RE: outsource!?

2003-11-17 Thread Mark Arnold
I'd like to know what you (Jon) aren't being told (so would you I bet).
No one calls IBM in for less than half a server's worth of mail
outsourcing. What else have you got knocking about? Any heavyweight
OS/390 apps around?

You might want to be looking for invisible ink on that meeting agenda.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bubba G
Sent: 17 November 2003 13:22
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Subject: RE: outsource!?

and if there are only 250 users/350 mailboxes then I doubt you are
talking about multiple staff members or sites who are effected. This is
just:

1 staff member
1 site
1 server

Correct?

The selling point on your side at that point will be the great deviation
in IBM price that will occur if your company needs to deviate from the
standard pricing. For that small a site, IBM's cost will grow
exponentially with each change. Look for reasons to need to deviate and
how out sourcing will compromise overall user experience and executive
staff features.

BG

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 2:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: outsource!?

You'll find that IBM are fully au-fait with all the security,
regulatory, recovery and performance aspects.
You are up against IBM who, along with EDS (Whom I just left), CGEY and
a pile of others who have done this inside out and upside down and more
times than you've had hot dinners.
Put all, and I mean all, of your technical aspects to one side. If IBM
are at proposal stage it means they're nowhere near the technical nitty
gritty. That comes with the Due Diligence phase where you will have the
opportunity to lay all the cards on the table and where IBM adjust their
cost model to suit what you say you want versus what they say you really
want and, this is a biggy, what that say they can provide from cheap
Leveraged resources and what they can provide from dedicated resources.

The more they can provide from Leveraged resources the cheaper it'll
become and the less viable an internal solution becomes.

All of your bullet points will be met with indifference since they're
pretty run of the mill.

You will most likely find that IBM taking over the servers does not
necessarily mean taking them into their own data centres. It could just
as easily mean that they transition some of you employees into IBM
(making some redundant later) and manage the boxes on your current
sites.

The reason IBM are coming in is that your CIO wants the same job done
cheaper, not necessarily better, just cheaper. Better is a luxury
Your best hope is to conduct a root and branch review of exactly what
you have got, what you can get rid of and consolidate, how many staff
you can afford to lay off as part of internal cost savings, and finally
what your cost savings will be as a result of the internal
rationalisations.

You will be onto a loser in the long run since it's a foot in the door
to total IT outsourcing and business process re-engineering.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Hill
Sent: 16 November 2003 03:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: outsource!?

My CIO has asked me to attend a meeting in which IBM is going to propose
outsourcing our e-mail services, taking over for our 350 Exchange 2000
mailboxes.

I'm looking for arguments to marshal against outsourcing.  So far, what
I've got is:
*   security:  We use Clearswift MIMEsweeper to block incoming (and
outgoing) messages containing viruses or executable files (.bat, .exe,
etc.).  This being IBM, I'm sure they can protect against viruses,
though.
*   disaster recovery:  Our disaster site is updated in real time.
During the blackout in August e-mail was up twenty minutes after I
arrived at the DR site.  Again, probably not a potent line item against
IBM.
*   regulatory:  we have some regulatory requirements for keeping
all records (including e-mail) on site for seven years.
*   integration:  Our CRM solution integrates directly into
Exchange, adding contacts directly to the users' mailboxes.  
*   performance:  I have trouble seeing how performance would be
adequate when the mail server is off site.
*   price:  250 users.  350 mailboxes.  140GB/month (according to
the Journal folders).  That can't be cheap.
*   legacy:  Seven years of preexisting e-mail, spread out among
mailboxes and pst files.  About 200GB all told.

What else am I missing?

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RE: outsource!?

2003-11-16 Thread Mark Arnold
You'll find that IBM are fully au-fait with all the security,
regulatory, recovery and performance aspects.
You are up against IBM who, along with EDS (Whom I just left), CGEY and
a pile of others who have done this inside out and upside down and more
times than you've had hot dinners.
Put all, and I mean all, of your technical aspects to one side. If IBM
are at proposal stage it means they're nowhere near the technical nitty
gritty. That comes with the Due Diligence phase where you will have the
opportunity to lay all the cards on the table and where IBM adjust their
cost model to suit what you say you want versus what they say you really
want and, this is a biggy, what that say they can provide from cheap
Leveraged resources and what they can provide from dedicated resources.

The more they can provide from Leveraged resources the cheaper it'll
become and the less viable an internal solution becomes.

All of your bullet points will be met with indifference since they're
pretty run of the mill.

You will most likely find that IBM taking over the servers does not
necessarily mean taking them into their own data centres. It could just
as easily mean that they transition some of you employees into IBM
(making some redundant later) and manage the boxes on your current
sites.

The reason IBM are coming in is that your CIO wants the same job done
cheaper, not necessarily better, just cheaper. Better is a luxury
Your best hope is to conduct a root and branch review of exactly what
you have got, what you can get rid of and consolidate, how many staff
you can afford to lay off as part of internal cost savings, and finally
what your cost savings will be as a result of the internal
rationalisations.

You will be onto a loser in the long run since it's a foot in the door
to total IT outsourcing and business process re-engineering.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Hill
Sent: 16 November 2003 03:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: outsource!?

My CIO has asked me to attend a meeting in which IBM is going to propose
outsourcing our e-mail services, taking over for our 350 Exchange 2000
mailboxes.

I'm looking for arguments to marshal against outsourcing.  So far, what
I've got is:
*   security:  We use Clearswift MIMEsweeper to block incoming (and
outgoing) messages containing viruses or executable files (.bat, .exe,
etc.).  This being IBM, I'm sure they can protect against viruses,
though.
*   disaster recovery:  Our disaster site is updated in real time.
During the blackout in August e-mail was up twenty minutes after I
arrived at the DR site.  Again, probably not a potent line item against
IBM.
*   regulatory:  we have some regulatory requirements for keeping
all records (including e-mail) on site for seven years.
*   integration:  Our CRM solution integrates directly into
Exchange, adding contacts directly to the users' mailboxes.  
*   performance:  I have trouble seeing how performance would be
adequate when the mail server is off site.
*   price:  250 users.  350 mailboxes.  140GB/month (according to
the Journal folders).  That can't be cheap.
*   legacy:  Seven years of preexisting e-mail, spread out among
mailboxes and pst files.  About 200GB all told.

What else am I missing?

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RE: Fax

2003-01-29 Thread Mark Arnold
Faxination's a great one for the Enterprise level.
Another good one is Message Manager from www.syssol.com.au which we've
just implemented. It's does everything faxination does and also delivers
inbound faxes to a network share, which was the reason we chose one over
the other (we've got a requirement to bring 10,000 faxes per week into
an image  workflow solution as well as the normal exchange based
inbound  outbound)

-Original Message-
From: Brett Wesoloski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 29 January 2003 17:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Fax

I have used  Fenestrae's Faxination and it worked great.

-Original Message-
From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Fax


Anybody using a faxing product with there Exchange Server?

I'm reviewing Captaris Right Fax and GFI FAXMaker.  Anybody have
any positive/negative feedback on either of these products?

Thanks.

Robert

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RE: RBL Article

2002-12-31 Thread Mark Arnold
Behave,
They'll still ask, and because the answer will be a simple and easy Q (oops) article 
you'll end up with more bleedin' follow up questions from people who have decided to 
put it into production rather than giving it up for lost in development.

Be careful what you wish for, as the old saying goes.

M

Mark
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 31 December 2002 20:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: RBL Article

On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, at 2:33pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have read that Titanium will have some sort of RBL feature. 
 
 But will it have customizable NDRs and Storage Limit Warnings? lol 
 
  How about a feature to automatically append text to every message? 
 
 That can already be had for a pittance.

  I don't want to do it.  I just want Exchange to have the feature so we
don't have people asking how to do it three times a week on this list.  ;-)

-- 
Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Any benefits to multiple NICs in Ex5.5?

2002-09-21 Thread Mark Arnold

I'd be surprised if setting up a VLAN for your inter exchange traffic
would reduce the user LAN loading by anything much more than a trickle.
Of course, LAN cards and switch ports are cheap but add a level of
complexity to your environment that your LAN and NT support people might
not want to cope with.
Get some stats off the LAN guys before you decide to VLAN off. If your
LAN guys were worth their salt and were worried about the traffic from
point to point they'd probably have brought it up already.

-Original Message-
From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 20 September 2002 23:50
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Any benefits to multiple NICs in Ex5.5?

Load balancing and /or redundancy ?

-Original Message-
From: Parrnelli GS11 Ben T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 1:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Any benefits to multiple NICs in Ex5.5?


Scenario:

NT 4.0 SP6a SRP
Exchange 5.5 SP4
10/100 NIC
ATM NIC

I've got two NICs in every exchange server and would like to put them to
good use.  I initially thought I would try to route all replication
traffic
through the Ethernet nic that's connected to all the other exchange
servers
via a switch.  Then allow all other traffic to flow through the ATM NIC.
However, I've found no documentation on how to make this happen.

So having said all that, my question again; would there be any benefits
to
using both NICs?

Thanks.

Ben Parrnelli
Network Administrator
Comm  Data Directorate
MAGTF Training Command
29 Palms, CA 92278

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RE: GFI Mail Essentials

2002-08-28 Thread Mark Arnold

GFI used to be really good at Tech Support in EMEA. I have head they've
gone downhill somewhat of late. MimeSweeper is still in a strong
position over here.

Mark Arnold, MVP(Exchange)

 
-Original Message-
From: Steven A. Christensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 29 August 2002 00:28
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: GFI Mail Essentials

Used several versions with Exchange 5.5.  Found the released versions to
be
of beta quality and reliability.  Found the tech support to be shabby
at
best (I think they had two people total handling all the calls).  It was
a
real pain in the rear to administer - and had limitations which made it
all
the more difficult.  I've seen others suggest Mail Marshal, but don't
have
any personal experience as to whether it is a better product.

Good luck.

Steve C.

- Original Message -
From: Jason Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 6:07 PM
Subject: GFI Mail Essentials


| My company needs a product to block by domain, sender. We must also be
| able to block spam, email attachments. We are currently using software
| called eSafe which is less than what we had hoped for and we are
looking
| for another option. Any recommendations. We are looking at this
software
| from GFI called Mail Essentials. Has anyone heard about them or used
the
| product. Thanks all.

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RE: Joining Exchange 5.5 SBS to Exhange 2000

2002-07-18 Thread Mark Arnold

Exchange 2000 would probably allow itself to be added to the SBS/E5.5
but you are likely to have problems. I have tried linking SBS to real
5.5 several times in a lab environment but always had the MTA take
offence after a short while.
I don't think it's worth the risk, better to start afresh.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 17 July 2002 23:32
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Joining Exchange 5.5 SBS to Exhange 2000

I am new to Exchange 2000 and I am looking to join an existing Exchange
5.5 Small Business edition to an existing Exchange 2000 organization.
Is
this possible?

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RE: Message filtering

2002-07-09 Thread Mark Arnold

That might be the answer, but what is the question

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 09 July 2002 19:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Message filtering

42

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Message filtering


203.199.81.81

 -Original Message-
 From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 12:28 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Message filtering
 
 
 I do have anti-virus software and it is trapping and quarantining the 
 messages. But that doesn't stop the spoofed email from coming in. I 
 would like to find out the source of the infection - who is the user 
 who has been infected. Can I tell from the message header attached 
 below ?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 1:25 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Message filtering
 
 
 First I'd change my DL SMTP addresses to something non-obvious. Then 
 I'd implement an antivirus solution which could be configured to drop 
 worms.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: RBHATIA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:28 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Message filtering
 
 
  We're being hit big time by the KLEZ virus. Here is one of the 
  messages that was sent. I've checked everyone's machines and 
  everyone seems clear. So I'm
  guessing it's someone who works closely with our company as we have
 emails
  floating back and forth between staff who claim they never sent each
 other
  email.
  What if I set up the message filtering option on the Internet Mail 
  Connector to block the domain smtp02.vsnl.net and smtp03.vsnl.net 
  since those seem to
  be the 2 main sources from where the emails are originating.
  Also, how do I insert the entry ? Do I enter it as @smtp02.vsnl.net
?
 
  
  Received: from smtp02.vsnl.net ([203.197.12.8]) by
 myserver.mycompany.com
  with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange )
  id 31VYJYRC; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 04:14:50 -0400
  Received: from Qrvlyi ([203.199.81.81]) by smtp02.vsnl.net (Netscape

  Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GYX8GJ00.Z9D for 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:49:31 +0530
  From: staff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: .
 
 
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RE: Unlimited Quotas

2002-07-05 Thread Mark Arnold

When asked this question I've always gone with what Ed has said only less blunt, the 
business must decide what it wants to or can afford to fork out for and then the 
business must be told what it will get for its money. The Exchange designer must 
present all the available options to the business which will then decide, often by 
inference rather than specifically what the answer will be. In the case of Exchange 
the options spread to the workstations, the support teams and the file servers, 
something often overlooked when options are being submitted.

On occasion there have been situations where the business has been told that £/$x,000 
will buy them x MB per user and anything over that would need to be stored on the file 
server or local machines in PSTs. The file server has then started creaking with 
people storing their PSTs and PSTs have gone west causing additional support calls 
which quickly ended up costing more than a bigger/more server(s).

Often it is a failure in the Exchange Designer or Administrator to fully document the 
ramifications of the business not spending the appropriate amount of money on an 
Exchange Server.

Often it is a failure of the users ever to hit the delete key.

Usually it's a failure of both. 

We never get the money we want for our Exchange servers and the users never get the 
storage they want in their mailboxes.


-Original Message-
From: John Steniger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 05 July 2002 20:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas

Not to get into a war of words (as this appears to be something near and
dear to your heart), often IT is put in the position to have to:

A) Save money by not spending any, period (on Exchange or any other type of
upgrades, or disk, or what have you..)

B) Provide virtually unlimited service (unlimited file share, unlimited
email storage, etc)

These two opposing conditions are imposed on us by those far more important
than myself in an organization.  In an organization, the fact that it is
sometimes impossible to meet these two criteria at the same time if often
lost on those who make these decisions.  It happened in our organization,
and it was decided that limits should be imposed.  Did we run out of space
directly because we had no limits to begin with?  I happen to believe no
limits encourages lazy usage (storing everything, to the point where you
can't remember if you need it, so you keep it) - I certainly may be
mistaken.  It seems clear to me that if reasonable limits are imposed, and
adjusted as needs change, one can get much more use out of a system. 

To speak to another of your points, sometimes more disk drives don't do
the trick.  Exchange (not Enterprise) imposes a software limit on the
information store.  Disk won't help if you hit that.  I agree with you that
you won't necessarily run out of space if you restrict storage.  However, I
would say its rather likely, from my experience.  It may not happen within a
week, or even a year, but users aren't typically concerned with keeping
their file and email storage neat and clean so to not fill up the server -
they have their own jobs to worry about.  Maybe the users in your
organization are different. 

John J. Steniger



 -Original Message-
 From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 2:32 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Unlimited Quotas
 
 
 
 Why do you pretend to be arrogant enough to be able to 
 dictate the needs
 of others? You don't seem to have any business drivers to justify your
 actions. And who is to say that getting additional disk drives for the
 user email storage isn't out of the question?
 
 And as to storage, it has nothing to do with processor and RAM. 
 
 And most importantly, just because you don't restrict the 
 users storage,
 doesn't mean that you will run out of space. That's 
 absolutely hogwash,
 a justification of why many IT shops get such a bad 
 reputation. Your job
 is to SUPPORT your users, not be a dictator. In the whole scheme of
 things, a few thousand dollars for some disk space and maybe 
 an upgrade
 in Exchange editions is petty cash. 
 
 
 The BUSINESS driver should not be an IT limit. Exchange really is able
 to support most business drivers with little difficulty. In the
 limitation of storage, that should be completely dictated by you
 organizations Document Retention Policy, which should be 
 dictated by the
 lawyers. And it shouldn't even be an IT function to enforce, 
 even if you
 can. 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Friday, July 05, 2002 9:18 AM
 Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
 Conversation: Unlimited Quotas
 Subject: Unlimited Quotas
 
 
 I am being asked to justify why I have set quotas for users on our E2K
 server with 25 users.  Things that come to mind are that if we give
 users unlimited stores, we will have to buy more disk space in time.
 Also we have a single 

RE: Sent header information ?

2002-06-26 Thread Mark Arnold

The IMC/SMTP services receive the message with the time zone attached
(if you look at the message header) but I know of no way to have
Exchange take that information and insert it into the message.

-Original Message-
From: Kully [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 June 2002 15:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sent header information ?

Does anyone know if it possible to have the following added in an email
timestamp below:

Current email
-Original Message-
From: Lname, Fname 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 9:33 AM
To: Surname, Firstname
Subject: Question about Timezones

What we want to do is have: - please note the extra EDT .
-Original Message-
From: Lname, Fname 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 9:33 AM EDT (Eastern Daylight Time)
To: Surname, Firstname
Subject: Question about Timezones

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RE: Kill new e-mail messages to previous employees personalmail

2002-06-26 Thread Mark Arnold

Rather than set a mailbox and fill it with smtp addresses from ex
employees do the same with a distribution list and assign no members.
This way the mails will just disappear into oblivion.


-Original Message-
From: Eve Jimah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 26 June 2002 09:15
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Kill new e-mail messages to previous employees personalmail

I am having a similar problem, I have created a new
mailbox and I made myself the owner, my question now
is how to set the rule to delete messages delivered to
this mailbox. In the past I have not been able to set
a rule that applies to a secondary mailbox. I can set
rules through outlook 2000 rule wizard to apply to may
main box but not to a secondary one ie one setup for
the above purpose. My platform is NT4 and exchange
5.5. service pack 6.

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RE: Catch All

2002-06-26 Thread Mark Arnold

There ought to be someone who has the [EMAIL PROTECTED] smtp
address, the mail will drop there, defaulted to the person who installed
the first server. If not, assign it to yourself.

-Original Message-
From: Gary Duckman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 26 June 2002 15:41
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Catch All

Hi Guys,

I have not been on the list for over a year so excuse me if I have
missed
the threads on this

Can I re-route all inbound unknown recipient mail to a single mailbox in
Exchange 2000? (I known how to do it in 5.5)

At the moment it goes into the badmail directory.

This is for people who mispell addresses etc.


Cheers,


Gary

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RE: Catch All

2002-06-26 Thread Mark Arnold

Isn't that for all mails to a single domain going to a specific user? We
got this a little while ago and I quote from the summary 
This article describes how to create an event sink to capture
all e-mail messages that are sent to a particular domain, and then
direct them to a single mailbox.

I read the question as where to send mails for all unrecognised inbound
recipients like in the old days on the IMS.

M

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 26 June 2002 15:48
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Catch All

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q324021SD=MSKB;



-Original Message-
From: Gary Duckman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 10:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Catch All


Hi Guys,

I have not been on the list for over a year so excuse me if I have
missed
the threads on this

Can I re-route all inbound unknown recipient mail to a single mailbox in
Exchange 2000? (I known how to do it in 5.5)

At the moment it goes into the badmail directory.

This is for people who mispell addresses etc.


Cheers,


Gary

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RE: Public folders delivering mail?!

2002-06-26 Thread Mark Arnold

This is done in exchange admin.

-Original Message-
From: matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 26 June 2002 16:31
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public folders delivering mail?!

Is this done via the outlook client or at the 5.5 server. The issue
being I
have users who have folders close to their email address. If sender
misspells email address
Mail goes directly to folder. User complains  she is missing email. She
wants all mail to come to inbox then after read she will move to
whatever
public folder she wants.

-Original Message-
From: Drewery, Anthony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 11:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Public folders delivering mail?!


You can remove the SMTP address from the public folder.

Ant.
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Messaging Services
CP Ships, Crawley, UK

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From: matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 26 June 2002 16:18
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Public folders delivering mail?!


Hi quick question Exchange 5.5 sp3 on NT 4.0 sp6. If I set up a public
folder and then email to to this folder it accepts the email. IE..  I
have a
mailbox setup for [EMAIL PROTECTED] I made a public folder called
johnsmith. I
can email the folder by [EMAIL PROTECTED] And it gets delivered to this
folder. How can I stop this from happening?



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RE: Outlook/Exchange Problems

2002-05-31 Thread Mark Arnold ()

Ouch Nate, bad day in Plano ?

Mark Arnold MCSE MVP
EDS UK

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 31 May 2002 12:19
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Exchange Problems

What has changed in your environment?  Things don't just happen?  There is
a reason and usually something changed (a setting, a service pack was added,
etc.).  What, if anything, do the Event Logs show?  What about user
permissions (have you checked the permissions on the Calendars)?  Can you,
as the Administrator get in and do anything?  What about the overall
performance of your server? 


Nate Couch
EDS Messaging





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 From: Christopher Hummert
 Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 18:58
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Outlook/Exchange Problems
 
 Yesterday just all of the sudden everyone on my network started having
 problems with outlook where they:
 
 -Can't add appointments to calendar
 -Can't add tasks
 -Can't print e-mails
 
 They can:
 -add contacts
 -see public folder and put messages in them
 
 When they go to add a appointment or task they get the following
 message:
 The item could not be saved to this folder.  The folder has been
 deleted or moved, or I do not have permission.  Do you want to save a
 copy of it in the default folder for the item?
 
 They chose yes and get the following message:
 No matching entries were found
 
 They also get the same message when they try to print an e-mail. I've
 done scanpst on their pst file and I've ran outlook with the
 /cleanprofile and /ResetFolders switch but that hasn't cleaned up the
 problem. It was weird cause it was working all day long and then
 happened all of the sudden. Anyone know what's going on?
 
 
 Thanks
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RE: Attachment

2002-05-31 Thread Mark Arnold ()

Indeed, reduce the message limits and make a note of who shouts.

-Original Message-
From: Jojo Solis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 31 May 2002 11:12
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Attachment

is there a way to monitor who are sending with large attachement? 

E2K server.


regards,

jojo

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RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server

2002-05-31 Thread Mark Arnold ()

This is in English
http://www.thestandard.com.au/IDG2.NSF/All/D56A4C61ECC7F0C3CA256BC60038E
885!OpenDocumentNavArea=HomeSelectedCategoryName=News
But left me no wiser.

Anyone for some StorageWorks ?

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 31 May 2002 15:28
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server

Please share what RAID5e is.  I could only find two hits in AltaVista on
that phrase, and both used character sets not in my workstation.

May I suggest you change hardware vendors?  My employer makes a fine
line of servers that I don't believe have this problem.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Peoples
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server


I apologise for the OT question...

Has anyone experienced issues with bad striping on a RAID5e disk array?
(hardware RAID)

I have had this twice in the last 6 months. When a disk dies in the
array it is replaced ASAP. RAID5e should be able to handle this without
error right?

When the RAID5e striping has errors, it registers sectors on the logical
disk as bad and causes disk I/O errors - which screws (eventually
corrupts) the exchange information store(s) on the logical drive and
prevents backups from completing.

hhhmmm ... perhaps someone can enlighten me as to why RAID5e couldn't
handle the occassional defunct drive without screwing the rest of the
array in the process of rebuilding itself...

The hardware vendor has recommended re-creating the RAID array from
scratch and restoring from backup

Any thoughts?

sorry again for the OT question - but I'll even throw in a Friday
afternoon Haiku for good measure:

Friday afternoon
gotta get going home 
server is cactus

Thanks,
MP



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RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server

2002-05-31 Thread Mark Arnold

It'll never be time to go with the D word. The D people don't make
servers, they only claim to.
Who's the I word though?

-Original Message-
From: MS Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 31 May 2002 18:28
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server

Maybe it's time to go with D or I!


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:19 AM
Posted To: MS Exchange Discussions
Conversation: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server
Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server


Back in 1998 we used Ed Crowley's employer's line of servers and they
were
not that good. We switched to their major competitor. But now it's not a
competitor anymore since they became the same company. But I still like
servers that start with C better than those that start with H. But I
think
Ed is also from the C side, right?

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server


Drop your hardware vendor.  Been running my databases on RAID5's on Ed
Crowley's employer's fine line of servers and NEVER EVER had an issue.  

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Mark Peoples [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server


I apologise for the OT question...

Has anyone experienced issues with bad striping on a RAID5e disk array?
(hardware RAID)

I have had this twice in the last 6 months. When a disk dies in the
array it
is replaced ASAP. RAID5e should be able to handle this without error
right?

When the RAID5e striping has errors, it registers sectors on the logical
disk as bad and causes disk I/O errors - which screws (eventually
corrupts)
the exchange information store(s) on the logical drive and prevents
backups
from completing.

hhhmmm ... perhaps someone can enlighten me as to why RAID5e couldn't
handle
the occassional defunct drive without screwing the rest of the array in
the
process of rebuilding itself...

The hardware vendor has recommended re-creating the RAID array from
scratch
and restoring from backup

Any thoughts?

sorry again for the OT question - but I'll even throw in a Friday
afternoon
Haiku for good measure:

Friday afternoon
gotta get going home 
server is cactus

Thanks,
MP



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RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server

2002-05-31 Thread Mark Arnold

Ahhh of course, that versatile Netfinity brand. Dreadful little boxes.
Still they're our biggest competitor and are kicking our buts at this
time, so they must be doing something right. It's just not doing servers
right.

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 31 May 2002 19:24
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server

No...It would stand for Idiots. As in Idiots, Boneheads, and Morons.

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server

I'll bet 'I' is for Intel..
why? one of our divisions sell's these

What do I win if I'm right?

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server


It'll never be time to go with the D word. The D people don't make
servers, they only claim to.
Who's the I word though?

-Original Message-
From: MS Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 31 May 2002 18:28
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server

Maybe it's time to go with D or I!


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:19 AM
Posted To: MS Exchange Discussions
Conversation: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server
Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server


Back in 1998 we used Ed Crowley's employer's line of servers and they
were
not that good. We switched to their major competitor. But now it's not a
competitor anymore since they became the same company. But I still like
servers that start with C better than those that start with H. But I
think
Ed is also from the C side, right?

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server


Drop your hardware vendor.  Been running my databases on RAID5's on Ed
Crowley's employer's fine line of servers and NEVER EVER had an issue.  

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Mark Peoples [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server


I apologise for the OT question...

Has anyone experienced issues with bad striping on a RAID5e disk array?
(hardware RAID)

I have had this twice in the last 6 months. When a disk dies in the
array it
is replaced ASAP. RAID5e should be able to handle this without error
right?

When the RAID5e striping has errors, it registers sectors on the logical
disk as bad and causes disk I/O errors - which screws (eventually
corrupts)
the exchange information store(s) on the logical drive and prevents
backups
from completing.

hhhmmm ... perhaps someone can enlighten me as to why RAID5e couldn't
handle
the occassional defunct drive without screwing the rest of the array in
the
process of rebuilding itself...

The hardware vendor has recommended re-creating the RAID array from
scratch
and restoring from backup

Any thoughts?

sorry again for the OT question - but I'll even throw in a Friday
afternoon
Haiku for good measure:

Friday afternoon
gotta get going home 
server is cactus

Thanks,
MP



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RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server

2002-05-31 Thread Mark Arnold

Yeah, there had been a minor Blonde moment. Even worse since I'm
currently typing on a Thinkpad !

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 31 May 2002 20:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server

Bzzz. Think 3 little letters, and a color.

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Peregrine Systems
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 -Original Message-
 From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:12 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server
 
 
 I'll bet 'I' is for Intel..
 why? one of our divisions sell's these
 
 What do I win if I'm right?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:08 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server
 
 
 It'll never be time to go with the D word. The D people don't make
 servers, they only claim to.
 Who's the I word though?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: MS Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 31 May 2002 18:28
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server
 
 Maybe it's time to go with D or I!
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:19 AM
 Posted To: MS Exchange Discussions
 Conversation: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server
 Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server
 
 
 Back in 1998 we used Ed Crowley's employer's line of servers and they
 were
 not that good. We switched to their major competitor. But now 
 it's not a
 competitor anymore since they became the same company. But I 
 still like
 servers that start with C better than those that start with H. But I
 think
 Ed is also from the C side, right?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server
 
 
 Drop your hardware vendor.  Been running my databases on RAID5's on Ed
 Crowley's employer's fine line of servers and NEVER EVER had 
 an issue.  
 
 Serdar Soysal
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Peoples [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:57 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: kinda OT - RAID on the exchange server
 
 
 I apologise for the OT question...
 
 Has anyone experienced issues with bad striping on a RAID5e 
 disk array?
 (hardware RAID)
 
 I have had this twice in the last 6 months. When a disk dies in the
 array it
 is replaced ASAP. RAID5e should be able to handle this without error
 right?
 
 When the RAID5e striping has errors, it registers sectors on 
 the logical
 disk as bad and causes disk I/O errors - which screws (eventually
 corrupts)
 the exchange information store(s) on the logical drive and prevents
 backups
 from completing.
 
 hhhmmm ... perhaps someone can enlighten me as to why RAID5e couldn't
 handle
 the occassional defunct drive without screwing the rest of 
 the array in
 the
 process of rebuilding itself...
 
 The hardware vendor has recommended re-creating the RAID array from
 scratch
 and restoring from backup
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 sorry again for the OT question - but I'll even throw in a Friday
 afternoon
 Haiku for good measure:
 
 Friday afternoon
 gotta get going home 
 server is cactus
 
 Thanks,
 MP
 
 
 
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RE: Large IS DB

2002-05-24 Thread Mark Arnold ()

Yeah, the place where you see the sizes of the mailboxes doesn't have the option to 
view hidden, it shows all things. It's only a guide but isn't usually that far out.
I know you've said you're reporting 2GB of white space but have you tried an offline 
defrag, in my experience you'll gain more than it reports as spare.

-Original Message-
From: Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 24 May 2002 19:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB

The report is the dump of the total size of all mailboxes (as seen from
Exchange Admin).  There are some large mailboxes on the server, but the
total space taken up by both hidden and visible mailboxes does not total
more then 8 GBthus my delima.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


Do you have any hidden mailboxes that are not showing up in your
reports? Ever clean out he Admin box? Or the AV box? 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of paragon400
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Large IS DB


Fellow exchange admins\engineers\gurus,

Does anyone have any suggestions for this situation?

Config:
Exchange 5.5 SP4
WinNT 4.0 SP6
Priv.edb = 45GB
Deleted Item Cache = 11.5 GB
Deleted Item retention was 7 days, but in an effort to fix this I set it
to 3 days to see if it would make a difference.  The DIC (ok..I can see
the jokes coming, but hey.it's Friday) was 15 GB and after the change it
shrunk to 11.5 GB after a couple days. Whitespace = Event ID's 1221
state that on average there is 2GB of whitespace

When I look at the mailbox sizes through Exchange Admin and do a dump to
CSV it totals out to be about 7 GB, yet the Priv is 45 GB.  Backups are
taking extremely long and I wanted to see if anyone had a suggestions as
to what, if any, the problem could be here.  We have done a number of IS
compresses and only gotten about 2-4 GB of space (no surprise because of
the reported whitespace).  But with what Exchange Admin is reporting I
am concerned.

Thanks for any suggestions and for those in the states..have a good
relaxing holiday.


Best regards,
Steve


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RE: Large IS DB

2002-05-24 Thread Mark Arnold ()

I only mention it because you haven't, but..
XADM: Database Does Not Shrink after Several Mailbox Deletions [Q192189] talks of 
waiting a while before kicking off the eseutil. I don't think it applies since you've 
done several offline defrags over time. Can't hurt though.
Also have a look at XADM: Determining Database Free Space with Exchange 5.5 SP1 
[Q195914] which would give a truer picture of free space.

-Original Message-
From: paragon400 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 24 May 2002 19:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB

We have done a number of IS compresses to try to resolve it and only
gotten about 2-4 GB of space (no surprise because of the reported
whitespace in the event logs).

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 11:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


Yeah, the place where you see the sizes of the mailboxes doesn't have
the option to view hidden, it shows all things. It's only a guide but
isn't usually that far out. I know you've said you're reporting 2GB of
white space but have you tried an offline defrag, in my experience
you'll gain more than it reports as spare.

-Original Message-
From: Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 24 May 2002 19:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB

The report is the dump of the total size of all mailboxes (as seen from
Exchange Admin).  There are some large mailboxes on the server, but the
total space taken up by both hidden and visible mailboxes does not total
more then 8 GBthus my delima.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Large IS DB


Do you have any hidden mailboxes that are not showing up in your
reports? Ever clean out he Admin box? Or the AV box? 

--Kevinm KMAP-SR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of paragon400
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Large IS DB


Fellow exchange admins\engineers\gurus,

Does anyone have any suggestions for this situation?

Config:
Exchange 5.5 SP4
WinNT 4.0 SP6
Priv.edb = 45GB
Deleted Item Cache = 11.5 GB
Deleted Item retention was 7 days, but in an effort to fix this I set it
to 3 days to see if it would make a difference.  The DIC (ok..I can see
the jokes coming, but hey.it's Friday) was 15 GB and after the change it
shrunk to 11.5 GB after a couple days. Whitespace = Event ID's 1221
state that on average there is 2GB of whitespace

When I look at the mailbox sizes through Exchange Admin and do a dump to
CSV it totals out to be about 7 GB, yet the Priv is 45 GB.  Backups are
taking extremely long and I wanted to see if anyone had a suggestions as
to what, if any, the problem could be here.  We have done a number of IS
compresses and only gotten about 2-4 GB of space (no surprise because of
the reported whitespace).  But with what Exchange Admin is reporting I
am concerned.

Thanks for any suggestions and for those in the states..have a good
relaxing holiday.


Best regards,
Steve


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RE: Ex 5.5-W2k and IMAP/SSL

2002-05-22 Thread Mark Arnold ()

XIMS: Troubleshooting POP3/IMAP 13002 Errors w. SSL on Exchange [Q251097]

My experience was getting a certificate for [EMAIL PROTECTED] didn't permit getting 
mail over [EMAIL PROTECTED] for example. You'd need to set DNS up for one dns name only, 
which should be ok since you're using different ports. That's probably not an example 
of your problem though ?



-Original Message-
From: Jason Kelley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 22 May 2002 19:44
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Ex 5.5-W2k and IMAP/SSL

I'm trying to configure the IMAP protocol to only accept connections over
SSL.  I have obtained an SSL certificate from Verisign and imported it into
the certificate store.  I know that it works because I can connect to OWA
over https without errors or warnings.

In the exchange administrator I have selected the IMAP protocol to only use
SSL.  I have enabled diagnostic logging on the IMAP protocol to maximum.

When I try to connect via Outlook configured to use IMAP(over SSL) it fails.

The event logs on the server show the following event ID 13002 which says
An attempt to connect an SSL client failed because the server does not have
a valid certificate. 

Does anybody have any ideas what I may have missed?

Thanks - Jason

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RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer b eing used....

2002-05-22 Thread Mark Arnold ()

That got him where it hurts Lori.


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 22 May 2002 19:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer b eing 
used

Except you're not new Mike.  You've been asking questions of this caliber
for over a year.  I'm beginning to believe that you cannot read.

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


You all are my friends here.  Thanks...

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May, 2002 4:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


A popular (read effective) antivirus for mail servers.

Google is your friend here.  :^)

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Yeah really...  I am a new administrator and I haven't a clue.  Sorry.

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May, 2002 4:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Really?

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


What is Scanmail and what is it used for?

Thanks..

-Original Message-
From: James Casstevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 20 May, 2002 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
being used


Does anyone know of a 3rd party utility that can calculate the mailboxes
that are not currently being used.  Since we are using Trend Micro's
Scanmail, we cannot depend on using the last time a user logs onto his/her
mailbox, since Scanmail does so on a regular basis.  Any help would be
appreciated.

James Casstevens.

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RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer b eing used....

2002-05-22 Thread Mark Arnold ()

Why should he fish when others can answer his question afresh and then create a nice 
thread taking the rise out of him. Perhaps he's into SM or something, not that I know 
what SM means, any more than I know what FSCK means (if you're following the other 
threads)


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 22 May 2002 20:50
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer b eing 
used

Hope so.  This man refuses to learn to fish, so he can just starve.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


That got him where it hurts Lori.


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 22 May 2002 19:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer b
eing used

Except you're not new Mike.  You've been asking questions of this caliber
for over a year.  I'm beginning to believe that you cannot read.

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


You all are my friends here.  Thanks...

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May, 2002 4:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


A popular (read effective) antivirus for mail servers.

Google is your friend here.  :^)

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Yeah really...  I am a new administrator and I haven't a clue.  Sorry.

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May, 2002 4:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Really?

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


What is Scanmail and what is it used for?

Thanks..

-Original Message-
From: James Casstevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 20 May, 2002 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
being used


Does anyone know of a 3rd party utility that can calculate the mailboxes
that are not currently being used.  Since we are using Trend Micro's
Scanmail, we cannot depend on using the last time a user logs onto his/her
mailbox, since Scanmail does so on a regular basis.  Any help would be
appreciated.

James Casstevens.

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RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer b eing used....

2002-05-22 Thread Mark Arnold ()

Kind of, but instead of them being candy they're all chocolatey (that's never spelt 
right surely) but still round, with a strange whiff of salt. A pint of beer for the 
1st to get the reference

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 22 May 2002 21:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer b eing 
used

SM's...is that a new candy?

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 4:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used

Why should he fish when others can answer his question afresh and then
create a nice thread taking the rise out of him. Perhaps he's into SM
or something, not that I know what SM means, any more than I know what
FSCK means (if you're following the other threads)


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 22 May 2002 20:50
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used

Hope so.  This man refuses to learn to fish, so he can just starve.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


That got him where it hurts Lori.


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 22 May 2002 19:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b
eing used

Except you're not new Mike.  You've been asking questions of this
caliber
for over a year.  I'm beginning to believe that you cannot read.

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


You all are my friends here.  Thanks...

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May, 2002 4:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


A popular (read effective) antivirus for mail servers.

Google is your friend here.  :^)

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Yeah really...  I am a new administrator and I haven't a clue.  Sorry.

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May, 2002 4:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Really?

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


What is Scanmail and what is it used for?

Thanks..

-Original Message-
From: James Casstevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 20 May, 2002 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
being used


Does anyone know of a 3rd party utility that can calculate the mailboxes
that are not currently being used.  Since we are using Trend Micro's
Scanmail, we cannot depend on using the last time a user logs onto
his/her
mailbox, since Scanmail does so on a regular basis.  Any help would be
appreciated.

James Casstevens.

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RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer b eing used....

2002-05-22 Thread Mark Arnold ()

You will find £2.20 in your left pocket. Pub/bar somewhere near you.
When you get back you can ask how the hell sterling got in your pocket and why the 
barman accepted it.

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 22 May 2002 21:32
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer b eing 
used

Chef?

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 3:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Kind of, but instead of them being candy they're all chocolatey (that's never
spelt right surely) but still round, with a strange whiff of salt. A pint of
beer for the 1st to get the reference

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 22 May 2002 21:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer b eing
used

SM's...is that a new candy?

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 4:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used

Why should he fish when others can answer his question afresh and then
create a nice thread taking the rise out of him. Perhaps he's into SM
or something, not that I know what SM means, any more than I know what
FSCK means (if you're following the other threads)


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 22 May 2002 20:50
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used

Hope so.  This man refuses to learn to fish, so he can just starve.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


That got him where it hurts Lori.


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 22 May 2002 19:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b
eing used

Except you're not new Mike.  You've been asking questions of this
caliber
for over a year.  I'm beginning to believe that you cannot read.

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


You all are my friends here.  Thanks...

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May, 2002 4:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


A popular (read effective) antivirus for mail servers.

Google is your friend here.  :^)

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Yeah really...  I am a new administrator and I haven't a clue.  Sorry.

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May, 2002 4:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Really?

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


What is Scanmail and what is it used for?

Thanks..

-Original Message-
From: James Casstevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 20 May, 2002 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
being used


Does anyone know of a 3rd party utility that can calculate the mailboxes
that are not currently being used.  Since we are using Trend Micro's
Scanmail, we cannot depend on using the last time a user logs onto
his/her
mailbox, since Scanmail does so on a regular basis.  Any help would be
appreciated.

James Casstevens.

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RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer b eing used....

2002-05-22 Thread Mark Arnold ()

Not so as you'd notice grin

-Original Message-
From: David Florea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 22 May 2002 21:37
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer b eing 
used

Dunno, but fsck is a *nix command, isn't it?  ;-}


-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Kind of, but instead of them being candy they're all chocolatey (that's never spelt 
right surely) but still round, with a strange whiff of salt. A pint of beer for the 
1st to get the reference

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 22 May 2002 21:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer b eing 
used

SM's...is that a new candy?

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 4:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used

Why should he fish when others can answer his question afresh and then
create a nice thread taking the rise out of him. Perhaps he's into SM
or something, not that I know what SM means, any more than I know what
FSCK means (if you're following the other threads)


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 22 May 2002 20:50
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used

Hope so.  This man refuses to learn to fish, so he can just starve.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


That got him where it hurts Lori.


-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 22 May 2002 19:26
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b
eing used

Except you're not new Mike.  You've been asking questions of this
caliber
for over a year.  I'm beginning to believe that you cannot read.

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


You all are my friends here.  Thanks...

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May, 2002 4:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


A popular (read effective) antivirus for mail servers.

Google is your friend here.  :^)

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Yeah really...  I am a new administrator and I haven't a clue.  Sorry.

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 May, 2002 4:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


Really?

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
b eing used


What is Scanmail and what is it used for?

Thanks..

-Original Message-
From: James Casstevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, 20 May, 2002 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: 3rd party utility to check for mailboxes that are no longer
being used


Does anyone know of a 3rd party utility that can calculate the mailboxes
that are not currently being used.  Since we are using Trend Micro's
Scanmail, we cannot depend on using the last time a user logs onto
his/her
mailbox, since Scanmail does so on a regular basis.  Any help would be
appreciated.

James Casstevens.

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RE: Products to replicate Exchange data over the wire

2002-05-21 Thread Mark Arnold ()

Explains why they're making 3000 ignite people redundant.


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 21 May 2002 14:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Products to replicate Exchange data over the wire

Huh?

-Original Message-
From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 5:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Products to replicate Exchange data over the wire


Exchange 2K


:)

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Data Support Specialist
BT Ignite eSolutions


-Original Message-
From: wade robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 May 2002 12:31
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Products to replicate Exchange data over the wire


I am looking for a product that is able to replicate exchange data from
one
datacenter over the wire to another location.  Is there any products
that
provided this type of off site replication??

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RE: Products to replicate Exchange data over the wire

2002-05-21 Thread Mark Arnold ()

And as Martin suggested the answer wasn't the most helpful you've
submitted.
Mass redundancies are never funny but one must adopt a positive stance
in the face of adversity.
Now, about that solution for Wade, what do you think..

-Original Message-
From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 21 May 2002 14:54
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Products to replicate Exchange data over the wire

Doesn't really explain anything Mark. 3000 of my colleagues losing their
jobs isn't really a comical subject.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Data Support Specialist
BT Ignite eSolutions


-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 May 2002 14:39
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Products to replicate Exchange data over the wire


Explains why they're making 3000 ignite people redundant.


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 21 May 2002 14:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Products to replicate Exchange data over the wire

Huh?

-Original Message-
From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 5:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Products to replicate Exchange data over the wire


Exchange 2K


:)

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Data Support Specialist
BT Ignite eSolutions


-Original Message-
From: wade robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 May 2002 12:31
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Products to replicate Exchange data over the wire


I am looking for a product that is able to replicate exchange data from
one
datacenter over the wire to another location.  Is there any products
that
provided this type of off site replication??

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RE: Products to replicate Exchange data over the wire (a solution ?)

2002-05-21 Thread Mark Arnold ()

http://www.amtsoft.com/geocluster/

Geocluster will replicate Exchange data to alternative data centres and
is supported by MS subject to being on the relevant HCLs and other key
parameters.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () 
Sent: 21 May 2002 14:59
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Products to replicate Exchange data over the wire

And as Martin suggested the answer wasn't the most helpful you've
submitted.
Mass redundancies are never funny but one must adopt a positive stance
in the face of adversity.
Now, about that solution for Wade, what do you think..

-Original Message-
From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 21 May 2002 14:54
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Products to replicate Exchange data over the wire

Doesn't really explain anything Mark. 3000 of my colleagues losing their
jobs isn't really a comical subject.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Data Support Specialist
BT Ignite eSolutions


-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold () [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 May 2002 14:39
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Products to replicate Exchange data over the wire


Explains why they're making 3000 ignite people redundant.


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 21 May 2002 14:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Products to replicate Exchange data over the wire

Huh?

-Original Message-
From: Louis Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 5:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Products to replicate Exchange data over the wire


Exchange 2K


:)

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Data Support Specialist
BT Ignite eSolutions


-Original Message-
From: wade robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 May 2002 12:31
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Products to replicate Exchange data over the wire


I am looking for a product that is able to replicate exchange data from
one
datacenter over the wire to another location.  Is there any products
that
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RE: Recovering a specific mailbox from backup

2002-05-21 Thread Mark Arnold ()

Usual option is a Disaster Recovery Restore onto alternative hardware,
either by DR restoring the entire box off the production LAN or by hot
spare recovery (which I tend to define as a server on the production
network with a live DS and blank stores onto which you restore the IS)
Once done, then export the mailbox to PST and import it into the newly
created mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Mustafa Ibrahim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 21 May 2002 15:20
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Recovering a specific mailbox from backup


Hi folks,

I need to recover a specific mailbox from backup tapes for exchange 5.5.
We
are no longer doing brick-level backup. Can anyone offer any advise on
this
as to how I can recover this particular mailbox without interrupting
users
on the system. Many thanks. 

Mustafa Ibrahim  

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RE: Emails

2002-05-20 Thread mark arnold

Sounds a little like you've got an open relay and the messages are being
received by your people as spam and also relayed elsewhere.
Check your system (IMS / smtp service) for relay

-Original Message-
From: Farquharson, Andrea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 20 May 2002 20:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Emails

Can someone explain to me how a Spam message comes into the company and
picks up two of our domain extensions?  Example: the Spam message came
from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  When it was received by one of our employees,
the
address had changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]@Day@Hoy (these domains are
just an example).

How did it pick up the 2 domain extensions and how can I block these
types
of messages?

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RE: Emails

2002-05-20 Thread mark arnold

Taught me.
Thanks.

-Original Message-
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Sent: 20 May 2002 20:31
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Emails

Or not.

 -Original Message-
 From: mark arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 2:16 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Emails
 
 
 Sounds a little like you've got an open relay and the 
 messages are being received by your people as spam and also 
 relayed elsewhere. Check your system (IMS / smtp service) for relay
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Farquharson, Andrea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 20 May 2002 20:09
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Emails
 
 Can someone explain to me how a Spam message comes into the 
 company and picks up two of our domain extensions?  Example: 
 the Spam message came from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  When it 
 was received by one of our employees, the address had changed 
 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]@Day@Hoy (these domains are just an example).
 
 How did it pick up the 2 domain extensions and how can I 
 block these types of messages?
 
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Re: PSS?

2002-05-17 Thread Mark Arnold

I'm glad this newsgroup goes into its own Public Folder Store. I foresee
exponential growth for a little while.

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 May 2002 16:27
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PSS?

Here it comes!

-Original Message-
From: Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: PSS?


I have seen alot of references to this in this list?
What is PSS?

Phil


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Re: MS Mail mjgration

2002-05-17 Thread Mark Arnold

The question came from a person who is employed in the Messaging and
Collaborative Services group within the UK central support facility, called
the DSMC (Distributed Services Management Cowboys).
His job is to support lots of different accounts as witnessed by the fact
that he sent the mail from a BP.com and a reply from a flsystems.co.uk
account.
Over on this side of the pond the 1st and 2nd line support is in place but
can be very intransigent and isn't that great. 3rd line support in EDS UK is
nigh non existent and no one will fart without a cost centre to book time
as. They have taken the leveraged support model to such an extent that
nothing works, no one knows who to talk to, where and when.
I too am horrified but not in the least bit surprised that an EDSer has had
to go to the web to ask this kind of question. None of them in DSMC seem to
use TechNet of the online KB for anything.
I like working for EDS but Christ, they sure make it difficult for you.

What makes me laugh is that I know the guy and know that he knows there are
two Exchange MVPs working in EDS and who they are, but still he emails the
newsgroup to ask a pretty basic question. All this from a group that touts
themselves as the last word in messaging for EDS customers.

M


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 May 2002 15:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Mail mjgration

I don't need to point out how silly that is right?

 -Original Message-
 From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 2:31 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: MS Mail mjgration


 Chris,

 Not really what happens is that each contract basically has
 to look after itself and cannot expect 'help' from a central
 source unless the contract is being held to ransom.

 Cheers

 Paul

 Standards are like toothbrushes,
 everybody agrees you should have one,
 but no one wants to use yours



 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 3:57 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: MS Mail mjgration


 http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/interop/MSmail.asp

 I've got to imagine that EDS has better docs internally on
 the subject, but here ya go... I don't think Microsoft really
 updated the MS Mail docs for E2K.

  -Original Message-
  From: Caisley, Simon (EDS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:00 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: MS Mail mjgration
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I'm sure this has been asked before but I can't find on
  microsoft.com so was hoping someone could send me this
  direct.  I am looking for a document on migrating from MS
  Mail to Exchange 5.5 and would be grateful if someone has a
  document or guide of some description they can pass on.


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Re: MS Mail migration

2002-05-17 Thread Mark Arnold

Unfortunately for the company it's nothing that hasn't repeatedly been
published in the IT press over here and Private Eye (www.private-eye.co.uk)
Ad Passim, Ad Nauseam, in recent years.
Give it a few more years and we'll be a smooth streamlined business


-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 May 2002 17:13
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Mail mjgration

Do you EDS'ers need to be airing the dirty wash here in public?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

Be who you are and say what you feel because those who matter don't mind,
and those who mind don't matter.



-Original Message-
From: Mark Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: MS Mail mjgration


The question came from a person who is employed in the Messaging and
Collaborative Services group within the UK central support facility, called
the DSMC (Distributed Services Management Cowboys).
His job is to support lots of different accounts as witnessed by the fact
that he sent the mail from a BP.com and a reply from a flsystems.co.uk
account.
Over on this side of the pond the 1st and 2nd line support is in place but
can be very intransigent and isn't that great. 3rd line support in EDS UK is
nigh non existent and no one will fart without a cost centre to book time
as. They have taken the leveraged support model to such an extent that
nothing works, no one knows who to talk to, where and when.
I too am horrified but not in the least bit surprised that an EDSer has had
to go to the web to ask this kind of question. None of them in DSMC seem to
use TechNet of the online KB for anything.
I like working for EDS but Christ, they sure make it difficult for you.

What makes me laugh is that I know the guy and know that he knows there are
two Exchange MVPs working in EDS and who they are, but still he emails the
newsgroup to ask a pretty basic question. All this from a group that touts
themselves as the last word in messaging for EDS customers.

M


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 May 2002 15:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Mail mjgration

I don't need to point out how silly that is right?

 -Original Message-
 From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 2:31 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: MS Mail mjgration


 Chris,

 Not really what happens is that each contract basically has
 to look after itself and cannot expect 'help' from a central
 source unless the contract is being held to ransom.

 Cheers

 Paul

 Standards are like toothbrushes,
 everybody agrees you should have one,
 but no one wants to use yours



 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 3:57 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: MS Mail mjgration


 http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/interop/MSmail.asp

 I've got to imagine that EDS has better docs internally on
 the subject, but here ya go... I don't think Microsoft really
 updated the MS Mail docs for E2K.

  -Original Message-
  From: Caisley, Simon (EDS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 7:00 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: MS Mail mjgration
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I'm sure this has been asked before but I can't find on
  microsoft.com so was hoping someone could send me this
  direct.  I am looking for a document on migrating from MS
  Mail to Exchange 5.5 and would be grateful if someone has a
  document or guide of some description they can pass on.


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Re: Mr. Coffee's Office up for grabs on Monday

2002-05-17 Thread Mark Arnold

I was just going to reply with the old swap the 21 and 24 routine until John
read the question right and moved only one number.
Phew, glad I avoided making a fool of myself and no one found me out.


- Original Message -
From: Chinnery Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 7:48 PM
Subject: RE: Mr. Coffee's Office up for grabs on Monday


 Well, here's an interesting solution my boss sent me:

 He included the total for the first column (21) to the list of the numbers
 by moving the '2' to right below the one.  This then adds 3 (2+1) to the
 first column giving a total equal to the second.

 2
 8
 3
 1
 7

 2
 1

 Paul Chinnery
 Network Administrator
 Mem Med Ctr


 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 2:10 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Mr. Coffee's Office up for grabs on Monday


 RAA!   Yeah, I'm stupid.  Thanks:-)

 -Original Message-
 From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 2:02 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Mr. Coffee's Office up for grabs on Monday


 turn the 9 upside down

 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 12:53 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: FW: Mr. Coffee's Office up for grabs on Monday


 Help would be greatly appreciated.

   -Original Message-
  From: Jerig, Tony
  Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 1:48 PM
  To: Burke, Sean; Gilligan, Todd; Coomer, Chris; Weber, Rick; Woodruff,
  Michael; Shumway, Neal; Rhodes, Kevin; Brown, Ted; Biller, Bradley;
  Wright, Aaron; Abner, Mary; Hingsbergen, Kathleen
  Subject: Mr. Coffee's Office up for grabs on Monday
 
  I will be out of the office Monday for vacation and Tuesday visiting
  HPM. Thought I would send out a couple of quizzes to offer up the
  office while I am out.
 
  Here is the first quiz.  First person to email me the correct answer
  gets the office for Monday.  I will send a second quiz for Tuesday's
  lodging.
 
  Quiz #1:
 
  Both of these columns of numbers add up to different totals.  Can you
  move just one number to make the totals equal?
 
   2
   8
   3
   1
   7
  21
 
   6
   4
   5
   9
  24
 
  Sorry Sean -- I don't think Google will help on this one.
 
  T.
 

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Re: MS Mail migration

2002-05-17 Thread Mark Arnold

It probably does with our lot, but hey, you all gotta know what's really
goin' on.
Now about the dirt in geac.

- Original Message -
From: John Matteson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 7:39 PM
Subject: RE: MS Mail migration


 I'd like to, but around here dirt dishing shovels come with pink slips
 attached.

 John Matteson; Exchange Manager
 Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
 (404) 239 - 2981

 Be who you are and say what you feel because those who matter don't mind,
 and those who mind don't matter.



 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 12:48 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: MS Mail migration


 Give us some GEAC dirt, John.  You know you want to.

  -Original Message-
  From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Posted At: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:46 AM
  Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
  Conversation: MS Mail migration
  Subject: RE: MS Mail migration
 
 
  Emily_LaTella
 
  Oh. Never mind.
 
  /Emily_LaTella
 
  John Matteson; Exchange Manager
  Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
  (404) 239 - 2981
 
  Be who you are and say what you feel because those who matter
  don't mind, and those who mind don't matter.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mark Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 12:36 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Re: MS Mail migration
 
 
  Unfortunately for the company it's nothing that hasn't
  repeatedly been published in the IT press over here and
  Private Eye (www.private-eye.co.uk) Ad Passim, Ad Nauseam, in
  recent years. Give it a few more years and we'll be a smooth
  streamlined business
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 17 May 2002 17:13
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: MS Mail mjgration
 
  Do you EDS'ers need to be airing the dirty wash here in public?
 
  John Matteson; Exchange Manager
  Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
  (404) 239 - 2981
 
  Be who you are and say what you feel because those who matter
  don't mind, and those who mind don't matter.
 

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Re: MS Mail mjgration

2002-05-16 Thread Mark Arnold

I'll send them toy your EDS mailbox Simon, if that's OK.

They're on TechNet, Articles entitled
Migrating from MS Mail for PC Networks
Migrating to MS Exchange Server 5.5 from Microsoft Mail
Also, TechNet Products  Technologies  Exchange Server  Product
Documentation Exchange Server 5.5 Product Documentation Chapter called
MIGRATION


Mark Arnold MCSE MVP(Exchange)


-Original Message-
From: Caisley, Simon (EDS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 16 May 2002 13:00
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MS Mail mjgration

Hi,

I'm sure this has been asked before but I can't find on microsoft.com so
was
hoping someone could send me this direct.  I am looking for a document
on
migrating from MS Mail to Exchange 5.5 and would be grateful if someone
has
a document or guide of some description they can pass on.

Best Regards,
Simon Caisley
EDS - I.Solutions
Core Infrastructure
EMEA Messaging  Collaborative Services

Tel: +44 (0) 191 5874075
Fax: +44 (0) 191 5181304
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intranet: http://www.groupware.emea.eds.com

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