RE: How Organizational Forms Work?
The Outlook forms passwords don't protect jack sh!t. They are nothing more than a decorative item. Even the home grown wanna be people can get to the password very easily. All you need to do is read the help file for OOM. The key is securing your forms library. You can't protect the users from going to design mode and poking around, but you can prevent them from publishing the messed up version overwriting the production form. So, the only threat is from a disgruntled Exchange admin. But, you do keep your Exchange Gods happy, don't you? Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Jerzy Setmajer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How Organizational Forms Work? Well, first - do not give disgruntled employees permission to post Organizational forms. Second, password protect all the forms before you post. Keep the password list safe so you can unlock the form. Usually, the developers want to password protect their own forms - don't let them. You need to be in control. The password protection on forms is not the greatest, but it keeps most of the home grown wanna be's at bay. And if you happen to run into a REAL hacker and he has access to your network, Outlook forms will be the least of your problems. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How Organizational Forms Work?
Well now the trick there would be knowing that they were disgruntled, now wouldn't it? :) -Original Message- From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 2:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How Organizational Forms Work? The Outlook forms passwords don't protect jack sh!t. They are nothing more than a decorative item. Even the home grown wanna be people can get to the password very easily. All you need to do is read the help file for OOM. The key is securing your forms library. You can't protect the users from going to design mode and poking around, but you can prevent them from publishing the messed up version overwriting the production form. So, the only threat is from a disgruntled Exchange admin. But, you do keep your Exchange Gods happy, don't you? Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Jerzy Setmajer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How Organizational Forms Work? Well, first - do not give disgruntled employees permission to post Organizational forms. Second, password protect all the forms before you post. Keep the password list safe so you can unlock the form. Usually, the developers want to password protect their own forms - don't let them. You need to be in control. The password protection on forms is not the greatest, but it keeps most of the home grown wanna be's at bay. And if you happen to run into a REAL hacker and he has access to your network, Outlook forms will be the least of your problems. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How Organizational Forms Work?
Well, first - do not give disgruntled employees permission to post Organizational forms. Second, password protect all the forms before you post. Keep the password list safe so you can unlock the form. Usually, the developers want to password protect their own forms - don't let them. You need to be in control. The password protection on forms is not the greatest, but it keeps most of the home grown wanna be's at bay. And if you happen to run into a REAL hacker and he has access to your network, Outlook forms will be the least of your problems. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How Organizational Forms Work?
All it led to was another buyout (Citi). So far none of them have gained access to my server. The admin in question fled for the hills like a sissy when Citi bought us all out because they (Dallas) would no longer be the Big Kahuna. Ultimately I removed all his forms from the server but we didn't even discover that there was an issue until 18 months after he was gone. -Original Message- From: Microsoft Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: FW: How Organizational Forms Work? Lori, did this problem lead to a policy change at that company? What became of the incident? I am trying to avoid this exact scenario and would appreciate any advice. Thanks, Steve Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 11:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How Organizational Forms Work? A buyout ago (The Associates) we had a chucklehead from the home office come onto my server and install a bunch of his crappy forms. If you loaded one of his forms (any one) onto your machine, you would instantly lose the ability to send mail, as the send button is now gone from the standard e-mail form. Clearing forms cache does not fix it. Removing and reinstalling Outlook does not fix it. Reimaging the entire hard drive fixes it. YMMV. -Original Message- From: Microsoft Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: How Organizational Forms Work? Our environment consists of Exchange 5.5/SP4 servers with OL2000 and we have approximately 25,000 users. We currently do not allow forms to be published to the Organizational Forms Library because of a fear of the impact it will have on Outlook response time if there are too many forms. Is this a legitimate fear? I can not find any Microsoft Documentation that states why we shouldn't publish forms to the Organizational Forms Library. And currently, this policy is stifling Outlook/Exchange development projects. Can anyone provide me with some advice on this issue? Thanks in advance. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How Organizational Forms Work?
Here all users have Reviewer rights. Only myself and one more person have higher rights to the Org Forms folder. If someone wants to develop their own form, I tell them to do it at their own risk on their own PC. When they feel it's ready, they send it to our group as an .oft file for approval. If we find absolutely nothing wrong with the form (and if I'm in a good mood that day), then WE publish it to the Org Forms Library. Works for us, but YMMV. Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Microsoft Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: FW: How Organizational Forms Work? Lori, did this problem lead to a policy change at that company? What became of the incident? I am trying to avoid this exact scenario and would appreciate any advice. Thanks, Steve Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 11:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How Organizational Forms Work? A buyout ago (The Associates) we had a chucklehead from the home office come onto my server and install a bunch of his crappy forms. If you loaded one of his forms (any one) onto your machine, you would instantly lose the ability to send mail, as the send button is now gone from the standard e-mail form. Clearing forms cache does not fix it. Removing and reinstalling Outlook does not fix it. Reimaging the entire hard drive fixes it. YMMV. -Original Message- From: Microsoft Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: How Organizational Forms Work? Our environment consists of Exchange 5.5/SP4 servers with OL2000 and we have approximately 25,000 users. We currently do not allow forms to be published to the Organizational Forms Library because of a fear of the impact it will have on Outlook response time if there are too many forms. Is this a legitimate fear? I can not find any Microsoft Documentation that states why we shouldn't publish forms to the Organizational Forms Library. And currently, this policy is stifling Outlook/Exchange development projects. Can anyone provide me with some advice on this issue? Thanks in advance. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How Organizational Forms Work?
From my experience, if Outlook forms are put together by a responsible person with basic knowledge of vbscripting, the forms can simplify a lot of tasks and be used in variety of productive ways. I do not believe they have a high impact on processing other than being usually larger than regular mail. You can replicate Organizational Forms folder across multiple servers to improve performance, just remember that any updates will not be instantaneous for everyone. DO NOT allow your form developer to have access to post forms by him/herself. Always test the form before posting. If you have different clients throughout your organization - for example Outlook97/98/2000 - test the form on all versions. Also based on past experience, hide the forms instead of DELETING them and keep it hidden for at least 3 months. Nothing worse than finding out that they still need it an having to restore just to get it back because no one seems to have a copy of it. Good luck Jerzy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How Organizational Forms Work?
Actually instead of hiding, I prefer to just move them to a public folder called Form Archives that only I have access to. I also have another public folder called Form Backups. I copy the existing form to there before replacing the production form with an upgraded version. So if something goes wrong, you just copy it back and voila your change is backed off. Serdar Soysal -Original Message- From: Jerzy Setmajer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How Organizational Forms Work? From my experience, if Outlook forms are put together by a responsible person with basic knowledge of vbscripting, the forms can simplify a lot of tasks and be used in variety of productive ways. I do not believe they have a high impact on processing other than being usually larger than regular mail. You can replicate Organizational Forms folder across multiple servers to improve performance, just remember that any updates will not be instantaneous for everyone. DO NOT allow your form developer to have access to post forms by him/herself. Always test the form before posting. If you have different clients throughout your organization - for example Outlook97/98/2000 - test the form on all versions. Also based on past experience, hide the forms instead of DELETING them and keep it hidden for at least 3 months. Nothing worse than finding out that they still need it an having to restore just to get it back because no one seems to have a copy of it. Good luck Jerzy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How Organizational Forms Work?
What about new viri installed via a disgruntled employee using vbs -Original Message- From: Microsoft Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 6:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: FW: How Organizational Forms Work? Lori, did this problem lead to a policy change at that company? What became of the incident? I am trying to avoid this exact scenario and would appreciate any advice. Thanks, Steve Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 11:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How Organizational Forms Work? A buyout ago (The Associates) we had a chucklehead from the home office come onto my server and install a bunch of his crappy forms. If you loaded one of his forms (any one) onto your machine, you would instantly lose the ability to send mail, as the send button is now gone from the standard e-mail form. Clearing forms cache does not fix it. Removing and reinstalling Outlook does not fix it. Reimaging the entire hard drive fixes it. YMMV. -Original Message- From: Microsoft Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: How Organizational Forms Work? Our environment consists of Exchange 5.5/SP4 servers with OL2000 and we have approximately 25,000 users. We currently do not allow forms to be published to the Organizational Forms Library because of a fear of the impact it will have on Outlook response time if there are too many forms. Is this a legitimate fear? I can not find any Microsoft Documentation that states why we shouldn't publish forms to the Organizational Forms Library. And currently, this policy is stifling Outlook/Exchange development projects. Can anyone provide me with some advice on this issue? Thanks in advance. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How Organizational Forms Work?
I hope so - I'm about to get a new manager and that will be the topic of our first meeting, as soon as I find out who it's going to be! -Original Message- From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 12:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How Organizational Forms Work? Make sure to pay me a Frozen Strawberry Margarita next time we'll see us :-)) Maybe at MEC this year... Each time I messed up some of my menus when testing new add-ins (usually my own) I have to delete it ;-) -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 11:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How Organizational Forms Work? Siegfried!! You rock!! Now I don't have to rebuild my test box. The one financial guy who had to get rebuilt deserved it. And much more. I swear I looked for this issue on Slipstick but couldn't find anything that day. -Original Message- From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 1:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How Organizational Forms Work? Did you try to delete outcmd.dat? It holds all menu/toolbar customization stuff. Search your HD for it. IMHO it'll not get overwritten by a reinstall since it belongs to user data (as the signature etc). On my Win.XP machine it is at driveletter:\Documents and Settings\user\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook. YMMV Siegfried / -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 6:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How Organizational Forms Work? A buyout ago (The Associates) we had a chucklehead from the home office come onto my server and install a bunch of his crappy forms. If you loaded one of his forms (any one) onto your machine, you would instantly lose the ability to send mail, as the send button is now gone from the standard e-mail form. Clearing forms cache does not fix it. Removing and reinstalling Outlook does not fix it. Reimaging the entire hard drive fixes it. YMMV. -Original Message- From: Microsoft Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: How Organizational Forms Work? Our environment consists of Exchange 5.5/SP4 servers with OL2000 and we have approximately 25,000 users. We currently do not allow forms to be published to the Organizational Forms Library because of a fear of the impact it will have on Outlook response time if there are too many forms. Is this a legitimate fear? I can not find any Microsoft Documentation that states why we shouldn't publish forms to the Organizational Forms Library. And currently, this policy is stifling Outlook/Exchange development projects. Can anyone provide me with some advice on this issue? Thanks in advance. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How Organizational Forms Work?
In a multi-Site environment you may wish to ensure that they are replicated to at least one server in every Site or ensure that there is affinity (and a decent link) between the Sites. It would also be worth replicating them to servers close to all users. Otherwise I am not aware of any problems though it may take OST users a little longer to replicate the first time round. -Original Message- From: Scott Perley-TM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 March 2002 06:44 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How Organizational Forms Work? I haven't had any problem with this. We have about 80 forms used from our Org Forms library. There are about another 20-30 used strictly from public folders. Scott Perley TELUS Mobility [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Microsoft Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: How Organizational Forms Work? Our environment consists of Exchange 5.5/SP4 servers with OL2000 and we have approximately 25,000 users. We currently do not allow forms to be published to the Organizational Forms Library because of a fear of the impact it will have on Outlook response time if there are too many forms. Is this a legitimate fear? I can not find any Microsoft Documentation that states why we shouldn't publish forms to the Organizational Forms Library. And currently, this policy is stifling Outlook/Exchange development projects. Can anyone provide me with some advice on this issue? Thanks in advance. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How Organizational Forms Work?
A buyout ago (The Associates) we had a chucklehead from the home office come onto my server and install a bunch of his crappy forms. If you loaded one of his forms (any one) onto your machine, you would instantly lose the ability to send mail, as the send button is now gone from the standard e-mail form. Clearing forms cache does not fix it. Removing and reinstalling Outlook does not fix it. Reimaging the entire hard drive fixes it. YMMV. -Original Message- From: Microsoft Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: How Organizational Forms Work? Our environment consists of Exchange 5.5/SP4 servers with OL2000 and we have approximately 25,000 users. We currently do not allow forms to be published to the Organizational Forms Library because of a fear of the impact it will have on Outlook response time if there are too many forms. Is this a legitimate fear? I can not find any Microsoft Documentation that states why we shouldn't publish forms to the Organizational Forms Library. And currently, this policy is stifling Outlook/Exchange development projects. Can anyone provide me with some advice on this issue? Thanks in advance. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How Organizational Forms Work?
Did you try to delete outcmd.dat? It holds all menu/toolbar customization stuff. Search your HD for it. IMHO it'll not get overwritten by a reinstall since it belongs to user data (as the signature etc). On my Win.XP machine it is at driveletter:\Documents and Settings\user\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook. YMMV Siegfried / -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 6:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How Organizational Forms Work? A buyout ago (The Associates) we had a chucklehead from the home office come onto my server and install a bunch of his crappy forms. If you loaded one of his forms (any one) onto your machine, you would instantly lose the ability to send mail, as the send button is now gone from the standard e-mail form. Clearing forms cache does not fix it. Removing and reinstalling Outlook does not fix it. Reimaging the entire hard drive fixes it. YMMV. -Original Message- From: Microsoft Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: How Organizational Forms Work? Our environment consists of Exchange 5.5/SP4 servers with OL2000 and we have approximately 25,000 users. We currently do not allow forms to be published to the Organizational Forms Library because of a fear of the impact it will have on Outlook response time if there are too many forms. Is this a legitimate fear? I can not find any Microsoft Documentation that states why we shouldn't publish forms to the Organizational Forms Library. And currently, this policy is stifling Outlook/Exchange development projects. Can anyone provide me with some advice on this issue? Thanks in advance. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How Organizational Forms Work?
Siegfried!! You rock!! Now I don't have to rebuild my test box. The one financial guy who had to get rebuilt deserved it. And much more. I swear I looked for this issue on Slipstick but couldn't find anything that day. -Original Message- From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 1:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How Organizational Forms Work? Did you try to delete outcmd.dat? It holds all menu/toolbar customization stuff. Search your HD for it. IMHO it'll not get overwritten by a reinstall since it belongs to user data (as the signature etc). On my Win.XP machine it is at driveletter:\Documents and Settings\user\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook. YMMV Siegfried / -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 6:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How Organizational Forms Work? A buyout ago (The Associates) we had a chucklehead from the home office come onto my server and install a bunch of his crappy forms. If you loaded one of his forms (any one) onto your machine, you would instantly lose the ability to send mail, as the send button is now gone from the standard e-mail form. Clearing forms cache does not fix it. Removing and reinstalling Outlook does not fix it. Reimaging the entire hard drive fixes it. YMMV. -Original Message- From: Microsoft Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: How Organizational Forms Work? Our environment consists of Exchange 5.5/SP4 servers with OL2000 and we have approximately 25,000 users. We currently do not allow forms to be published to the Organizational Forms Library because of a fear of the impact it will have on Outlook response time if there are too many forms. Is this a legitimate fear? I can not find any Microsoft Documentation that states why we shouldn't publish forms to the Organizational Forms Library. And currently, this policy is stifling Outlook/Exchange development projects. Can anyone provide me with some advice on this issue? Thanks in advance. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How Organizational Forms Work?
Make sure to pay me a Frozen Strawberry Margarita next time we'll see us :-)) Maybe at MEC this year... Each time I messed up some of my menus when testing new add-ins (usually my own) I have to delete it ;-) -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 11:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How Organizational Forms Work? Siegfried!! You rock!! Now I don't have to rebuild my test box. The one financial guy who had to get rebuilt deserved it. And much more. I swear I looked for this issue on Slipstick but couldn't find anything that day. -Original Message- From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 1:43 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How Organizational Forms Work? Did you try to delete outcmd.dat? It holds all menu/toolbar customization stuff. Search your HD for it. IMHO it'll not get overwritten by a reinstall since it belongs to user data (as the signature etc). On my Win.XP machine it is at driveletter:\Documents and Settings\user\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook. YMMV Siegfried / -Original Message- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 6:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How Organizational Forms Work? A buyout ago (The Associates) we had a chucklehead from the home office come onto my server and install a bunch of his crappy forms. If you loaded one of his forms (any one) onto your machine, you would instantly lose the ability to send mail, as the send button is now gone from the standard e-mail form. Clearing forms cache does not fix it. Removing and reinstalling Outlook does not fix it. Reimaging the entire hard drive fixes it. YMMV. -Original Message- From: Microsoft Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: How Organizational Forms Work? Our environment consists of Exchange 5.5/SP4 servers with OL2000 and we have approximately 25,000 users. We currently do not allow forms to be published to the Organizational Forms Library because of a fear of the impact it will have on Outlook response time if there are too many forms. Is this a legitimate fear? I can not find any Microsoft Documentation that states why we shouldn't publish forms to the Organizational Forms Library. And currently, this policy is stifling Outlook/Exchange development projects. Can anyone provide me with some advice on this issue? Thanks in advance. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How Organizational Forms Work?
I haven't had any problem with this. We have about 80 forms used from our Org Forms library. There are about another 20-30 used strictly from public folders. Scott Perley TELUS Mobility [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Microsoft Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: How Organizational Forms Work? Our environment consists of Exchange 5.5/SP4 servers with OL2000 and we have approximately 25,000 users. We currently do not allow forms to be published to the Organizational Forms Library because of a fear of the impact it will have on Outlook response time if there are too many forms. Is this a legitimate fear? I can not find any Microsoft Documentation that states why we shouldn't publish forms to the Organizational Forms Library. And currently, this policy is stifling Outlook/Exchange development projects. Can anyone provide me with some advice on this issue? Thanks in advance. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How Organizational Forms Work?
Also remember to replicate the folder from it's primary locations and also depending on how your security is laid out, setting permissions to at least review if you have cross domain issues. -Original Message- From: Scott Perley-TM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 23:44 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: How Organizational Forms Work? I haven't had any problem with this. We have about 80 forms used from our Org Forms library. There are about another 20-30 used strictly from public folders. Scott Perley TELUS Mobility [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Microsoft Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: How Organizational Forms Work? Our environment consists of Exchange 5.5/SP4 servers with OL2000 and we have approximately 25,000 users. We currently do not allow forms to be published to the Organizational Forms Library because of a fear of the impact it will have on Outlook response time if there are too many forms. Is this a legitimate fear? I can not find any Microsoft Documentation that states why we shouldn't publish forms to the Organizational Forms Library. And currently, this policy is stifling Outlook/Exchange development projects. Can anyone provide me with some advice on this issue? Thanks in advance. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
