RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
I just wanted everyone to know that we have solved our issue. Thank-you everyone for all of your suggestions. We now have a very finely tuned exchange server because of this. The solution was related to redundant nics in our Compaq 1850R. The primary nic was plugged into a Linkbuilder Switch that was also connected to 2 other floors. This created bandwidth contention for the exchange server with about 100 other workstations. Our secondary Nic was plugged into a brand new 3com 3300XL (100mps switch - which I thought was active), however it was not active. I pulled the primary cable out from the linkbuilder - the nics failed over to the secondary and the speed issue was fixed. There server is now 10X faster, no word of a lie. I have since connect both primary and secondary to fast 100mbps ports. Thank-you all again. Let this be a lesson - especially for me! HA Regards, Shawn -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 4:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown How long did/have you been AV-disabled ? -Original Message- From: Stephen J. Norton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 18:54 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown What OS are the clients running? -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 4:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown I have disable my Nav for Exchange and still made no difference. Good thought. Cheers Shawn -Original Message- From: Terry Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 1:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Are you running any type of Virus Checking Groupware? -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 12:11 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same issues as we are having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Our current setup is; - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 (Transaction Logs) - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. - Pub.edb = 150mb - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes Description For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible slowdown in client side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown mainly happens at peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with attachments and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 seconds to open an e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting immediate response before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have also noticed a slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail to your local machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this response time has decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop us from working on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue and do what we need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. Regards, _ Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER Vancouver, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 Pager: (604) 650-4155 This e-mail may be privileged or confidential. Any use of this e-mail by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please call me immediately. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
When the problems are happening, what do these perfmon counters look like: MSExchangeIS\RPC Requests MSExchangeIS\RPC Operations/Sec Hunter -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 7:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown My tendency is to agree with you - however my users are quite heavy. It might not be a hardware issue but how about some tweaking on how exchange itself handles message delivery and threads? Regards, Shawn -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 3:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Yep. I can state with quite a bit of certainty that you're wrong - many have run more users and data on less hardware without these performance issues. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com > -Original Message- > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:04 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > There have been absolutely no changes to any software, > services or network > configs. The only thing that I can think of is we have run > into some kind > of performance barrier based on the abilities of our > hardware, size of our > databases and server usage. Can anyone confirm these theories? > > Thanks > Shawn > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:12 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > Any changes to virus software that you can trace this to? > Any new services > introduced into your Exchange environment? > > -Original Message- > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:11 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same > issues as we are > having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions > would be very > much appreciated. > > Our current setup is; > > - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA > - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors > - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) > - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 > (Transaction > Logs) > - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. > - Pub.edb = 150mb > - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) > - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled > - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes > > Description > > For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible > slowdown in client > side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown > mainly happens at > peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with > attachments > and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 > seconds to open an > e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting > immediate response > before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have > also noticed a > slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail > to your local > machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this > response time has > decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop > us from working > on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue > and do what we > need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. > > Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. > > Regards, > > _ > > Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician > BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER > Vancouver, Canada > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com > Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 > Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 > > Pager: (604) 650-4155 > > > This e-mail may be privileged or confidential. Any use of > this e-mail by an > unintended recipient is prohibited. > If you receive this e-mail in error, please call me immediately. > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
Nate, In my case all of the desktops are new (less than 6 months old) Compaq Deskpro EN's PIII866 upwards, 128Mb memory and oodles of HDD space available. Protocols are all IP and bindings are fine. Attachment sizes are below 2-3Mb. Mcafee Vscan is used on all desktops - updating via FTP to my FTP server on the WAN. No PST's (I'm not that masochistic!) and PING, tracert show nothing to worry about... PBB ~ndi -Original Message- From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 November 2001 12:26 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Okay. What about the desktops we are dealing with? I haven't seen any information on them in your entries so far (have I missed anything?). What about binding order on the desktop? Make sure either RPC or TCPIP is first in line? How big are the attachments being opened? Are they larger than normal? What antivirus software is being used on the desktop (you do have AV software running on the desktop don't you?)? Do your users have PST's (PST=BAD)? If so, how big are they (on average)? What about network connectivity from the desktop (how are the PINGs during this peak time?). Regards. Nate Couch EDS Messaging > -- > From: Roger Seielstad > Reply To: Exchange Discussions > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 05:50 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > Exchange is quite capable of handling the load you're giving it. I > have run similar loads on similar (or lesser) hardware without the > issues you're describing. > > Based on the description of the symptoms you're seeing, I strongly > suggest you revisit the switch/NIC settings - maybe even force both to > 100/Half. > > > > -- > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT > Senior Systems Administrator > Peregrine Systems > Atlanta, GA > http://www.peregrine.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 9:40 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > > > > My tendency is to agree with you - however my users are quite > > heavy. It > > might not be a hardware issue but how about some tweaking on > > how exchange > > itself handles message delivery and threads? > > > > Regards, > > Shawn > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 3:58 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > > > > Yep. I can state with quite a bit of certainty that you're > > wrong - many have > > run more users and data on less hardware without these > > performance issues. > > > > -- > > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT > > Senior Systems Administrator > > Peregrine Systems > > Atlanta, GA > > http://www.peregrine.com > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:04 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > > > > > > > There have been absolutely no changes to any software, > > > services or network > > > configs. The only thing that I can think of is we have run > > > into some kind > > > of performance barrier based on the abilities of our > > > hardware, size of our > > > databases and server usage. Can anyone confirm these theories? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Shawn > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:12 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > > > > > > > Any changes to virus software that you can trace this to? > > > Any new services > > > introduced into your Exchange environment? > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:11 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > > > > > > > I am hoping
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
Okay. What about the desktops we are dealing with? I haven't seen any information on them in your entries so far (have I missed anything?). What about binding order on the desktop? Make sure either RPC or TCPIP is first in line? How big are the attachments being opened? Are they larger than normal? What antivirus software is being used on the desktop (you do have AV software running on the desktop don't you?)? Do your users have PST's (PST=BAD)? If so, how big are they (on average)? What about network connectivity from the desktop (how are the PINGs during this peak time?). Regards. Nate Couch EDS Messaging > -- > From: Roger Seielstad > Reply To: Exchange Discussions > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 05:50 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > Exchange is quite capable of handling the load you're giving it. I have > run > similar loads on similar (or lesser) hardware without the issues you're > describing. > > Based on the description of the symptoms you're seeing, I strongly suggest > you revisit the switch/NIC settings - maybe even force both to 100/Half. > > > > -- > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT > Senior Systems Administrator > Peregrine Systems > Atlanta, GA > http://www.peregrine.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 9:40 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > > > > My tendency is to agree with you - however my users are quite > > heavy. It > > might not be a hardware issue but how about some tweaking on > > how exchange > > itself handles message delivery and threads? > > > > Regards, > > Shawn > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 3:58 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > > > > Yep. I can state with quite a bit of certainty that you're > > wrong - many have > > run more users and data on less hardware without these > > performance issues. > > > > -- > > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT > > Senior Systems Administrator > > Peregrine Systems > > Atlanta, GA > > http://www.peregrine.com > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:04 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > > > > > > > There have been absolutely no changes to any software, > > > services or network > > > configs. The only thing that I can think of is we have run > > > into some kind > > > of performance barrier based on the abilities of our > > > hardware, size of our > > > databases and server usage. Can anyone confirm these theories? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Shawn > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:12 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > > > > > > > Any changes to virus software that you can trace this to? > > > Any new services > > > introduced into your Exchange environment? > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:11 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > > > > > > > I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same > > > issues as we are > > > having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions > > > would be very > > > much appreciated. > > > > > > Our current setup is; > > > > > > - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA > > > - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors > > > - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) > > > - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 > > > (Transaction > > > L
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
Exchange is quite capable of handling the load you're giving it. I have run similar loads on similar (or lesser) hardware without the issues you're describing. Based on the description of the symptoms you're seeing, I strongly suggest you revisit the switch/NIC settings - maybe even force both to 100/Half. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com > -Original Message- > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 9:40 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > My tendency is to agree with you - however my users are quite > heavy. It > might not be a hardware issue but how about some tweaking on > how exchange > itself handles message delivery and threads? > > Regards, > Shawn > > -Original Message- > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 3:58 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > Yep. I can state with quite a bit of certainty that you're > wrong - many have > run more users and data on less hardware without these > performance issues. > > -- > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT > Senior Systems Administrator > Peregrine Systems > Atlanta, GA > http://www.peregrine.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:04 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > > > > There have been absolutely no changes to any software, > > services or network > > configs. The only thing that I can think of is we have run > > into some kind > > of performance barrier based on the abilities of our > > hardware, size of our > > databases and server usage. Can anyone confirm these theories? > > > > Thanks > > Shawn > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:12 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > > > > Any changes to virus software that you can trace this to? > > Any new services > > introduced into your Exchange environment? > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:11 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > > > > I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same > > issues as we are > > having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions > > would be very > > much appreciated. > > > > Our current setup is; > > > > - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA > > - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors > > - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) > > - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 > > (Transaction > > Logs) > > - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. > > - Pub.edb = 150mb > > - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) > > - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled > > - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes > > > > Description > > > > For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible > > slowdown in client > > side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown > > mainly happens at > > peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with > > attachments > > and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 > > seconds to open an > > e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting > > immediate response > > before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have > > also noticed a > > slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail > > to your local > > machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this > > response time has > > decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop > > us from working > > on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue > > and do what we > > need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. > > > > Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. > > > > Regards, > > > > _ > > > > Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician > > BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER > > Vancouver, Canada > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com > > Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 > > Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 > > > > Pager: (604) 650-4155 > > > > > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
> We have Compaq NICS - both forced to 100 full and confirmed > compatibiliy > from Compaq corp. And are the switch ports also forced to the same settings? You have to do both. I HAVE Compaq gear with Cisco switches and still have to do it on every box. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com > -Original Message- > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 9:41 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > We are running Norton 2.1 for Exchange - and I have tried > disabling it. No > luck. > > We have Compaq NICS - both forced to 100 full and confirmed > compatibiliy > from Compaq corp. > > Thanks again for the thoughts. > > Regards, > Shawn > > -Original Message- > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 3:52 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > Two things. > > First, you don't state what (if any) antivirus software is > running on the > machine. There have been issues in the past of AV causing this kind of > slowdown, but if its one of the better vendors you're probably fine. > > Second - my guess is that you're having network problems, > specifically the > NIC to Switch connection is set to autosense, which is BAD. > Force both the > switch and NIC to 100Mb Full Duplex and see if that fixes the > issue. If not, > try 100/Half (some NIC drivers can't handle 100/Full correctly). > > Roger > -- > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT > Senior Systems Administrator > Peregrine Systems > Atlanta, GA > http://www.peregrine.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:11 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > > > > I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same > > issues as we are > > having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions > > would be very > > much appreciated. > > > > Our current setup is; > > > > - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA > > - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors > > - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) > > - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 > > (Transaction > > Logs) > > - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. > > - Pub.edb = 150mb > > - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) > > - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled > > - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes > > > > Description > > > > For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible > > slowdown in client > > side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown > > mainly happens at > > peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with > > attachments > > and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 > > seconds to open an > > e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting > > immediate response > > before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have > > also noticed a > > slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail > > to your local > > machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this > > response time has > > decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop > > us from working > > on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue > > and do what we > > need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. > > > > Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. > > > > Regards, > > > > _ > > > > Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician > > BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER > > Vancouver, Canada > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com > > Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 > > Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 > > > > Pager: (604) 650-4155 > > > > > > This e-mail may be privileged or confidential. Any use of > > this e-mail by an > > unintended recipient is prohibited. > > If you receive this e-mail in error, please call me immediately. > > >
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
I tend to agree with Roger. Just to give you "peace of mind", if you can manage the switch, check to see if you run across any FCS or align errors, or large amounts of small frames called "runts" on the ports that connect to the exchange server. This would be indicative of a duplex mismatch or a faulty nic. byron -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 6:41 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown We are running Norton 2.1 for Exchange - and I have tried disabling it. No luck. We have Compaq NICS - both forced to 100 full and confirmed compatibiliy from Compaq corp. Thanks again for the thoughts. Regards, Shawn -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 3:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Two things. First, you don't state what (if any) antivirus software is running on the machine. There have been issues in the past of AV causing this kind of slowdown, but if its one of the better vendors you're probably fine. Second - my guess is that you're having network problems, specifically the NIC to Switch connection is set to autosense, which is BAD. Force both the switch and NIC to 100Mb Full Duplex and see if that fixes the issue. If not, try 100/Half (some NIC drivers can't handle 100/Full correctly). Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com > -Original Message- > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:11 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same > issues as we are > having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions > would be very > much appreciated. > > Our current setup is; > > - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA > - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors > - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) > - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 > (Transaction > Logs) > - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. > - Pub.edb = 150mb > - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) > - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled > - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes > > Description > > For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible > slowdown in client > side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown > mainly happens at > peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with > attachments > and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 > seconds to open an > e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting > immediate response > before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have > also noticed a > slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail > to your local > machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this > response time has > decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop > us from working > on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue > and do what we > need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. > > Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. > > Regards, > > _ > > Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician > BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER > Vancouver, Canada > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com > Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 > Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 > > Pager: (604) 650-4155 > > > This e-mail may be privileged or confidential. Any use of > this e-mail by an > unintended recipient is prohibited. > If you receive this e-mail in error, please call me immediately. > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives:
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
We are running Norton 2.1 for Exchange - and I have tried disabling it. No luck. We have Compaq NICS - both forced to 100 full and confirmed compatibiliy from Compaq corp. Thanks again for the thoughts. Regards, Shawn -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 3:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Two things. First, you don't state what (if any) antivirus software is running on the machine. There have been issues in the past of AV causing this kind of slowdown, but if its one of the better vendors you're probably fine. Second - my guess is that you're having network problems, specifically the NIC to Switch connection is set to autosense, which is BAD. Force both the switch and NIC to 100Mb Full Duplex and see if that fixes the issue. If not, try 100/Half (some NIC drivers can't handle 100/Full correctly). Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com > -Original Message- > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:11 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same > issues as we are > having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions > would be very > much appreciated. > > Our current setup is; > > - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA > - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors > - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) > - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 > (Transaction > Logs) > - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. > - Pub.edb = 150mb > - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) > - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled > - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes > > Description > > For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible > slowdown in client > side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown > mainly happens at > peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with > attachments > and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 > seconds to open an > e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting > immediate response > before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have > also noticed a > slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail > to your local > machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this > response time has > decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop > us from working > on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue > and do what we > need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. > > Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. > > Regards, > > _ > > Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician > BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER > Vancouver, Canada > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com > Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 > Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 > > Pager: (604) 650-4155 > > > This e-mail may be privileged or confidential. Any use of > this e-mail by an > unintended recipient is prohibited. > If you receive this e-mail in error, please call me immediately. > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
My tendency is to agree with you - however my users are quite heavy. It might not be a hardware issue but how about some tweaking on how exchange itself handles message delivery and threads? Regards, Shawn -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 3:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Yep. I can state with quite a bit of certainty that you're wrong - many have run more users and data on less hardware without these performance issues. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com > -Original Message- > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:04 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > There have been absolutely no changes to any software, > services or network > configs. The only thing that I can think of is we have run > into some kind > of performance barrier based on the abilities of our > hardware, size of our > databases and server usage. Can anyone confirm these theories? > > Thanks > Shawn > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:12 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > Any changes to virus software that you can trace this to? > Any new services > introduced into your Exchange environment? > > -Original Message- > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:11 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same > issues as we are > having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions > would be very > much appreciated. > > Our current setup is; > > - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA > - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors > - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) > - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 > (Transaction > Logs) > - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. > - Pub.edb = 150mb > - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) > - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled > - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes > > Description > > For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible > slowdown in client > side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown > mainly happens at > peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with > attachments > and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 > seconds to open an > e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting > immediate response > before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have > also noticed a > slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail > to your local > machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this > response time has > decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop > us from working > on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue > and do what we > need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. > > Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. > > Regards, > > _ > > Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician > BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER > Vancouver, Canada > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com > Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 > Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 > > Pager: (604) 650-4155 > > > This e-mail may be privileged or confidential. Any use of > this e-mail by an > unintended recipient is prohibited. > If you receive this e-mail in error, please call me immediately. > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ:
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
Nope it is in all the clients - we can eliminate a corrupt profile issue. Regards, Shawn -Original Message- From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Is it all clients? I have seen corrupted profiles that could cause this problem. Anti-virus product could be an issue. When is your online-defrag set for? That could cause some slowdown, if it is running during the day. -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same issues as we are having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Our current setup is; - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 (Transaction Logs) - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. - Pub.edb = 150mb - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes Description For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible slowdown in client side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown mainly happens at peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with attachments and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 seconds to open an e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting immediate response before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have also noticed a slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail to your local machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this response time has decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop us from working on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue and do what we need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. Regards, _ Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER Vancouver, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 Pager: (604) 650-4155 This e-mail may be privileged or confidential. Any use of this e-mail by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please call me immediately. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
I have not done any logging at all. What do you recommend? Just perfmon logging. Shawn -Original Message- From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 2:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown No. logging for the time spent debugging... -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 November 2001 06:39 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown No logging at all. Regards, Shawn -Original Message- From: Cook, David A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 4:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Has logging been on full the entire time or is that just for troubleshooting? Full logging = lost resources. -Original Message- From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown It's becoming one of those unexplained things. I've been having those late-night keeping-me-awake-thoughts of database corruption and other equally nasty shockers though the scan of the event logs (logging on full!) have told me nothing. Confused of Croydon PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 23:28 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Yes this is a very interesting discussion; - but one thing that I do not understand is why now after 2.5 years of running perfectly fine does the box decide to act up. It has been a DC the whole time and has had pretty much the same amount of users the whole time. The only thing that has changed is the priv.edb size and possible some usage and load changes. The server has 1GB of memory and uses it all - as Exchange should. In the spring we replaced some server switches with some high end 10/100 3com ones. It just does not make any sense unless of course the Database size combined with the number of users and load is the issue. Regards, Shawn -Original Message- From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Interesting. Very few members of this list have Ex on DC's for the already over discussed reasons. We may be seeing the downside of having such. Like you say, you can live with it but it does bug a little. Your hardware looks fine (well comparing it to mine anyway!) - the box I already have built and in the rack is a Compaq DL380 with 4 x 18.2Gb 10K2 RAID5 and 2 x 18Gb 10K2 Mirrored, 512Mb memory and dual 1Gb PIII's. Teaming NIC's and a 5200 RAID controller finish it off. I need to set aside some of the christmas holiday to do the transfer. I've discounted any bottlenecks in the LAN as I have just replaced all old hubs and switches with Cisco 3500XL 10/100 switches on GB fibre backbones so it must be the combo of DC and Exchange that is choking it. If I get any ideas I'll let you know. If anyone else has, well I think we'll soon find out Regards PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 23:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Yes my box is a BDC - Compaq Proliant 1850R - and yes I inherited it as well so I did not have a choice in the matter. We are waiting for next years budget but it looks like we will have to live with this machine for at least another year. That is a very interesting thought - there is a 3rd party utility available called DC-Promo that can turn a domain controller into a standalone server. Thanks Shawn -Original Message- From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown ~ndi Ironically I get pretty much the same as you, bad slowdown at peak times. Now, my exchange box is a BDC which I know is against the rules but I inherited it from old and do not have the resource (read time) to migrate until the new year. Is yours a DC? - If so this may be the pattern. FYI, this box is a Dell 2400 single PIII 500, 3 x 9.1Gb RAID5 and 256Mb memory (5.5sp4) but only ~150 users in this particular site. PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 20:11 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same issues as we are having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Our current setup is; - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processo
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
The new gear IS the Quake server Now, next Q - how do I get the quake users to bugger off! -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 November 2001 11:59 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown It IS the network. Force the NIC and switch port to 100m Full Duplex and save the new Compaq gear for a Quake server. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com > -Original Message- > From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:16 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > Interesting. > > Very few members of this list have Ex on DC's for the already > over discussed > reasons. We may be seeing the downside of having such. Like > you say, you > can live with it but it does bug a little. > > Your hardware looks fine (well comparing it to mine anyway!) > - the box I > already have built and in the rack is a Compaq DL380 with 4 x > 18.2Gb 10K2 > RAID5 and 2 x 18Gb 10K2 Mirrored, 512Mb memory and dual 1Gb > PIII's. Teaming > NIC's and a 5200 RAID controller finish it off. I need to > set aside some of > the christmas holiday to do the transfer. I've discounted > any bottlenecks > in the LAN as I have just replaced all old hubs and switches > with Cisco > 3500XL 10/100 switches on GB fibre backbones so it must be > the combo of DC > and Exchange that is choking it. > > If I get any ideas I'll let you know. If anyone else has, > well I think > we'll soon find out > > Regards > > PBB > > > -Original Message----- > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 27 November 2001 23:08 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > Yes my box is a BDC - Compaq Proliant 1850R - and yes I > inherited it as well > so I did not have a choice in the matter. We are waiting for > next years > budget but it looks like we will have to live with this > machine for at least > another year. That is a very interesting thought - there is > a 3rd party > utility available called DC-Promo that can turn a domain > controller into a > standalone server. > > Thanks > Shawn > > -Original Message- > From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:00 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > ~ndi > > Ironically I get pretty much the same as you, bad slowdown at > peak times. > Now, my exchange box is a BDC which I know is against the rules but I > inherited it from old and do not have the resource (read > time) to migrate > until the new year. Is yours a DC? - If so this may be the > pattern. FYI, > this box is a Dell 2400 single PIII 500, 3 x 9.1Gb RAID5 and > 256Mb memory > (5.5sp4) but only ~150 users in this particular site. > > PBB > > > -Original Message- > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 27 November 2001 20:11 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same > issues as we are > having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions > would be very > much appreciated. > > Our current setup is; > > - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA > - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors > - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) > - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 > (Transaction > Logs) > - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. > - Pub.edb = 150mb > - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) > - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled > - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes > > Description > > For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible > slowdown in client > side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown > mainly happens at > peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with > attachments > and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 > seconds to open an > e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting > immediate response > before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have > also noticed a > slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail > to your local > machine,(right click and cop
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
No. logging for the time spent debugging... -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 November 2001 06:39 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown No logging at all. Regards, Shawn -Original Message- From: Cook, David A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 4:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Has logging been on full the entire time or is that just for troubleshooting? Full logging = lost resources. -Original Message- From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown It's becoming one of those unexplained things. I've been having those late-night keeping-me-awake-thoughts of database corruption and other equally nasty shockers though the scan of the event logs (logging on full!) have told me nothing. Confused of Croydon PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 23:28 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Yes this is a very interesting discussion; - but one thing that I do not understand is why now after 2.5 years of running perfectly fine does the box decide to act up. It has been a DC the whole time and has had pretty much the same amount of users the whole time. The only thing that has changed is the priv.edb size and possible some usage and load changes. The server has 1GB of memory and uses it all - as Exchange should. In the spring we replaced some server switches with some high end 10/100 3com ones. It just does not make any sense unless of course the Database size combined with the number of users and load is the issue. Regards, Shawn -Original Message- From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Interesting. Very few members of this list have Ex on DC's for the already over discussed reasons. We may be seeing the downside of having such. Like you say, you can live with it but it does bug a little. Your hardware looks fine (well comparing it to mine anyway!) - the box I already have built and in the rack is a Compaq DL380 with 4 x 18.2Gb 10K2 RAID5 and 2 x 18Gb 10K2 Mirrored, 512Mb memory and dual 1Gb PIII's. Teaming NIC's and a 5200 RAID controller finish it off. I need to set aside some of the christmas holiday to do the transfer. I've discounted any bottlenecks in the LAN as I have just replaced all old hubs and switches with Cisco 3500XL 10/100 switches on GB fibre backbones so it must be the combo of DC and Exchange that is choking it. If I get any ideas I'll let you know. If anyone else has, well I think we'll soon find out Regards PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 23:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Yes my box is a BDC - Compaq Proliant 1850R - and yes I inherited it as well so I did not have a choice in the matter. We are waiting for next years budget but it looks like we will have to live with this machine for at least another year. That is a very interesting thought - there is a 3rd party utility available called DC-Promo that can turn a domain controller into a standalone server. Thanks Shawn -Original Message- From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown ~ndi Ironically I get pretty much the same as you, bad slowdown at peak times. Now, my exchange box is a BDC which I know is against the rules but I inherited it from old and do not have the resource (read time) to migrate until the new year. Is yours a DC? - If so this may be the pattern. FYI, this box is a Dell 2400 single PIII 500, 3 x 9.1Gb RAID5 and 256Mb memory (5.5sp4) but only ~150 users in this particular site. PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 20:11 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same issues as we are having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Our current setup is; - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 (Transaction Logs) - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. - Pub.edb = 150mb - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) - Circular Logging Turned off - Di
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
I would recommend setting up a network sniffer to see the traffic load of the LAN heading to your server. From the configuration you have, I would suspect this to be a good possibility for your bottleneck. Bill Collins _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
oops - I knew it was something alone that lines -Original Message- From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown >>>there is >>>a 3rd party utility available called DC-Promo that can turn >>>a domain controller into a standalone server DCPromo is for changing the role of a Win2k server. U-Promote is a 3rd party utility that can change the role of an NT server. >>>-Original Message- >>>From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:08 PM >>>To: Exchange Discussions >>>Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown >>> >>> >>>Yes my box is a BDC - Compaq Proliant 1850R - and yes I >>>inherited it as well so I did not have a choice in the >>>matter. We are waiting for next years budget but it looks >>>like we will have to live with this machine for at least >>>another year. That is a very interesting thought - there is >>>a 3rd party utility available called DC-Promo that can turn >>>a domain controller into a standalone server. >>> >>>Thanks >>>Shawn >>> >>>-Original Message- >>>From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:00 PM >>>To: Exchange Discussions >>>Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown >>> >>> >>>~ndi >>> >>>Ironically I get pretty much the same as you, bad slowdown >>>at peak times. Now, my exchange box is a BDC which I know is >>>against the rules but I inherited it from old and do not >>>have the resource (read time) to migrate until the new year. >>> Is yours a DC? - If so this may be the pattern. FYI, this >>>box is a Dell 2400 single PIII 500, 3 x 9.1Gb RAID5 and 256Mb memory >>>(5.5sp4) but only ~150 users in this particular site. >>> >>>PBB >>> >>> >>>-Original Message- >>>From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: 27 November 2001 20:11 >>>To: Exchange Discussions >>>Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown >>> >>> >>>I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same >>>issues as we are having and have come up with some >>>solutions. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. >>> >>>Our current setup is; >>> >>>- Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA >>>- Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors >>>- 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) >>> - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 >>>(Transaction >>>Logs) >>>- Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. >>>- Pub.edb = 150mb >>>- Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) >>>- Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled >>>- 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes >>> >>>Description >>> >>>For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible >>>slowdown in client side response times on our exchange >>>server. The slowdown mainly happens at peak times,(9-10am >>>and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with attachments and >>>at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 seconds >>>to open an e-mail with an attachment where we have been >>>getting immediate response before. For scrolling through >>>messages in Outlook we have also noticed a slow down. Also - >>>when copying an attachment from an e-mail to your local >>>machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this >>>response time has decrease dramatically. Although these >>>slowdowns do not stop us from working on a daily basis we >>>would like to get on top of this issue and do what we need >>>to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. >>> >>>Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>_ >>> >>>Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician >>>BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER >>>Vancouver, Canada >>>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com >>>Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 >>>Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 >>> >>>Pager: (604) 650-4155 >>> >>> >>>___
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
Is it all clients? I have seen corrupted profiles that could cause this problem. Anti-virus product could be an issue. When is your online-defrag set for? That could cause some slowdown, if it is running during the day. -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same issues as we are having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Our current setup is; - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 (Transaction Logs) - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. - Pub.edb = 150mb - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes Description For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible slowdown in client side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown mainly happens at peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with attachments and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 seconds to open an e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting immediate response before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have also noticed a slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail to your local machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this response time has decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop us from working on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue and do what we need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. Regards, _ Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER Vancouver, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 Pager: (604) 650-4155 This e-mail may be privileged or confidential. Any use of this e-mail by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please call me immediately. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
>>>there is >>>a 3rd party utility available called DC-Promo that can turn >>>a domain controller into a standalone server DCPromo is for changing the role of a Win2k server. U-Promote is a 3rd party utility that can change the role of an NT server. >>>-Original Message- >>>From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:08 PM >>>To: Exchange Discussions >>>Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown >>> >>> >>>Yes my box is a BDC - Compaq Proliant 1850R - and yes I >>>inherited it as well so I did not have a choice in the >>>matter. We are waiting for next years budget but it looks >>>like we will have to live with this machine for at least >>>another year. That is a very interesting thought - there is >>>a 3rd party utility available called DC-Promo that can turn >>>a domain controller into a standalone server. >>> >>>Thanks >>>Shawn >>> >>>-Original Message- >>>From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:00 PM >>>To: Exchange Discussions >>>Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown >>> >>> >>>~ndi >>> >>>Ironically I get pretty much the same as you, bad slowdown >>>at peak times. Now, my exchange box is a BDC which I know is >>>against the rules but I inherited it from old and do not >>>have the resource (read time) to migrate until the new year. >>> Is yours a DC? - If so this may be the pattern. FYI, this >>>box is a Dell 2400 single PIII 500, 3 x 9.1Gb RAID5 and 256Mb memory >>>(5.5sp4) but only ~150 users in this particular site. >>> >>>PBB >>> >>> >>>-Original Message- >>>From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>Sent: 27 November 2001 20:11 >>>To: Exchange Discussions >>>Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown >>> >>> >>>I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same >>>issues as we are having and have come up with some >>>solutions. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. >>> >>>Our current setup is; >>> >>>- Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA >>>- Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors >>>- 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) >>> - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 >>>(Transaction >>>Logs) >>>- Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. >>>- Pub.edb = 150mb >>>- Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) >>>- Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled >>>- 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes >>> >>>Description >>> >>>For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible >>>slowdown in client side response times on our exchange >>>server. The slowdown mainly happens at peak times,(9-10am >>>and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with attachments and >>>at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 seconds >>>to open an e-mail with an attachment where we have been >>>getting immediate response before. For scrolling through >>>messages in Outlook we have also noticed a slow down. Also - >>>when copying an attachment from an e-mail to your local >>>machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this >>>response time has decrease dramatically. Although these >>>slowdowns do not stop us from working on a daily basis we >>>would like to get on top of this issue and do what we need >>>to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. >>> >>>Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>_ >>> >>>Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician >>>BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER >>>Vancouver, Canada >>>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com >>>Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 >>>Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 >>> >>>Pager: (604) 650-4155 >>> >>> >>>_ >>>List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>>Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >>>To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>_ >>>List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>>Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp >>>To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
It IS the network. Force the NIC and switch port to 100m Full Duplex and save the new Compaq gear for a Quake server. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com > -Original Message- > From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:16 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > Interesting. > > Very few members of this list have Ex on DC's for the already > over discussed > reasons. We may be seeing the downside of having such. Like > you say, you > can live with it but it does bug a little. > > Your hardware looks fine (well comparing it to mine anyway!) > - the box I > already have built and in the rack is a Compaq DL380 with 4 x > 18.2Gb 10K2 > RAID5 and 2 x 18Gb 10K2 Mirrored, 512Mb memory and dual 1Gb > PIII's. Teaming > NIC's and a 5200 RAID controller finish it off. I need to > set aside some of > the christmas holiday to do the transfer. I've discounted > any bottlenecks > in the LAN as I have just replaced all old hubs and switches > with Cisco > 3500XL 10/100 switches on GB fibre backbones so it must be > the combo of DC > and Exchange that is choking it. > > If I get any ideas I'll let you know. If anyone else has, > well I think > we'll soon find out > > Regards > > PBB > > > -Original Message----- > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 27 November 2001 23:08 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > Yes my box is a BDC - Compaq Proliant 1850R - and yes I > inherited it as well > so I did not have a choice in the matter. We are waiting for > next years > budget but it looks like we will have to live with this > machine for at least > another year. That is a very interesting thought - there is > a 3rd party > utility available called DC-Promo that can turn a domain > controller into a > standalone server. > > Thanks > Shawn > > -Original Message- > From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:00 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > ~ndi > > Ironically I get pretty much the same as you, bad slowdown at > peak times. > Now, my exchange box is a BDC which I know is against the rules but I > inherited it from old and do not have the resource (read > time) to migrate > until the new year. Is yours a DC? - If so this may be the > pattern. FYI, > this box is a Dell 2400 single PIII 500, 3 x 9.1Gb RAID5 and > 256Mb memory > (5.5sp4) but only ~150 users in this particular site. > > PBB > > > -Original Message- > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 27 November 2001 20:11 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same > issues as we are > having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions > would be very > much appreciated. > > Our current setup is; > > - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA > - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors > - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) > - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 > (Transaction > Logs) > - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. > - Pub.edb = 150mb > - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) > - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled > - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes > > Description > > For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible > slowdown in client > side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown > mainly happens at > peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with > attachments > and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 > seconds to open an > e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting > immediate response > before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have > also noticed a > slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail > to your local > machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this > response time has > decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop > us from working > on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue > and do what we > need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. &g
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
Yep. I can state with quite a bit of certainty that you're wrong - many have run more users and data on less hardware without these performance issues. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com > -Original Message- > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:04 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > There have been absolutely no changes to any software, > services or network > configs. The only thing that I can think of is we have run > into some kind > of performance barrier based on the abilities of our > hardware, size of our > databases and server usage. Can anyone confirm these theories? > > Thanks > Shawn > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:12 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > Any changes to virus software that you can trace this to? > Any new services > introduced into your Exchange environment? > > -Original Message- > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:11 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same > issues as we are > having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions > would be very > much appreciated. > > Our current setup is; > > - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA > - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors > - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) > - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 > (Transaction > Logs) > - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. > - Pub.edb = 150mb > - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) > - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled > - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes > > Description > > For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible > slowdown in client > side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown > mainly happens at > peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with > attachments > and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 > seconds to open an > e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting > immediate response > before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have > also noticed a > slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail > to your local > machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this > response time has > decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop > us from working > on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue > and do what we > need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. > > Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. > > Regards, > > _ > > Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician > BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER > Vancouver, Canada > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com > Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 > Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 > > Pager: (604) 650-4155 > > > This e-mail may be privileged or confidential. Any use of > this e-mail by an > unintended recipient is prohibited. > If you receive this e-mail in error, please call me immediately. > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
Two things. First, you don't state what (if any) antivirus software is running on the machine. There have been issues in the past of AV causing this kind of slowdown, but if its one of the better vendors you're probably fine. Second - my guess is that you're having network problems, specifically the NIC to Switch connection is set to autosense, which is BAD. Force both the switch and NIC to 100Mb Full Duplex and see if that fixes the issue. If not, try 100/Half (some NIC drivers can't handle 100/Full correctly). Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE MCT Senior Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems Atlanta, GA http://www.peregrine.com > -Original Message- > From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:11 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown > > > I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same > issues as we are > having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions > would be very > much appreciated. > > Our current setup is; > > - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA > - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors > - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) > - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 > (Transaction > Logs) > - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. > - Pub.edb = 150mb > - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) > - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled > - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes > > Description > > For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible > slowdown in client > side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown > mainly happens at > peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with > attachments > and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 > seconds to open an > e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting > immediate response > before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have > also noticed a > slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail > to your local > machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this > response time has > decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop > us from working > on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue > and do what we > need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. > > Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. > > Regards, > > _ > > Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician > BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER > Vancouver, Canada > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com > Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 > Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 > > Pager: (604) 650-4155 > > > This e-mail may be privileged or confidential. Any use of > this e-mail by an > unintended recipient is prohibited. > If you receive this e-mail in error, please call me immediately. > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
No logging at all. Regards, Shawn -Original Message- From: Cook, David A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 4:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Has logging been on full the entire time or is that just for troubleshooting? Full logging = lost resources. -Original Message- From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown It's becoming one of those unexplained things. I've been having those late-night keeping-me-awake-thoughts of database corruption and other equally nasty shockers though the scan of the event logs (logging on full!) have told me nothing. Confused of Croydon PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 23:28 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Yes this is a very interesting discussion; - but one thing that I do not understand is why now after 2.5 years of running perfectly fine does the box decide to act up. It has been a DC the whole time and has had pretty much the same amount of users the whole time. The only thing that has changed is the priv.edb size and possible some usage and load changes. The server has 1GB of memory and uses it all - as Exchange should. In the spring we replaced some server switches with some high end 10/100 3com ones. It just does not make any sense unless of course the Database size combined with the number of users and load is the issue. Regards, Shawn -Original Message- From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Interesting. Very few members of this list have Ex on DC's for the already over discussed reasons. We may be seeing the downside of having such. Like you say, you can live with it but it does bug a little. Your hardware looks fine (well comparing it to mine anyway!) - the box I already have built and in the rack is a Compaq DL380 with 4 x 18.2Gb 10K2 RAID5 and 2 x 18Gb 10K2 Mirrored, 512Mb memory and dual 1Gb PIII's. Teaming NIC's and a 5200 RAID controller finish it off. I need to set aside some of the christmas holiday to do the transfer. I've discounted any bottlenecks in the LAN as I have just replaced all old hubs and switches with Cisco 3500XL 10/100 switches on GB fibre backbones so it must be the combo of DC and Exchange that is choking it. If I get any ideas I'll let you know. If anyone else has, well I think we'll soon find out Regards PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 23:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Yes my box is a BDC - Compaq Proliant 1850R - and yes I inherited it as well so I did not have a choice in the matter. We are waiting for next years budget but it looks like we will have to live with this machine for at least another year. That is a very interesting thought - there is a 3rd party utility available called DC-Promo that can turn a domain controller into a standalone server. Thanks Shawn -Original Message- From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown ~ndi Ironically I get pretty much the same as you, bad slowdown at peak times. Now, my exchange box is a BDC which I know is against the rules but I inherited it from old and do not have the resource (read time) to migrate until the new year. Is yours a DC? - If so this may be the pattern. FYI, this box is a Dell 2400 single PIII 500, 3 x 9.1Gb RAID5 and 256Mb memory (5.5sp4) but only ~150 users in this particular site. PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 20:11 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same issues as we are having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Our current setup is; - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 (Transaction Logs) - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. - Pub.edb = 150mb - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes Description For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible slowdown in client side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown mainly
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
Has logging been on full the entire time or is that just for troubleshooting? Full logging = lost resources. -Original Message- From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown It's becoming one of those unexplained things. I've been having those late-night keeping-me-awake-thoughts of database corruption and other equally nasty shockers though the scan of the event logs (logging on full!) have told me nothing. Confused of Croydon PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 23:28 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Yes this is a very interesting discussion; - but one thing that I do not understand is why now after 2.5 years of running perfectly fine does the box decide to act up. It has been a DC the whole time and has had pretty much the same amount of users the whole time. The only thing that has changed is the priv.edb size and possible some usage and load changes. The server has 1GB of memory and uses it all - as Exchange should. In the spring we replaced some server switches with some high end 10/100 3com ones. It just does not make any sense unless of course the Database size combined with the number of users and load is the issue. Regards, Shawn -Original Message- From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Interesting. Very few members of this list have Ex on DC's for the already over discussed reasons. We may be seeing the downside of having such. Like you say, you can live with it but it does bug a little. Your hardware looks fine (well comparing it to mine anyway!) - the box I already have built and in the rack is a Compaq DL380 with 4 x 18.2Gb 10K2 RAID5 and 2 x 18Gb 10K2 Mirrored, 512Mb memory and dual 1Gb PIII's. Teaming NIC's and a 5200 RAID controller finish it off. I need to set aside some of the christmas holiday to do the transfer. I've discounted any bottlenecks in the LAN as I have just replaced all old hubs and switches with Cisco 3500XL 10/100 switches on GB fibre backbones so it must be the combo of DC and Exchange that is choking it. If I get any ideas I'll let you know. If anyone else has, well I think we'll soon find out Regards PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 23:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Yes my box is a BDC - Compaq Proliant 1850R - and yes I inherited it as well so I did not have a choice in the matter. We are waiting for next years budget but it looks like we will have to live with this machine for at least another year. That is a very interesting thought - there is a 3rd party utility available called DC-Promo that can turn a domain controller into a standalone server. Thanks Shawn -Original Message- From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown ~ndi Ironically I get pretty much the same as you, bad slowdown at peak times. Now, my exchange box is a BDC which I know is against the rules but I inherited it from old and do not have the resource (read time) to migrate until the new year. Is yours a DC? - If so this may be the pattern. FYI, this box is a Dell 2400 single PIII 500, 3 x 9.1Gb RAID5 and 256Mb memory (5.5sp4) but only ~150 users in this particular site. PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 20:11 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same issues as we are having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Our current setup is; - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 (Transaction Logs) - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. - Pub.edb = 150mb - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes Description For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible slowdown in client side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown mainly happens at peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with attachments and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 seconds to open an e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting immediate response be
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
Hehe! -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 23:29 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Believe me I have become a perfmon master - all the counters indicate the server is a rocket ship. I have re-boot the exchange server multiple times - that did not work. Regards, Shawn -Original Message- From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown turn on some perf-mon counters and see whatcha see. be gentle with the graphing update interval. if you can squeeze in a server restart, you could possibly be an instant hero. -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown There have been absolutely no changes to any software, services or network configs. The only thing that I can think of is we have run into some kind of performance barrier based on the abilities of our hardware, size of our databases and server usage. Can anyone confirm these theories? Thanks Shawn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Any changes to virus software that you can trace this to? Any new services introduced into your Exchange environment? -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same issues as we are having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Our current setup is; - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 (Transaction Logs) - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. - Pub.edb = 150mb - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes Description For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible slowdown in client side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown mainly happens at peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with attachments and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 seconds to open an e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting immediate response before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have also noticed a slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail to your local machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this response time has decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop us from working on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue and do what we need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. Regards, _ Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER Vancouver, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 Pager: (604) 650-4155 This e-mail may be privileged or confidential. Any use of this e-mail by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please call me immediately. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may be legally privileged, they are intended solely for the use of the addressee only. The contents and information may not be used nor disclosed to anyone other than this addressee, nor may it be copied or distributed in any way. Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Millfield Partnership Limited. Millfield Partnership Limited recommend that this email and all attachments are checked for virus's before use. This email and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or defect, which might affect any computer or IT system into which they are received and opened. However it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure they are virus free. No responsibility is accepted by Millfield Partnership Limited for any loss or damage arising in any way from receipt or use thereof. No contracts may be concluded on behalf of Millfield Partnership Limited by means of email communications. Where signatures are required email will not be accepted as a substitute. If you have received this email in error, could you please n
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
It's becoming one of those unexplained things. I've been having those late-night keeping-me-awake-thoughts of database corruption and other equally nasty shockers though the scan of the event logs (logging on full!) have told me nothing. Confused of Croydon PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 23:28 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Yes this is a very interesting discussion; - but one thing that I do not understand is why now after 2.5 years of running perfectly fine does the box decide to act up. It has been a DC the whole time and has had pretty much the same amount of users the whole time. The only thing that has changed is the priv.edb size and possible some usage and load changes. The server has 1GB of memory and uses it all - as Exchange should. In the spring we replaced some server switches with some high end 10/100 3com ones. It just does not make any sense unless of course the Database size combined with the number of users and load is the issue. Regards, Shawn -Original Message- From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Interesting. Very few members of this list have Ex on DC's for the already over discussed reasons. We may be seeing the downside of having such. Like you say, you can live with it but it does bug a little. Your hardware looks fine (well comparing it to mine anyway!) - the box I already have built and in the rack is a Compaq DL380 with 4 x 18.2Gb 10K2 RAID5 and 2 x 18Gb 10K2 Mirrored, 512Mb memory and dual 1Gb PIII's. Teaming NIC's and a 5200 RAID controller finish it off. I need to set aside some of the christmas holiday to do the transfer. I've discounted any bottlenecks in the LAN as I have just replaced all old hubs and switches with Cisco 3500XL 10/100 switches on GB fibre backbones so it must be the combo of DC and Exchange that is choking it. If I get any ideas I'll let you know. If anyone else has, well I think we'll soon find out Regards PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 23:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Yes my box is a BDC - Compaq Proliant 1850R - and yes I inherited it as well so I did not have a choice in the matter. We are waiting for next years budget but it looks like we will have to live with this machine for at least another year. That is a very interesting thought - there is a 3rd party utility available called DC-Promo that can turn a domain controller into a standalone server. Thanks Shawn -Original Message- From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown ~ndi Ironically I get pretty much the same as you, bad slowdown at peak times. Now, my exchange box is a BDC which I know is against the rules but I inherited it from old and do not have the resource (read time) to migrate until the new year. Is yours a DC? - If so this may be the pattern. FYI, this box is a Dell 2400 single PIII 500, 3 x 9.1Gb RAID5 and 256Mb memory (5.5sp4) but only ~150 users in this particular site. PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 20:11 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same issues as we are having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Our current setup is; - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 (Transaction Logs) - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. - Pub.edb = 150mb - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes Description For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible slowdown in client side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown mainly happens at peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with attachments and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 seconds to open an e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting immediate response before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have also noticed a slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail to your local machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this response time has decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop us from working on a
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
Believe me I have become a perfmon master - all the counters indicate the server is a rocket ship. I have re-boot the exchange server multiple times - that did not work. Regards, Shawn -Original Message- From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown turn on some perf-mon counters and see whatcha see. be gentle with the graphing update interval. if you can squeeze in a server restart, you could possibly be an instant hero. -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown There have been absolutely no changes to any software, services or network configs. The only thing that I can think of is we have run into some kind of performance barrier based on the abilities of our hardware, size of our databases and server usage. Can anyone confirm these theories? Thanks Shawn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Any changes to virus software that you can trace this to? Any new services introduced into your Exchange environment? -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same issues as we are having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Our current setup is; - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 (Transaction Logs) - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. - Pub.edb = 150mb - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes Description For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible slowdown in client side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown mainly happens at peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with attachments and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 seconds to open an e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting immediate response before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have also noticed a slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail to your local machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this response time has decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop us from working on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue and do what we need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. Regards, _ Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER Vancouver, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 Pager: (604) 650-4155 This e-mail may be privileged or confidential. Any use of this e-mail by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please call me immediately. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[E
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
Yes this is a very interesting discussion; - but one thing that I do not understand is why now after 2.5 years of running perfectly fine does the box decide to act up. It has been a DC the whole time and has had pretty much the same amount of users the whole time. The only thing that has changed is the priv.edb size and possible some usage and load changes. The server has 1GB of memory and uses it all - as Exchange should. In the spring we replaced some server switches with some high end 10/100 3com ones. It just does not make any sense unless of course the Database size combined with the number of users and load is the issue. Regards, Shawn -Original Message- From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Interesting. Very few members of this list have Ex on DC's for the already over discussed reasons. We may be seeing the downside of having such. Like you say, you can live with it but it does bug a little. Your hardware looks fine (well comparing it to mine anyway!) - the box I already have built and in the rack is a Compaq DL380 with 4 x 18.2Gb 10K2 RAID5 and 2 x 18Gb 10K2 Mirrored, 512Mb memory and dual 1Gb PIII's. Teaming NIC's and a 5200 RAID controller finish it off. I need to set aside some of the christmas holiday to do the transfer. I've discounted any bottlenecks in the LAN as I have just replaced all old hubs and switches with Cisco 3500XL 10/100 switches on GB fibre backbones so it must be the combo of DC and Exchange that is choking it. If I get any ideas I'll let you know. If anyone else has, well I think we'll soon find out Regards PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 23:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Yes my box is a BDC - Compaq Proliant 1850R - and yes I inherited it as well so I did not have a choice in the matter. We are waiting for next years budget but it looks like we will have to live with this machine for at least another year. That is a very interesting thought - there is a 3rd party utility available called DC-Promo that can turn a domain controller into a standalone server. Thanks Shawn -Original Message- From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown ~ndi Ironically I get pretty much the same as you, bad slowdown at peak times. Now, my exchange box is a BDC which I know is against the rules but I inherited it from old and do not have the resource (read time) to migrate until the new year. Is yours a DC? - If so this may be the pattern. FYI, this box is a Dell 2400 single PIII 500, 3 x 9.1Gb RAID5 and 256Mb memory (5.5sp4) but only ~150 users in this particular site. PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 20:11 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same issues as we are having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Our current setup is; - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 (Transaction Logs) - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. - Pub.edb = 150mb - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes Description For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible slowdown in client side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown mainly happens at peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with attachments and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 seconds to open an e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting immediate response before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have also noticed a slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail to your local machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this response time has decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop us from working on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue and do what we need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. Regards, _ Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER Vancouver, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
Jeff, My perfmons show very little is happening that could be attributed to bottlenecking but the reboot option has yet to be exorcised. I'm a bit of a fan of keeping servers up as I trust NT to do it's job but sometimes I suppose there is only one way to find out... Thanks Paul. -Original Message- From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 23:22 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown turn on some perf-mon counters and see whatcha see. be gentle with the graphing update interval. if you can squeeze in a server restart, you could possibly be an instant hero. -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown There have been absolutely no changes to any software, services or network configs. The only thing that I can think of is we have run into some kind of performance barrier based on the abilities of our hardware, size of our databases and server usage. Can anyone confirm these theories? Thanks Shawn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Any changes to virus software that you can trace this to? Any new services introduced into your Exchange environment? -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same issues as we are having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Our current setup is; - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 (Transaction Logs) - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. - Pub.edb = 150mb - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes Description For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible slowdown in client side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown mainly happens at peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with attachments and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 seconds to open an e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting immediate response before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have also noticed a slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail to your local machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this response time has decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop us from working on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue and do what we need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. Regards, _ Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER Vancouver, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 Pager: (604) 650-4155 This e-mail may be privileged or confidential. Any use of this e-mail by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please call me immediately. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and may be legally privileged, they are intended solely for the use of the addressee only. The contents and information may not be used nor disclosed to anyone other than this addressee, nor may it be copied or distributed in any way. Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Millfield Partnership Limited. Millfield Partnership Limited recommend that this email and all attachments are checked for virus's before use. This email and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or defect, which might affect any computer or IT system into which they are received and opened. However it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure they are virus free. No responsibility is accepted by Millfield Partnership Limited for any loss or damage arising in any way from receipt or use thereof. No contracts may be concluded on behalf of Millfield Partnership Limited by means of email communications. Where signatures are required email will not be accepted as a substitute. If you have received this email in error, could you please notify the sender immediately, so that Millfield Partnership Limited may arrange for its proper
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
turn on some perf-mon counters and see whatcha see. be gentle with the graphing update interval. if you can squeeze in a server restart, you could possibly be an instant hero. -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown There have been absolutely no changes to any software, services or network configs. The only thing that I can think of is we have run into some kind of performance barrier based on the abilities of our hardware, size of our databases and server usage. Can anyone confirm these theories? Thanks Shawn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Any changes to virus software that you can trace this to? Any new services introduced into your Exchange environment? -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same issues as we are having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Our current setup is; - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 (Transaction Logs) - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. - Pub.edb = 150mb - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes Description For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible slowdown in client side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown mainly happens at peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with attachments and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 seconds to open an e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting immediate response before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have also noticed a slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail to your local machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this response time has decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop us from working on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue and do what we need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. Regards, _ Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER Vancouver, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 Pager: (604) 650-4155 This e-mail may be privileged or confidential. Any use of this e-mail by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please call me immediately. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
Interesting. Very few members of this list have Ex on DC's for the already over discussed reasons. We may be seeing the downside of having such. Like you say, you can live with it but it does bug a little. Your hardware looks fine (well comparing it to mine anyway!) - the box I already have built and in the rack is a Compaq DL380 with 4 x 18.2Gb 10K2 RAID5 and 2 x 18Gb 10K2 Mirrored, 512Mb memory and dual 1Gb PIII's. Teaming NIC's and a 5200 RAID controller finish it off. I need to set aside some of the christmas holiday to do the transfer. I've discounted any bottlenecks in the LAN as I have just replaced all old hubs and switches with Cisco 3500XL 10/100 switches on GB fibre backbones so it must be the combo of DC and Exchange that is choking it. If I get any ideas I'll let you know. If anyone else has, well I think we'll soon find out Regards PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 23:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Yes my box is a BDC - Compaq Proliant 1850R - and yes I inherited it as well so I did not have a choice in the matter. We are waiting for next years budget but it looks like we will have to live with this machine for at least another year. That is a very interesting thought - there is a 3rd party utility available called DC-Promo that can turn a domain controller into a standalone server. Thanks Shawn -Original Message- From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown ~ndi Ironically I get pretty much the same as you, bad slowdown at peak times. Now, my exchange box is a BDC which I know is against the rules but I inherited it from old and do not have the resource (read time) to migrate until the new year. Is yours a DC? - If so this may be the pattern. FYI, this box is a Dell 2400 single PIII 500, 3 x 9.1Gb RAID5 and 256Mb memory (5.5sp4) but only ~150 users in this particular site. PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 20:11 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same issues as we are having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Our current setup is; - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 (Transaction Logs) - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. - Pub.edb = 150mb - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes Description For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible slowdown in client side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown mainly happens at peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with attachments and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 seconds to open an e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting immediate response before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have also noticed a slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail to your local machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this response time has decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop us from working on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue and do what we need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. Regards, _ Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER Vancouver, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 Pager: (604) 650-4155 _ _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
Yes my box is a BDC - Compaq Proliant 1850R - and yes I inherited it as well so I did not have a choice in the matter. We are waiting for next years budget but it looks like we will have to live with this machine for at least another year. That is a very interesting thought - there is a 3rd party utility available called DC-Promo that can turn a domain controller into a standalone server. Thanks Shawn -Original Message- From: Paul Bouzan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown ~ndi Ironically I get pretty much the same as you, bad slowdown at peak times. Now, my exchange box is a BDC which I know is against the rules but I inherited it from old and do not have the resource (read time) to migrate until the new year. Is yours a DC? - If so this may be the pattern. FYI, this box is a Dell 2400 single PIII 500, 3 x 9.1Gb RAID5 and 256Mb memory (5.5sp4) but only ~150 users in this particular site. PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 20:11 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same issues as we are having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Our current setup is; - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 (Transaction Logs) - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. - Pub.edb = 150mb - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes Description For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible slowdown in client side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown mainly happens at peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with attachments and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 seconds to open an e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting immediate response before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have also noticed a slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail to your local machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this response time has decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop us from working on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue and do what we need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. Regards, _ Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER Vancouver, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 Pager: (604) 650-4155 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
There have been absolutely no changes to any software, services or network configs. The only thing that I can think of is we have run into some kind of performance barrier based on the abilities of our hardware, size of our databases and server usage. Can anyone confirm these theories? Thanks Shawn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:12 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown Any changes to virus software that you can trace this to? Any new services introduced into your Exchange environment? -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same issues as we are having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Our current setup is; - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 (Transaction Logs) - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. - Pub.edb = 150mb - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes Description For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible slowdown in client side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown mainly happens at peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with attachments and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 seconds to open an e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting immediate response before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have also noticed a slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail to your local machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this response time has decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop us from working on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue and do what we need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. Regards, _ Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER Vancouver, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 Pager: (604) 650-4155 This e-mail may be privileged or confidential. Any use of this e-mail by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please call me immediately. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
~ndi Ironically I get pretty much the same as you, bad slowdown at peak times. Now, my exchange box is a BDC which I know is against the rules but I inherited it from old and do not have the resource (read time) to migrate until the new year. Is yours a DC? - If so this may be the pattern. FYI, this box is a Dell 2400 single PIII 500, 3 x 9.1Gb RAID5 and 256Mb memory (5.5sp4) but only ~150 users in this particular site. PBB -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2001 20:11 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same issues as we are having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Our current setup is; - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 (Transaction Logs) - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. - Pub.edb = 150mb - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes Description For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible slowdown in client side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown mainly happens at peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with attachments and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 seconds to open an e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting immediate response before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have also noticed a slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail to your local machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this response time has decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop us from working on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue and do what we need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. Regards, _ Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER Vancouver, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 Pager: (604) 650-4155 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown
Any changes to virus software that you can trace this to? Any new services introduced into your Exchange environment? -Original Message- From: Leblanc, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Exchange Server - Outlook Client Slowdown I am hoping someone out there is having some of the same issues as we are having and have come up with some solutions. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Our current setup is; - Single Server Exchange Server Enterprise 5.5 Sp4 running OWA - Compaq Server Dual PII 450 Xeon Processors - 5 hard drives - 3 10,000rpm 36.4 GB drives in RAID 5 (Databases) - 2 10,000rpm 9.1 GB drives in RAID 1 (Transaction Logs) - Server is running at 100mbps full duplex. - Pub.edb = 150mb - Priv.edb 18.5 GB (approx 40GB of free space) - Circular Logging Turned off - Differential Arcserve Backup enabled - 200 - 230 Users and 300 mailboxes Description For the past couple of weeks we have notice a perceptible slowdown in client side response times on our exchange server. The slowdown mainly happens at peak times,(9-10am and 2-3pm) however we have noticed it with attachments and at other times as well. It sometimes can take 5-8 seconds to open an e-mail with an attachment where we have been getting immediate response before. For scrolling through messages in Outlook we have also noticed a slow down. Also - when copying an attachment from an e-mail to your local machine,(right click and copy, then paste to desktop) this response time has decrease dramatically. Although these slowdowns do not stop us from working on a daily basis we would like to get on top of this issue and do what we need to do to keep our Exchange server speedy. Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated. Regards, _ Shawn M. Leblanc, Network Technician BULL, HOUSSER & TUPPER Vancouver, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bht.com Tel: (604) 687-6575 or Direct # 641-4919 Fax: (604) 641-4949 or Direct # 646-2500 Pager: (604) 650-4155 This e-mail may be privileged or confidential. Any use of this e-mail by an unintended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please call me immediately. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
