Message size limits in place, server still affected by HUGE messages

2003-11-14 Thread Michel Erdmann
Hello,
 
I have several size limitations for messages in place (in 'Global
settings' for Message delivery in the whole organisation, at the
Internet Mail Connector) to prevent huge messages both internally and
externally. Although these limits are used, the server can still be
brought to its knees by sending huge messages.
 
The current limit is 10MB, but submitting a message with a 500MB
attachment (Yes, we actually have users who tried this. Worse: They had
no clue that was 'not done')
brought the server to a halt. Similar messages but smaller in size (for
example 75MB) kept the server really busy and many users were
disconnected but were eventually returned (you get a NDR with again the
original 75MB message inside  :-( But there is a KB Article that
explains how to strip/cut-off large messages.)
 
Is there a way to prevent these huge messages from being accepted and
processed by the server? The current limits are in place, but don't
prevent the server from processing anyway. I'm thinking of something
that would just disconnect the submit when a certain amount of data has
been reached, or better, check size before processing. The clients
mostly use Outlook/MAPI to connect.
 
Regards,
 
Michel Erdmann
 


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RE: All .COM / .NET domain names now exist

2003-09-19 Thread Michel Erdmann
VeriSign Sued Over Controversial Web Service:

An Internet search company on Thursday filed a $100 million antitrust
lawsuit against VeriSign Inc., accusing the Web address provider of
hijacking misspelled and unassigned Web addresses with a service it
launched this week.

Read more (source):

http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=internetNews&storyID=3471297

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Clishe
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: All .COM / .NET domain names now exist
> 
> I'm surprised how quiet this group is being regarding this 
> issue. This has potentially enormous ramifications. For one 
> thing, this effectively breaks reverse-DNS lookups that 
> anti-spam applications use to verify sending domains as being valid.
> 
> Come on now, Verisign is masking the difference between a 
> valid domain and NXDOMAIN for all protocols, all users, and 
> all software. Doesn't anyone here have an opinion?
> 
> Jason
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 8:02 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: All .COM / .NET domain names now exist
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [My apologies for the cross-post, but this has the potential
> > to impact just
> > about everybody who uses the Internet...]
> > 
> >   As of a little while ago (it is around 7:45 PM US Eastern
> > on Mon 15 Sep
> > 2003 as I write this), VeriSign added a wildcard A record to 
> > the .COM and
> > .NET TLD DNS zones.  The IP address returned is 
> > <64.94.110.11>, which reverses
> > to .
> > 
> >   What that means in plain English is that most mis-typed
> > domain names that
> > would formerly have resulted in a helpful error message now 
> > results in a
> > VeriSign advertising opportunity.  For example, if my 
> domain name was
> > "somecompany.com", and somebody typed "soemcompany.com" by 
> > mistake, they
> > would get VeriSign's advertising.
> > 
> >   (VeriSign is a company which purchased Network Solutions,
> > another company
> > which was given the task by the US government of running the 
> > .COM and .NET
> > top-level domains (TLDs).  VeriSign has been exploiting the 
> > Internet's DNS
> > infrastructure ever since.)
> > 
> >   This will have the immediate effect of making network
> > trouble-shooting
> > much more difficult.  Before, a mis-typed domain name in an 
> > email address,
> > web browser, or other network configuration item would result 
> > in an obvious
> > error message.  You might not have known what to do about it, 
> > but at least
> > you knew something was wrong.  Now, though, you will have to 
> > guess.  Every
> > time.
> > 
> >   Some have pointed out that this will make an important
> > anti-spam check
> > impossible.  A common anti-spam measure is to check and make 
> > sure the domain
> > name of the sender really exists.  (While this is easy to 
> force, every
> > little bit helps.)  Since all .COM and .NET domain names now 
> > exist, that
> > anti-spam check is useless.
> > 
> >   VeriSign's commentary:
> > 
> > http://www.verisign.com/resources/gd/sitefinder/implementation.pdf
> > http://www.verisign.com/resources/gd/sitefinder/bestpractices.pdf
> > 
> >   Third-party reference:
> > 
> > http://www.cbronline.com/latestnews/d04afc52ae9da2ee80256d9c0018be8b
> > 
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RE: bridgehead/smtp best practices?

2003-07-10 Thread Michel Erdmann
> I also question your assertion that mailbox servers need more 
> frequent reboots. 

I've moved many of the special purpose mailboxes (for example listserver
list POP boxes, FAX Gateway) off the mailbox server. I'm in favour of
the general idea to separate them from plain mailbox servers, but not
because the mailbox server reboots more often: it's the opposite.
The (3rd party mostly) software which comes with these boxes and
connectors are mostly the problem. I can keep the mailbox server up and
running just fine and rarely reboot it.

Michel

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve B
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:37 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> I seem to be involved in a bit of philosophical debate and 
> want to get opinions from the field on this.
> 
> Basically, I have some "service mailboxes" that I would 
> prefer not to run on regular mailbox servers. These 
> particular mailboxes do not hold any email, they are simply 
> needed for the cirictal operation of exchange dependant third 
> party services (like a peice of monitoring software that 
> needs its own mailbox). They pose no risk to any server and 
> do not need special attention. I feel better if they reside 
> on infrastructure servers such as bridgeheads or smtp 
> gateways since these servers tend to have less problems than 
> regular mailbox servers do (as far as is's stopping or 
> mailbox servers needing to be rebooted more often and then 
> large transaction logs replaying that contribute to a longer 
> down time for these services that rely on the mailbox).
> 
> What do you guys/gals feel about this?

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RE: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?

2003-03-04 Thread Michel Erdmann
I think he could send mail to the tajen.edu.tw domain, as long as his
mail server IP address doesn't match the tajen.edu.tw MX IP itself.
He's using WINS only and uses external DNS servers.
I see options for keeping the address AND mailing tajen.edu.tw

;-)

Seriously: I would change IP ranges ASAP.

Michel

> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:35 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?
> 
> 
> Yes, or you'll never be able to send mail to tajen.edu.tw!
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Niki 
> Blowfield
> - Exchange
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 8:27 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?
> 
> 
> So I guess the best thing to do is, as quick as possible, 
> move over to a 192.168 address range
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Michel Erdmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 04 March 2003 16:25
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?
> 
> 
> 192.192.192.0 isn't a private range
> 
> RFC1918 states:
> 
>The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved the
>following three blocks of the IP address space for private 
> internets:
> 
>  10.0.0.0-   10.255.255.255  (10/8 prefix)
>  172.16.0.0  -   172.31.255.255  (172.16/12 prefix)
>  192.168.0.0 -   192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix)
> 
> I'm wondering why the remote servers doesn't block your mail, 
> because basically you are using them to relay. Must be 
> because the remote mail server sees your mail server as 
> 'local' (some quick relay testing for the tajen.edu.tw 
> domain show correctly configured relay
> restrictions)
> 
> Michel
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:07 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?
> > 
> > 
> > I think I'm on to something
> > 
> > The network here is a privately addressed LAN,
> > mailgate.partition.co.uk resolves to the firewall, which 
> forwards port
> 
> > 25 to the exchange server
> > 
> > The LAN network address is 192.192.192.0/255.255.255.0 set 
> up before I
> 
> > arrived, I was a good engineer and gave the other subnets 
> 192.168.x.x
> > ranges
> > :)
> > 
> > 192.192.192.0 isnt a private range is it?
> > 
> > When I put one of our server addresses into an IPWHOIS search, this
> > tajen.edu.tw domain comes up as the owner
> > 
> > I guess I need to change the network address range here? Yuck
> > 
> > Anything else or a possible workaround? We are WINS only, 
> DNS servers
> > for internet access are at our ISP
> > 
> > thanks
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange
> > Sent: 04 March 2003 15:42
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?
> > 
> > 
> > Roger
> > 
> > Sorry about that, just sent another email and generated the 
> following,
> 
> > you Can see the erroneuos .edu.tw domain here
> > 
> > ===
> >  
> >  This is the Outlook Options as viewed by the recipient
> >  
> > ===
> > 
> > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Received: from eratosthenes by eratosthenes with qmail-deliver  for
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 4 Mar 2003 15:33:40 -
> > X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > X-Zen-Test-Header-Please-Ignore: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > X-Envelope-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > X-Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > X-Zen-Virusscan-Flag: zen12940 -> flag is unset
> > Received: (qmail 17356 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003
> > 15:33:40 -
> > Received: from parmenides.zen.co.uk (212.23.8.69)
> >   by eratosthenes.zen.co.uk with QMTP; 4 Mar 2003 15:33:40 -
> > Received: (qmail 10266 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 
> > 15:33:40 -
> > Received: from mailgate.partition.co.uk (HELO webserv.local) 
> > (62.49.146.170)
> >   by parmenides.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 4 Mar 200

RE: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?

2003-03-04 Thread Michel Erdmann
192.192.192.0 isn't a private range

RFC1918 states:

   The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved the
   following three blocks of the IP address space for private internets:

 10.0.0.0-   10.255.255.255  (10/8 prefix)
 172.16.0.0  -   172.31.255.255  (172.16/12 prefix)
 192.168.0.0 -   192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix)

I'm wondering why the remote servers doesn't block your mail, because
basically you are using them to relay. Must be because the remote mail
server sees your mail server as 'local' (some quick relay testing
for the tajen.edu.tw domain show correctly configured relay
restrictions)

Michel

> -Original Message-
> From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 5:07 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?
> 
> 
> I think I'm on to something
> 
> The network here is a privately addressed LAN, 
> mailgate.partition.co.uk resolves to the firewall, which 
> forwards port 25 to the exchange server
> 
> The LAN network address is 192.192.192.0/255.255.255.0 set up 
> before I arrived, I was a good engineer and gave the other 
> subnets 192.168.x.x ranges
> :)
> 
> 192.192.192.0 isnt a private range is it?
> 
> When I put one of our server addresses into an IPWHOIS 
> search, this tajen.edu.tw domain comes up as the owner
> 
> I guess I need to change the network address range here? Yuck
> 
> Anything else or a possible workaround? We are WINS only, DNS 
> servers for internet access are at our ISP
> 
> thanks
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange 
> Sent: 04 March 2003 15:42
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?
> 
> 
> Roger
> 
> Sorry about that, just sent another email and generated the 
> following, you Can see the erroneuos .edu.tw domain here
> 
> ===
>  
>  This is the Outlook Options as viewed by the recipient
>  
> ===
> 
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Received: from eratosthenes by eratosthenes with 
> qmail-deliver  for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 4 Mar 2003 15:33:40 -
> X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-Zen-Test-Header-Please-Ignore: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-Envelope-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> X-Zen-Virusscan-Flag: zen12940 -> flag is unset
> Received: (qmail 17356 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 
> 15:33:40 -
> Received: from parmenides.zen.co.uk (212.23.8.69)
>   by eratosthenes.zen.co.uk with QMTP; 4 Mar 2003 15:33:40 -
> Received: (qmail 10266 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 
> 15:33:40 -
> Received: from mailgate.partition.co.uk (HELO webserv.local) 
> (62.49.146.170)
>   by parmenides.zen.co.uk with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 15:33:40 -
> X-Zen-Trace: 62.49.146.170
> Received: by medmgmt-15.tajen.edu.tw with Internet Mail Service
> (5.5.2650.21)
>   id ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:34:41 -
> Message-ID: 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: Niki Blowfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Test Message
> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:34:40 - 
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21)
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>   boundary="_=_NextPart_001_01C2E263.92B511D8"
> 
> ===
>  
>  And this is logged by the IMS in event viewer on the sending server
>  
> ===
> 
> Delivery of message 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> w> from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in temporary file G259C6KT was 
> attempted to host(s) 212.23.8.69 (for zen.co.uk) with 1 
> recipients delivered and 0 undliverable
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 04 March 2003 15:26
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?
> 
> 
> Post one that hasn't been modified. 
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:59 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Internet mail taking an obscure extra step?
> > 
> > 
> > Hi
> > 
> > Been asked to look at this for someone
> > 
> > Server is Exch 5.5 SP3 running on NT4 SP6a
> > 
> > Upon examining logs routinely, it seems outbound internet mail is 
> > going via another IMS at another company
> > 
> > The Edu.TW domain is nothing to do with us, and mail should 
> go direct 
> > from ourdomain.co.uk to recipientsdomain.com
> > 
> > I wont profess to being particularly well versed at reading mail 
> > headers, but could someone suggest what the hell is going on here?
> > 
> > Thanks;
> > 
> > ===
> > 
> > This is the Outlook Options as 

RE: New Exchange Server

2002-10-03 Thread Michel Erdmann

Eeeeuh, maybe because they had to 'exchange' a disk.

Michel

> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: New Exchange Server
> 
> 
> What does that have to do with Exchange?
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
> Technical Consultant
> hp Services
> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral 
> problems."
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> Andrey Fyodorov
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 9:04 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: New Exchange Server
> 
> 
> Well once I had a broken RAID1 on the page file volume. RAID 
> did not save me. The server blue-screened. The RAID1 was 
> physical. How about that for reliability?

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RE: in-place upgrade to W2K (NOT Exchange 2000)

2002-03-22 Thread Michel Erdmann

We are running (and have performed the in-place upgrade) on Compaq hardware. I recall 
we used a special 'primer' utility from them just before starting the actual upgrade 
to remove the NT4 specific drivers/agents/software which were incompatible with 
Windows 2000.

Michel Erdmann

-Original Message-
From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 4:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: in-place upgrade to W2K (NOT Exchange 2000)


Tomorrow I am upgrading our mail servers from NT4/SP6a, Exchange 5.5(SP4) to
Windows 2000 Server/SP2.  Just an upgrade of the operating system, not
exchange 2000 or active directory.  Has anyone experienced any problems that
I need to know of, prior to the upgrade?  As far as I know, it "should" be a
seemless upgrade.  Stick in the CD-rom and let it do it's thing.  I will
have to upgrade our raid controllers firmware and nt driver and also
export/inport our verisign certificate to the new IIS.  That is all I can
think of...thanks for any advice before this critical task.


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RE: Invisible PF mail address after mixed to native mode

2002-01-24 Thread Michel Erdmann

I have the exact same problem and posted it to the Exchange 2000 list.
No repsonse.
If you indeed contacted PSS (I haven't until today), let me know if they
know the issue (and better, how to fix it)
Should this require a non-public fix, I'll call them as well.

Regards,

Michel Erdmann

-Original Message-
From: Jang Man [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Invisible PF mail address after mixed to native mode


Since I didn't get any feedback, is this question so trivial or have I
encountered something unusual and is time to call PSS?

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-Original Message-
From: Jang Man 
Posted At: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 3:59 PM
Posted To: MS Exchange
Conversation: Invisible PF mail address after mixed to native mode
Subject: Invisible PF mail address after mixed to native mode


Morning,

Exchange 2000 SP2, single site/server.

I've changed mode from mixed to native today, because migration from 5.5
is long over. Now in System Manager half of tabs are missing on folders,
which were migrated from 5.5 system, those created on Ex2000 are ok. No
big problem, but e-mail tab is also missing, althou folders have SMTP
addresses. When I Mail enable the folder, all tabs are visible, but no
e-mail addresses there, until they are populated according to policy. 

But these are new mail addresses like:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is already valid address for this folder and
it works. But this one is not visible! I want to get those valid SMTP
addreses to be visible again. How?

tnx,
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RE: Going to Native mode in Exchange 2000

2002-01-21 Thread Michel Erdmann

Both the testlab and production network in native mode.
Some events were logged after the switch, but disappeared after the
first reboot after the switch.
(No issues in the meantime though, just the events)

Michel

-Original Message-
From: Mark Peoples [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 1:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Going to Native mode in Exchange 2000


yep, finishing it for my production network as of tonight.

MP

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2002 8:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Going to Native mode in Exchange 2000


Yep... Done it in my lab several times. ;)

> -Original Message-
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> 
> 
> Does any one have any experience in shutting down Exchange 
> 5.5 and converting a mixed site to pure, native Exchange 2000 ?
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RE: Anti Spam

2002-01-11 Thread Michel Erdmann

Or maybe start a page like this:

http://petemoss.com/spamflames/ShifmanIsAMoronSpammer.html

(Although Shifman cannot be stopped, so you still need software to be
protected from him)

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 6:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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FAQ.

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."


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Can someone recommend a good (cheaper if possible) anti spam product.

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RE: fix monitor

2002-01-10 Thread Michel Erdmann

I thought I would see 'Wayne's World' show up here sometime when a new
thread called something like "Sarcasm on the list (NOT)" was started
here a few days ago.

Party time, excellent

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:51 PM
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Richard, have you seen Waynes World?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 January 2002 12:50
To: Exchange Discussions
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Handsom Dan: Sure ok  hum  ok sure yeah got ya

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 7:43 AM
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No need. Just curious. Its Like when you listen to someone on the radio
everyday and you build a mental picture of what he/she looks like. And
more
often than not, they look nothing like you imagined.

Think 'Handsome Dan' in Waynes World.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
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Sent: 09 January 2002 19:16
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Should I be concerned that photos of the lovely Kelly belly dancing led
to
this question?[1] ;-)

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

[1] I too have met Ed.[2]
[2] He wasn't belly dancing at the time.[3]
[3] Neither was I.[4]
[4] Kelly's whereabouts at the time are unaccounted for.


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> Anyone ever wondered what Ed Crowley looks like?
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