Public Folder Traffic from SMTP sever routing to New Server In Site

[Dumke, Jane]

We recently added 3 new servers to our Ex2K, SP3 site (W2K, SP4).  We
noticed that all traffic coming through our front-end servers addressed
to public folders is being routed through one of the new servers.  The
new server has a public folder store, but none of the PFs that the
messages are addressed to have replicas on that server.  We found one
Google Groups message on this from 2002 and the guy said that Microsoft
said there was no rhyme or reason to where the messages for PFs were
routed when coming from the front-end servers.  We only have one routing
group.  The new servers are not listed in the MX records.  Anyone see
this or have an explanation for it?

Also, email sent through the front-end servers addressed to mailboxes,
is delivered directly to the home server of the recipient.

Jane Dumke 
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
 
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RE: A new post in every Public Folder, or how to force a backfill ...

[Dumke, Jane]

Catching up and wanted to put some extra "documentation" on this issue
and we found zero-help on this through Google Groups and this list when
we experienced it.

Jane Dumke 
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University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
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backfill ...



Hello,

You're catching up on List posts. :-)

I ended up dragging a message into every "un-synced" folder on the
Source server.  With a list of every "bad" PF, it was probably only a
couple seconds per folder to drag and drop.  "Backfill" then fired off
within an hour or so and everything was fine.

If we were at 9,000 PFs we might have accidentally suffered and
unrecoverable disaster on the PF store.  Especially if it was a sunny
day outside. :-)

Thank you,
Brent

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backfill ...
Subject: RE: A new post in every Public Folder, or how to force a
backfill ...


I found that the only way I could get this done on our site was to dump
a listing of the PFs and the # of items in each one for each server,
pull them up side by side in Excel and figure out which server had the
more complete copy.  Then I removed the replica off the incomplete
server, and then rereplicated.  Horrendous job with 9000+ PFs, but it
worked to get them back in sync.

Jane Dumke 
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577 



-Original Message-
From: MS Exchange List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: A new post in every Public Folder, or how to force a backfill
...



Hello,

E2K (Source & Target): SP3+September'03 Rollup, Scanmail 6.1, native
OS: w2K, SP3 + all critical fixes , native

I'm doing the Ed Crowley Server move.  I've got 400 of 1500 Public
Folders that haven't replicated completely.  It has been over 2 weeks.
One thing that seems to force a backfill on a PF is to put a new
message/post into the PF.  It then seems to figure out it's not up to
date and a backfill is kicked off that evening.

Most of these PFs do not have an Email address, and are not visible to
the Address Book.  Any tips on how to send a message to a large number
of such folders, or how to force a backfill on them?

Notes:

-Turning off virus scanning on the Public Folders a week or so ago
improved things greatly. -PFs not in sync vary between no messages to
just a couple messages off. -No size restrictions on PFs or SMTP.
-Active PFs (like this list at 40,000+ messages) sync up just fine.
-Source and Target Servers are in the same Server room, plugged into the
same Switch. -Hierarchy came across just fine.  Just message content has
problems.

I've done:

-ISINTEG and Defrag for Source PF store.
-Checked that both Public Folder Stores have "proxy addresses" set
(Q286356) -On the top level folders set "propagate settings" of
Replicas, Replication message priority, and Replication Schedule.
Replication Interval is: "always run", and Replication message priority
is: "urgent".

With logging turned up I get a lot of these:

=
Event Type: Error
Event Source:   MSExchangeIS Public Store
Event Category: Replication Errors 
Event ID:   3093
Date:   9/2/2003
Time:   7:41:51 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   EXCHANGE
Description:
Error -2147221233 reading property 0x674b0014 on object type
tbtMsgFolder from database "First Storage Group\Public Information Store
(EXCHANGE)". 
==

Thanks,
Brent


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RE: A new post in every Public Folder, or how to force a backfill ...

[Dumke, Jane]

I found that the only way I could get this done on our site was to dump
a listing of the PFs and the # of items in each one for each server,
pull them up side by side in Excel and figure out which server had the
more complete copy.  Then I removed the replica off the incomplete
server, and then rereplicated.  Horrendous job with 9000+ PFs, but it
worked to get them back in sync.

Jane Dumke 
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
 
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577 



-Original Message-
From: MS Exchange List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: A new post in every Public Folder, or how to force a backfill
...



Hello,

E2K (Source & Target): SP3+September'03 Rollup, Scanmail 6.1, native
OS: w2K, SP3 + all critical fixes , native

I'm doing the Ed Crowley Server move.  I've got 400 of 1500 Public
Folders that haven't replicated completely.  It has been over 2 weeks.
One thing that seems to force a backfill on a PF is to put a new
message/post into the PF.  It then seems to figure out it's not up to
date and a backfill is kicked off that evening.

Most of these PFs do not have an Email address, and are not visible to
the Address Book.  Any tips on how to send a message to a large number
of such folders, or how to force a backfill on them?

Notes:

-Turning off virus scanning on the Public Folders a week or so ago
improved things greatly.
-PFs not in sync vary between no messages to just a couple messages off.
-No size restrictions on PFs or SMTP.
-Active PFs (like this list at 40,000+ messages) sync up just fine.
-Source and Target Servers are in the same Server room, plugged into the
same Switch.
-Hierarchy came across just fine.  Just message content has problems.

I've done:

-ISINTEG and Defrag for Source PF store.
-Checked that both Public Folder Stores have "proxy addresses" set
(Q286356) -On the top level folders set "propagate settings" of
Replicas, Replication message priority, and Replication Schedule.
Replication Interval is: "always run", and Replication message priority
is: "urgent".

With logging turned up I get a lot of these:

=
Event Type: Error
Event Source:   MSExchangeIS Public Store
Event Category: Replication Errors 
Event ID:   3093
Date:   9/2/2003
Time:   7:41:51 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   EXCHANGE
Description:
Error -2147221233 reading property 0x674b0014 on object type
tbtMsgFolder from database "First Storage Group\Public Information Store
(EXCHANGE)". 
==

Thanks,
Brent


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RE: Users managing Distribution List membership

[Dumke, Jane]

They need the ability to Read_Members and Write_Members.

The constants for those are:
  Const WRITE_MEMBERS = "{BF9679C0-0DE6-11D0-A285-00AA003049E2}"
  Const READ_MEMBERS = "{BF9679C0-0DE6-11D0-A285-00AA003049E2}"

Jane Dumke 
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
 
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577 



-Original Message-
From: Walt Brannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Users managing Distribution List membership


Give them permission on the security tab.

Walt

> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Posted At: Sunday, July 13, 2003 5:41 PM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion
> Conversation: Users managing Distribution List membership
> Subject: Users managing Distribution List membership
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Since migrating to Exchange Server 2000 SP3 Native mode any newly
created
> mail enabled groups can't be managed by an Owner (Managed by). Q281489
has
> a "work around" but this is a little tedious as a long term solution
and
> was hoping for a better solution if anyone has one or if this might be
> fixed in the next SP.
> 
> Thanks in advanced,
> Cheers,
> Phil
> 
> 
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RE: Del Items Recovery- Public Folder failure

[Dumke, Jane]

I've found that when this happens to us (and it has several times), that
there were probably "ghost" permissions on the folder from an account
that has been removed from AD.  We've never been successful in
recovering one of those.

Jane Dumke 
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
 
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577 



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From: MS Exchange List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 4:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Del Items Recovery- Public Folder failure



Hello,

OS: W2K SP3 + Security Hot fixes
E2K SP3 + 03/03 Store Roll-up

Recovering a Public Folder with "Recover Deleted Items" results in the
error:

"Outlook was unable to recover some or all of the items in this folder.
Make sure you have the required permissions to recover items in this
folder, and try again.  If the problem persists, contact your
administrator."

Sadly, I am the Administrator.
 
This 1 PF is 3 levels down, messages in it, but no sub-folders.  The
user that deleted it has Owner rights for the folder it was deleted from
and the deleted folder itself.  As do Email Admins.  The Owner that
deleted it gets the same error I do when they try to recover it (I
turned "dumpster always on" for them).

The behavior is you can see the folder to recover, it lets you start
recovery, you can see the folder appear and messages then start to
appear in it (if you're watching from a different Outlook client), and
then right at the end you get the above error and it  vanishes from the
PF structure.  It is then in "Recover Deleted Items" again and ready for
another try.

What I've done:

-I have tested creating, deleting, and recovering other folders with
similar Rights, (and ones not similar) etc... and all works fine.

-I have run "isinteg -s ... -fix -test alltests" against the PF store.

-I have turned off Virus scanning (Trend Scanmail).

-I've searched Google Groups, and it looks like the last couple months
there are a quite a few Admins in the same boat as me.  The only happy
endings I found were one that ran isinteg, and one that just kept trying
and trying and finally it worked (feel the power of Admin).  

One thing that comes to mind is that this PF was probably created back
in the Exchange 5.5 days and was on a server upgraded in place to E2K.

Any tips?

Thanks,
Brent

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RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA

[Dumke, Jane]

Anyone in or near central Wisconsin?

Signed, 

Desperate Once Again in Stevens Point

Jane Dumke 
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577 



-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 9:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


This is a vile problem. You would be well advised to get someone, say
PSS,
to work closely with you on the issue. Of course, you already did put a
call
in to Microsoft. Time to up the ante.

If you have a TAM, start screaming at the guy that you don't want to
waste
hours on the phone with PSS when you can get the same benefits from
playing
Freecell. Holler. Scream. Demand a resolution. Tell him your boss is
threatening to cut the Premier account and you're doing what you can to
save
Microsoft on the enterprise.

Or, you could hire a consultant to swing by and check things out for
you. I
know a guy or two who might be able to help...

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
http://www.bad-managers.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dumke, Jane
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 2:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


The one that works has the ADC on it.

Jane Dumke
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577



-Original Message-
From: Dumke, Jane
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 11:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


We're still not out of the woods as I can replicate the folders to a 3rd
server (supposed to be identical to the first 2), remove the replica off
the "bad" server, and the 3rd server has the exact same folder
permissions issues as the original first server.  The 2nd server remains
good for accessing PFs.

Jane Dumke
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577



-Original Message-
From: Dumke, Jane
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 10:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Zuge, Peter
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


We use BackupExec and Trend Micro's Scanmail for Exchange.

It's not worked from Day One so I doubt the security patches caused
issues.

Interesting through, if I connect through the one PF server directly, I
have problems.  If I connect through the 2nd PF server, it's peachy.
This is a huge break through.   I could just cry! ;)

Signed,

Maybe not so Desperate in Stevens Point

Jane Dumke
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577



-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 9:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


You got anything backing up or scanning the M: Drive?

Apply any recent security patches?

Can you connect directly to the back-end server and have things work?

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
http://www.bad-managers.com

-Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dumke, Jane
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Zuge, Peter
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


Through experience we've learned that M: drive permissions are a no-no,
but that was after this was already occurring and is still occurring on
folders that we've never looked at through the M: drive.

We are using OWA as a front-end server.

I tried the http://servername/exchange rendition with no change in the
permissions issues.

Thanks for the ideas.


Jane Dumke
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577



-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


If you touched M: Drive permissions in ANY way, you are among the hosed.
If
you did any hardening of your IIS on that machine, check to see what the
hardening did.

Does this work if you use a front-end server for it?

Does this work if you use http://servername/exchange to start the OWA
session? Not http://servername.domain.com/exchange, just the host name.
If
that works, search the archives for "Coyote Jones" about in-depth
discussion
of that sort of boondoggle.

Yes, I now find myself in agreement with other Mr. Jones. Strange times
we
live in...

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
CEO

RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA

[Dumke, Jane]

The one that works has the ADC on it.

Jane Dumke 
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577 



-Original Message-
From: Dumke, Jane 
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 11:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


We're still not out of the woods as I can replicate the folders to a 3rd
server (supposed to be identical to the first 2), remove the replica off
the "bad" server, and the 3rd server has the exact same folder
permissions issues as the original first server.  The 2nd server remains
good for accessing PFs.

Jane Dumke 
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577 



-Original Message-
From: Dumke, Jane 
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 10:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Zuge, Peter
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


We use BackupExec and Trend Micro's Scanmail for Exchange.

It's not worked from Day One so I doubt the security patches caused
issues.

Interesting through, if I connect through the one PF server directly, I
have problems.  If I connect through the 2nd PF server, it's peachy.
This is a huge break through.   I could just cry! ;)

Signed,

Maybe not so Desperate in Stevens Point

Jane Dumke 
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577 



-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 9:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


You got anything backing up or scanning the M: Drive?

Apply any recent security patches?

Can you connect directly to the back-end server and have things work?

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
http://www.bad-managers.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dumke, Jane
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Zuge, Peter
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


Through experience we've learned that M: drive permissions are a no-no,
but that was after this was already occurring and is still occurring on
folders that we've never looked at through the M: drive.

We are using OWA as a front-end server.

I tried the http://servername/exchange rendition with no change in the
permissions issues.

Thanks for the ideas.


Jane Dumke 
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577 



-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


If you touched M: Drive permissions in ANY way, you are among the hosed.
If
you did any hardening of your IIS on that machine, check to see what the
hardening did.

Does this work if you use a front-end server for it?

Does this work if you use http://servername/exchange to start the OWA
session? Not http://servername.domain.com/exchange, just the host name.
If
that works, search the archives for "Coyote Jones" about in-depth
discussion
of that sort of boondoggle.

Yes, I now find myself in agreement with other Mr. Jones. Strange times
we
live in...

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
http://www.bad-managers.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dumke, Jane
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Zuge, Peter
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


Although we hadn't been using the full domain\logon when we logged on, I
just verified that that does not make a difference.

Jane Dumke
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577



-Original Message-
From: Wade Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


Are your users logging on with the domain specified as  follows
domain\username
Password  ??
I found that users not providing the domain when logging on through OWA
would get prompted for credentials accessing public folders.

-Original Message-
From: Dumke, Jane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Monday, September 24, 2001 9:18 AM
Posted To: Exchange List Server
Conversation: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA
Subject: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA

Dear Exchange Admins,

We upgraded to Ex2000 from Ex 5.5 about 3 or 4 weeks ago.  We're still
using the ADC but there are no ac

RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA

[Dumke, Jane]

We're still not out of the woods as I can replicate the folders to a 3rd
server (supposed to be identical to the first 2), remove the replica off
the "bad" server, and the 3rd server has the exact same folder
permissions issues as the original first server.  The 2nd server remains
good for accessing PFs.

Jane Dumke 
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577 



-Original Message-----
From: Dumke, Jane 
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 10:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Zuge, Peter
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


We use BackupExec and Trend Micro's Scanmail for Exchange.

It's not worked from Day One so I doubt the security patches caused
issues.

Interesting through, if I connect through the one PF server directly, I
have problems.  If I connect through the 2nd PF server, it's peachy.
This is a huge break through.   I could just cry! ;)

Signed,

Maybe not so Desperate in Stevens Point

Jane Dumke 
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577 



-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 9:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


You got anything backing up or scanning the M: Drive?

Apply any recent security patches?

Can you connect directly to the back-end server and have things work?

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
http://www.bad-managers.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dumke, Jane
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Zuge, Peter
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


Through experience we've learned that M: drive permissions are a no-no,
but that was after this was already occurring and is still occurring on
folders that we've never looked at through the M: drive.

We are using OWA as a front-end server.

I tried the http://servername/exchange rendition with no change in the
permissions issues.

Thanks for the ideas.


Jane Dumke 
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577 



-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


If you touched M: Drive permissions in ANY way, you are among the hosed.
If
you did any hardening of your IIS on that machine, check to see what the
hardening did.

Does this work if you use a front-end server for it?

Does this work if you use http://servername/exchange to start the OWA
session? Not http://servername.domain.com/exchange, just the host name.
If
that works, search the archives for "Coyote Jones" about in-depth
discussion
of that sort of boondoggle.

Yes, I now find myself in agreement with other Mr. Jones. Strange times
we
live in...

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
http://www.bad-managers.com

-Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dumke, Jane
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Zuge, Peter
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


Although we hadn't been using the full domain\logon when we logged on, I
just verified that that does not make a difference.

Jane Dumke
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577



-Original Message-
From: Wade Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


Are your users logging on with the domain specified as  follows
domain\username
Password  ??
I found that users not providing the domain when logging on through OWA
would get prompted for credentials accessing public folders.

-Original Message-
From: Dumke, Jane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Monday, September 24, 2001 9:18 AM
Posted To: Exchange List Server
Conversation: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA
Subject: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA

Dear Exchange Admins,

We upgraded to Ex2000 from Ex 5.5 about 3 or 4 weeks ago.  We're still
using the ADC but there are no accounts or public folders that exist on
the 2 remaining Ex5.5 servers.  Our public folders work great through
the Outlook client, but through OWA 2K, people with appropriate
permission may or may not have access to the same folders that they can
use without a problem through the OL client.  The folders may be shown
as empty, or the user may be prompted re

RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA

[Dumke, Jane]

We use BackupExec and Trend Micro's Scanmail for Exchange.

It's not worked from Day One so I doubt the security patches caused
issues.

Interesting through, if I connect through the one PF server directly, I
have problems.  If I connect through the 2nd PF server, it's peachy.
This is a huge break through.   I could just cry! ;)

Signed,

Maybe not so Desperate in Stevens Point

Jane Dumke 
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577 



-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 9:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


You got anything backing up or scanning the M: Drive?

Apply any recent security patches?

Can you connect directly to the back-end server and have things work?

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
http://www.bad-managers.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dumke, Jane
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Zuge, Peter
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


Through experience we've learned that M: drive permissions are a no-no,
but that was after this was already occurring and is still occurring on
folders that we've never looked at through the M: drive.

We are using OWA as a front-end server.

I tried the http://servername/exchange rendition with no change in the
permissions issues.

Thanks for the ideas.


Jane Dumke 
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577 



-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


If you touched M: Drive permissions in ANY way, you are among the hosed.
If
you did any hardening of your IIS on that machine, check to see what the
hardening did.

Does this work if you use a front-end server for it?

Does this work if you use http://servername/exchange to start the OWA
session? Not http://servername.domain.com/exchange, just the host name.
If
that works, search the archives for "Coyote Jones" about in-depth
discussion
of that sort of boondoggle.

Yes, I now find myself in agreement with other Mr. Jones. Strange times
we
live in...

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
http://www.bad-managers.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dumke, Jane
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Zuge, Peter
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


Although we hadn't been using the full domain\logon when we logged on, I
just verified that that does not make a difference.

Jane Dumke
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577



-Original Message-
From: Wade Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


Are your users logging on with the domain specified as  follows
domain\username
Password  ??
I found that users not providing the domain when logging on through OWA
would get prompted for credentials accessing public folders.

-Original Message-
From: Dumke, Jane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Monday, September 24, 2001 9:18 AM
Posted To: Exchange List Server
Conversation: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA
Subject: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA

Dear Exchange Admins,

We upgraded to Ex2000 from Ex 5.5 about 3 or 4 weeks ago.  We're still
using the ADC but there are no accounts or public folders that exist on
the 2 remaining Ex5.5 servers.  Our public folders work great through
the Outlook client, but through OWA 2K, people with appropriate
permission may or may not have access to the same folders that they can
use without a problem through the OL client.  The folders may be shown
as empty, or the user may be prompted repeatedly for credentials and
then denied permission or shown an empty folder.  The only way to give
them access to these types of folders is to set the Default user to at
least Reviewer.  In the M: drive, if you go to the Security tab, you get
a warning that the permissions are "incorrectly ordered".  Microsoft has
no idea what is going on after several hours on the phone with them.
Has anyone seen this before?

Signed,

Desperate (and worn out) in Stevens Pont


Jane Dumke
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577



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RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA

[Dumke, Jane]

Through experience we've learned that M: drive permissions are a no-no,
but that was after this was already occurring and is still occurring on
folders that we've never looked at through the M: drive.

We are using OWA as a front-end server.

I tried the http://servername/exchange rendition with no change in the
permissions issues.

Thanks for the ideas.


Jane Dumke 
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577 



-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


If you touched M: Drive permissions in ANY way, you are among the hosed.
If
you did any hardening of your IIS on that machine, check to see what the
hardening did.

Does this work if you use a front-end server for it?

Does this work if you use http://servername/exchange to start the OWA
session? Not http://servername.domain.com/exchange, just the host name.
If
that works, search the archives for "Coyote Jones" about in-depth
discussion
of that sort of boondoggle.

Yes, I now find myself in agreement with other Mr. Jones. Strange times
we
live in...

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
http://www.bad-managers.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dumke, Jane
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Zuge, Peter
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


Although we hadn't been using the full domain\logon when we logged on, I
just verified that that does not make a difference.

Jane Dumke
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577



-Original Message-
From: Wade Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


Are your users logging on with the domain specified as  follows
domain\username
Password  ??
I found that users not providing the domain when logging on through OWA
would get prompted for credentials accessing public folders.

-----Original Message-
From: Dumke, Jane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Monday, September 24, 2001 9:18 AM
Posted To: Exchange List Server
Conversation: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA
Subject: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA

Dear Exchange Admins,

We upgraded to Ex2000 from Ex 5.5 about 3 or 4 weeks ago.  We're still
using the ADC but there are no accounts or public folders that exist on
the 2 remaining Ex5.5 servers.  Our public folders work great through
the Outlook client, but through OWA 2K, people with appropriate
permission may or may not have access to the same folders that they can
use without a problem through the OL client.  The folders may be shown
as empty, or the user may be prompted repeatedly for credentials and
then denied permission or shown an empty folder.  The only way to give
them access to these types of folders is to set the Default user to at
least Reviewer.  In the M: drive, if you go to the Security tab, you get
a warning that the permissions are "incorrectly ordered".  Microsoft has
no idea what is going on after several hours on the phone with them.
Has anyone seen this before?

Signed,

Desperate (and worn out) in Stevens Pont


Jane Dumke
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577



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RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA

[Dumke, Jane]

Although we hadn't been using the full domain\logon when we logged on, I
just verified that that does not make a difference.  

Jane Dumke 
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577 



-Original Message-
From: Wade Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA


Are your users logging on with the domain specified as  follows
domain\username
Password  ?? 
I found that users not providing the domain when logging on through OWA
would get prompted for credentials accessing public folders.

-Original Message-
From: Dumke, Jane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Monday, September 24, 2001 9:18 AM
Posted To: Exchange List Server
Conversation: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA
Subject: Public Folders Access Issues through OWA

Dear Exchange Admins,

We upgraded to Ex2000 from Ex 5.5 about 3 or 4 weeks ago.  We're still
using the ADC but there are no accounts or public folders that exist on
the 2 remaining Ex5.5 servers.  Our public folders work great through
the Outlook client, but through OWA 2K, people with appropriate
permission may or may not have access to the same folders that they can
use without a problem through the OL client.  The folders may be shown
as empty, or the user may be prompted repeatedly for credentials and
then denied permission or shown an empty folder.  The only way to give
them access to these types of folders is to set the Default user to at
least Reviewer.  In the M: drive, if you go to the Security tab, you get
a warning that the permissions are "incorrectly ordered".  Microsoft has
no idea what is going on after several hours on the phone with them.
Has anyone seen this before?

Signed,

Desperate (and worn out) in Stevens Pont


Jane Dumke 
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577 



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Public Folders Access Issues through OWA

[Dumke, Jane]

Dear Exchange Admins,

We upgraded to Ex2000 from Ex 5.5 about 3 or 4 weeks ago.  We're still
using the ADC but there are no accounts or public folders that exist on
the 2 remaining Ex5.5 servers.  Our public folders work great through
the Outlook client, but through OWA 2K, people with appropriate
permission may or may not have access to the same folders that they can
use without a problem through the OL client.  The folders may be shown
as empty, or the user may be prompted repeatedly for credentials and
then denied permission or shown an empty folder.  The only way to give
them access to these types of folders is to set the Default user to at
least Reviewer.  In the M: drive, if you go to the Security tab, you get
a warning that the permissions are "incorrectly ordered".  Microsoft has
no idea what is going on after several hours on the phone with them.
Has anyone seen this before?

Signed,

Desperate (and worn out) in Stevens Pont


Jane Dumke 
Messaging Manager
University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
 
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577 



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bilateral agreement NDR

[Dumke, Jane]

Has anyone ever had to deal with this error?  I can't find it in TechNet
beyond it being an error.  We recently upgraded to Ex2K, SP1.

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

  Subject:  Test 2
  Sent: 08/23/2001 1:21 PM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/23/2001 1:21 PM
Delivery of the message required a bilateral agreement where
not such agreement exists
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a=
;p=uwsp;l=EMSMX10108231821050126


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University of Wisconsin - Stevens Point 
 
phone:(715)346-2463  fax:(715)346-4577 



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