Message size limits in place, server still affected by HUGE messages

2003-11-14 Thread Michel Erdmann
Hello,
 
I have several size limitations for messages in place (in 'Global
settings' for Message delivery in the whole organisation, at the
Internet Mail Connector) to prevent huge messages both internally and
externally. Although these limits are used, the server can still be
brought to its knees by sending huge messages.
 
The current limit is 10MB, but submitting a message with a 500MB
attachment (Yes, we actually have users who tried this. Worse: They had
no clue that was 'not done')
brought the server to a halt. Similar messages but smaller in size (for
example 75MB) kept the server really busy and many users were
disconnected but were eventually returned (you get a NDR with again the
original 75MB message inside  :-( But there is a KB Article that
explains how to strip/cut-off large messages.)
 
Is there a way to prevent these huge messages from being accepted and
processed by the server? The current limits are in place, but don't
prevent the server from processing anyway. I'm thinking of something
that would just disconnect the submit when a certain amount of data has
been reached, or better, check size before processing. The clients
mostly use Outlook/MAPI to connect.
 
Regards,
 
Michel Erdmann
 


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RE: All .COM / .NET domain names now exist

2003-09-19 Thread Michel Erdmann
VeriSign Sued Over Controversial Web Service:

An Internet search company on Thursday filed a $100 million antitrust
lawsuit against VeriSign Inc., accusing the Web address provider of
hijacking misspelled and unassigned Web addresses with a service it
launched this week.

Read more (source):

http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=internetNewsstoryID=3471297

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Clishe
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:22 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: All .COM / .NET domain names now exist
 
 I'm surprised how quiet this group is being regarding this 
 issue. This has potentially enormous ramifications. For one 
 thing, this effectively breaks reverse-DNS lookups that 
 anti-spam applications use to verify sending domains as being valid.
 
 Come on now, Verisign is masking the difference between a 
 valid domain and NXDOMAIN for all protocols, all users, and 
 all software. Doesn't anyone here have an opinion?
 
 Jason
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 8:02 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: All .COM / .NET domain names now exist
  
  
  
  [My apologies for the cross-post, but this has the potential
  to impact just
  about everybody who uses the Internet...]
  
As of a little while ago (it is around 7:45 PM US Eastern
  on Mon 15 Sep
  2003 as I write this), VeriSign added a wildcard A record to 
  the .COM and
  .NET TLD DNS zones.  The IP address returned is 
  64.94.110.11, which reverses
  to sitefinder.verisign.com.
  
What that means in plain English is that most mis-typed
  domain names that
  would formerly have resulted in a helpful error message now 
  results in a
  VeriSign advertising opportunity.  For example, if my 
 domain name was
  somecompany.com, and somebody typed soemcompany.com by 
  mistake, they
  would get VeriSign's advertising.
  
(VeriSign is a company which purchased Network Solutions,
  another company
  which was given the task by the US government of running the 
  .COM and .NET
  top-level domains (TLDs).  VeriSign has been exploiting the 
  Internet's DNS
  infrastructure ever since.)
  
This will have the immediate effect of making network
  trouble-shooting
  much more difficult.  Before, a mis-typed domain name in an 
  email address,
  web browser, or other network configuration item would result 
  in an obvious
  error message.  You might not have known what to do about it, 
  but at least
  you knew something was wrong.  Now, though, you will have to 
  guess.  Every
  time.
  
Some have pointed out that this will make an important
  anti-spam check
  impossible.  A common anti-spam measure is to check and make 
  sure the domain
  name of the sender really exists.  (While this is easy to 
 force, every
  little bit helps.)  Since all .COM and .NET domain names now 
  exist, that
  anti-spam check is useless.
  
VeriSign's commentary:
  
  http://www.verisign.com/resources/gd/sitefinder/implementation.pdf
  http://www.verisign.com/resources/gd/sitefinder/bestpractices.pdf
  
Third-party reference:
  
  http://www.cbronline.com/latestnews/d04afc52ae9da2ee80256d9c0018be8b
  
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RE: bridgehead/smtp best practices?

2003-07-10 Thread Michel Erdmann
 I also question your assertion that mailbox servers need more 
 frequent reboots. 

I've moved many of the special purpose mailboxes (for example listserver
list POP boxes, FAX Gateway) off the mailbox server. I'm in favour of
the general idea to separate them from plain mailbox servers, but not
because the mailbox server reboots more often: it's the opposite.
The (3rd party mostly) software which comes with these boxes and
connectors are mostly the problem. I can keep the mailbox server up and
running just fine and rarely reboot it.

Michel

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve B
 Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:37 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 I seem to be involved in a bit of philosophical debate and 
 want to get opinions from the field on this.
 
 Basically, I have some service mailboxes that I would 
 prefer not to run on regular mailbox servers. These 
 particular mailboxes do not hold any email, they are simply 
 needed for the cirictal operation of exchange dependant third 
 party services (like a peice of monitoring software that 
 needs its own mailbox). They pose no risk to any server and 
 do not need special attention. I feel better if they reside 
 on infrastructure servers such as bridgeheads or smtp 
 gateways since these servers tend to have less problems than 
 regular mailbox servers do (as far as is's stopping or 
 mailbox servers needing to be rebooted more often and then 
 large transaction logs replaying that contribute to a longer 
 down time for these services that rely on the mailbox).
 
 What do you guys/gals feel about this?

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RE: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?

2003-03-04 Thread Michel Erdmann
192.192.192.0 isn't a private range

RFC1918 states:

   The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved the
   following three blocks of the IP address space for private internets:

 10.0.0.0-   10.255.255.255  (10/8 prefix)
 172.16.0.0  -   172.31.255.255  (172.16/12 prefix)
 192.168.0.0 -   192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix)

I'm wondering why the remote servers doesn't block your mail, because
basically you are using them to relay. Must be because the remote mail
server sees your mail server as 'local' (some quick relay testing
for the tajen.edu.tw domain show correctly configured relay
restrictions)

Michel

 -Original Message-
 From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:07 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?
 
 
 I think I'm on to something
 
 The network here is a privately addressed LAN, 
 mailgate.partition.co.uk resolves to the firewall, which 
 forwards port 25 to the exchange server
 
 The LAN network address is 192.192.192.0/255.255.255.0 set up 
 before I arrived, I was a good engineer and gave the other 
 subnets 192.168.x.x ranges
 :)
 
 192.192.192.0 isnt a private range is it?
 
 When I put one of our server addresses into an IPWHOIS 
 search, this tajen.edu.tw domain comes up as the owner
 
 I guess I need to change the network address range here? Yuck
 
 Anything else or a possible workaround? We are WINS only, DNS 
 servers for internet access are at our ISP
 
 thanks
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange 
 Sent: 04 March 2003 15:42
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?
 
 
 Roger
 
 Sorry about that, just sent another email and generated the 
 following, you Can see the erroneuos .edu.tw domain here
 
 ===
  
  This is the Outlook Options as viewed by the recipient
  
 ===
 
 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Received: from eratosthenes by eratosthenes with 
 qmail-deliver  for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 4 Mar 2003 15:33:40 -
 X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Zen-Test-Header-Please-Ignore: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Envelope-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Zen-Virusscan-Flag: zen12940 - flag is unset
 Received: (qmail 17356 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 
 15:33:40 -
 Received: from parmenides.zen.co.uk (212.23.8.69)
   by eratosthenes.zen.co.uk with QMTP; 4 Mar 2003 15:33:40 -
 Received: (qmail 10266 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 
 15:33:40 -
 Received: from mailgate.partition.co.uk (HELO webserv.local) 
 (62.49.146.170)
   by parmenides.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 15:33:40 -
 X-Zen-Trace: 62.49.146.170
 Received: by medmgmt-15.tajen.edu.tw with Internet Mail Service
 (5.5.2650.21)
   id G259C6KT; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:34:41 -
 Message-ID: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: Niki Blowfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Test Message
 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:34:40 - 
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21)
 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
   boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01C2E263.92B511D8
 
 ===
  
  And this is logged by the IMS in event viewer on the sending server
  
 ===
 
 Delivery of message 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 w from [EMAIL PROTECTED] in temporary file G259C6KT was 
 attempted to host(s) 212.23.8.69 (for zen.co.uk) with 1 
 recipients delivered and 0 undliverable
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 04 March 2003 15:26
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?
 
 
 Post one that hasn't been modified. 
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:59 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?
  
  
  Hi
  
  Been asked to look at this for someone
  
  Server is Exch 5.5 SP3 running on NT4 SP6a
  
  Upon examining logs routinely, it seems outbound internet mail is 
  going via another IMS at another company
  
  The Edu.TW domain is nothing to do with us, and mail should 
 go direct 
  from ourdomain.co.uk to recipientsdomain.com
  
  I wont profess to being particularly well versed at reading mail 
  headers, but could someone suggest what the hell is going on here?
  
  Thanks;
  
  ===
  
  This is the Outlook Options as viewed by the recipient
  
  ===
  
  Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Received: from ourexchangserver.local 

RE: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?

2003-03-04 Thread Michel Erdmann
I think he could send mail to the tajen.edu.tw domain, as long as his
mail server IP address doesn't match the tajen.edu.tw MX IP itself.
He's using WINS only and uses external DNS servers.
I see options for keeping the address AND mailing tajen.edu.tw

;-)

Seriously: I would change IP ranges ASAP.

Michel

 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:35 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?
 
 
 Yes, or you'll never be able to send mail to tajen.edu.tw!
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Niki 
 Blowfield
 - Exchange
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 8:27 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?
 
 
 So I guess the best thing to do is, as quick as possible, 
 move over to a 192.168 address range
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Michel Erdmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 04 March 2003 16:25
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?
 
 
 192.192.192.0 isn't a private range
 
 RFC1918 states:
 
The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved the
following three blocks of the IP address space for private 
 internets:
 
  10.0.0.0-   10.255.255.255  (10/8 prefix)
  172.16.0.0  -   172.31.255.255  (172.16/12 prefix)
  192.168.0.0 -   192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix)
 
 I'm wondering why the remote servers doesn't block your mail, 
 because basically you are using them to relay. Must be 
 because the remote mail server sees your mail server as 
 'local' (some quick relay testing for the tajen.edu.tw 
 domain show correctly configured relay
 restrictions)
 
 Michel
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:07 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?
  
  
  I think I'm on to something
  
  The network here is a privately addressed LAN,
  mailgate.partition.co.uk resolves to the firewall, which 
 forwards port
 
  25 to the exchange server
  
  The LAN network address is 192.192.192.0/255.255.255.0 set 
 up before I
 
  arrived, I was a good engineer and gave the other subnets 
 192.168.x.x
  ranges
  :)
  
  192.192.192.0 isnt a private range is it?
  
  When I put one of our server addresses into an IPWHOIS search, this
  tajen.edu.tw domain comes up as the owner
  
  I guess I need to change the network address range here? Yuck
  
  Anything else or a possible workaround? We are WINS only, 
 DNS servers
  for internet access are at our ISP
  
  thanks
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange
  Sent: 04 March 2003 15:42
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?
  
  
  Roger
  
  Sorry about that, just sent another email and generated the 
 following,
 
  you Can see the erroneuos .edu.tw domain here
  
  ===
   
   This is the Outlook Options as viewed by the recipient
   
  ===
  
  Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Received: from eratosthenes by eratosthenes with qmail-deliver  for
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 4 Mar 2003 15:33:40 -
  X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  X-Zen-Test-Header-Please-Ignore: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  X-Envelope-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  X-Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  X-Zen-Virusscan-Flag: zen12940 - flag is unset
  Received: (qmail 17356 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003
  15:33:40 -
  Received: from parmenides.zen.co.uk (212.23.8.69)
by eratosthenes.zen.co.uk with QMTP; 4 Mar 2003 15:33:40 -
  Received: (qmail 10266 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 
  15:33:40 -
  Received: from mailgate.partition.co.uk (HELO webserv.local) 
  (62.49.146.170)
by parmenides.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 15:33:40 -
  X-Zen-Trace: 62.49.146.170
  Received: by medmgmt-15.tajen.edu.tw with Internet Mail Service
  (5.5.2650.21)
  id G259C6KT; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:34:41 -
  Message-ID: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  From: Niki Blowfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Test Message
  Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:34:40 - 
  MIME-Version: 1.0
  X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21)
  Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
  boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01C2E263.92B511D8
  
  ===
   
   And this is logged by the IMS in event viewer on the sending server
   
  ===
  
  Delivery of message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  w from [EMAIL PROTECTED] in temporary file G259C6KT was
  attempted to host(s) 212.23.8.69 (for zen.co.uk) with 1 recipients
  delivered

RE: New Exchange Server

2002-10-03 Thread Michel Erdmann

Eeeeuh, maybe because they had to 'exchange' a disk.

Michel

 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:52 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: New Exchange Server
 
 
 What does that have to do with Exchange?
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
 Technical Consultant
 hp Services
 There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral 
 problems.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
 Andrey Fyodorov
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 9:04 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: New Exchange Server
 
 
 Well once I had a broken RAID1 on the page file volume. RAID 
 did not save me. The server blue-screened. The RAID1 was 
 physical. How about that for reliability?

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RE: in-place upgrade to W2K (NOT Exchange 2000)

2002-03-22 Thread Michel Erdmann

We are running (and have performed the in-place upgrade) on Compaq hardware. I recall 
we used a special 'primer' utility from them just before starting the actual upgrade 
to remove the NT4 specific drivers/agents/software which were incompatible with 
Windows 2000.

Michel Erdmann

-Original Message-
From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 4:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: in-place upgrade to W2K (NOT Exchange 2000)


Tomorrow I am upgrading our mail servers from NT4/SP6a, Exchange 5.5(SP4) to
Windows 2000 Server/SP2.  Just an upgrade of the operating system, not
exchange 2000 or active directory.  Has anyone experienced any problems that
I need to know of, prior to the upgrade?  As far as I know, it should be a
seemless upgrade.  Stick in the CD-rom and let it do it's thing.  I will
have to upgrade our raid controllers firmware and nt driver and also
export/inport our verisign certificate to the new IIS.  That is all I can
think of...thanks for any advice before this critical task.


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RE: Invisible PF mail address after mixed to native mode

2002-01-24 Thread Michel Erdmann

I have the exact same problem and posted it to the Exchange 2000 list.
No repsonse.
If you indeed contacted PSS (I haven't until today), let me know if they
know the issue (and better, how to fix it)
Should this require a non-public fix, I'll call them as well.

Regards,

Michel Erdmann

-Original Message-
From: Jang Man [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Invisible PF mail address after mixed to native mode


Since I didn't get any feedback, is this question so trivial or have I
encountered something unusual and is time to call PSS?

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Jang Man
Ixtlan Team

-Original Message-
From: Jang Man 
Posted At: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 3:59 PM
Posted To: MS Exchange
Conversation: Invisible PF mail address after mixed to native mode
Subject: Invisible PF mail address after mixed to native mode


Morning,

Exchange 2000 SP2, single site/server.

I've changed mode from mixed to native today, because migration from 5.5
is long over. Now in System Manager half of tabs are missing on folders,
which were migrated from 5.5 system, those created on Ex2000 are ok. No
big problem, but e-mail tab is also missing, althou folders have SMTP
addresses. When I Mail enable the folder, all tabs are visible, but no
e-mail addresses there, until they are populated according to policy. 

But these are new mail addresses like:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is already valid address for this folder and
it works. But this one is not visible! I want to get those valid SMTP
addreses to be visible again. How?

tnx,
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RE: fix monitor

2002-01-10 Thread Michel Erdmann

I thought I would see 'Wayne's World' show up here sometime when a new
thread called something like Sarcasm on the list (NOT) was started
here a few days ago.

Party time, excellent

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: fix monitor


Richard, have you seen Waynes World?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 January 2002 12:50
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: fix monitor


Handsom Dan: Sure ok  hum  ok sure yeah got ya

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 7:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: fix monitor


No need. Just curious. Its Like when you listen to someone on the radio
everyday and you build a mental picture of what he/she looks like. And
more
often than not, they look nothing like you imagined.

Think 'Handsome Dan' in Waynes World.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 January 2002 19:16
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: fix monitor


Should I be concerned that photos of the lovely Kelly belly dancing led
to
this question?[1] ;-)

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

[1] I too have met Ed.[2]
[2] He wasn't belly dancing at the time.[3]
[3] Neither was I.[4]
[4] Kelly's whereabouts at the time are unaccounted for.


 -Original Message-
 From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 1:27 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: fix monitor
 
 
 Anyone ever wondered what Ed Crowley looks like?
 
 Regards
 
 Mr Louis Joyce
 Computer Support Analyst
 Network Administrator
 BT Ignite eSolutions
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 09 January 2002 10:18
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: fix monitor
 
 
 That would be her...
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Jerry W. Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 4:01 AM
 Subject: RE: fix monitor
 
 
  Is this pictures of you Kelly? 
  http://kellyborndale.homestead.com/photo.html
 
  Jerry W. Hubbard
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   Who, me?  I belly dance, and that is generally done barefoot. 
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   Roger:
  
  Has she flamencos danced on you with her high heels?
  
   John Matteson; Exchange Manager
   Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
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   it only because you yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha
  
  
  
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   From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:27 AM
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   Dude - Ms. Baker can take you. Trust me.
  
   And please know from experience you don't want to be on her 
   special list.