RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
There are so many responses to this but my head just exploded. -Original Message- From: Craig Manske [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange Sorry our admin proxys out microsoft.com, he says since they're criminals he rates their site right up there with hacking and porn sites. :) -cm > -Original Message- > From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:41 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange > > > Gee, ever been to www.microsoft.com/exchange ? > > "If a trainstation is where the train stops, what's a > workstation...?" -Anon > > -Original Message- > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:45 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange > > > Don where all the white papers at!! > > -Original Message- > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:44 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange > > > I dont have a big enough tape drive to do a full back this suxs > > -Original Message- > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:38 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange > > > Personally I backup EVERYTHING on the Exch server > > > -Original Message- > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange > > > > Hello All, > > I have backup exec 8.5 with exchange client installed > on a NT Server > SP6. I would like to know if I have to back up the exchange > directories > located under the c drive. Because I have exchange agent > installed and I > tell it to back it up Full I should be backing these > directories up allready > right. So if I go under selections can I uncheck the > exchsrvr diectory and > still backup this IS. > > Thanks > Rich > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Recovering Deleted Items
Is this it? Q178630 __ Greg Monahon Rational Software Corporation IT Corporate Postmaster v. 781.676.2435 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] w. http://terp.rational.com/email -Original Message- From: Jonathan Beeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 10:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Recovering Deleted Items I recently rebuilt my PC and I had a utility that enabled me to recover deleted items from all folders, not just the deleted items folder. For instance, if a user presses on an item in their inbox, I can still recover it. Does anyone know how to configure this feature? Thanks in advance _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Changing service account passwords
I guess that is where I'm falling short. Thanks for the tip. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 7:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Changing service account passwords Thats's set in the account policy. - Original Message ----- From: "Monahon, Gregory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 5:50 PM Subject: RE: Changing service account passwords > Sure, that make goods sense to me but I keep hearing about "lockup" > and that > Exchange will fail to run. I guess what I don't understand is how this would > happen? If there is no password lockout set, what is the problem? > Right? > > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 5:47 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: Changing service account passwords > > > Just do what MS said and change the password. Look at it this way; > it's a great way for you to document all the non-Exchange and > non-authorized uses of that account. Exchange will take care of itself > leaving only the rest of > the world to complain that they can no long log in. Then you can clean > it up. > > - Original Message - > From: "Monahon, Gregory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:19 AM > Subject: Changing service account passwords > > > > Exchange 5.5 sp4+ W2K (multisite, 35 servers worldwide) > > > > All, > > > > I'm starting the legwork for this project. Talked to MS already but > > they don't see beyond Exchange. (simple, just change it and let it > > replicate) > > > > I've inherited a very old and mismanaged system. Everyone knows the > service > > account and it probably used in a variety of differant ways > > attaching to > the > > Exchange system. > > > > Does anyone know of any utilites to interrogate where and how the > > service account is being used. I know this can be a horror show so I > > want to make sure I have as many bases covered as possible. > > > > Thanks > > Greg > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Changing service account passwords
Sure, that make goods sense to me but I keep hearing about "lockup" and that Exchange will fail to run. I guess what I don't understand is how this would happen? If there is no password lockout set, what is the problem? Right? -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 5:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Changing service account passwords Just do what MS said and change the password. Look at it this way; it's a great way for you to document all the non-Exchange and non-authorized uses of that account. Exchange will take care of itself leaving only the rest of the world to complain that they can no long log in. Then you can clean it up. - Original Message ----- From: "Monahon, Gregory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:19 AM Subject: Changing service account passwords > Exchange 5.5 sp4+ W2K (multisite, 35 servers worldwide) > > All, > > I'm starting the legwork for this project. Talked to MS already but > they don't see beyond Exchange. (simple, just change it and let it > replicate) > > I've inherited a very old and mismanaged system. Everyone knows the service > account and it probably used in a variety of differant ways attaching > to the > Exchange system. > > Does anyone know of any utilites to interrogate where and how the > service account is being used. I know this can be a horror show so I > want to make sure I have as many bases covered as possible. > > Thanks > Greg > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changing service account passwords
Exchange 5.5 sp4+ W2K (multisite, 35 servers worldwide) All, I'm starting the legwork for this project. Talked to MS already but they don't see beyond Exchange. (simple, just change it and let it replicate) I've inherited a very old and mismanaged system. Everyone knows the service account and it probably used in a variety of differant ways attaching to the Exchange system. Does anyone know of any utilites to interrogate where and how the service account is being used. I know this can be a horror show so I want to make sure I have as many bases covered as possible. Thanks Greg _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Urgent!
Have the arabs taken the blame or is this all speculation? -Original Message- From: Craig Manske [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Urgent! The sad part of this is that many innocent Arab American are going to be attacked by other ignorant Americans. -cm > -Original Message- > From: Barry Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:21 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Urgent! > > > I was talking to my GF on the phone just a bit ago and she > said she saw the > footage of the palestinians celebrating... Just before it was > posted here. > > It's sad that we all can't just get along. > :( > > Barry > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Josefowski, > Larry > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:13 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Urgent! > > > Haven't seen it, and I hope that it is not true. I simply > forwarded what I > heard, but was not intending to swipe at any religion. I > believe that all > religions, including Christianity, have been perverted beyond what the > founders intended. I suspect that whoever did this (and it > looks like a > Palestinian thing) has seriously miscalculated the power of > an angry United > States. We are very opinionated, and are usually very diverse in our > opinion which is sometimes viewed, I think, as weakness. I > truly hope that > God has mercy on their souls. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:05 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Urgent! > > > Yeah but does the Q'uran tell them to have parties in the friggin > streets after this tragedy??? > > Just watched footage of the reaction of the people in > Palestine... Yes, > they are CELEBRATING! > > I hope we crash the party. Literally. > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
We use Trend. It requires a password. Still, even if they do figure out how to disable it and they try to move the virus, we'll catch it in Exchange, if the try to move it via the SMTP gateway, we'll get it at the IMC. If they somehow get it to another machine, we'll get it with that installation. The Trend console (TVCS) allows us to monitor what patterns are installed and who's infected with what. We can force an install if need be. But you need to understand; here the majority of the user base is fine with virus protection. They want it. They understand the importance of it and know its policy. They're willing to work with us. Anyone who doesn't shoots themselves in the foot and we contact their manager. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 5:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail How do you enforce scanning the desktops (I assume you mean something is loading like CA InoculateIt)? What's to keep Joe User from disabling it? - Original Message - From: "Monahon, Gregory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:14 PM Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail > We scan incoming and outgoing and the IMCs. > We scan the desktops, servers, and the mail store. > We'll catch it one way or the other. > > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:54 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail > > > Well, pop mail doesn't come in anywhere except the client. The client sends > using SMTP and does this via relaying. So you're saying you can scan mail > that is being bounced off the external IMS interface? > > - Original Message - > From: "Monahon, Gregory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:36 PM > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail > > > > Okay, different management style here. > > > > We are scanning all our pop mail coming into the organization for > > viruses and spam content so it's not really a concern. We prefer to > > foster a > healthy > > working relationship with our customers. > > > > We are winning our POP battle through attrition and the method I > > described below. IT is also gaining the respect of our users, > > something that was missing before the new regime was installed and > > changed the process. > > > > It depends what important to you, and maybe how big ones ego is. > > > > Cheers. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:16 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail > > > > > > > > I disagree. When your users are using external POP3 mail that's not > > under your control, it voids all of your virus/content filtering/etc. > > etc. protection you've employed. He's exactly right on what he wants > > to do. > > > > S. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Monahon, Gregory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:11 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail > > > > > > You may be going about it wrong. > > > > Instead of forcing users off POP and pissing off the user base, > aggressively > > promote the advantages of Exchange combined with the Outlook for > scheduling, > > calendaring, list services, OWA, backups etc. > > > > As the company and managers begin to realize the benefits of these > > value added solutions, you may begin to see some changes. When the > > POP users dwindle down to a cranky few, then you pull out the baseball > > bat. > > > > Revolutions usually begin quietly. > > > > Greg > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:53 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail > > > > > > And if you block POP3 in your firewall, it means your employees or > > administration can't pick up their email at home. > > > > > > > > Bob > > > &
RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
We're at 3500 employees. I'm not saying we don't have standards. We just have a different way of implementing them. -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail I agree. I've been with my current company for 10 years, but we've totally evolved into a completely different company than we started out with. In The Beginning, we could do things by the seat of our pants and we didn't enforce standards and we didn't audit workstations ... and then the SBC came in and we paid for it big time. We also had virus outbreaks on a weekly basis, sometimes over 100,000 files were infected in a day. People would move PCs around at will and then wonder why nothing worked. It's been particularly painful for me, an anarchist at heart, to "conform" and to enforce standards and rules but the payoff can be enormous. We have not had one single incident of virus infection here in over three years. Scanmail has gone a long way towards achieving that goal, and Mcafee on the desktop (although I don't like the product) is getting better at doing things automagickally. We all prefer to foster a healthy working relationship - that comment has nothing to do with what we are talking about here. One man's milk is another man's poison. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail Actually, I think it depends on what type/size of business you're part of. If you have 20-200 users, you can afford to be more flexible. If your client base is 15000+ the only way you can manage it is to establish standards and follow them religiously and prevent users from deviating from it, unless there is a business reason to do so. At that point, you reevaluate your standards and modify them to accommodate the need. S./ PS: I've respectfully stated my opinion. You can choose to agree or disagree with it. Your ego comment is irrelevant and in poor taste. -Original Message- From: Monahon, Gregory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail Okay, different management style here. We are scanning all our pop mail coming into the organization for viruses and spam content so it's not really a concern. We prefer to foster a healthy working relationship with our customers. We are winning our POP battle through attrition and the method I described below. IT is also gaining the respect of our users, something that was missing before the new regime was installed and changed the process. It depends what important to you, and maybe how big ones ego is. Cheers. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail I disagree. When your users are using external POP3 mail that's not under your control, it voids all of your virus/content filtering/etc. etc. protection you've employed. He's exactly right on what he wants to do. S. -Original Message- From: Monahon, Gregory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail You may be going about it wrong. Instead of forcing users off POP and pissing off the user base, aggressively promote the advantages of Exchange combined with the Outlook for scheduling, calendaring, list services, OWA, backups etc. As the company and managers begin to realize the benefits of these value added solutions, you may begin to see some changes. When the POP users dwindle down to a cranky few, then you pull out the baseball bat. Revolutions usually begin quietly. Greg -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:53 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail And if you block POP3 in your firewall, it means your employees or administration can't pick up their email at home. Bob -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail But that is only about 25% of the battle, you also need to stop port 80 email as well, and there are only about a million of those. Jeffrey R. Waters Senior Systems Engineer Information Technology, Hanover County -Original Message- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:
RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
We scan incoming and outgoing and the IMCs. We scan the desktops, servers, and the mail store. We'll catch it one way or the other. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail Well, pop mail doesn't come in anywhere except the client. The client sends using SMTP and does this via relaying. So you're saying you can scan mail that is being bounced off the external IMS interface? - Original Message - From: "Monahon, Gregory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:36 PM Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail > Okay, different management style here. > > We are scanning all our pop mail coming into the organization for > viruses and spam content so it's not really a concern. We prefer to > foster a healthy > working relationship with our customers. > > We are winning our POP battle through attrition and the method I > described below. IT is also gaining the respect of our users, > something that was missing before the new regime was installed and > changed the process. > > It depends what important to you, and maybe how big ones ego is. > > Cheers. > > -Original Message- > From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:16 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail > > > > I disagree. When your users are using external POP3 mail that's not > under your control, it voids all of your virus/content filtering/etc. > etc. protection you've employed. He's exactly right on what he wants > to do. > > S. > > -Original Message- > From: Monahon, Gregory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:11 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail > > > You may be going about it wrong. > > Instead of forcing users off POP and pissing off the user base, aggressively > promote the advantages of Exchange combined with the Outlook for scheduling, > calendaring, list services, OWA, backups etc. > > As the company and managers begin to realize the benefits of these > value added solutions, you may begin to see some changes. When the > POP users dwindle down to a cranky few, then you pull out the baseball > bat. > > Revolutions usually begin quietly. > > Greg > > -Original Message- > From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:53 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail > > > And if you block POP3 in your firewall, it means your employees or > administration can't pick up their email at home. > > > > Bob > > -Original Message- > From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:34 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail > > > But that is only about 25% of the battle, you also need to stop port > 80 email as well, and there are only about a million of those. > > Jeffrey R. Waters > Senior Systems Engineer > Information Technology, Hanover County > > > -Original Message- > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:48 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail > > > Firewall? Block the POP3 port. > > > -Original Message- > > From: James Casstevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:44 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail > > > > > > Is there a way to prevent users from using (for example) AOL or any > > other 3rd party POP3 mail clients. We want to force our users to > > use only our exchange server for their e-mail. Can this be done? > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Arch
RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
Okay, different management style here. We are scanning all our pop mail coming into the organization for viruses and spam content so it's not really a concern. We prefer to foster a healthy working relationship with our customers. We are winning our POP battle through attrition and the method I described below. IT is also gaining the respect of our users, something that was missing before the new regime was installed and changed the process. It depends what important to you, and maybe how big ones ego is. Cheers. -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail I disagree. When your users are using external POP3 mail that's not under your control, it voids all of your virus/content filtering/etc. etc. protection you've employed. He's exactly right on what he wants to do. S. -Original Message- From: Monahon, Gregory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail You may be going about it wrong. Instead of forcing users off POP and pissing off the user base, aggressively promote the advantages of Exchange combined with the Outlook for scheduling, calendaring, list services, OWA, backups etc. As the company and managers begin to realize the benefits of these value added solutions, you may begin to see some changes. When the POP users dwindle down to a cranky few, then you pull out the baseball bat. Revolutions usually begin quietly. Greg -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:53 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail And if you block POP3 in your firewall, it means your employees or administration can't pick up their email at home. Bob -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail But that is only about 25% of the battle, you also need to stop port 80 email as well, and there are only about a million of those. Jeffrey R. Waters Senior Systems Engineer Information Technology, Hanover County -Original Message- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail Firewall? Block the POP3 port. > -Original Message- > From: James Casstevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:44 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail > > > Is there a way to prevent users from using (for example) AOL or any > other 3rd party POP3 mail clients. We want to force our users to > use only our > exchange server for their e-mail. Can this be done? > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
You may be going about it wrong. Instead of forcing users off POP and pissing off the user base, aggressively promote the advantages of Exchange combined with the Outlook for scheduling, calendaring, list services, OWA, backups etc. As the company and managers begin to realize the benefits of these value added solutions, you may begin to see some changes. When the POP users dwindle down to a cranky few, then you pull out the baseball bat. Revolutions usually begin quietly. Greg -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:53 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail And if you block POP3 in your firewall, it means your employees or administration can't pick up their email at home. Bob -Original Message- From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail But that is only about 25% of the battle, you also need to stop port 80 email as well, and there are only about a million of those. Jeffrey R. Waters Senior Systems Engineer Information Technology, Hanover County -Original Message- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail Firewall? Block the POP3 port. > -Original Message- > From: James Casstevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:44 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail > > > Is there a way to prevent users from using (for example) AOL > or any other > 3rd party POP3 mail clients. We want to force our users to > use only our > exchange server for their e-mail. Can this be done? > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
