We're at 3500 employees.
I'm not saying we don't have standards.
We just have a different way of implementing them.
-----Original Message-----
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
I agree. I've been with my current company for 10 years, but we've totally
evolved into a completely different company than we started out with. In
The Beginning, we could do things by the seat of our pants and we didn't
enforce standards and we didn't audit workstations ... and then the SBC came
in and we paid for it big time. We also had virus outbreaks on a weekly
basis, sometimes over 100,000 files were infected in a day. People would
move PCs around at will and then wonder why nothing worked.
It's been particularly painful for me, an anarchist at heart, to "conform"
and to enforce standards and rules but the payoff can be enormous. We have
not had one single incident of virus infection here in over three years.
Scanmail has gone a long way towards achieving that goal, and Mcafee on the
desktop (although I don't like the product) is getting better at doing
things automagickally.
We all prefer to foster a healthy working relationship - that comment has
nothing to do with what we are talking about here. One man's milk is
another man's poison.
-----Original Message-----
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
Actually, I think it depends on what type/size of business you're part of.
If you have 20-200 users, you can afford to be more flexible. If your
client base is 15000+ the only way you can manage it is to establish
standards and follow them religiously and prevent users from deviating from
it, unless there is a business reason to do so. At that point, you
reevaluate your standards and modify them to accommodate the need.
S./
PS: I've respectfully stated my opinion. You can choose to agree or
disagree with it. Your ego comment is irrelevant and in poor taste.
-----Original Message-----
From: Monahon, Gregory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
Okay, different management style here.
We are scanning all our pop mail coming into the organization for viruses
and spam content so it's not really a concern. We prefer to foster a healthy
working relationship with our customers.
We are winning our POP battle through attrition and the method I described
below. IT is also gaining the respect of our users, something that was
missing before the new regime was installed and changed the process.
It depends what important to you, and maybe how big ones ego is.
Cheers.
-----Original Message-----
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
I disagree. When your users are using external POP3 mail that's not under
your control, it voids all of your virus/content filtering/etc. etc.
protection you've employed. He's exactly right on what he wants to do.
S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Monahon, Gregory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
You may be going about it wrong.
Instead of forcing users off POP and pissing off the user base, aggressively
promote the advantages of Exchange combined with the Outlook for scheduling,
calendaring, list services, OWA, backups etc.
As the company and managers begin to realize the benefits of these value
added solutions, you may begin to see some changes. When the POP users
dwindle down to a cranky few, then you pull out the baseball bat.
Revolutions usually begin quietly.
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
And if you block POP3 in your firewall, it means your employees or
administration can't pick up their email at home.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
But that is only about 25% of the battle, you also need to stop port 80
email as well, and there are only about a million of those.
Jeffrey R. Waters
Senior Systems Engineer
Information Technology, Hanover County
-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
Firewall? Block the POP3 port.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Casstevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:44 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Forcing users to use only our exchange server for mail
>
>
> Is there a way to prevent users from using (for example) AOL or any
> other 3rd party POP3 mail clients. We want to force our users to
> use only our
> exchange server for their e-mail. Can this be done?
>
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