RE: Install trouble

[Osborn, Joel]

Come now. We don't need sarcasm here. 

Let's just move along. Nothing to see here.

8-{)>

...Joel

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Install trouble


I remember yesterday as well...

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Install trouble


LOL, boy do I remember those days!!

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-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Install trouble


Start here. Call back in a month. http://www.exchange-mail.org/books.html 
http://www.swinc.com/resource/books.asp
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exchange.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
Drive thru Admin, Would you like Fries with that?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dean Clark
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Install trouble


I have just been given the task of setting up the companies exchange server.
(Exchange 2000 on Win 2k server) Having never done it before I thought I'd
give it a crack. Upon entering the setup screen I started going through the
installation options and I got this
error:-
Microsoft Exchange Messaging and collaboration Services depends on Microsoft
Exchange domain preperation, which has an install problem.

Any ideas??
All knowledgebase stuff I can find relates to DNS of Master Domain
controller - which is fine. TIA

Dean Clark
Database Administrator
Calaba Ltd
(+44) 0207 258 8462
07790 853 688
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RE: fix monitor

[Osborn, Joel]

Sorry, but you forgot to add your "Kelly Only" disclaimer, so you can't make
any threats.

If, in the future, you want to send messages for only Kelly to read, you
should add the following:

Warning: This message was intended for Kelly only. Anyone else reading this
message will die.

Of course, you should probably run it by legal and have them punch it up a
bit. But then you wouldn't have to worry about anyone else on the list
reading your messages for Kelly. 8-{)>

...Joel

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: fix monitor


That was for Kelly only...now you must die.

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: fix monitor


Did someone say lightsaber?

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Enterprise Support & Engineering
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-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: fix monitor


The real question is: Are you willing to try it?

That was for the light saber thing. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: fix monitor



Would that taste like chicken too?
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
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Mmm... fried Tener

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Davis
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: fix monitor


I realize I am late to this discussion, as I have read many catapult
references, however I don't think it was addressed. I am relatively new
To the Exchange World, only a year and a half working with it. But I have
Been involved with Networking and Computers in general for the last 12
years. I got my start (as probably did everyone here) working on hardware.

Richard, I can tell you there are most certainly no user serviceable parts
In a monitor. And Opening one up can be Fatal. The Flyback Capacitor Can
hold a charge of several thousand volts for years. There is more than
enough
Voltage there to severely burn you, if not kill you. Like everyone one else
Here has said, it's cheaper to buy a new one, then get an old one
fixed.
Unless.You live near a High School that has a Vocational Education
Program that specializes in Electronics. These kinds of schools Will
usually
Fix the equipment at no charge save for parts.

Just An idea.

Ken

Kenneth Davis
IT Manager
American Wood Moulding, LLC

"For a moment, nothing happened.
Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen."






-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: fix monitor



for all u hardware/monitor geniuses out there do u know a good place on the
web to tell me how to open/fix a monitor?

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RE: dssaf

[Osborn, Joel]

Only if you're in the Inner Circle, which you aren't because there isn't
one.

...Joel

PLEASE NOTE: Some Quantum Physics Theories Suggest That When the Reader Is
Not Directly Observing This Email, It May Cease to Exist or Will Exist Only
in a Vague and Undetermined State.



-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 8:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: dssaf


And this would be the seed for the code of the day?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys!


-Original Message-
From: Keith Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 4:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: dssaf


assafsafsfsadf

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RE: Email Archiving

[Osborn, Joel]

Where does it mention Archiving on that page? It talks about deleting
attachements and reading the Archives, but nothing about archiving products
or procedures.

b.t.w. IMHO, 4.6 should be changed to say that Sybari and Trend are the de
facto standards. Seems like more and more folk around here are using Sybari.

...Joel

"Checking Magic 8-ball: Outlook not good. Oh!" - Nathan Black

-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 2:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Archiving


http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_sec4.htm

Read the whole FAQ while you are there, please!

-Original Message-
From: Ward Sidney - siwa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 9:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Email Archiving


Hello everyone.  Can anyone recommend a product that can monitor and archive
emails coming in and out of the company?  



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RE: Blank emails

[Osborn, Joel]

Or what happens if they try through OWA?

...Joel

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 1:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blank emails


What happens when the user logs on to his mailbox on a different PC?  You
also said that when he forwards the messages you can see the text.  Can he
see the text while forwarding (after he clicks forward and before he clicks
send)?

S.

-Original Message-
From: Farquharson, Andrea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 2:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blank emails


Recreated the profile. Ran Detect & Repair.  No change.
Word is not set as the email editor.

> WTF? How often do you sleep with Drew? ;)
> 
> I'd look at removing Word as the email editor or recreating the profile.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 9:49 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blank emails
> 
> 
> WTF? Drew wake up, your talking in your sleep again.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 9:48 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blank emails
> 
> 
> did he change the resolution on his monitor?
> 
> -- Drew
> 
> Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
> His enemies are not demons, but human beings like himself.  He doesn't
wish
> them
> personal harm.  Nor does he rejoice in victory.  How could he rejoice in
> victory
> and delight in the slaughter of men? (Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Farquharson,
> Andrea
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 9:40 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Blank emails
> 
> 
> I have a user who today started getting email messages with the body
> of the message being blank.  Also, old messages in his archive folder open
> with the body being blank.  He did not have this problem before.  If he
> forwards me the messages, I see text clearly.  I've connected to his PC
> via SMS and looked in his Outlook, opened the messages in question and
> see the problem he is having.
> 
> What should I look for?  How can I resovle this?
> 
> Thanks!!

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RE: Hotmail or Yahoo mail

[Osborn, Joel]

Not if you use your ISPs SMTP server for outbound.

...Joel

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 7:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hotmail or Yahoo mail


I forgot about that.  I should have figured that they'd allow that now that
they garbage up all the mail messages with banner ads.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Osborn, Joel
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 5:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hotmail or Yahoo mail


As a matter of fact, they will.

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/context/context-36.html

Note: the Yahoo account needs to be set up to allow this option. The user
needs to go into "Options", then select "POP Access & Forwarding"

...Joel

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 9:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hotmail or Yahoo mail


You really think Hotmail or Yahoo would let you bypass their web
advertising?

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carine Lim,
Sr.SystEng, SCSM/NSB
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 7:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Hotmail or Yahoo mail


Hi,

How  I configure to download mail from Yahoo server or Hotmail server? At my
outook, the Internet E-mail setting the Incoming mail(POP3) and Outgoing
mail (SMTP) what shall I put???

Thank you

Carine



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RE: Off Topic Kinda

[Osborn, Joel]

Never though of troll from a fisherman's point of view (I'm more of a
shopper, than a fisher). I always thought it meant more like the Billy Goats
Gruff kind of troll:

http://www.sterlingtimes.co.uk/bill_goats_gruff.htm

...Joel

-Original Message-
From: Steve Hanna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 11:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Off Topic Kinda


troll..
http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame29.html
~steve



> 
> Does anyone know a good program or books for making good 
> stationery HTML for
> outlook 2000.  I want to make some fancy email BABY!!
> 
> Rich
> 
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FW: Accessing Exchange from Outlook 2k through firewall

[Osborn, Joel]

Here's a less subtle one:

   P   
V::V   V::VPP  N:::N   N::N
V::V   V::VP::PP:P NN  N::N
V::V   V::VPP:P P:PN:N N::N
 V:V   V:V   PP P:PN::NN::N
  V:V V:VPP P:PN:::N   N::N
   V:V   V:V PPP:P N:::NN  N::N
V:V V:V  P:PP  N::N NN N::N
 V:V   V:V   PPN::N  NN:::N
  V:V V:VPPN::N   N:::N
   V:V:V PPN::NN::N
V:V  PPN::N N:N
 V:::V PP::PP  N::N  NN
  V:V  PP  N::N   N:::N
   V:::V   PP  N::NN::N
VVVPP   NNN

Courtesy of Lonster's Figlet server.
http://www.schnoggo.com/figlet.html

font: doh.flf

...Joel

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 6:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Accessing Exchange from Outlook 2k through firewall


Hey , I like it! 
Kinda like: "What color is an orange?"



-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 11:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Accessing Exchange from Outlook 2k through firewall


V   V  PP   N N
 V V   P P  NNN
  V   VP P  N N   N
   V V PP   N  N  N
V   V  PN   N N
 V V   PNNN
  VPN N

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shawn Connelly
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 11:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Accessing Exchange from Outlook 2k through firewall


(This is my first email to the group so hopefully I'll get this right!)

> I'm trying to access our Exchange Server through a firewall (> utilizing
port forwarding) with Outlook 2000 and Exchange Server support (lan type
connection).  By process of elimination, I have discovered that the
forwarding the following ports works (sort of):

23-31,50,80,110,119,123,143
100-150
4500-5000

Obviously, I'd like to narrow down the 100-150 and 4500-5000.

Though I can finally read and respond to email, I found that my offline
folders have disappeared from my laptop (not sure if this was a coincidence
or not) and attempting to re-instate the offline folders gives me the
following error:

>From tools/Off-line folder settings:
Msg: You must configure an offline folder before you can use this folder
offline. Would you like to configure an offline folder now?
Response: yes
Msg: The attempt to log on to the MS Exchange Server has failed.
Why this happening?  Remember while attempting this operation, I am already
successfully connected to the Exchange server.  My only guess is that I need
to forward more port numbers through the firewall.
I have search through the MS Knowledgebase, my Exchange server manuals,
other on-line support sites, Slapstick, etc.
Your help is greatly appreciated,
Shawn

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RE: Accessing Exchange from Outlook 2k through firewall

[Osborn, Joel]

  o  o   o__ __oo  o
 <|><|> <| v\  <|\<|>
 < >< > / \ <\ / \\o  / \
  \oo/  \o/ o/ \o/ v\ \o/
   v\  /v|__  _<|/  |   <\ |
<\/> | / \\o  / \
  \oo/  \o/\o/ v\ \o/
   v\  /v|  |   <\ |
<\/>/ \/ \< \

Courtesy of Lonster's Figlet server.
http://www.schnoggo.com/figlet.html

...Joel

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 6:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Accessing Exchange from Outlook 2k through firewall


Hey , I like it! 
Kinda like: "What color is an orange?"



-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 11:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Accessing Exchange from Outlook 2k through firewall


V   V  PP   N N
 V V   P P  NNN
  V   VP P  N N   N
   V V PP   N  N  N
V   V  PN   N N
 V V   PNNN
  VPN N

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shawn Connelly
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 11:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Accessing Exchange from Outlook 2k through firewall


(This is my first email to the group so hopefully I'll get this right!)

> I'm trying to access our Exchange Server through a firewall (> utilizing
port forwarding) with Outlook 2000 and Exchange Server support (lan type
connection).  By process of elimination, I have discovered that the
forwarding the following ports works (sort of):

23-31,50,80,110,119,123,143
100-150
4500-5000

Obviously, I'd like to narrow down the 100-150 and 4500-5000.

Though I can finally read and respond to email, I found that my offline
folders have disappeared from my laptop (not sure if this was a coincidence
or not) and attempting to re-instate the offline folders gives me the
following error:

>From tools/Off-line folder settings:
Msg: You must configure an offline folder before you can use this folder
offline. Would you like to configure an offline folder now?
Response: yes
Msg: The attempt to log on to the MS Exchange Server has failed.
Why this happening?  Remember while attempting this operation, I am already
successfully connected to the Exchange server.  My only guess is that I need
to forward more port numbers through the firewall.
I have search through the MS Knowledgebase, my Exchange server manuals,
other on-line support sites, Slapstick, etc.
Your help is greatly appreciated,
Shawn

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RE: Hotmail or Yahoo mail

[Osborn, Joel]

As a matter of fact, they will.

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/context/context-36.html

Note: the Yahoo account needs to be set up to allow this option. The user
needs to go into "Options", then select "POP Access & Forwarding"

...Joel

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 9:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Hotmail or Yahoo mail


You really think Hotmail or Yahoo would let you bypass their web
advertising?

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Carine Lim,
Sr.SystEng, SCSM/NSB
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 7:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Hotmail or Yahoo mail


Hi,

How  I configure to download mail from Yahoo server or Hotmail server? At my
outook, the Internet E-mail setting the Incoming mail(POP3) and Outgoing
mail (SMTP) what shall I put???

Thank you

Carine



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RE: Recall: Secret Cabal mailing list

[Osborn, Joel]

I'm sure he would.[1] 8-{)>

...Joel

[1] Interesting that the secretary designate of the Secret Cabal doesn't
know enough about Exchange that he thought this would work.[2]

[2] Yes, I know he was kidding.[3]

[3] so am I, hence the bearded mustachioed smiley wearing glasses. [4]

[4] 8-{)>

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 11:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Recall: Secret Cabal mailing list


Doug Hampshire would like to recall the message, "Secret Cabal mailing
list".

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RE: Exchange clustering

[Osborn, Joel]

Boy, that would be a short book. More like a greeting card. 8-{)>

...Jole

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 2:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange clustering


I'm planning my first book, "Exchange Clusters:  Why Bother?"

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joe D. Llewelyn
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange clustering


Hi all,

New to the group however I've been watching for some time.

This is in no way a flame posting, however I seek information regarding
the clustering of Exchange 2000 servers.

Could anyone point out any good reference points - be they web or book?
I've searched high and low on various search engines but just get sites
full of mumbo-jumbo that is not relevant.

Regards,

Joe

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RE: Recover a Public Folder

[Osborn, Joel]

Pedro's had a fish chimichanga that was pretty good.

...Joel

"I think that all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired
of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with
being sick and tired. I'm certainly not! But I'm sick and tired of being
told that I am! " -- Monty Python


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 2:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recover a Public Folder


Did someone say fish taco??

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 12:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recover a Public Folder


No, that's taco.  :P

-Original Message-
From: Robert Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 12:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recover a Public Folder


It's not a fish burrito, is it?

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recover a Public Folder


Mmmm...burritos!

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 3:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recover a Public Folder

That's not a wrap, that's a friggin burrito!



-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 3:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recover a Public Folder


a quick search of http://support.microsoft.com with the term
"dumpsteralwayson" (no quotes) resulted in:

http://search.support.microsoft.com/kb/psssearch.asp?SPR=msall&T=B&KT=AL
L&T1
=7d&LQ=dumpsteralwayson&PQ=PastQuery&S=F&A=T&DU=C&FR=0&D=support&LPR=&LN
G=EN
G&VR=http%3A%2F%2Fsupport.microsoft.com%2Fsupport%3Bhttp%3A%2F%2Fsupport
.mic
rosoft.com%2Fservicedesks%2Fwebcasts%3Bhttp%3A%2F%2Fsupport.microsoft.co
m%2F
highlights&CAT=Support&VRL=ENG&SA=GN

Link may wrap.

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
"The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live,
mad to talk, mad to be saved... the ones who never yawn and say a
commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman
candles exploding like spiders across the stars." - Jack Kerouac

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jean-Francois
Bourdeau
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 2:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recover a Public Folder


Thanks to all

MS say that Retension time is not functionnal for Public Folder. I
didn't knew netiher.

What is dumsteralwayson hack?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Drewski
Sent: 24 octobre, 2001 15:30
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recover a Public Folder


Depends.  Was deleted item retention turned on?  How about applying the
dumsteralwayson hack?

-- Drew


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RE: Disclaimer

[Osborn, Joel]

I'm still having trouble seeing a disclaimer as a solution to this. Seems
like you need a popup that will appear BEFORE sending the mail. Not a
paragraph that will be added after the e-mail is composed and sent.

The message needs to get to the sender not the sendee.

Joel K. Osborn
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Wisconsin Department of Transportation
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-Original Message-
From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disclaimer


Careful stepping down off that soapbox, Doug. It seems to be a little higher
than usual! :-) I haven't seen a post like that from you in ages-- no
vendors taking you golfing or to lunch today?

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben & Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disclaimer


Do you remind people each and every day that it is a violation of company
policy to use corporate office supplies for personal use? I serious doubt
that you do. So why would you remind them every stinking time that they send
an eMail of your corporate policy on eMail use? 

Post the policy where you post all your other corporate policies (Web page,
employee handbook, etc) and have them acknowledge that they received a copy.
Just like for every other policy in the company. 

Why is it the senior management across this country (nay, across the world)
feels that they have to remind eMail users on a daily basis about corporate
policy? They don't prefix every telephone call with a recording reminding
them of the appropriate use of the phone? The next time a manager comes to
you [1] asking for internal disclaimers, ask them if they are also
implementing the phone recording message? It might just make them realize
how silly their request is.

[1] "you being the entire Exchange List not just Mr. Edwards [2]
[2] Oh, the technical answer is you have to use third party software.

-Original Message-
From: Dale Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 8:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Disclaimer


Okay.  I have search Microsoft's Knowledge Base.  I have search the FAQ and
read FAQ 4.1.  However, they talks about adding a disclaimer to external
emails.  How would we add a disclaimer to our internal messages being sent
inside the Company?  We basically want to add to every message a statement
saying that email is property of the Company and any violation or misuse of
the Company's email system will result in flogging and being sent to their
room without the use of the facilities for 24 hours!  No, but seriously, can
this be done just with the Exchange program?  Or do we have to use a
third-party software to be able to do this internally.

TIA

Geoff

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RE: Exchange 2K crash after defrag with Eseutil

[Osborn, Joel]

She turned me into a newt!

...Joel

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-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K crash after defrag with Eseutil


Probably a consultant anyway.  But just for running that without thinking
long and hard about what to do when it did crash, I should turn him into a
toad.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange 2K crash after defrag with Eseutil


Hope your resume is current.


- Original Message - 
From: "Antony Pautz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:09 AM
Subject: Exchange 2K crash after defrag with Eseutil


> Help !
> 
> Has anybody managed  to recover an information store after Eseutil has
> crashed.
> 
> I was busy defragging the private information store and the whole process
> went perfectly until the point where it copies the temp files over the
> existing files. It copied priv1.edb over succesfully and then crashed
> leaving me with the undefragmented priv1.stm.
> 
> I tried to copy the temp .stm across manually and then renamed it and
> performed a whole host of checks with eseutil and isinteg but the server
> just doesn't want to know about it.
> 
> And of course, who didn't check to see that they had a full backup before
> starting the defrag ?
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated
> 
> Antony
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RE: Tivoli

[Osborn, Joel]

No fears. Rigorous testing is on the docket.

...Joel

-Original Message-
From: Semiglia, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: FW: Tivoli


Hi,

We use TSM/TDP here and it works pretty good now. The great advantage is
that you have centralized backup. We were however having a problem with an
earlier client. It would restore the database, and it would stay up long
enough to pull off a mailbox or two, then become unresponsive. We had to
update to the new version of TDP for Exchange to get it to work. I was
disappointed with the response we got from Tivoli on the issue. Just make
sure to do some rigorous restore testing prior to implementing in
production.


Michael Semiglia



-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 5:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tivoli


I'm just going off what the TSM engineer and sales person told me.

-Original Message-
From: Ramesh Viswanathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 3:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tivoli


I hope we are taking about Tivoli Storage Manager (TSM) product.  We have
been using TSM's Data Protection for Microsoft Exchange product for backing
up our Exchange Server for quite sometime now.  This is NOT a third party
product and is under active development by Tivoli.

I would recommend that you search the TSM mailing list archives at:
http://www.adsm.org to get a better feedback on this product.

We have not had any problems with it and it integrates well with the rest of
the TSM product. You can also take a look at the documentation at:
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/pubs/pdfs/redbooks/sg246147.pdf

Ramesh

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 4:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Tivoli


I don't have any real good experiences with Tivoli but I went to a detailed
presentation.  It seemed pricey, and they told me that the actual product in
Tivoli that backed up the Exchange stuff was 3rd party software.  That
really bugged me for some reason, why would I buy a backup solution for
Exchange when the Exchange portion wasn't even written by that company.  We
also looked at CommVault and Net Backup, we went with CommVault.

But you never know, it may be a great product.  I don't think they had
message level granulation either, but I could be wrong.

e

-Original Message-
From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Tivoli

Our shop is about to start implementing Tivoli for backing up our file
servers and we (the Exchange group) have been asked if we want to go along,
as well. We are currently on Argserve 6.5 SP2, so it seems like a good plan.

They/we did look at Veritas, but it was too pricey. Tivoli is looking good
from our testing, but we were wondering what experiences other shops have
had (are having) with Tivoli backup.

Thanks.

Joel K. Osborn
Information Systems Technical Specialist
Wisconsin Department of Transportation [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Tivoli

[Osborn, Joel]

Our shop is about to start implementing Tivoli for backing up our file
servers and we (the Exchange group) have been asked if we want to go along,
as well. We are currently on Argserve 6.5 SP2, so it seems like a good plan.

They/we did look at Veritas, but it was too pricey. Tivoli is looking good
from our testing, but we were wondering what experiences other shops have
had (are having) with Tivoli backup.

Thanks.

Joel K. Osborn
Information Systems Technical Specialist
Wisconsin Department of Transportation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Good Exchange sources...

[Osborn, Joel]

and now that I think about it, I beleive you have to purchase the New Orlean
regional add on.

Oh well. I guess we'll just have to settle for the good ol' mid-west (U.S.)
version.

8-{)>

...Joel



-Original Message-
From: Ryan, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Good Exchange sources...


That won't be available until SP2 for MS Mac & Cheese.NET with new
EasyBake(tm) Technology

John Ryan
dhs&associatesinc. 



-Original Message-
From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Good Exchange sources...


He must not be ready to Kick It Up Another Notch!

Kicking It Up would involve swapping some pepperjack cheese for some of
the sharp cheddar, as well as garlic, onions and hot sauce, in addition
to the jalapenos.

...Joel

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-Original Message-
From: Bauer, Mr. Rick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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Ju forgot the jalapenos, man!

Rick Bauer

-Original Message-
From: Ryan, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Good Exchange sources...


Perfect for when you're watching a server restore from an old tape
drive


CROCK POT MACARONI AND CHEESE
Serves 4-6

8 oz. elbow macaroni, cooked and drained
3 cups shredded sharp cheddar cheese 
12 oz. can evaporated milk
1-1/2 cups milk
1 egg
1 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspon black pepper
1 cup shredded sharp cheddar cheese

Place cooked macaroni in a 3-1/2 quart (or larger) crock pot that has
been coated with nonstick spray. Add 3 cups cheese, evaporated milk,
milk, egg, salt and pepper. Mix well. Sprinkle with remaining 1 cup
cheese. Cover and cook on low setting for 5-6 hours until mixture is
firm and golden around the edges. Do not remove cover or stir until
mixture has finished cooking.

John Ryan
dhs&associatesinc. 



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 2:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Good Exchange sources...


Does anyone have any good Cheese recipes they could share?


Andy David 
J Muller International




-Original Message-
From: tech [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 01:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Good Exchange sources...


Dave, actually I'm new to SMS.  Could you send me some resources for
SMS?

Much appreciated and thanks

Nathan

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Cook, David A.
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:46 AM
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Subject: Good Exchange sources...


I posted to this list for the first time today but didn't ask one of the
most important questions a new admin always has. What are the good
sources for Exchange information? I was an SMS administrator and I knew
of so many good resources but now I feel lost. I know Microsoft and
Swynk but point me to some other good resources for information and
troubleshooting. Thanks for the help.

Dave Cook
Desktop Administrator
Kutak Rock, LLP
402-231-8352
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RE: Good Exchange sources...

[Osborn, Joel]

He must not be ready to Kick It Up Another Notch!

Kicking It Up would involve swapping some pepperjack cheese for some of the
sharp cheddar, as well as garlic, onions and hot sauce, in addition to the
jalapenos.

...Joel

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-Original Message-
From: Bauer, Mr. Rick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Good Exchange sources...


Ju forgot the jalapenos, man!

Rick Bauer

-Original Message-
From: Ryan, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Good Exchange sources...


Perfect for when you're watching a server restore from an old tape
drive


CROCK POT MACARONI AND CHEESE
Serves 4-6

8 oz. elbow macaroni, cooked and drained
3 cups shredded sharp cheddar cheese 
12 oz. can evaporated milk
1-1/2 cups milk
1 egg
1 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspon black pepper
1 cup shredded sharp cheddar cheese

Place cooked macaroni in a 3-1/2 quart (or larger) crock pot that has
been coated with nonstick spray. Add 3 cups cheese, evaporated milk,
milk, egg, salt and pepper. Mix well. Sprinkle with remaining 1 cup
cheese. Cover and cook on low setting for 5-6 hours until mixture is
firm and golden around the edges. Do not remove cover or stir until
mixture has finished cooking.

John Ryan
dhs&associatesinc. 



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 2:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Good Exchange sources...


Does anyone have any good Cheese recipes they could share?


Andy David 
J Muller International




-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 01:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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Dave, actually I'm new to SMS.  Could you send me some resources for
SMS?

Much appreciated and thanks

Nathan

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Subject: Good Exchange sources...


I posted to this list for the first time today but didn't ask one of the
most important questions a new admin always has. What are the good
sources for Exchange information? I was an SMS administrator and I knew
of so many good resources but now I feel lost. I know Microsoft and
Swynk but point me to some other good resources for information and
troubleshooting. Thanks for the help.

Dave Cook
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Kutak Rock, LLP
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RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server

[Osborn, Joel]

The receive limit should always be set, high enough to not get in the way of
business function, but low enough to save a server from a crash in case of a
mail loop or malicious attack.

This is advice from Microsoft. And I think it makes a lot of sense. It would
have prevented a hard 3 day outage for one of our sister agencies a couple
of years ago.

Joel K. Osborn
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Wisconsin Department of Transportation
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-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Losing data after moving to Exchange server


Why would you set a receive limit?  Doesn't that impact business?  The
other limits I can understand, but the receive limit seems rater
fzcked...

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Allison
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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:15 AM
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Subject: Re: Losing data after moving to Exchange server


At 200MB, the user gets a warning that they are reaching the limit. At
250MB, the user cannot send any emails. At 300MB, the user cannot
receive any emails.



On Tue, 02 Oct 2001, you wrote:
> Please define "Mailbox size limit".  What are your
> exact settings?
> 
> Ed Crowley
> Compaq Computer
> 
> --- Allison Wittstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ed,
> > 
> > The mailbox size limit on the Server is 300MB.  Her
> > .pst was opened temporarily
> > to retreive her eMails, Calendar appoinments, etc
> > for permanent storage in her
> > Exchange Mailbox.  During the moving of a large
> > folder to the Server, she
> > exceeded the size limit of her new mailbox.
> > From what I heard (I was of course not in the office
> > at the time), she did the
> > equivalent of a "move & paste" and not a "copy &
> > paste". 
> > 
> > Allison Wittstock
> > inubit AG
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 01 Oct 2001, you wrote:
> > > I think you are confused.  The mailbox size limit
> > does
> > > not apply to a PST.  There is a 2GB limit on PSTs, though.  Did 
> > > your user blow up the PST by
> > exceeding
> > > that?
> > > 
> > > Ed Crowley
> > > Compaq Computer
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> > > > 
> > > > One of my users switched from having .pst and Internet-only mode

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> > > > 
> > > > I hope that I used the correct terminology, as I
> > am
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RE: Deleting/Clearing a Large Message from User Mailboxes: Progra mmatic Solutions?

[Osborn, Joel]

Use mailbox manager with a size parameter.

Joel K. Osborn
Information Systems Technical Specialist
Wisconsin Department of Transportation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Bauer, Mr. Rick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 3:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Deleting/Clearing a Large Message from User Mailboxes:
Programmatic Solutions?


Dear Experts:
 
Are there any automated ways to sweep a lot of mailboxes (probably 500)
to remove a large e-mail (embedded graphics, I know, we already shot the
sender) besides "recall message" from the sender side? We have limited
the size of user mailboxes and are now filling many of them.
 
I am wondering if there are any tools in Exchange (Ex2K) that could do
this automatically at the IS level. Sorry if this question is too basic
or infantile; my tentative (non-technical) solution is to send out a
voice mail and tell them to delete this particular message, but I was
wondering if we could do it on our side of the ball.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
 
Rick Bauer
The Hill School
 

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RE: Stopping inbound email from a specific source

[Osborn, Joel]

You need to remove the keycaps first and put them in the silverware tray.

Then when you put it back together, you can go ahead and alphabetize the
keys, so you can find the one you want, instead of this ridiculous QWERTY
arrangement. 8-{)>

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-Original Message-
From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 4:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping inbound email from a specific source


Really for seriously Don?

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 4:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping inbound email from a specific source


Put the KB in the dishwasher and it will be fine..  Trust me...  Works
with laptop KB's too.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 2:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping inbound email from a specific source


Al right...I like you guys. Here it is


I just hit a full Coke on the corner of my desk (on accident). It
punched a hole in it and proceeded to hose down both my monitors, KB,
mouse and my minions laptop. The KB is wrecked. At the same moment our
T1 went down! I would kill a user for this.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Drewski
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 2:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping inbound email from a specific source


oh, right, can't tell anyone.

Soda boy.

Drew

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping inbound email from a specific source


S!!

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Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 1:58 PM
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He's gotta do something after destroying his keyboard.

Drew

If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to
each other. (Mother Theresa)

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and a tomato with white mold growing on it." (From Mort, by Terry
Pratchett)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:54 PM
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We're just a funny guy today aren't we?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 1:48 PM
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Subject: RE: Stopping inbound email from a specific source


Do you wear your leather mask while doing it?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 1:45 PM
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Just enter the domain name..

Flowgo.com and that's it.  Stop/Restart the IMC and all should be well.

D


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Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 1:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Stopping inbound email from a specific source


Thanks, Lori.  As you can tell, I'm relatively new to Exchange and
appreciate all the help I can get.

I did try the *.flowgo and it didn't work.  I get the invalid domain
name message which I thought I would using a wildcard.  But it was worth
a try.

Thanks again.


Bill Lambert, Mcp, Mcse
Endoxy Healthcare
847-465-2351 x2232
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To: Exchange Discussions
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RE: Market Share

[Osborn, Joel]

and 83% of statistic are made up.

...Joel Osborn

The world is made up of three kinds of people. Those who can count and those
who can't.

-Original Message-
From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Market Share


A recent survey indicated that 76% of all surveys are inaccurate.

Aaron

-Original Message-
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http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/compare/Ferris.asp

>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:14 PM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: RE: Market Share
>>>
>>>
>>>What's your logon and PW?
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
>>>William
>>>Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 3:09 PM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: Market Share
>>>
>>>
>>>This looks a little high for Exchange, no?
>>>
>>>MARKET SHARE (Seats Deployed)
>>>
>>>Exchange 58% 
>>>Notes/Domino 27% 
>>>HP OpenMail 5% 
>>>GroupWise 2% 
>>>Other 8%
>>>
>>>Source:
>>>http://www.ferris.com/rep/200103/default.asp
>>>
>>>William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+
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RE: Sircam Virus

[Osborn, Joel]

Actually, we are getting hit with a ton of Magistr

Joel K. Osborn
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Wisconsin Department of Transportation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Subject: RE: Sircam Virus


and the other half are Hybris, right?  *mutter*

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-Original Message-----
From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sircam Virus


Yea. It's still runnign amuck. Almost half of our intercepted viruses are
still SirCam.

Joel K. Osborn
Information Systems Technical Specialist
Wisconsin Department of Transportation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sircam Virus


Hello,

Is everyone still getting many attachments infected by the
W32.Sircam.Worm@mm virus? Any many of you my NAV for Exchange is setup to
delete any attachments that may have this virus in them.  Im getting a ton
of Admin Alerts of attachments infected with this virus being deleted.  Just
want to know if others are getting a lot too.

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RE: Personal Folder

[Osborn, Joel]

OK. Well, you could have him create a folder under his Mailbox and call if
"Personal Folder". Then he would have his personal folder, but his mail
would still be stored on the mail server.

You wouldn't want to call it "Personal Folders" because that would imply
that it contained folders under it, and that is not what he wants.

Or am I typing too early in the morning for this to make any sense? Or is it
the VP that doesn't make any sense?

Joel K. Osborn
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-Original Message-
From: Farquharson, Andrea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 4:48 PM
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Subject: Personal Folder


This is a weird question/request.  The VP of my company wants to create 
personal folders with no subfolders underneath.  By default, a Deleted
Items folder gets created under the personal folder.  He does not
want that folder there.  I explained to him that it is a folder that
cannot
be deleted.  It's part of Microsoft's design for personal folders. He is
not satisfied with that answer.

There is no way to create a personal folder without that Deleted Items
folder, is there??

Thanks!

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RE: MS Easybake Oven

[Osborn, Joel]

And of course, the most coveted of all:

Iron Chef Easybake[1]

...Joel

[1] gotta bring this discussion back on topic, fercryingoutloud.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Iron Chef Microwave

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Iron Chef Meat?
> :-0
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kuminda Chandimith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 2:01 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven
> 
> 
> Thats what I do all the time.. I even managed to spoil a meal 
> of  "Instant
> noodls" few days a go.
> 
> and Its funny that I can cook any type of meat better than most of my
> friends.. 
> 
> 
> Kuminda Chandimith
> Sr. Technical Consultant
> Ducont.com FZ-LLC
> Tel:  + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237
> Fax: +971-4-3913001
> http://www.ducont.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 24 September 2001 18:52
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven
> 
> 
> Kuminda's definition of cooking has three components[1]
> 1. Heating
> 2. Boiling
> 3. Mixing
> 
> [1] If you have to do more than one for the same foodstuff, put the
> stuff back and find a restaurant.  :)
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kuminda Chandimith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Posted At: Monday, September 24, 2001 08:59 AM
> > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> > Conversation: MS Easybake Oven
> > Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven
> > 
> > 
> > hmm thats too much of cookin for me ... My definition of 
> > cooking is much
> > simpler than that.
> > 
> > Kuminda Chandimith
> > Sr. Technical Consultant
> > Ducont.com FZ-LLC
> > Tel:  + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237
> > Fax: +971-4-3913001
> > http://www.ducont.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 24 September 2001 17:21
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven
> > 
> > 
> > You must like soggy crust.
> > 
> > Warm the oven to 350. Take the pizza out of the box and place 
> > on a cookie
> > sheet and warm inside the oven for 10-12 minutes.
> > 
> > A warmed baking stone would be better than a cookie sheet, but more
> > difficult to come by.
> > 
> > ...Joel
> > 
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> > the Reader Is
> > Not Directly Observing This Email, It May Cease to Exist or 
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> > in a Vague and Undetermined State.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kuminda Chandimith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 4:29 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven
> > 
> > 
> > I know how to cook Pizza...
> > You buy a big pizza.. Eat half today. Cook next half in the 
> microwave
> > tomorrow..
> > 
> > 
> > Kuminda Chandimith
> > Sr. Technical Consultant
> > Ducont.com FZ-LLC
> > Tel:  + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237
> > Fax: +971-4-3913001
> > http://www.ducont.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 20 September 2001 23:36
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven
> > 
> > 
> > Ay-men!
> > My brother will never let me forget the time years ago I was 
> > boiling hotdogs
> > on the stove (ew!) and let the water run out (EW!) 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 3:32 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven
> > 
> > 
> > Ah! Just because all the best chefs are men, does not mean 
> > that all men are
> > the best chefs. It's a subset thing. 
> > 
> > ...Joel
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Th

RE: MEC

[Osborn, Joel]

He did refer the question to you. He directed the clarification request to
"fishbreath"

>A tech buddy is not necessarily reciprocal, so the answer is yes.  Right,
>fishbreath?



-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MEC


Doug Hampshire is not certified to administer the Tech Buddy program. Please
refer questions on the program directly to me.

(:=
Great Cthulhu Jones
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MEC


A tech buddy is not necessarily reciprocal, so the answer is yes.  Right,
fishbreath?

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Avi
Smith-Rapaport
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 12:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MEC


Can I also take on a tech buddy even though I am the recipient of a tech
buddy?
Maybe I can become a tech buddy in training?

Avi


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RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate

[Osborn, Joel]

Yes. Change the font to 8 or even 6 point before trying to lift. Also, use a
nice clean san serif font.

And under no condintions should you try to this lift if the font has been
changed ot Gil Sans Ultra Bold.

...Joel

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-Original Message-
From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 9:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate


Guess it depends on how big those ones and zeros are...

-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar
To: Exchange Discussions
Sent: 9/26/01 7:26 AM
Subject: RE: Move Mailbox  Transfer Rate

How much does 40GB weigh anyway Andy?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 26 September 2001 02:30
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate


Lift with your legs, not your back.


Andy David 
J Muller International




-Original Message-
From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 08:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate


Thank you all for your response, I'll try the move mailbox.

Regards

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 26 September 2001 01:53
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate


I agree with missy
- Original Message -
From: "missy koslosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate


> Exmerge will kill his single instance storage, and his 40GB database
> will end up at almost 50GB if he's got only a 1.2:1 ratio.  I'd try 
> moving the mailboxes in chunks of 50-100 at a time, and ensure that 
> it's done from
the
> receiving server's Admin program for efficiency.
>
> I'd guess that this can be done in 2-3 working days, without overtime.
Just
> let the users know that their mailboxes may be "temporarily
> inaccessible" and that their access should be resolved in 20-30 
> minutes (it should take less per mailbox, but you always look good 
> when things take less time than you've said...).
>
> Missy
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Glenn Corbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 6:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate
>
>
> Sander,
>
> Any reason you think that exmerge will bring along corrupted messages
> ? Since Exmerge is essentially copying the message from the mailbox 
> store to the .PST file, a corrupted message will cause Exmerge to 
> hiccup.
>
> We had major store corruption some time ago, approx 600 of the 1600
> mailboxes wouldn't move via the Exchange Administration tool due to 
> corruption. Exmerge allowed those mailboxes to be successfully moved.
Simply
> looking at the exmerge log file, deleting the offending message(s)
> from
the
> mailbox allowed the migration to occur in most cases.
>
> We have also used Exmerge doing only the first phase of the migration
> (extracting to .PST file), in order to determine which mailboxes were 
> corrupt. Have done this a few days ahead of a migration to determine 
> those mailboxes which will have to be manually moved. This allowed us 
> to
expedite
> those mailboxes with no detected corruption, and focus our efforts on
those
> mailboxes that were having problems.
>
> Glenn
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:00 PM
> Subject: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate
>
>
> > Hi All
> >
> > I know one should not generalise and each system is different. I
> > acknowledge these two factors, but does anyone have any stats on the

> > average transfer speed they obtained while doing a move mailbox. The

> > servers in question are not in my site so I cannot quickly run a
> > test.
The
> > servers are on a 100 MB switch.The total mail store is approx 40 GB.

> > I would like to calculate an approx time needed to move mailboxes
> > this
way,
> > exmerge is not an option as the original store has corruptions in
> > it. I need to check after each mailbox if the new store is still 
> > consistent.
> >
> > Any info is appreciated.
> >
> > Regards
> > Sander

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RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os

[Osborn, Joel]

What's interesting is that someone on the list is actually scanning for and
bouncing messages that containe the word arse!

...Joel

"I think that all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired
of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with
being sick and tired. I'm certainly not! But I'm sick and tired of being
told that I am! " -- Monty Python


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 9:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os


I forgot to add the word WIN in there.. : >

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Osborn, Joel
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 12:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os


>Ok good.. Back to getting my Arse kicked at Nintendo by my 5 year old..

>Wish he would let me once and a while..

You want to kick your own Arse???

...Joel Osborn

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-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 12:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os


Ok good.. Back to getting my Arse kicked at Nintendo by my 5 year old..
Wish he would let me once and a while..

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os


He doesn't scan those folders.  Drink another Espresso...  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Miller
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os


You NEVER want to use a file based scanner on the Exchange folders in
the server.. That is a very bad idea. You just don't do that period. If
you want more protection then use extension blocking. File scanner your
exchange server will cause nothing but problems and now help at all..
Why do you think there is a separate product for exchange?  Never mind..
Don will finish this one better then I can.. 

You should have left it you being wrong.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Ko
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os


Don,

Hi!

What I don't want is to make this as argument.  I am just saying that I
would run File Based A/V product to increase the protection of Exchange
server.  You can't really say your server is bullet proof.  Maybe it is
at the time, but what if/when there's a new threat for security holes.
A/V may not be able to protect it, but it certainly may decrease the
chance of getting infected (IMO).  You think that file based A/V
products corrupt Exchange database?  Well, Not if people install it
properly and run it properly.  Exchange Virus product companies support
File Based A/V products.  Microsoft does not say you can not install
File Based A/V products on Exchange server, do they?  If they do, please
let me know.

If you are happy with not running file based A/V products on your
Exchange server, that's okay with me.  I am just happy running file
based A/V product along email virus product on my Exchange server.  And
this is supported by my A/V vendor. 

Brian

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RE: Sircam Virus

[Osborn, Joel]

Yea. It's still runnign amuck. Almost half of our intercepted viruses are
still SirCam.

Joel K. Osborn
Information Systems Technical Specialist
Wisconsin Department of Transportation
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-Original Message-
From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sircam Virus


Hello,

Is everyone still getting many attachments infected by the
W32.Sircam.Worm@mm virus? Any many of you my NAV for Exchange is setup to
delete any attachments that may have this virus in them.  Im getting a ton
of Admin Alerts of attachments infected with this virus being deleted.  Just
want to know if others are getting a lot too.

Thanks,

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RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os

[Osborn, Joel]

>Ok good.. Back to getting my Arse kicked at Nintendo by my 5 year old..
>Wish he would let me once and a while..

You want to kick your own Arse???

...Joel Osborn

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-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 12:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os


Ok good.. Back to getting my Arse kicked at Nintendo by my 5 year old..
Wish he would let me once and a while..

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os


He doesn't scan those folders.  Drink another Espresso...  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Miller
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os


You NEVER want to use a file based scanner on the Exchange folders in
the server.. That is a very bad idea. You just don't do that period. If
you want more protection then use extension blocking. File scanner your
exchange server will cause nothing but problems and now help at all..
Why do you think there is a separate product for exchange?  Never mind..
Don will finish this one better then I can.. 

You should have left it you being wrong.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Ko
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anti-virus protection for Exchange server os


Don,

Hi!

What I don't want is to make this as argument.  I am just saying that I
would run File Based A/V product to increase the protection of Exchange
server.  You can't really say your server is bullet proof.  Maybe it is
at the time, but what if/when there's a new threat for security holes.
A/V may not be able to protect it, but it certainly may decrease the
chance of getting infected (IMO).  You think that file based A/V
products corrupt Exchange database?  Well, Not if people install it
properly and run it properly.  Exchange Virus product companies support
File Based A/V products.  Microsoft does not say you can not install
File Based A/V products on Exchange server, do they?  If they do, please
let me know.

If you are happy with not running file based A/V products on your
Exchange server, that's okay with me.  I am just happy running file
based A/V product along email virus product on my Exchange server.  And
this is supported by my A/V vendor. 

Brian

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RE: moving mailboxes

[Osborn, Joel]

For details, see http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxa.htm

Joel K. Osborn
Information Systems Technical Specialist
Wisconsin Department of Transportation
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-Original Message-
From: Ghaleed Nortje [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 9:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: moving mailboxes


'should be automatically.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 25 September 2001 04:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: moving mailboxes

I´m about to move some mailboxes from one exchangeserver to another in the
same site.. Do I have to specify the new exchange server on every client,
or is it taken care of automatically?

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RE: MS Easybake Oven

[Osborn, Joel]

Hey, we all have our strengths. Many guys are a lot more comfortable cooking
over a fire (gas, charcoal or wood) out of doors. and that cooking is mostly
of the meat variety.

That way you have more time to get the fire out before you risk burning the
whole house down.

...Joel Osborn

-Original Message-
From: Kuminda Chandimith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 1:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Thats what I do all the time.. I even managed to spoil a meal of  "Instant
noodls" few days a go.

and Its funny that I can cook any type of meat better than most of my
friends.. 


Kuminda Chandimith
Sr. Technical Consultant
Ducont.com FZ-LLC
Tel:  + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237
Fax: +971-4-3913001
http://www.ducont.com



-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 September 2001 18:52
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Kuminda's definition of cooking has three components[1]
1. Heating
2. Boiling
3. Mixing

[1] If you have to do more than one for the same foodstuff, put the
stuff back and find a restaurant.  :)

> -Original Message-
> From: Kuminda Chandimith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Monday, September 24, 2001 08:59 AM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: MS Easybake Oven
> Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven
> 
> 
> hmm thats too much of cookin for me ... My definition of 
> cooking is much
> simpler than that.
> 
> Kuminda Chandimith
> Sr. Technical Consultant
> Ducont.com FZ-LLC
> Tel:  + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237
> Fax: +971-4-3913001
> http://www.ducont.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 24 September 2001 17:21
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven
> 
> 
> You must like soggy crust.
> 
> Warm the oven to 350. Take the pizza out of the box and place 
> on a cookie
> sheet and warm inside the oven for 10-12 minutes.
> 
> A warmed baking stone would be better than a cookie sheet, but more
> difficult to come by.
> 
> ...Joel
> 
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> the Reader Is
> Not Directly Observing This Email, It May Cease to Exist or 
> Will Exist Only
> in a Vague and Undetermined State.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kuminda Chandimith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 4:29 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven
> 
> 
> I know how to cook Pizza...
> You buy a big pizza.. Eat half today. Cook next half in the microwave
> tomorrow..
> 
> 
> Kuminda Chandimith
> Sr. Technical Consultant
> Ducont.com FZ-LLC
> Tel:  + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237
> Fax: +971-4-3913001
> http://www.ducont.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 20 September 2001 23:36
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven
> 
> 
> Ay-men!
> My brother will never let me forget the time years ago I was 
> boiling hotdogs
> on the stove (ew!) and let the water run out (EW!) 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 3:32 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven
> 
> 
> Ah! Just because all the best chefs are men, does not mean 
> that all men are
> the best chefs. It's a subset thing. 
> 
> ...Joel
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 2:02 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: MS Easybake Oven
> 
> 
> Would someone please let my husband know this?  He hasn't 
> caught onto the
> idea yet, and I'm sick of coming up with dinner ideas...
> - Original Message -
> From: "Doug Hampshire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:48 AM
> Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven
> 
> 
> Everyone knows all the best chefs are men.
> 
> Doug Hampshire
> Iron Chef Hanji
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 8:46 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven
> 
> 
> Anyone who thinks that thinks cooking is only for girls 
> should watch Emeril
> on FoodTV!
> 
> ...Joel
> 
> --
> Rate this email:
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> 3. Snort cheese bloody moron
> 4. Thanks, now I'm sending you a virus
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>

RE: Rules Wizard

[Osborn, Joel]

Tape them to the back of the stall doors in the bathroom. And over the
urinals in the men's room.

...Joel Osborn

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 6:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard


Every once in a while, buy a bunch of Krispy Kreme donuts and hide a
reference to the fact that the first five people to come ask for them
will get half a dozen.  The first three people to respond to this email
get every Feb 30th off for the rest of the century, paid double salary.
Give 'em a quiz.  Gather them into a room and read it aloud to them.
Print it out and tape it to their monitors.  Make them write "I will
read my daily memos" 100 times on the conference room chalkboard.

I am quite capable of ignoring stuff in my inbox without moving it to
another folder.  I bet your users are, too.  The only way you're going
to make them read it, is to make your managers, well, manage.

-Original Message-
From: Khin Thuzar Nu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Monday, September 24, 2001 6:28 PM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: Rules Wizard
Subject: Rules Wizard



Hi to all,  

Is there a way to stop users from using Rules Wizard to dump company
newsbreaks to their Personal Folders or Inbox folders??

The goal is to have them read the announcements instead of dumping them
somewhere to be deleted.

Any help would be highly appreciated.  

Thanks in advance..

Thuzar 
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RE: MS Easybake Oven

[Osborn, Joel]

Well, if you don't mind soggy crust.

I just followed the instructions off the side of the Pizza Hut take home
box.

...Joel

"I think that all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired
of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with
being sick and tired. I'm certainly not! But I'm sick and tired of being
told that I am! " -- Monty Python


-Original Message-
From: Kuminda Chandimith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


hmm thats too much of cookin for me ... My definition of cooking is much
simpler than that.

Kuminda Chandimith
Sr. Technical Consultant
Ducont.com FZ-LLC
Tel:  + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237
Fax: +971-4-3913001
http://www.ducont.com



-Original Message-
From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 September 2001 17:21
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


You must like soggy crust.

Warm the oven to 350. Take the pizza out of the box and place on a cookie
sheet and warm inside the oven for 10-12 minutes.

A warmed baking stone would be better than a cookie sheet, but more
difficult to come by.

...Joel

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-Original Message-
From: Kuminda Chandimith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 4:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


I know how to cook Pizza...
You buy a big pizza.. Eat half today. Cook next half in the microwave
tomorrow..


Kuminda Chandimith
Sr. Technical Consultant
Ducont.com FZ-LLC
Tel:  + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237
Fax: +971-4-3913001
http://www.ducont.com



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 20 September 2001 23:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Ay-men!
My brother will never let me forget the time years ago I was boiling hotdogs
on the stove (ew!) and let the water run out (EW!) 

-Original Message-
From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 3:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Ah! Just because all the best chefs are men, does not mean that all men are
the best chefs. It's a subset thing. 

...Joel

-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 2:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: MS Easybake Oven


Would someone please let my husband know this?  He hasn't caught onto the
idea yet, and I'm sick of coming up with dinner ideas...
- Original Message -
From: "Doug Hampshire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:48 AM
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Everyone knows all the best chefs are men.

Doug Hampshire
Iron Chef Hanji

-Original Message-
From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 8:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Anyone who thinks that thinks cooking is only for girls should watch Emeril
on FoodTV!

...Joel

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-Original Message-
From: Bauer, Mr. Rick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 10:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Wasn't that line from "Everything is Beautiful" by Ray Stevens?

My dad wouldn't let me play with my sister's easybake oven. 6 years of
therapy and I still can't get in touch with my feminine side.

Rick Bauer
The Hill School

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Has the list made that unmarked left turn into the Twilight Zone?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that
there are none so blind as those who will not see --The Moody Blues
(I know you're out there)


-Original Message-
From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


> "I'm trying to bake a cake and it keeps burning it"
> "Yes, you will need to install MSEO SP1 for that to stop"

my MS Easybake is on SP4. This morning I found that I was unable to make
any bagels with SP4 installed and had to wipe the oven's disk,
re-install the OS and appy SP1 thru SP3 to restore this functionality

RE: test

[Osborn, Joel]

That wouldn't be an AD MANAGEMENT class would it?

...Joel Osborn

How dare you use your constitutional right to question my contitutional
right to criticize your right to do away with my constitutional rights?


-Original Message-
From: Les Bessant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 9:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: test


Sorry, no time for that. I have AD exams to do next

>-Original Message-
>From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:01 PM
>To: Exchange Discussions
>Subject: RE: test
>
>
>Ahh, go take a xx course!
>
>And see if your filter can block this: m4n4g3m3n7
>
>Muhuhahahahaha!
>
>(:=
>Great Cthulhu Jones
>CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
>http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
>http://www.bad-managers.com
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>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Les Bessant
>Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 8:53 AM
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>Subject: RE: test
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>Gasp! I am shocked..
>
>Les Bessant, MOSMWNMT+TCU, MCP
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:49 PM
>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>Subject: RE: test
>>
>>
>>Both of you have xx potential.
>>
>>(:=
>>Great Cthulhu Jones
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>>http://www.zzzptm.com/cthulhu
>>http://www.bad-managers.com
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Les Bessant
>>Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 8:41 AM
>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>Subject: RE: test
>>
>>
>>Quite right.
>>
>>I apologise for any offence caused by mentioning the word.
>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:36 PM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: RE: test
>>>
>>>
>>>Our system replaces the word "xx" with a series of x 
>>>characters.
>>>We refuse to have the word xx in any emails!
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Les Bessant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>>>Posted At: 21 September 2001 14:33
>>>Posted To: Exchange Mailing List
>>>Conversation: test
>>>Subject: RE: test
>>>
>>>
>>>Now *that* is one of the rudest things I've ever heard!
>>>
>>>xx?!?!? Surely that must have set off somebody's 
>>>filthy language
>>>filters!
>>>
>>>Les Bessant mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: test


Most people only sit and wonder why they're not yet receiving
mail. You,
you're a man of action. You take the bull by the horns and 
lunge into the
problem, cutting away at it with determination and resolve 
>>to succeed.

You have xx potential.

(:=
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CEO, R'lyeh Consulting
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http://www.bad-managers.com

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RE: MS Easybake Oven

[Osborn, Joel]

You must like soggy crust.

Warm the oven to 350. Take the pizza out of the box and place on a cookie
sheet and warm inside the oven for 10-12 minutes.

A warmed baking stone would be better than a cookie sheet, but more
difficult to come by.

...Joel

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-Original Message-
From: Kuminda Chandimith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 4:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


I know how to cook Pizza...
You buy a big pizza.. Eat half today. Cook next half in the microwave
tomorrow..


Kuminda Chandimith
Sr. Technical Consultant
Ducont.com FZ-LLC
Tel:  + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237
Fax: +971-4-3913001
http://www.ducont.com



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 20 September 2001 23:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Ay-men!
My brother will never let me forget the time years ago I was boiling hotdogs
on the stove (ew!) and let the water run out (EW!) 

-Original Message-
From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 3:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Ah! Just because all the best chefs are men, does not mean that all men are
the best chefs. It's a subset thing. 

...Joel

-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 2:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: MS Easybake Oven


Would someone please let my husband know this?  He hasn't caught onto the
idea yet, and I'm sick of coming up with dinner ideas...
- Original Message -
From: "Doug Hampshire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:48 AM
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Everyone knows all the best chefs are men.

Doug Hampshire
Iron Chef Hanji

-Original Message-
From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 8:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Anyone who thinks that thinks cooking is only for girls should watch Emeril
on FoodTV!

...Joel

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-Original Message-
From: Bauer, Mr. Rick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 10:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Wasn't that line from "Everything is Beautiful" by Ray Stevens?

My dad wouldn't let me play with my sister's easybake oven. 6 years of
therapy and I still can't get in touch with my feminine side.

Rick Bauer
The Hill School

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Has the list made that unmarked left turn into the Twilight Zone?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that
there are none so blind as those who will not see --The Moody Blues
(I know you're out there)


-Original Message-
From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


> "I'm trying to bake a cake and it keeps burning it"
> "Yes, you will need to install MSEO SP1 for that to stop"

my MS Easybake is on SP4. This morning I found that I was unable to make
any bagels with SP4 installed and had to wipe the oven's disk,
re-install the OS and appy SP1 thru SP3 to restore this functionality.
As we all know, SP3 is missing the latest security patches, and someone
was able to telnet in through the fridge and insert raisins into my
bagels.

give me strength...

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RE: MS Easybake Oven

[Osborn, Joel]

Ah! Just because all the best chefs are men, does not mean that all men are
the best chefs. It's a subset thing. 

...Joel

-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 2:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: MS Easybake Oven


Would someone please let my husband know this?  He hasn't caught onto the
idea yet, and I'm sick of coming up with dinner ideas...
- Original Message -
From: "Doug Hampshire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:48 AM
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Everyone knows all the best chefs are men.

Doug Hampshire
Iron Chef Hanji

-Original Message-
From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 8:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Anyone who thinks that thinks cooking is only for girls should watch Emeril
on FoodTV!

...Joel

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-Original Message-
From: Bauer, Mr. Rick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 10:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Wasn't that line from "Everything is Beautiful" by Ray Stevens?

My dad wouldn't let me play with my sister's easybake oven. 6 years of
therapy and I still can't get in touch with my feminine side.

Rick Bauer
The Hill School

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Has the list made that unmarked left turn into the Twilight Zone?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that
there are none so blind as those who will not see --The Moody Blues
(I know you're out there)


-Original Message-
From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


> "I'm trying to bake a cake and it keeps burning it"
> "Yes, you will need to install MSEO SP1 for that to stop"

my MS Easybake is on SP4. This morning I found that I was unable to make
any bagels with SP4 installed and had to wipe the oven's disk,
re-install the OS and appy SP1 thru SP3 to restore this functionality.
As we all know, SP3 is missing the latest security patches, and someone
was able to telnet in through the fridge and insert raisins into my
bagels.

give me strength...

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RE: MS Easybake Oven

[Osborn, Joel]

Anyone who thinks that thinks cooking is only for girls should watch Emeril
on FoodTV!

...Joel

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-Original Message-
From: Bauer, Mr. Rick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 10:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Wasn't that line from "Everything is Beautiful" by Ray Stevens?

My dad wouldn't let me play with my sister's easybake oven. 6 years of
therapy and I still can't get in touch with my feminine side.

Rick Bauer
The Hill School

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


Has the list made that unmarked left turn into the Twilight Zone?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that
there are none so blind as those who will not see --The Moody Blues
(I know you're out there)


-Original Message-
From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MS Easybake Oven


> "I'm trying to bake a cake and it keeps burning it"
> "Yes, you will need to install MSEO SP1 for that to stop"

my MS Easybake is on SP4. This morning I found that I was unable to make
any bagels with SP4 installed and had to wipe the oven's disk,
re-install the OS and appy SP1 thru SP3 to restore this functionality.
As we all know, SP3 is missing the latest security patches, and someone
was able to telnet in through the fridge and insert raisins into my
bagels.

give me strength...

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RE: New Virus / Worm ??

[Osborn, Joel]

You're special enough to know that you can't do it with just Exchange out of
the box. 
8-{)>

Joel K. Osborn
Information Systems Technical Specialist
Wisconsin Department of Transportation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 7:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New Virus / Worm ??


Really??  We're blocking .exe's just fine using Scanmail (scratching head).
Does that mean we are "special"?

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

 -Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, September 20, 2001 5:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: New Virus / Worm ??

You can't. You need a product like TrendMicro's eManager. There are some 
others too.

At 04:11 PM 9/20/01 +0800, you wrote:

> where to configure at the Exchange servers??? I could not find any
>options to block it... huh!!! ;-(
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RE: Email disclaimer and content filter

[Osborn, Joel]

Microsoft Unix. Now with GREP Explorer and Visual Vi![1]

Joel K. Osborn
Information Systems Technical Specialist
Wisconsin Department of Transportation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[1]For those of you sarcastically impared, this is not an actual press
release. AFAIK Microsoft has no plans for either of these utilities on the
Unix platform.
-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 6:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email disclaimer and content filter


No worries.  I was wondering where the coffee table copy of 'Unix GUI'
magazine went.

W

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 4:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email disclaimer and content filter


Thanks, William.  I was on the can.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lefkovics,
William
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 3:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email disclaimer and content filter


My turn!

FAQ 4.1:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_sec4.htm

William Lefkovics
All your Aqaeda are belong to US.


-Original Message-
From: Van Huissteden, Adriaan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 3:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Email disclaimer and content filter


Hi all,

Microsoft Exchange 5.5. from what I see, does not have any place to
set mail filters (word and content filters) or a place to add a company
email disclaimer on to all email sent out?

Am I right?

What is good software to achieve this!

Thanks All!

Adriaan Van Huissteden

Network Administrator
Connect Credit Union
Phone: (03) 6233 0660


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RE: Urgent , space is full very fast

[Osborn, Joel]

You also need to restrict receive at nn+xx megabytes if you want the
mailboxes to quit growing.

Joel K. Osborn
Information Systems Technical Specialist
Wisconsin Department of Transportation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 6:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Urgent , space is full very fast


Sounds like a mail loop.  Put limits on your mailboxes.  Restrict send
at nn megabytes.  That will stop it for the moment, if that's what it
is, and buy you some time to react.   Now go get a good online backup of
your server to get rid of all the 5mb log files.  (You have a whole
bunch of them, right?  I'm just taking a guess here).   Go find out who
has a rule that forwards mail to an off-site destination.  It will be
the person who's complaining that they can't send mail.   Or the person
with the 12gb mailbox.   Let us know more details if this doesn't help.

-Original Message-
From: Adil Azad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 6:22 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: Urgent , space is full very fast
Subject: Urgent , space is full very fast


Hello!
I am running WinNT4 SP4and Exchange server 5.5 with
SP4 . 25 Clients are using mail boxes. Before two days
my exchange server are very slow and mails are not
forward perfectly when i am check the services i see
that most exchange server services are stoped
automatically. When i check the c drive free space it
is less than 10MB  but in few minutes this free space
is full and my exchange server is stop.I am uninstall
some applications to this drive and use ESEUTIL and
the defragmentation is completed successfully. Now i
am installing my applications in other drive but again
today my c drive space is decreasing very fast .
Can anyone help me , i am very worry about this
situation.

regards
Adil azad

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RE: Gas Prices [was God Bless America (way OT)]

[Osborn, Joel]

Oh the flip side of this, we (my wife and I) got a letter from Kwik Trip
saying that they had raised thier prices at 8 p.m. on Tuesday in
anticipation of higher inventory replacement costs. When the higher prices
didn't materialize, they lowered thier prices at noon on Wednesday. Anyone
who bought gas with thier KT card between 8 p.m. on Tuesday and noon on
Wednesday will have the difference credited to them.

They can't really do anything about the cash customers and I'm not sure if
they can do anything about folks using cards other than KT. I was contacted
as KT card holder, so that's the letter I got.

Joel K. Osborn
Happy Kwik Trip customer

-Original Message-
From: John Allhiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


A couple of counties in metro Kansas City investigated and prosecuted those
offending gas stations within a day.
If gas stations make marginal profits, there are other businesses to own.

news article:
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Business/ap20010912_314.html
  
(The QuikTrip company was not involved BTW, I use it as a colloquialism like
kleenex and coke)

John Allhiser MCSE CCNA
Network Engineer
Business Men's Assurance
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


The Mayor of Cleveland announced that any gas station engaged in "price
gouging" would be shut down.

I think the Cuyahoga County Commissioners agreed to do the same in the rest
of the County.

Sorry for your uncle, but "price gouging" is what it looks like to the
average citizen

-Michèle  (also in Cleveland, OH)
Immigration site:  
Our new 2001 Miata:  
Tiggercam:  
-
"Your (sic) a crackhead" - Richard Seigel to Ed Crowley, April 2001 
-


-Original Message-
From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America (way OT)


Here in Cleveland, OH gas went from about $1.699 to $1.799 overnight...  One
local business owner made the point (on a radio program this morning) that
if the prices the gas station owners pay for gas do go up, they've got to
replace the stock in the ground now with higher priced gas...  They need to
be able to cover that added cost...  Having a relative who owns a gas
station, I know that they operate on a shoestring budget, sometimes selling
the cheapest gas for exactly what they pay for it and making no profit from
the economy grade.  Of course two callers later said that if wholesale
gas prices don't jump, then the gas owners need to lower their prices $.10
below what they're paying now to make it up to the customers...  Damn good
idea, but I don't think it'll happen!  :)

JoeP   

-Original Message-
From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America


In my small town in western Michigan, the gas was $1.649 in the morning.  In
the evening, it had shot to $2.00.  It's now down around $1.90.

-Original Message-
From: Matt Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America


Same here, except for a few stations trying to gouge the public.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America


Not here - $1.89 just like yesterday and the day before that.

-Ben-

> -Original Message-
> From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: God Bless America
> 
> 
> I heard it gas up to $5/gallon in some places.
> 
> One would think we're in Eurpoe.
> 
> BTW, AFAIK we're still at normal gas prices here in Maryland 
> (DC/Baltimore suburbs).  And the grocery stores were, if anything, 
> less crowded than normal.
> 
> M
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Allhiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:24 AM
> Subject: RE: God Bless America
> 
> 
> I agree, although Thomas Paine didn't have to spend $126 to fill his 
> Tahoe up at the QuikTrip. The gouging started Tuesday night in the 
> Heartland.
> 
> John Allhiser
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:05 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: God Bless America
> 
> 
> http://www.fathermag.com/US_Constitution/

RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent

[Osborn, Joel]

Of course, after Ed's heart attack this will all be a mute point[1] and we'd
all be chomping at the bit[2] to find a replacement. Except, of course, for
those that could care less.[3]

8-{)>

...Joel

For those of you who don't get it:
[1]should be moot point
[2]should be champing at the bit (as any horse person)
[3]should be couldn't care less. If you COULD care less, then you must care.
If you couldn't care less, then you don't care at all.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent


Augh!

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lynne July
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent


What about loose and lose?  Another favorite  :-)

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent


Also mix up there, they're and their.  Throw in a few misplaced apostrophes
and I'll have a stroke!

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Osborn, Joel
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent


Yeah. To get Ed's attention, use all caps.

In the subject and in the message text.

Unless. of course, you want a useful reply. In that case, DON'T SHOUT.[1]

...Joel

[1]Actually, we haven't see all caps shouting on this list for some time.
It's been quite nice.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent


You're welcome, but I'm still not springing into action because of an
"urgent" request.  And don't try that exclamation point button, either.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nathan Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent


Ed, I have only recently built our Exchange 2000 server and appreciate any
help I can get while I learn.

I do know a fair bit about others systems and having answered forum
questions for many people in lists before I stick to these rules;  If
people are polite, I know the answer and have the time I will help.

In terms of forum eticate I read books and postings before I submit a
question.  If a system is down I will call Microsoft and spend the $245.

Thanks for the lesson.

Nathan

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RE: OT -- Nostradamus' prediction on WW3:

[Osborn, Joel]

Ok . Where do you want the shrubbery? I'll have you know, I'm only bringing
the one, no matter what you change your name to.

...Joel

"I think that all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired
of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with
being sick and tired. I'm certainly not! But I'm sick and tired of being
told that I am! " -- Monty Python


-Original Message-
From: Choi Rex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT -- Nostradamus' prediction on WW3:


Ni!

Rex Choi
Siemens Building Technologies


-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT -- Nostradamus' prediction on WW3:


On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Doug Hampshire wrote:
> ... you use CA products.

  Hey, now!  No personal attacks.  Insinuating that someone uses CA products
is simply uncalled for.  Really.  What times are these?  Next, people will
be saying "Ni!" at will to old ladies.

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RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent

[Osborn, Joel]

Yeah. To get Ed's attention, use all caps.

In the subject and in the message text.

Unless. of course, you want a useful reply. In that case, DON'T SHOUT.[1]

...Joel

[1]Actually, we haven't see all caps shouting on this list for some time.
It's been quite nice.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent


You're welcome, but I'm still not springing into action because of an
"urgent" request.  And don't try that exclamation point button, either.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nathan Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Staff Mail Lists Urgent


Ed, I have only recently built our Exchange 2000 server and appreciate any
help I can get while I learn.

I do know a fair bit about others systems and having answered forum
questions for many people in lists before I stick to these rules;  If
people are polite, I know the answer and have the time I will help.

In terms of forum eticate I read books and postings before I submit a
question.  If a system is down I will call Microsoft and spend the $245.

Thanks for the lesson.

Nathan

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RE: God Bless America

[Osborn, Joel]

No, but we do have the right to arm bears[1]

[1]or was that the other way around?!?

...Joel

How dare you use your constitutional right to question my contitutional
right to criticize your right to do away with my constitutional rights?


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America


Can we have a right to bear Kimmies?

(awaiting the obvious pun)

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America


The Constitution prohibits the U.S. Government from limiting with your right
of free speech, but it doesn't say anything about Kimmie.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Great Cthulhu
Jones
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America


Ooooh... I wouldn't go there... Kimmie's not someone you want to dig at.
Technically, all this is off-topic and the list owners have every right to
rip us all a new gill slit for this stuff.

Given who's in Kimmie's circle of friends, I don't think it's a good idea to
zing her. She'll fight her own battles, but you really don't want guys like
me in the audience throwing popcorn at you.

Don't worry, I think you're the bee's knees. The cat's pajamas. You're all
over that constitution like a donkey on a waffle.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: God Bless America


http://www.fathermag.com/US_Constitution/01st_amendment.shtml

as long as the Exchange list owners allow it, you are s.o.l


On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Kim Cameron wrote:

> i appreciate that Thomas Paine has subbed to the list and is dispensing
> wisdom, but can we cut the monotheistic references, referrals, and
> submissions?  i find it unintellectual to invoke the names of deities to
> avert the calamities of man.  perhaps there is a monotheist discussion
list
> somewhere, where they might ponder and relish the unbelievable fact that
it
> took 226 years for this email to post to the list.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Guy Stewart
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: God Bless America
>
>
> THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the
> sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their
> country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man
> and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this
> consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the
> triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness
> only that gives every thing its value.
>
>
>
> Thomas Paine
>
> 1776




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RE: OT -- Nostradamus' prediction on WW3:

[Osborn, Joel]

And Lincoln has 2 l's that, if you put side by side, almost looks like...

...11 

...Joel

--
Rate this email:
1. It was useful
2. Not necessary but informative
3. Snort cheese bloody moron
4. Thanks, now I'm sending you a virus
5. All your base AAAH



-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OT -- Nostradamus' prediction on WW3:


And Kennedy and Lincoln both have seven letters.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
All your base are belong to us.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Hankins
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT -- Nostradamus' prediction on WW3:


I'm sure many of you have seen this already, but I thought it was a
little interesting.

Nostradamus' prediction on WW3:

"In the year of the new century and nine months,
 From the sky will come a great King of Terror...
 The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.
 Fire approaches the great new city..."
"In the city of York there will be a great collapse,
 2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos 
 while the fortress falls the great leader will succumb
 third big war will begin when the big city is burning"
  
 - NOSTRADAMUS

He said this will be bigger than the previous two.
2001 is the first year of the new century and this is the 9th
month.

New York is located at the 41st degree Latitude.


Bill Hankins
Senior Network Engineer
iCorps Technologies

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RE: DISCLAIMER

[Osborn, Joel]

Come on folks, a little respect. This is, after all the "Brain Behind the
Intelligent Enterprise" (from http://www.indbrain.com/)


...Joel

-Original Message-
From: .DL Helpdesk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: DISCLAIMER


Demand back your subscription fee.

JJ

 -Original Message-
From:   kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:Re: DISCLAIMER

 I only see useful info in mail not junk

- Original Message -
From: ".DL Helpdesk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:42 PM
Subject: RE: DISCLAIMER


> Ummm,
>
> Did you read Kumindas comments or are you just a bit cold?
>
> JJ
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:14 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: DISCLAIMER
>
> Disclaimer should add automatically  for all the users in my exchange
> server, when ever they send a mail.
>  - Original Message -
> From: "Kuminda Chandimith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:21 PM
> Subject: RE: DISCLAIMER
>
>
> >
> > Before everyone come and flame you..
> > Take my advise...go to
> >   http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
> >
> > Other wise your (apparently) first day in the list will not be a
pleasant
> > encounter at all..
> >
> > good luck
> >
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> > Kuminda Chandimith
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RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...

[Osborn, Joel]

Perhaps you could set each student up with an account on your mail server
and then document for them how to pop it off into Hotmail.

They'd still have to remember to click the "Check other mail" button (or
however hotmail does that), but they wouldn't have to sign on to a seperate
system.

Joel K. Osborn
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-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Send to no more than 25 at a time...


>From my perspective, you're making this real hard.

Inform the students that they can use any mailbox they want, but as far as
the university is concerned official communications from staff and faculty
are delivered to their Exchange mailbox. It is the student's responsibility
to keep up with this information. Problem solved. If they complain let them
know that this is how the real world works. Adjust.

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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 2:41 PM
Subject: Send to no more than 25 at a time...


Exchange 2000 SP1, Windows 2000 SP2, GFI Mail Essentials 2000 (latest
build), Dell PowerEdge 2550, dual P-III 733, 2GB RAM.

Dear Exchange Guru's and Goddesses:

Q:  Is there a way to get Exchange to limit the number of recipients per
message for a specific remote domain?  More specifically, break a message
with more than x number of recipients into multiple messages.  If so, how?

Explanation:  This year, I allowed students to choose whether to use their
own email address (mail enabled account) or an account on our system
(mailbox enabled account).   All students, regardless of their choice of
accounts, are added to the "All Students" group, allowing the staff to send
announcements as necessary.  This works great except for one thing:
messages sent to "All Students" always get an NDR with every Hotmail user
listed.

So, I ask Hotmail support why that might be happening and this is their
reply:  "I understand how inconvenient it is on your part but I would like
to inform you that we have only a limit of 25 recipients per messages."

Great.  If you try to include more than 25 Hotmail recipients in a single
message, Hotmail will reject the entire message.  So, I need a way to have
Exchange break up the message into multiple messages with only 25 recipients
per each when addressed to a Hotmail address.  Any ideas?  Other solutions?

My only idea at this time is to create several "Hotmail Users #x" type
groups, and then assign up to 25 Hotmail users per group to each of these
groups, and add these groups to the All Students group.  This is way more
hands-on than I want to get on this; the rest of the process is completely
automated.

If I am to be FAQ'ed here, please point to a specific page.  I have searched
the FAQ, Slipstick, groups.google.com, northernlight.com, etc. and have
found nothing that relates to this problem.

Thank you,
Greg

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RE: OT - great fish tacos

[Osborn, Joel]

I thought this WAS normal! 

...Joel (inventor of the PB&J taco and the tortilla pizza roll-up)

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-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: OT - great fish tacos


Okay.  I love you all dearly.  But please, let's cut this for a while and
get back to some sense of normalcy.  Please.

Missy
- Original Message -
From: "Byron Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:51 PM
Subject: OT - great fish tacos


I just thought I'd let some of you folks know that it's another beautiful
sunny California day here in Sausalito and i just had some great Thai-style
Ahi fish tacos w/ lemongrass, shredded almonds and carrots, cilantro,
lettuce and tomato .mu.  Just needed the cervesa bohemia to make
it complete!

later.byron

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RE: Mailbox move rates

[Osborn, Joel]

In a migration situation, my Mailbox move rate is 1 margarita for every 100
mailboxes I move. This is in addition to my hourly rate. My boss usually
pays off at the end of the migration.

...Joel

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Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 5:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mailbox move rates


Assuming relatively contemporary target system hardware and relatively aged
source system hardware, and a 100MB LAN in between, what average data rates
are y'all seeing in terms of megabytes per hour when moving mailboxes from
an Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2000?

Thanks,

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RE: Everyone group

[Osborn, Joel]

The everyone group is also quite popular with the "Reply All" crowd. Another
VERY good reason to lock it down.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 11:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Everyone group


Not only can you, but, you should. An all users DL is a virus' best friend
:)

Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
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-Original Message-
From: Carine Lim, SystEng, SCSM/NSB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 12:45 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: Everyone group


Hi Everyone...

Can I block the use of #EVERYONE group and limit the use to managers only?
The reason is that I do not want the staff here to simply send mail to
everyone. Are there any other limitations?

Thank you

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RE: A good space for the Exchange server 5.5 configuration.

[Osborn, Joel]

You would put the logs on an unmirrored drive? 

Data (that has been backed up) can be recovered. Unbacked up logs (created
since the last back up) cannot.

I'm not sure what the answer would be, given the drive constraints, but I
would press for some more drive. I would not trust the logs to a
non-redundant spindle. But I also understand the need to keep the logs and
data on seperate spindles.

Joel K. Osborn
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Wisconsin Department of Transportation
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-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: A good space for the Exchange server 5.5 configuration.


Yes.  In fact, you could have just a C drive.

Now, if you want to have SOME chance of recovery if the server crashes, I
would do the following:

1) Format the hard drives
2) Break the RAID 5
3) Take one disk and format it as C:
4) Take the other two disks, and mirror them to create D:
5) Install the OS and Exchange on C:
6) Tell performance optimiser to put the Logs on C: and the Information
Store on D:.

Then, ghod forbid you lose a spindle, you can still recover.

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Hi, Drewski
I am going to use this server for 10 month only, then I would upgrade the
server to Exchange 2000 server.
If I am running RAID 5 on all my three drives, are you saying I could just
have C and D drive instead of having C, D, E, and F drives? It won't matter
at all.

Thanks
John Shi





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Subject: RE: A good space for the Exchange server 5.5 configuration.


With the set up you have, it really doesn't matter, because your partitions
are either sharing physical drives, or spanning physical drives -- so if a
drive fails, you'll lose everything anyway.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Shi
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: A good space for the Exchange server 5.5 configuration.


Hi, Everyone

I have a server that has 3*18.2 GB. I have 4 GB on the C drive.

I have installed a Windows 2000 server and SP2 on the C drive. I need to
install Exchange server 5.5 on that.

I would like to find out what is the best space usage for private
Information store, Public Information store, Information Store Logs,
Directory Service, Directory Service logs, and MTA.

Should I just have C and D drive or I should have C, D, E, F drive? How do
I allocate these spaces?

The following is what I see from the MS book..

Private Information store C:\Exchsrvr\MDBDATA
Public Information Store C:\Exchsrvr\MDBDATA
Inforamtion Store Logs D:\Exchsrvr\MDBDATA
Directory Service F:\exchsrvr\DSADATA
Message Transfer Agent E:\exchsrvr\mtadata


I do not know how to allocate the disk space on each drive.

Thanks
John Shi


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RE: User Friendly Exchange List

[Osborn, Joel]

You have to use a .PST do do that. Preferably on a shared network drive. 

8-{J>

...Joel

How dare you use your constitutional right to question my contitutional
right to criticize your right to do away with my constitutional rights?


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Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List




How do I add a disclaimer to my brick level backups? I'm using 
Arcserve.

Thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


Not without you there

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Don Ely
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


LOL, I don't imagine I'll find myself spending any time there either.
Doesn't sound like it will be any fun.  ;o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of missy koslosky
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: User Friendly Exchange List


Gee, Larry, I can't find any posts by a Larry Duncan (or a "Duncan,
Larry" or a "Duncan, Lawrence" or a "Lawrence Duncan") in the archives
that I currently have available.  But they only go back to February
2000, so I guess you've been lurking for a couple years.

Your answers below remind me of a certain smarmy congressman who was on
TV a week or so ago.  What's the whole answer here?  I don't believe
we're getting it.

You're free to start your own list.  I do hope it's a success.  I don't
think I'll be playing though.  If I tire of this list, I can go visit
the E2K one that Martin hosts, or the Sunbelt Software list, or the
newsgroups, all of which offer additional Exchange information.

Missy

- Original Message -
From: "Larry A. Duncan MCP, MCT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: User Friendly Exchange List


See inline comments.
Besides, Larry;  Aren't you an SMS guru? Thanks for the compliment. Yes,
SMS is my core competency. But any mail list is more than one person.
>
> 
> Have you even posted to this list?
Yes, in the past I have. However, I'm on of the many that is turned off
by the tone of the group. As such, I've changed my settings to webbased
only and I now only refer to it on an as-needed basis.

You're not trying to steal subscribers to a competing service, are you?
Steal? Steal? Are these users owned by you? The
Internet offers a vast number of resource for people to use. I'm now
providing a more user friendly environment for passing information
regarding Exchange. If the users come, that that's their choice and
perhaps a signal to this group that you can be excellent without
attitude.


> 
>
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RE: Plain Text Only

[Osborn, Joel]

Would the latest "Watch Your Back" with the HTML stripper help?
http://www.grinningshark.com/WatchYourBack.htm

...Joel

-Original Message-
From: Scharff, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Plain Text Only


I'm sorry, I haven't been paying attention again.[1] Is it only HTML mail
which is an issue (e.g. Does RTF work?). If so, use the zaphtml script from
slipstick.com.

[1][ And desire not to grep through 100 posts to see if someone else
suggested the obvious.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Ewart, Vicki L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Plain Text Only
> 
> 
> I have a user who can't read HTML due to a hardware problem that is
> unresolved. Is there a way to set up a user so that they receive mail
> only in plain text?  
> 
> V. Ewart

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RE: Plain Text Only

[Osborn, Joel]

Have you tried using Outlook Express with and IMAP4 connection to your
Exchange server. (Or any IMAP4/HTML compliant mail client)? I'm not sure
what that would prove, but more data is usually a good thing.

It is puzzling that IE can display HTML pages just fine, but Outlook can't.
I thought Outlook used IE to display HTML.

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told that I am! " -- Monty Python


-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 1:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Plain Text Only






>>If you can't change the resolution settings, than the drivers MUST be
wrong -- or the wrong MONITOR is selected.

If you can change the resolution settings, find out if the user is using
Word as his/her email editor.<<

None of the above.

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You missed something along the way.  This machine is not running W2K.
It's on W98SE.

ve

-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Ewart, Vicki L.
Subject: RE: Plain Text Only


You have a motherboard that is not W2K-compatible, because that's all
that
is left.  The good news is that a replacement will only cost about 5% of
amount paid to you (and list members) during this troubleshooting
exercise.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 2:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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We'll just to give you some ideas to look at.

Things I'd check.  Not in any order.
1. Plug the video card that doesn't seem to work into another system and
see
if the card works. It might be a dead card.
Did that.  Works fine in other machines.

2. Check Ati and make sure you have the correct drivers.
(http://support.ati.com/products/pc/rageltpro/rageltpro_drivers.html)
Plug
and Play will not always install the correct driver.
Did that. Everything is as it should be.

3. I'd also check to make sure that the bios is the latest version.
Find
the Make/Model of the motherboard and head over to their site.  Look for
any
bios updates for that motherboard.  If there is something messed with
bios
this will set everything back to the defaults.
Not looking forward to taking that machine apart AGAIN!

4. Make sure you're not booting into safe mode. :)
Don't be silly.

5. Look for bent pins on the monitor cable.
Monitor works fine on other machines.  Not a cable problem.

6. Take a vacation and let somebody else worry about it (SEP). ;)
I wish.

ve





> -Original Message-
> From: Ewart, Vicki L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: August 28, 2001 2:05 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Plain Text Only
>
>
> What OS is the on (Win9x, WinNT, Win2k)?\
> Win98SE
>
> What are the model number for the video cards?
> ATI XPERT98
>
> Do you know what the Motherboard make and model is?
> Sorry, without throwing the user off the unit, I couldn't
> tell you right
> now.
>
> Or do you guys/gals have a technician onsite that can look at this.
> That's me.  I'm it.  Told you -- we are on a shoestring these
> days.  We
> spent all our money on upgrading to W2K server, ISA Server and E2K and
> buying 3 new servers for that deployment.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeremy Newell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:45 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Plain Text Only
>
>
> Just a few questions for ya.  I might be able to help narrow down the
> video
> problem.
>
> What OS is the on (Win9x, WinNT, Win2k)?
> What are the model number for the video cards?
> Do you know what the Motherboard make and model is?
>
> Or do you guys/gals have a technician onsite that can look at this.
>
> Jeremy Newell
> Systems Technician
>
> INSCRIBER TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION
> 26 Peppler Street
> Waterloo, Ontario
> Canada, N2J 3C4
> T.519.570.9111
> F.519.570.9140
> www.inscriber.com
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ewart, Vicki L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: August 28, 2001 1:42 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> 

RE: Attaching Files as Shortcuts

[Osborn, Joel]

> *NOTE* We only ever restricted sending ability, Prohibiting receive
> seems a bit silly to me...

We set a high prohibit receive to cut mail loops off at the pass, before our
log and/or datastore drives fill up.

Doesn't seem a bit silly to me

Joel K. Osborn
Information Systems Technical Specialist
Wisconsin Department of Transportation
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-Original Message-
From: Mark Peoples [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 5:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Attaching Files as Shortcuts


I had this problem where I used to work...

The users were about as dumb as a post when it came to outlook and used it
store anything they could in their mailbox. If there were 10 of them in a
group all with access to the same file server - they would still manage to
e-mail the document to each other etc. It was a major behavioural problem. 

Besides some training that was compulsory and backed by management, The only
way we could force people to use shortcuts for internal doucments was to
restrict their mailbox size to say 20 megs. Even still we had 1 Exec send
out a 20 meg attachment to the other execs... boy did that exec look the
fool! *NOTE* We only ever restricted sending ability, Prohibiting receive
seems a bit silly to me...

Single instance works great in this scenario ... but one attachment
registers once for size in the information store, but also registers in each
persons mailbox, so they all needed to learn to manage their inbox and sent
items... esp what they were attaching and sending to other staff:

"What takes less space in your mailbox? A 1K shortcut or a 1 meg document?"

In the end, it forced people who received documents to store them on the
file servers... so they (and their team) could work on them. 

HTH
MP
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2001 1:32 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Attaching Files as Shortcuts
> 
> 
> Some files are being modified and some are not being modified. I am
> concerned about the whole issue, having multiple copies 
> wasting disk space
> as well as confusing people as to which document is which.  
> Right now we
> have some users who do attach files as shortchuts already. I 
> simply wanted
> to force the rest of the users to do the same by changing the 
> default. 
> Just out of curiosity, what would be a "better" purpose for the use of
> this functionality? In my opinion this is exactly the 
> solution for what I
> am dealing with here. And yes I know that training the users 
> is the way to
> go, however I know from experience here that it would open a 
> whole new can
> of worms. And I agree with your troubles of people using 
> their mailbox to
> store files. This would help with that greatly by letting them store
> shortcuts rather than actual files.
> 
> 
> > ...and keep in mind that the "multiple copies" issue may not be as
> > severe as it seems, at first blush.  You do have SIS, after 
> all, so as
> > long as they're not changing it and sticking it back in the 
> store, it's
> > somewhat mitigated.
> > 
> > Having said that, one of the banes of my existence is 
> people who think
> > their mailbox is a file repository.  Now, where did I leave 
> that copy of
> > Elf Bowling from Christmas 1999...?
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Posted At: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:32 AM
> > Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> > Conversation: Attaching Files as Shortcuts
> > Subject: RE: Attaching Files as Shortcuts
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Byron,=20
> > 
> > Thank you for your reply. I appreciate the help.
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > > Hey Mike,
> > >  =20
> > > I actually think you pose a very valid question and think this
> > functionality
> > > would be useful for users (and is not a behavioral issue - though
> > there are
> > > many out there :)). However, Exchange/Outlook doesn't offer this
> > > out_of_the_box so like someone mentioned earlier you 
> should check into
> > > writing or hiring someone to write some code for you or look into
> > > third-party tools.  Fundamentally, you're wanting a 
> automated tool for
> > the
> > > File: command. I'm sure there are resources on the 
> slipstick site or
> > in
> > > Exchange/Outlook mag archives that may help you out.  Also check
> > > www.cdolive.com  I looked at this years back and got sick 
> of fooling
> > with
> > > the forms in Outlook. It's just not that interesting to me. I also
> > looked at
> > > a product called keyflow at one time.
> > >=20
> > > Really what you're looking for is single storage for your data and
> > that
> > > makes sense.  You may find that merging all the data into 
> a workflow
> > or
> > > document/knowledge management system provides you other interface
> > benefi

RE: Backup Policy

[Osborn, Joel]

I've never understood keeping monthlies or yearlies around. You aren't
keeping all the mail. Just the mail that happens to be in the store at the
end of the month. 

I guess if you have a 30 day dumpster, it makes some sense (except for 31
day months). However, you still have the possibility of someone deleting an
item out of the dumpster.

But to keep a tape around forever, just because it happens to have what was
in the mail store that one day (out of 365 or 366 that year) doesn't make a
lot of sense.

So you don't have all the mail for that month or year. Just what happened to
be in the store the day of the backup.

Just my $.02US

Joel K. Osborn
Information Systems Technical Specialist
Wisconsin Department of Transportation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 3:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Policy


This seems like something you guys should have thought up ahead of time,
then when you bring customers on, tell them what you have to offer. Oh
well, spilt milk.

Anyhow, now that you are at the mercy of the customer, you may want to
weigh their thoughts, then come up with a policy. Obviously you will not
be able to make everyone happy, but you may be able to come to some sort
of decision.

If I was going to do it, I would probably keep a month of dailies, a
year of monthlies, and yearly forever.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Phil Isika
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 12:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup Policy


I am implementing Exchange 2000 for an ASP and we have run into an issue
with differing backup/retention policies for hosted customers. We have a
law firm that says 2 weeks for retention then a corporate customer that
wants 30 days. Thank the Lord for multiple storage groups. 

For those of you that have consulted with your legal departments, what
is your current retention policy?

Thanks,
Phil Isika

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