RE: Serbian premier assassinated

[Dillon, Jeff]

...whoosh

-Original Message-
From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Serbian premier assassinated


Er yes  geology being the study of the history of the earth and its life
especially as recorded in rocks  whereas geography deals with the
description, distribution, and interaction of the diverse physical,
biological, and cultural features of the earth's surface

Or did I miss the joke ;-)

-Original Message-
From: Lum, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 12 March 2003 20:34
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Serbian premier assassinated


Get it right man, it's GEOLOGY! Sheesh sum peeple air so stoopid...

-Original Message-----
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Serbian premier assassinated


Didn't anyone here take Geometry ???

-Original Message-
From: Bernadette Gerber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 2:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Serbian premier assassinated


or George Bush with the rest of what lies south of Canada, either

-Original Message-
From: Warren Cundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Serbian premier assassinated


Besides the fact that this is way off topic, please don't confuse George
Bush with North America.

Thanks

-Warren (in Canada)


-Original Message-
From: Aamir Hanif [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 6:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Serbian premier assassinated


the only difference being that this time north america wants to attack
everyone and europe does not.

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: FW: Serbian premier assassinated


This is how the first world war started...


>From BBC newswire



Serbian premier assassinated

 
The Serbian Prime Minister, Zoran Djindjic, has been assassinated in the
capital, Belgrade...


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RE: Serbian premier assassinated

[Dillon, Jeff]

Didn't anyone here take Geometry ???

-Original Message-
From: Bernadette Gerber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 2:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Serbian premier assassinated


or George Bush with the rest of what lies south of Canada, either

-Original Message-
From: Warren Cundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Serbian premier assassinated


Besides the fact that this is way off topic, please don't confuse George
Bush with North America.

Thanks

-Warren (in Canada)


-Original Message-
From: Aamir Hanif [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 6:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Serbian premier assassinated


the only difference being that this time north america wants to attack
everyone and europe does not.

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: FW: Serbian premier assassinated


This is how the first world war started...


>From BBC newswire



Serbian premier assassinated

 
The Serbian Prime Minister, Zoran Djindjic, has been assassinated in the
capital, Belgrade...


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RE: Blackberry/Cingular down

[Dillon, Jeff]

Saw a Cingular guy on a pole...he says they can't fix w/o duct tape, and
alas, none is to be found




-Original Message-
From: Bingel, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 4:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blackberry/Cingular down


According to Cingular, the whole Mobitex network has been up and down all
day.  There is no ETA, and for some reason, they haven't issued their normal
email alerts.

-Original Message-
From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 4:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Blackberry/Cingular down

We are not getting any Blackberry messages in or out of the network right
now (this afternoon).  I called Aether and they said the problem was not on
our end.  It sounded like the problem was with Cingular, and he had no idea
when it would be fixed.

Tom

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RE: RBL's

[Dillon, Jeff]

apparently so--you and others

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:davida@;vss.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


*yawn*


-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:JDillon@;s-3.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


The Republican Imperialist Evangelical Army has just seized the US Congress,
and we're STILL sweating RBLs?

Trust me--there are bigger problems at hand than the failed "Admin
RBL-Awareness Week"

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Moir [mailto:rim@;LutonSFC.ac.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:26 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com]
> > Sent: 06 November 2002 15:47
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: RBL's
> 
> > Please don't use the McDonalds lawsuit as some type of
> > example of the legal system gone bezerk. If you actually
> > understood the history of the case, you'd find that the
> > judgment itself was well within the bounds of reason, even if
> > the monetary damages awarded appear to be a bit shocking.
> 
> It's a great example, however, of people jumping all over something
> despite not understanding it much at all, which makes it a good parable
> for computing issues.

Computing issues like say... an RBL? I applaud your amazing insight.

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RE: RBL's

[Dillon, Jeff]

The Republican Imperialist Evangelical Army has just seized the US Congress,
and we're STILL sweating RBLs?

Trust me--there are bigger problems at hand than the failed "Admin
RBL-Awareness Week"

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Moir [mailto:rim@;LutonSFC.ac.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:26 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com]
> > Sent: 06 November 2002 15:47
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: RBL's
> 
> > Please don't use the McDonalds lawsuit as some type of
> > example of the legal system gone bezerk. If you actually
> > understood the history of the case, you'd find that the
> > judgment itself was well within the bounds of reason, even if
> > the monetary damages awarded appear to be a bit shocking.
> 
> It's a great example, however, of people jumping all over something
> despite not understanding it much at all, which makes it a good parable
> for computing issues.

Computing issues like say... an RBL? I applaud your amazing insight.

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RE: rpc operations/sec

[Dillon, Jeff]

busy network
busy server at one end or the other of the RPC pipe

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bnewman@;kempersports.com]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 2:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: rpc operations/sec


 I've been troubleshooting the poor performance of my Exchange 2000sp2
server using Microsofts guide.  One of the issues I have run across is
high values of RPC Operations/sec (avg ~5.5) along with low values of RPC
Requests (avg ~0.1).  I have also been noticing RPC Num. of Slow Packets
which is causing my RPC Averaged Latency to be higher than it should be
(avg ~31).  Any ideas on what may be causing this and how to proceed are
much appreciated.

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RE: RBL's

[Dillon, Jeff]

The picture you linked is a pretty good characterization of an "RBL"...has
your final question on this list been adequately answered?


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:hummertc@;noghri.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


Goatse doesn't even phase me anymore that's not even sick. If you really
want to get sick do a search for pain4.jpg you'll enjoy it

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:bounce-exchange-97309@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Blunt, James H
(Jim)
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


GAACCCK!

Dude...

That's just plain DISTURBING!!

What's even more disturbin, is that you would know where to find a
picture like that!!!

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:hummertc@;noghri.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


The prophet of http://www.goatse.cx/hello.jpg

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:bounce-exchange-97309@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Slinger, Gary
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


Hummert, you incompetent little piece of pond scum, did it occur to you
to actually run a "real" google search, such as "rbl email definition"?
Comes up on the first page you arrogant little pillow muncher.  See? You
want to throw shit around on the list?  There's plenty of folk that can
come on out and party, you lobotomised little wanker.

For the record - I _know_ what Scharff's contribution to life the
universe and everything is.  You?  Other than being one of the current
poster children of prophylactia (along with Precht), exactly what is
your function in the messaging universe?

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:hummertc@;noghri.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 17:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


Yea I really didn't think we were talking about:
RBL ROMANTICA HOMEPAGE
RBL Romantica! ... The History of RBL Romantica. Once upon a time, on a
web page far, far away, there was a place made especially for lovers of
romance. ... 
Description: Rebel newsletters, message boards and romance links.
Category: Arts > Literature > Genres > Romance
www.geocities.com/Paris/Lights/3079/ - 14k - Cached - Similar pages 

I CHECKED GOOGLE FIRST SO I ASKED. SHOVE THAT IN YOUR SELF RIGHTEOUS ASS

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:bounce-exchange-97309@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


www.google.com?

> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:hummertc@;noghri.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:20 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: RBL's
> 
> 
> Ok what's an RBL. I'm not familiar with that term
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:bounce-exchange-97309@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:19 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: RBL's
> 
> 
> Are you going to trust (l)[EMAIL PROTECTED] to tell you who is and isn't a
> spammer? How about that psycho guy you saw at the movie rental place 
> last week? Those are just some of the wonderful people who report to 
> and maintain various RBLs. And you're going to block what may be a 
> critical sales order or customer service request based on their say 
> so?
> 
> An RBL, like communism is nice in theory. In practice, they leave more
> than a little to be desired. Once e-mail becomes more than a nice to 
> have for a business, RBLs become a potential liability. An admin who 
> knows what they are doing, combined with software which doesn't 
> completely suck might be able to use them to some level of positive 
> effect, but that'd be the exception rather than the rule.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:hummertc@;noghri.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:57 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > 
> > 
> > Ok please explain.
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:bounce-exchange-97309@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of
> Chris Scharff
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:49 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > 
> > 
> > 97.25% of mail admins are too stupid to understand what an RBL
> > actually is/does. I for one hope they continue to rely on
> 3rd parties
> > to provide the functionality, otherwise I'll likely have to
> join you
> > in phoning stupid admins to tell them why RBL $foo is costing their
> > company business.
> > 
> > --
> > Chris Scharff, MVP MCSE
> > EMS Sales Engineer
> > MessageOne
> > 512.652.4500 x-244
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams@;gettyimages.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 20

RE: Diskkeeper and Exchange- My experience

[Dillon, Jeff]

You left space for Serious Sam, I hope

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 5:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Diskkeeper and Exchange- My experience


And 4 years ago Microsoft told you running Exchange aware AV on your boxes
was a big no no. Ideal configurations and reality often have little
correlation. (Says he who just installed AD and E2K on a laptop)

> -Original Message-
> From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:01 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Diskkeeper and Exchange- My experience
> 
> 
> And that is a BIG NO NO!  Exchange Server should not be used 
> for a file server.  Microsoft will tell you nothing but 
> Exchange should be on the Server.  Except maybe AV software 
> for Exchange.
> 
> Geoff...
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:52 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Diskkeeper and Exchange- My experience
> 
> 
> Well if this server was only for exchange I'd say no.  But 
> the reality is that this server is also used as file server.  
> 
> Jim Liddil
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 4:46 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Diskkeeper and Exchange- My experience
> > 
> > 
> > Exchange offline defrags are rarely if ever necessary. Is there a 
> > compelling reason to have diskkeeper within 100 miles of the server?
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 3:07 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Diskkeeper and Exchange- My experience
> > > 
> > > 
> > > As noted before I found my store.exe at 500,000 K this 
> morning ( An
> > > exchange server for 25 people) and the CPU at 100%.  
> Restarting IS 
> > > fixed the memory
> > > usage but not the CPU usage.   So I killed DiskKeeper 7 which 
> > > I had running
> > > in "smart schedule" mode.  But it took me a few hours to
> > > figure that it was the process using all the CPU.  (It took 
> > > me a bit of time to take a clear look and not run around like 
> > > a chicken with it's head cut off.  And yes I learned a thing 
> > > or two). So then read a bit and e-mailed exec. Software. They 
> > > indicate that I should not have to exclude any files from the 
> > > DK defrag process and that they had no further info on what 
> > > could have happened. And they also indicate that I should run 
> > > an offline defrag of exchange using DK once a month or so.  
> > > Of course I asked for data to support this suggestion as it 
> > > seems many folks here never use the exchange offline defrag.
> > > 
> > > Jim Liddil
> > > 
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RE: very OT

[Dillon, Jeff]

Hooda thunk the 40 wudd be leadin' the dang deal?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 11:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: very OT


Winston Cup?

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 11:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: very OT


WC?  Water closet?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kim Schotanus
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: very OT


Hi, 
where can I find live feed of the WC?

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RE: What a lag . . .

[Dillon, Jeff]

that'll be $1.05 each and counting

-Original Message-
From: East, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 4:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: What a lag . . .


That's nothing. I have library books that have been overdue for three weeks
now.

> -Original Message-
> From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:15 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: What a lag . . .
> 
> 
> WOW . . . the posts about job hunting and Wal Mart that just 
> showed up a few
> minutes ago were posted via the website 2 days ago . . . .
> 
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RE: It's OT time

[Dillon, Jeff]

Beyond "carnivore" Tyson's origin has yet to be established -- Lewis *might*
end up looking like Gumby!

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: It's OT time


Now all we need is for Lewis to whack Tyson!  (Lewis *is* British, isn't
he?)  ;-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 07 June 2002 16:26
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: It's OT time
Subject: RE: It's OT time


Yeah we won the last one of those too, not a bad week for old blighty!

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 07 June 2002 16:00
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: It's OT time



Stop that, or I'll tie you to a chair and force you to watch Test Match
cricket...  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 07 June 2002 15:57
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: It's OT time
Subject: RE: It's OT time


Most FIFA matches seem like a lifetime.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: It's OT time


Good it was but that last ten minutes seemed like a lifetime

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 07 June 2002 15:39
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: It's OT time


.Damn good!

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Data Support Specialist
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 07 June 2002 15:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: It's OT time


Hey!  Some of us are watching those from tape, so don't spoil it!  That
said, the score for England vs Argentina was 

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Myles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: It's OT time



Sweden 2 - Nigeria 1

12.30pm (GMT) England v Argentina

C'MON ENGLAND!


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RE: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin - MS02 -025

[Dillon, Jeff]

In order to make space on your hard drive for the Sealand character set, we
regret that bound-checking of any/all input was forgone

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin -
MS02 -025


Wasn't there a bug like this in the E55 IMS as well. Long time ago?

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 12:13 PM
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Subject: Product Support Services - Microsoft Security Bulletin - MS02-025


Title: Malformed Mail Attribute can Cause Exchange 2000 to Exhaust CPU
Resources (Q320436)

Date: May 29, 2002

Software: Microsoft Exchange 2000

Impact: Denial of Service

Maximum Severity Rating: Critical

Bulletin: MS02-025

The Microsoft Security Response Center has released Microsoft Security
Bulletin MS02-025

What Is It?

The Microsoft Security Response Center has released Microsoft Security
Bulletin MS02-025 which concerns a vulnerability found in Microsoft Exchange
2000. Customers are advised to review the bulletin and test and deploy the
patch in their environments, if applicable

More information is now available at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS02-025.asp
 

If you have any questions regarding the patch or its implementation after
reading the above listed bulletin you should contact Product Support
Services in the United States at 1-866-PCSafety (1-866-727-2338).
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RE: Echo...

[Dillon, Jeff]

Nothing a little carpet couldn't fix...simply cover the list-server's
blowhole.  Shag works fastest

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Echo...


Echo


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RE: restore exchange to different hardware

[Dillon, Jeff]

title or mating call?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 2:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware


quack


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware


That will solve his problem?
http://flyingpenguinproductions.com/boards/

> -Original Message-
> From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 1:18 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware
> 
> 
> I can think of a hundred better ways to spend 245 dollars.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ryan Malayter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 2:16 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware
> 
> 
> Call Microsoft PSS... They'll walk you through it. Best $245 
> you'll ever spend.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jan Novák [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Posted At: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:08 PM
> Posted To: Exchange List
> Conversation: restore exchange to different hardware
> Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware
> Importance: High
> 
> 
> I'm sorry that I did not mentioned it in subject or message 
> body ... I'm talking about exchange 2000 on w2000 server AD 
> controller .
> 
> So there is more things to do than restoring Exchange 5.5.
> 
> So can anyone help me with excchange 2000 on w2000 AD 
> controller ? Once again thanks for any advie ...
> 
> 
> Bye, Honza Novak
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 7:01 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: restore exchange to different hardware
> 
> 
> The hardware can be different.  You just need the same O/S 
> and Exchange level (version, sp etc).  The only thing that 
> might go wrong in your case is that the previous system had a 
> multiprocessor HAL, and the new one will be single proc HAL.  
> 
> Obviously, you'll need the same server name, site name etc. etc.
> 
> See 
> http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/b
> ackuprestore.a
> sp
> 
> Serdar Soysal
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jan Novák [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:32 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: restore exchange to different hardware
> Importance: High
> 
> 
> Hello, 
> Last night our server crashed. We have all backups i think, 
> but we are not able to buy excatly same HW configuration for 
> new server (it was 2proc tyan thunder k7). We want to restore 
> uor server from backups to a different machine whis is 1 
> proc, AMD Athlon. Is it possible to restore it to that machine ? 
> 
> If yes can anyone point me to some documents describing this 
> scenario ? 
> 
> Thanks a lot for any advice 
> 
> Bye, Honza Novak
> 

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RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server

[Dillon, Jeff]

Nor one that could reliably crash several times a day.

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 5:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


And no car manufacturer has made a car yet that will not crash

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, April 25, 2002 1:19 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: scheduling automatic rebooting of server
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server


Well, Microsoft has not designed a fix yet that will cure all the
problems.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: scheduling automatic rebooting of server



Rebooting servers periodically is not a solution; it is just burying
your head in the sand and pretending everything is fine.  If that is
acceptable/expected quality of service in your environment, then I guess
it's ok.

Serdar Soysal


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RE: Sent Item not really sent?

[Dillon, Jeff]

Can you think of another way to make the "sent" folder message count be
greater than the number of actually-sent messages.  So can I.

-Original Message-
From: Mood, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sent Item not really sent?


Server 5.5 SP4 NT 4.0 SP6a
Workstations W2K SP2 Outlook 2K

A user had a message that was sent but never received by someone within the
site (same server as well).  I typically track these down as misaddressed,
deleted, delegated, or processed by a rule so it does not appear where it
would be expected. The message does appear in the users sent items with a
sent time of Wed 4/10/2002 8:10 AM but I can find it nowhere in the
recipients mailbox (I also checked deleted item recovery).  Analyzing the
message tracking logs shows this user sent 16 items for that day when his
sent items shows 17.  All messages in the users sent items have properties
that include both a general tab and a message ID tab with the exception of
this one. 

No other mail flow problems have been observed during this time and the
event logs do not show anything special during the time this message turned
to vapor.  Unfortunately, MTA logging is not turned up at all on this server
but I would think an internal transfer failure would show up.

The client machine has no other mail delivery services besides Exchange
server and about the only thing really notable on the client is that it is a
laptop that uses offline synch but the user was online during this send and
sent other messages almost immediately before and after the missing one.  

No personal folders in use at either station.

What happened to this message?  What else should I be looking at?

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RE: Full access

[Dillon, Jeff]

Just make sure the forgetful Exec's give you permission in writing.  As you
point out, they won't remember they did.  Then ponder what they'll think if
a sensitive message from their "sent" ends up in the wrong hands...THEY know
they couldn't have misclicked the recipient.

And so forth...

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Resource Mailboxes that hang on corrupt meeting requests, OOO, Executives
who forget a lot, misc.  I don't understand what the big deal is about
giving select few full access?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Why do you constantly need access? 
For what purposes? Just curious mind you.


 Original message 
>Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 14:23:59 -0400
>From: "Woodruff, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Full access  
>To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>We contantly need access to everyones mailboxes for many
purposes.  How else
>could I go about it?  We only have 5 people who are domain
admins.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:19 PM
>To: Exchange Discussions
>Subject: RE: Full access
>
>
>You ever have to give a deposition Michael?  Because you
may want to brush
>up on the logistics of that.  You are totally setting
yourself up for a
>world of hurt.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
>To: Exchange Discussions
>Subject: RE: Full access
>
>
>Why is this a bad design?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
>To: Exchange Discussions
>Subject: RE: Full access
>
>
>Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
Q258183. I'll
>skip the diatribe on what a bad design that particular
question implies.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
>> To: Exchange Discussions
>> Subject: Full access
>> 
>> 
>> What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
all PFs and 
>> Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
>
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RE: Monitoring access

[Dillon, Jeff]

You need two levels of admin password...a master that you hold, and personal
admin equivs for the jerks.  LET HIM GET SUSPICIOUS because he might stop at
that point.

-Original Message-
From: David Fortuna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Monitoring access


I have an exchange 5.5 e-mail server running on Windows NT 4.0 server.
I have a network tech that is accessing peoples mailboxes just for the
sake of snooping.  This is something I have had trouble prooving,
everytime he does it he deletes the log created in the event viewer of the
NT server.  If there was a way to recover the event viewer it would be
easy to prove.  Is there a way within Exchange to prove something like
this.
I do not want to get him suspicous by removing his rights to access
things.

Please help!!! 

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Outlook folder shortcut message counts don't reset

[Dillon, Jeff]

For years, under either Outlook 97 or 2000, I've noticed that a folder's
unread message count (which appears to the right of an Outlook folder
shortcut entry) does not consistently reset to zero (about 10% of the time)
after reading all of the messages in the folder and then deleting them.  The
count just stays at its original value until Outlook is restarted, at which
point the correct "zero" entry appears.  Has anyone else seen this, and is
there a fix?
  
Thanks!
Jeff Dillon

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RE: Tracking an Email Message

[Dillon, Jeff]

Roach-Court:  "Las cuckarachas entren, pero no pueden salir!"

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 3:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tracking an Email Message


Never. They, like cockroaches, reproduce too quickly to get them all.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981
If I could wish for my life to be perfect, it would be tempting but I would
have to decline, for life would no longer teach me anything. --Allyson Jones



-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 3:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tracking an Email Message


Next Thursday if that's ok with everyone else. How long do you think it
will take for us to finish them off?
-Chris

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dillon, Jeff
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tracking an Email Message


What's clearly criminal is the length of Damien's disclaimer.  The email
thingie is always covered in the company policy manual, the receipt of
which you attest under threat of non-employment. So when DO we start
shooting the lawyers?

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tracking an Email Message


AFAIK, as long as the company has a published and communicated policy
that says something like "we can look at your mail anytime we want, and
by agreeing to work here you also agree to this" there is nothing
criminal about it.  Besides, if it was a criminal offense as you've
suggested the vendors that supply content filtering software would go
out of business since the usage of their products would become illegal.

But, this question is best left to the company lawyers.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Whitlock, Teresa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tracking an Email Message


Were do you get the information that it is criminal?  I certainly don't
agree with it, but my understanding is that current case law (at least
in my
state) actually supports that if it is a business account the business
is who owns it.

-Original Message-
From: Damien D Keffyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Tracking an Email Message


I agree this could turn nasty on you, dont do it, make sure you have it 
in writing and signed by the management first before you even attempt
this. Trust me when it goes down and you dont have it in writing they
will 
take you with them. After all you are the tech that "advised" them this 
was possible, at least that is the way it will sound when they get 
dragged through court.

It is a criminal offence to read someone elses email without thier 
consent, or a warrant.

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>You might want to check with your legal department before continuing 
>down this alley.
>
>Regards
>
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>Data Support Analyst
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>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Exchange Newsgroups [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: 13 March 2002 00:10
>>To:   Exchange Discussions
>>Subject:  Tracking an Email Message
>>
>>I have been asked by the management to have a copy of a users 
>>incomming a

RE: Tracking an Email Message

[Dillon, Jeff]

What's clearly criminal is the length of Damien's disclaimer.  The email
thingie is always covered in the company policy manual, the receipt of which
you attest under threat of non-employment.
So when DO we start shooting the lawyers?

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tracking an Email Message


AFAIK, as long as the company has a published and communicated policy that
says something like "we can look at your mail anytime we want, and by
agreeing to work here you also agree to this" there is nothing criminal
about it.  Besides, if it was a criminal offense as you've suggested the
vendors that supply content filtering software would go out of business
since the usage of their products would become illegal.

But, this question is best left to the company lawyers.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Whitlock, Teresa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tracking an Email Message


Were do you get the information that it is criminal?  I certainly don't
agree with it, but my understanding is that current case law (at least in my
state) actually supports that if it is a business account the business is
who owns it.

-Original Message-
From: Damien D Keffyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Tracking an Email Message


I agree this could turn nasty on you, dont do it, make sure you have it 
in writing and signed by the management first before you even attempt this.
Trust me when it goes down and you dont have it in writing they will 
take you with them. After all you are the tech that "advised" them this 
was possible, at least that is the way it will sound when they get 
dragged through court.

It is a criminal offence to read someone elses email without thier 
consent, or a warrant.

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Louis Joyce wrote:

>You might want to check with your legal department before continuing
>down this alley.
>
>Regards
>
>Mr Louis Joyce
>Data Support Analyst
>BT Ignite eSolutions
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Exchange Newsgroups [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: 13 March 2002 00:10
>>To:   Exchange Discussions
>>Subject:  Tracking an Email Message
>>
>>I have been asked by the management to have a copy of a users
>>incomming and outgoing emails to be reviewed by them.  I know how to 
>>setup the incomming by forwarding but how do you do that for outgoing?  
>>Also this user is in another office who uses POP3 to retrieve their 
>>emails.
>>
>>We are using Exchange 2000 SP2.


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RE: 554 Invalid data in message

[Dillon, Jeff]

It seems that Exchange Admin Advisory #7 applies:

"As there are no worthy recipients hosted on AOL/Hotmail, only cursory
efforts shall be employed to determine causes of non-delivery."

see also: SPAM nozzle / Matrix / portal-junkies / attachment Cuisinart   

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 12:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: 554 Invalid data in message


The only address in the NDR you posted is the domain atom. Had to work
backwards from there. Since the info is already public, as I just proved by
posting it, why even bother obscuring it?

Doctor, I have a pain.
Where?
Well, I'm not going to tell you except that it's above my waist and below my
neck.

- Original Message -
From: "Whitlock, Teresa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message


> Well, I'm not sure why it's difficult if the names have been obscured
since
> the addresses are all valid and I know it's not a problem with them.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:29 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message
>
>
> I know. I hate this crap. It makes no sense. Believe me, if we want to
find
> out this info, we can. Just cough it up.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:27 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: 554 Invalid data in message
>
>
>
> Speaking further of which: it's hard to do troubleshooting when names have
> been obscured.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Whitlock, Teresa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:12 AM
> Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message
>
>
> > Sorry I wasn't clear.  It's not users in my domain, it's the Hotmail
> > or
> AOL
> > accounts that are getting bounces.
> >
> > Here is one of the bounces I had forwarded to my Hotmail account.
> >
> > Please note that when I attempt to send from my Hotmail, it's fine.
> > So
> this
> > does not seem to affect every account.
> >
> >
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Received: from mow-m25 (mow-m25.webmail.aol.com [64.12.137.2]) by
> > air-id09.mx.aol.com (v83.45) with ESMTP id MAILINID94-0315173006; Fri,
> > 15 Mar 2002 17:30:06 -0500
> > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version)
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > The original message was received at Fri, 15 Mar 2002 16:36:49 -0500
> > (EST) from root@localhost
> >
> >- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >- Transcript of session follows -
> > .. while talking to myfirewall.mydomain.com.:
> > >>> DATA
> > <<< 554 Invalid data in message
> > 554 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Service unavailable
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 9:12 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: 554 Invalid data in message
> >
> >
> > So you have users in your domain who are sending to hotmail and AOL
> accounts
> > and getting NDR's?
> >
> > Can you post the full NDR's please?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Mr Louis Joyce
> > Data Support Analyst
> > BT Ignite eSolutions
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Whitlock, Teresa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 19 March 2002 16:57
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: 554 Invalid data in message
> >
> >
> > I'm starting to get some complaints from certain AOL and Hotmail
> > accounts that email is bouncing.  I can send fine with my email, but I
> > was
> forwarded
> > some of the bounced emails with the following message in the header:
> >
> > 554 Invalid data in message
> >
> > Can anyone help point me in a good direction to try to figure out what
> > the heck is happening?
> >
> > Teresa Whitlock
> >
> >
> >
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RE: ASP error

[Dillon, Jeff]

While we're at it, who has the elusive list of "expected errors"?

-Original Message-
From: Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 1:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: ASP error


I get an error message indicvating a problem with ASP it just says
"Unexpected error" and OWA is down, any ideas as to what is causing this.

Thanks

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RE: Mail Loop at MS?

[Dillon, Jeff]

This is the same reason you find your McDonalds order sitting on the
pavement by the pickup window -- those pesky timers! 

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mail Loop at MS?


Actually, I will say that if you call in with a difficult issue, there are
times when they get pissy with you because the ticket is open too long
(regardless of resolution).

I had a ticket open from 10/18 - the issue was absolutely NOT resolved, and
by 12/15 the PSS people I was dealing with were wanting to close the ticket
at the end of each call.  "Well, you are still having the problem. but
we've done alot (and it might magically go away by tomorrow) so can we close
the ticket now?  It's been open for two months.  We want to close the
ticket."  

When we paid someone from MS to come in and look at it, the PSS manager I
had been working with closed the ticket (without actually asking me) and
opened a new one because "the ticket had been open for so long".   (that
just added to the mess.)

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Mail Loop at MS?


I just retired from MS after eight years in support. I know what I'm talking
about.

You called in with a specific issue. As long as you're not presenting a
laundry list of issues that case is not closed until that specific issue is
resolved. That it may need to go to another group is irrelevant.



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RE: Mail Loop at MS? - getting a bit off topic, but...

[Dillon, Jeff]

Software mirrored drive failures usually result in a blue screen.  The fix
is to repair the faulty drive.  Not a DC or ADS issue, but clearly something
that should have been fixed long ago.  At $245/pop, its probably a great
revenue-generator.


-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Pinquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mail Loop at MS? - getting a bit off topic, but...



..since many of us call pss from time to time - there was this time when
i was attempting to add another DC to my network, and while working on
the ADS-related issue, the Server blue screened on a boot.  I was
transferred to a hardware guy, who told me to do what i suspected, (boot
w/ a floppy pointing to the mirror) and continued to work on the DS
issue.  He specifically said he wouldn't help with the blue screen issue
unless it was another case.  Maybe this guy was lazy, I dunno. By the
way, I'm not attacking PSS - I've had a number of terrific experiences
with them under stressful situations.
Jeremy

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Mail Loop at MS?


I just retired from MS after eight years in support. I know what I'm
talking
about.

You called in with a specific issue. As long as you're not presenting a
laundry list of issues that case is not closed until that specific issue
is
resolved. That it may need to go to another group is irrelevant.

- Original Message -
From: "Jeremy Pinquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:58 PM
Subject: RE: Mail Loop at MS?


nope, i've tried to finagle them before - they're pretty specific about
what they'll fix on an issue. Generally if they have to transfer you to
another group, unless the problem is directly related, they'll not
really help you out. ymmv i suppose.
jeremy

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Mail Loop at MS?


Why another 245 quatloos? The case is open until _you_ say it's fixed.

- Original Message -
From: "Jeremy Pinquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: Mail Loop at MS?


I had the same thing during a support call earlier today.  (getting a
'ghosted' 5.5 server out of my 2000 environment, for all who care)
I'm still having the same problem with event id 1706 (see below)  which
i've found numerous posts in usenet asking about, and no one seems to
know anything about it. Missy even replied to one of them with a
question, but the original poster never wrote back. MS wouldn't help
without another 245 buckeroos, so i'm on my own. any help?  (Win2k SP2,
E2k SP1)

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: MSExchangeTransport
Event Category: SMTP Protocol
Event ID: 1706
Date: 3/11/2002
Time: 2:23:35 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MAILBOX
Description:
EXPS is temporarily unable to provide protocol security with
"MAIL.bergen.cc.nj.us".  "CSessionContext::OnEXPSInNegotiate" called
"HrServerNegotiateAuth" which failed with error code 0x8009030c (
N:\transmt\src\smtpsink\exps\expslib\context.cpp@1414 ).
Data:
: 0c 03 09 80   ...?

Jeremy







-Original Message-
From: Michel, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mail Loop at MS?


You've misinterpreted a sarcastic jab at a company that millions enjoy
mocking but, in my experience, provides a very reliable and stable
product
when administered with any amount of intelligence.

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Mail Loop at MS?


Since PSS has absolutely no input or administrative control over the
microsoft.com domain, including the Exchange servers, your lack of warm
fuzzies is ill-placed.

- Original Message -
From: "Michel, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:13 PM
Subject: Mail Loop at MS?


> I was attempting to send an email to a PSS engineer when I received
> the following NDR info.  To receive this NDR while attempting to
> discuss an Exchange problem this does not make one feel warm and
> fuzzy???
>
> --
> 
--
> -
> This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.
>
> Unable to deliver message to the following recipients, because the
> message was forwarded more than the maximum allowed times. This could
> indicate a mail loop.
>
>Userxxxf(name deleted to protect the engineer)@microsoft.com
>
>
> Reporting-MTA: dns;inet-hub-04.redmond.corp.microsoft.com
> Received-From-MTA: dns;inet-vrs-04.redmo

RE: Trial Version

[Dillon, Jeff]

1--what do the READMEs say about installation?
2--yes, the service packs work

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Trial Version


Hi..

Can anyone help me here...

I downloaded a trial version of Exchange 2000 from Microsoft's website.
For some reason, I can not locate the setup file to install the software.
The download is for 6 files, I have downloaded all six and unzipped them
to a directory, for some reason, I do not see any setup.exe files, or
autorun files, or anything, just the main setup folder which does NOT
contain a setup.exe file...

Also, does Exchange SP2 work with the 120-day Evaluation software from
Microsoft's Web Site???

Does anyone have any insight on this...

Thanks.. 

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RE: Exchange memory problem

[Dillon, Jeff]

Did you peak at the Commit Charge memory usage figures prior to your service
restarts?  This may help confirm that "out-of-memory" is really what's
happening.

-Original Message-
From: Kalligonis, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange memory problem


W2K SP1, Exchange 5.5 SP4 with Post SP4 IS hotfix (store.exe ver.
5.5.2654.89)

I have gotten this error twice today and once about 3 weeks ago.  It causes
users not to see and mail in any of their folders.
A restart of the services resolve the issue.

Event ID 1160
Database resource failure error Out of memory occurred in function
JTAB_BASE::EcCreateIndex while accessing the database. 

I've read Q216259 and Q195006 and they both say the resolutions were in past
service packs.
In Q195006 it says The Exchange Server 5.5 Performance Wizard (Perfwiz)
makes calculations about how much virtual memory will be used by using the
amount of physical RAM as an indicator. When 2 GB of RAM is physically
installed, Perfwiz will assume that it can allocate up to 2 GB of virtual
memory for a process. This amount of virtual memory may not be free in a
process's address space, so attempting to allocate this much virtual memory
may fail. 
So I check the virtual memory that is set.  The server has 4 GB of physical
memory and the virtual memory is set to 2000-4095MB.  It recommends 4906 but
when I try to create a page file that big it tells me it can only go up to
4095MB.  There is about 180 GB of available space on the drive I am trying
to create the page file on.
In Exch Optimizer I do not have any memory restriction set.
Has anyone else seen this problem and have a resolution?



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RE: Installing Norton Antivirus

[Dillon, Jeff]

All you card-counting blackjack players take note--Hustler Casino might be
the mother lode !!

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 5:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Installing Norton Antivirus


Okay.

Your email client wrapped the link, because it it too long.  You can do
one of a few things.  I suggest clicking on the link, then when it
errors out, just select the second half and paste it on the end of it.
You can also configure your email client to not wrap.

Actually, a better suggestion is to go to www.symantec.com.  Click
"service and support".  Click on "I am an enterprise user".  It will ask
you what product you're running.  Tell it Norton Antivirus for Microsoft
Exchange 2.x.  [BOOKMARK THIS PAGE, lots of good stuff]  Now scroll down
to "solve a technical issue" and click on "knowledge base".  Now enter
the full text of your error message.  The first hit is your answer.  



> -Original Message-
> From: Julian Risnoveanu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Posted At: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 04:11 PM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: Installing Norton Antivirus
> Subject: RE: Installing Norton Antivirus
> 
> 
> That's the first time I heard about "wrapped hyperlink" and 
> you are right those exams will not help you that much without 
> hands on experience. I can go as far as ...pfdocs/, might 
> sound stupid but can you be more explicit?
> 
> Julian Risnoveanu, MCSE+Internet
> M.I.S. Director Hustler Casino
> Tel:  (310) 630-8889
> Cell: (310) 864-5721
> Fax: (310) 515-0293
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:54 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Installing Norton Antivirus
> 
> 
> I have never been to an exam cram session, but check your 
> MCSE+I notes for "wrapped hyperlink".
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Julian Risnoveanu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Posted At: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 03:51 PM
> > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> > Conversation: Installing Norton Antivirus
> > Subject: RE: Installing Norton Antivirus
> > 
> > 
> > I can not open the page you just sent to me and I tried search 
> > 19990714141, but no answer. Also I tried 93448 still no 
> results. Can 
> > you double check that address. Thank you
> > 
> > Julian Risnoveanu, MCSE+Internet
> > M.I.S. Director Hustler Casino
> > Tel:  (310) 630-8889
> > Cell: (310) 864-5721
> > Fax: (310) 515-0293
> > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 12:20 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Installing Norton Antivirus
> > 
> > 
> > Jeez, or even type the error message into their knowledge base (at 
> > symantec.com of all places) which gives you an immediate hit on an 
> > article entitled, strangely enough,
> > "Error: "Unable to create mailbox. DAPI or memory error" when
> > installing Norton AntiVirus for Microsoft Exchange" 
> > http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ent-security.nsf/pfdocs/1
> > 9990714141
> > 93448
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Posted At: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 01:54 PM
> > > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> > > Conversation: Installing Norton Antivirus
> > > Subject: RE: Installing Norton Antivirus
> > > 
> > > 
> > > And call Symantec.
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:54 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Installing Norton Antivirus
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Get a bigger disk.
> > > 
> > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
> > > Tech Consultant
> > > Compaq Computer Corporation
> > > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Julian 
> > > Risnoveanu
> > > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 4:20 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Installing Norton Antivirus
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I tryed to install Norton Antivirus on Exchange 5.5 and I 
> got this 
> > > message "Unable to create mailbox DAPI or memory error" twice. 
> > > Unfortunately on C: I have only 395 MB. Does anyone have any 
> > > sugestion?
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RE: Exchange and NAS

[Dillon, Jeff]

That'd be in 2nd gear, BTW...

-Original Message-
From: Rocky Stefano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange and NAS


Yeah sure but you can only do 55 on the highway anyways :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Soysal, Serdar
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange and NAS


Has anyone read Motor Trend's last issue.  They're comparing a Geo Metro
with a Porsche 911 Twin Turbo.

S.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 10:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange and NAS


Has anyone seen performance data on SAN vs. NAS for Exchange?



Ryan,


-Original Message-
From: Haber, David J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 9:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange and NAS

I received these from my NetApp contact this morning. I just went to technet
and searched for q317172 and q317173 and they were there. If you have any
problems I can send you a copy of these articles.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 6:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange and NAS

Are these available publicly yet?


-Original Message-
From: Haber, David J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 5:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange and NAS


Looks like Microsoft is finally supporting Exchange 5.5 and 2000 on network
attached storage devices. See Q317172 and Q317173.

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RE: Microsoft Security Bulletin MS02-003

[Dillon, Jeff]

It means there is one more issue, or one less, depending upon your point of
view.

-Original Message-
From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Microsoft Security Bulletin MS02-003


What does this mean?

- John Q

- Original Message -
From: "Martin Blackstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 2:03 PM
Subject: FW: Microsoft Security Bulletin MS02-003


>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Microsoft
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> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 1:02 PM
> To: Martin Blackstone
> Subject: Microsoft Security Bulletin MS02-003
>
>
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> - --
> Title:  Exchange 2000 System Attendant Incorrectly Sets Remote
> Registry Permissions
> Date:   February 07, 2002
> Software:   Exchange Server 2000
> Impact: Less Secure Default Settings
> Max Risk:   Low
> Bulletin:   MS02-003
>
> Microsoft encourages customers to review the Security Bulletin at:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS02-003.asp.
> - --
>
> Issue:
> ==
> The Microsoft Exchange System Attendant is one of the core services in
> Microsoft Exchange. It performs a variety of functions related to the
> on-going maintenance of the Exchange system. To allow remote
administration
> of an Exchange Server using the Exchange System Manager Microsoft
Management
> Console (MMC) snap in, the System Attendant makes changes to the
permissions
> on the Windows Registry to allow Exchange Administrators to remotely
update
> configuration settings stored in the Registry.
>
> There is a flaw in how the System Attendant makes these Registry
> configuration changes. This flaw could allow an unprivileged user to
> remotely access configuration information on the server. Specifically,
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> flaw inappropriately gives the "Everyone" group privileges to the WinReg
> key. This key controls the ability of users and groups to remotely connect
> to the Registry. By default, only Administrators are given the ability to
> remotely connect to the Registry, by granting permissions on this key.
>
> The flaw does not grant any abilities beyond the ability to connect
> remotely. However, an attacker's ability to make changes to the Registry
> once they have successfully connected would be dictated by the permissions
> on the specific keys within the Registry itself. Thus, while this
> vulnerability does not itself give an attacker the ability to change
> Registry settings, it could be used in conjunction with inappropriately
> permissive registry settings to gain access to, and make changes to a
> systems Registry.
>
>
> Mitigating Factors:
> 
>  - The vulnerability only grants the ability to connect to the
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>the Registry.
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>  - An attacker's ability to connect to the Registry remotely
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>system. Firewalling best practices recommends closing the ports
>that NetBIOS and Direct Host uses (tcp ports 139 and 445)
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> Risk Rating:
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>  - Intranet systems: Low
>  - Client systems: None
>
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RE: synchronizing OWA with OST or PST

[Dillon, Jeff]

Well, they're now in "bug-fix mode" as you've read, so there's a general
moratorium on desired feature updates as well as the more numerous "you want
this--trust us" stuff.  Probably worth the wait

-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 1:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: synchronizing OWA with OST or PST


Yes, it works well.  That was never the point.  But, just like a MAPI
session, you should be able to do a synch while in browse mode on OWA.  

I don't get it.  Why are you guys arguing in favor of keeping a small and
extremely useful feature out of the product?  Is it a "we're tough, we can
take it" sort of thing, or what?

Or maybe it is that you've bought into the view that small machines should
only be used as companions to "real" machines.   Sheesh, I thought that
attitude died back in the 80's when the mainframe crowd tried to convince
everyone that OV, HP Desk and All-In-1 were the "real" workgroup messaging
systems, and that LAN mail should be relegated to simple departmental
messaging only tasks.

It's amazing.  The PC guys have grown up to become the dinosaurs that they
displaced.



-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 3:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: synchronizing OWA with OST or PST


Actually, although it is quite small and requires you to move around the
screen a lot, I just did what Serdar suggested.  Threw an Ethernet card in
my iPaq and went straight to the OWA...logged in and it worked like a charm!

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: synchronizing OWA with OST or PST



What I'm trying to say is that currently the technology is available to
"access my data when I am not at my desk".  As long as you have a wireless
modem in your PDA, you can 

A. Browse to OWA.
B. Connect directly to Exchange via POP3.

So, from the PDAs you can access your data.  If they already have IMAP, then
you can pick and choose what you want to download to your PDA when you're on
the road.  Then when you're back on the network you can simply synch your
PDA again.

If you have your OWA available on the Internet, then you can "access your
data" even from a kiosk in an airport.

All I'm saying is there is no need to force a web front end to synchronize
with an offline copy of your mailbox when you can directly connect to the
back-end database.  


S.

PS: These are my personal views.  If you want the official position of Kmart
on the subject, you'll need to contact our Corporate Communications, I am
not authorized to talk about that.  What they think at Wal-mart or Target or
any other company doesn't have any relevance to the discussion here.  

Countering the argument by saying "you're wrong because your company is in
bad shape" is quite childish.




-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 1:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: synchronizing OWA with OST or PST


You should be able to synch what you can see, if synching makes sense.

But, the problem goes deeper than that.  Both OWA and PDA's are about the
exact same general problem set.  That is, "how do I get access to my data
when I am not at my desk?"  To suggest that OWA should not provide good
service to PDA clients is to condemn the product as having no future.  I
don't think that any of us want that.

What do you think the view would be over at Wal-Mart of Target?

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: synchronizing OWA with OST or PST


Well, I have to disagree.  OWA is designed to be web-based mail that can be
accessed from anywhere.  OSTs/PSTs and such are chained to a specific
desktop which defeats the purpose of using OWA.  Plus, if you had OWA
synching with stuff, you wouldn't be getting around the OST synchronization
problems.  You'll just be tranporting your problems to a different platform.

If you can set up the pocket PC to be an IMAP client, you would be able to
achieve what you described.  I don't have a pocket PC so I can't test if
this can be done or not [1].

S.

[1] Help a poor admin out.  Donate to "iPaq for Serdar" fund today!



-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: synchronizing OWA with OST or PST


No.  This is a significant and long standing deficiency in OWA, and probably
an entrepreneurial opportunity similar to the one that ASL (now a part of
Extended Systems) worked on.

One could do it two ways - stupidly or neatly.  The stupid way would be to
pull the data from the OWA U/I.  The neat way would be to build an extension
to the OWA server 

RE: Blocking spam

[Dillon, Jeff]

Or "Just $" -- but since contrived exceptions prove the rule, you've been
selected to receive this complete antiSPAM system and AD design assignment
for just $19.95!!!

xxxoooxxx,
Your boss 

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blocking spam


Something like:

Congratulations!!! You've been selected by our steering committee to handle
our AD design and implementation. Our selection was not based just on the
$$$'s you will save us, but due to your experience and understanding. We
look forward to working with you.

(Still can't figure out how to work XXX in there)

> -----Original Message-
> From: Dillon, Jeff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:25 AM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: Blocking spam
> 
> Our 98%-effective content filter is simple enough!!!
> 
> 1) First line of msg ends in !, !!, or especially !!!
> 2) "Just $"
> 3) "You've been selected"
> 4) "XXX" gets the rest
> 
> This lets through the subscribed JOD about the two soaking-wet coeds who
> rescued a 9-inch rooster from a pond--thereby keeping everyone happy.
> 
> << If this message reached you in error because YOUR content filter
> differs
> from the above, reply to www.spamusforever.ru  Include your MasterCard
> number and mother's maiden name for verification >>
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 6:32 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> 
> 
> Not a solution in my environment, unfortunately. :)  They're still going
> to
> be getting a ton of spam (from their previous indiscretions) and they'll
> still insist upon me fixing (or at least reducing) that somehow.  In our
> case the answer is content filtering and the attendant problems that go
> with
> it.
> 
> Luckily we've tuned (and continue to tune) our filters fairly well and
> catch
> very little legitimate mail in it.  I'd guess we spend maybe 15 minutes a
> day skimming through the quarantine and releasing stuff that's legit
> (deleting the rest of it).
> 
> We also don't catch all spam, of course, but we catch a lot of it.  And we
> do block more or less all of the dangerous attachment extensions.
> 
> Aloha,
> 
> -Ben-
> Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> Director of Information Services
> Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:14 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > 
> > 
> > No, you say "that sucks, you shouldn't have done that", then 
> > shake your head slowly and walk away. :)
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:19 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > 
> > 
> > Once the horse is out of the barn, though, what do you do?  
> > Make them get all new e-mail addresses?
> > 
> > -Ben-
> > Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> > Director of Information Services
> > Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> > http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:53 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I agree. It is dead on accurate.
> > > When I started here we had content filtering. And I had to 
> > do the same 
> > > thing. I slowly started turning off the filters and now the 
> > only thing 
> > > it does is extension blocking. I explained to management 
> > and my users 
> > > why this was happening to them and how they had done it to 
> > themselves 
> > > and how they should fooble their email addys if they don't 
> > want to get 
> > > on a list and everything is happy now.
> > > 
> > > Bottom line: Its about user education in my book.
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:48 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You know, 

RE: Blocking spam

[Dillon, Jeff]

Our 98%-effective content filter is simple enough!!!

1) First line of msg ends in !, !!, or especially !!!
2) "Just $"
3) "You've been selected"
4) "XXX" gets the rest

This lets through the subscribed JOD about the two soaking-wet coeds who
rescued a 9-inch rooster from a pond--thereby keeping everyone happy.

<< If this message reached you in error because YOUR content filter differs
from the above, reply to www.spamusforever.ru  Include your MasterCard
number and mother's maiden name for verification >>

-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 6:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blocking spam


Not a solution in my environment, unfortunately. :)  They're still going to
be getting a ton of spam (from their previous indiscretions) and they'll
still insist upon me fixing (or at least reducing) that somehow.  In our
case the answer is content filtering and the attendant problems that go with
it.

Luckily we've tuned (and continue to tune) our filters fairly well and catch
very little legitimate mail in it.  I'd guess we spend maybe 15 minutes a
day skimming through the quarantine and releasing stuff that's legit
(deleting the rest of it).

We also don't catch all spam, of course, but we catch a lot of it.  And we
do block more or less all of the dangerous attachment extensions.

Aloha,

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> 
> 
> No, you say "that sucks, you shouldn't have done that", then 
> shake your head slowly and walk away. :)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:19 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> 
> 
> Once the horse is out of the barn, though, what do you do?  
> Make them get all new e-mail addresses?
> 
> -Ben-
> Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> Director of Information Services
> Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:53 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > 
> > 
> > I agree. It is dead on accurate.
> > When I started here we had content filtering. And I had to 
> do the same 
> > thing. I slowly started turning off the filters and now the 
> only thing 
> > it does is extension blocking. I explained to management 
> and my users 
> > why this was happening to them and how they had done it to 
> themselves 
> > and how they should fooble their email addys if they don't 
> want to get 
> > on a list and everything is happy now.
> > 
> > Bottom line: Its about user education in my book.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:48 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > 
> > 
> > You know, this has to be the best email I've read here and have 
> > archived it for the day when my boss demands content 
> filtering on our 
> > exchange server, heh.
> > 
> > > You know, if you had been reading the list for one week, you would
> > > have seen that this very issue was discussed in at least
> > two threads.
> > > 
> > > There's nothing you can do until you show your users how
> > they actually
> > > get on people's sh!t lists.  If you can teach them how to avoid 
> > > behavior that gets them on people's sh!t lists, then and 
> only then 
> > > your spam input will decrease.
> > > 
> > > Sure, you can install something like eManager (since you
> > have ScanMail
> > > already, it's a cheap buy) but that just masks the problem.  Rest 
> > > assured that Richard Cranium in accounting will subscribe to the 
> > > cooking channel mailing list, or Jenny the Office Manager
> > will forward
> > > the "Good Luck Totem" to everybody in her address book.  At
> > that point
> > > Richard and Jenny will complain even louder when they 
> receive spam 
> > > because the content filter that YOU put in place doesn't
> > work.  Then
> > > Johnny the PHB will tell you to increase the 
> effectiveness of your 
> > > content filter or lose your job.  You'll do it and Richard
> > and Jenny
> > > will complain to Johnny that they are not receiving
> > business critical
> > > e-mails.  Then Johnny will order you to go through all blocked 
> > > messages and forward anything that is business critical.
> > Soon, you'll
> > > discover that you can't do anything else but review the 
> quarantined 
> > > messages.  You'll advise Johnny the PHB to promote Avi the
> > OfficeBoy
> > > to "Information Delivery Specialist" position where he can
> > go through
> > > all the messages so you can 

RE: Weird Error

[Dillon, Jeff]

A 2-Carat D flawless would be sufficient down-payment for 1 year of my
automated alt.clueless.boss forum.

-Original Message-
From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird Error


I understand that, but the response my boss received led him to believe he
received the ndr from our internal server.


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird Error


That is the MSN sys admin message.  They're not people you know, it's all
computers talking to each other.

-Original Message-
From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird Error


But why wouldn't it just send it to MSN, and then have the MSN Sys Admin
send me a message telling me the account doesn't exist.


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Weird Error


Because your server tried to send the mail and it failed with user unknown.
MSN thought you'd like to know.

-Original Message-
From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Weird Error


My boss sent an e-mail to a msn.com account.  but this is the error message
he received back.  Why would this becoming from my System Administrator?

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

  Subject:  
  Sent: 1/4/2002 2:06 PM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/4/2002 2:06 PM
The recipient name is not recognized
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=Finlay Fine
Jewe;l=MAIL-MO-1-020104190541Z-15960
MSEXCH:IMS:Finlay Fine Jewelry Corp.:FINLAY-NATION:MAIL-MO-1
3550 (000B09AA) 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown

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RE: fix monitor

[Dillon, Jeff]

Of course it depends on the user, and HE is responsible for determining his
ability to proceed safely.  Monitors are on the short list of computer items
where the discrete nature of the components gives some hope of a DIY repair.
I've worked on CRTs and the like for 25 years and I can assure you that you
are in more danger replacing your car battery or mowing your grass than
popping the back to look for burned fuses or components (Richard didn't say
WHAT was wrong -- often it's a fuse and nothing more).  The flyback
circuitry is massively insulated and as Ken points out elsewhere, poses no
danger when the monitor is off the A/C.  There are capacitors and traces
that are less-well insulated but they generally drain quickly when powered
down, whether you care to believe it or not.
Since monitors are a bit of an environmental disaster when it comes time to
dispose of them, it's irresponsible to just toss them in the dumpster
without making some effort at a repair. 

-Original Message-
From: Ken Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: fix monitor


Well, Depends on the User. I know how to discharge the capacitor in a safe
manner, and which Pots to tweak. But would I recommend someone on this list
Doing it not knowing their technically ability? No. Someone might be one
Hell of a Mail engineer, but be all thumbs when it comes to this type of
thing. And The Flyback should scare you. Unless of course, Getting shocked
by a few thousand volts and maybe having to take a ride in the back of an
ambulance sound like a good time to you. I've worked on CRTS for a few
years. And even though I know what I am doing with them, I am still 
Scared of what they can do. 

P.S. Unplugging the thing for a few minutes does nothing to discharge the
Capacitor.

-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: fix monitor

If you have a zero budget or zero boss, don't let the 'ole flyback
"capacitor" scare you away.  There are lotsa useful pots in there that can
fix the focus, the brightness, etc, and you can futz with the magnets if the
screen is lumpy.  Likewise, many a monitor has been resurrected by replacing
a $.25 fuse or the smelly burnt component smoldering on the board.  Unplug
the thing for a few minutes (an hour if you're paranoid--"years" won't be
necessary), use insulated tools, and borrow some rubber gloves if your hair
is already spiked.  I do agree that it is rarely worth paying for this, so
dive in

-Original Message-
From: Ken Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: fix monitor


I realize I am late to this discussion, as I have read many catapult
references, however I don't think it was addressed. I am relatively new
To the Exchange World, only a year and a half working with it. But I have
Been involved with Networking and Computers in general for the last 12
years. I got my start (as probably did everyone here) working on hardware.

Richard, I can tell you there are most certainly no user serviceable parts
In a monitor. And Opening one up can be Fatal. The Flyback Capacitor Can
hold a charge of several thousand volts for years. There is more than enough
Voltage there to severely burn you, if not kill you. Like everyone one else
Here has said, it's cheaper to buy a new one, then get an old one fixed.
Unless.You live near a High School that has a Vocational Education
Program that specializes in Electronics. These kinds of schools Will usually
Fix the equipment at no charge save for parts.

Just An idea.

Ken

Kenneth Davis
IT Manager
American Wood Moulding, LLC

"For a moment, nothing happened. 
Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen."






-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: fix monitor



for all u hardware/monitor geniuses out there do u know a good place on the
web to tell me how to open/fix a monitor?

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RE: fix monitor

[Dillon, Jeff]

If you have a zero budget or zero boss, don't let the 'ole flyback
"capacitor" scare you away.  There are lotsa useful pots in there that can
fix the focus, the brightness, etc, and you can futz with the magnets if the
screen is lumpy.  Likewise, many a monitor has been resurrected by replacing
a $.25 fuse or the smelly burnt component smoldering on the board.  Unplug
the thing for a few minutes (an hour if you're paranoid--"years" won't be
necessary), use insulated tools, and borrow some rubber gloves if your hair
is already spiked.  I do agree that it is rarely worth paying for this, so
dive in

-Original Message-
From: Ken Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: fix monitor


I realize I am late to this discussion, as I have read many catapult
references, however I don't think it was addressed. I am relatively new
To the Exchange World, only a year and a half working with it. But I have
Been involved with Networking and Computers in general for the last 12
years. I got my start (as probably did everyone here) working on hardware.

Richard, I can tell you there are most certainly no user serviceable parts
In a monitor. And Opening one up can be Fatal. The Flyback Capacitor Can
hold a charge of several thousand volts for years. There is more than enough
Voltage there to severely burn you, if not kill you. Like everyone one else
Here has said, it's cheaper to buy a new one, then get an old one fixed.
Unless.You live near a High School that has a Vocational Education
Program that specializes in Electronics. These kinds of schools Will usually
Fix the equipment at no charge save for parts.

Just An idea.

Ken

Kenneth Davis
IT Manager
American Wood Moulding, LLC

"For a moment, nothing happened. 
Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen."






-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: fix monitor



for all u hardware/monitor geniuses out there do u know a good place on the
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RE: Top Ten Statements or Phrases - Year 2001

[Dillon, Jeff]

Thought it was "I'm running IE 2.0 and Outlook 97 on Windows 3.1 and I
can't..."

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 5:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Top Ten Statements or Phrases - Year 2001


"Do you use Outlook?"

-Original Message-
From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 4:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Top Ten Statements or Phrases - Year 2001


Dear DL Members,

What were the top ten posts, statements, or phrases of Year 2001?


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
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RE: Top Ten Statements or Phrases - Year 2001

[Dillon, Jeff]

#11 -- plan ahead

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Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 4:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Top Ten Statements or Phrases - Year 2001


Dear DL Members,

What were the top ten posts, statements, or phrases of Year 2001?


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
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RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?

[Dillon, Jeff]

Easily counteracted by HHCLB [1]

[1] Here He Comes--Look Busy

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 1:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


I've mastered sleeping with my eyes open. I only wake up for the daily lunch
time Unreal Tournament slaughter.

Today I'm employing my favorite manager technique, MBWA [1]

[1] Manage By Wandering Around

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


Don't jinx it. The mangers are sleeping.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 12:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


Sure is quiet today.

e-

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RE: Attachment Nazi

[Dillon, Jeff]

   .#snd

which list was that on?

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Attachment Nazi


Ok, that's scary.  Yes, I hate allowing docs, etc.  You want to send a pic
of your kid? Zip it.  You want to send a spreadsheet? Zip it.

My proposal was .zip and .tar.  Pound Sand.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 7:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Attachment Nazi


She wants a list of what to allow, not what to block. Knowing her
personality, she's right at home.

Of course, I figure that she's upset that the list is as long as it is.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 5:26 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Attachment Nazi
> 
> 
> I suggest as a start:
> 
> Basics
> vbs;shs;js;com;bat;cmd;pif;scr;chm;VB;exe
> 
> Full List VB;ASX;ADE;ADP;BAS;BAT;BIN;CHM;CMD;COM;CPL;CRT;DLL;EXE;HIV;
> HLP;HTA;INF;INS;ISP;JS;JSE;JTD;MSC;MSI;MSP;MST;OCX;OFT;OVL;PCD;
> PIF;PL;PLX;SCR;SCT;SH;SHB;SHS;SYS;VBE;VBS;VSS;VST;VXD;WSC;WSF;WSH;
> 
> --
> Martin Tuip
> MVP Exchange
> Exchange2000 List owner
> www.exchange-mail.org
> www.sharepointserver.com
> --
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jennifer Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:28 PM
> Subject: Attachment Nazi
> 
> 
> > I will only be allowing these attachment types through our gateway
> starting
> > the end of January.
> >
> > No attachment for you!
> >
> > BMP;DOC;GIF;GZ;JPEG;JPG:HTM;HTML;MSG;PDF;PPT;RTF;TAR;TXT;XLS;Z;ZIP;
> >
> > Any comments from "The List"?  (Except for Mr. Seielstad...)
> >
> > Jennifer Baker
> > http://www.fluke.com
> > http://www.flukenetworks.com
> > "Keeping your world up and running."
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RE: Haiku Friday

[Dillon, Jeff]

Next to the morons
You will shine like a diamond
And they'll hate your guts

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


My boss is a fool
We just acquired a group
Its full of morons

-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 8:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday

Holiday luncheon
For us today at Citi
I need a few drinks.


-Original Message-
From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 8:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Haiku Friday


Exchange keeps humming
Everything is damn groovy
Livejournal awaits

Denis

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RE: Attachment Nazi

[Dillon, Jeff]

Well, you're down to 7 confirmed virus carriers.  It's a start

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Attachment Nazi


I will only be allowing these attachment types through our gateway starting
the end of January.

No attachment for you!

BMP;DOC;GIF;GZ;JPEG;JPG:HTM;HTML;MSG;PDF;PPT;RTF;TAR;TXT;XLS;Z;ZIP;

Any comments from "The List"?  (Except for Mr. Seielstad...)

Jennifer Baker
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http://www.flukenetworks.com
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RE: MS says antivirus not effective on Exchange 5.5: must buy E20 00

[Dillon, Jeff]

MS says (Q263949) and Russ repeats that MAPI-scanning has a potential hole,
but the AVAPI x.0 and shim methods don't (depending of course upon the 3rd
party shim or AVAPI process behavior).

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS says antivirus not effective on Exchange 5.5: must buy
E20 00


AFAIK none of the enhancements in AVAPI 2.0 were related to messages being
allowed to slip through, but were to expose things such as the sender and
recipient of the messages, the lack of inclusion in the 1.0 version being
deemed a shortcoming by many customers.

Even if the AVAPI in Exchange 5.5 was susceptible to letting messages slip
through (an assertion for which I have seen no evidence), Microsoft now has
stated publicly that they have no problem with AV vendors who want to
engineer an ESE shim scanning method for 5.5 and Sybari's use of just such a
technology of the past several years has proved that method to be quite
effective. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:59 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: MS says antivirus not effective on Exchange 5.5: 
> must buy E20 00
> 
> 
> As far as I can tell MS is saying no such thing. Russ is saying it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 8:59 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: MS says antivirus not effective on Exchange 5.5: 
> must buy E2000
> 
> 
> MS is now saying that even the AVAPI mode of exchange 5.5 can 
> let viruses slip through under load.  The only solution is to 
> upgrade to Exchange 2000. From NTBUGTRAQ:
> 
> 
> ==
> ==
> ===
> Message from NTBUGTRAQ mailing list shown below: 
> ==
> ==
> ===
> No real news for some, but the recent waves of mass mailers 
> have once again demonstrated how Exchange Server 5.5 plus an 
> Anti-Virus product may not do an effective job at handling 
> mass mailers. But don't blame your Anti-Virus vendor, the 
> problem comes when the Exchange Server 5.5 is put under load. 
> How much load? Nobody seems to be able to say for sure. 
> However, when under sufficient load Exchange Server 5.5 will 
> simply not notify the AV product there's a message to scan, 
> and instead pass it through to the recipient.
> 
> Prior to Exchange Server 5.5 SP3, AV Vendors used MAPI-based 
> scanning. However, Microsoft's KB article Q263949 says;
> 
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q263949
> 
> "If you select MAPI-based scanning, be aware that the 
> vendor's software may not scan all attachments because first 
> and exclusive access is not guaranteed."
> 
> SP3 introduced the Virus Scanning API 1.0, and many vendors 
> provided support for it because it was more reliable. But 
> Microsoft have acknowledged that even VSAPI 1.0 can't always 
> handle the load of an internal infection, and rather than 
> losing messages, sends them through without notifying the AV product.
> 
> Exchange Server 2000 SP1, with its VSAPI 2.0, says;
> 
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q285667
> 
> "The enhancements to the virus scanning API that are included 
> in Exchange 2000 Server SP1 represent the next step in the 
> evolution of the commitment that Microsoft has made to 
> protecting customer investment. These new features, known as 
> virus scanning API 2.0, fulfill many of the shortcomings of 
> virus scanning API 1.0."
> 
> You gotta love it, "the next step in the evolution of the 
> commitment"...;-] So the commitment is evolving to, 
> presumably eventually, actually let customers protect 
> themselves...but we're not there yet.
> 
> AV Vendors are strongly urging their customers to switch to 
> Exchange Server 2000.
> 
> Microsoft say they have no plans to make VSAPI 2.0 available 
> for Exchange Server 5.5, so to get secure, upgrade.
> 
> The number of times customers have actually been bitten by 
> this problem is unknown, suffice it to say it doesn't happen 
> often. Reports I've received indicate that the load required 
> to make Exchange Server 5.5 start missing infected messages 
> (or messages with attachments that have been indicated should 
> be stripped) comes about as a result of one, or more, 
> mass-mailers active in your internal network.
> 
> For example, someone uses a web-based mail service and opens 
> an email/attachment that invokes a mass-mailer. Once the 
> mass-mailer starts bombing the Exchange Server 5.5, depending 
> on the hardware, it can then get to a point where the load is 
> great enough to cause it to miss inbound messages.
> 
> Using the Outlook Email Security Update or Outlook 2002, both 
> of which pre

RE: System Idle Process

[Dillon, Jeff]

Waiting for the msg recall

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 11:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: System Idle Process


This has *GOT* to be a joke question, right?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

Reduce your stress; Resign as the General Manager of the Universe

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: System Idle Process

Hello all,

I noticed my email server is hung up on a process that is taking up
99% of cpu time.  The process is System idle process is it allright to end
this process without interrupting the servers performance.

Thanks 
Rich

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RE: Policing the Police...

[Dillon, Jeff]

Technologists aren't necessarily good behaviorists.

Change the password on the admin account he may be abusing (don't notify
him), and then give his personal account the permissions needed for his job
description (this you do tell him).  If he has half a clue, the mischief
will end.  The logs will tell all.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 11:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Policing the Police...


There are seldom good technological solutions to
behavioral problems.

There's no substitute for mangerial oversight.

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

--- "Ward, Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all...
> 
> I have been put in a situation where I have to
> monitor activity on my
> exchange box due to some potential dishonesty by a
> colleague.  Have any of
> you implemented any kind of logging either by user
> account or through
> Exchange itself, and if so, what things should I be
> looking for and setting
> up so that I can monitor this activity.
> 
> We run Exchange 5.5 SP4 on an NT4 SP6 box.
> 
> Any help you can offer would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Stu
> 
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RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown

[Dillon, Jeff]

turn on some perf-mon counters and see whatcha see.  be gentle with the
graphing update interval.  if you can squeeze in a server restart, you could
possibly be an instant hero.

-Original Message-
From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown


There have been absolutely no changes to any software, services or network
configs.  The only thing that I can think of is we have run into some kind
of performance barrier based on the abilities of our hardware, size of our
databases and server usage.  Can anyone confirm these theories?

Thanks
Shawn

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown


Any changes to virus software that you can trace this to?  Any new services
introduced into your Exchange environment?

-Original Message-
From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown


I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same issues as we are
having and have come up with some solutions.  Any suggestions would be very
much appreciated.

Our current setup is;

- Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA
- Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors
- 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases)
- 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1   (Transaction
Logs)
- Server is running at 100mbps full duplex.
- Pub.edb = 150mb
- Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space)
- Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled
- 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes 

Description

For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible slowdown in client
side response times on our exchange server.  The slowdown mainly happens at
peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with attachments
and at other times as well.  It sometimes can take 5-8 seconds to open an
e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting immediate response
before.  For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have also noticed a
slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail to your local
machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this response time has
decrease dramatically.  Although these slowdowns do not stop us from working
on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue and do what we
need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. 

Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated.

Regards,

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BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER
Vancouver, Canada
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RE: Tape Storage (nuke protection)

[Dillon, Jeff]

Could you give us that flight number again?  Ooops, there's someone at your
door.

-Original Message-
From: MS Exchange List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 3:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tape Storage (nuke protection)



Hello,

To Hi-jack this thread:  Does anyone now the distance your Off-Site Tapes
should be from your production site to be immune from the EMP effects of a
"suit case nuke" (say one capable of a 10 Kilo-ton blast), and exploded from
an airline 20-40K feet?  


>From Quantum 
http://www.quantum.com/NR/rdonlyres/0223zfbgjbxzcvdmecdk/dlttapemedia.pd
f

DLT tape magnetic properties:

Coercivity  (Oe) 1540
Remanence (G) 2,600

Someone care to do the math/physics that a distance X from the blast would
keep the EMP effects below 1/2 that of the Coercivity of DLT?

Thanks,
Brent

-Original Message-
From: Tristan Gayford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 6:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tape Storage


Fire-proof site every time for us. In a separate building on site for the
'keep to hand ones' and completely off-site for the rest (archives and all
that). Shelves aren't that good in a fire!!

Tris

-Original Message-
From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 16 November 2001 14:02
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: Tape Storage

Here's a somewhat off-topic question. How do you store your tapes? We
have a small network, and a lot of backup tapes. I know many of you have
larger networks than we do, so must have a sh*tpile of tapes. How do you
store them? Right now ours are just laying on a table (except for the
off-site ones). It'd be nice to have some kind of wall-mounted shelf
that allowed for some organization, yet would still keep them handy.
Does anybody have a good source?

Thanks,
Rob
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Rob Moore
Network Administrator
The Agnes Irwin School
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RE: nimda d??

[Dillon, Jeff]

Once it's up, Martin will have:
1--even more time to waste here, having attained Email Valhalla
b--reason to believe that extension blocking is the least of the issues
4--both 1 and 3

Place your bets now

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 3:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: nimda d??


Yes I am!
I keep my sKiLLs sharpened here.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Barry Patterson
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 12:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: nimda d??


LOL
I think he's working on it - right Martin?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 2:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: nimda d??


I think one of the requirements for getting your name in the FAQ is that
you actually *have* an Exchange Server...




-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 3:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: nimda d??


Yea. I want that in the FAQ.
Next to the Ed Crowley Server Move, I want the Martin Blackstone
Extension Blocking List.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Lambert
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: nimda d??


Uh huh, yep.  And many others from the list you provided.  Thanks again
for that.

Bill Lambert, Mcp, Mcse
Endoxy Healthcare
847-941-9206
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 1:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: nimda d??

We are all blocking .EXE files like we are supposed tooright?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Greatlakes,
Reebdnes
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: nimda d??


Symantec Security Response - W32.Nimda.D@mmSymantec Security Response
  http://securityresponse.symantec.com

W32.Nimda.D@mm
  Discovered on: October 29, 2001
  Last Updated on: October 29, 2001 at 07:00:35 AM PST

W32.Nimda.D@mm is an new version of W32.Nimda.A@mm that contains
bug-fixes and modifications to avoid previous anti-virus detection. This
worm is similar in functionality to W32.Nimda.A@mm. Differences include
the modification of filenames used by the worm.

  The attachment received has been changed to sample.exe
  The dropped DLL file is now httpodbc.dll
  The worm now copies itself to the Windows System directory as
csrss.exe
  instead of mmc.exe

Infected HTML files are already detected as W32.Nimda.A@mm (html)

Type: Virus, Worm
Virus Definitions: October 29, 2001
Threat Assessment:

  Wild:
  Low Damage:
  Medium Distribution:
  High

Wild:
  Number of infections: 0 - 49
  Number of sites: 0 - 2
  Geographical distribution: Low
  Threat containment: Easy
  Removal: Moderate
Damage:
  Payload:
Large scale e-mailing: Emails itself out as sample.exe
Degrades performance: May cause system slowdown
Compromises security settings: Creates open network shares
Distribution:
  Name of attachment: sample.exe (this file may not be visible)
  Shared drives: Infects open network shares
  Target of infection: Specifically attempts to infect unpatched IIS
servers



Write-up by: Eric Chien




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RE: Quick Pole: How big is your ex5.5 IS?

[Dillon, Jeff]

The girls all acknowledge you're pretty fast.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 2:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Quick Pole: How big is your ex5.5 IS?


Do too... My morning

-I just had a conference call thingie. More work : <
-Finished off my new router config then moved my old and new T1s to it
-Tried to explain over the phone to an office manager that he is getting
a DS1 and not a DSL line, that it has been installed, but no he cannot
just plug it into the router. Someone needs to come out and do that. No
I don't have time to do that today sorry
-Rebuilt a Crashed NT3.51 server, tracked down who uses it and why?
-The 3.51 server's data gets rolled into the new .net server I am
playing with. Will do that remotely from home tomorrow
-sent out my normal morning 100 emails
-and of course flirted with some of the cute single gals here.

And I was still faster then you : >.

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Quick Pole: How big is your ex5.5 IS?


I have a job
It requires me to work
You do not work

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Quick Pole: How big is your ex5.5 IS?


I am good  And much younger, there for Quicker at responding...   :
>

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 10:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Quick Pole: How big is your ex5.5 IS?


You beat me to it!  :P

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 10:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Quick Pole: How big is your ex5.5 IS?


NEVER done one... Am Much to intelligent to do such drivel.

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Hansen, Eric
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 10:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Quick Pole: How big is your ex5.5 IS?


I'm curious DOT, when was the last time you did a offline defrag and how
long did it take?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 10:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Quick Pole: How big is your ex5.5 IS?

Total IS size: 124GB
Largest mailbox 1GB
Users 1200
mailboxes  1300
No issues yet.

> --
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: Exchange Discussions
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 10:34 AM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: Quick Pole: How big is your ex5.5 IS?
> 
> IS = 14g
> Users = approx 300
> Largest mailbox = 545,793k  (and, no, it's not mine)[1]
> 
> Oh, and Jason?  Are you a size queen?  :-)
> 
> 
> [1] mine is 251,827k, after major archiving this week
> 
> -Michèle
> Immigration site:  
> Our new 2001 Miata:  
> Tiggercam:  
> -
> If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick boxing.
> -
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Kelley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 3:27 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Quick Pole: How big is your ex5.5 IS?
> 
> 
> I'm curious about the size of people's information store on exchange 
> 5.5 and the largest mailbox
> 
> Also:
> Does anybody know if issues when the IS get's really large or if a 
> single mailbox get's really large?
> 
> Total IS size: 18GB
> Largest mailbox 2GB
> No issues yet.
> 
> 
> Thanks - Jason
> 
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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

[Dillon, Jeff]

Goodbye

-Original Message-
From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Hello.

- Original Message -
From: "Martin Tuip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 17:45
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


>
> Thank you Tom :)
> You know it isn't easy to be the judge all the time, but for the two years
> the Exchange 2000 list has running now, flames have been kept to almost
nil
> :)
>
> --
> Martin Tuip
> MVP Exchange
> Exchange2000 List owner
> www.exchange-mail.org
> --
>
> 2.  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Exchange2000 [Martin tries to keep
> flames down, also with incredibly knowledgeable people]
>
>
>
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RE: Plain Text Only

[Dillon, Jeff]

You have a motherboard that is not W2K-compatible, because that's all that
is left.  The good news is that a replacement will only cost about 5% of
amount paid to you (and list members) during this troubleshooting exercise.

-Original Message-
From: Ewart, Vicki L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 2:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Plain Text Only





We'll just to give you some ideas to look at.

Things I'd check.  Not in any order.
1. Plug the video card that doesn't seem to work into another system and
see
if the card works. It might be a dead card.
Did that.  Works fine in other machines.

2. Check Ati and make sure you have the correct drivers.
(http://support.ati.com/products/pc/rageltpro/rageltpro_drivers.html)
Plug
and Play will not always install the correct driver. 
Did that. Everything is as it should be.
 
3. I'd also check to make sure that the bios is the latest version.
Find
the Make/Model of the motherboard and head over to their site.  Look for
any
bios updates for that motherboard.  If there is something messed with
bios
this will set everything back to the defaults.
Not looking forward to taking that machine apart AGAIN!

4. Make sure you're not booting into safe mode. :)
Don't be silly.

5. Look for bent pins on the monitor cable.
Monitor works fine on other machines.  Not a cable problem.

6. Take a vacation and let somebody else worry about it (SEP). ;)
I wish.

ve





> -Original Message-
> From: Ewart, Vicki L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: August 28, 2001 2:05 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Plain Text Only
> 
> 
> What OS is the on (Win9x, WinNT, Win2k)?\
> Win98SE
> 
> What are the model number for the video cards?
> ATI XPERT98
> 
> Do you know what the Motherboard make and model is?
> Sorry, without throwing the user off the unit, I couldn't 
> tell you right
> now.
> 
> Or do you guys/gals have a technician onsite that can look at this.
> That's me.  I'm it.  Told you -- we are on a shoestring these 
> days.  We
> spent all our money on upgrading to W2K server, ISA Server and E2K and
> buying 3 new servers for that deployment. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeremy Newell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:45 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Plain Text Only
> 
> 
> Just a few questions for ya.  I might be able to help narrow down the
> video
> problem.
> 
> What OS is the on (Win9x, WinNT, Win2k)?
> What are the model number for the video cards?
> Do you know what the Motherboard make and model is?
> 
> Or do you guys/gals have a technician onsite that can look at this.
> 
> Jeremy Newell
> Systems Technician
> 
> INSCRIBER TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION
> 26 Peppler Street
> Waterloo, Ontario   
> Canada, N2J 3C4
> T.519.570.9111
> F.519.570.9140 
> www.inscriber.com 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ewart, Vicki L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: August 28, 2001 1:42 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Plain Text Only
> > 
> > 
> > I've put two different ones in.  A Matrox and an ATI.  I 
> suspect it is
> > something in the BIOS, which is not something I am prepared to deal
> > with.
> > 
> > ve
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:08 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Plain Text Only
> > 
> > 
> > So if you completely wipe the disk clean. Reinstall Windows (without
> > installing anything else), you still cannot change the video mode?
> > What kind of card is it?
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> > Ewart, Vicki L.
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:15 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Plain Text Only
> > 
> > 
> > Already been done.  Didn't help.
> > 
> > ve
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:04 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Plain Text Only
> > 
> > 
> > It means wipe the drive & start over!  :0)
> > 
> > -Michèle
> > Immigration site:  
> > Our new 2001 Miata:  
> > Tiggercam:  
> > -
> > Behind every successful woman . . . is a substantial amount 
> of coffee.
> > -Stephanie Piro 
> > -
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ewart, Vicki L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 1:10 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Plain Text Only
> > 
> > 
> > If I could identify the problem, I could solve it.  All 
> HTML messages
> > come out with a black background. I've replaced the video 
> > board and the
> > monitor, but have had no luck.  The machine will not display

RE: Apologies

[Dillon, Jeff]

While it's safe to assume that dogs are trainable, network admins aren't so
neatly categorized.  Experience here says that the DOG will be less likely
to be letting you know about his vacation plans.

-Original Message-
From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 6:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Apologies


Analogy:
If your dog poops on the floor do you keep putting newspaper under his butt?
Or do you correct him?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dillon, Jeff
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 5:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Apologies


The amount of time that is magically available to scold OOO miscreants in
triplicate makes the claims of "time-wasting nuisance" ring a bit hollow,
no?

Fess up -- if it isn't spelling, lack of FAQ reading, it would just be
something...else.  OOO to the list is a dead horse, and it should be obvious
that it isn't ever going away.


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 5:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Apologies


Each reply to your silly little suggestion so far has been appropriate, in
my opinion.  Regardless, you missed my point completely.  What bothered me
was Mr. Tout's assertion that he was apologetic but we could hit the delete
key.  Translated, that reads to me like, "I'm sorry but it's your fault."

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joshua M. Folcik
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Apologies


It takes 2 minutes to make this rule, and then you never get another OOO
again.

Apply this rule after the message arrives
With Out of Office AutoReply in the subject
Move it to the Deleted Items folder

Rather than posting to this list to complain about the inconsiderate
people who send them out, make the rule.

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-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 11:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Apologies


I'd have been understanding about the OOO (I seldom reply to them), but
I'm less understanding about the half-assed apology.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason Gilbert
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 7:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Apologies


I totally understand Jon and I think others should be a bit more
understanding too.

Jason

-Original Message-
From: Jon.Tout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 7:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Apologies


As I've explained in a private message to the person below.

I had a death in the family, I didn't have time to change my OOA or
unsub from the list, please feel free to keep the shity emails flowwing,
just do it off list eh?

Jon


-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 20 August 2001 14:56
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Apologies


Sure, I'll be more than happy to take responsibility for your
laziness/sloppy administration.   Anything else you do, that I should
undo for you?  I mean, if you're a lousy driver, maybe they should close
the roads during your commute.

> -Original Message-
> From: Jon.Tout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Monday, August 20, 2001 03:04 AM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: Apologies
> Subject: Apologies
>
>
> Apologies to anyone who may have been pissed off by the Out of Office
> reply, hit the delete button next time.
>
>
>
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RE: Apologies

[Dillon, Jeff]

The amount of time that is magically available to scold OOO miscreants in
triplicate makes the claims of "time-wasting nuisance" ring a bit hollow,
no?

Fess up -- if it isn't spelling, lack of FAQ reading, it would just be
something...else.  OOO to the list is a dead horse, and it should be obvious
that it isn't ever going away.


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 5:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Apologies


Each reply to your silly little suggestion so far has been appropriate, in
my opinion.  Regardless, you missed my point completely.  What bothered me
was Mr. Tout's assertion that he was apologetic but we could hit the delete
key.  Translated, that reads to me like, "I'm sorry but it's your fault."

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joshua M. Folcik
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Apologies


It takes 2 minutes to make this rule, and then you never get another OOO
again.

Apply this rule after the message arrives
With Out of Office AutoReply in the subject
Move it to the Deleted Items folder

Rather than posting to this list to complain about the inconsiderate
people who send them out, make the rule.

-

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 11:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Apologies


I'd have been understanding about the OOO (I seldom reply to them), but
I'm less understanding about the half-assed apology.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason Gilbert
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 7:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Apologies


I totally understand Jon and I think others should be a bit more
understanding too.

Jason

-Original Message-
From: Jon.Tout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 7:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Apologies


As I've explained in a private message to the person below.

I had a death in the family, I didn't have time to change my OOA or
unsub from the list, please feel free to keep the shity emails flowwing,
just do it off list eh?

Jon


-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 20 August 2001 14:56
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Apologies


Sure, I'll be more than happy to take responsibility for your
laziness/sloppy administration.   Anything else you do, that I should
undo for you?  I mean, if you're a lousy driver, maybe they should close
the roads during your commute.

> -Original Message-
> From: Jon.Tout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Monday, August 20, 2001 03:04 AM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: Apologies
> Subject: Apologies
>
>
> Apologies to anyone who may have been pissed off by the Out of Office
> reply, hit the delete button next time.
>
>
>
> **
> ***
> DISCLAIMER
> Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and
> not necessarily the Company. This email and any files transmitted with

> it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain
> alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are
> confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. It may
> contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are
> not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering to

> the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email
> in error and that any use is strictly prohibited.
>
> If you have received this email in error please notify the IT
> department by telephone on +44 (0)117 916 8555 or via email to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], including a copy of this

> message. Please then delete this email and destroy any copies of it.
> **
> ***


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