Re: move mailbox - strip off group permissions?
Maybe they were logged in at the time you moved them From: Fyodorov, Andrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: move mailbox - strip off group permissions? Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:00:47 -0400 I am seeing some weird stuff. We moved a bunch of mailboxes from one Exchange 2000 server to another Exchange 2000 server (within the same org, within the same Admin group). All of a sudden we are getting calls that users can't access some common mailboxes. These users are members of special groups that were given full mailbox access permission to those common mailboxes. For some reason these group permissions were stripped off during the mailbox move. I could never imagine something like this. How is it possible? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox
Hi bud, Have a look at what exmerge can do for you. k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henderson Richard Sent: 16 July 2003 09:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move Mailbox Hi List, Is there a command line option to move mailbox's between 5.5 E2K stores? Something to batch move groups of users. Many thanks Richard *** This correspondence is confidential and is solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, copy, distribute or retain this message or any part of it. If you are not the intended recipient please delete this correspondence from your system and notify the sender immediately. No warranty is given that this correspondence is free from any virus. In keeping with good computer practice, you should ensure that it is actually virus free. E-mail messages may be subject to delays, non-delivery and unauthorised alterations therefore, information expressed in this message is not given or endorsed by Sx3 unless otherwise notified by our duly authorised representative independent of this message. Sx3 is a trading name of Service and Systems Solutions Limited, a limited company registered in Northern Ireland under number NI 32979 whose registered office is at 120 Malone Road, Belfast, BT9 5HT. *** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox
Thanks, Exmerge is an option which I have used in the past, thought there might be other options. -Original Message- From: knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2003 10:22 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Hi bud, Have a look at what exmerge can do for you. k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henderson Richard Sent: 16 July 2003 09:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move Mailbox Hi List, Is there a command line option to move mailbox's between 5.5 E2K stores? Something to batch move groups of users. Many thanks Richard *** This correspondence is confidential and is solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, copy, distribute or retain this message or any part of it. If you are not the intended recipient please delete this correspondence from your system and notify the sender immediately. No warranty is given that this correspondence is free from any virus. In keeping with good computer practice, you should ensure that it is actually virus free. E-mail messages may be subject to delays, non-delivery and unauthorised alterations therefore, information expressed in this message is not given or endorsed by Sx3 unless otherwise notified by our duly authorised representative independent of this message. Sx3 is a trading name of Service and Systems Solutions Limited, a limited company registered in Northern Ireland under number NI 32979 whose registered office is at 120 Malone Road, Belfast, BT9 5HT. *** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** This correspondence is confidential and is solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, copy, distribute or retain this message or any part of it. If you are not the intended recipient please delete this correspondence from your system and notify the sender immediately. No warranty is given that this correspondence is free from any virus. In keeping with good computer practice, you should ensure that it is actually virus free. E-mail messages may be subject to delays, non-delivery and unauthorised alterations therefore, information expressed in this message is not given or endorsed by Sx3 unless otherwise notified by our duly authorised representative independent of this message. Sx3 is a trading name of Service and Systems Solutions Limited, a limited company registered in Northern Ireland under number NI 32979 whose registered office is at 120 Malone Road, Belfast, BT9 5HT. *** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox
I have some stuff we've written in house that uses a C++ example that MS published... I've only used it with E2K, but you're welcome to take a look at it and give it a try between E5.5 and E2K. Just shoot me an e-mail if you want it. jeff e. -Original Message- From: Henderson Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 4:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Thanks, Exmerge is an option which I have used in the past, thought there might be other options. -Original Message- From: knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 July 2003 10:22 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Hi bud, Have a look at what exmerge can do for you. k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henderson Richard Sent: 16 July 2003 09:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move Mailbox Hi List, Is there a command line option to move mailbox's between 5.5 E2K stores? Something to batch move groups of users. Many thanks Richard *** This correspondence is confidential and is solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, copy, distribute or retain this message or any part of it. If you are not the intended recipient please delete this correspondence from your system and notify the sender immediately. No warranty is given that this correspondence is free from any virus. In keeping with good computer practice, you should ensure that it is actually virus free. E-mail messages may be subject to delays, non-delivery and unauthorised alterations therefore, information expressed in this message is not given or endorsed by Sx3 unless otherwise notified by our duly authorised representative independent of this message. Sx3 is a trading name of Service and Systems Solutions Limited, a limited company registered in Northern Ireland under number NI 32979 whose registered office is at 120 Malone Road, Belfast, BT9 5HT. *** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** This correspondence is confidential and is solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, copy, distribute or retain this message or any part of it. If you are not the intended recipient please delete this correspondence from your system and notify the sender immediately. No warranty is given that this correspondence is free from any virus. In keeping with good computer practice, you should ensure that it is actually virus free. E-mail messages may be subject to delays, non-delivery and unauthorised alterations therefore, information expressed in this message is not given or endorsed by Sx3 unless otherwise notified by our duly authorised representative independent of this message. Sx3 is a trading name of Service and Systems Solutions Limited, a limited company registered in Northern Ireland under number NI 32979 whose registered office is at 120 Malone Road, Belfast, BT9 5HT. *** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox 5.5
There are a ton of events that are attributed to various Move Mailbox whatnots.. but that doesn't seem to be what you are asking. But I believe the answer to your question is No, not log file specific to Move Mailbox exists. In any case, I'm curious what you hope to find were such a log to exist. I gather by old emails, you mean you need to restore messages that were deleted 'prior' to moving the mailbox. Did you say you had the tapes handy? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 8:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move Mailbox 5.5 If you move a mailbox using the tool in Exchange 5.5, is there a log associated with the move. Reason for the question is some mailboxes were moved and we need to restore old emails from the user's orginal home server. The original server has been wiped clean and taken offline. I am hoping that the customer used the new home server to do the move. Haven't looked yet but is there a log showing the move. If not is there any other ideas on this. If not we have to build all of the servers and do restore to look and see. Ugh. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move mailbox log data
Thanks for the clarification over your first post. ..same answer. -Original Message- From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 9:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move mailbox log data When you use Move Mailbox on Exchange 5.5, does anybody know if the event log shows a record of that or does it write it to a log somewhere. If so does the information reside on the server where Move Mailbox was run or is it on both servers? Reason is customer moved mailboxes to new server. They then wiped clean old servers. They now need to do a restore from where the old mailboxes originally resided. Without building each old server and restoring the databases, is there a way to find the original home server without doing a rebuild? Currently do not have a setup to test this. Any helpful ideas? Tony Hlabse Exchange Administrator 574-237-5726 Robert Bosch Corporation _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move mailbox log data
That's what I thought. This is going to be a small nightmare. Build each old email server, do a restore and hunt for the old mailboxes. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move mailbox log data Thanks for the clarification over your first post. ..same answer. -Original Message- From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 9:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move mailbox log data When you use Move Mailbox on Exchange 5.5, does anybody know if the event log shows a record of that or does it write it to a log somewhere. If so does the information reside on the server where Move Mailbox was run or is it on both servers? Reason is customer moved mailboxes to new server. They then wiped clean old servers. They now need to do a restore from where the old mailboxes originally resided. Without building each old server and restoring the databases, is there a way to find the original home server without doing a rebuild? Currently do not have a setup to test this. Any helpful ideas? Tony Hlabse Exchange Administrator 574-237-5726 Robert Bosch Corporation _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move mailbox log data
dude.. hardly a nightmare.. you are about to restore an exchsrvr. process-wise, it's not difficult--just time consuming. in any case, it is a sorely underdeveloped skill common among all of us. however, you are doing the deed under duress. now, should you be unsuccessful restoring the box, well maybe then the nightmare starts. ..your confidence a little shaky that ArcServe was backing up your stores properly? -Original Message- From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move mailbox log data That's what I thought. This is going to be a small nightmare. Build each old email server, do a restore and hunt for the old mailboxes. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move mailbox log data Thanks for the clarification over your first post. ..same answer. -Original Message- From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 9:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move mailbox log data When you use Move Mailbox on Exchange 5.5, does anybody know if the event log shows a record of that or does it write it to a log somewhere. If so does the information reside on the server where Move Mailbox was run or is it on both servers? Reason is customer moved mailboxes to new server. They then wiped clean old servers. They now need to do a restore from where the old mailboxes originally resided. Without building each old server and restoring the databases, is there a way to find the original home server without doing a rebuild? Currently do not have a setup to test this. Any helpful ideas? Tony Hlabse Exchange Administrator 574-237-5726 Robert Bosch Corporation _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move mailbox log data
I am doing this for a customer. I have plenty of restores. Just I always knew which servers needed restoring. Anyhow on the bright side they used Backup Exec and Tivoli more recently. So far so good but boy what a boring/tedious thing to do. One thing for sure I will know disaster recovery and restores backwards and sideways after doing approx. a dozen or so servers over a 2 year period. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 12:32 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move mailbox log data dude.. hardly a nightmare.. you are about to restore an exchsrvr. process-wise, it's not difficult--just time consuming. in any case, it is a sorely underdeveloped skill common among all of us. however, you are doing the deed under duress. now, should you be unsuccessful restoring the box, well maybe then the nightmare starts. ..your confidence a little shaky that ArcServe was backing up your stores properly? -Original Message- From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move mailbox log data That's what I thought. This is going to be a small nightmare. Build each old email server, do a restore and hunt for the old mailboxes. -Original Message- From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move mailbox log data Thanks for the clarification over your first post. ..same answer. -Original Message- From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 9:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move mailbox log data When you use Move Mailbox on Exchange 5.5, does anybody know if the event log shows a record of that or does it write it to a log somewhere. If so does the information reside on the server where Move Mailbox was run or is it on both servers? Reason is customer moved mailboxes to new server. They then wiped clean old servers. They now need to do a restore from where the old mailboxes originally resided. Without building each old server and restoring the databases, is there a way to find the original home server without doing a rebuild? Currently do not have a setup to test this. Any helpful ideas? Tony Hlabse Exchange Administrator 574-237-5726 Robert Bosch Corporation _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox 5.5 - 2K
The looping NDRs go away after 15-30 minutes, depending on the mailbox. I guess it's just to be expected (it kinda makes sense), though I didn't see anything relevant in the KB. The other errors happened when I tried moving *my* mailbox, and went on for about an hour before I moved the mailbox back to 5.5. -Original Message- From: Jon Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 1:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move Mailbox 5.5 - 2K 5.5 SP4 on NTSP6a, E2K SP2 on W2K AS SP2. Attempts to move mailboxes from 5.5 to E2K appear to be successful, but 5.5 users get NDRs when they attempt to send mail to the newly-moved mailboxes. The NDRs cite either a communications failure or looping. New mailboxes on the E2K box are fine--everyone can send mail back and forth. The E2K server being moved to is on a cluster, but we have another E2K server set up for SRS. Am I supposed to move mailboxes to the SRS server first, and from there to the cluster? Any other thoughts? These three messages appeared in the 5.5 server's event log when I tried to send mail to one mailbox: (source MSExchangeMTA, category X.400 Service; ID 201): A loop has been detected in the message C=US;A=attmail;P=jennison;L=DUMBO-020703163848Z-9746 being transferred in. A non-delivery report was generated with reason code unable-to-transfer and diagnostic code loop-detected. [MTA XFER-IN 11 104] (14) (source MSExchangeMTA, category X.400 Service; ID 201): A loop has been detected in the message C=US;A=attmail;P=jennison;L=DUMBO-020703163848Z-9746 being transferred in. A non-delivery report was generated with reason code unable-to-transfer and diagnostic code loop-detected. [MTA XFER-IN 11 104] (14) (source MSExchangeMTA, category X.400 Service; ID 290): A non-delivery report (reason code unable-to-transfer and diagnostic code loop-detected) is being generated for message C=US;A=attmail;P=jennison;L=DUMBO-020703163848Z-9746. It was originally destined for DN:/o=JENNISON/ou=JENNISON/cn=RECIPIENTS/cn=CRExec§C=US;A=attmail;P=jennison ;S=Executive;G=ConfRoom; (recipient number 1), and was to be redirected to . [MTA DISP:ROUTER 11 136] (12) These three events appeared on the 5.5 server when I tried to send mail to another mailbox: (source MSExchangeISPrivate, category Transport Delivering; ID 2025): The delivery of a message failed due to error 80040111. A non-delivery report is being sent to the message's originator. (80040111 is Cdo_E_LOGON_FAILED) (source MSExchangeMTA, category X.400 Service; ID 270): A permanent error has occurred with Entity /O=JENNISON/OU=JENNISON/CN=CONFIGURATION/CN=SERVERS/CN=DUMBO/CN=MICROSOFT PRIVATE MDB. Entity is a Message Object is a Normal Priority Message. Object: 06C3. Message ID: C=us;A=attmail;P=jennison;L=DUMBO02070316063CL5YDN0 Content length: 3928, External Trace information (first 100 bytes) = 30806380618013025553628013076174746D61696C13086A656E6E69736F6E31 80800D3032303730333136303630375A82010083020600, PDU dump reference 33 [MTA SUBMIT 14 74] (14) (source MSExchangeMTA, category X.400 Service; ID 290): A non-delivery report (reason code transfer-failure and diagnostic code Omit any diagnostic code) is being generated for message C=us;A=attmail;P=jennison;L=DUMBO02070316063CL5YDN0. It was originally destined for DN:/o=JENNISON/ou=JENNISON/cn=RECIPIENTS/cn=JHill§ (recipient number 1), and was to be redirected to . [MTA DISP:RESULT 18 136] (12) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox problem
Hi, have you tried leaving it for a while? I have the same thing here where the admin program becomes not responding but it is still working and if I leave it, it finishes correctly. Happens every time. HTH Rachel -- From: Tony McCarthy[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: Exchange Discussions Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 11:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move Mailbox problem Hi Everyone, I have a new Exchange 5.5 server which I want to promote to the first site server. It's all ready to go, so this morning I thought I'd start moving mailboxes with the Move Mailbox tool. For some reason the tool freezes after it completes about 32% of the operation. I have tried this on two mailboxes with the same result. They're not big mailboxes and are both under 40 MB each. Any ideas re this? Also, is there another tool I could use to move mailboxes? The new server is running Win2K Server(SP2) and all the latest patches. Regards Tony _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox problem
Are the servers close network-wise? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony McCarthy Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 3:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move Mailbox problem Hi Everyone, I have a new Exchange 5.5 server which I want to promote to the first site server. It's all ready to go, so this morning I thought I'd start moving mailboxes with the Move Mailbox tool. For some reason the tool freezes after it completes about 32% of the operation. I have tried this on two mailboxes with the same result. They're not big mailboxes and are both under 40 MB each. Any ideas re this? Also, is there another tool I could use to move mailboxes? The new server is running Win2K Server(SP2) and all the latest patches. Regards Tony _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: move mailbox routine
Be patient... at least when I've experienced this, the failed mailbox on the e2k server went away after a few minutes. -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: move mailbox routine When I move a mailbox to e2k from 5.5, it creates the mailbox on the new server.. when a failure occurs you end up with 2 mailbox's... How can you remove the new mailbox from e2k server? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: move mailbox routine
Patient - been only 18 hrs. -Original Message- From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: move mailbox routine Be patient... at least when I've experienced this, the failed mailbox on the e2k server went away after a few minutes. -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: move mailbox routine When I move a mailbox to e2k from 5.5, it creates the mailbox on the new server.. when a failure occurs you end up with 2 mailbox's... How can you remove the new mailbox from e2k server? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: move mailbox routine
Go purge the store object for the failed move -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: move mailbox routine Patient - been only 18 hrs. -Original Message- From: Edgington, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: move mailbox routine Be patient... at least when I've experienced this, the failed mailbox on the e2k server went away after a few minutes. -Original Message- From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: move mailbox routine When I move a mailbox to e2k from 5.5, it creates the mailbox on the new server.. when a failure occurs you end up with 2 mailbox's... How can you remove the new mailbox from e2k server? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] == NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: move mailbox routine
In Exchange 5.5, you'd move the mailbox back and you'd get an error message but the bad mailbox would be deleted. Don't know if that'd work on an Exchange 5.5 to 2000 move because I've not yet had that kind of failure. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Pennell, Ronald B. Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: move mailbox routine When I move a mailbox to e2k from 5.5, it creates the mailbox on the new server.. when a failure occurs you end up with 2 mailbox's... How can you remove the new mailbox from e2k server? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: move mailbox 22 GB priv.edb, how long ?
Take a simple like 2MB excel file transfer from one server to the other. Time it. Multiply by 11, then add in some extra I like 20% you should have about the right time then bill -Original Message- From: Jean-Francois Bourdeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: move mailbox 22 GB priv.edb, how long ? DO you have any ideas how long it take to move all mailbox (move Mailbox method) from an ex 5.5 server to an ex 2000 server on a Switcher network ? Any approximative number ? JF _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: move mailbox 22 GB priv.edb, how long ?
Shouldn't it be 11,000? Going from 2Meg to 22Gig. Or did you mean a 2Gig file? Bottom line though, is it depends. Machine, Network, time of day, etc all will effect the speed. As Bill suggested try a smaller file and do the math to get an estimate. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: move mailbox 22 GB priv.edb, how long ? Take a simple like 2MB excel file transfer from one server to the other. Time it. Multiply by 11, then add in some extra I like 20% you should have about the right time then bill -Original Message- From: Jean-Francois Bourdeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: move mailbox 22 GB priv.edb, how long ? DO you have any ideas how long it take to move all mailbox (move Mailbox method) from an ex 5.5 server to an ex 2000 server on a Switcher network ? Any approximative number ? JF _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: move mailbox 22 GB priv.edb, how long ?
Ok..sure make fun of my mathNext it'll be my typing then my Spelling... Wait that's ok I think Im from the era of New Math. -Original Message- From: Sanborn, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 1:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: move mailbox 22 GB priv.edb, how long ? Shouldn't it be 11,000? Going from 2Meg to 22Gig. Or did you mean a 2Gig file? Bottom line though, is it depends. Machine, Network, time of day, etc all will effect the speed. As Bill suggested try a smaller file and do the math to get an estimate. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: move mailbox 22 GB priv.edb, how long ? Take a simple like 2MB excel file transfer from one server to the other. Time it. Multiply by 11, then add in some extra I like 20% you should have about the right time then bill -Original Message- From: Jean-Francois Bourdeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: move mailbox 22 GB priv.edb, how long ? DO you have any ideas how long it take to move all mailbox (move Mailbox method) from an ex 5.5 server to an ex 2000 server on a Switcher network ? Any approximative number ? JF _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: move mailbox 22 GB priv.edb, how long ?
If you're in Florida, there's no worries ... 23% is a passing grade. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: move mailbox 22 GB priv.edb, how long ? Ok..sure make fun of my mathNext it'll be my typing then my Spelling... Wait that's ok I think Im from the era of New Math. -Original Message- From: Sanborn, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 1:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: move mailbox 22 GB priv.edb, how long ? Shouldn't it be 11,000? Going from 2Meg to 22Gig. Or did you mean a 2Gig file? Bottom line though, is it depends. Machine, Network, time of day, etc all will effect the speed. As Bill suggested try a smaller file and do the math to get an estimate. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: move mailbox 22 GB priv.edb, how long ? Take a simple like 2MB excel file transfer from one server to the other. Time it. Multiply by 11, then add in some extra I like 20% you should have about the right time then bill -Original Message- From: Jean-Francois Bourdeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: move mailbox 22 GB priv.edb, how long ? DO you have any ideas how long it take to move all mailbox (move Mailbox method) from an ex 5.5 server to an ex 2000 server on a Switcher network ? Any approximative number ? JF _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: move mailbox 22 GB priv.edb, how long ?
NE I hang my head in shame... BSEE does no good anymore...etc... Though I do remember the time it took me 6 pages of higher math to prove 3=4 ah..diff eq's -Original Message- From: Sanborn, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 3:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: move mailbox 22 GB priv.edb, how long ? If you're in Florida, there's no worries ... 23% is a passing grade. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: move mailbox 22 GB priv.edb, how long ? Ok..sure make fun of my mathNext it'll be my typing then my Spelling... Wait that's ok I think Im from the era of New Math. -Original Message- From: Sanborn, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 1:45 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: move mailbox 22 GB priv.edb, how long ? Shouldn't it be 11,000? Going from 2Meg to 22Gig. Or did you mean a 2Gig file? Bottom line though, is it depends. Machine, Network, time of day, etc all will effect the speed. As Bill suggested try a smaller file and do the math to get an estimate. -Original Message- From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:31 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: move mailbox 22 GB priv.edb, how long ? Take a simple like 2MB excel file transfer from one server to the other. Time it. Multiply by 11, then add in some extra I like 20% you should have about the right time then bill -Original Message- From: Jean-Francois Bourdeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 10:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: move mailbox 22 GB priv.edb, how long ? DO you have any ideas how long it take to move all mailbox (move Mailbox method) from an ex 5.5 server to an ex 2000 server on a Switcher network ? Any approximative number ? JF _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox
They will disconnected until they close out of Outlook and re-open. Or so the experience has been here when I had to do that. In a few cases the user never even knew it happened if they were away from their desk long enough. Scott -Original Message- From: Chris Haaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move Mailbox Does anyone know the impact of moving a user's mailbox while they hae it open in Outlook? I am sure it is not preferred, but we have one user we cannot get ahold of . . . It is the province of knowledge to speak, and it is the privilege of wisdom to listen. Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. (1809-94); U.S. writer, physician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox
His client will tell him his mail box is not available until it is all moved. Then he will be fine. --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond What are you on about mate? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Haaker Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move Mailbox Does anyone know the impact of moving a user's mailbox while they hae it open in Outlook? I am sure it is not preferred, but we have one user we cannot get ahold of . . . It is the province of knowledge to speak, and it is the privilege of wisdom to listen. Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. (1809-94); U.S. writer, physician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox
When moving a mailbox. Could you define why you would move a mailbox? Like from one container to another? If you move from on container to another would you need to rebuild the profile or add any type of SMTP address to link the old mail to the new mailbox? Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems eMAIL Administrator Alverno Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox His client will tell him his mail box is not available until it is all moved. Then he will be fine. --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond What are you on about mate? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Haaker Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move Mailbox Does anyone know the impact of moving a user's mailbox while they hae it open in Outlook? I am sure it is not preferred, but we have one user we cannot get ahold of . . . It is the province of knowledge to speak, and it is the privilege of wisdom to listen. Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. (1809-94); U.S. writer, physician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox
He's talking about moving the mailbox between servers. T. -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox When moving a mailbox. Could you define why you would move a mailbox? Like from one container to another? If you move from on container to another would you need to rebuild the profile or add any type of SMTP address to link the old mail to the new mailbox? Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems eMAIL Administrator Alverno Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox His client will tell him his mail box is not available until it is all moved. Then he will be fine. --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond What are you on about mate? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Haaker Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move Mailbox Does anyone know the impact of moving a user's mailbox while they hae it open in Outlook? I am sure it is not preferred, but we have one user we cannot get ahold of . . . It is the province of knowledge to speak, and it is the privilege of wisdom to listen. Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. (1809-94); U.S. writer, physician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox
Cant move in between containers. Ed's MSM is a prime example of when you would move a mailbox. -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:19 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox When moving a mailbox. Could you define why you would move a mailbox? Like from one container to another? If you move from on container to another would you need to rebuild the profile or add any type of SMTP address to link the old mail to the new mailbox? Regards, Mike Mitchell Systems eMAIL Administrator Alverno Information Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (317) 532-7800 ext. 6211 -Original Message- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox His client will tell him his mail box is not available until it is all moved. Then he will be fine. --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond What are you on about mate? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Haaker Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move Mailbox Does anyone know the impact of moving a user's mailbox while they hae it open in Outlook? I am sure it is not preferred, but we have one user we cannot get ahold of . . . It is the province of knowledge to speak, and it is the privilege of wisdom to listen. Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. (1809-94); U.S. writer, physician. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox via the MMC (AD Users and computers) console
This would be easy enough test out. -Original Message- From: Sabo, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 2:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move Mailbox via the MMC (AD Users and computers) console We are going to start migrating users to our new equipment starting Apr. 8th. I was just wondering if the Move mailbox via the MMC is pretty reilable with getting the mailbox from one server to another. This is a native Exchange 2000 environment with an ATM Backbone. All servers within the exchange site are at W2K SP2 and E2k SP2. If the user is logged on to the mailbox at the time of the move with the MMC not be able to move the mailbox? Does this copy everything includes server side rules? Thanks, Eric Sabo NT Administrator Computing Services Center California University of Pennsylvania _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ?
OK users should not be connected during move mailbox - no problem. But mail can't be delivered ? Let's see, this means a) every connector on every exchange server must be down, no user anywhere must be connected, or b) every connector on the source and destination server must be down, they must not be able to communicate with any other exchange server in the same org/site, but they still must be able to communicate with a domain controller. Oh, no user logged in those two servers obviously. Seems not exactly an easy task if you don't want to risk loosing mail during a move mailbox... is there any way to do this ? Every network has moments when there are few users and external mail is trickling in slowly, but still not 100% sure. For the drive space issue... I was still thinking, what if on a partition is say, pub.edb only ? BTW I'm just copying the exchange resource kit and service pack on that partition :) Heiko -- -- PREVINET S.p.A.[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Via Ferretto, 1ph x39-041-5907073 -- I-31021 Mogliano V.to (TV) fax x39-041-5907087 -- ITALY -Original Message- From: Jim Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 7:01 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ? Users shouldn't be connected to the server while their mailboxes are being moved, nor can mailboxes accept mail while they are being moved (assuming your using the mailbox tool). 1 GB question - done this myself and works great ... freeing up a few hundred MB does get the store back up quickly, although I've never see this on a best practices list. Quicker than moving the logs to another drive. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Herold Heiko Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 6:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move mailbox = can't reveive ? EX4.4 sp4 say, server Gateway (IMC connector only), server A and server B (mailboxes). During move mailbox from A to B arrived a incoming mail (smtp to Gateway) for the mailbox on the move. server A sent back a reply Your message ... did not reach the following recipient(s): Display name on Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:33:39 +0100 Unable to deliver the message due to a communications failure The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=us;a= ;p=... ;l=Gateway020201281117D5DWCYXN MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:site:server A Is this normal ? During move mailbox incoming external mail is rejected ? I could not find any reference to this in technet (well, searched only for a couple of minutes to be honest, found nothing related). Similary, I was looking exactly when a services will shut down for no more space available (now you know why I'm moving mailboxes :), the only thing I found was several references (EX 5.5 Server Guide, Administering and Maintaining, the Disaster Recovery White paper and similar) to res1.log and res2.log. Those are 5MB each and are used as last resort when the disk is full - does this mean services shut down really at the last moment (new page can't be allocated) ? Somehow I always thought it would shutdown with some % of disk space still available. If the services do shutdown when the store partition is really full could it be considered a good practice creating a 1GB (or something) file, which can be deleted in order to create space as last resort... say, to restart services and move somewhere else some mailboxes or public folders ? Then decide if to spank the users who eat space like peanuts or the managers who want won't allow space limits, in order to use the infinite resources approach for supposedly faster development but won't fund the same infinite (or at least sufficent) approach to server space ? Heiko -- -- PREVINET S.p.A.[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Via Ferretto, 1ph x39-041-5907073 -- I-31021 Mogliano V.to (TV) fax x39-041-5907087 -- ITALY _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ?
OK users should not be connected during move mailbox - no problem. But mail can't be delivered ? Let's see, this means a) every connector on every exchange server must be down, no user anywhere must be connected, or b) every connector on the source and destination server must be down, they must not be able to communicate with any other exchange server in the same org/site, but they still must be able to communicate with a domain controller. Oh, no user logged in those two servers obviously. Seems not exactly an easy task if you don't want to risk loosing mail during a move mailbox... is there any way to do this ? Every network has moments when there are few users and external mail is trickling in slowly, but still not 100% sure. Theoretically I suppose you could create an extra mailbox in your Exchange server called Saved Mail then redirect/alias your firewall so that all mail for any user on your system went direct to this account. Then move the mailboxes across, reset the firewall back to it's original state, then log on to the Saved Mail mailbox, ship out the mail there to the correct users. Finally delete the Saved Mail account. Seems like an awful lot of work for very little effect IMHO. I'd be far more inclined to advertise the process as essential maintenance, explain the consequences of not doing the task and the mail blackout effect, and then perform the task on a Sunday afternoon. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ?
My average mailbox move takes around 5 minutes. Actual risk of mail being NDR'd is a number significantly close to zero (e.g. I moved 1100 users from one server to another one evening and received 0 complaints about bounced or missing mail). Mail which is sent during that time is bounced, not lost, so the sender can simply try and resend the message... not like the occasional odd NDR doesn't happen anyway. What's the actual problem we're trying to solve here or is this just an academic exercise? -Original Message- From: Herold Heiko To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 1/29/2002 6:01 AM Subject: RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ? OK users should not be connected during move mailbox - no problem. But mail can't be delivered ? Let's see, this means a) every connector on every exchange server must be down, no user anywhere must be connected, or b) every connector on the source and destination server must be down, they must not be able to communicate with any other exchange server in the same org/site, but they still must be able to communicate with a domain controller. Oh, no user logged in those two servers obviously. Seems not exactly an easy task if you don't want to risk loosing mail during a move mailbox... is there any way to do this ? Every network has moments when there are few users and external mail is trickling in slowly, but still not 100% sure. For the drive space issue... I was still thinking, what if on a partition is say, pub.edb only ? BTW I'm just copying the exchange resource kit and service pack on that partition :) Heiko _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ?
Well, I did mov some mailboxes during prime time the other day (for space reason): phone user with top #1 mailbox please close outlook until notice, move mailbox, give clearance for outlook. After moving around ~ 10 users (~7GB, sigh) I got notice from a couple of those for bounced and resent mail. So I was wondering if there is a better solution. As it sems the low-traffic time with crossed fingers way seems to be the only better one, possibly combined with the delay external mail prior to entering the exchange system. As a matter of fact I need to take a look again at the configuration of our mail gateways (sendmail) - it should be possible to match the relevant addresses before every other rule, and send it to an empty IP address (without anything answering on that address) so the mail would just sit in the queue. Then redirect it to a real mail gateway later, after completition of the move. Heiko -- -- PREVINET S.p.A.[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Via Ferretto, 1ph x39-041-5907073 -- I-31021 Mogliano V.to (TV) fax x39-041-5907087 -- ITALY -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 2:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ? My average mailbox move takes around 5 minutes. Actual risk of mail being NDR'd is a number significantly close to zero (e.g. I moved 1100 users from one server to another one evening and received 0 complaints about bounced or missing mail). Mail which is sent during that time is bounced, not lost, so the sender can simply try and resend the message... not like the occasional odd NDR doesn't happen anyway. What's the actual problem we're trying to solve here or is this just an academic exercise? -Original Message- From: Herold Heiko To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 1/29/2002 6:01 AM Subject: RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ? OK users should not be connected during move mailbox - no problem. But mail can't be delivered ? Let's see, this means a) every connector on every exchange server must be down, no user anywhere must be connected, or b) every connector on the source and destination server must be down, they must not be able to communicate with any other exchange server in the same org/site, but they still must be able to communicate with a domain controller. Oh, no user logged in those two servers obviously. Seems not exactly an easy task if you don't want to risk loosing mail during a move mailbox... is there any way to do this ? Every network has moments when there are few users and external mail is trickling in slowly, but still not 100% sure. For the drive space issue... I was still thinking, what if on a partition is say, pub.edb only ? BTW I'm just copying the exchange resource kit and service pack on that partition :) Heiko _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ?
Me thinks you are overthinking this. I agree with Iron Chef Messaging Scharff, I've done a number of times overnight and across WAN links w/o issue. -Original Message- From: Herold Heiko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ? Well, I did mov some mailboxes during prime time the other day (for space reason): phone user with top #1 mailbox please close outlook until notice, move mailbox, give clearance for outlook. After moving around ~ 10 users (~7GB, sigh) I got notice from a couple of those for bounced and resent mail. So I was wondering if there is a better solution. As it sems the low-traffic time with crossed fingers way seems to be the only better one, possibly combined with the delay external mail prior to entering the exchange system. As a matter of fact I need to take a look again at the configuration of our mail gateways (sendmail) - it should be possible to match the relevant addresses before every other rule, and send it to an empty IP address (without anything answering on that address) so the mail would just sit in the queue. Then redirect it to a real mail gateway later, after completition of the move. Heiko -- -- PREVINET S.p.A.[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Via Ferretto, 1ph x39-041-5907073 -- I-31021 Mogliano V.to (TV) fax x39-041-5907087 -- ITALY -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 2:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ? My average mailbox move takes around 5 minutes. Actual risk of mail being NDR'd is a number significantly close to zero (e.g. I moved 1100 users from one server to another one evening and received 0 complaints about bounced or missing mail). Mail which is sent during that time is bounced, not lost, so the sender can simply try and resend the message... not like the occasional odd NDR doesn't happen anyway. What's the actual problem we're trying to solve here or is this just an academic exercise? -Original Message- From: Herold Heiko To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 1/29/2002 6:01 AM Subject: RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ? OK users should not be connected during move mailbox - no problem. But mail can't be delivered ? Let's see, this means a) every connector on every exchange server must be down, no user anywhere must be connected, or b) every connector on the source and destination server must be down, they must not be able to communicate with any other exchange server in the same org/site, but they still must be able to communicate with a domain controller. Oh, no user logged in those two servers obviously. Seems not exactly an easy task if you don't want to risk loosing mail during a move mailbox... is there any way to do this ? Every network has moments when there are few users and external mail is trickling in slowly, but still not 100% sure. For the drive space issue... I was still thinking, what if on a partition is say, pub.edb only ? BTW I'm just copying the exchange resource kit and service pack on that partition :) Heiko _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ?
Chris is a chef as well? A man of many talents. :) Regards Mr Louis Joyce Network Support Analyst Exchange Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 January 2002 13:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ? Me thinks you are overthinking this. I agree with Iron Chef Messaging Scharff, I've done a number of times overnight and across WAN links w/o issue. -Original Message- From: Herold Heiko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:51 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ? Well, I did mov some mailboxes during prime time the other day (for space reason): phone user with top #1 mailbox please close outlook until notice, move mailbox, give clearance for outlook. After moving around ~ 10 users (~7GB, sigh) I got notice from a couple of those for bounced and resent mail. So I was wondering if there is a better solution. As it sems the low-traffic time with crossed fingers way seems to be the only better one, possibly combined with the delay external mail prior to entering the exchange system. As a matter of fact I need to take a look again at the configuration of our mail gateways (sendmail) - it should be possible to match the relevant addresses before every other rule, and send it to an empty IP address (without anything answering on that address) so the mail would just sit in the queue. Then redirect it to a real mail gateway later, after completition of the move. Heiko -- -- PREVINET S.p.A.[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Via Ferretto, 1ph x39-041-5907073 -- I-31021 Mogliano V.to (TV) fax x39-041-5907087 -- ITALY -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 2:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ? My average mailbox move takes around 5 minutes. Actual risk of mail being NDR'd is a number significantly close to zero (e.g. I moved 1100 users from one server to another one evening and received 0 complaints about bounced or missing mail). Mail which is sent during that time is bounced, not lost, so the sender can simply try and resend the message... not like the occasional odd NDR doesn't happen anyway. What's the actual problem we're trying to solve here or is this just an academic exercise? -Original Message- From: Herold Heiko To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 1/29/2002 6:01 AM Subject: RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ? OK users should not be connected during move mailbox - no problem. But mail can't be delivered ? Let's see, this means a) every connector on every exchange server must be down, no user anywhere must be connected, or b) every connector on the source and destination server must be down, they must not be able to communicate with any other exchange server in the same org/site, but they still must be able to communicate with a domain controller. Oh, no user logged in those two servers obviously. Seems not exactly an easy task if you don't want to risk loosing mail during a move mailbox... is there any way to do this ? Every network has moments when there are few users and external mail is trickling in slowly, but still not 100% sure. For the drive space issue... I was still thinking, what if on a partition is say, pub.edb only ? BTW I'm just copying the exchange resource kit and service pack on that partition :) Heiko _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives
RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ?
I'm a master of trailer park cuisine. Chris Scharff The Mail Resource Center http://www.mail-resources.com -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 1/29/2002 8:35 AM Subject: RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ? Chris is a chef as well? A man of many talents. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ?
I am looking to buy a Trailer park soon, want to be the chief at a Cook out? We can laugh at all the inmates I mean my tenants??? --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond Did I just say that out loud? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 6:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ? I'm a master of trailer park cuisine. Chris Scharff The Mail Resource Center http://www.mail-resources.com -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 1/29/2002 8:35 AM Subject: RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ? Chris is a chef as well? A man of many talents. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ?
Users shouldn't be connected to the server while their mailboxes are being moved, nor can mailboxes accept mail while they are being moved (assuming your using the mailbox tool). 1 GB question - done this myself and works great ... freeing up a few hundred MB does get the store back up quickly, although I've never see this on a best practices list. Quicker than moving the logs to another drive. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Herold Heiko Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 6:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move mailbox = can't reveive ? EX4.4 sp4 say, server Gateway (IMC connector only), server A and server B (mailboxes). During move mailbox from A to B arrived a incoming mail (smtp to Gateway) for the mailbox on the move. server A sent back a reply Your message ... did not reach the following recipient(s): Display name on Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:33:39 +0100 Unable to deliver the message due to a communications failure The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=us;a= ;p=... ;l=Gateway020201281117D5DWCYXN MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:site:server A Is this normal ? During move mailbox incoming external mail is rejected ? I could not find any reference to this in technet (well, searched only for a couple of minutes to be honest, found nothing related). Similary, I was looking exactly when a services will shut down for no more space available (now you know why I'm moving mailboxes :), the only thing I found was several references (EX 5.5 Server Guide, Administering and Maintaining, the Disaster Recovery White paper and similar) to res1.log and res2.log. Those are 5MB each and are used as last resort when the disk is full - does this mean services shut down really at the last moment (new page can't be allocated) ? Somehow I always thought it would shutdown with some % of disk space still available. If the services do shutdown when the store partition is really full could it be considered a good practice creating a 1GB (or something) file, which can be deleted in order to create space as last resort... say, to restart services and move somewhere else some mailboxes or public folders ? Then decide if to spank the users who eat space like peanuts or the managers who want won't allow space limits, in order to use the infinite resources approach for supposedly faster development but won't fund the same infinite (or at least sufficent) approach to server space ? Heiko -- -- PREVINET S.p.A.[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Via Ferretto, 1ph x39-041-5907073 -- I-31021 Mogliano V.to (TV) fax x39-041-5907087 -- ITALY _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ?
The official recommendation ... http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q259751. According to this, you may only need as little as 10MB to free up the service. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jim Brady Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move mailbox = can't reveive ? Users shouldn't be connected to the server while their mailboxes are being moved, nor can mailboxes accept mail while they are being moved (assuming your using the mailbox tool). 1 GB question - done this myself and works great ... freeing up a few hundred MB does get the store back up quickly, although I've never see this on a best practices list. Quicker than moving the logs to another drive. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Herold Heiko Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 6:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move mailbox = can't reveive ? EX4.4 sp4 say, server Gateway (IMC connector only), server A and server B (mailboxes). During move mailbox from A to B arrived a incoming mail (smtp to Gateway) for the mailbox on the move. server A sent back a reply Your message ... did not reach the following recipient(s): Display name on Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:33:39 +0100 Unable to deliver the message due to a communications failure The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=us;a= ;p=... ;l=Gateway020201281117D5DWCYXN MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:site:server A Is this normal ? During move mailbox incoming external mail is rejected ? I could not find any reference to this in technet (well, searched only for a couple of minutes to be honest, found nothing related). Similary, I was looking exactly when a services will shut down for no more space available (now you know why I'm moving mailboxes :), the only thing I found was several references (EX 5.5 Server Guide, Administering and Maintaining, the Disaster Recovery White paper and similar) to res1.log and res2.log. Those are 5MB each and are used as last resort when the disk is full - does this mean services shut down really at the last moment (new page can't be allocated) ? Somehow I always thought it would shutdown with some % of disk space still available. If the services do shutdown when the store partition is really full could it be considered a good practice creating a 1GB (or something) file, which can be deleted in order to create space as last resort... say, to restart services and move somewhere else some mailboxes or public folders ? Then decide if to spank the users who eat space like peanuts or the managers who want won't allow space limits, in order to use the infinite resources approach for supposedly faster development but won't fund the same infinite (or at least sufficent) approach to server space ? Heiko -- -- PREVINET S.p.A.[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Via Ferretto, 1ph x39-041-5907073 -- I-31021 Mogliano V.to (TV) fax x39-041-5907087 -- ITALY _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move mailbox
That was it! I checked and exchange was only using 32meg of memory, ran the optimizer and after 10 seconds it jumped to 250meg. Is 32 the default?? Thanks A lot Rob -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 10:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move mailbox Run the performance optimizer. Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Plane, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 9:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Move mailbox I have moved about 90 mailboxes to a new exchange 5.5 server that I joined into our site. Now all users can't delete or move multiple mail items. One at a time works fine. Other that that everything seems to run fine. Any Idea's Rob _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate
A reasonably good estimate based on the inputs I got came to about 2GB/hour. Your mileage may vary widely. So figure 20 hours. Ed Crowley Compaq Computer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Meunier Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Search the archives of this list, Ed Crowley asked people to report this info to him. About a month ago, I'd say. I don't know how many people forwarded off-site, and it was never determined how a high or low SIS ratio affected the move rate, but he may have his results in compiled form. My answer to him was that I did a 16gb store overnight. -Original Message- From: Sander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 7:00 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Subject: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Hi All I know one should not generalise and each system is different. I acknowledge these two factors, but does anyone have any stats on the average transfer speed they obtained while doing a move mailbox. The servers in question are not in my site so I cannot quickly run a test. The servers are on a 100 MB switch.The total mail store is approx 40 GB. I would like to calculate an approx time needed to move mailboxes this way, exmerge is not an option as the original store has corruptions in it. I need to check after each mailbox if the new store is still consistent. Any info is appreciated. Regards Sander __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate
A nice weekend work then :) -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com -- - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 9:06 AM Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate A reasonably good estimate based on the inputs I got came to about 2GB/hour. Your mileage may vary widely. So figure 20 hours. Ed Crowley Compaq Computer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Meunier Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Search the archives of this list, Ed Crowley asked people to report this info to him. About a month ago, I'd say. I don't know how many people forwarded off-site, and it was never determined how a high or low SIS ratio affected the move rate, but he may have his results in compiled form. My answer to him was that I did a 16gb store overnight. -Original Message- From: Sander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 7:00 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Subject: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Hi All I know one should not generalise and each system is different. I acknowledge these two factors, but does anyone have any stats on the average transfer speed they obtained while doing a move mailbox. The servers in question are not in my site so I cannot quickly run a test. The servers are on a 100 MB switch.The total mail store is approx 40 GB. I would like to calculate an approx time needed to move mailboxes this way, exmerge is not an option as the original store has corruptions in it. I need to check after each mailbox if the new store is still consistent. Any info is appreciated. Regards Sander __ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate
Thank you all for your response, I'll try the move mailbox. Regards Sander -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 01:53 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate I agree with missy - Original Message - From: missy koslosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:43 PM Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Exmerge will kill his single instance storage, and his 40GB database will end up at almost 50GB if he's got only a 1.2:1 ratio. I'd try moving the mailboxes in chunks of 50-100 at a time, and ensure that it's done from the receiving server's Admin program for efficiency. I'd guess that this can be done in 2-3 working days, without overtime. Just let the users know that their mailboxes may be temporarily inaccessible and that their access should be resolved in 20-30 minutes (it should take less per mailbox, but you always look good when things take less time than you've said...). Missy - Original Message - From: Glenn Corbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Sander, Any reason you think that exmerge will bring along corrupted messages ? Since Exmerge is essentially copying the message from the mailbox store to the .PST file, a corrupted message will cause Exmerge to hiccup. We had major store corruption some time ago, approx 600 of the 1600 mailboxes wouldn't move via the Exchange Administration tool due to corruption. Exmerge allowed those mailboxes to be successfully moved. Simply looking at the exmerge log file, deleting the offending message(s) from the mailbox allowed the migration to occur in most cases. We have also used Exmerge doing only the first phase of the migration (extracting to .PST file), in order to determine which mailboxes were corrupt. Have done this a few days ahead of a migration to determine those mailboxes which will have to be manually moved. This allowed us to expedite those mailboxes with no detected corruption, and focus our efforts on those mailboxes that were having problems. Glenn - Original Message - From: Sander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:00 PM Subject: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Hi All I know one should not generalise and each system is different. I acknowledge these two factors, but does anyone have any stats on the average transfer speed they obtained while doing a move mailbox. The servers in question are not in my site so I cannot quickly run a test. The servers are on a 100 MB switch.The total mail store is approx 40 GB. I would like to calculate an approx time needed to move mailboxes this way, exmerge is not an option as the original store has corruptions in it. I need to check after each mailbox if the new store is still consistent. Any info is appreciated. Regards Sander _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate
Lift with your legs, not your back. Andy David J Muller International -Original Message- From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 08:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Thank you all for your response, I'll try the move mailbox. Regards Sander -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 01:53 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate I agree with missy - Original Message - From: missy koslosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:43 PM Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Exmerge will kill his single instance storage, and his 40GB database will end up at almost 50GB if he's got only a 1.2:1 ratio. I'd try moving the mailboxes in chunks of 50-100 at a time, and ensure that it's done from the receiving server's Admin program for efficiency. I'd guess that this can be done in 2-3 working days, without overtime. Just let the users know that their mailboxes may be temporarily inaccessible and that their access should be resolved in 20-30 minutes (it should take less per mailbox, but you always look good when things take less time than you've said...). Missy - Original Message - From: Glenn Corbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Sander, Any reason you think that exmerge will bring along corrupted messages ? Since Exmerge is essentially copying the message from the mailbox store to the .PST file, a corrupted message will cause Exmerge to hiccup. We had major store corruption some time ago, approx 600 of the 1600 mailboxes wouldn't move via the Exchange Administration tool due to corruption. Exmerge allowed those mailboxes to be successfully moved. Simply looking at the exmerge log file, deleting the offending message(s) from the mailbox allowed the migration to occur in most cases. We have also used Exmerge doing only the first phase of the migration (extracting to .PST file), in order to determine which mailboxes were corrupt. Have done this a few days ahead of a migration to determine those mailboxes which will have to be manually moved. This allowed us to expedite those mailboxes with no detected corruption, and focus our efforts on those mailboxes that were having problems. Glenn - Original Message - From: Sander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:00 PM Subject: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Hi All I know one should not generalise and each system is different. I acknowledge these two factors, but does anyone have any stats on the average transfer speed they obtained while doing a move mailbox. The servers in question are not in my site so I cannot quickly run a test. The servers are on a 100 MB switch.The total mail store is approx 40 GB. I would like to calculate an approx time needed to move mailboxes this way, exmerge is not an option as the original store has corruptions in it. I need to check after each mailbox if the new store is still consistent. Any info is appreciated. Regards Sander _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com
RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate
How much does 40GB weigh anyway Andy? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 02:30 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Lift with your legs, not your back. Andy David J Muller International -Original Message- From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 08:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Thank you all for your response, I'll try the move mailbox. Regards Sander -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 01:53 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate I agree with missy - Original Message - From: missy koslosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:43 PM Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Exmerge will kill his single instance storage, and his 40GB database will end up at almost 50GB if he's got only a 1.2:1 ratio. I'd try moving the mailboxes in chunks of 50-100 at a time, and ensure that it's done from the receiving server's Admin program for efficiency. I'd guess that this can be done in 2-3 working days, without overtime. Just let the users know that their mailboxes may be temporarily inaccessible and that their access should be resolved in 20-30 minutes (it should take less per mailbox, but you always look good when things take less time than you've said...). Missy - Original Message - From: Glenn Corbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Sander, Any reason you think that exmerge will bring along corrupted messages ? Since Exmerge is essentially copying the message from the mailbox store to the .PST file, a corrupted message will cause Exmerge to hiccup. We had major store corruption some time ago, approx 600 of the 1600 mailboxes wouldn't move via the Exchange Administration tool due to corruption. Exmerge allowed those mailboxes to be successfully moved. Simply looking at the exmerge log file, deleting the offending message(s) from the mailbox allowed the migration to occur in most cases. We have also used Exmerge doing only the first phase of the migration (extracting to .PST file), in order to determine which mailboxes were corrupt. Have done this a few days ahead of a migration to determine those mailboxes which will have to be manually moved. This allowed us to expedite those mailboxes with no detected corruption, and focus our efforts on those mailboxes that were having problems. Glenn - Original Message - From: Sander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:00 PM Subject: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Hi All I know one should not generalise and each system is different. I acknowledge these two factors, but does anyone have any stats on the average transfer speed they obtained while doing a move mailbox. The servers in question are not in my site so I cannot quickly run a test. The servers are on a 100 MB switch.The total mail store is approx 40 GB. I would like to calculate an approx time needed to move mailboxes this way, exmerge is not an option as the original store has corruptions in it. I need to check after each mailbox if the new store is still consistent. Any info is appreciated. Regards Sander _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate
Guess it depends on how big those ones and zeros are... -Original Message- From: Sander Van Butzelaar To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 9/26/01 7:26 AM Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate How much does 40GB weigh anyway Andy? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 02:30 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Lift with your legs, not your back. Andy David J Muller International -Original Message- From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 08:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Thank you all for your response, I'll try the move mailbox. Regards Sander -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 01:53 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate I agree with missy - Original Message - From: missy koslosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:43 PM Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Exmerge will kill his single instance storage, and his 40GB database will end up at almost 50GB if he's got only a 1.2:1 ratio. I'd try moving the mailboxes in chunks of 50-100 at a time, and ensure that it's done from the receiving server's Admin program for efficiency. I'd guess that this can be done in 2-3 working days, without overtime. Just let the users know that their mailboxes may be temporarily inaccessible and that their access should be resolved in 20-30 minutes (it should take less per mailbox, but you always look good when things take less time than you've said...). Missy - Original Message - From: Glenn Corbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Sander, Any reason you think that exmerge will bring along corrupted messages ? Since Exmerge is essentially copying the message from the mailbox store to the .PST file, a corrupted message will cause Exmerge to hiccup. We had major store corruption some time ago, approx 600 of the 1600 mailboxes wouldn't move via the Exchange Administration tool due to corruption. Exmerge allowed those mailboxes to be successfully moved. Simply looking at the exmerge log file, deleting the offending message(s) from the mailbox allowed the migration to occur in most cases. We have also used Exmerge doing only the first phase of the migration (extracting to .PST file), in order to determine which mailboxes were corrupt. Have done this a few days ahead of a migration to determine those mailboxes which will have to be manually moved. This allowed us to expedite those mailboxes with no detected corruption, and focus our efforts on those mailboxes that were having problems. Glenn - Original Message - From: Sander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:00 PM Subject: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Hi All I know one should not generalise and each system is different. I acknowledge these two factors, but does anyone have any stats on the average transfer speed they obtained while doing a move mailbox. The servers in question are not in my site so I cannot quickly run a test. The servers are on a 100 MB switch.The total mail store is approx 40 GB. I would like to calculate an approx time needed to move mailboxes this way, exmerge is not an option as the original store has corruptions in it. I need to check after each mailbox if the new store is still consistent. Any info is appreciated. Regards Sander _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate
Yes. Change the font to 8 or even 6 point before trying to lift. Also, use a nice clean san serif font. And under no condintions should you try to this lift if the font has been changed ot Gil Sans Ultra Bold. ...Joel PLEASE NOTE: Some Quantum Physics Theories Suggest That When the Reader Is Not Directly Observing This Email, It May Cease to Exist or Will Exist Only in a Vague and Undetermined State. -Original Message- From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Guess it depends on how big those ones and zeros are... -Original Message- From: Sander Van Butzelaar To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 9/26/01 7:26 AM Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate How much does 40GB weigh anyway Andy? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 02:30 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Lift with your legs, not your back. Andy David J Muller International -Original Message- From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 08:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Thank you all for your response, I'll try the move mailbox. Regards Sander -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 01:53 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate I agree with missy - Original Message - From: missy koslosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:43 PM Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Exmerge will kill his single instance storage, and his 40GB database will end up at almost 50GB if he's got only a 1.2:1 ratio. I'd try moving the mailboxes in chunks of 50-100 at a time, and ensure that it's done from the receiving server's Admin program for efficiency. I'd guess that this can be done in 2-3 working days, without overtime. Just let the users know that their mailboxes may be temporarily inaccessible and that their access should be resolved in 20-30 minutes (it should take less per mailbox, but you always look good when things take less time than you've said...). Missy - Original Message - From: Glenn Corbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Sander, Any reason you think that exmerge will bring along corrupted messages ? Since Exmerge is essentially copying the message from the mailbox store to the .PST file, a corrupted message will cause Exmerge to hiccup. We had major store corruption some time ago, approx 600 of the 1600 mailboxes wouldn't move via the Exchange Administration tool due to corruption. Exmerge allowed those mailboxes to be successfully moved. Simply looking at the exmerge log file, deleting the offending message(s) from the mailbox allowed the migration to occur in most cases. We have also used Exmerge doing only the first phase of the migration (extracting to .PST file), in order to determine which mailboxes were corrupt. Have done this a few days ahead of a migration to determine those mailboxes which will have to be manually moved. This allowed us to expedite those mailboxes with no detected corruption, and focus our efforts on those mailboxes that were having problems. Glenn - Original Message - From: Sander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:00 PM Subject: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Hi All I know one should not generalise and each system is different. I acknowledge these two factors, but does anyone have any stats on the average transfer speed they obtained while doing a move mailbox. The servers in question are not in my site so I cannot quickly run a test. The servers are on a 100 MB switch.The total mail store is approx 40 GB. I would like to calculate an approx time needed to move mailboxes this way, exmerge is not an option as the original store has corruptions in it. I need to check after each mailbox if the new store is still consistent. Any info is appreciated. Regards Sander _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate
And for God's Sake, be careful with italic fonts. The center of gravity is all screwy. Safety First Jim Helfer -Original Message- From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Yes. Change the font to 8 or even 6 point before trying to lift. Also, use a nice clean san serif font. And under no condintions should you try to this lift if the font has been changed ot Gil Sans Ultra Bold. ...Joel PLEASE NOTE: Some Quantum Physics Theories Suggest That When the Reader Is Not Directly Observing This Email, It May Cease to Exist or Will Exist Only in a Vague and Undetermined State. -Original Message- From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Guess it depends on how big those ones and zeros are... -Original Message- From: Sander Van Butzelaar To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 9/26/01 7:26 AM Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate How much does 40GB weigh anyway Andy? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 02:30 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Lift with your legs, not your back. Andy David J Muller International -Original Message- From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 08:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Thank you all for your response, I'll try the move mailbox. Regards Sander -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 01:53 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate I agree with missy - Original Message - From: missy koslosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:43 PM Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Exmerge will kill his single instance storage, and his 40GB database will end up at almost 50GB if he's got only a 1.2:1 ratio. I'd try moving the mailboxes in chunks of 50-100 at a time, and ensure that it's done from the receiving server's Admin program for efficiency. I'd guess that this can be done in 2-3 working days, without overtime. Just let the users know that their mailboxes may be temporarily inaccessible and that their access should be resolved in 20-30 minutes (it should take less per mailbox, but you always look good when things take less time than you've said...). Missy - Original Message - From: Glenn Corbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Sander, Any reason you think that exmerge will bring along corrupted messages ? Since Exmerge is essentially copying the message from the mailbox store to the .PST file, a corrupted message will cause Exmerge to hiccup. We had major store corruption some time ago, approx 600 of the 1600 mailboxes wouldn't move via the Exchange Administration tool due to corruption. Exmerge allowed those mailboxes to be successfully moved. Simply looking at the exmerge log file, deleting the offending message(s) from the mailbox allowed the migration to occur in most cases. We have also used Exmerge doing only the first phase of the migration (extracting to .PST file), in order to determine which mailboxes were corrupt. Have done this a few days ahead of a migration to determine those mailboxes which will have to be manually moved. This allowed us to expedite those mailboxes with no detected corruption, and focus our efforts on those mailboxes that were having problems. Glenn - Original Message - From: Sander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:00 PM Subject: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Hi All I know one should not generalise and each system is different. I acknowledge these two factors, but does anyone have any stats on the average transfer speed they obtained while doing a move mailbox. The servers in question are not in my site so I cannot quickly run a test. The servers are on a 100 MB switch.The total mail store is approx 40 GB. I would like to calculate an approx time needed to move mailboxes this way, exmerge is not an option as the original store has corruptions in it. I need to check after each mailbox if the new store is still consistent. Any info is appreciated. Regards Sander _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate
Personally, I recommend moving the ones and zeros in 4 pt wingdings.. the folders can be packed away quite nicely in a box and moved aroudn where ever you need them Stephen -Original Message- From: Osborn, Joel To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 9/26/01 9:29 AM Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Yes. Change the font to 8 or even 6 point before trying to lift. Also, use a nice clean san serif font. And under no condintions should you try to this lift if the font has been changed ot Gil Sans Ultra Bold. ...Joel PLEASE NOTE: Some Quantum Physics Theories Suggest That When the Reader Is Not Directly Observing This Email, It May Cease to Exist or Will Exist Only in a Vague and Undetermined State. -Original Message- From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Guess it depends on how big those ones and zeros are... -Original Message- From: Sander Van Butzelaar To: Exchange Discussions Sent: 9/26/01 7:26 AM Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate How much does 40GB weigh anyway Andy? -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 02:30 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Lift with your legs, not your back. Andy David J Muller International -Original Message- From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 08:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Thank you all for your response, I'll try the move mailbox. Regards Sander -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 September 2001 01:53 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate I agree with missy - Original Message - From: missy koslosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:43 PM Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Exmerge will kill his single instance storage, and his 40GB database will end up at almost 50GB if he's got only a 1.2:1 ratio. I'd try moving the mailboxes in chunks of 50-100 at a time, and ensure that it's done from the receiving server's Admin program for efficiency. I'd guess that this can be done in 2-3 working days, without overtime. Just let the users know that their mailboxes may be temporarily inaccessible and that their access should be resolved in 20-30 minutes (it should take less per mailbox, but you always look good when things take less time than you've said...). Missy - Original Message - From: Glenn Corbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Sander, Any reason you think that exmerge will bring along corrupted messages ? Since Exmerge is essentially copying the message from the mailbox store to the .PST file, a corrupted message will cause Exmerge to hiccup. We had major store corruption some time ago, approx 600 of the 1600 mailboxes wouldn't move via the Exchange Administration tool due to corruption. Exmerge allowed those mailboxes to be successfully moved. Simply looking at the exmerge log file, deleting the offending message(s) from the mailbox allowed the migration to occur in most cases. We have also used Exmerge doing only the first phase of the migration (extracting to .PST file), in order to determine which mailboxes were corrupt. Have done this a few days ahead of a migration to determine those mailboxes which will have to be manually moved. This allowed us to expedite those mailboxes with no detected corruption, and focus our efforts on those mailboxes that were having problems. Glenn - Original Message - From: Sander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:00 PM Subject: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Hi All I know one should not generalise and each system is different. I acknowledge these two factors, but does anyone have any stats on the average transfer speed they obtained while doing a move mailbox. The servers in question are not in my site so I cannot quickly run a test. The servers are on a 100 MB switch.The total mail store is approx 40 GB. I would like to calculate an approx time needed to move mailboxes this way, exmerge is not an option as the original store has corruptions in it. I need to check after each mailbox if the new store is still consistent. Any info is appreciated. Regards Sander _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate
Missy, I had wondered why the exmerged psts are much bigger than pub.edb. Thanks for the explanation. Warm Regards, - Khandu __ Khandu Veer, Chief Operating Officer Formulasys India Limited Sai Chambers, 15, Mumbai-Pune Road, Wakdewadi, Pune 411 003 Tel: +91-20-553 8611 (x302); Direct: 020-553 2525 Mobile: 098220-16327 Fax: +91-20-553 6480; e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.formulasys.com -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Exmerge will kill his single instance storage, and his 40GB database will end up at almost 50GB if he's got only a 1.2:1 ratio. I'd try moving the mailboxes in chunks of 50-100 at a time, and ensure that it's done from the receiving server's Admin program for efficiency. I'd guess that this can be done in 2-3 working days, without overtime. Just let the users know that their mailboxes may be temporarily inaccessible and that their access should be resolved in 20-30 minutes (it should take less per mailbox, but you always look good when things take less time than you've said...). Missy - Original Message - From: Glenn Corbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Sander, Any reason you think that exmerge will bring along corrupted messages ? Since Exmerge is essentially copying the message from the mailbox store to the .PST file, a corrupted message will cause Exmerge to hiccup. We had major store corruption some time ago, approx 600 of the 1600 mailboxes wouldn't move via the Exchange Administration tool due to corruption. Exmerge allowed those mailboxes to be successfully moved. Simply looking at the exmerge log file, deleting the offending message(s) from the mailbox allowed the migration to occur in most cases. We have also used Exmerge doing only the first phase of the migration (extracting to .PST file), in order to determine which mailboxes were corrupt. Have done this a few days ahead of a migration to determine those mailboxes which will have to be manually moved. This allowed us to expedite those mailboxes with no detected corruption, and focus our efforts on those mailboxes that were having problems. Glenn - Original Message - From: Sander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:00 PM Subject: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Hi All I know one should not generalise and each system is different. I acknowledge these two factors, but does anyone have any stats on the average transfer speed they obtained while doing a move mailbox. The servers in question are not in my site so I cannot quickly run a test. The servers are on a 100 MB switch.The total mail store is approx 40 GB. I would like to calculate an approx time needed to move mailboxes this way, exmerge is not an option as the original store has corruptions in it. I need to check after each mailbox if the new store is still consistent. Any info is appreciated. Regards Sander _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate
assuming you meant priv.edb and not pub.edb, the answer is SIS (Single Instance Storage). Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 -Original Message- From: Khandu Veer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Missy, I had wondered why the exmerged psts are much bigger than pub.edb. Thanks for the explanation. Warm Regards, - Khandu __ Khandu Veer, Chief Operating Officer Formulasys India Limited Sai Chambers, 15, Mumbai-Pune Road, Wakdewadi, Pune 411 003 Tel: +91-20-553 8611 (x302); Direct: 020-553 2525 Mobile: 098220-16327 Fax: +91-20-553 6480; e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.formulasys.com -Original Message- From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Exmerge will kill his single instance storage, and his 40GB database will end up at almost 50GB if he's got only a 1.2:1 ratio. I'd try moving the mailboxes in chunks of 50-100 at a time, and ensure that it's done from the receiving server's Admin program for efficiency. I'd guess that this can be done in 2-3 working days, without overtime. Just let the users know that their mailboxes may be temporarily inaccessible and that their access should be resolved in 20-30 minutes (it should take less per mailbox, but you always look good when things take less time than you've said...). Missy - Original Message - From: Glenn Corbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Sander, Any reason you think that exmerge will bring along corrupted messages ? Since Exmerge is essentially copying the message from the mailbox store to the .PST file, a corrupted message will cause Exmerge to hiccup. We had major store corruption some time ago, approx 600 of the 1600 mailboxes wouldn't move via the Exchange Administration tool due to corruption. Exmerge allowed those mailboxes to be successfully moved. Simply looking at the exmerge log file, deleting the offending message(s) from the mailbox allowed the migration to occur in most cases. We have also used Exmerge doing only the first phase of the migration (extracting to .PST file), in order to determine which mailboxes were corrupt. Have done this a few days ahead of a migration to determine those mailboxes which will have to be manually moved. This allowed us to expedite those mailboxes with no detected corruption, and focus our efforts on those mailboxes that were having problems. Glenn - Original Message - From: Sander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:00 PM Subject: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Hi All I know one should not generalise and each system is different. I acknowledge these two factors, but does anyone have any stats on the average transfer speed they obtained while doing a move mailbox. The servers in question are not in my site so I cannot quickly run a test. The servers are on a 100 MB switch.The total mail store is approx 40 GB. I would like to calculate an approx time needed to move mailboxes this way, exmerge is not an option as the original store has corruptions in it. I need to check after each mailbox if the new store is still consistent. Any info is appreciated. Regards Sander _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate
Search the archives of this list, Ed Crowley asked people to report this info to him. About a month ago, I'd say. I don't know how many people forwarded off-site, and it was never determined how a high or low SIS ratio affected the move rate, but he may have his results in compiled form. My answer to him was that I did a 16gb store overnight. -Original Message- From: Sander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 7:00 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Subject: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Hi All I know one should not generalise and each system is different. I acknowledge these two factors, but does anyone have any stats on the average transfer speed they obtained while doing a move mailbox. The servers in question are not in my site so I cannot quickly run a test. The servers are on a 100 MB switch.The total mail store is approx 40 GB. I would like to calculate an approx time needed to move mailboxes this way, exmerge is not an option as the original store has corruptions in it. I need to check after each mailbox if the new store is still consistent. Any info is appreciated. Regards Sander _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate
Thanks Tom That was doing one by one right? Not using exmerge. Regards Sander -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 September 2001 02:01 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Search the archives of this list, Ed Crowley asked people to report this info to him. About a month ago, I'd say. I don't know how many people forwarded off-site, and it was never determined how a high or low SIS ratio affected the move rate, but he may have his results in compiled form. My answer to him was that I did a 16gb store overnight. -Original Message- From: Sander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 7:00 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Subject: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Hi All I know one should not generalise and each system is different. I acknowledge these two factors, but does anyone have any stats on the average transfer speed they obtained while doing a move mailbox. The servers in question are not in my site so I cannot quickly run a test. The servers are on a 100 MB switch.The total mail store is approx 40 GB. I would like to calculate an approx time needed to move mailboxes this way, exmerge is not an option as the original store has corruptions in it. I need to check after each mailbox if the new store is still consistent. Any info is appreciated. Regards Sander _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate
Yeah, unfortunately the store is inconsistent so moving al in one go is not going to solve anything ...:-( We need to move the healthy boxes and leave the inconsistent ones behind Thanks for the reply Sander -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 September 2001 03:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate No, that was by selecting 850 mailboxes and moving them all. One by one? Heh. Someone's a glutton for punishment. -Original Message- From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 07:10 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Thanks Tom That was doing one by one right? Not using exmerge. Regards Sander -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 September 2001 02:01 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Search the archives of this list, Ed Crowley asked people to report this info to him. About a month ago, I'd say. I don't know how many people forwarded off-site, and it was never determined how a high or low SIS ratio affected the move rate, but he may have his results in compiled form. My answer to him was that I did a 16gb store overnight. -Original Message- From: Sander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 7:00 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Subject: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Hi All I know one should not generalise and each system is different. I acknowledge these two factors, but does anyone have any stats on the average transfer speed they obtained while doing a move mailbox. The servers in question are not in my site so I cannot quickly run a test. The servers are on a 100 MB switch.The total mail store is approx 40 GB. I would like to calculate an approx time needed to move mailboxes this way, exmerge is not an option as the original store has corruptions in it. I need to check after each mailbox if the new store is still consistent. Any info is appreciated. Regards Sander _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate
Try moving mailboxes in small groups of 20-30. Then check database consistency. I have seen the move cure corruption problems. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. A 20MB mailbox takes about 3-5 minutes, in my experience, over a similar LAN. Michael Herrick Groton CIT Messaging Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate No, that was by selecting 850 mailboxes and moving them all. One by one? Heh. Someone's a glutton for punishment. -Original Message- From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 07:10 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Thanks Tom That was doing one by one right? Not using exmerge. Regards Sander -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 September 2001 02:01 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Search the archives of this list, Ed Crowley asked people to report this info to him. About a month ago, I'd say. I don't know how many people forwarded off-site, and it was never determined how a high or low SIS ratio affected the move rate, but he may have his results in compiled form. My answer to him was that I did a 16gb store overnight. -Original Message- From: Sander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 7:00 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Subject: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Hi All I know one should not generalise and each system is different. I acknowledge these two factors, but does anyone have any stats on the average transfer speed they obtained while doing a move mailbox. The servers in question are not in my site so I cannot quickly run a test. The servers are on a 100 MB switch.The total mail store is approx 40 GB. I would like to calculate an approx time needed to move mailboxes this way, exmerge is not an option as the original store has corruptions in it. I need to check after each mailbox if the new store is still consistent. Any info is appreciated. Regards Sander _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate
Sander, Any reason you think that exmerge will bring along corrupted messages ? Since Exmerge is essentially copying the message from the mailbox store to the .PST file, a corrupted message will cause Exmerge to hiccup. We had major store corruption some time ago, approx 600 of the 1600 mailboxes wouldn't move via the Exchange Administration tool due to corruption. Exmerge allowed those mailboxes to be successfully moved. Simply looking at the exmerge log file, deleting the offending message(s) from the mailbox allowed the migration to occur in most cases. We have also used Exmerge doing only the first phase of the migration (extracting to .PST file), in order to determine which mailboxes were corrupt. Have done this a few days ahead of a migration to determine those mailboxes which will have to be manually moved. This allowed us to expedite those mailboxes with no detected corruption, and focus our efforts on those mailboxes that were having problems. Glenn - Original Message - From: Sander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:00 PM Subject: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Hi All I know one should not generalise and each system is different. I acknowledge these two factors, but does anyone have any stats on the average transfer speed they obtained while doing a move mailbox. The servers in question are not in my site so I cannot quickly run a test. The servers are on a 100 MB switch.The total mail store is approx 40 GB. I would like to calculate an approx time needed to move mailboxes this way, exmerge is not an option as the original store has corruptions in it. I need to check after each mailbox if the new store is still consistent. Any info is appreciated. Regards Sander _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate
Exmerge will kill his single instance storage, and his 40GB database will end up at almost 50GB if he's got only a 1.2:1 ratio. I'd try moving the mailboxes in chunks of 50-100 at a time, and ensure that it's done from the receiving server's Admin program for efficiency. I'd guess that this can be done in 2-3 working days, without overtime. Just let the users know that their mailboxes may be temporarily inaccessible and that their access should be resolved in 20-30 minutes (it should take less per mailbox, but you always look good when things take less time than you've said...). Missy - Original Message - From: Glenn Corbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Sander, Any reason you think that exmerge will bring along corrupted messages ? Since Exmerge is essentially copying the message from the mailbox store to the .PST file, a corrupted message will cause Exmerge to hiccup. We had major store corruption some time ago, approx 600 of the 1600 mailboxes wouldn't move via the Exchange Administration tool due to corruption. Exmerge allowed those mailboxes to be successfully moved. Simply looking at the exmerge log file, deleting the offending message(s) from the mailbox allowed the migration to occur in most cases. We have also used Exmerge doing only the first phase of the migration (extracting to .PST file), in order to determine which mailboxes were corrupt. Have done this a few days ahead of a migration to determine those mailboxes which will have to be manually moved. This allowed us to expedite those mailboxes with no detected corruption, and focus our efforts on those mailboxes that were having problems. Glenn - Original Message - From: Sander [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:00 PM Subject: Move Mailbox Transfer Rate Hi All I know one should not generalise and each system is different. I acknowledge these two factors, but does anyone have any stats on the average transfer speed they obtained while doing a move mailbox. The servers in question are not in my site so I cannot quickly run a test. The servers are on a 100 MB switch.The total mail store is approx 40 GB. I would like to calculate an approx time needed to move mailboxes this way, exmerge is not an option as the original store has corruptions in it. I need to check after each mailbox if the new store is still consistent. Any info is appreciated. Regards Sander _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
