
are either consultants or Exchange administrators.  We answer technical
questions and try to help people with their technical problems.  We do not
sell Microsoft products.  Whatever we say we believe.  Where is the conflict
of interest, pray tell?

I cannot recall ever having been encouraged to evangelize Microsoft's
products because I am an MVP.  Personally, I don't hesitate to express my
opinions about Exchange even if the good folks at Microsoft disagree with
me.  Many others who have been MVPs longer that I are even more forthcoming.
Please demonstrate exactly what the conflict of interest is and its
insidious result, Mr. Deckler.  How, exactly, has the MVP program caused
such an ethical dilemma that you must rant and rave over it?  Let's get
specific, though, because your 50,000-foot view is rather unconvincing.

For the record, my employer knows I am an MVP, knows that I receive a modest
gift of appreciation, and has no problem with this.  So my employer, which
happens to be a very ethical company, has no problem with this arrangement.
Why should you?

It is mighty judgmental of you to presume that any person is unprofessional
solely because he does not adhere to your personal standards of ethics.
Your opinion implies that because you define there to be a conflict of
interest, no reasonable person can decide for himself to the contrary.  That
is, you see yourself as the sole arbiter of professional ethics in this
field.  Clearly you believe that MVPs are unprofessional because they do not
adhere to your standards of ethics, even if those standards are undefined
and based solely upon your own simplistic idea of standards, your own
ignorance, your logical fallacies, and your personal prejudices.  As long as
you espouse such ridiculous ideas, I will call you on them.

You've been spewing this bile for eight years and you know you're right
because, to paraphrase, nobody has proven you wrong.  The real problem is
that you haven't convinced anyone other than yourself that you're right.
You are the one with the opinions.  But wait--you say you deal in facts.  In
an eariler post, you state that it should be obvious that everything you say
is your opinion.  Which is it, fact or opinion?  Well, I will argue that you
don't deal in facts, you're all about opinion, so don't go claiming it's all
about "known facts".  There isn't a single fact in your diatribe except for
those that say or imply, "I believe...".  I do agree that it's a fact that
you believe some ridiculous point.

People do read what you say in your posts, as opposed to reading what they
read.  Everyone recognizes that you are speaking with your own voice.  It's
obvious to all that you really believe what you say and have a firm
conviction.  That's how they know for certain that you're a bag of gas.

As to this thread being a waste of bytes, it has been your choice to
continue it.  It seems hypocritical that you post a complaint that everyone
else is wasting their time and bandwidth, when you yourself are guilty of
just that by posting such messages.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
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