Email Retention Policies

2003-09-02 Thread Morgan, Joshua (Greenville)
I have been asked to help with the new Email Retention Policy 
It looks as if Management does not want any items in the mailboxes older
than 60 days
Does anyone know of any good programs to help enforce this as well as
possibly help manage the archiving of important emails (possibly to Public
Folders Uggghh)

Environment:

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TIA,
Joshua




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RE: Email Retention Policies

2003-09-02 Thread Martin Blackstone
I never quite get this. The company sets a retention period of 60 days, then
wants to know how to archive important mails. Well, every email every user
gets is important to them. So the retention policy is really no policy at
all.

Anyhow, check out mailbox manager from the Exchange SP4 service pack. It
will do the job of dumping all that old mail. 

-Original Message-
From: Morgan, Joshua (Greenville) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Email Retention Policies

I have been asked to help with the new Email Retention Policy 
It looks as if Management does not want any items in the mailboxes older
than 60 days
Does anyone know of any good programs to help enforce this as well as
possibly help manage the archiving of important emails (possibly to Public
Folders Uggghh)

Environment:

5 Sites 
All Servers Exchange 5.5 Sp4 All Post SP4 Hotfixes
15 Servers running either Windows 2000 SP3 or SP4 or NT 4.0 with SP6a


TIA,
Joshua




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RE: Email Retention Policies

2003-09-02 Thread Morgan, Joshua (Greenville)
Yeah I do not get it either but I think this is what happens when you get
lawyers involved with IT stuff

Seems like the email version of document shredding to me.

Thanks for your reply,

J






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-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 12:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Retention Policies


I never quite get this. The company sets a retention period of 60 days, then
wants to know how to archive important mails. Well, every email every user
gets is important to them. So the retention policy is really no policy at
all.

Anyhow, check out mailbox manager from the Exchange SP4 service pack. It
will do the job of dumping all that old mail. 

-Original Message-
From: Morgan, Joshua (Greenville) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Email Retention Policies

I have been asked to help with the new Email Retention Policy 
It looks as if Management does not want any items in the mailboxes older
than 60 days Does anyone know of any good programs to help enforce this as
well as possibly help manage the archiving of important emails (possibly to
Public Folders Uggghh)

Environment:

5 Sites 
All Servers Exchange 5.5 Sp4 All Post SP4 Hotfixes
15 Servers running either Windows 2000 SP3 or SP4 or NT 4.0 with SP6a


TIA,
Joshua




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RE: Email Retention Policies

2003-09-02 Thread Ed Crowley
Ask the lawyers where they will get the supporting e-mail based information
to defend a lawsuit.

I strongly believe that companies that act ethically want to retain all
evidence because it will ultimately support them. 

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Morgan, Joshua
(Greenville)
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Retention Policies

Yeah I do not get it either but I think this is what happens when you get
lawyers involved with IT stuff

Seems like the email version of document shredding to me.

Thanks for your reply,

J






Joshua Morgan
AIMCO
W. 864 239-1015


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 12:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Retention Policies


I never quite get this. The company sets a retention period of 60 days, then
wants to know how to archive important mails. Well, every email every user
gets is important to them. So the retention policy is really no policy at
all.

Anyhow, check out mailbox manager from the Exchange SP4 service pack. It
will do the job of dumping all that old mail. 

-Original Message-
From: Morgan, Joshua (Greenville) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Email Retention Policies

I have been asked to help with the new Email Retention Policy 
It looks as if Management does not want any items in the mailboxes older
than 60 days Does anyone know of any good programs to help enforce this as
well as possibly help manage the archiving of important emails (possibly to
Public Folders Uggghh)

Environment:

5 Sites 
All Servers Exchange 5.5 Sp4 All Post SP4 Hotfixes
15 Servers running either Windows 2000 SP3 or SP4 or NT 4.0 with SP6a


TIA,
Joshua




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RE: Email Retention Policies

2003-09-02 Thread Ed Crowley
Let me add one more point and expand a bit.

There is no perfect way to enforce what the lawyers want.  Users can go so
far as to copy messages to floppy disks if they want.  The problem is that
malcontents tend to keep evidence in their favor.  If companies and their
policy-conforming employees dutifully destroy all evidence in the company's
favor, any idiotic lawsuit will be awfully one-sided.

For example, a malcontent keeps (on a floppy disk, say) an e-mail that looks
to be sexually harassing.  The company, in its misguided attempt to reduce
the effects of discovery, issues an edict that all messages are to be
destroyed.  Unfortunately, the company's employees have destroyed all the
other correspondence showing that the entire e-mail thread surrounding the
apparently harassing message was a great big joke, and the malcontent was a
willing participant, and the company loses the lawsuit because it can't
defend the behavior.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Morgan, Joshua
(Greenville)
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Retention Policies

Yeah I do not get it either but I think this is what happens when you get
lawyers involved with IT stuff

Seems like the email version of document shredding to me.

Thanks for your reply,

J






Joshua Morgan
AIMCO
W. 864 239-1015


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 12:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Retention Policies


I never quite get this. The company sets a retention period of 60 days, then
wants to know how to archive important mails. Well, every email every user
gets is important to them. So the retention policy is really no policy at
all.

Anyhow, check out mailbox manager from the Exchange SP4 service pack. It
will do the job of dumping all that old mail. 

-Original Message-
From: Morgan, Joshua (Greenville) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Email Retention Policies

I have been asked to help with the new Email Retention Policy 
It looks as if Management does not want any items in the mailboxes older
than 60 days Does anyone know of any good programs to help enforce this as
well as possibly help manage the archiving of important emails (possibly to
Public Folders Uggghh)

Environment:

5 Sites 
All Servers Exchange 5.5 Sp4 All Post SP4 Hotfixes
15 Servers running either Windows 2000 SP3 or SP4 or NT 4.0 with SP6a


TIA,
Joshua




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RE: Email Retention Policies

2003-09-02 Thread Chris Scharff
The mailbox management feature in 5.5 will allow you to set retention
policies, archiving of important e-mails is a quandary that may require
3rd party software. 

-Original Message-
From: Morgan, Joshua (Greenville) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:12 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Email Retention Policies
Subject: Email Retention Policies

I have been asked to help with the new Email Retention Policy 
It looks as if Management does not want any items in the mailboxes older
than 60 days
Does anyone know of any good programs to help enforce this as well as
possibly help manage the archiving of important emails (possibly to
Public
Folders Uggghh)

Environment:

5 Sites 
All Servers Exchange 5.5 Sp4 All Post SP4 Hotfixes
15 Servers running either Windows 2000 SP3 or SP4 or NT 4.0 with SP6a


TIA,
Joshua




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RE: Email Retention Policies

2003-09-02 Thread Martin Blackstone
You talk funny 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 10:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Retention Policies

The mailbox management feature in 5.5 will allow you to set retention
policies, archiving of important e-mails is a quandary that may require
3rd party software. 

-Original Message-
From: Morgan, Joshua (Greenville) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:12 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Email Retention Policies
Subject: Email Retention Policies

I have been asked to help with the new Email Retention Policy 
It looks as if Management does not want any items in the mailboxes older
than 60 days
Does anyone know of any good programs to help enforce this as well as
possibly help manage the archiving of important emails (possibly to
Public
Folders Uggghh)

Environment:

5 Sites 
All Servers Exchange 5.5 Sp4 All Post SP4 Hotfixes
15 Servers running either Windows 2000 SP3 or SP4 or NT 4.0 with SP6a


TIA,
Joshua




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RE: Email Retention Policies

2003-09-02 Thread John Matteson
Define important.

Flash report to CincSubLant of USS Simon Bolivar SSBN 641 striking a
freighter off the port of Charleston, S.C.

BabyGram, to ET1(SS) Lawrence Karpata, telling him of his new born
daughter 8 pounds 12 ounces.

Both are e-mails (data traffic messages) that were received or sent from
onboard. Both still reside in the National Archives. Which one do you
delete?

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.



-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 1:59 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Email Retention Policies
Subject: RE: Email Retention Policies


The mailbox management feature in 5.5 will allow you to set retention
policies, archiving of important e-mails is a quandary that may require
3rd party software. 

-Original Message-
From: Morgan, Joshua (Greenville) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:12 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Email Retention Policies
Subject: Email Retention Policies

I have been asked to help with the new Email Retention Policy 
It looks as if Management does not want any items in the mailboxes older
than 60 days Does anyone know of any good programs to help enforce this
as well as possibly help manage the archiving of important emails
(possibly to Public Folders Uggghh)

Environment:

5 Sites 
All Servers Exchange 5.5 Sp4 All Post SP4 Hotfixes
15 Servers running either Windows 2000 SP3 or SP4 or NT 4.0 with SP6a


TIA,
Joshua




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RE: Email Retention Policies

2003-09-02 Thread Morgan, Joshua (Greenville)
Well that's my stance...  It would be impossible from a system standpoint to
determine what is important and what is not. All the emails I get are
important at least to me






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-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 2:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Email Retention Policies


Define important.

Flash report to CincSubLant of USS Simon Bolivar SSBN 641 striking a
freighter off the port of Charleston, S.C.

BabyGram, to ET1(SS) Lawrence Karpata, telling him of his new born daughter
8 pounds 12 ounces.

Both are e-mails (data traffic messages) that were received or sent from
onboard. Both still reside in the National Archives. Which one do you
delete?

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.



-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 1:59 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Email Retention Policies
Subject: RE: Email Retention Policies


The mailbox management feature in 5.5 will allow you to set retention
policies, archiving of important e-mails is a quandary that may require 3rd
party software. 

-Original Message-
From: Morgan, Joshua (Greenville) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:12 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Email Retention Policies
Subject: Email Retention Policies

I have been asked to help with the new Email Retention Policy 
It looks as if Management does not want any items in the mailboxes older
than 60 days Does anyone know of any good programs to help enforce this as
well as possibly help manage the archiving of important emails (possibly to
Public Folders Uggghh)

Environment:

5 Sites 
All Servers Exchange 5.5 Sp4 All Post SP4 Hotfixes
15 Servers running either Windows 2000 SP3 or SP4 or NT 4.0 with SP6a


TIA,
Joshua




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