Abuse@[x.x.x.x] - Blacklisted

2003-08-14 Thread Scoles, Damian
We are having problems removing a client from a black list and need a
little help.  This particular blacklister wants us to have an email
address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] where x.x.x.x refers to the IP of our
Exchange server. RFC 1123 talks about this in some detail.  My only
problem is that I can't get it to work.  We tried adding an SMTP address
for a users account (the user who will be responsible for these emails.
This failed.  I then added the SMTP address to the server under
Directory Services.  This failed.  I then added it to our IMC as it is
set to only route mail for our domain (to prevent the server from being
used as a relay point).  This also fails.  All we get is that the server
prohibits relaying.  Also, raw mode (recommended by Microsoft) shows the
address to be correct.  What am I missing?  Here is our setup:

Exchange 5.5 SP4
Windows NT SP6a


Thanks for any help you can provide.

Damian Scoles
Senior Technical Analyst
MCSE+I, CCNP

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RE: Abuse@[x.x.x.x] - Blacklisted

2003-08-14 Thread Roger Seielstad
When you say the IMS is set to only route mail for your domain, does that
mean its set to relay and the domain is listed, or is it set to not relay at
all?

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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Blacklisted
> 
> 
> We are having problems removing a client from a black list and need a
> little help.  This particular blacklister wants us to have an email
> address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] where x.x.x.x refers to the IP of our
> Exchange server. RFC 1123 talks about this in some detail.  My only
> problem is that I can't get it to work.  We tried adding an 
> SMTP address
> for a users account (the user who will be responsible for 
> these emails.
> This failed.  I then added the SMTP address to the server under
> Directory Services.  This failed.  I then added it to our IMC as it is
> set to only route mail for our domain (to prevent the server 
> from being
> used as a relay point).  This also fails.  All we get is that 
> the server
> prohibits relaying.  Also, raw mode (recommended by 
> Microsoft) shows the
> address to be correct.  What am I missing?  Here is our setup:
> 
> Exchange 5.5 SP4
> Windows NT SP6a
> 
> 
> Thanks for any help you can provide.
> 
> Damian Scoles
> Senior Technical Analyst
> MCSE+I, CCNP
> 
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RE: Abuse@[x.x.x.x] - Blacklisted

2003-08-14 Thread Ken Cornetet
Unless something has changed in SP4 (we never made it all the way to
SP4), Exchange 5.5 does not allow email in the form [EMAIL PROTECTED] I
have in the past argued this to be non RFC compliant behavior, but some
very sharp people on this list, who's opinions I respect very much, have
argued otherwise. I will admit the RFC is not unambiguous this point due
to poor wording.

-Original Message-
From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 3:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Blacklisted


We are having problems removing a client from a black list and need a
little help.  This particular blacklister wants us to have an email
address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] where x.x.x.x refers to the IP of our
Exchange server. RFC 1123 talks about this in some detail.  My only
problem is that I can't get it to work.  We tried adding an SMTP address
for a users account (the user who will be responsible for these emails.
This failed.  I then added the SMTP address to the server under
Directory Services.  This failed.  I then added it to our IMC as it is
set to only route mail for our domain (to prevent the server from being
used as a relay point).  This also fails.  All we get is that the server
prohibits relaying.  Also, raw mode (recommended by Microsoft) shows the
address to be correct.  What am I missing?  Here is our setup:

Exchange 5.5 SP4
Windows NT SP6a


Thanks for any help you can provide.

Damian Scoles
Senior Technical Analyst
MCSE+I, CCNP

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RE: Abuse@[x.x.x.x] - Blacklisted

2003-08-14 Thread Scoles, Damian
The IMC is set to route traffic only for the internal domain and only if
the traffic is inbound.  [Routing Tab - Reroute incoming SMTP mail
(required for PP3/IMAP4 support) is checked. Below this is a box that
contains 'inbound'.  Hope that clears things up.

Damian Scoles
Senior Technical Analyst
MCSE+I, CCNP


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 3:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Blacklisted


When you say the IMS is set to only route mail for your domain, does
that mean its set to relay and the domain is listed, or is it set to not
relay at all?

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Blacklisted
> 
> 
> We are having problems removing a client from a black list and need a 
> little help.  This particular blacklister wants us to have an email 
> address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] where x.x.x.x refers to the IP of our 
> Exchange server. RFC 1123 talks about this in some detail.  My only 
> problem is that I can't get it to work.  We tried adding an SMTP 
> address for a users account (the user who will be responsible for
> these emails.
> This failed.  I then added the SMTP address to the server under
> Directory Services.  This failed.  I then added it to our IMC as it is
> set to only route mail for our domain (to prevent the server 
> from being
> used as a relay point).  This also fails.  All we get is that 
> the server
> prohibits relaying.  Also, raw mode (recommended by 
> Microsoft) shows the
> address to be correct.  What am I missing?  Here is our setup:
> 
> Exchange 5.5 SP4
> Windows NT SP6a
> 
> 
> Thanks for any help you can provide.
> 
> Damian Scoles
> Senior Technical Analyst
> MCSE+I, CCNP
> 
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RE: Abuse@[x.x.x.x] - Blacklisted

2003-08-15 Thread Scoles, Damian
We did add this to our reroute box, hit apply and OK, then restarted the
IMC service.  It still doesn't work.  However, I am wondering if I need
to go into raw mode to adjust the routing tab address? I will try this
later today.  Thanks for the help.

Damian Scoles
Senior Technical Analyst
MCSE+I, CCNP


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Blacklisted


Ahh - that's part of your problem then.

The reroute option means you're going to have to add [x.x.x.x] as a
valid inbound address, in the same place as the domain name is now.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:57 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Blacklisted
> 
> 
> The IMC is set to route traffic only for the internal domain
> and only if
> the traffic is inbound.  [Routing Tab - Reroute incoming SMTP mail
> (required for PP3/IMAP4 support) is checked. Below this is a box that
> contains 'inbound'.  Hope that clears 
> things up.
> 
> Damian Scoles
> Senior Technical Analyst
> MCSE+I, CCNP
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 3:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Blacklisted
> 
> 
> When you say the IMS is set to only route mail for your domain, does 
> that mean its set to relay and the domain is listed, or is it set to 
> not relay at all?
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:34 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Blacklisted
> > 
> > 
> > We are having problems removing a client from a black list
> and need a
> > little help.  This particular blacklister wants us to have an email
> > address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] where x.x.x.x refers to the IP of our 
> > Exchange server. RFC 1123 talks about this in some detail.  My only 
> > problem is that I can't get it to work.  We tried adding an SMTP 
> > address for a users account (the user who will be responsible for
> > these emails.
> > This failed.  I then added the SMTP address to the server under
> > Directory Services.  This failed.  I then added it to our 
> IMC as it is
> > set to only route mail for our domain (to prevent the server
> > from being
> > used as a relay point).  This also fails.  All we get is that 
> > the server
> > prohibits relaying.  Also, raw mode (recommended by 
> > Microsoft) shows the
> > address to be correct.  What am I missing?  Here is our setup:
> > 
> > Exchange 5.5 SP4
> > Windows NT SP6a
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for any help you can provide.
> > 
> > Damian Scoles
> > Senior Technical Analyst
> > MCSE+I, CCNP
> > 
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RE: Abuse@[x.x.x.x] - Blacklisted

2003-08-15 Thread Ken Cornetet
Hmmm,
I spent a fair amount of time trying to make this work in MSX 5.5, and
could never make it work. I was told by various members of this list
that it just was not supported.

I'll admit that I've never seen Q194742, though.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Blacklisted


Exchange 5.5 has always accepted @IP addresses - Q194742:

SUMMARY
In Exchange Server versions 4.0 and 5.0, it is not possible to send
messages to a user by using the following format: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Address] 

However, in accordance with for Request for Comments (RFC) 821 and
821bis, this is a valid addressing format. 

Microsoft recognizes the need for compliance to this RFC specification.
Microsoft Exchange Server version 5.5 allows for this addressing method
and therefore allows messages to be sent by using this format. The
feature involves a modification to the Exchange Server Internet Mail
Service to understand IPv4 literals. The Internet Mail Service is now
capable of accepting mail inbound, delivering outbound, and rerouting
mail addressed in the format "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Address]," also known as IPv4
literal. 

NOTE: The admin does not allow you to create a proxy of the form
'[EMAIL PROTECTED] Address]' (it strips the brackets). 

For additional information, click the article number below to view the
article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 
193316 XFOR: How to create addresses of form '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Address] 


--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:56 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Blacklisted
> 
> 
> Unless something has changed in SP4 (we never made it all the way to 
> SP4), Exchange 5.5 does not allow email in the form [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> I have in the past argued this to be non RFC compliant
> behavior, but some
> very sharp people on this list, who's opinions I respect very 
> much, have
> argued otherwise. I will admit the RFC is not unambiguous 
> this point due
> to poor wording.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 3:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Blacklisted
> 
> 
> We are having problems removing a client from a black list and need a 
> little help.  This particular blacklister wants us to have an email 
> address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] where x.x.x.x refers to the IP of our 
> Exchange server. RFC 1123 talks about this in some detail.  My only 
> problem is that I can't get it to work.  We tried adding an SMTP 
> address for a users account (the user who will be responsible for
> these emails.
> This failed.  I then added the SMTP address to the server under
> Directory Services.  This failed.  I then added it to our IMC as it is
> set to only route mail for our domain (to prevent the server 
> from being
> used as a relay point).  This also fails.  All we get is that 
> the server
> prohibits relaying.  Also, raw mode (recommended by 
> Microsoft) shows the
> address to be correct.  What am I missing?  Here is our setup:
> 
> Exchange 5.5 SP4
> Windows NT SP6a
> 
> 
> Thanks for any help you can provide.
> 
> Damian Scoles
> Senior Technical Analyst
> MCSE+I, CCNP
> 
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RE: Abuse@[x.x.x.x] - Blacklisted

2003-08-15 Thread Roger Seielstad
Ahh - that's part of your problem then.

The reroute option means you're going to have to add [x.x.x.x] as a valid
inbound address, in the same place as the domain name is now.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:57 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Blacklisted
> 
> 
> The IMC is set to route traffic only for the internal domain 
> and only if
> the traffic is inbound.  [Routing Tab - Reroute incoming SMTP mail
> (required for PP3/IMAP4 support) is checked. Below this is a box that
> contains 'inbound'.  Hope that clears 
> things up.
> 
> Damian Scoles
> Senior Technical Analyst
> MCSE+I, CCNP
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 3:37 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Blacklisted
> 
> 
> When you say the IMS is set to only route mail for your domain, does
> that mean its set to relay and the domain is listed, or is it 
> set to not
> relay at all?
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:34 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Blacklisted
> > 
> > 
> > We are having problems removing a client from a black list 
> and need a 
> > little help.  This particular blacklister wants us to have an email 
> > address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] where x.x.x.x refers to the IP of our 
> > Exchange server. RFC 1123 talks about this in some detail.  My only 
> > problem is that I can't get it to work.  We tried adding an SMTP 
> > address for a users account (the user who will be responsible for
> > these emails.
> > This failed.  I then added the SMTP address to the server under
> > Directory Services.  This failed.  I then added it to our 
> IMC as it is
> > set to only route mail for our domain (to prevent the server 
> > from being
> > used as a relay point).  This also fails.  All we get is that 
> > the server
> > prohibits relaying.  Also, raw mode (recommended by 
> > Microsoft) shows the
> > address to be correct.  What am I missing?  Here is our setup:
> > 
> > Exchange 5.5 SP4
> > Windows NT SP6a
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for any help you can provide.
> > 
> > Damian Scoles
> > Senior Technical Analyst
> > MCSE+I, CCNP
> > 
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RE: Abuse@[x.x.x.x] - Blacklisted

2003-08-15 Thread Scoles, Damian
We added the [x.x.x.x] to the IMC and it worked fine. Apparently there
was some miscommunication about what to put in the box and x.x.x.x was
entered the first time.  Now the client is off the blacklist.  FYI, even
though the MS article says the Exchange admin program strips off the [],
it did not for this client.  He entered another SMTP address for his
mail account with the [x.x.x.x] format and verified it was correct via
the raw mode of the admin program [admin /r]. Thanks again for all your
help.


Damian Scoles
Senior Technical Analyst
MCSE+I, CCNP


-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 9:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Blacklisted


Hmmm,
I spent a fair amount of time trying to make this work in MSX 5.5, and
could never make it work. I was told by various members of this list
that it just was not supported.

I'll admit that I've never seen Q194742, though.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Blacklisted


Exchange 5.5 has always accepted @IP addresses - Q194742:

SUMMARY
In Exchange Server versions 4.0 and 5.0, it is not possible to send
messages to a user by using the following format: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Address] 

However, in accordance with for Request for Comments (RFC) 821 and
821bis, this is a valid addressing format. 

Microsoft recognizes the need for compliance to this RFC specification.
Microsoft Exchange Server version 5.5 allows for this addressing method
and therefore allows messages to be sent by using this format. The
feature involves a modification to the Exchange Server Internet Mail
Service to understand IPv4 literals. The Internet Mail Service is now
capable of accepting mail inbound, delivering outbound, and rerouting
mail addressed in the format "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Address]," also known as IPv4
literal. 

NOTE: The admin does not allow you to create a proxy of the form
'[EMAIL PROTECTED] Address]' (it strips the brackets). 

For additional information, click the article number below to view the
article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 
193316 XFOR: How to create addresses of form '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Address] 


--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:56 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Blacklisted
> 
> 
> Unless something has changed in SP4 (we never made it all the way to
> SP4), Exchange 5.5 does not allow email in the form [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> I have in the past argued this to be non RFC compliant
> behavior, but some
> very sharp people on this list, who's opinions I respect very 
> much, have
> argued otherwise. I will admit the RFC is not unambiguous 
> this point due
> to poor wording.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 3:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Blacklisted
> 
> 
> We are having problems removing a client from a black list and need a
> little help.  This particular blacklister wants us to have an email 
> address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] where x.x.x.x refers to the IP of our 
> Exchange server. RFC 1123 talks about this in some detail.  My only 
> problem is that I can't get it to work.  We tried adding an SMTP 
> address for a users account (the user who will be responsible for
> these emails.
> This failed.  I then added the SMTP address to the server under
> Directory Services.  This failed.  I then added it to our IMC as it is
> set to only route mail for our domain (to prevent the server 
> from being
> used as a relay point).  This also fails.  All we get is that 
> the server
> prohibits relaying.  Also, raw mode (recommended by 
> Microsoft) shows the
> address to be correct.  What am I missing?  Here is our setup:
> 
> Exchange 5.5 SP4
> Windows NT SP6a
> 
> 
> Thanks for any help you can provide.
> 
> Damian Scoles
> Senior Technical Analyst
> MCSE+I, CCNP
> 
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